MOVIES: Ghost Rider

[darthimmus]

I figure since there's alot of information starting to come out about this movie, we might as well get a thread going (If there's alreeady a GR movie thread, I couldn't find it)

So far, I think the Hell Cycle looks OK, I think I need to see it in action. I like the Danny Ketch inspired costume that's shown up in the set pics.

[Spacehunter24]

All I've seen is a picture of the Hell Cycle, and I think it looks pretty awesome. I never read the Ghost Rider comic, though, but I'm really curious to see what the movie will be like. If for nothing else, than to see what Nick Cage looks like with his head engulfed in flames. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue2.gif (Not that I mean that in a mean-spirited way. I think Cage rocks.)

[Jedi_of_the_North]

Think anyone can put links up. I don't really have the time to hunt for Ghost Rider info. Thanks in advance folks!

[darthimmus]

Superherohype.com has some nice production shots of GR and his Hellcycle, with lights standing in for what will become flames after post-production. if you squint hard, it looks like fire!

[darthimmus]

Here's a small pis of the Hellcycle...I'll post a larger pic if anybody wants a better look

[Jedi_of_the_North]

Nice...hopefully they'll do a good job with the characters

[darthimmus]

The official Ghost Rider site is up, but so far all they have is that same pic of the Hellcycle.

Ghost Rider (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/)

[darthimmus]

First promo Ghost Rider shot!

[Findsman]

Here's a link to a recent article on MTV.com where Avi Arad, the head of Marvel, talks about the company's various upcoming film adaptations, including Ghost Rider.

Future Shocks: What's ahead for Avi Arad and his Marvel empire? (http://www.mtv.com/shared/movies/interviews/a/arad_avi_062005/)

[DarthAnakin]

Nicolas Cage is one of my favorite actors so i'm really looking forward to this movie.

[jedi hunter]

^I think he is a good actor but i dont think he make a good bad ass like the ghost rider comics.

[Jedi_of_the_North]

I don't know...Danny Ketch isn't really a badass. Ghost Rider is one and I think Cage can pull it off but if they're just using his voice for the CGI that's going to have to be in it to make Ghost Rider, then it'll be great, because that man's voice in one of his movies (I can't remember which right now) scared to tar out of me. Even if he is the body of Ghost Rider too, it's amazing what a flaming skull for a head, a chain whip, and a Hellcycle can do to one's "bad ass level"

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by jedi hunter@Jun 22 2005, 09:50 PM
^I think he is a good actor but i dont think he make a good bad ass like the ghost rider comics.
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I guess we'll just have to wait and see, I think he'll do fine.

[darthimmus]

Updated version of the GR promo shot

[darthimmus]

Pic of the Hellcycle from the comic-con

[Mark Skywalker]

Nick Cage as Johnny Blaze Awesome!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif

[Findsman]

This article from Superhero Hype (http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3304) discusses a teaser trailer for Ghost Rider that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con, as well as a panel held with Avi Arad, director Mark Steven Johnson, and Eva Mendes (who portrays Roxanne in the movie). The information on the trailer sounds very interesting, although the article indicates that Ghost Rider himself was never shown. Unfortunately, the article indicated that the teaser will not be made available online.

[Mark Skywalker]

Originally posted by Findsman@Jul 17 2005, 09:15 PM
This article from Superhero Hype (http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3304) discusses a teaser trailer for Ghost Rider that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con, as well as a panel held with Avi Arad, director Mark Steven Johnson, and Eva Mendes (who portrays Roxanne in the movie). The information on the trailer sounds very interesting, although the article indicates that Ghost Rider himself was never shown. Unfortunately, the article indicated that the teaser will not be made available online.
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Eva's in the movie SWEET!!!!!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[darthimmus]

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3374

GR update. Click on the link to the message boards at the end of the article for a lot more info!

[darthimmus]

First look at the Ghost Rider villian, Blackheart (in his human form)

[Cassus Fett]

Whats Ghostrider about?

[P-Ray]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21821

This is fairly cool!

[Zobb]

Too much CG. It should be more natural.........

[Gantoris]

^I agree......

[P-Ray]

Ghost rider pushed to 2007!

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3696

[darthimmus]

For those who are interested:

Columbia Pictures will launch the first reveal of Ghost Rider on Tuesday (Dec. 20) at 12:00pm (noon) PST! The studio will update the film's official website at GhostRider-Movie.com with a 10 second piece in which you'll see the blazing Ghost Rider for the first time. The Flash animation of the Ghost Rider will also be worth checking out.

[RollaFett]

I just checked it out. It's quick, but not too shabby. Still 14 months away for crissakes! Too long.

[empire21]

It looks pretty good, but all you see is ghostrider, so hopefully it looks just as good while interacting with other characters

[darthimmus]

Ghost Rider teaser trailer to be shown with X3!

[empire21]

^I just read the same, and it's another reason for me to go see X3

[P-Ray]

Ghost Rider artwork!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3969

[empire21]

^that looks great, wish I had a bike like that

[RollaFett]

Hmmm...looks good. I suppose then. based on some of that artwork, that we'll see an earlier "western" version of Ghost Rider as well, eh?

[darthimmus]

Teaser trailers online!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/

[empire21]

Awesome, this i'm looking forward to

[P-Ray]

It actually looked really good!

[Virus]

Nicholas Cage usually does fun movies so this has a good chance.

Is it me or did that trailer seem beyond CGIed? It just looked too fakey for me, but I still enjoyed it.

[empire21]

Some pics

http://www.marvel.com/news/moviestories.447

[Recse]

Good info!

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=37331

[empire21]

New Ghost Rider Poster

http://journals.aol.com/summermovieblog/summer-movie-releases?ncid=AOLMOV00180000000002

[RollaFett]

Finally saw the trailer, and while it does look very CGIish, I would expect that considering how early it was put together. Overall, though, I thought the trailer kicked ass!

[empire21]

Definetly looking forward to this and that trailer was pretty good.

And it seems they removed that poster, so here it is incase anyone missed it.

[darthimmus]

Here's a link to the new trailer for anybody that needs it
http://movies.aol.com/movie-trailer-clip/ghost-rider-nicolas-cage

[Zedekk]

^ link won't work for me... and I need it!

[empire21]

^ link won't work for me... and I need it!

Here ya go Zed, see if this one works for you.

http://movies.aol.com/movie-trailer-clip/ghost-rider-nicolas-cage?ncid=AOLMOV00050000000009

[Zedekk]

^ Oh yes! thank you :bow:

[empire21]

Blaze's tranformation into Ghost Rider video clip

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ghostridernews.php?id=4805

[P-Ray]

^Wow! Cool and intense!

[darthimmus]

Looks sweet

[empire21]

^Wow! Cool and intense!

Looks sweet

Agreed, this is one of the comics I read alot when I was a teenager and to me it looks great, I can't wait.

[darthimmus]

GR site updated with lot's of goodies!
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/

[P-Ray]

transformation explaination!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30950

[empire21]

I can't wait to see the transformation it's going to be wicked.

[RollaFett]

It already appears as though the behind the scenes stuff for the dvd will be pretty good too, if that clip is any indication.

[empire21]

It already appears as though the behind the scenes stuff for the dvd will be pretty good too, if that clip is any indication.

Agreed, I also find it kind of funny that the movie isn't even out yet and i'm already looking forward to the eventual 2 disc release. :P

[empire21]

Ghost Rider Review.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5185

[kopernikuz]

Cool, I have to admit, I was hesitant to see Cage do this... I like him... I just was worried a bit... glad to hear a positive review. I'm more excited to check it out now.

[Kapit]

totally not looking forward to this whatsoever. the CG skull head looks uber-fake and the movie itself looks just....meh

unfortunately, we're getting inundated with comic book movies because x-men was so good. yeh, there are the gems like Batman Begins, the first two X-Men movies, and Superman Returns, but the overwhelming majority just suck.

Fantastic Four and its sequel, Hulk, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Catwoman, the rumored Flash and Wonder Woman movies.....
please let it end

[RollaFett]

^ Boooo!!!!!

Kidding aside, I'm a big fan of the current abundence of comic book films. True, they're not all great, but I wouldn't expect them all to succeed. I remember reading comics in my youth and just wondering how cool it would be to see these characters actually move, and cartoons, while damn cool, wasn't never quite enough for me.

[P-Ray]

I'm a big fan of the current abundence of comic book films. True, they're not all great, but I wouldn't expect them all to succeed. I remember reading comics in my youth and just wondering how cool it would be to see these characters actually move, and cartoons, while damn cool, wasn't never quite enough for me.
As am I!:happydance:

[techno-union]

This was shot in my home city of Melbourne. The stadium in the trailor is the Telstra Dome, where they play Australian football & soccer. It's just a stones throw from the actual studio. The bridge he rides across is the yarra river footbridge next to the main train station. You can see it all on Google Earth.

[P-Ray]

A postive Ghost Rider review!


http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31531

[kopernikuz]

Well, went to see this last night. Will maybe try to give a more thorough review later, but my initial impressions:

* Eva Mendes was fine as Roxie, but terrible as a reporter. The "reporter" scenes were just terrible and you never believed she was a reporter, but credit the script and the director here as these scenes were just hokey... as the love interest though, she was okay I suppose, but not great. Best reporter scene was the goth girl, but only because the goth girl was pretty funny.

* Ghost Rider was cool as hell. The transformation was painful and the bike was rockin'... it was just really awesome to see this character in action, I've always liked the comic and I thought the did a pretty good job bringing him to life.

* Story a tad weak, but fairs well enough to open the franchise, if indeed it gets one, though some of the campier even cheesy elements of the film might hurt its chances at this.

* Cage was a nut, thought his Blaze was kind of interesting, he was clearly trying to give the character some quirks and tics so that he wasn't just a cardboard cutout hero you only endured long enough to see him catch on fire. He wanted Blaze to be as interesting as GR, and I liked him okay. It was a vintage Cage role, nothing really groundbreaking.

Let's just cut to the chase... the film wasn't awesome... but it was a good time. It had its moments of camp and its moments of hilarity whether intentional or not you sometimes can't tell. Lines worthy of some of the best Arnold movies drop throughout, you can decide for yourself whether you like those kind of lines or not. My biggest complaint about some of the lines is that GR's voice is so distorted, you almost don't make out the lines.

One example: the demons GR fights take on elements of Earth, Wind, and Water... GR must be fire, right? Anyway... when GR comes up behind Earth and calls him "Dirtbag", it's supposed to generate at least a chuckle. But I looked around and I don't think half the audience understood that's what he said, because there was little reaction. Maybe it wasn't all that funny, but it stands to reason GR is just tough to understand sometimes with his garbled voice and the strains of the soundtrack.

I'm interested to hear what some die-hard GR fans begin to say now... my comic book guy is one of those and I can't wait to hear his opinion.


My favorite part (might be a spoiler, but I've seen it in the trailers, so decide for yourself if you want to read on (highlight to see):

I loved when Ghost Rider was riding next to Carter Slade on the horse... just a really cool fanboy type scene that had me smiling... blazing bike and rider and blazing cowboy and rider... well done. I was disappointed however that Slade then left GR when they got to their destination. It was a fanboy moment too short-lived as we didn't get to see anything past that. Would've been neat to see them both in action, even if only for the beginning of the final battle.

All in all, far from perfect... but not a bad time. I and my son both enjoyed ourselves and would probably see another one if they made it.

[empire21]

Sounds like a worthy DVD pick up. :yes:

[P-Ray]

I have to wait until next weekend to go see it.

Some of the aicn.com reviews are tearing it up but I still want to see it in theaters.

[kopernikuz]

Sounds like a worthy DVD pick up. :yes:
Yeah, I'd agree with that... I think it's gonna get tanked in reviews, and not undeservingly... it's got this air of camp that you just never really can tell if it's intentional or not, lol. But it's entertaining enough to see, but if you're discretionary with your cinema dollar, it might be worth waiting for DVD.

[empire21]

but if you're discretionary with your cinema dollar, it might be worth waiting for DVD.

Nah, it's not that, I just get real claustrophobic in a theatre and can't sit still I only made exceptions for Star Wars and LotR, i'd like to go see it but I doubt I will.

[Fallen One]

Nah, it's not that, I just get real claustrophobic in a theatre and can't sit still I only made exceptions for Star Wars and LotR, i'd like to go see it but I doubt I will.You sound just like me last movie I seen at the theatre was superman returns. Hell if you just wait in 3 months or less it will be out on Dvd:wink:. I did not have high expectations for Ghostrider anyways I will wait for the dvd..

[empire21]

You sound just like me last movie I seen at the theatre was superman returns. Hell if you just wait in 3 months or less it will be out on Dvd:wink:. I did not have high expectations for Ghostrider anyways I will wait for the dvd..

Plus theres also the fact that if I wait and spend 10 extra dollars I own the movie forever, but if I go see it, like it and buy it again i'm spending 10 extra dollars. The only film franchises I don't mind spending ridiculous amounts of money on is Star Wars, LotR and Star Trek(23rd century mind you :nahnah: ) .

[Fallen One]

Plus theres also the fact that if I wait and spend 10 extra dollars I own the movie forever, but if I go see it, like it and buy it again i'm spending 10 extra dollars. The only film franchises I don't mind spending ridiculous amounts of money on is Star Wars, LotR and Star Trek(23rd century mind you :nahnah: ) .Very true plus if you wait for the Dvd when you watch it at home and get thirsty or hungry you don't have to take a loan out or hit the atm. last time I was there I got a water and some popcorn not thinking about the price cause its been so long she said to me at will be $5.75 I said what the:censored: its a water she said well its $2.25:banghead: and the small popcorn was 3 something.:blink:

[P-Ray]

Very true plus if you wait for the Dvd when you watch it at home and get thirsty or hungry you don't have to take a loan out or hit the atm. last time I was there I got a water and some popcorn not thinking about the price cause its been so long she said to me at will be $5.75 I said what the:censored: its a water she said well its $2.25:banghead: and the small popcorn was 3 something.:blink:
Yeah, the prices are getting ridiculous. Plus, sometimes the distractions that occur at the theater. That's why theater movies for me are just special events.

[empire21]

I think the last time I got popcorn at the movies was before TPM and at the time I thought the prices were crazy, I can only imagine what they are now and as you say, P-Ray, it's only special events that I actually go to the theatre, like the movies I mentioned above.

[Kapit]

I think the last time I got popcorn at the movies was before TPM and at the time I thought the prices were crazy, I can only imagine what they are now and as you say, P-Ray, it's only special events that I actually go to the theatre, like the movies I mentioned above.



At the theater I work at, a Large Popcorn and Large Pop/Icee runs $10 even, with one refill allowed on each.

a Large Popcorn and Two Large Pops/Icees is $14, I believe. I don't work the concession stand, I hate it because all people do is confuse the orders and complain about the prices. Box office is where it's at :D

[Javen]

Ghost Rider' takes $44.5M at box office

By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 48 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - Satan's bounty hunter has looted the wallets of movie-goers. "Ghost Rider," Sony's comic-book adaptation starring Nicolas Cage (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=Nicolas+Cage) as a motorcycle stunt driver moonlighting as a collector of evil souls for the devil, debuted as the top weekend movie with $44.5 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070218/ap_en_mo/box_office

[Horse_Head]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGV9LnZeV0

[P-Ray]

B.O. update!

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5286

[empire21]

June release for DVD?

http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=0&tiq=89099

[empire21]

June 12th DVD release date confirmed along with a 2 disc extended edition.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ghost-rider.html

[P-Ray]

^I'm curious to see what the cover is going to look like.

[empire21]

^I'm curious to see what the cover is going to look like.


I'm sure it will be good, I mean a flaming skull and Eva Mendes, you can't get it wrong at all.:)

I just hope that 2 disc extended cut comes with the theatrical cut, i'd like to see the theatrical before the extended.

Damn these choices we must make. :P

[P-Ray]

Yeah, they are getting really smart.

Now instead of releasing a DVD and then releasing it again with more extras on it a few months later, they are releasing a bare bones one and then one with all the extras and much more expensive at the same time.

That much more expensive one with all the extras used to be released first for under $20 but now have jacked the price way up while they release another version with absolutely nothing on it for the under $20 price.

Getting a little irratating to me.

[empire21]

Getting a little irratating to me.

That it is and it's taking the fun out of buying DVD's.

I'm hopeful that Best Buy will have a good one day sale for the realease like they always do on big releases, if it's only a $2-$3 difference between sets i'll get the 2 disc but if it's like the Eragon release, which over here was like an $8 dollar difference then i'll be waiting.

[P-Ray]

That it is and it's taking the fun out of buying DVD's.

I'm hopeful that Best Buy will have a good one day sale for the realease like they always do on big releases, if it's only a $2-$3 difference between sets i'll get the 2 disc but if it's like the Eragon release, which over here was like an $8 dollar difference then i'll be waiting.
Yeah, I ended up getting the basic version of Eragon because the one with extras was so expensive and there were other DVDs I wanted to get also, so I couldn't afford it.:giveup:

[P-Ray]

Official DVD anouncement!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5470

[empire21]

An extra featurette and a few more minutes of movie, not much of difference between the single and 2 disc. Hopefully Best Buy will have a good sale for the DVD.

[P-Ray]

Here's the cover art!

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ghost-rider.html

[empire21]

I was kinda hoping for something other then the movie poster. :ohwell:

[empire21]

Here's the cover art!

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ghost-rider.html


^ Follow that same link for the Extended Edition Artwork.

[P-Ray]

DVD is burning up the charts!

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5887

[RollaFett]

Well, I finally saw this over the weekend.

Utterly disappointing. I only read the comics for a short while in the early 90's when it wasn't Johnny Blaze, and I hardly remember details from that anyway.
So, the film kinda' sucked. Took way too long to see Ghost Rider, there were too many hokey jokes, and of course, there was the obligatory climax where it's Nic Cage defeating the main baddie instead of Ghost Rider.
I read someone else mention the reporting scenes being hokey. Well, I've worked in the TV media and I can safely say you are incorrect. They weren't hokey at all, they were friggin' retarded!
When GR was on screen, I admit, he did look pretty cool. Soooo...why not have him on screen more often?
No sequel, please.

[empire21]

Yep, Ghost Rider pretty much sucked.

I haven't heard any word on a sequel so you may get your wish, Rolla. :wink:

[P-Ray]

Yep, Ghost Rider pretty much sucked.


I guess that I am the only one around here who actually enjoyed Ghost Rider!

It wasn't a masterpiece mind you, but I liked alot of it.

[borgmatrix]

I guess that I am the only one around here who actually enjoyed Ghost Rider!

It wasn't a masterpiece mind you, but I liked alot of it.
It was way too goofy for me. I think there was only one scene I really liked, and that was the initial transformation to GR, which was great both from an fx perspective, but also with regards to what Cage brought to it. But otherwise, the whole thing was a waste. I'd rank it as the second worst I saw last year (better only than We Own the Night).

Now this is a series that could benefit from a reboot and "do over" like Hulk is getting. There's potential and I'd love to see GR done right.

[RollaFett]

It was even weak in the style that it was shot. Way too colorful and bright, IMO. And considering that it was Mark Steven Johnson who directed it, I would've expected a much darker tone and look from the guy who directed Daredevil.

[borgmatrix]

It was even weak in the style that it was shot. Way too colorful and bright, IMO. And considering that it was Mark Steven Johnson who directed it, I would've expected a much darker tone and look from the guy who directed Daredevil.
Well, you know what, it sounds to me like his experience with Daredevil really colored things for the worse for him. Though he'll never come out and say it, I have a feeling that after what the studio did to Daredevil, he felt "what's the point" and resigned himself to putting out the crap they wanted.

With Daredevil, he had a 2 hr, 30 minute, R-rated film that the studio made him (pretty much arbitrarily) cut down to 1 hr, 40 minutes and PG-13. So I think with this one, he figured "if they're just gonna screw the film anyway, I might as well throw in the pg-13 crap they want now and save myself the trouble." Of course, the unfortunate thing then is that there's no the-way-I-intended-it version waiting in the wings for eventual dvd release, like there was with Daredevil.

This is just speculation. But I'm pretty sure he was resigning himself to the inevitable. If so, I'm not taking blame away from him. I have more respect for those who stand up for what's best creatively. But at the same time, I could understand being completely soured after putting your heart into a movie (like Daredevil) and then watching the studio butcher it with no choice but to watch it happen. MSJ might have decided to just distance himself and not emotionally invest in creating something great, and instead try to do something more like what the studio would want, something lighter, more humor-filled, etc.

Just speculation.

[RollaFett]

Hmmmm...speculation sure, but it makes a boatload of sense. In that case, though, I'm surprised he would even make another comic book film after Daredevil. But, it's not as if he's got a huge directing resume, so a job's a job sometimes.
As far as a director's cut goes, I'm not so sure. The version I watched was actually labeled as the "Extended edition", but having not seen the original, I have no idea what the differeces are.

[P-Ray]

Cage talks Ghost Rider 2!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ghostridernews.php?id=7640

[RollaFett]

Ugh. As much as I made it clear that I would not want to see a sequel, who knows? Maybe they get it right the 2nd time around? I have very little faith, but it's possible.