Second Death Star Survivors

[CorruptedSenator]

Ok, so we all know that Luke escaped from the destruction of the second death star, as well as the late Darth Vader of course. But were there any other survivors that had been on board the death star at the time of its demise??

I have a feeling that there were, and my star wars knowledge just needs an upgrade...style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

Anyways correct me if I’m wrong.

[Master Magnus]

I'm not sure I've heard anything on this. Interesting question. Logically, some of the personnel that was seen in the DS II hangar bay should have survived (there was an Imperial officer and some crewers scrambling) as the hangar seemed empty when Luke left.

[Bandersnatch]

I've often wondered this myself. I also used to wonder what happened to all of the other Imperial ships after the battle. Did they just say "screw it" and fly away? And if so, where'd they go?

I guess an easy answer is that since the Emperor has been killed, they have no direction and can't really act on their own.

[Jedi_Poo]

What about those that were still on board, all those poor little innocent mouse droids style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif

[Cassus Fett]

Well the ones who escaped from the second Death Star proberly surrendered to the Rebel Fleet!

[Jedi_Poo]

Unless some of them tried to escape aboard some of the Imperial shuttles there, and more than likely were shot down by the Rebels surrounding the second Death Star.

[Cassus Fett]

Well i now what i would do if i was an imperial leaving the second death star.

Attack the nearest Rebel ship and take as many down with me as i could

[Sargoth]

Originally posted by Jedi_Master_Poo_Caca@Feb 21 2005, 12:46 PM
What about those that were still on board, all those poor little innocent mouse droids style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif
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And the poor innocent contractors! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[CorruptedSenator]

Now that I think about it I'm sure that if you look closely around the area of the death star right before it blows, you'll be able to catch a glimpse of some imperial ships on the run.... Speaking of which I wonder where the Emperors Guands ran off to??style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/royalguard.gif

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by Sargoth+Feb 21 2005, 11:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sargoth @ Feb 21 2005, 11:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jedi_Master_Poo_Caca@Feb 21 2005, 12:46 PM
What about those that were still on board, all those poor little innocent mouse droids style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif
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And the poor innocent contractors! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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And don't forget that GL said in the AOTC commentaries that the Geonosians would be the ones commissioned to build the Death Star style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif .

[smudger9]

Maybe it is explained in the EU...... not being an EU fan I dont know.

[empire21]

Originally posted by Jedi_Master_Poo_Caca@Feb 21 2005, 02:46 PM
What about those that were still on board, all those poor little innocent mouse droids style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif
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I remeber one Imperial soldier running with a mouse droid in his hands. At least that's one that was saved.

[Jedi_Poo]

Yeah!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Darth Star]

The survivors should get T-shirts that say: "I survived Death Star II".

[Sam Kenobi]

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[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Cassus Fett@Feb 21 2005, 04:35 PM
Well i now what i would do if i was an imperial leaving the second death star.

Attack the nearest Rebel ship and take as many down with me as i could
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I seriously doubt that was anywhere near what any escaping Imperials would be thinking about at the time, considering the circumstances...

[Senator_Ryno_Of_Bespin]

Originally posted by Sargoth+Feb 21 2005, 04:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sargoth @ Feb 21 2005, 04:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jedi_Master_Poo_Caca@Feb 21 2005, 12:46 PM
What about those that were still on board, all those poor little innocent mouse droids style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif
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And the poor innocent contractors! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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I still wanna know if they got payed anywas or not.

[Darth Holmes]

Originally posted by Bandersnatch@Feb 21 2005, 04:41 AM
I've often wondered this myself. I also used to wonder what happened to all of the other Imperial ships after the battle. Did they just say "screw it" and fly away? And if so, where'd they go?
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You also have to wonder what happened to the rest of the Imperial forces in the galaxy. I mean I don't think every single one was there for the battle of Endor.

I guess thats what the EU is for.

[empire21]

^yup.

[Iknis]

What if... the emperor escapes too? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohhlala.gif

[Tresk Im'nel]

Grand Admiral Teshik and Grand Admiral Takel both escaped. Beyond that, I don't know...

However, logic would dictate that there were quite a few others. Teshik is known to have been accompanied by at least one anonymous crewman when he escaped the DSII (ref: SWI #66). As Magnus pointed out, there must have been others...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What if... the emperor escapes too?[/b][/quote]

Well...if you've read Dark Empire...he does, from a certain point of view... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Iknis]

Do you really trust the books though? I never see the books as real stories style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[James William Alexander Atreides]

Why not? I do. The resurrected Emperor is considered Star Wars canon just like the rest of the novels. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[Emperor_Pestage]

According to EU, all of the Emperor's advisors escaped except for the two of them (I think their names are Sim Aloo and Janus Greejatus).

[Obi-Stu]

This is really a question for the EU boffs.

Come on then. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif


So the question must be how much of the imperial forces were onboard the death Star. (except for the crack squad on Endor.)

[Tresk Im'nel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you really trust the books though? I never see the books as real stories[/b][/quote]

In a word: Yes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif Lucasfilm's official position is that almost all of the books and comics are "real" Star Wars, although the films take precedence in the event of a contradiction. The official continuity hierarchy is divided into four levels:

-G-level: Film material and direct statements from George Lucas. Overrides all other material in the event of a conflict.

-C-level: Official Continuity material, includes almost all EU material and counts as "real" Star Wars.

-S-level: Supplemental continuity material. This is mostly used for older EU material that contains materials now contradicted by G-level or newer C-level material. Also computer and video games with variable endings or sequences in conflict with the films. This material is overridden by G- or C-level material in the event of conflict, but non-conflicting elements can be considered "real" SW within reason.

-N-level: Non-Continuity. This classification is reserved for deliberately satirical or "alternate universe" material such as Infinities and some stories in Tales prior to Issue 21. This may also apply to a few older EU stories that have been relegated to apocryphal status.

[Anguirus111]

I heard a rumor that in the theatrical run of ROTJ that the Rebel Fleet vanishes into hyperspace right before the credits. They were probably off to finish off the Empire I guess...

[Bandersnatch]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Jun 9 2005, 03:52 AM
I heard a rumor that in the theatrical run of ROTJ that the Rebel Fleet vanishes into hyperspace right before the credits. They were probably off to finish off the Empire I guess...
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Well, having seen the original theatrial run of ROTJ, I can tell you that no such thing occured.

I think it would be cool for Lucas to add just a couple of more shots in the ROTJ space battle of one or two more Star Destroyers blowing up. We see one disintegrate in the background out thru Admiral Ackbars window, and of course the Executor slams into the DS, but a few others getting wiped out by the DS explosion or something would make sense.

I still get this feeling at the end of "what about the other Imperial ships?" but it's no big deal.

[Tresk Im'nel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I still get this feeling at the end of "what about the other Imperial ships?" but it's no big deal[/b][/quote]

Captain Gilad Pellaeon of the Star Destroyer Chimaera ordered the surving ships to retreat. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

And of course that task force was only a tiny fraction of the Imperial Navy's total strength...

[James William Alexander Atreides]

Originally posted by Tresk Im'nel@Jun 9 2005, 07:33 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I still get this feeling at the end of "what about the other Imperial ships?" but it's no big deal

Captain Gilad Pellaeon of the Star Destroyer Chimaera ordered the surving ships to retreat. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

And of course that task force was only a tiny fraction of the Imperial Navy's total strength...
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Most of the fleet would fight amongst themselves until the creation of the Imperial Remnant.


Government: Imperial Remnant

Imperial Remnant Government

The remaining systems of the once mighty galactic empire are ruled now by a council of Moff's, who each have their sectors of influence within the Remnant. The military might of the still large Imperial Fleet lies in the hands of Admiral Pellaeon. Only few small connections tie the Imperial Remnant to the Chiss. With them, they share a part of their fleet and troops, to guarantee the protection of both Empires against the Vong. As liaison officer between the cultures functions Baron Soontir Fel, former Imperial Ace-Pilot in the 181st Tie-Fighter Squadron. And while he is the liaison, his son Jagged Fel is the price he has to pay, if he betrays the Chiss. Jagged trains and flies with Chiss pilots, as a guarantee for Soontir, that if he betrays the Chiss, they will revenge on his Son, but that will never happen.
The Government of the Remnant is located on Bastion, the new capital world. Here, since the peace treaty with the New Republic, Imperial politics take shapes. In the treaty, the Moff's had agreed to guarantee the essential rights of all beings. And so, the former imperial rule through fear and terror was no more. The Moff's decide on all things by vote. Every Moff has only 1 vote, and the law, etc. is official, if the majority of the Moff's agrees to it. But the Remnant is still far from democracy. There are guidelines for the government, but there is still an Imperial feeling within the people.


When the Invasion hit the Remnant, it was alreaedy too late to fight back. The Last stand of the Empire only worked with the help of the Jedi, and refugee fleets left for the Unknown Regions & Chiss Space hoping for asylum. The Remnant and the Moff council is no more than a group of refugees on distant worlds in the Unknown Regions, Bastion and major worlds fell. But when the galaxy unites for the first time, even Hapes, the surviving Hutt Clans and many others joining, the United Galactic Federation of Free Alliances is formed, and soon the Empire will join a united galaxy, to take the fight back to the Vong.

[Shadow_Almond]

i believe some imperial war lords escaped, like ysanni isard and a few others.

[bigscreensatellite]

assuming that some Stormtroopers survived the DSII... i.e. escaped on ships with some of the above mentioned names...

could the ones that were Clones (i.e. not recruits) be trusted (if they indeed did surrender), after all, it was they who were programmed or trained with order 66 to slay the Jedi

so any surviving clones from the Emperor's reign would potentially be a threat to the new regime...with who knows what sort of training or programming....

just a thought ...any ideas

[James William Alexander Atreides]

Originally posted by Shadow_Almond@Jun 10 2005, 03:02 PM
i believe some imperial war lords escaped, like ysanni isard and a few others.
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Yes, but they would eventually be defeated by the New Republic. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/victory.gif

[Darth Massacrus]

Known Death Star 2 survivors: Grand Vizier Sate Pestage, Imperial Advisor and Councillor Ars Dangor, Grand Admiral Miltin Takel, Grand Admiral Afsheen Makati, Grand Admiral Osvald Teshik, many TIE pilots, many crewers, many shuttle personnel, several officers, perhaps a few mouse droids, many Imperial Stormtroopers, Imperial Gunnery Corps personnel, presumably most non-essential personnel, Imperial Storm Commando Catpain Sarkli, most persons near an escape pod, Dark Side Acolyte and Emperors Hand Jeng Droga, Jedi Master Luke Skywalker, others

[silverbolt]

I heard a rumor that in the theatrical run of ROTJ that the Rebel Fleet vanishes into hyperspace right before the credits. They were probably off to finish off the Empire I guess...

even if that scene did happen your still wrong im afraid, the Rebels were running to Bakura to help against the Ssi-Ruuk, which happens hours after the defeat of the Empire at Endor, Vaders pyre wasnt even cold.

[Konig15]

Lest any of us forgets, the Remant triumphed in the end to establish a good Empire in the Legacy era.

[Darth Massacrus]

actually, the New Republic was reorganized as the Galactic Alliance during the Vong War...

but getting back to the Death Star 2 survivors....