Clone Wars: The 3D Animation series

[Sam Kenobi]

Star Wars TV Series, 30 minute episodes!

Originally posted by LasheFett@Mar 29 2005, 09:52 AM
THE CLONE WARS LIVES!!!!!!!!

Its comfirmed.......KICK ASS!!!!

Could it be CLone Wars Volume III: The Emipire?

Clone Wars TV...Interveiw with Lucas (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8978)

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[JediTrilobite]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi+Mar 29 2005, 12:56 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Kenobi @ Mar 29 2005, 12:56 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Star Wars TV Series, 30 minute episodes!

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THE CLONE WARS LIVES!!!!!!!!

Its comfirmed.......KICK ASS!!!!

Could it be CLone Wars Volume III: The Emipire?

Clone Wars TV...Interveiw with Lucas (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8978)

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Not sure if that means that there'll be another Clone Wars series. I was under the impression that it's be live action.

[Darth Rebelo]

Since Celebration 3 gave us confirmation of this, I will bump this thread and make it sticky.



What we know so far:

- Episodes will be 30 minutes long.

- It will use some form of 3D-Animation.

- The people doing it (according to Leland Chee) have asked for copies of all the Clone Wars EU materials.

[Darth-Dragon116]

I hope this is true, i have been waiting for a 3d animated star wars for a long time! they could do more than just that clone wars as well (such as the X-wing Rogue Sqaudron comic series)!

[Valin Kenobi]

Steve Sansweet released more details today at San Diego Comic-Con.

From StarWars.com's Comic-Con coverage (http://):

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>A large component of the future of Star Wars and Lucasfilm is digital animation. Sansweet announced that the new Lucasfilm Animation division is open for business. "I'm very excited to be able to break the news to you here this afternoon that <span style="color:red">preproduction has begun on the next generation of the Star Wars saga, a cutting edge 30-minute, 3-D computer-animation series based on the Clone Wars</span> that take place between Episode II ... and Episode III."

The new series, Sansweet explained, is planned for <span style="color:red">a TV debut in the Fall of 2007</span>. "To get the series underway, Lucasfilm Animation has hired key production and creative talent to lead the development of its first animation project," said Sansweet. "Gail Currey, who's the Vice President and General Manager of Lucasfilm Animation couldn't be here today, but she asked me to tell you that the early episodic treatments for the series are absolutely amazing, and that she can't wait to share this treat with Star Wars fans."

Sansweet described the look of the new series as <span style="color:red">a melding of Asian anime with unique 3-D animation styling</span>. He identified key members of the new television team. <span style="color:red">Executive Producer of the series will be Catherine Winder</span>, whose credits include Ice Age, "Aeon Flux," and "Spawn." Also hired is <span style="color:red">Dave Filoni</span>, whose credits include "Avatar: The Last Airbender." The Head of Lucasfilm Animation's Singapore location, where a lot of the animation work will take place, will be <span style="color:red">Chris Kubsch</span>. His credits include the ILM animated short Work in Progress, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets and Titanic.

"Also on board is a guy who is already familiar to many Star Wars fans," said Sansweet. It's <span style="color:red">Henry Gilroy, who wrote the Dark Horse comic adaptations of both Episodes I and II</span>.

"Over the next several years, Lucasfilm Animation will be hiring a total of about 300 digital artists and others in both [California and Singapore] locations to produce not only the series and animated feature films in the years ahead," said Sansweet.[/b][/quote]

[packersfan]

This would be a great way to keep Star Wars on screen. Do 3D animated shows of the events prior, between, after the movies. I always wanted to SEE the Thrawn trilogy events.

[jfreadjr]

star wars on tv? awesome all i can say.........i have a good feeling about this!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><span style="color:red">a melding of Asian anime with unique 3-D animation styling</span>[/b][/quote]

Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa..... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/help.gif . "Asian Anime".... Let's just pray it isn't
as bad as it seems. As I said in the Star Wars TV thread, mixing Star Wars
with anime will result in a bullet in my head as well as all the people involved
at Lucasfilm.

[smudger9]

If this series is gonna cover the events between AOTC an ROTS wont it clash with the Clone Wars animated series that have already been made??

[Darth Rebelo]

Not really. The Clone Wars lasted 36 months. Even counting all mediums: toons, novels, comics, video games etc., there are still at least seven month that we know nothing at all about, not even the name of one battle that took place in said month. Plus many of the months only have one or two battles.

Remember the Clone Wars spanned hundreds of planets. Of course if the creators of the new series feel that the main characters such as Obi-Wan, Anakin et al. have to be in every episode then it may get harder to find room. But if they are willing to focuse on new characters and minor characters then there won't be a problem.

[holocron9]

Originally posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 11 2005, 11:18 AM
Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa..... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/help.gif . "Asian Anime".... Let's just pray it isn't
as bad as it seems. As I said in the Star Wars TV thread, mixing Star Wars
with anime will result in a bullet in my head as well as all the people involved
at Lucasfilm.
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What's wrong with anime? Don't getta me wrongo, I'd hate to see this series done in the Pokemon style (which being 3D, we shouldn't have to worry about), but anime would be an excellent way to approach Star Wars. I've been hoping for years that someone would do an anime adaptation of the X-Wing series.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Originally posted by holocron9@Aug 19 2005, 05:59 PM
What's wrong with anime?* Don't getta me wrongo, I'd hate to see this series done in the Pokemon style (which being 3D, we shouldn't have to worry about), but anime would be an excellent way to approach Star Wars.* I've been hoping for years that someone would do an anime adaptation of the X-Wing series.
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No....
Just... no.


TOO MUCH ANIME! Anime is what destroyed my Saturday mornings
as a kid. Anime is what destroyed my week days as an teenager.
Anime... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying anime should be taken off
TV altogether... I just beg them to make an all anime channel, no anime
on any other channel AT ALL... and restore all my old favorite TV shows.


But, this has been said many times, but the idiots who run the Television
stations don't listen.


Now, Back on Topic.

[bendu]

I like to think of the Clone Wars toons as just some fun. I have no problem with the new show denouncing it. I'd rather more plot placed into it. I like the idea of them exploring things in the comics. I also like the combination of anime and cg.

Thrawn man, you are looking at the worst anime for examples. Have you ever watched Cowboy Bebop? That's the best kind of anime, I believe. Awesome show too, I recommend it to everyone. As long as you can enjoy it with subtitles, because as far as I know there isn't any in english.

Anyway, a Clone Wars show would be fun. Though I heard to shows were in the works. One animated and the other live action. But I could be wrong.

[Kapit]

we've been oversaturated with too much anime already. i think LFL needs to focus more on a traditional style of animation rather than go with the (most of the time) over the top anime. the last cartoons were great, and turning them into an anime....no


BUT, they do know how to tell a good story in japan, so i think it would be best if the anime elements were limited to story-telling, as opposed to actual look

[Valin Kenobi]

Originally posted by bendu@Oct 5 2005, 04:43 PM
Anyway, a Clone Wars show would be fun. Though I heard to shows were in the works. One animated and the other live action. But I could be wrong.
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You heard right, but the live-action one is supposed to be set between Episodes III and IV, though we don't know concrete details yet.

[P-Ray]

A little update!


http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=11485

[DarthAnakin]

3D Animated series eh? How would that look? Like the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Or would it look differently?

[bendu]

Have any of you seen Animatrix? Final Flight of the Osiris is a combination of anime and cg. If you have something against the look of that, I don't know what you would like.

[DarthAnakin]

Animatrix eh, I wouldn't mind it looking like that.

[Kapit]

Originally posted by bendu@Oct 12 2005, 01:34 PM
Have any of you seen Animatrix? Final Flight of the Osiris is a combination of anime and cg. If you have something against the look of that, I don't know what you would like.
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if they keep CW as subtle as that, then that's great

[DarthLazious]

It sounds so cool.....I can't wait to see how it turns out.

I saw the Anmiatrix and I loved it.

[luengoalvareza]

animatrix saw it but didint like it

[luengoalvareza]

anyone here that can reply :

[DarthAnakin]

No new news about the series lately, not much to talk about. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Darth Fool]

Some news:
http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/ne...51026.html#7728 (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/about/news/news20051026.html#7728)

[darthsith19]

There will be another Cartoon as well as a live action tv show.

[DarthLazious]

This sounds very cool.

[andrewkess159]

It better not be so cartoony...I want it to look as realistic as the CGI that they put into the SW movies....

[smudger9]

I'm hoping it will spans the clone wars right upto ROTS, includig order 66. I want to see exactly what happened at the end of the clone wars. Specifically the battle of Kasyyyk with Luminara Unduli and other battles that we briefly saw in ROTS like Mygeeto. Maybe even some action involving Quinlan Vos.

[andrewkess159]

Originally posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn+Aug 20 2005, 12:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grand Admiral Thrawn @ Aug 20 2005, 12:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-holocron9@Aug 19 2005, 05:59 PM
What's wrong with anime?* Don't getta me wrongo, I'd hate to see this series done in the Pokemon style (which being 3D, we shouldn't have to worry about), but anime would be an excellent way to approach Star Wars.* I've been hoping for years that someone would do an anime adaptation of the X-Wing series.
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No....
Just... no.


TOO MUCH ANIME! Anime is what destroyed my Saturday mornings
as a kid. Anime is what destroyed my week days as an teenager.
Anime... :banghead:
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying anime should be taken off
TV altogether... I just beg them to make an all anime channel, no anime
on any other channel AT ALL... and restore all my old favorite TV shows.


But, this has been said many times, but the idiots who run the Television
stations don't listen.


Now, Back on Topic.
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I may sound strange, but I have anime-fobia...I'll have to throw my sofa out my balcony window if I have to in order to convince Lucas! Oh, and the blood and cussing comes with anime, also. I'd hate to see Obi-Wan screaming out every 4 letter word he can think of.

Maybe the TV show can use some sort of realistic CGI, like they had in the movies. Maybe Kit Fisto and Shaak Ti could be featured in it a whole lot more than they were in the movies.

[Ithorian guy]

I also hope it is not anime. Star Wars is an AMERICAN made movie. Not ASIAN. I wish they would do it in a style of animation that would reflect the Droids and Ewoks cartoons of the 80's instead of the anime-ish Clone Wars series of today.

[DarthSolo]

um.....I don't think we need to bring cultures into all of this. Star Wars is popular world wide. This board has people from all four hemispheres, if I'm not mistaken, not just America. In fact, SW was shot all over the world, not just in America. It had many non-Americans working in it. To say it's American-made isn't fully accurate.

Back on topic, I'm not a fan of animee, but I would watch it if it happened. I personally would rather see live action, because I can take it more seriously than anything animated, but a 3D animation sounds rather interesting. Looking forward to more news about this.

[smudger9]

I thought it was supposed to be CGI... like Pixar productions.

[Ithorian guy]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Apr 21 2006, 01:27 PM
um.....I don't think we need to bring cultures into all of this. Star Wars is popular world wide. This board has people from all four hemispheres, if I'm not mistaken, not just America. In fact, SW was shot all over the world, not just in America. It had many non-Americans working in it. To say it's American-made isn't fully accurate.

Back on topic, I'm not a fan of animee, but I would watch it if it happened. I personally would rather see live action, because I can take it more seriously than anything animated, but a 3D animation sounds rather interesting. Looking forward to more news about this.
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I agree with you, but Star Wars was basically supposed to be a space-aged western back before the prequels came out. But I also understand that the Jedi were originally based on the samuri and the ep.4 plot was based on an old jappanese film (The Hidden Fortress?).

So sorry I acted a bit harsh in that last post.

[bendu]

Last I heard they were going for an CG anime style. Have any of you seen Final Flight of the Osiris from the Animatrix? Or Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within movie? That's CG Anime. That animation is amazing and most of the arguments I've heard against anime are superficial at best. Anime does not inherently have swearing, that involves writing. Anime does not inherently involve violence and gore, that's directing. Anime also comes in its own substyles. Now if the show was going to be Pokemon style anime I would poop out a kitten. But Star Wars is about amazing visuals so why not use one of the styles conducive with that?

I think that CG animation like we've seen in the aforementioned things would be perfect for Star Wars.

[Lord Yama]

I would like to see a 2h anmation film with SW Clone Wars..... :happydance:

[Leto Aldriss]

CG animation. Hopefully it will be of the sort visually comparable to Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which despite having a crappy plot was visually astounding.

Roughnecks: the Starship Troopers Chronicles
That I liked more than the movie...

Storywise.

[Enfilade]

They said it's 3-D. It's probably going to be anime INFLUENCED, stylistically, just how the first Clone Wars cartoon looks, stylistically, like Samurai Jack. That doesn't mean it's going to BE anime, or attempt to be anime.

I'm really excited. I hope Shaak Ti, General Grievous, Aayla and the REpublic Commandos are in it.

[Vesper]

Being developed in Singapore eh?

That explains how they 'will do what would typically cost $20 million, for $1 million'

[Lucas P]

I have to admit that I somewhat liked the Clone Wars TV show, but am not a fan of the Samurai Jack animation style. The episodes were also rediculously short and focussed too much, in my opinion, on overly lengthy and repetitive action sequences.

I will say that I am looking forward to the new 3D animated series. I do hope that they do not cartoonify it , but instead try to present a polished 'realistic' interpretation reminiscent of the animation style (as mentioned by many others) as Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, The Last Flight of the Osiris and Final Fantasy: Advent Children...how interesting that they are all made by the same company... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Anyway, I am eagerly looking forward to additional news on this series, as well as the Live Action show currently in development.

Kind regards,
Lucas

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I can not wait to see this!!!!

[Xanatos]

I would love to see a star wars animation cgi, like ff7 advant children. Also I would like to see a cartoon one as well. I will be recording them untill they come out with seasons.

[Master Magnus]

I read elsewhere that Anthony Daniels confirmed on his site a few weeks ago that he'll do the voice-over for C-3PO in the new 3D Clone Wars series. That's great news!

[Darth Octavious]

Very great

[Cydon]

This abomination that passes as Star Wars is a embarrasment.

*Standing by for bashing.*

[smudger9]

This abomination that passes as Star Wars is a embarrasment.

*Standing by for bashing.*

Because of your statement or your poor grammar???

[techno-union]

This abomination that passes as Star Wars is a embarrasment.

*Standing by for bashing.*

This new series is going to be different from the cartoon network series, which by the way I thought was great. From what I understand it will be CG animation and is currently in production to be released in late in 2007.

[Cydon]

Because of your statement or your poor grammar???


Both.

[DarthSolo]

Eh, I'm skeptical. I was pained to watch the Clone Wars cartoons. But this series I can take more seriously, hopefully.

[Master Magnus]

CNN has an article about the upcoming CG Clone Wars TV show and an interview with George Lucas talking about it: CNN: Lucas readies 'Clone Wars' for TV (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/10/05/people.lucas.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories)

[DarthSolo]

Did we already know that it would have Anakin and Obi-Wan? BLECH!!! Why not develop other characters? Especially when you can't get the voices right! BLECH!!!

[Cydon]

I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons I hate this series.

[Master Magnus]

Well, tastes are different. I'm pleased that the central characters are being further developed and that their involvement in the Clone Wars is fleshed out.

[smudger9]

Well, tastes are different. I'm pleased that the central characters are being further developed and that their involvement in the Clone Wars is fleshed out.

I agree.... lots of main charater involvement plus a few new characters would be ideal, paticularly Jedi and it would be nice to perhaps see another saber-yeilding villain in the same vain as ventress. Plus the voices in the last clone wars series were fine. I had no problem with them.

[Brian]

I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons I hate this series.
You already "hate this series" and it's not even out?

[Cydon]

Not the NEW one, the OLD one.

[Brian]

I see. My bad.

[Cydon]

Ahhh forget about it.

[techno-union]

I agree.... lots of main charater involvement plus a few new characters would be ideal, paticularly Jedi and it would be nice to perhaps see another saber-yeilding villain in the same vain as ventress. Plus the voices in the last clone wars series were fine. I had no problem with them.

I'd like to see Ventress back, I dunno if you read the book Yoda: DR but her character was fleshed out really well, I hope they use is it a guide to her characterization.

We should have a full compliment of villans, Dooku, Durge, Ventress, Grevious. It wil be interesting to see if the use Sora Bulq or Skorr (Jedi that left the order to join Dooku after Geonosis), who have only made appearances in the Comics.

[DarthSolo]

I have a feeling this is going to throw an unnecesarry wrench into continuity, simply because if GL is writing the stories, he's not the greatest on keeping little details straight. Also, he probably won't pay excessive amounts of attention to the material already out there. It could prove to be very annoying.

[Master Magnus]

I have a feeling this is going to throw an unnecesarry wrench into continuity, simply because if GL is writing the stories, he's not the greatest on keeping little details straight. Also, he probably won't pay excessive amounts of attention to the material already out there. It could prove to be very annoying.
Hrm, George Lucas is the one who created Star Wars in the first place. I think we should give him a little more credit than that (and the "material already out there" doesn't cover everything and I'm very interested in his vision of the Clone Wars compared with that of some EU authors out there).

[DarthSolo]

Indeed there are areas that have not been covered, but there are a significant amount of books and comics that take place during that three year span, as well as a cartoon show (which already stirred things up a bit). While the Clone Wars was a huge thing, three years is not a huge amount of time. So, we shall see. But yes, I'm interested in his vision of it too.

[Cydon]

How do I feel he's going to be the death of me?

[General Grievous]

Indeed there are areas that have not been covered, but there are a significant amount of books and comics that take place during that three year span, as well as a cartoon show (which already stirred things up a bit). While the Clone Wars was a huge thing, three years is not a huge amount of time. So, we shall see. But yes, I'm interested in his vision of it too.

yeah, it's definitely gonna be interested... I mean, if GL screws up, no one's gonna believe in him anymore... (even though some people disliked the prequels, many people actually liked them, like me.)

I guess Lucas's gonna be very careful with this show... one thing that gives me hope is that he's not gonna do it on his own =)

[DarthSolo]

My biggest worry is that it will tamper with previous EU materiel, not the movies. I have enough faith that he won't screw up movie continuity too bad (he didn't do terribly with the PT, i enjoyed it, but would like to improve upon it), but I dunno about the books and comics. That's a lot of material, and is he going to pay attention to whomever is his continuity expert? Will he hire one?

[General Grievous]

I don't think GL has a continuity expert or someone like that... and I also doubt that he has read every EU publication, so I'm kinda worried about what he could do... >.> about the movies.. yeah, I guess he could do a good job, similar to what he did with the prequels

[larissa]

I hope this screws the EU.

& i hope Ventress stays dead - how many times does Anakin have to kill her?

[DarthSolo]

Uh, why?

And, none. Anakin knocked her off something tall both times. And Force-users can oftentimes pad their landings. She survived, barely, both times, and disappeared.

[eddie]

Luckily, Ventress is still alive (as she last commandeered a spaceship and flew off 'into the horizon', and I have a feeling we will be seeing her back...

Regarding the new series' impact in the EU, I do not fear this as the timeperiod is not nearly as full as the years following ANH. Besides, we have some very-abled people to prevent GL from '' screwing up' the EU (i.e. Dan Wallace, Pablo Hidalgo, Leland Chee, Karen Traviss)... I cannot wait to see this new series!!!

[TuskenRaider1]

It is the melding of Lucasfilms and Lucasarts vision and that of the EU authors they allow to share in creating that vision that makes the EU so intriguing. There have been times the EU has influenced the fan base and time that Lucas Films has overrode the interpretation of the EU writers. As many have stated from Lucas Films, including the main man himself, if the EU and the movies directly contradict, the movies are the true interpretation, but if they do not directly contradict, (ie cover the exact same event) than they compliment cannon.

The Clone Wars were a very intense and lengthy period that covered a number of years. There are plenty of stories to be told, and Im sure the Animated series will compliment those told in Ep II and III and the comics, books and cartoons that have looked into that era as well. I have faith in Lucas films to manage their product.

[Darth Darthy]

I never understood the huge EU fan base that evolved from Star Wars. To me it was always made clear that these were fun little diversions to delve into while we awaited the next movie. The following video is an interveiw with Lucas on a red carpet. The subject of bringing the books (i.e EU) to life is dismissed outright and almost with a laugh by Lucas. They are cash cows and have nothing to do with influencing his choices or the cannon of the Star Wars Galaxy.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=495&Itemid=99.

[eddie]

But to some of us the movies are just not enough (after thirty years). We just want more and new adventures of our favorite heroes (and the EU provides us with just that, regardless if GL considers it a milk-cow...) :bigsmile:

[DarthSolo]

Darthy, I don't think many people ever realistically thought Lucas would bring the books to "life". I don't even think in this series anyone is expecting that.

As for the books, no matter what Lucas says, they fit in with the continuity, though they are a lower level of cannon. There's no reason to ruin that. It wouldn't be that difficult, either. But, I've a feeling that the few but necesarry steps won't be taken, and the SW continuity will be smudged more than it has been with the PT simply because Lucas got lazy.

[TuskenRaider1]

The books expand on Lucas's story. They are able to explore the detail broadly defined by Lucas, and allow the fan base to look at smaller plot points glossed over in the films. they dont supplant the films, they add to them. And honestly, we never expect lucas to give us story out of the goodness of his heart. If he makes a profit, so what, he allows us all to further enjoy his work, and shares that with others who want to contribute.

I for one, enjoy the extra works, and dont mind forking over some of my hard earned cash for it. If i choose to drop 7 bucks on a good SW book rather than another piece of hollywood garbage or a retread of an old tv show than so be it. Personally, Im just glad I can keep my interest in SW alive.

[Adamwankenobi]

I never understood the huge EU fan base that evolved from Star Wars. To me it was always made clear that these were fun little diversions to delve into while we awaited the next movie. The following video is an interveiw with Lucas on a red carpet. The subject of bringing the books (i.e EU) to life is dismissed outright and almost with a laugh by Lucas. They are cash cows and have nothing to do with influencing his choices or the cannon of the Star Wars Galaxy.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=495&Itemid=99.

Remember though, in the interview, he said "Books are books, films are films." He simply looks at them as two different things.

[bendu]

Remember though, in the interview, he said "Books are books, films are films." He simply looks at them as two different things.


You're actually quite right. George Lucas understands the difference in the mediums. I have listened to an interview with Matthew Stover who wrote the novelization for ROTS and he said in his conversations with George that they discussed how dialogue and things shouldn't be exactly the same because each medium has different methods to present it.

In a film you have actors who can convey a lot of the emotions without actual words, whereas in a novel sometimes dialogue must be lengthier in order to bring forward the emotions for the reader. That sort of thing.

Anyway, I'm off topic.

I'm waiting for the show to make my judgements. I have faith that it will be a success.

[techno-union]

Star Wars continuity is already as messy as a dogs breakfast, so I;m willing to sacrfice if it means a good show.

I have read that this series will be set when Anakin is a Jedi Knight, so that gives it about a 6 month time frame to work in. In that time Anakin and Obi Wan appear in the 'Dreadnaughts of Rendilli' story line and in the 'Obsession' series. So theres pleny of time for things to happen. I'm guessing we'll see about 3 to 5 series in all until they get the live action show off the ground.

[Master Magnus]

This hasn't been posted, but in this MTV interview (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1542612/story.jhtml) from October, George Lucas stated that some episodes of the animation series are finished (and a few goodies on the live-action series as well).

[Morridini]

So has there been any confirmations on wether or not this will overwrite the two Clone Wars seasons? Or will the story fit in among it all?

[bluemilk]

Darthy, I don't think many people ever realistically thought Lucas would bring the books to "life". I don't even think in this series anyone is expecting that.

As for the books, no matter what Lucas says, they fit in with the continuity, though they are a lower level of cannon. There's no reason to ruin that. It wouldn't be that difficult, either. But, I've a feeling that the few but necesarry steps won't be taken, and the SW continuity will be smudged more than it has been with the PT simply because Lucas got lazy.

exactly. Give respect to the fans who have spent a lot of years and a lot of money investing in the EU. Perhaps if there were only the Thrawn trilogy and materials preceeding it wouldn't be a big deal to mess with the continuity. Now, however, the EU is expansive and well documented and it would be a slap in the face to fans for George to just run roughshod over it.

[Master Magnus]

I'm a member of the EUDF, so I'll be going out on a limb here, but Star Wars IS after all George Lucas creation and I'm thrilled to see more of his vision of the Clone Wars. Who else would be more qualified than the man who created the concept?

[eddie]

Any Lucasfilm-sanctioned vision is okay with me: the more (Clone Wars stories), the merrier... And I like the fact that Randy Stradley has been called over to Skywalker Ranch to converse with the head-writer of the new series (I hope to smooth out continuity-bits, but since Randy has been sworn to secrecy, we just have to wait it out)...

[DarthSolo]

I'm a member of the EUDF, so I'll be going out on a limb here, but Star Wars IS after all George Lucas creation and I'm thrilled to see more of his vision of the Clone Wars. Who else would be more qualified than the man who created the concept?

exactly. Give respect to the fans who have spent a lot of years and a lot of money investing in the EU. Perhaps if there were only the Thrawn trilogy and materials preceeding it wouldn't be a big deal to mess with the continuity. Now, however, the EU is expansive and well documented and it would be a slap in the face to fans for George to just run roughshod over it.

I agree with you both. MM, I'm excited to see GL's vision, too. But I am still skeptical. I am just hoping that proper research is put in by GL's advisors to make sure he doesn't completely contradict things that are already established. This is very easily done. There are plenty of people like Pablo Hidalgo and the guy who runs the Holocron (name evading me currently) who are already on GL's payroll, or you could hire any of the EU fans on this or any board to do the job. It's just a matter of a little bit of extra effort. Let's cross our fingers.

[Master Magnus]

I agree with you both. MM, I'm excited to see GL's vision, too. But I am still skeptical. I am just hoping that proper research is put in by GL's advisors to make sure he doesn't completely contradict things that are already established. This is very easily done. There are plenty of people like Pablo Hidalgo and the guy who runs the Holocron (name evading me currently) who are already on GL's payroll, or you could hire any of the EU fans on this or any board to do the job. It's just a matter of a little bit of extra effort. Let's cross our fingers.
Yes, but GL isn't bound by the EU. The EU is, as Leland Chee (:wink:) has said, dependent on GL's vision of Star Wars. In any case, I'm not particularly worried and I don't think we'll see much that will contradict the EU (in one case, I DO hope that will conclusively happen).

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Yes, but GL isn't bound by the EU. The EU is, as Leland Chee (:wink:) has said, dependent on GL's vision of Star Wars. In any case, I'm not particularly worried and I don't think we'll see much that will contradict the EU (in one case, I DO hope that will conclusively happen).

What's that one case Magnus?

[Master Magnus]

What's that one case Magnus?
I promise I'll let you know once it starts to air.:nahnah:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

OK, cool. Thanks mate. :bigsmile:

[empire21]

15 episodes in production and 2 episodes almost completed, play the second interview with Rob Coleman to hear.

http://www.mintinbox.net/reportages/Imagina_2007-Interview_Rob_Coleman

[Master Magnus]

15 episodes in production and 2 episodes almost completed, play the second interview with Rob Coleman to hear.

http://www.mintinbox.net/reportages/Imagina_2007-Interview_Rob_Coleman
Yeah, I saw that a couple of days ago. Among other things he said that we can't expect to see anything before the end of the year.

[empire21]

Thats cool, I don't mind waiting if it means best possible quality.

[Master Magnus]

Thats cool, I don't mind waiting if it means best possible quality.
Yeah, but I was expecting something for Celebration IV...

[empire21]

You never know, we might get a clip or two. I'm sure they're just as eager to show it off as we are to see it.

[Kapit]

^ if they have as much done as they say they do, i'm sure they'll bring it to C4 and surprise everyone with it, otherwise interest may fade...especially because it's going to be 3D, some people may be skeptical as to how it'll turn out

[empire21]

Exactly, finished or not I can't imagine them not showing something for such an event.

[Darth Octavious]

If the 3D animation is going to look like the next-gen game, I will be satisfied.

[Kapit]

If the 3D animation is going to look like the next-gen game, I will be satisfied.


do you mean more realistic as opposed to cartoony?

[Morridini]

What have they actualy said about the 3D in this movie?

Is it Toy Story 3D or Final Fantasy 3D (yeah I know they say its brand new, but what I mean is realistic or non-realistic?)?

[Master Magnus]

Well, TFN had a link to this site (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/003443978.cfm) which may offer the first glimpse of 3D Yoda from the series...

[empire21]

I like the look of the Live Action tv series banner better. :w00t:

[Morridini]

If that Yoda pic is anything to go by then I am very dissapointed.

[empire21]

Agreed, but it might not be finished yet, at least I hope it isn't a finished product.

[Kapit]

keeping close to the original style, i dig it!

it's already been stated that they're continuing off the previous series, so why would they go and change styles midstream? and besides, this gives the new Animation division a chance to shine. There's a ton of possiblities for this show in 3D, and as far as I'm concerned, it looks awesome. Rock on, Lucasfilm Animation

[Kapit]

I like the look of the Live Action tv series banner better. :w00t:



EDIT: Ahhhh, Boba Fett....well if that's not a teaser, I don't know what is

[DarthSolo]

W00000000000000T! Yoda looks awesome! And...Boba....Fett......*salivates*

[empire21]

EDIT: Ahhhh, Boba Fett....well if that's not a teaser, I don't know what is

The only bad thing about it is we have to wait until 2009. :ugh:

[Kapit]

The only bad thing about it is we have to wait until 2009. :ugh:




that does suck, but (to keep on topic :P ) we are getting Clone Wars in 08!

that pic of yoda has me psyched, especially if that's how the whole show is going to look. that's one of the wonders of 3D, you can have these really stylized characters and stuff, and throw in some crazy lighting, and it just makes them look so much more amazing!

[P-Ray]

Here's a link to a bigger pic plus it's on StarWars.com now!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31566

[Master Magnus]

George Lucas said quite a few interesting things in this video interview (http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_xevidmegafx&Itemid=139&func=detail&id=259) which TFN linked to. Among other things he mentioned is the name of a female Padawan which will be seen in the animated series and that there'll be "over a hundred" episodes...

[DarthSolo]

He said between Eps I and II. Think that's a misspeak? Because the Clone Wars hadn't started yet...

[Frendon]

Yeah, he meant II and III.

[bendu]

It would be neat if they did begin the show between I and II, just a little while before II so they could cover more buildup to the war. But it's not necessary for the show to be good. Just an interesting idea.

[P-Ray]

Teaser poster!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=20493

[empire21]

Very cool!

Good find, P-Ray! :thumbs-up:

[Morridini]

Not too hard to find, considering it was posted on www.starwars.com 2 days ago.

Anyhow, cool poster. Start to look forward to this series. Is it due this fall or the fall 08?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Sweet! :w00t:

[Kapit]

I'm diggin' this show even more now!

[P-Ray]

Not too hard to find, considering it was posted on www.starwars.com (http://www.starwars.com) 2 days ago.

Anyhow, cool poster. Start to look forward to this series. Is it due this fall or the fall 08?
You could have posted it then for us.

[Morridini]

I forgot, posted it on my other SW forum and forgot this one. Sorry.

[Master Magnus]

I also noticed it on the OS and I also forgot about it. It's human.

[empire21]

Clone Wars Trailer!!! :w00t:


http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000478.html

[Salacious Crumb]

Clone Wars Trailer!!!


http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000478.html

Just WOW! :w00t: That was fantastic! Thank you very much for posting that boss man! :wtg:

The lighting alone, blew me away! that is going to look superb in HD! :happydance:

I'm glad it is nothing like the fan-made trailer that was posted on AICN. Did you see it? It was entitled: STAR WARS ANIMATED: TALES OF THE NEW REPUBLIC Teaser Trailer !

Check out the Clone Troopers :blink:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Wow, I was blown away, that looks awesome! :w00t::happydance:

[empire21]

Sure does, I was worried it was gonna look like crap, but damn, that's not the case. :yeah:

[smudger9]

Holy s*!t this looks fantastic. The trailer just blew me away. I'm up to about 10 viewings already.

I really like the look of the footage, some of it looks pretty realistic. There are some shots that look like a bad computer game but I assume that these are unfinished. Obi-Wan looks a bit strange, as do Anakin, Padme and Dooku, but I think its just a case of getting used to the animation style, as with the clone wars cartoon. However, the non-human characters are spot on. The quality of the sound is fantastic and the voices are pretty good, especially Ventress and Grievous and Anakin's voice is much better than the cartoon.

The clones look awesome. I love the "here they come" cry ..... I found that quite chilling. Hopefully there will be a lot of action from the clones point of view.

Asajj looks bad ass and I love that she is using the joined lightsaber. I hope she is a major player in this series. Love the force choke and the Vader-style pistol snatch.

Looks like Plo Koon is gonna feature regularly. I really hope so as he was under-used in the films. One thing I noticed is that in a couple of shots he has a human officer with him... a republic commander/officer???. Thats one thing we never saw in ROTS, which surprised me as they would be the precursors of the imperial commanders.
I hope we see a lot of the other secondary Jedi, and maybe a few new ones. I was dissapointed that there was no Quinlan Vos.

The Anakin-STAP action scene looks very well animated. Did anyone else notice that whatever is manning the second STAP appears to ignite two blue lightsabers before getting taken out?? Not sure who that was.

I'm liking the Grevious action and he comes off as being more intimidating and evil than in ROTS. His animation is superb, almost to the same level as ROTS and they are using the same voice, which is great. I hope they expand more on his character in this series. I dont liekt he cowardly character that was portrayed in ROTS. I also want to see some Grevious jedi killing.

I Love the idea of another Anakin-Dooku duel and, of course, Anakin getting his ass handed to him. I hope the battle incoroporates more of Dooku trying to turn Anakin to the dark side.

We appear to get a glimpse of some death star-style laser technology. Not quite sure what this is but it could be a good sub-plot. Its taking out a republic cruiser.... could this be the battle of Coruscant??? The animation here looks a bit shoddy, hopefully its a work in progress shot.

I cannot wait for this thing to start. Hopefully we will get some more info soon, such as how many episodes and over what period the series will cover. I really hope its from the battle of Geonosis right upto and including the battles from ROTS. The shots shown indicate quite a wide time frame. The clones shown have phase 1 armour and the scene with the AT-TE looks like the battle of Geonosis, suggesting the start of the war but a couple of the space scenes look like they could be the Battle of Coruscant and have ROTS jedi starfighters, suggesting the end of the war, so it could span the whole war. I really Hope it does and I'd like to see some Kashyyyk action, there wasnt nearly enough in ROTS.
Bring on 2008!!!!!! :happydance::happydance::happydance::happydance:

[Kapit]

OMG my mind has been BLOWN AWAY!

love it already.

[Morridini]

Fantastic, please don't screw it up Lucas!

[empire21]

We appear to get a glimpse of some death star-style laser technology. Not quite sure what this is but it could be a good sub-plot. Its taking out a republic cruiser.... could this be the battle of Coruscant??? The animation here looks a bit shoddy, hopefully its a work in progress shot.


I noticed that right away, kinda jumped out at me and got me really excited for this, I just hope it does have something to do with the Death Star.

[Darth Octavious]

That would be cool Rolla, Death Star thing. Like everyone else, WOW. I agree with smudger9, Anakin and Padme don't look like there canon counterparts as much.

But anyway, it Must-See-Tee-Vee!

[Master Magnus]

That would be cool Rolla, Death Star thing. Like everyone else, WOW. I agree with smudger9, Anakin and Padme don't look like there canon counterparts as much.

But anyway, it Must-See-Tee-Vee!
It appears as if they wanted to keep the feel from the first series. All in all, pretty cool. The CG itself wasn't very impressive, but it looks nice.

[Darth Octavious]

The CG wasn't impressive? Tell me how and what can be done better?

[Master Magnus]

The CG wasn't impressive? Tell me how and what can be done better?
It could be the smallness of the video, but the visual style was far too video gameish and the blend with more realistic CG and the cartoon style characters didn't sit that very well with me. It's awesome, but...
The most important thing however is that it should feel like Star Wars and that the trailer did. It breathed Star Wars so I'm not the least bit worried.

[empire21]

That would be cool Rolla, Death Star thing. Like everyone else, WOW. I agree with smudger9, Anakin and Padme don't look like there canon counterparts as much.

But anyway, it Must-See-Tee-Vee!

LOL, sorry for the confusion Darth Octavious, but that was actually me, empire21. :P

And yes, this is Must-See-Tee-Vee! :)

[Miasmo]

Has a channel picked it up yet?

[empire21]

Good question! :scratchchin:

[Tovor]

I noticed that right away, kinda jumped out at me and got me really excited for this, I just hope it does have something to do with the Death Star.
Maybe it's a prototype cannon they built on a small scale to test it out. And it makes sense, because although Sidious recieved the Death Star plans from Dooku, it was the Geonosians who designed it so they still have the technology to do it.

[Tovor]

LOL, sorry for the confusion Darth Octavious, but that was actually me, empire21. :P

And yes, this is Must-See-Tee-Vee! :)
:lol:

[empire21]

Maybe it's a prototype cannon they built on a small scale to test it out. And it makes sense, because although Sidious recieved the Death Star plans from Dooku, it was the Geonosians who designed it so they still have the technology to do it.

That's a good point, I never thought of that. :thumbs-up:

[P-Ray]

Clone Wars Trailer!!! :w00t:


http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000478.html
Excuse my idiocy, but how do I get this thing to play?

I click on "go" to play traler and then it brings me to a place that I don't know where to click:banghead:

[empire21]

Have you updated your quicktime? I don't know much of this stuff, but the official site seems to favor quicktime.

[Tovor]

You'll need Adobe Flash Player 9, P-Ray. You can get it free from the Adobe site. Rolla was having the same trouble as you last night, until he downloaded 9.

[P-Ray]

^Thanx! I should have both but I'll try again.

[Kapit]

^Thanx! I should have both but I'll try again.



also, when you hit "Go," that's what you want. It takes you to a Flash video player. Just wait a minute and the video will start playing

[P-Ray]

also, when you hit "Go," that's what you want. It takes you to a Flash video player. Just wait a minute and the video will start playing
It's not working for me!

It brings me to a screen that on the left is a blank box and on the right is a box that says make a selection.

When I click on either, nothing happens.

[empire21]

Watch it here, P-Ray!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An8eXmaejgs&mode=related&search=

[Morridini]

When exactly is this show going to air?
I often hear people say it will be in 2008 (forums, IMDB etc), however from interviews etc I have heard it will be Fall 2007 and that several episodes are already finished. So do anyone have any sources to back up either Fall 2007 or 2008?

[IndianaJim]

They have to find a home first. I can't imagine networks aren't clamoring for this, but you never know.

[Kapit]

When exactly is this show going to air?
I often hear people say it will be in 2008 (forums, IMDB etc), however from interviews etc I have heard it will be Fall 2007 and that several episodes are already finished. So do anyone have any sources to back up either Fall 2007 or 2008?


LFL people keep saying 08 sometime, provided they can find a place to put it. On Conan O'Brien a couple weeks ago Lucas joked that it'd be hard to find a suitable place for a PG-13 animated series like this.

Don't expect anything this year. They may have a couple done now, but I'd think they'd need the whole season done before they start airing

[empire21]

Watch it here, P-Ray!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An8eXmaejgs&mode=related&search=


Nevermind, it's been removed by LFL. :rolleyes:

[empire21]

Found another, P-Ray!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8BHk-VP0CY

[Miasmo]

By slowing things down and making it visually a little closer to the films, I'm sure more fans will be able to accept it as a believable part of the saga.

[P-Ray]

Found another, P-Ray!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8BHk-VP0CY
:happydance:

Finally got to watch it! Thanx e21, you're the best!

[empire21]

Your welcome, buddy! :howdy:

[P-Ray]

Star Wars: The Clone Wars
A Long Time Ago, on a TV Set Far, Far Away … George Lucas has unveiled the first preview (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000478.html) of his upcoming 2009 animated TV series. And it's just as I figured. A CGI 'toon registering more emotions than Hayden Christensen.

movies.com

[empire21]

:lol:

[Tovor]

What's this? The Clone Wars show isn't coming around until 2009? Balls!

[Morridini]

Won't believe anything about release date before it is posted on www.starwars.com (http://www.starwars.com)

Meanwhile I am hoping for Fall 2007 but thinking 2008.

[RollaFett]

As far as finding a network willing to air a PG-13 'toon goes, well I fail to see how that would be difficult. What the hell is Lucas worried about?

[Kapit]

As far as finding a network willing to air a PG-13 'toon goes, well I fail to see how that would be difficult. What the hell is Lucas worried about?


money

[Master Magnus]

What's this? The Clone Wars show isn't coming around until 2009? Balls!
I think they got the year wrong.

[empire21]

What's this? The Clone Wars show isn't coming around until 2009? Balls!


First you steal Rolla's identity, now your stealing his words. :P

Anyway, I highly doubt it's 2009, 2008 sounds more like it.

[Tovor]

I think they got the year wrong.
I hope so.

First you steal Rolla's identity, now your stealing his words. :P

Anyway, I highly doubt it's 2009, 2008 sounds more like it.
Rollafett is my inspiration. :wink:

[RollaFett]

money

Well yeah, but I highly doubt that the content is going to be so graphic that networks and advertisers would stay away from it, do you?

[RollaFett]

Rollafett is my inspiration. :wink:

When we first met, I was but the learner...now I am the master.

[Kapit]

Well yeah, but I highly doubt that the content is going to be so graphic that networks and advertisers would stay away from it, do you?


nah, I just couldn't think of anything else to say, and I figured everyone on TV loves money because it's green and cushy and leaves a wonderful feeling on your hands after you play with it

[RollaFett]

nah, I just couldn't think of anything else to say

I don't quite know why, but that cracked me up. Perhaps just the sheer honesty of it.

[Kapit]

it's a laugh a line with kapit!

[RollaFett]

I'm stunned, and also highly disappointed, that this trailer hasn't generated more buzz on these boards! This is the next wave of Star Wars that we'll be getting folks! Get with it, get excited, and start talking about it, because that trailer kicked ass!!!!

[Miasmo]

I wasn't impressed with the cartoon, and this will probably only grab slightly more of my attention. I want live action.

Anyhoo, is it going in a half-hour time slot?

[Kapit]

yes, half hour, more mature than the previous incarnation, and I'm totally excited, but like a lot of other people I am unsure as to when this will take place in the timeline, cause it looks like it's somewhere in between Volume 2 and Ep3, even though Volume 2 leads into Ep3...

So right before Volume 2?

[Morridini]

Aww only 20 min long episodes? was kinda hoping for 42 min long episodes.

[P-Ray]

I'm stunned, and also highly disappointed, that this trailer hasn't generated more buzz on these boards! This is the next wave of Star Wars that we'll be getting folks! Get with it, get excited, and start talking about it, because that trailer kicked ass!!!!
Yeah, you're right! I was telling a buddy how awesome it looks last night. He is down at Star Wars weekends and still hadn't seen the trailer.

It's fantastic and it seems like more people would be going wild on how amazing this looks.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Things that I get really excited about normally let me down. So with this I am going to wait until I can actually watch the episodes and hopefully get blown away! :w00t: However, it does look great and I can't wait - but I don't want to jinx it!

[empire21]

I'll start getting excited when it starts to air, the idea of new SW once a week is just great. :yes:

[Kapit]

I love getting excited for things, that way, when they do good I can say "hey, I was there and excited before anyone else" but when it lets me down I look like a fool :lol:

[RollaFett]

I am unsure as to when this will take place in the timeline, cause it looks like it's somewhere in between Volume 2 and Ep3, even though Volume 2 leads into Ep3...

So right before Volume 2?

Yeah, I'd guess sometime between the two volumes as well?
Also, I wonder if this series is actually going to have a higher canon than the shorts, thus eliminating the need to worry about exactly when they take place. Just a thought.

[Kapit]

I hope not. Canon's messed up enough as-is, why keep confusing everyone some more?

[Darth Fool]

I'm stunned, and also highly disappointed, that this trailer hasn't generated more buzz on these boards! This is the next wave of Star Wars that we'll be getting folks! Get with it, get excited, and start talking about it, because that trailer kicked ass!!!!
I imagine a lot of people don't know about it. It didn't come through on the newsfeed, so unless people go the site each day for updates they'll miss it. I only learned about it when someone mentioned it on a different (non-Star Wars) board. But yes it looks great and if they tone down the Super Jedi stuff and add a bit more plot than was in the micro-series, it could be fantastic.

As for where it'll take place, I suspect it'll cover the whole of the Clone War, with people then asking "which episodes does the micro-series take place between".

[Darth_Corndog]

I was at the unveiling panel at C4. I have to tell you that I was less than impressed with what I saw. They were very short on firm details (aside from who is working on it and what they do..even if they couldn't show us what they do) but the target date IS fall 2008.

The good: The vehicles, backgrounds and ship battles look AWESOME.

The bad: They used the micro-series designs and turned them 3-D. The troppers and droids look great, the organics, look like the California Rasins.

The bad feelings I have about this: Though they were very careful not to come out and say it I have the feeling that they're going to re-do most of the Dark Horse comics and the micro-series.

I was just glad that they "...begged and pleaded with George to ALLOW us to see" a short trailer. The trailer was awesome, but it was only about two minutes long, in an hour-long panel. I have to say, if they hadn't shown it there would have probably been an... incident. Since about 90% of the q&a session contained answers like "we can't tell you that."

We shall see of course, but the fact that there is no network deal yet and we're talking STAR WARS which is the easiest to sell proerty on the planet makes me very nervous as to the series' overall quality. I might be wrong, I PRAY I'm wrong, but I'm refusing to get excited about this show untill I actually see some firm news.

[Hartter]

What do you mean re-do the Dark Horse/Micro Series?

[Master Magnus]

The Official Site has a two page article in which George Lucas's increasing involvement in the making of the Clone Wars 3D animation series is detailed:

StarWars.com: George Lucas Gets Involved (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/blogs/f20070831/index.html)

I'm glad to see that George Lucas has taken such an active role in the creation of the CW 3D series and that his vision of the Clone Wars and Star Wars as a whole seems to permeate the production.

[Morridini]

Nice find.

[P-Ray]

Just FYI, the most recent SW Insider has some good stuff on the upcoming 3D Clone Wars tv show!

[Tovor]

:w00t: :ok: x 878,936,071!!!

[RollaFett]

^ Can't argue with that assesement.

[Master Magnus]

^Me neither... I guess...

[Lord Tesla]

During my morning rounds, I found the story at this link:

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/news20080129.html

Bear in mind that it is a bit of a spoiler.

My thoughts: This is disturbing. I have a bad feeling about this.

I also think it's an obvious direction to take.

[Morridini]

Wow, that caught me completely off guard.

Never expected Anakin to have a Padawan

[IndianaJim]

So... which part is the bad part?

[Lord Tesla]

So... which part is the bad part?

The New Padawan. In relation to that particular master, she is going to cause the Qui-Gon effect: By being conspicuous through her absence later, through never being mentioned in the Cinematic Canon, she will cast continuity in a peculiar light, raise more questions than can be answered, and generally complicate that which is already more than sufficiently complicated (to say nothing of murky).

Furthermore, I see it as another indicator of GL/LFL fiddling the time line, expanding the duration of the Clone Wars in an attempt to reconcile Obi-Wan's advanced age in ANH with his apparent age in ROTS: To fit in this new angle of the story, it seems to me that the Clone Wars have to be extended beyond the current understanding of their duration.

And, aren't they doing this Padawan thing in another part of the EU already? It's getting to look a bit obvious, a bit hackneyed. And it also seems implausible, considering the indicated master, and that master's relations with the Council.

I think that covers it, at least in outline.

[Morridini]

And, aren't they doing this Padawan thing in another part of the EU already? It's getting to look a bit obvious, a bit hackneyed.


You're thinking of Vaders secret apprentice?

[Lord Tesla]

You're thinking of Vaders secret apprentice?

Precisely. And I believe that particular scenario is going to suffer from the same defects as that in the Animated Series. But it'll be a game where you can do cool Force stuff, so it won't seem as bad.

[DarthSolo]

I agree: Anakin having an apprentice is a bad move. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't fit within the time line, and it's just messing with stuff.

[Master Magnus]

Wow, that caught me completely off guard.

Never expected Anakin to have a Padawan
There was at least one spoiler report posted on the Internet to that effect (see here (http://blogs.starwars.com/guiguioh/6)) after George Lucas revealed that one of the new characters would be a padawan (and the name of that padawan) in the interview I linked to almost a year ago (Warning: Spoilers Post with link to interview (http://galacticsenate.com/showpost.php?p=839506&postcount=108)).

I agree: Anakin having an apprentice is a bad move. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't fit within the time line, and it's just messing with stuff.
Well, after all, considering George Lucas's heavy involvement in the project, it's also a reflection of his vision of the conflict and characters.

[RollaFett]

That does sound stupid. Is this supposed to be an official padawan appointed by the council, though, or just some random force-user that Anakin came across and started to train secretly?

[Lord Tesla]

Well, after all, considering George Lucas's heavy involvement in the project, it's also a reflection of his vision of the conflict and characters.

So is Greedo shooting first. (Or maybe we should say his latest version of his vision.) We all know how well that turned out...

[Lord Tesla]

That does sound stupid. Is this supposed to be an official padawan appointed by the council, though, or just some random force-user that Anakin came across and started to train secretly?

The short writeup at the Official Site gives the distinct impression it is an official Padawan. The Padawan title is used, becoming a Jedi is referenced. Things may change as additional details emerge, but, so far, I'd say, tentatively...yep.

[Morridini]

By looking at the picture she isn't that young, meaning Anakin can't have taken her as a small child (duh), so I'm guessing she is a leftover Padawan after her first Master was killed in the war.

[Master Magnus]

So is Greedo shooting first. (Or maybe we should say his latest version of his vision.) We all know how well that turned out...
I think you have to give Lucas more credit than that. They are, after all, his characters.

By looking at the picture she isn't that young, meaning Anakin can't have taken her as a small child (duh), so I'm guessing she is a leftover Padawan after her first Master was killed in the war.
That sounds very plausible.

[Lord Tesla]

I think you have to give Lucas more credit than that. They are, after all, his characters.

I give him a great deal of credit. His achievements are numerous and unmistakable, but he is not infallible. I could cite a fair number of blunders, but, in the realm of his characters, two syllables should suffice to illustrate my point: Jar Jar.

[Master Magnus]

I give him a great deal of credit. His achievements are numerous and unmistakable, but he is not infallible. I could cite a fair number of blunders, but, in the realm of his characters, two syllables should suffice to illustrate my point: Jar Jar.
This may come as a surprise, but not everyone agrees with your assessment of Jar Jar. While Jar Jar isn't one of the best characters that Lucas has created, but I think that the character not only served as a comic relief (a la Buster Keaton), but he also had a practical and deeper role. However, the fart jokes were unnecessary (I found Boss Nass more irritating myself).

Personally I find that the worst creative decision Lucas made with the prequels were the voices of the aliens. From the Neimodians to General Grievous, the voices are cartoony and 'stereotypical'.

[IndianaJim]

I don't know why they couldn't have used the voice of Grievous from the cartoon. It was much creepier. He was made out to be such an AMAZING villain, and then they chopped off his nuts.

Jar Jar is fine. Leave him alone.

What pisses me off about this, then, is that the CLONE WARS series is supposed to take place DURING THE CLONE WARS, which took place BETWEEN TWO AND THREE. But in Three, Windu says, "but we do not grant you the rank of master." At no time before his becoming Darth Vader did Anakin ever become a master.

<sigh>

And I go to such lengths to defend The Flanneled One.

[Morridini]

What pisses me off about this, then, is that the CLONE WARS series is supposed to take place DURING THE CLONE WARS, which took place BETWEEN TWO AND THREE. But in Three, Windu says, "but we do not grant you the rank of master." At no time before his becoming Darth Vader did Anakin ever become a master.

So, I assume you think Anakin is now a Jedi Master?

Well, if you think that one have to be a Master to get a Padawan, then remember TPM. Obi was a Padawan in TPM, and at the end of the movie it was sai dthat once he was elevated to Knight, he could take on Anakin as a Padawan. So there is nothing wrong with Anakin being a Knight and having a Padawan.

[IndianaJim]

"This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/anakinskywalker/)."

That came from them, with master capitalized. What would you conclude? I didn't read the tween I and II books, so I don't know if Anakin immediately started calling him Master or not. I would say their verbiage is the thing contributing to the confusion.

[Kapit]

Considering it is the Clone Wars, the ranks of the Jedi being decimated as they were, things had to be changed and modified in order to fit in the plan. Maybe What's Her Face and her master were on a mission with Obi and Anakin, the other Master dies, and maybe the Council appoints What's Her Face to tag along with Obi and Anakin as a Padawan of sorts.

I think things will be explained much better once the series comes out. I really have no problem with her being involved as a Padawan or whatever...I'm willing to wait and see how it plays out.

[Lord Tesla]

This may come as a surprise, but not everyone agrees with your assessment of Jar Jar.

1. No, I usually find it a surprise when anyone agrees with me. Doesn't mean much. One way or the other.

2. What is my assessment of Jar Jar, precisely? I don't think I gave it. But I shall do so now: Lucas' main blunder in regards to Jar Jar was over-use. Jar Jar was comic relief from which we soon needed relief, because he was overused. He became a distraction. And he was somewhat grating, intrinsically.


While Jar Jar isn't one of the best characters that Lucas has created, but I think that the character not only served as a comic relief (a la Buster Keaton), but he also had a practical and deeper role. However, the fart jokes were unnecessary (I found Boss Nass more irritating myself).

I think the comparison to Buster Keaton is a little strained, but he did in the end have a meaningful role to play in the Fall of the Republic (as the ultimate Useful Idiot), but that pay off was so long in coming, it seemed very close to being too little, too late. But I agree completely about the flatulence jokes.

Personally I find that the worst creative decision Lucas made with the prequels were the voices of the aliens. From the Neimodians to General Grievous, the voices are cartoony and 'stereotypical'.

I wasn't particularly moved by the voices one way or the other, but I did find it amusing that they made heads spin in the US media. Wasn't Gary Oldman supposed to provide the Grievous voice? He probably would have Grievous more memorable, but Grievous was so minor a force in the film, I didn't stop to ponder very much the quality of his voice.

[Morridini]

"This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/anakinskywalker/)."


That just means that Anakin is her Master, to a Padawan any Jedi not a Padawan is a Master.

[DarthSolo]

Or, at least, your specific master is referred to as "Master", even if only ranked a Knight.

[RollaFett]

"This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/anakinskywalker/)."

That came from them, with master capitalized. What would you conclude? I didn't read the tween I and II books, so I don't know if Anakin immediately started calling him Master or not. I would say their verbiage is the thing contributing to the confusion.


Just as the two above posts say, it's most likely due to her being a Padawan. Any Jedi in a senior position, especially one who is training her, is probably referred to as Master.
Remember the younglings that Anaking slaughtered? When he walks into that room, one of them exclaims, "Master Skywalker!"

[Kapit]

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Animated_Clone_Wars_Theatrical_Release_110151.asp

!!!!!!!!!

[Lord Tesla]

^Now that's interesting...

Hmmm. I have speculated before on computer animated theatrical episodes set after ROTJ: I wonder if this, if it comes to pass, could be the precursor to...7, 8 and 9?

[Master Magnus]

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Animated_Clone_Wars_Theatrical_Release_110151.asp

!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I remember reading about that a few months ago and that Lucasfilm said that it was one of the options but that no decision had been made. Looks like it's moving ahead...

Oh, and the kidnapping of Jabba's nephew Rotta the Hutt, how cool doesn't that sound? :cool:

[empire21]

^ I read that spoiler as Rolla the Hutt. :P

[RollaFett]

:rofl:

I think I may be in a little bit better shape, though.

[P-Ray]

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Animated_Clone_Wars_Theatrical_Release_110151.asp

!!!!!!!!!
Here's another link!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/35489

[JediBendu]

Here's another link!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/35489

being in the UK that's prabably the best news to ever get on a monday morning!!:w00t:

[Orandhite]

:drooly:

That is all.

[Tovor]

Sweet. :yeah:

[RollaFett]

That is cool...for the U.K. Damned Brits. ;)

[Jedi Master Harrison]

being in the UK that's prabably the best news to ever get on a monday morning!!:w00t:

*Hi-fives all the UK Senators* Do I sense another meet up?! :w00t: x so many I then :thud:

[Kapit]

Cartoon Network and TNT get "Clone Wars," feature film is confirmed, being released through Warner Brothers. Considering it's USA Today, I'm guessing the feature film will hit the States as well:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-02-11-clone-wars-main_N.htm?csp=34

[Lord Tesla]

Cartoon Network and TNT get "Clone Wars," feature film is confirmed, being released through Warner Brothers. Considering it's USA Today, I'm guessing the feature film will hit the States as well:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-02-11-clone-wars-main_N.htm?csp=34



Well, well--excellent news! I consider the theatrical release, and the quote of GL talking up telling more tales through animation, to be very encouraging.

A new prediction: This is, at least in part, a trial balloon. If it's successful, I am quite certain it will be followed, within five years, by the long-hoped-for Episodes VII, VIII and IX.

[Kapit]

More info on SW.com!

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/announcement.html#hljs

[Morridini]

Yey, SW and cinemas, now if just someone would ever consider resending OT on the cinemas as well then I would be happy.

Also, form a link inside the link JK posted: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/623.html

[Kapit]

Also, form a link inside the link JK posted: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/623.html

And that video has some BADASS footage

Anyone else notice that they totally ripped off the Legacy of the Force logo? :laughing:

[Morridini]

Anyone else had problems with those movies in FireFox?

Well saw it in IE.

Great web-doc, seems like I was right about Anakin's Padawan...
Also, what did you mean about the LotF logo?

[Kapit]

On the left shoulder of both Anakin and Obi-Wan's armor, they use the LOTF logo, for whatever reason

[empire21]

And that video has some BADASS footage

I don't know, Kapit. I would say some of that footage goes beyond badass. :w00t:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Well, well--excellent news! I consider the theatrical release, and the quote of GL talking up telling more tales through animation, to be very encouraging.

A new prediction: This is, at least in part, a trial balloon. If it's successful, I am quite certain it will be followed, within five years, by the long-hoped-for Episodes VII, VIII and IX.

Now, don't get me carried away! If only!

Yey, SW and cinemas, now if just someone would ever consider resending OT on the cinemas as well then I would be happy.

Also, form a link inside the link JK posted: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/623.html

I think I read somewhere about the OT possibly being re-released at the cinema. I think it was in relation to the advertising for the Clone Wars cartoon. Maybe that won't be the case now that the cartoon is hitting the cinema instead.

[Javen]

If it's successful, I am quite certain it will be followed, within five years, by the long-hoped-for Episodes VII, VIII and IX.
haha no

[Master Magnus]

Yey, SW and cinemas, now if just someone would ever consider resending OT on the cinemas as well then I would be happy.
A theatrical release! :omg: Can't wait! Bring it on!

Also, form a link inside the link JK posted: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/623.html
What a great documentary! And that footage was awesome! I also liked how Filoni (sp?) said that the series will be on an epic scale to show that an entire galaxy was involved in the Clone Wars. Hmm... I remember a certain female EU author who was adamant that the Clone Wars was a "small scale brushfire war".:nahnah:

[Morridini]

Just curious about something partly off-topic.

I remember downloading and listening to the first part of the RotS audio-version novelization ages ago, did the novel itself start about the narrator telling about "Kenobi and Skywalker" being famous names, kids playing as them etc etc? That's at least how the audio-version started and I wouldn't mind seeing normal civilians noticing the war in this series.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ Yes, the fact that they were seen as heroes via the holonet was mentioned in the novel.

[RollaFett]

w-o-w

Ahem...I meanWOW!!!!!!!

I must say, I'm thouroughly, and officially, pumped up for this! The footage looked absolutely incredible!
I'm definately going to be watching this on TNT when it airs because they have an HD channel, and I don't think Cartoon Network does.

[Lord Tesla]

Anyone else had problems with those movies in FireFox?

I didn't have any trouble viewing it; I did notice that I couldn't switch between tabs during the video.

Great web-doc, seems like I was right about Anakin's Padawan...

Not liking this Padawan, am I. Already a sidekick, Anakin had. Now there is another...

[Lord Tesla]

Now, don't get me carried away! If only!

I only call 'em like I see 'em, your reaction is your own. :yoda:

I've been predicting this since 2004. And now we're seeing a similar pattern of projects and experiments to those that preceded the Prequels. I don't think it's much of a stretch at all to make the prediction I did.

[RollaFett]

You do have a point, a precedent has definately been set. Back in the 90's, Lucas did the Young Indy series and it was mainly used as an experiment for developing digital technologies. Later still, he did the special editions of the OT and fiddled with CGI. All of which led to the prequels.
I'm not saying that Tesla's right, but there is no way I could easily dismiss such a thought. I sure don't think it's very far-fetched.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Let's just keep our thoughts in the here and now, where they belong! :nahnah: I'm really hopeful and you guys make valid points, but I just don't want to be disappointed.

[RollaFett]

You must do what you feel is right, of course. ;)

I hear you, though, and yes, perhaps it's too early to start really thinking about that possibility, especially when we've yet to even enjoy the TWO TV shows that are on the way.

[Master Magnus]

Anyone else had problems with those movies in FireFox?
Yes, the new Flash-player at StarWars.com is terrible.

[Lord Tesla]

Let's just keep our thoughts in the here and now, where they belong! :nahnah: I'm really hopeful and you guys make valid points, but I just don't want to be disappointed.

Wrong half of the quote: "Don't center on your anxiety, Obi-Wan." :yoda:

[Luvinna]

On the left shoulder of both Anakin and Obi-Wan's armor, they use the LOTF logo, for whatever reason
The reason is that the LOTF logo was taken from the Old Jedi Order symbol. You see it in ROTS in the war room, too.

[Kapit]

The reason is that the LOTF logo was taken from the Old Jedi Order symbol. You see it in ROTS in the war room, too.

No kidding! I never once noticed that before! Guess I'll have to pop in the DVD again.

Oh, btw, all my fellow theater employees are now dreading August :laughing:

[empire21]

I didn't have any trouble viewing it; I did notice that I couldn't switch between tabs during the video.

Same here.

[P-Ray]

Star Wars: The Clone Wars
May the Force Be Groovy George Lucas is combining a couple episodes (http://movies.go.com/moviesproxy/buzzbin?columnid=940220&CMP=ILC-Flash1#) of his new animated show to present as a feature film in theaters Aug. 15. This picture (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-02-11-clone-wars-main_N.htm) shows Anakin and his young padawan, Ahsoka. Seeing a young girl like that wielding a giant green glowing stick makes me nostalgic for the chicks I used to try to pick up back when I was a '90s club kid.


movies.com

[Tovor]

It is completely amazing to be able to say that there is a new Star Wars movie coming to theaters soon! :happydance:

[Tovor]

I have to say that I am completely against the concept of Anakin having a padawan. Assuming that this picks up right after AOTC, he was much too young, immature, and inexperienced as far as self control, to be placed with guiding a padawan, IMO. It's just wrong.

[Lord Tesla]

haha no

"Haha no"?

:scratchchin:

Tonto's cousin? Where does he come in?

[Lord Tesla]

I have to say that I am completely against the concept of Anakin having a padawan. Assuming that this picks up right after AOTC, he was much too young, immature, and inexperienced as far as self control, to be placed with guiding a padawan, IMO. It's just wrong.

I don't have a really good sense of the time-frame covered by the series, other than that it is, IIRC, the promo video on the Official Site, it ends immediately before Episode III.

At that time, at least according to Obi-Wan, the Council were close to making Anakin a full master: If that were the case, and not just Oldie von Moldie blowing smoke, then it's not inconceivable the Council were capable of seeing him as a suitable instructor.

However, I still don't like the idea, either. There's no precedent for this, nothing in anything before or after that indicates this happened or was going to happen. It strikes me as being an afterthought, and not a particularly deep one. Not a structural necessity, or an improvement to the original design, but a piece of random chrome stuck on, or a flashy hubcap... (Why I have automotive metaphors on the brain this morning, I don't know.)

And, I will reiterate, Anakin already had a perfectly good sidekick in Artoo.

[RollaFett]

Yeah. Even though I am greatly anticipating this series, the padawan angle is really out of left field. Of course, we really don't know how it's going to be explained in the actual show, but as of now, it sure doesn't seem to fit real well.

[Morridini]

Well to be fair, we don't know anything about their Padawan-Master relationship, she is a leftover Padawan, and Anakin is Anakin. Let's just wait and see how they do it.