MEMBER REVIEW: leiaorgana

[leiaorgana]

Monday, may 16th

As many of you know I got to see an early screening on monday for charity (my best birthday ever) and here's my humble opinion on what I've saw.
My rating: 9/10.

Amazing!!!! I'm not a critic but I can say I totally loved it, in fact I need to see it 3 or 4 more times.
It's kind of addictive and leaves you with a bittersweet taste in your mounth, it completes the circle perfectly though I got to say I'd like to see a bit more on what happens between ep III and Ep IV (it's not really needed just something I would like) I know I want more.

The effects are cool and better than in TPM and AOTC, and the beginning of the movie with this big space battle leaves you drooling all over.

As you guys read Jar Jar is barely involved in this movie, we'll see a bit more of Bail Organa and sadly for all of you guys just a tiny appearance of Aayla Secura, I do think Natalie Portman could use a few more acting lessons, but i got to recognize that she has improved and get's better when the movie moves foward and not something to worry since this love scenes are pretty short.

Its sad cause the story it's brokenhearted, and at the end of the movie it's just not enough. Against paper critics said (IMHO) here we get to see how a missoportunity and a few bad choices from the Jedi Council might lead to really bad things, but I don't think the Jedi Council is arrogant nor selfish i just think they were trying to lead Anakin through pacience and that plus Chancellor's influence over anakin we know what leads to. And let me say that Emperor steals the movie, Ian's performance is going to leave you breathless.

I've found General Grievous like an interesting character that i'd like to see a bit more but otherwise we'd be seen a 3 hours movie.
This movie is precise on what details that lead the story into ep IV, V and VI. It's what i wanted to see, now I feel a whole in my heart but that's because I know it's probably the end of a Great Saga.
Prepare for the ride guys, it's totally worth it!
Amazing effects, great lightsaber fights and loads of action.

My advice: Try not to concentrate too much on the short-love scenes but on what they feel towards each other, and don't worry by the end it get's better!

I'll try to watch ep IV today and think and analize a few more stuff... I really think you'll enjoy it!
Now I got to see it again!!!! I need it!!!
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[Javen]

Thanks LeiaO. I'm looking forward to it. Midnight can't seem to get here fast enough.

[pudooku]

The action in the lightsaber fights - for me - was almost too fast, you often couldn't follow it, and the editing was almost trying to disguise how brutal it all was by concentrating on abstract close ups.

I absolutely agree with you about the love scene dialogue.

As for the ending, I thought the scene on Pollis Massa where they pretty much absolve Vader of the physical act of killing her; "physically, there's nothing wrong with her but she's lost the will to live" (I paraphrase) was a massive cop out.

Pudooku

[Master_Mams]

Originally posted by pudooku@May 18 2005, 07:57 PM
The action in the lightsaber fights - for me - was almost too fast, you often couldn't follow it, and the editing was almost trying to disguise how brutal it all was by concentrating on abstract close ups.

Pudooku
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I agree with you on that one. Those duels are quite fast paced, I didnt really understood how sidious killed Fisto, he is so fast to move it's hard to catch.

[Master Magnus]

Thanks, LeiaO! I had been looking forward to your review.

[JSunday]

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The action in the lightsaber fights - for me - was almost too fast, you often couldn't follow it, and the editing was almost trying to disguise how brutal it all was by concentrating on abstract close ups.

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I agree with you on that one. Those duels are quite fast paced, I didnt really understood how sidious killed Fisto, he is so fast to move it's hard to catch.
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I suppose that can be an effective technique, though. We don't need to see limbs fly off every time.

[leiaorgana]

^ true and that's one more reason for wanting to see it 3 or 4 more times at the movies, cause those scenes were way fast for me and I was sitted in 3rd row, so It was to near and to quick for my poor eyes style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
I'm definitely trying to go again this weekend...

The Love Dialogues suck! Most of them do, I think Hayden did improve but I've seen Natalia Portman In different movies and I did like it, however she doesn't seem to be capting the very "scent" or "heart" of Star wars... belive me, i've studied theatre for 7 years and she was not even closed to be "belivable". (IMHO)

Also I do think that Padme's dead was lame, it could have been way better, I know he broke her heart "Anakin you're breaking my heart"... but "physically, there's nothing wrong with her but she's lost the will to live" ????
Even After labor that's not good, something else should have happened for her to die.
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[leiaorgana]

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[T-bone]

I thought it was great.

[kathru]

Congratz, LeiaO, your review is one of the bests...

About the Padmé death, I think it could be better but I still liking it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

That part of the birth of twins, when she said: "Oh, Luke" it's just perfect for me...

[Razorback]

The second time is even better.

The pacing is so fast that the first viewing is a blur. Get to a theatre again for a second, quickly. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I also found that all the main actors did a great job. I am glad that I don't see these movies with the eyes of some critics who say the acting is stiff (or some who say it is worse than ever). I thought this movie had acting far and above the acting in even Empire. I thought there was only one scene that could have been edited out because it kind of seems out of place for the rest of the movie.

Oh and you really need to see this movie digitally.

[T-bone]

i cant wait for the Member Review: Razorback thread!

[pudooku]

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I thought it made Padme seem selfish... Like she'd lost the will to live despite bringing two children into the world that need her. Padme never struck me as a character that would give up on her children. She would want to live to protect them. It would've been a lot more bittersweet for Anakin to have been physically responsible for her death.

Pudooku

[chreff]

One way or another he is, depending on your point of view.

[BlueDaintree]

It's funny- the novel seems to emphasise Anakin/Vader's choke having more to do with the death.

Guess Lucas did want to only suggest that- not having it fully being the only reason. Padme was choked, she had just given birth under difficult circumstances, she was in love and broken-hearted...all these things contributed- it's not like she only just suddenly colllapsed from a broken heart.

And the fact that she recovered physically didn't only suggest just a broken heart- but that Anakin- the guy she loved- even choked her in the first place and did it using the dark side- that has got to account for something affecting her.

[Starhorse]

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Sorry can't agree. I can totally understand why people may have disliked natalie or hayden's performances in AOTC, but this film I honestly couldn't find one thing that was wrong with the dialogue or the acting. It was so much improved, just night and day in difference.

I know people are gonna complain about the dialogue in the loves scenes, and say the acting is wooden, but this time around I absolutely cannot see why.

[T-bone]

I agree with Starhorse there.

[BlueDaintree]

Yeah, when people complained about the acting AOTC I couldn't really muster up the energy to defend that because I could see why but I didn't get that feeling this time.

[Avid PT Fan]

Yeah, I agree with Starhorses's disagreement (uh yeah that's a little convoluted) anyway, I never had a problem with Natalie and Hayden's acting and I've always enjoyed their "love dovey" scenes and I thought they were just as great in this movie...more mature and desperate appropriately for this movie. Definitely believable to me.

[Avid PT Fan]

BUT...there's always a but..I agree with most everything else in your review. Accept, Padme dying of heartbreak which make's perfect sense to me and was VERY tragic. I cried in this movie and when I learned how she died it was another moment that made me shed a few tears.

[leiaorgana]

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I thought it made Padme seem selfish... Like she'd lost the will to live despite bringing two children into the world that need her. Padme never struck me as a character that would give up on her children. She would want to live to protect them. It would've been a lot more bittersweet for Anakin to have been physically responsible for her death.

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That's exactly what I was thinking about, though I can understand her pain and frustration... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

As per the acting: I'm just sayinf that it could have been better but I can see a big difference between Ep I and II, I have to admit that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ok.gif and let's not forget that this is only a first impression, I'll try to see it again this weekend! and I'll let you know if I still fell the same about it.-

[Shadow_Almond]

i found this movie very, VERY enjoyable. the love scenes, though few they may be, are tedious. yes, i know the love scenes have to be in there.

[leiaorgana]

I do not know for sure if tedious is the right word to describe it, but it was not their very best, though it get's better by the end...(IMO) howdy:
And again it's better than TPM and AOTC...

[DarthDuck]

Quick question for you...we know by know there is NO Qui-Gon (*sigh*) but what about that scene itself in the Polis Masa Observation room...is anything left intact? Does Bail Organa still come get Yoda there or is the scene gone all together?

[leiaorgana]

Actually that scene remains and it's pretty good, also sad but good!!!

Bail does get yoda! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif and they both escape together.

[Zachaa]

Originally posted by pudooku@May 19 2005, 09:13 AM
I thought it made Padme seem selfish... Like she'd lost the will to live despite bringing two children into the world that need her. Padme never struck me as a character that would give up on her children. She would want to live to protect them. It would've been a lot more bittersweet for Anakin to have been physically responsible for her death.

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I thought that too. But then I thought about the style of the movie we are watching here- it is more like a myth-greek-tragedy sort of thing, and in those people die of broken hearts left and right. I think it makes Padme's character weaker, but it is in line with the overall style of the films.

And, as brookie said in another thread, if it was Anakin that killed her, would we EVER be able to forgive him? Padme died because of Anakin... but Anakin didn't physically kill her. I guess that makes sense.

[Theropod]

Originally posted by pudooku@May 18 2005, 11:57 AM
As for the ending, I thought the scene on Pollis Massa where they pretty much absolve Vader of the physical act of killing her; "physically, there's nothing wrong with her but she's lost the will to live" (I paraphrase) was a massive cop out.

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OK, real world analogy...
If I suddenly found out that my wife killed all her students (she's a teacher), then choked me unconsious and left me to die because she was too busy trying to beat my best friend with a frying pan, I would probably loose my will to live as well.
My love IS my life.

[leiaorgana]

^well yes, it's kind of complicated, but not only that she was giving birth to 2 babies that totally depended on her, and we know how much babies mean to us... (IMHO)
anyway it was good, maybe not it's best but it was not that bad, I can totally see your point of view.

[Theropod]

^Well, she does at least wait until the babies are born before she dies.

I am willing to assume she thought that more harm would come to the kids if she was alive. Surely, the Sith Lords would be able to use thier combined senses and political power to find her much easier than to find the baby. (Anakin only knew of one.)