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BillyMidKnight
03-07-2005, 05:42 AM
I read somewhere that there was some symbolism or meaning to the colors of Luke's clothes in the OT. Does anyone know what it means?

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Justin
03-07-2005, 05:47 AM
I don't think so. I'm sure you can find some symbolism there but I doubt any was intended, although in ROTJ his outfit is meant to symbolize his maturity and that he is finally a Jedi (although in the Prequels they decided to make the Jedi look like Obi-Wan from ANH).

I suppose you could say his white shirt in ANH is meant to symbolize innocence or whatever but I doubt that was the intent.

And of course they showed the black glove over his mechanical hand was meant to show that he was becoming like Vader, that was pretty blatant.

Other than that I don't think there is any hidden symbolism.

Cassus Fett
03-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Luke's Clothes in ROTJ were simular to Anakins, signifying the Darkside because of the dark colours.

Mothman
03-07-2005, 03:01 PM
I remember GL giving an interview years and years ago and this subject was covered. According to GL, color is very important to him and has meaning. If I recall correctly, the gist of what he was saying is that the coloring of Luke's costumes were getting darker and darker as the OT progressed, symbolizing his moving closer and closer to the dark side. From what GL was saying, it was all very intentional and not coincidental.

Kam Solusar
03-07-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Mothman@Mar 7 2005, 01:01 PM
I remember GL giving an interview years and years ago and this subject was covered. According to GL, color is very important to him and has meaning. If I recall correctly, the gist of what he was saying is that the coloring of Luke's costumes were getting darker and darker as the OT progressed, symbolizing his moving closer and closer to the dark side. From what GL was saying, it was all very intentional and not coincidental.
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Well, that makes everyones EU drawings and descriptions of Luke kinda funny, when you think about it. They always base Lukes dress from his RotJ stylings. You have to wonder if Luke would have "lightened up" any after that, clothing wise.

MANVERU
03-07-2005, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by KamSolusar+Mar 8 2005, 05:14 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KamSolusar @ Mar 8 2005, 05:14 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Mothman@Mar 7 2005, 01:01 PM
I remember GL giving an interview years and years ago and this subject was covered.* According to GL, color is very important to him and has meaning.* If I recall correctly, the gist of what he was saying is that the coloring of Luke's costumes were getting darker and darker as the OT progressed, symbolizing his moving closer and closer to the dark side.* From what GL was saying, it was all very intentional and not coincidental.
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Well, that makes everyones EU drawings and descriptions of Luke kinda funny, when you think about it. They always base Lukes dress from his RotJ stylings. You have to wonder if Luke would have "lightened up" any after that, clothing wise.
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Not really, In the later books it pictures lukes jedi robes still in a dark state, but when he recruits new padawans, they also where black, it also could symbolise the new jedi order.

fred2
03-07-2005, 08:57 PM
In ANH they purposely made his clothes simple, ill-fitting, and non-stylish in order to represent his childishness. This was meant to be made more apparent in the deleted scene with Biggs on Tatooine. Biggs is stylin' in the leather jacket, boots, and snazzy cape, while bragging about his departure from home. At the same time, Luke (while the same approximate age) looks frumpy and years younger as he lives vicariously through his mature friend. Luke thinks he going nowhere, and he basically dresses the part.

Now as far as what they meant to symbolize with Chewie's wardrobe, I can't help you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

Sargoth
03-08-2005, 12:59 PM
A quote from the man himself. (http://www.starwars.com/episode-vi/explore/classic/2000/09/classic20000911.html)...

Kam Solusar
03-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by SITH LORD@Mar 7 2005, 06:27 PM
Not really, In the later books it pictures lukes jedi robes still in a dark state, but when he recruits new padawans, they also where black, it also could symbolise the new jedi order.
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Oh, I know how they picture it, I was merely speculating off the continuity problems between Lucas and the EU.

Emperor Palpatine
03-13-2005, 02:55 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>In ANH they purposely made his clothes simple, ill-fitting, and non-stylish in order to represent his childishness. This was meant to be made more apparent in the deleted scene with Biggs on Tatooine. Biggs is stylin' in the leather jacket, boots, and snazzy cape, while bragging about his departure from home. At the same time, Luke (while the same approximate age) looks frumpy and years younger as he lives vicariously through his mature friend. Luke thinks he going nowhere, and he basically dresses the part.[/b][/quote]

There is definitely parallelism in both trilogies. Anakin initially wears light, tan garments as a child, and then progresses to dark, black robes by the time he is an adult, in a manner similar to Luke.

Daibutsusan73
03-13-2005, 05:33 AM
I've noticed that Lukes outfit in Jedi is nearly identical to Dooku's. Also, Obi-Wan's collar in ANH looks the same as Luke and Dooku's. This suggests to me, that it's the same outfit under those robes as well, only brown.

bubbha
03-17-2005, 12:38 PM
I've thought of this before. I always thought that the progression in color of Luke's clothing - white in ANH, grey in TESB and black in ROTJ - symbolized his increasing maturity, power and susceptibility to temptation by the Dark Side.

Dervish
03-31-2005, 09:09 PM
Someone explained Luke's post-RotJ black robes as being humble and not forgetting how close his father was to being completely consumed by the dark side. It was either speculation, or something quoted in EU.

Emperor Palpatine
03-31-2005, 11:16 PM
Do you think Lucas had these things in mind when creating the trilogy, or are these coincidences and oddities fan-based?

Erick Landrider
04-01-2005, 01:09 AM
Lucas has always had a fetish for symbols and such. Some people have gone so far as interpreting the three moons behind Anakin at the Tusken Camp as symbols for Padme, Shmi, and Leia. But this one is pretty simple. It's an eventual evolution of Luke's temptation towards the Dark Side.

mtilden
04-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Chancellor Palpatine@Apr 1 2005, 03:16 AM
Do you think Lucas had these things in mind when creating the trilogy, or are these coincidences and oddities fan-based?
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He puts an enormous degree of care and attention to the issue of color, so if the question is 'is the possible symbolism associated with the color in this scene intentional?' the answer is almost certainly 'yes'.

Mark Skywalker
04-09-2005, 09:02 PM
Luke looked Like a Badass with the Black suit & boots in (ROTJ) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

darth scourge
04-15-2005, 09:31 PM
i supposed if i lived on a desert id wear white garments as it is the best colour to wear.

trooper1138
04-15-2005, 10:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> Now as far as what they meant to symbolize with Chewie's wardrobe, I can't help you. [/b][/quote]

Chewie is a free spirit. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Lord Light
06-24-2005, 11:57 AM
I always wondered why they wore black! Both Luke and Anakin.

James William Alexander Atreides
06-24-2005, 01:34 PM
Yes, a latters resemblance to the former. Then again, black is a much more cooler color than biege brown. Not that I'm a fashion expert, mind you.

leiaorgana
06-27-2005, 02:16 AM
Again... what's with the clothes???

Dark and Red are the colors leaders use... (at least in psychology if I'm not wrong)...

James William Alexander Atreides
06-27-2005, 09:57 PM
That's true. You don't see too many leaders in bright colors.

Mark Skywalker
09-11-2005, 02:54 AM
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/bts/article/f20040224/img/pg2_01_bg.jpg

Luke looks better in Black. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yeah.gif

James
09-11-2005, 03:15 AM
Like father, like son...

cltkins
09-12-2005, 02:57 AM
always found lukes bespin fatigues interesting when i was a kid

OB1
06-05-2006, 02:26 PM
Nope,but if there are dark colours why should it presents dark side? :( :bye:

Jack Spencer Jr
06-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Mar 7 2005, 05:47 AM
I don't think so. I'm sure you can find some symbolism there but I doubt any was intended, although in ROTJ his outfit is meant to symbolize his maturity and that he is finally a Jedi (although in the Prequels they decided to make the Jedi look like Obi-Wan from ANH).
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God, that cracks me up. Who would have thought the official uniform for a Jedi Knight and a desert hermit would be the same thing?

Rabid Whiphid
06-12-2006, 03:05 AM
I remember reading years ago that when they designed Luke's black outfit, the idea was to do a costume in the style of Obi-Wan's from ANH (symbolizing the 'good father figure') but to color it black in the style of Vader (symbolizing the 'bad father figure').

...Thus punctuating the fact that in ROTJ, Luke's future hangs in the balance - where he could easily go on to become another Obi Wan (good, mature, accomplished Jedi Knight) or another Vader (evil Sith Lord).

The black outfit is without a doubt Luke's best costume, but as a kid my favorite Luke action figure was always the ESB Luke in the brown fatigues he wore on Bespin. I don't know why, I guess it was all those cool pockets or something!


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thepepgal
06-12-2006, 09:02 AM
I like Luke in the black. :love:

Darth Kitana
06-29-2006, 07:48 AM
I think Luke's dark robes in ROTJ foreshadow his fall to the darkside when he deafeats Vader, but when he says 'I am a Jedi, like my father before me' this juxtaposes with what he is wearing and what he has done.

Solo
01-05-2007, 08:44 AM
I remember watching Muppet Show's special Star Wars episode. Everybody who saw Luke was first asking him.

"Hey, I love your outfit. Who is your tailor?"

That was pretty amusing.