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Mann
12-23-2002, 02:13 PM
I'm a movie fanatic, as some of you know. This is the time of the year when Movies get real good. who do you think will win?

My picks:

Best Picture: Chicago
Best Director: Rob Marshall- Chicago
Best Actor: Jack Nicholson- About Schmidt
Best Actress: Julianne Moore- Far From Heaven
Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper- Adaptation
Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates- About Schmidt

QuigonWindu
12-23-2002, 02:18 PM
Best pic: Star Wars ep: II AOTC
Best Director: Peter Jackson LOTR

Mann
12-23-2002, 02:33 PM
um, Star wars? Peter Jackson has the best posbile chance, but not Star Wars. I'm voting for TTT to win, but I think chicago will triumph.

Javen
12-23-2002, 03:33 PM
How in the world can Chicago be up for Best Picture?

It's not even out yet.

Mann
12-23-2002, 04:03 PM
Actually, it comes out this weekend, so it is in 2002. Miramax will campaign the hell out of it so it gets a best picture bet. The Golden Globes love it.

Padme
12-23-2002, 04:18 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=gold)'><span style="color:black">I think that Chicago will win also. I t looks like a pretty good movie.</span></font>

QuigonWindu
12-23-2002, 04:23 PM
You know what p*sses me off about the Oscars?
Every year the movie that wins best pic is a movie I've never even heard of, they never nominate the movies that regular people like me like. I don't even know what the hell "Chicago" is. When's the last time a comedy was nominated for anything. The Oscars p*ss me off so much.

Padme
12-23-2002, 04:35 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=gold)'><span style="color:blak">Chicago is a Broadway musical that they have made a film version of it has Richard Gere, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and that blonde girl from Jerry McGuire.</span></font>

Mann
12-23-2002, 08:29 PM
right Padme,

Chicago is a film version of the 1975 Bob Fosse Musical about a murder trial in Chicago. Though,i haven't seen it personally, I love the music. It stars Renee Zellweger, Richard Gere, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Queen Latifa. It has 8 golden globe nominations, and is the front runner for Best Picture.

What does everyone think of Gangs of New York?

Saranac
12-23-2002, 08:33 PM
I haven't seen it yet, but I will. I don't really appreciate musicals, so I'm not rooting for a best picture win for Chicago.

A.B.F.B.

Mann
12-23-2002, 08:34 PM
Don't appreciate musicals? How so?

Notice: DO NOT JUDGE MOULIN ROUGE TO ALL MUSICALS, IT IS PART MUSICAL, PART ZANIE COMEDY.

Saranac
12-23-2002, 09:09 PM
Musicals are pretty much the same thing as broadway shows. If I want to see singing I'll go to a show, If I want a music a movie theater. I don't think they should be included in the Oscars.

A.B.F.B.

Mann
12-23-2002, 10:34 PM
Some of the best movies ever made are musicals. We make musical movies so we can strech the constraints of a theater. They take the camera to on set locations and film there, as aposed to having a set that looks like it. I admire theatre equally, but i adore the look of movies.

Darth Vegas
12-23-2002, 10:38 PM
Yeah, Chicago doesn't stand a chance, there has never been a remake that won Best Picture, and there were much better films this year than Chicago will be, the academy is f@%k!ng retarded if they do not reconize at all, the motion picture of the most popular fictional book of all time: THE LORD OF THE RINGS.

My predictions:

Best Picture: The Two Towers, if not that either Minority Report or perhaps Insomnia or The Road to Perdition or Gangs of Ne York (hopefully TTT, the acedemy is nuts not to recognize LOTR)

Best Director: Peter Jackson, or Martin Scorcese for Gangs of New York

Best actor: Tom Hanks (Road to Perdition) or Tom Cruise (Minority Report) Maybe Mel Gibson for Signs

Best Actress:I have no idea

Best Supporting actor: I think Robin William for either One hour photo or Insomnia

Best Supporting Actress: Don't no

Best Score: The Two Towers, every film soundtrack worth purchasing I buy it, this is by far the best this year

Special Effects: The Two Towers
Star Wars and Minority Report will also be nominated in this category.

Make-Up: The Two Towers

Padme
12-23-2002, 11:07 PM
I think that The Gangs of New York is going to be a great movie! I really want to see it! I think that Chicago is going to be a great movie also. I love all musicals, they are great movies.

Mann
12-23-2002, 11:13 PM
Best Picture nominees will most likely be the Two Towers, Gangs of New York, and Chicago. Road to Perdition was good, but it came out to early. Minority Report is one of the year's best, but it is a sci-fi film, and the Academy will not nominate a Fantasy and Sci-Fi in the same year. If I could choose however:

Adaptation
Chicago
Lord of the Rings- The Two Towers
Minority Report
Road to Perdition

The Best Director should go to Peter Jackson. MArtin Scorsese is gonna win for his lack of winning over the last 25 years. My Picks:

Peter Jackson- Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers
Spike Jonze- Adaptation
Rob Marshall- Chicago (Impressive first film)
Steven Speilberg- Minority Report
Denzel Washington- Antwone Fisher Story

Best actor is harder. I like Tom Hanks, but he was to depressing in Road to Perdition. Tom Cruise was upstaged by the F/X in Minority. Williams was a lead IMO for One hour Photo. Nicholson's gonna win. My Picks:

Nicholas Cage- Adaptation
Greg Kinnear- Auto Focus (bizarre Film, great performance)
Samuel L. Jackson- Changing Lanes
Jack Nicholson- About Schimdt
Robin Williams- One Hour Photo

Best Actress is gonna be Julianne Moore. the end of the year is about actresses. My picks:

Salma Hayek- Frida
Nicole Kidman- The Hours
Julianne Moore- Far From Heaven
Renee Zellweger- Chicago
Catherine Zeta-Jones- Chicago

Best Supporting Actor:

Chris Cooper- Adaptation
Paul Newman- The Road to Perdition
Dennis Quaid- Far From Heaven
Jason Patric- Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
The guy who played the King of Rohan in the Two Towers

Best Supporting Actress:

Kathy Bates- about Schmidt
Cameron Diaz- Gangs of New York
Queen Latifa- Chicago
Samantha Morton- Minority Report
Meryl Streep- Adaptation

Best Visual F/x
Lord of the Rings
Minority Report
Star Wars Episode II

Mann
12-24-2002, 02:46 PM
bump

Lord Laviathan
12-24-2002, 03:08 PM
Best Picture- LOTR:TTT
Director- Martin Scorcese
Actor- Tom Hanks
Actress- ??
Suppotring Actor- I forget his name bad guy from Gangs of NY
F/X- Star Wars II

The Oscars usually suck I look forward to the real awards the MTV movie awards is best, thats where the films that really matter win.

Mann
12-24-2002, 03:32 PM
Daniel Day Lewis, from Gangs of New York, is being pushed for Leading not supporting.

RollaFett
12-27-2002, 10:48 PM
Wow, I forget how many films you see, Mann. Well, I haven't seen anything in the theater since "Signs", so I really haven't seen many Oscar-caliber films at all, considering they usually come out late in the year. That said, "Road to Perdition" should win absolutely nothing. Although a fine film, it may hae been one of the most overrated films I have ever seen. "Monority Report"? Please, also overrated. "Attack of the Clones"?! Blind loyalty, plain and simple. It should, however, receive nods for soundtrack and visual effects.
Well, you have some of my predictions for who shouldn't win major awards. Once I see some new films, I'll give a more informed opinion. See ya' later!

Mann
12-28-2002, 10:49 PM
I agree about the soundtrack, but If you listen, it;s alot like TPM's, which should have been NOMINATED at least, but because of the Critic backlash, it failed. F/x's? Definatley!

RollaFett
12-28-2002, 11:34 PM
I think that AOTC's soundtrack was slightly better than TPM, but I always thought that TPM should've gotten an Oscar nod, as well.

Mann
12-28-2002, 11:48 PM
TPM should have won the Oscar. the entire thing was brand new and was amazing. however, this year I like the new stuff, but alot of the old stuff is their too.

RollaFett
12-29-2002, 12:03 AM
Yeah, you're probably right.

Mann
12-29-2002, 12:06 AM
Movies to watch:

About Schmidt
Chicago
The Hours

Saranac
12-29-2002, 03:27 PM
Have I mentioned I hate the Academy Awards?

It's all politics anyway.

Mann
12-29-2002, 08:46 PM
yeah, but it's fun to bitch and moan about who should have won and be happy about who did win.

Darth Darthy
12-29-2002, 09:00 PM
Award ceremonies are very rubbish. Just a bunch of "stars" getting drunk for free and weeping openly in front of the world. I should slap all of them for being so self congratulary. I'm still waiting for an actor to walk on stage, pick his award up and simply say "Thanks and kiss my ass."

Javen
12-29-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Mann@Dec 23 2002, 02:13 PM
I'm a movie fanatic, as some of you know. This is the time of the year when Movies get real good. who do you think will win?

My picks:

Best Picture: Chicago
Best Director: Rob Marshall- Chicago
Best Actor: Jack Nicholson- About Schmidt
Best Actress: Julianne Moore- Far From Heaven
Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper- Adaptation
Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates- About Schmidt
Your probably right about all these picks, the Academy Awards is basically rigged and the critics are probably made up of Roger Ebert clones.

Mann
12-29-2002, 09:05 PM
Well, If it were up to Roger Ebert, He'd pick Minority Report as the best pick, which is one of my top picks.

Javen
12-29-2002, 09:09 PM
I agree Minority Report should win something but it won't. Roger Ebert had really surprised me by likeing it to. He usually likes what I hate and vice versa, and he actually liked Two Towers which I shocked that he did.

Mann
12-29-2002, 10:09 PM
Though he characterized TTT as an Action film, which it is much more than that. I don't like how he downsizes the film by criticizing that the hobbits are not the main characters. The reason is that they aren't, not entirely. They make up alot of the major characters, but the story is divided in two: Frodo and Sam's quest, and the all out war for Middle Earth.

Saranac
12-30-2002, 07:12 PM
Minority Report was crap. I can't believe I sat through that 2-half hours of crap. Cmon don't you think that seeing the future stuff got a little annoying. Don't get caught up in the special effects and the hype of the movie. I tend to ignore all movie reviews and make my own opinion. Although it did have good effects.

Darth Darthy
12-30-2002, 07:38 PM
I've yet to see the movie but - did he end up killing the soothsayer/thing anyway?

Saranac
12-30-2002, 07:52 PM
Nope he never did, he just kidnapped it. Then they went on the run, then exposed that the system didn't work. The Soothsayer is from Caesar, the guy who predicted the "Ides of March" we all know that story, or should.

Brian
12-31-2002, 01:29 AM
I'd like Colin Ferril (sp?) to get a supporting actor nod for Minority Report.

What happened to Road To Perdition being a Oscar candidate?

Mann
12-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Road to Perditions Oscar chances died because of Politics and people saying the movie was overrated. I liked the movie, but because it got only one Golden Globe nomination, I think the only shot it has at the Oscars in Cinematography and supporting actor.

Collin Farrell was the best performance in Minority Report. He's on my list. But because he's a dick (so says Hollywood Insiders) he wont get a nod unless he get pushed alot. I heard that Dreamworks is Pushing the guy who played the older guy in charge of Precrime, Mx Von Sydow for Supporting. I would also like to see samantha Morton nominated for that movie. She gave me the creeps.

Brian
12-31-2002, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Mann@Dec 31 2002, 01:47 PM
Collin Farrell was the best performance in Minority Report. He's on my list. But because he's a dick (so says Hollywood Insiders) he wont get a nod unless he get pushed alot. I heard that Dreamworks is Pushing the guy who played the older guy in charge of Precrime, Mx Von Sydow for Supporting. I would also like to see samantha Morton nominated for that movie. She gave me the creeps.
I agree that the Precog female, Agatha (Samantha Morton), should get a nomination for best supporting actress, but not Precrime leader, Lamar Burgess (Max Van Whatever).

I figure, why not give Colin Farrell a nomination. The Academy nominated Ethan Hawke for Training Day and I didn't think his performance was all that fantastic to deserve a nod. Also, I though Gandalf's (Ian McKellen sp?) performance was good also, but but did the Academy really think that his performance was the best in FOTR (being that it was the only acting nomination for the film)? Oh well, I guess the Academy thinks differently then I do.

That's just my $0.01.


~OBG

Mann
12-31-2002, 02:34 PM
who do you think should have gotten a nod for FotR?

heres a fact: originally, The academy placed Ian Mckellan in the Lead Actor catagory because he had a huge part in FotR, and they placed Elijah Wood in Supporting.

this year the best performance in TTT was Andy Serkis as Gollum. He recently got a nomination from the Online Society of Film Critics for Supporting actor.

RollaFett
12-31-2002, 10:20 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Road to Perditions Oscar chances died because of Politics and people saying the movie was overrated.[/b][/quote]
I don't know about politics, but it was overrated!

Brian
01-01-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Mann@Dec 31 2002, 02:34 PM
who do you think should have gotten a nod for FotR?
I don't know. I thought everyone did a good job, but I don't see how McKellan's performance stood above everyone else's which is what was implied by his nomination from the Academy.

I think the Academy just wanted to at least give FOTR one acting nod so they chose someone who would fit the role of a nominee the best (an older, more experienced actor who hasn't been recognized before).

That's the only reason I can figure for him getting an Oscar nod. This is not downing his performance, but I don't think it was any better than any of the other actors, from a certain point of view.

Mann
01-01-2003, 02:44 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think the Academy just wanted to at least give FOTR one acting nod so they chose someone who would fit the role of a nominee the best (an older, more experienced actor who hasn't been recognized before).

That's the only reason I can figure for him getting an Oscar nod. This is not downing his performance, but I don't think it was any better than any of the other actors, from a certain point of view.

[/b][/quote]

acutally McKellan was given the nomination because he had been recognized before. He was nominated three years earlier for Gods and Monsters (HE WAS ROBBED!) McKellan was also getting alot of positive reviews for his performance. Critics said it was a demonstration of what great actor can accomplish. He mirrored Alec Guiness' performance in the first Star Wars.

A note, New Line was also campaigning two others for supporting, but not as much: Ian Holm (Who was absolutley superb) and Sean Bean (Boromir, critics said he was the most human of the performances).

Rob
01-02-2003, 03:41 AM
Best Picture: Two Towers
Best Director: Peter Jackson - Two Towers
Best Actor: Not Hayden Christensen
Best Actress: Not Natalie Portman
Best Supporting Actor: Gollum
Best Supporting Actress: Er..dunno.

Now if they were to do the following:

Worst Picture from a franchise: Star Wars Episode II
Director who should have given someone else the film: George Lucas
Writer who should not have enlisted help, but given the story away to someone else all together - George Lucas
Worst computer animated character - C-3PO ties with the Reek and the Shaak

Brian
01-02-2003, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Jan 1 2003, 02:44 PM
acutally McKellan was given the nomination because he had been recognized before. He was nominated three years earlier for Gods and Monsters (HE WAS ROBBED!) McKellan was also getting alot of positive reviews for his performance. Critics said it was a demonstration of what great actor can accomplish. He mirrored Alec Guiness' performance in the first Star Wars.
I stand corrected....but I still think that the only reason they nominated McKellan is b/c they wanted someone who would fit the role of a nominee the best (see my post above).

Darth Vegas
01-02-2003, 04:59 AM
O-B Gates, I agree with you. Every actor involved in The Lord of the Rings has done a phenomenal job. The ones that really stand out IMO: Ian Holm (Bilbo), Ian Mckellan (Gandalf), Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn), Sean Bean (Baromir), Bernard Hill (King Theoden).

But most of all: Andy Serkis as Smeagol/Gollum.

I wondered when I heard they were making the trilogy just how good Gollum would be, how much to the book, how realistic, and his performance was far beyond my expectations, he should win the Oscar for supporting actor.

As I said before, were talking about the motion picture trilogy of the most popular fiction book of all time, nothing has ever compared with it's grand epic scope and it's popularity. The Academy is completely retarded if they do not honor at least one of the films with top Oscars.

Darth Vegas
01-02-2003, 05:04 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Critics said it was a demonstration of what great actor can accomplish. He mirrored Alec Guiness' performance in the first Star Wars.[/b][/quote]

That's not true at all if 'm taking your meaning correctly, Ian Mckellan's performance of Gandalf was an impersonation of J.R.R. Tolkien himself, Ian and Peter Jackson talk about it on the Extended DVD.

Mann
01-02-2003, 12:33 PM
No, I mean that his nomination was mirrored. Alec Guiness was an older actor about the same age as Ian was when he was nominated for LotR. They had public opinion behind them when they were nominated, and were seen to win. (Notice how like LotR, Star wars lost all major awards, and like LotR, Star wars was seen as either going to win Best Picture or get a consolation of Supporting actor, and won neither.)

Now, I agree the cast of LotR is superb.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The ones that really stand out IMO: Ian Holm (Bilbo), Ian Mckellan (Gandalf), Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn), Sean Bean (Baromir), Bernard Hill (King Theoden).

But most of all: Andy Serkis as Smeagol/Gollum.

[/b][/quote]

I agree whole heartedly. Andy Serkis is in the lead for a nomination from New Line. They just need to keep pushing him like they did McKellan.

Another actor who will get attention next year is Sean Astin, who plays Samwise. The next movie is his movie, according to the books. Infact, i don't even think Frodo does all that much because he's gone for a long portion. Sean Astin's monolouge in the final few minutes of TTT is heartbreaking, but beautiful. Not to mention the guy had to gain 30 pounds to play the role.

Mann
01-02-2003, 11:07 PM
Saw Catch Me if you can, Leo's chances are pretty good, even though I didn't think he was great, but decent. I loved Tom Hanks though.

Mann
01-04-2003, 08:26 PM
bump

Brian
01-13-2003, 04:16 PM
Hey, Mann...has a woman ever won for best director?

Also, here is an article from MSN (AP) (http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=110175) about the Oscar race. See who the critics think might be nominated.

~OBG

Mann
01-13-2003, 07:02 PM
No woman has ever won for best director, but two have been nominated, most recently was Jane champion for The Piano.

kopernikuz
01-13-2003, 09:34 PM
Okay, first off... Rob... that avatar has me rolling!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

These aren't necessarily what I would pick, but are what I think will get nominated and win:

Best Picture: Chicago
I just think this film has got the momentum and the following to pull it off. It's the kind of thing the voters would have liked Moulin Rouge to be. It's not as loud and brassy... it's classic like vintage Hollywood. It really screams the heyday and it will win.

Best Director: Martin Scorcese
Since the director of the best picture doesn't seem to get the oscar for his own work on the picture I think it'll swing by in this case as well. Best Picture encompasses the actors, the cinematography, the score, the director, the production as a whole. The director nod goes to the most masterful direction of a film. In this case, though I think the Academy has snubbed him so many times after being nominated that this will be his year.

Best Actor: Jack Nicholson
Too much praise about his role in this one. I haven't seen it, but from the talk he outdoes himself from As Good as it Gets and he won for that. I just think the buzz right now is in his favor and he'll add another statue to his mantle.

Best Actress: Nicole Kidman
She was dogged last year and this year they'll make it up to her. I haven't seen her performance, but the buzz and the "schnozz" tell me she's gonna win it by a nose.

Best Supporting Actor: Dennis Quaid
Why? Because he's back! They'll snub him for anything regarding the Rookie though his performance was superb, but it was a G rated family film. It got the critical acclaim it deserved, but it won't get a nomination. Instead, he'll get a supporting actor nod for Far from Heaven. He'll get this one award for both outstanding performances.

Best Supporting Actress: Julianne Moore
Why? I don't know... she just will. I'm not a big fan myself, but Hollywood has a thing for her. It just feels right here... however I can just as easily see them give Streep (The Hours) the award for snubbing her in the Actress category.

But hands down, I will say it again... Andy Serkis should get nominated at the very LEAST for best supporting actor. If he'd been wearing a costume or makeup (a'la Willem Dafoe in Shadow of a Vampire) he'd be a shoo-in for a nomination... the only thing holding back the Academy is that his costume was digital. WAKE UP ACADEMY! IT'S NO DIFFERENT!! It's still his performance and it outshined anyone else that will be nominated... There's my two cents...

Mann
01-13-2003, 11:05 PM
I agree with alot of what you say.

Chicago will win the Golden Globe without a doubt. Picture is likely nom but win I don't know. Scorcese could win, but his film wasn't as good as people had hoped, too much hype is not good. Nicholson is my choice to win. Kidman has a role that is shared with two others for lead. If Streep is nominated, that it will mean bad things for her chances. I'm for Julianne more for Far From HEaven, since she has the awards. Dennis Quaid is excellent in both roles yes. If Serkis isn't nominated I'd give him my support, then again Chris Cooper has the awards (Plus his performance is superb!) Supporting for Moore is a good bet, but I'd choose Kathy Bates or Streep for Adaptation.

Mann
01-18-2003, 12:49 PM
Golden Globes tommorow!

Who will win?

Drama Picture
Drama Actor
Drama Actress

Comedy Picture
Comedy Actor
Comedy Actress

Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress

Director
Screenplay

Brian
01-18-2003, 01:07 PM
I haven't seen most of the films that are nominated. I hope The Two Towers, 24, and Friends clean up!

~OBG

Mann
01-18-2003, 01:19 PM
sadly, two towers got only two nominations. Deserved, but only two. the score omission is appaling!

My predictions are:

Drama Picture- Gangs of New York
Drama Actor- daniel Day Lewis
Drama Actress- Julianne Moore

Comedy Picture- Chicago
Comedy Actor- Richard Gere
Comedy Actress- Renee Zellweger

Supporting Actor- Chris Cooper
Supporting Actress- Cameron Diaz

Director- Martin Scorcese
Screenplay- Charlie Kaufman

My choices:

Drama Picture- Lord of the Rings- The Two Towers
Drama Actor- Jack Nicholson
Drama Actress- Julianne Moore

Comedy Picture- Adaptation
Comedy Actor- Hugh Grant
Comedy Actress- Renee Zellweger

Supporting Actor- Chris Cooper or Dennis Quaid
Supporting Actress- Kathy Bates

Director- Peter Jackson
Screenplay- Charlie Kaufman!

Lord Laviathan
01-18-2003, 01:25 PM
As Ive said many times the only movie awards I look forward to because its funny and everything I care about wins is the MTV Movie Awards, all the others suck cause the can pick crap like Chicago, and put LOTR and others on the curb.

DOWN WITH THE ACADEMY AWARDS!!!!!

Mann
01-18-2003, 01:26 PM
you think Chicago is crap?

Lord Laviathan
01-18-2003, 01:32 PM
I hate most all musicals Mann, I hate when there are much better and spectacular films out there too. Plus its crap that they can release it in some theatres in L.A. and NY and consider it 2002 when no one else got to see it till after the new year that shows how much crap it is. Yet some how its going to wipe out everything else, but thats not my vote but of a academy.

Mann
01-18-2003, 01:36 PM
I agree with the MTV awards comment though. Last year they had the best choices.

Movie: LotR
new Director: Memento
Actor: Will Smith- Ali
Actress: Nicole Kidman
Breakthough actor: Orlando Bloom
Breakthough Actress: Mandy Moore (better than Britney)
Best Fight: Rush Hour 2
Best Action sequence: Pearl HArbor (the only good thing in the movie)
Best Musical Sequence: Moulin Rouge (DUH!)
Best Kiss: American Pie 2
Best On screenteam: The Fast and the Furious (vin Diesel is awesome!)

Javen
01-18-2003, 02:50 PM
Eminem will win something at the Academy awards just cause he is so freaking overrated.

Mann
01-18-2003, 04:55 PM
He's up for the song catagory anyway.

Brian
01-18-2003, 06:18 PM
Eminem won't win a thing at the Globes and won't even get nominated for an Oscar! "Lose Yourself" is a cool song, but really, do you think the Academy is going to vote for a RAP song for best song from a motion picture? I think not! He might clean up at the Grammys (again), but he doesn't deserve a movie award. Well, perhaps an MTV award might come his way.

Mann
01-18-2003, 06:25 PM
actually, Eminem gained respect for 8 mile, so he might get a nomination for Song. The song has earned every critic group nomination, and it's a great song.

kopernikuz
01-18-2003, 08:42 PM
Who knows, Eminem may be the next Randy Newman! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Isomorph
01-18-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Mann@Jan 18 2003, 03:25 PM
actually, Eminem gained respect for 8 mile, so he might get a nomination for Song. The song has earned every critic group nomination, and it's a great song.
I'm thinking it gonna be him.

Mann
01-19-2003, 12:37 AM
I'm thinking either Eminem or U2.

Mann
01-19-2003, 04:25 PM
These are the critics' precusor tallies.

PICTURE:
About Schmidt (LAFCA, KCFCC)
Adaptation (TFCA, FFC)
Chicago (NYOFC, DFWFCA)
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (LVFCS)
Far From Heaven (NYFCC, SFC, SDFC, GS, CFC)
The Hours (NBR, SEFCA)
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (OFCS)
My Big Fat Greek Wedding (GS)
The Pianist (BSFC, SFFC, NSFC)
Road to Perdition (WDCAFCA)

ACTOR
Adrien Brody - The Pianist (BSFC, NSFC)
Michael Caine - The Quiet American (SFFC, GS)
Nicolas Cage - Adaptation (TFCA)
Kieran Culkin - Igby Goes Down (GS)
Daniel Day-Lewis - Gangs of New York (LAFCA, NYFCC, SEFCA, SFC, NYOFC, SDFC, GS, FFC, CFC, OFCS, KCFCC, LVFCS)
Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt (LAFCA, DFWFCA, WDCAFCA)
Campbell Scott - Roger Dodger (NBR)

ACTRESS
Maggie Gyllenhaal - Secretary (BSFC)
Isabelle Huppert - The Piano Teacher (SFFC)
Nicole Kidman - The Hours (LVFCS)
Diane Lane - Unfaithful (NYFCC, GS, NSFC)
Julianne Moore - Far From Heaven (NBR, LAFCA, FTCA, SEFCA, SFC, NYOFC, SDFC, FFC, CFC, DFWFCA, OFCS, KCFCC, WDCAFCA)
& The Hours (LAFCA)
Jennifer Westfeldt - Kissing Jessica Stein (GS)

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Alan Arkin - 13 Conversations (BSFC)
Michael Constantine (GS)
Chris Cooper - Adaptation (NBR, LAFCA, TFCA, SFFC, SEFCA, SFC, SDFC, FFC, DFWFCA, KCFCC, WDCAFCA)
Willem Dafoe - Auto-Focus (NYOFC)
Dennis Haysbert - Far From Heaven (GS, WDCAFCA)
Dennis Quaid - Far From Heaven (NYFCC, CFC, OFCS)
John C. Reilly - Gangs of New York, The Hours, Chicago (LVFCS)
Christopher Walken - Catch Me If You Can (NSFC)

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kathy Bates - About Schmidt (NBR, DFWFCA, WDCAFCA)
Patricia Clarkson - Far From Heaven (NYFCC, NSFC)
Toni Collette - About a Boy (BSFC), The Hours (BSFC)
Edie Falco - Sunshine State (LAFCA, NYOFC, GS)
Tovah Feldshuh - Kissing Jessica Stein (GS)
Samantha Morton - Minority Report (OFCS)
Bebe Neuwirth - Tadpole (SFC)
Michelle Pfeiffer - White Oleander (SDFC, KCFCC)
Miranda Richardson - Spider (SFFC)
Susan Sarandon - Igby Goes Down, Moonlight Mile (LVFCS)
Meryl Streep - Adaptation (SEFCA, FFC, CFC)
Emily Watson - Punch-Drunk Love (TFCA)

DIRECTOR
Pedro Almodovar - Talk to Her (LAFCA)
Paul Thomas Anderson - Punch-Drunk Love (TFCA)
Todd Haynes - Far From Heaven (NYFCC, SFFC, SFC, NYOFC, GS, CFC)
Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (DFWFCA, OFCS, KCFCC, LVFCS)
Sam Mendes - Road to Perdition (WDCAFCA)
Philip Noyce - The Quiet American, Rabbit-Proof Fence (NBR)
Roman Polanski - The Pianist (BSFC, NSFC)
Martin Scorsese - Gangs of New York (SEFCA, NYOFC, FFC)
Jill Sprecher - 13 Conversations About One Thing (SDFC)
Denzel Washington - Antwone Fisher (WDCAFCA)

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Far From Heaven (SEFCA, SFC, OFCS)
Human Nature (NBR)
Igby Goes Down (LVFCS)
My Big Fat Greek Wedding (WDCAFCA)
Talk to Her (GS)
13 Conversations About One Thing (SDFC)

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
About Schmidt (LAFCA)
Adaptation (NBR, NYFCC, BSFC, TFCA, SEFCA, NYOFC, SDFC, GS, FFC, CFC, OFCS, WDCAFCA)
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (NBR)
The Hours (SFC)
The Pianist (NSFC)

FOREIGN FILM
Italian for Beginners (KCFCC)
Talk to Her (NBR, SDFC, GS)
Y Tu Mama Tambien (LAFCA, NYFCC, BSFC, SFFC, SEFCA, SFC, NYOFC, FFC, CFC, DFWFCA, OFCS, NSFC, LVFCS)

ORIGINAL SONG
The Hands That Built America - Gangs of New York (LVFCS)
Something to Talk About - About a Boy (GS)

ORIGINAL SCORE
Far From Heaven (LAFCA, SFC, CFC, OFCS)
Frida (GS)
25th Hour (LVFCS)

ANIMATED FILM
Ice Age (KCFCC)
Lilo & Stitch (LVFCS, WDCAFCA)
Spirited Away (NBR, LAFCA, NYFCC, NYOFC, GS, FFC, DFWFCA, OFCS)

FILM EDITING
Femme Fatale (SFC)
Gangs of New York (GS)
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (OFCS, LVFCS)
13 Conversations About One Thing (SDFC)

CINEMATOGRAPHY
Far From Heaven (LAFCA, NYFCC, BSFC, SFC, NYOFC, FFC, CFC, DFWFCA, OFCS, NSFC)
Road to Perdition (SDFC, GS, LVFCS)

ART DIRECTION
Far From Heaven (OFCS)
Frida (LVFCS)
Gangs of New York (LAFCA, SFC, GS)
Minority Report (SDFC)

COSTUME DESIGN
Far From Heaven (OFCS)
Frida (GS)
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (LVFCS)

SOUND
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (OFCS)
Solaris (GS)

VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (GS, OFCS, LVFCS)

DOCU FEATURE
Bowling for Columbine (NBR, TFCA, SEFCA, NYOFC, FFC, CFC, DFWFCA, OFCS, KCFCC, LVFCS)
The Cockettes (LAFCA)
The Kid Stays in the Picture (BSFC, SFC, GS, WDCAFCA)
Rivers and Tides (SFFC)
Standing in the Shadows of Motown (NYFCC, NSFC)


American Cinema Editors (ACE)
American Film Institute (AFI)
American Society of Cinematographers (ASC)
Art Directors Guild (ADG)
Boston Society of Film Critics (BSFC)
Broadcast Film Critics Association (BFCA)
Chicago Film Critics (CFC)
Cinema Audio Society (CAS)
Costume Designers Guild (CDG)
Directors Guild of America (DGA)
Dallas-Fort Worth Critics Association (DFWFCA)
Florida Film Critics (FFC)
Golden Globe Awards (GG)
Golden Satellites Awards (GS)
Kansas City Film Critics Circle (KCFCC)
London Film Critics Circle (LFCC)
Los Angeles Film Critics Association (LAFCA)
Los Vegas Film Critics Society (LVFCS)
Makeup/Hairstylists Guild (MHG)
National Board of Review (NBR)
National Society of Film Critics (NSFC)
New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC)
New York Online Film Critics (NYOFC)
Online Film Critics Society (OFCS)
Online Film and Television Association (OFTA)
Phoenix Film Critics (PFC)
Producers Guild of America (PGA)
San Diego Film Critics (SDFC)
San Francisco Film Critics (SFFC)
Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
Seattle Film Critics (SFC)
Southeastern Film Critics Association (SEFCA)
Texas Film Critics (TFC)
Toronto Film Critics Association (TFCA)
Washington DC Area Film Critics Association (WDCAFCA)
Writers Guild of America (WGA)

Mann
01-20-2003, 01:48 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My predictions are:

Drama Picture- Gangs of New York
Drama Actor- daniel Day Lewis
Drama Actress- Julianne Moore

Comedy Picture- Chicago
Comedy Actor- Richard Gere
Comedy Actress- Renee Zellweger

Supporting Actor- Chris Cooper
Supporting Actress- Cameron Diaz

Director- Martin Scorcese
Screenplay- Charlie Kaufman
[/b][/quote]

The winners:
My predictions are:

Drama Picture- The Hours
Drama Actor- Jack Nicholson
Drama Actress- Nicole Kidman

Comedy Picture- Chicago
Comedy Actor- Richard Gere
Comedy Actress- Renee Zellweger

Supporting Actor- Chris Cooper
Supporting Actress- Meryl Streep

Director- Martin Scorcese
Screenplay- Alexander Payne

kopernikuz
01-20-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by kopernikuz@Jan 13 2003, 09:34 PM
Okay, first off... Rob... that avatar has me rolling!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

These aren't necessarily what I would pick, but are what I think will get nominated and win:

Best Picture: Chicago
I just think this film has got the momentum and the following to pull it off. It's the kind of thing the voters would have liked Moulin Rouge to be. It's not as loud and brassy... it's classic like vintage Hollywood. It really screams the heyday and it will win.

Best Director: Martin Scorcese
Since the director of the best picture doesn't seem to get the oscar for his own work on the picture I think it'll swing by in this case as well. Best Picture encompasses the actors, the cinematography, the score, the director, the production as a whole. The director nod goes to the most masterful direction of a film. In this case, though I think the Academy has snubbed him so many times after being nominated that this will be his year.

Best Actor: Jack Nicholson
Too much praise about his role in this one. I haven't seen it, but from the talk he outdoes himself from As Good as it Gets and he won for that. I just think the buzz right now is in his favor and he'll add another statue to his mantle.

Best Actress: Nicole Kidman
She was dogged last year and this year they'll make it up to her. I haven't seen her performance, but the buzz and the "schnozz" tell me she's gonna win it by a nose.

Best Supporting Actor: Dennis Quaid
Why? Because he's back! They'll snub him for anything regarding the Rookie though his performance was superb, but it was a G rated family film. It got the critical acclaim it deserved, but it won't get a nomination. Instead, he'll get a supporting actor nod for Far from Heaven. He'll get this one award for both outstanding performances.

Best Supporting Actress: Julianne Moore
Why? I don't know... she just will. I'm not a big fan myself, but Hollywood has a thing for her. It just feels right here... however I can just as easily see them give Streep (The Hours) the award for snubbing her in the Actress category.

But hands down, I will say it again... Andy Serkis should get nominated at the very LEAST for best supporting actor. If he'd been wearing a costume or makeup (a'la Willem Dafoe in Shadow of a Vampire) he'd be a shoo-in for a nomination... the only thing holding back the Academy is that his costume was digital. WAKE UP ACADEMY! IT'S NO DIFFERENT!! It's still his performance and it outshined anyone else that will be nominated... There's my two cents...
Okay, after the Globes last night... I think my Picture, Director, Actor and Actress categories will definitely hold true. I think the Oscars will go the same route. And I think Streep will get the supporting nod in my secondary scenario.... it was weird to see the Globes head this way.

I haven't seen The Hours, but it was somewhat of a shock to me to see it win last night? Anyone else?

Mann
01-20-2003, 10:44 AM
It won because it had the most nominations. But Chicago will no way in Hell lose to this for Picture.

Also for Actress, Kidman is a front runner, but I think Julianne Moore, if she gets a supporting nod too, will win here. Her performance is getting the most attention, and she's more overdue that kidman.

Nicholson has this one in the bag. If they screw him over, I'll be pissed.

kopernikuz
01-20-2003, 10:57 AM
You think because they divide the comedies/musicals from the dramas in the Globes is why there was a best pic nod for the Hours? In a straight out best pic nom, Chicago is gonna triumph?

By the way, did you see The Hours by chance?

Mann
01-20-2003, 11:10 AM
The Hours isn't around here yet. This blows because we can't see this movie that has alot of hype and such. however, I heard that it was very good from some sources and others said it was a load of bull. The guy who said it was bull agrees with me on alot of movies though, so i'm conflicted. I think it would have gotten a best picture nod even without a division, but not a win.

The pattern in the last few years has been that the Best dramatic picture goes on to win the Oscar, while the Best Director of the Golden Globes loses. The only acting catagories they get right as of recently at the oscars are the Supporting ones. I think Cooper will win now. Streep is being pushed for lead by some (idiots). Lord of the Rings wasn't going to win, but got alot of applause, it could get nominated. Gangs is going to get at least a best director, if no best picture nomination happens, then Scorcese will fail again. Chicago has the most steam and has the best chance right now.

RollaFett
01-20-2003, 02:47 PM
Man, I need to get out and see some damn movies! The last movie I saw in the theater was 'Signs'. I have no clue as to who will win any Oscars.

Mann
01-22-2003, 10:21 AM
Update:

Director's Guild of America Nominees

Stephan Daldry-The Hours
Peter Jackson- The Lord of the Rings- The Two Towers
Rob Marshall- Chicago
Roman Polanski- The Pianist
Martin Scorcese- Gangs of New York

I think I'll play it safe and predict Scorcese.

kopernikuz
01-22-2003, 11:04 AM
I'd go with Scorcese too.

My buddy is on his way right now out to Sundance. A film he worked on is up for the Jury prize: "American Splendor". There are some interesting movies out there this year... I wish I could go... what fun that would be...

Brian
01-22-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Jan 22 2003, 10:21 AM
Update:

Director's Guild of America Nominees

Stephan Daldry-The Hours
Peter Jackson- The Lord of the Rings- The Two Towers
Rob Marshall- Chicago
Roman Polanski- The Pianist
Martin Scorcese- Gangs of New York

I think I'll play it safe and predict Scorcese.
I would like to see PJ get this one, but he probably has another chance with ROTK. So Scorcese will probably win this year.

Mann
01-22-2003, 03:56 PM
I would love to go to Sundance!

I agree, Jackson has a better chance with RotK. BUt how he lost last year to A Beautiful Mind is appaling.

Mann
01-29-2003, 10:17 AM
SAG nominees:

Best Actor:
Adrien Brody-The PIanist
Nicolas Cage-Adaptation
Daniel Day Lewis- Gangs of New York
Richard Gere- Chicago
Jack Nicholson- About Schmidt

Best Actress:
Salma Hayek- Frida
Nicole Kidman- Th HOurs
Diane Lane- Unfaithful
Julianne Moore- Far From Heaven
Renee Zellweger- Chicago

Best Supporting Actor:
Chris Cooper- Adaptation
Alfred Molina-Frida
Ed Harris-The Hours
Dennis Quaid-Far From HEaven
Christopher Walken- Catch ME if you Can

Best Supporting Actress:
Kathy Bates- About Schmidt
Julianne Moore-The Hours
Queen Latifah- Chicago
Michelle Phiefer-White Oleander
Catherine Zeta Jones-Chicago

Best Ensemble:
Adaptation
Chicago
The Hours
Lord of the Rings- The Two Towers
My Big Fat Greek Wedding

Brian
01-29-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Jan 22 2003, 03:56 PM
I agree, Jackson has a better chance with RotK. BUt how he lost last year to A Beautiful Mind is appaling.
Oh, I wasn't saying that PJ had a better chance with ROTK. I meant that he may have another chance. He will likely be nominated for best director again next year. Let's hope he gets it then.

Now, I do agree with that last statement. A Beautiful Mind was just sub-par compared to FOTR, IMHO.

Mann
01-29-2003, 04:06 PM
sure thing now:

Best Picture:
Chicago (Golden Globe Award, PGA nomination, DGA nomination, 5 SAG nominations, BAFTA nomination this is unstoppable)
The Hours (Golden Globe Award, DGA Nomination, 4 SAG nominations, BAFTA Nomination- most likely unstoppable)
Lord of the Rings (Golden Globe nomination, PGA nomination, PGA nomination, Sag nomination, Bafta Nomination)
Gangs of New York (Golden Globe nomination, PGA nomination, DGA nomination, BAFTA nomination)

Best director:
Martin Scorcese-Gangs of New York (Golden Globe Award, DGA nomination, virtual nominee in every critic precursor)
Stephan Daldry-the Hours (Golden Globe nomination, DGA Nomination, Bafta Nomination)
Rob MArshall- Chicago (Golden Globe nomination, DGA nomination, movie is Chicago)
Peter Jackson- (Golden Globe nomination, DGA nomination, Bafta Nomination, movie is Lotr)

Best Actor:
Jack Nicholson- (Goledn Globe Award, SAG nomination, every award group nominee, he;s old)
Daniel Day Lewis (Golden Globe, SAG nomination, critical darling)
Richard Gere (Golden Globe Award, SAG nomination, They would never have thought this twenty years ago.)

BEst Actress:
Nicole Kidman (Golden Globe Award, SAG, Award Virtual shoo in)
Renee Zellweger (Golden Globe Award, SAG nomination, movie is CHicago)
Julianne Moore (Golden Globe Nomination, SAG nomination, She deserves to win)
Salma Hayek (Golden Globe nomination, SAG nomination, We never would have thought it could happen)

Best Supporting Actor:
Chris Cooper (Golden Globe Award, SAG nomination, The critical darling, has it in the bag)
Dennis Quaid (Golden Globe nomination, SAG nomination, Had a banner year)
Christopher Walken (SAG nomination, it's been so long since he won)

Best Supporting Actress:
Meryl Streep (Golden Globe award, Been so long since she won)
Julianne Moore (SAG nomination, Had a banner year)
Kathey Bates (Golden Globe Award, SAG Award, we love her)

Mann
01-30-2003, 04:16 PM
just heqrd some really terrible news. Not sure if it is true or not.

Best make up has been narrowed down to two slots:

Frida
The Time Machine

Mann
02-11-2003, 10:25 AM
alright they came out today, and the most notable snub was Peter JAckson for Best Director. I'm fuminf right now.

Javen
02-11-2003, 10:34 AM
Te Academy Awards are so biased it's not even funny.

kopernikuz
02-11-2003, 10:51 AM
They are officially out now... there are some polls in the polls section for the main categories so sound off...

Should be interesting to say the least...


ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Adrien Brody
Nicolas Cage
Michael Caine
Daniel Day-Lewis
Jack Nicholson

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Chris Cooper
Ed Harris
Paul Newman
John C. Reilly
Christopher Walken

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Salma Hayek
Nicole Kidman
Diane Lane
Julianne Moore
Renée Zellweger

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Kathy Bates
Julianne Moore
Queen Latifah
Meryl Streep
Catherine Zeta-Jones

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
ICE AGE
LILO & STITCH
SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON
SPIRITED AWAY
TREASURE PLANET

ART DIRECTION
CHICAGO
FRIDA
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
ROAD TO PERDITION

CINEMATOGRAPHY
CHICAGO
FAR FROM HEAVEN
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE PIANIST
ROAD TO PERDITION

COSTUME DESIGN
CHICAGO
FRIDA
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE HOURS
THE PIANIST

DIRECTING
CHICAGO
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE HOURS
THE PIANIST
TALK TO HER

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE
DAUGHTER FROM DANANG
PRISONER OF PARADISE
SPELLBOUND
WINGED MIGRATION

DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
THE COLLECTOR OF BEDFORD STREET
MIGHTY TIMES: THE LEGACY OF ROSA PARKS
TWIN TOWERS
WHY CAN'T WE BE A FAMILY AGAIN?

FILM EDITING
CHICAGO
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE HOURS
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
THE PIANIST

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
EL CRIMEN DEL PADRE AMARO
HERO
THE MAN WITHOUT A PAST
NOWHERE IN AFRICA
ZUS & ZO

MAKEUP
FRIDA
THE TIME MACHINE

MUSIC (SCORE)
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN
FAR FROM HEAVEN
FRIDA
THE HOURS
ROAD TO PERDITION

MUSIC (SONG)
CHICAGO
8 MILE
FRIDA
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE WILD THORNBERRYS MOVIE

BEST PICTURE
CHICAGO
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE HOURS
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
THE PIANIST

SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)
THE CATHEDRAL
THE CHUBBCHUBBS!
DAS RAD
MIKE'S NEW CAR
MT. HEAD

SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)
FAIT D'HIVER
I'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE… (J'ATTENDRAI LE SUIVANT…)
INJA (DOG)
JOHNNY FLYNTON
THIS CHARMING MAN (DER ER EN YNDIG MAND)

SOUND
CHICAGO
GANGS OF NEW YORK
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
ROAD TO PERDITION
SPIDER-MAN

SOUND EDITING
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
MINORITY REPORT
ROAD TO PERDITION

VISUAL EFFECTS
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
SPIDER-MAN
STAR WARS EPISODE II ATTACK OF THE CLONES

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)
ABOUT A BOY
ADAPTATION
CHICAGO
THE HOURS
THE PIANIST

WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)
FAR FROM HEAVEN
GANGS OF NEW YORK
MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING
TALK TO HER
Y TU MAMÁ TAMBIÉN

Mann
02-11-2003, 09:17 PM
Notice that Jackson was not nominated. I will hate the Academy until they friggin give it to him next year for Return of the King. Gangs of New York with 10 nominations? It's a crap movie!

Brian
02-13-2003, 05:33 PM
Okay, the nominations are announced. I am not totally surprised, but there was one snub that comes to mind.

Hero by Chad Kroeger and Josey Scott. I think that song was worthy of a "Best Song" nomination. Ah, well...what do I know?

~OBG