Outbound Flight

[ron bond 007]

I can't wait for Zahn's new SW novel set between TPM & AOTC about the young Thrawn and the Outbound Flight Project and possibly the Yuuzhan Vong's first visit to the SW galaxy and hopefully we'll finally get to see the Unknown Regions and learn more about the Chiss and see the Chiss homeworld Csilla. The book will be set just before AOTC and will be out in 2006 after Episode III.

But why would a TPM-AOTC bridge novel be out in 2006. Why can't it be out in 2004? Will it tie in to Episode III somehow? I hope the book comes out in 2004.

[threeP0]

I never knew about this book, but I am glad you told me. I wish the book would come out earlier, but hey, Zahn is a great writer, let him take his time so he can produce another great book.

[cmulligan01]

Very little of the initial post is set in stone despite what Ron would believe in the lack of evidence.

For example there has been nothing said by anybody the least bit reliable about seeing the Chiss or their homeworld. There have been conflicting reports on when the book will be back place and his insistance that the book can or should come out in 2004 despite not a single person with reliable information saying it will shows his lack of respect for facts when they clash with his views.

[Chrono]

cmulligan01 is right. The only thing confirmed now is that the book will not be out until AFTER Episode III. Episode III is currently set to appear in 2005. That means that Zahn's newest book will come out sometime after that. As far as events, nothing has really been confirmed, other than Thrawn's destruction of the Outbound Flight Project. (see this post (http://www.JediNet.com/news/Story.asp?s=link&init=active&back=archive&fldr=Books%20and%20Comics&month=June&year=2002&id=14678,20020616,4170) at JN Literature)

The question I have to ask is this: If Zahn's next book doesn't come out for another three years, and after Episode III, and after the rest of the slowly degrading New Jedi Order, will there still be anyone left who cares?

[Nathan Butler]

Ah, but of what has been confirmed, we might be seeing yet another drastic shift in several major dates. If the OFP is now being set just before AOTC, then that's the THIRD dating given for the event, and all of the related events from C'Baoth's life will again end up being bumped around due to that blasted chapter in DFR.

For the record, the most recent change (in the NEGtC's timeline) puts it at 31 BSW4.

[Shoma Barad]

It is sooooo nice having someone who maintains a timeline on the boards to clear up continuity issues... lol... I love it!

As for Zahn writing a book about Thrawn, I can't wait.

The dating issue... when the books were written, we had no prequels to factor in for dates, so the problem of clashes is pretty much unavoidable... it's a shame that alot of them stick out like a sore thumb, but IF you can get past them, they still alll read okay.

Hey, if we just forget the Bounty Hunter Wars, COTJ, TCS, and Darksaber, we can shave off a few years an kinda make everything fit, can't we? :p

~~Shoma

[Nathan Butler]

That's just it, though. They've already cleared up the problem with the Prequel dates for the OFP, and done so remarkably well. To move them to close to AOTC would actually work worse.

[ron bond 007]

I didn't say we would see the Chiss and their homeworld. I said maybe. Since it will involve Thrawn and the OFP and according to what was mentioned about the OFP in The Hand of Thrawn books and The Essential Guide to Chronology the ship went through the Unknown Regions and then it was destroyed by Thrawn's task force. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to Zahn's new SW book as well as Tatooine Ghost and the rest of NJO. Roll on 2006!!!!

[Whuffa]

I love Zahn! I can't wait! I wonder how he'll handle the prequel era? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/alien.gif

[Arica]

My friend Luvinna told me that somewhere in this place someone was mocking and flamming Timothy Zahn well I have one thing to say about that.

Behold the eleventh commandment.
Thou shall not mock nor flame Timothy Zahn style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[QuigonWindu]

I hope it will somehow have Anakin and Obi-Wan meeting Thrawn that would be so cool.

[Jeianni]

Cool , but unlikely. But yeah, it would be really cool. I wonder wat Thrawn was like when he was younger. How he rose to power.

[Mann]

How old is thrawn? I always pictured him as like a late thirties early fourties guy. What, is he like 60 now? At least Zahn is wrting more about him. It's his character, and he can do what he likes.

He should write about Pelleon more. I always found him the most interesting Imperial next to Thrawn. All the other character's a stupid and less complex. Thrawn rules!

[ron bond 007]

I hope that in Zahn's next SW book that Obi-Wan and Anakin meet Thrawn as well. That would be fun.

[ron bond 007]

I hope Obi-Wan and Anakin will be major characters in Zahn's next book. I hope we learn about Thrawn's rise to power and possibly Paelleon when he was a young man.

[Mask of Ice]

Ban me if u can.

[Sam Kenobi]

What?!?

[Blizzard]

Originally posted by Mask of Ice@Sep 5 2004, 03:23 AM
Ban me if u can.
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Is that a dare? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

[Sam Kenobi]

I'd say so.

[Mask of Ice]

Just kidding, guys.
What did Lorana do to make the Survivors hate her so much?

[Luvinna]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What did Lorana do to make the Survivors hate her so much?[/b][/quote]
We don't know. I seem to remember one of the Survivor's saying something about the Jedi abandoning and betraying them. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif Hopefully it'll be explained in the book out in 2005.

[Mask of Ice]

They were surely mistaken, maybe Thrawn concocted some lie......

[Soontir Solo]

At the time of the Thrawn Trilogy I think Thrawn was at least 40, probably older than that though. Plus he is a Chiss and I get the feeling they usually age slower than humans, they I have no information to back that up.

[Mask of Ice]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Nature Boy Ric Flair

I luv TRIPLE H!!!

[Soontir Solo]

Right........

[Anguirus111]

I am looking forward to finding out what exactly happened to the OFP because so far it's still a mystery other than the fact Thrawn tore it to pieces.

[Soontir Solo]

Yah, well we know the basics because of Mara's meeting with with Admiral Parck and General Fel on Nirauan but it will be good to get the first hand Thrawn perspective.

[Jjm3233]

^ Well Thrawn's perspective and the details of what happened, I think it will all make sense.

[Soontir Solo]

I really want to read about Thrawn in the Unknown Regions for teh secret mission given to him by the Emperor. To expan Imperial Territory in teh Unknown Regions. We know he conquered a ton of territory, it would be cool to have a book about it, or an entire trilogy.

[kevin31]

i can't wait to read this one...i love Zahn's work

[housse]

Zahn has got to be the one who started it all off for most of us again. Certainly he did for me.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

I'm interested in finding out how the survivors came to hate the Jedi so much, and I want to know more about Jorj Car'das.

And housse - in my case it was KJA (and amazingly I stayed around. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif)

[housse]

I enjoyed the Jedi Academy books - that is what you mean, isn't it?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Yes indeed that is what I mean.

I actually quite enjoyed them too, if I didn't think too much about them. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

I suppose because I hadn't read the other EU at that stage I didn't realise some of the difficulties that went with it until much further down the track.

but there is that whole rather quick redemption of Kyp that's a bit of a worry.

Also, in terms of Zahn (vaguely pulling us back on topic style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif) he messed around a bit with Mara which apparently Zahn was not happy with - leading to the retrospective continuity stuff about Mara and Lando when the HoT duology came out.

[BoHeDia]

^what are you talking about...
anyways, i hope they let him write it the way he want, he always has brilliant ideas in his books...

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by bohemiandiamond@Oct 31 2004, 08:34 AM
^what are you talking about...


regarding KJA or Zahn (ie - which part of what I wrote were you wanting clarified)?

[BoHeDia]

i dont know what i was talking about...i'm lost myself...

[Soontir Solo]

I just can't wait to read about Thrawn leading military units again. Reading TTT I just loved his brilliance when in battle and planning battles. It will be great to have a taste of Thrawn, the real Thrawn, again. HoT and Survivor were good, but I want Thrawn himself again.

[Kapit]

i'm gonna have to read TTT at least twice before this book comes out

[Tresk Im'nel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I just can't wait to read about Thrawn leading military units again. Reading TTT I just loved his brilliance when in battle and planning battles. It will be great to have a taste of Thrawn, the real Thrawn, again. HoT and Survivor were good, but I want Thrawn himself again[/b][/quote]

That should be great. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif Also it'll be interesting to see some of his career in the CEDF, perhaps even some hints at why he was later exiled by the Chiss?

[BoHeDia]

stop it, stop it, your gonna make me insane, i just cant wait any longer...

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">Since 1991, fans of Star Wars literature have wondered about the mysterious Outbound Flight project. This Fall, Del Rey and author Timothy Zahn will reveal all.

First briefly mentioned in the watershed novel, Heir to the Empire, Outbound Flight was an ambitious project that sent an expeditionary mission of six Jedi Masters, 12 Jedi Knights and 50,000 men, women and children beyond the borders of known space to make contact with intelligent life. It was the brainchild of Jorus C'baoth, but even so influential a Jedi Master had to navigate the cumbersome Republic bureaucracy to get this monumental proposal approved.

With the foiling of a murderous plot, C'baoth gained the influence he needed to get Outbound Flight underway. In truth, this turn of fortune was carefully engineered by Darth Sidious, the shadowy Sith Lord who wants Outbound Flight to begin, and ultimately, to fail.

The mission is doomed from the start, for lurking within Unknown Space is the Chiss Ascendancy, and the brilliant alien mastermind who will someday become Grand Admiral Thrawn. Not even the presence of Obi-Wan Kenobi and his young Padawan learner, Anakin Skywalker, aboard the gargantuan vessel can avert disaster.

Star Wars: Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn is slated for a hardcover release on October 25. Here's a look at the cover art by Dave Seeley.

From the official site (http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/news20050322.html)
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[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

I'm rather stunned about Anakin and Obi-wan being on board. As someone said on another board, if this was the case then why didn't the survivors ask Luke if he was related...

I'm sure there will be an explanation, but it's all rather interesting and unexpected.

[Sam Kenobi]

I don't think they were neccissarily on board, but rather they couldn't prevent disaster.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi@Mar 23 2005, 09:40 PM
I don't think they were neccissarily on board, but rather they couldn't prevent disaster.
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Not even the presence of Obi-Wan Kenobi and his young Padawan learner, Anakin Skywalker, aboard the gargantuan vessel can avert disaster.

That seems to say they are on board...

[Sam Kenobi]

I suppose it does.

[empire21]

I can't wait for this one, sounds great.

[Luvinna]

I wouldn't worry too much about that statement about Anakin and Obi-wan. I mean, there was some misleading publicity about Survivor's Quest, too. I posted this at another board about that:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think the only thing I have to complain about was the misleading publicity leading up to the release of the book. There were statements made about the book that just weren't true. Well, I guess they were "from a certain point of view." But they still led me to believe things about the book that just didn't happen (which I'm glad about). For example, the "Imperials" we kept hearing about aren't your run of the mill Imperials from Bastion. They're Imperials from the Empire of the Hand which is a little Empire Thrawn carved out for himself in Chiss space.[/b][/quote]
What I'm saying is, don't take it too literally. It may not mean what you think it means. Tim Zahn isn't one for leaving plot holes.

One more thing to count down till! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[TuskenRaider1]

See when it comes to his own creations, ie Thrawn and Outbound flight, in Zahn we must trust. If its general continuity or other EU issues, then there is reason to be a little worried about some things, but about his own stuff, nah, there will be no holes Im guessing...

[empire21]

^I'm guessing the same TR1.

[TuskenRaider1]

I need to re-read survivors quest pre-Oct, but I thought that some hints about Anakin and Obis presence were given there anyway,...,,

[DarthAnakin]

I can't wait for this novel, so far it sounds really good.

[empire21]

^Yes it does, it is after all a Timothy Zahn SW novel. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[DarthAnakin]

I'm really glad Timothy Zahn is doing it, he talks about the Outbound Flight soo much in Survivor's Quest, anyone else doing this book would just seem wrong.

[empire21]

I Haven't read Survivor Quest yet, but I will after I read a few more X-Wing novels.

[TuskenRaider1]

My understanding is that Survivors Quest was nothing more than an intro to the Outbound book hed do later on, and a bridge to NJO. Thats just IMHO though, it read that way....

[DarthAnakin]

Well there were 2 diagrams of the Outbound Flight in one of the first pages of Survivor's Quest.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by TuskenRaider1@Mar 25 2005, 12:35 AM
My understanding is that Survivors Quest was nothing more than an intro to the Outbound book hed do later on, and a bridge to NJO. Thats just IMHO though, it read that way....
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Zahn has actually indicated that it is the final part in a loose septology which is to be started by the book we have yet to read... and incorporating the Thrawn trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology.

[jfreadjr]

Zahn by far is the best writer that was chosen to contribute to the series. very thourough and leaves you wanting more.

[Luminara Skye]

I can't wait to read it! It will explain so much that was asked in Survivor's Quest. I'm assuming that when Luke and Mara found the Outbound Flight that was where they got a lot of info on the Old Republic Jedi. When NJO started, Luke had made some pretty big changes in how he was training the Jedi.

The parts Obi-Wan and Anakin play will probably have something to do with helping (possibly) Jorus C'Boath get the project going. It will be good to read about the REAL Jorus C'Boath, rather than his crazed clone... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Anguirus111]

I'm betting that Anakin and Obi-Wan find out about the project falling under attack(just because they're onboard doesn't mean they were with the flight the entire way to the Outer Rim), rush to the rescue, but ultimately fail.

Because don't forget that in Tatooine Ghost, Obi-Wan had an entire file dedicated to the Outbound Flight Project located in a locked box that had a very high security level. The implications abound...

[Luminara Skye]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Mar 25 2005, 12:36 AM
Because don't forget that in Tatooine Ghost, Obi-Wan had an entire file dedicated to the Outbound Flight Project located in a locked box that had a very high security level. The implications abound...
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I forgot all about that! Hmmmm.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

[DarthAnakin]

Yeah the Outbound Flight was briefly mentioned in Tatooine Ghost

[Sam Kenobi]

Two more rereads . . .

[TuskenRaider1]

Wither way, Im hoping its worth the wait. I mean Zahns been trying to build it up for quite a while now, references here and there and everywhere...

[empire21]

I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

[Master Magnus]

Yes, me too. Zahn usually doesn't disappoint.

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by empire21@Mar 25 2005, 11:15 AM
I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
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Yeah me too

[Sam Kenobi]

Originally posted by Master Magnus@Mar 25 2005, 12:20 PM
Yes, me too. Zahn usually doesn't disappoint.
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Has he ever?

[DarthAnakin]

Nope

[Sam Kenobi]

Exactly! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi+Mar 26 2005, 06:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Kenobi @ Mar 26 2005, 06:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Master Magnus@Mar 25 2005, 12:20 PM
Yes, me too. Zahn usually doesn't disappoint.
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Has he ever?
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I hate to be a stick in the mud, but I was actually disappointed with Survivor's Quest ... however, that may change on re-reasing after OF comes out.

[JMAS]

Originally posted by DarthAnakin@Mar 24 2005, 04:33 PM
Well there were 2 diagrams of the Outbound Flight in one of the first pages of Survivor's Quest.


Yep, here they are

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[DarthAnakin]

Yup that's them

[TuskenRaider1]

Forgot about those....nice

[empire21]

Originally posted by JMAS+Mar 26 2005, 11:08 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JMAS @ Mar 26 2005, 11:08 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-DarthAnakin@Mar 24 2005, 04:33 PM
Well there were 2 diagrams of the Outbound Flight in one of the first pages of Survivor's Quest.


Yep, here they are

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Will this geek high ever come down. Thanks JMAS

[DarthAnakin]

And the ships is much bigger than it actually looks. Something like over 50,000 people were on it.

[Lord Ulic]

I really like the cover.

[empire21]

Originally posted by DarthAnakin@Mar 26 2005, 11:47 PM
And the ships is much bigger than it actually looks. Something like over 50,000 people were on it.
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Thats one big ship.

Originally posted by Lord Ulic@Mar 27 2005, 06:52 AM
I really like the cover.
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Yeah so do I, but they probably will change it a bit before it comes out.

[DarthAnakin]

^ I hope not, I really like it too.

[Soontir Solo]

Anakin and Obi-Wan are going to be in it, I don't know if I like that or not.

[empire21]

^Why's that?

[Soontir Solo]

Hard to put into words really. It was kind of the same thing with Dark Rendevous how they were kind of thrown in the story unnecessarily. I just hope it isn't like that again.

[Luminara Skye]

Obi-Wan and Anakin being in Y:DR turned out alright. I can't see them in Outbound Flight, though. Having them in there for the sake of just having them in there is ridiculous, but I'm sure Tim Zahn will handle it well. We'll have to wait and see.

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[empire21]

Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Mar 28 2005, 05:17 PM
Hard to put into words really. It was kind of the same thing with Dark Rendevous how they were kind of thrown in the story unnecessarily. I just hope it isn't like that again.
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I understand, but with Zahn we will have a good reason for there apearance. I trust Zahn's writing. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Mar 28 2005, 01:54 PM
Anakin and Obi-Wan are going to be in it, I don't know if I like that or not.
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Yeah I know what you mean

[Soontir Solo]

Yeah, Zahn is great so I have faith that it will work out in the end.

[empire21]

^Exactly.

[DarthAnakin]

Yeah it probably will

[Soontir Solo]

It will be different to read about a Cabaoth who isn't insane so that interests me. The only other time we have really seen the real Cabaoth was a cameo in Cloak of Deception.

[DarthAnakin]

^ He was in Cloak of Deception? He must've had a very small role, I don't even remember him in it.

[Soontir Solo]

Yeah, he was there towards the beginning. He talked with Qui-Gon some. He was only there for like a page or two.

[Sam Kenobi]

Another reread . . .

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Mar 29 2005, 07:56 PM
Yeah, he was there towards the beginning. He talked with Qui-Gon some. He was only there for like a page or two.
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I think I remember, did they talk about politics or Palpatine or something like that?

[empire21]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi@Mar 30 2005, 12:00 AM
Another reread . . .
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Yep

[Anguirus111]

I know that people are reluctant to have Anakin and Obi-Wan in OFP but I think it has potential.

I also can't wait to find out the real reason Thrawn attacked OFP besides the fact that he was there and they were there. I speculate it has something to do with the Yuuzhan Vong, but I know that couldn't possibly be it.

[TuskenRaider1]

TO be honest, I think the main reason to read the novel is for Thrawns motivations. Its the biggest question in my mind remaining. Seems to make sense now taht we know what we know in the overall SW storyline, but would be interesting to see how Zahn plays it.

Id agree with SS though, that if they are being thrown in for the sake of it, it may not be as smooth as Id hoped....

[Soontir Solo]

I just want to read abotu Thrawn in battle. Read about him with strategy again. His victories in TTT were incredible. He would have won at Bilbringi in The Last Command if it hadn't been for Rukh.

[DarthAnakin]

Yeah Thrawn's always fun to read about

[Anguirus111]

For some reason I still keep anticipating that something is going to come up in OFP that'll change the way people look at the the SW EU. Maybe it's just wishful thinking... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

[Soontir Solo]

I think that way about alot of book sometimes, like Labyrinth of Evil and the NJO.

[Anguirus111]

I'm still waiting for the revelation that New Republic Intelligence discovered information about the Vong from classified records from the Galactic Empire(the incident on Zonama Sekot prior to its departure in Rogue Planet and stuff that Thrawn knew about them) and that they kept it a secret for several years.

I'm kinda hoping that Thrawn's knowledge of the Vong emerges in OFP and that he knew about it, Obi-Wan found out about it, and both of them kept it a big secret.

[Soontir Solo]

I don't think New Republic Intelligence ever knew about the Yuuzghan Vong till Vector Prime. In Agents of Chaos 1 there is a meeting with Intelligence people and military people and stuff and you can tell they didn't know. And I am pretty sure all the Empire and Thrawn wouldn't have known about the Yuuzghan Vong either.

[Anguirus111]

As near as I can tell, The Hand of Thrawn duology hints greatly about some kind of threat that Thrawn knew about in the Unknown Regions, which is why he went into the Unknown Regions in the first place. He went to create a hidden army to face this unknown enemy and only went back to the galaxy proper to unite the Empire and New Republic in order to further present a united front against this enemy. It also seems that Thrawn knew when the Vong were coming in ten years following his death, which is why he had his clone set up to emerge then in order to take the knowledge from the Hand of Thrawn and use it against the Vong.

But alas I digress, OFP is still going to be awesome regardless.

[Soontir Solo]

He didn't have the clone set-up to emerge at that particular time on purpose. If Thrawn had died 5 years earlier then he did teh cloen would have been ready 5 years earlier. There is no evidence he had the clone set-up to come out so as to fight the Yuuzghan Vong. The clone was just a way for Thrawn to try and keep his legacy going and keep his kind of genius in the galaxy. Thrawn would go to Niruan every once in awhile and re do the timer for his clone, setting it each time for 10 years from that visit. That is why he told Parck that if it was reported he died that 10 years later look for his return.


I really don't see any proof that Thrawn knew about the Yuuzghan Vong. He knew about enemies in the Unknown Regions, but teh Yuuzghan Vong weren't in the unknown regions. They weren't even in the galaxy when Thrawn was living. Thrawn knew about enemies native to the Unknown Regions I think, but the Yuuzghan Vong no. He knew about the Ssi-Ruuk, the Yevetha, the Killiks, and who knows what other enemies.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

I think that there is no doubt at all that Timothy Zahn has another threat in mind - he was not interested at all in the NJO (in an interview last year he said that he hadn't read any of the books) which seems to me to show that he did not conisder it to be an extension of his storyline.

IMO we're either going to get more insight into this unnamed threat in OF, or he still has another post-SQ but pre-NJO book in mind (actually I think that he still has another book from that era in mind anyway...).

[Anguirus111]

It's probably just the Ssi-Ruuk again.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Again, I doubt that this is what Zahn had in mind. He has shown throughout his books that he prefers his own characters (or those of his good friend Michael Stackpole) and I just can't see him integrating a foe from elsewhere into his work.

I'm positive he has something of his own specifically in mind.

[Soontir Solo]

Yeah, you know he does. It wont' be the Ssi-Ruuk, I know that.

[Anguirus111]

Either that or a branch into whatever enemy it is that Troy Denning is coming up with for that new 9-book post NJO saga.

[Luvinna]

I think the enemy we will see is the Vagaari. They're the ones who were threatening the OFP when Thrawn showed up, IIRC.

[DarthAnakin]

Yeah that was talked about a bit in Survivor's Quest too.

[Sam Kenobi]

Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Mar 30 2005, 12:48 PM
I just want to read abotu Thrawn in battle. Read about him with strategy again. His victories in TTT were incredible. He would have won at Bilbringi in The Last Command if it hadn't been for Rukh.
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Originally posted by DarthAnakin@Mar 30 2005, 02:44 PM
Yeah Thrawn's always fun to read about
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Not to rain on anybody's parade, but Thrawn had to be the easiest character to create. He's so smart, that he almost knows anything.

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Mar 30 2005, 05:54 PM
As near as I can tell, The Hand of Thrawn duology hints greatly about some kind of threat that Thrawn knew about in the Unknown Regions, which is why he went into the Unknown Regions in the first place. He went to create a hidden army to face this unknown enemy and only went back to the galaxy proper to unite the Empire and New Republic in order to further present a united front against this enemy. It also seems that Thrawn knew when the Vong were coming in ten years following his death, which is why he had his clone set up to emerge then in order to take the knowledge from the Hand of Thrawn and use it against the Vong.

But alas I digress, OFP is still going to be awesome regardless.
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Actually, I like that better than what they are.

Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Mar 30 2005, 08:40 PM
I think that there is no doubt at all that Timothy Zahn has another threat in mind - he was not interested at all in the NJO (in an interview last year he said that he hadn't read any of the books) which seems to me to show that he did not conisder it to be an extension of his storyline.

IMO we're either going to get more insight into this unnamed threat in OF, or he still has another post-SQ but pre-NJO book in mind (actually I think that he still has another book from that era in mind anyway...).
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Well, probably because that had nothing to do with him.


Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Mar 30 2005, 10:20 PM
Again, I doubt that this is what Zahn had in mind. He has shown throughout his books that he prefers his own characters (or those of his good friend Michael Stackpole) and I just can't see him integrating a foe from elsewhere into his work.

I'm positive he has something of his own specifically in mind.
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Kinda off topic, but I thought Stackpole should have had the honor to write about Neeja Halycon. I feel like Neeja was a much different person then how he is in Jedi Trial.

[Anguirus111]

Back to the Vong again, but I would go nuts if there was a brief mentioning of Thrawn at least running into the Vong force that attacked Zonama Sekot right before Rogue Planet.

[Sam Kenobi]

Why?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi+Apr 1 2005, 09:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Kenobi @ Apr 1 2005, 09:03 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Mar 30 2005, 08:40 PM
I think that there is no doubt at all that Timothy Zahn has another threat in mind - he was not interested at all in the NJO (in an interview last year he said that he hadn't read any of the books) which seems to me to show that he did not conisder it to be an extension of his storyline.

IMO we're either going to get more insight into this unnamed threat in OF, or he still has another post-SQ but pre-NJO book in mind (actually I think that he still has another book from that era in mind anyway...).
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Well, probably because that had nothing to do with him.


Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Mar 30 2005, 10:20 PM
Again, I doubt that this is what Zahn had in mind. He has shown throughout his books that he prefers his own characters (or those of his good friend Michael Stackpole) and I just can't see him integrating a foe from elsewhere into his work.

I'm positive he has something of his own specifically in mind.
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Kinda off topic, but I thought Stackpole should have had the honor to write about Neeja Halycon. I feel like Neeja was a much different person then how he is in Jedi Trial.
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Re Zahn - As he was writing Survivor's Quest he should have at least considered what would be coming after to ensure that there were no continuity hiccups...

Re Stackpole - I haven't read Jedi Trial, but I agree that with a significant character like Halcyon it would have been good to have him write the backstory that I would imagine he had in mind when he created him ... I wonder if they gave him the option?

[lordmakalpine]

Zahn's books are generally the only post-ROTJ books that I enjoy. Since I'm something of a Star Wars fleet junkie, any new information about the Dreadnaughts or early Star Destroyers in this book would be awesome.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi@Mar 31 2005, 08:18 PM
Why?
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It's probability a result of my inability to get past the idea that Thrawn being in the Unknown Regions had nothing to do with the Vong.


Does anybody think The Katana Fleet is going to get a mention in this book?

[Sam Kenobi]

Most likely.

[Soontir Solo]

I doubt it, I don't see why it would.

[Sam Kenobi]

It was a Republic Fleet in the Clone Wars. Why wouldn't it? It will at least garnish a mention.

[Anguirus111]

I find it odd that during a time of war, the Jedi would agree to let several of their members go into the Unknown Regions on a long term mission to open up the area to hyperspace travel. Somehow I'd think the Jedi would want all the members they could get.

[DarthAnakin]

^ yeah good point

[Anguirus111]

Not as to say I don't understand Palpatine's motives for letting them go(less Jedi=less headaches) but the Council's decision confuses me.

Unless Yoda knew the Jedi were screwed because of the dark side influence and wanted to send some Jedi elsewhere in the hope that they would survive whatever ordeal would happen to the rest of the Order.

[Sam Kenobi]

I'm sure this will be adressed and justified.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 1 2005, 04:34 PM
I find it odd that during a time of war, the Jedi would agree to let several of their members go into the Unknown Regions on a long term mission to open up the area to hyperspace travel. Somehow I'd think the Jedi would want all the members they could get.
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It wasn't in a time of war - the book is set between Episodes I and II not II and III.

[Sam Kenobi]

Oh! That changes things. I forgot about that.

[Sam Kenobi]

So then we probably wont see the Katana Fleet/

[Anguirus111]

Somehow I always got the impression that Outbound Flight occurred during the Clone Wars. Something about that Delta fighter in the bay in Survivors Quest seemed to hint at it.

[Luvinna]

I think it was just a couple of years before AOTC.

[DarthAnakin]

Ok now it makes sense style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[DarthAnakin]

So this would have to take place before The Approaching Storm then.

[Soontir Solo]

Yeah, it has too since Anakin and Obi-Wan are in it.

[Anguirus111]

I'm rereading Survivor's Quest right now, but did it ever explain what that droideka was doing onboard OFP?

Perhaps another mystery...

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 10 2005, 11:17 AM
I'm rereading Survivor's Quest right now, but did it ever explain what that droideka was doing onboard OFP?

Perhaps another mystery...
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I suspect that this is another thing that we will discover in the prequel book... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Sanae]

Hi! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

This is my very first post and I really hope I get it right, if not, please forgive me!

About the SQ question, I seem to recall either Luke or Mara commenting on how much influence Master C'baoth must have had in order to get some droidekas assigned to the mission...

But as Suzanne said, we'll find out for sure in the upcoming book...

Sanae style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bye.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Welcome Sanae - great to see you over here. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I hope that we will see much more of you.

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[empire21]

Yes, welcome indeed style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Luminara Skye]

Welcome, Sanae! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wave.gif

I think it's likely to be explained in Outbound Flight. They had an interesting way taking it out, though.

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[Sam Kenobi]

Well, if I have one tiny nitpicky thing to say about Zahn's writing, then it would be about that destroyer droid thing. Well, the first one. It was unnessisary foreshadowing. Maybe if it was in another book. But it's not that big o' deal.

[TuskenRaider1]

I get your point. I think that perhaps he is adding and weaveing his new info (Lucas's prequels) into his older stuff and flashbacks from TTT. There will be inconsistancies, but I think the foreshadowing was as much to bridge gaps as it was to give anything away...

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi@Apr 11 2005, 02:10 AM
Well, if I have one tiny nitpicky thing to say about Zahn's writing, then it would be about that destroyer droid thing. Well, the first one. It was unnessisary foreshadowing. Maybe if it was in another book. But it's not that big o' deal.
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I thought it was blantant foreshadowing as well, but considering how comical it was in the first appearance, I was glad it was in there.

[Soontir Solo]

I didn't see a need for having a destroyer droid in SQ, but it didn't weaken the book in my opinion.

[Jediwan]

It was just to ad a little suspense in the first part of the book

[TuskenRaider1]

Yeah, and the first real time that TZ gets to play wiht clone wars stuff....seemed almost like a sim run for his new book to me...

[Anguirus111]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with Zahn testing the waters of the PT. It'll just make Outbound Flight Project that much better.

[Sam Kenobi]

Again, I'm nitpicking. I don't mind it too much at all.

[empire21]

Anyone know how many pages long it's going to be?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Given that it's only been a few weeks since we got the number of pages in The Joiner King, I doubt that we'll have page details for a few months yet.

[TuskenRaider1]

True. (Ha oops, I just thought about "Fact" the line that drove me a little nutters in Tenel Ka)

[Anguirus111]

I was rereading Survivor's Quest and it repeatedly mentions how one of the Chiss from The Hand of Thrawn duology, Pell(I think), mentioned that there were a hundred threats out in the unknown regions that would chill your body. That was the main reason I felt the way I did about Thrawn knowing about the Vong. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

[DarthLazious]

He knew about the Vong?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

No he didn't - that's some people's conjecture which has not been verified.

In fact, given that Timothy Zahn wanted to have nothing to do with the NJO it's aa safe bet that the Vong were definitely NOT known and that Zahn has his own "threats" in mind.

I think we will either hear more about them in this book, or that Zahn has another "finale" up his sleeve (or both).

[TuskenRaider1]

I think he probably had his own ideas, and LFL and others put forward teh NJO and since they didnt vibe with his proposals on where to go next with the charas, he decided to "do his own thang".

[Anguirus111]

Well I guess short of an actual interview with Zahn, we'll never know for sure. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

I have heard an interview with Zahn (available on Requiem of the Outcast through Starwarz.com) from Con Carolinas this year, and whilst he was reasonably careful not to be too n egative, he was clearly uninterested if not worse about the NJO.

I think it came across loud and clear that he wanted nothing to do with the NJO/Vong storyline.

[TuskenRaider1]

The more I read, the more I feel like he really believes his books are the only ones that matter...Kinda ticks me off. I really liked TTT and HoT was pretty good. Hes one of the best, but upon rereading most of th eEU recently, I like Stackpole and Stover just as much, and Luceno definately has his moments (Im thinking mostly TUF). Damn shame when ego gets into it, but i doubt the Vong will be in OF....

[Sam Kenobi]

Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Apr 15 2005, 07:31 PM
I have heard an interview with Zahn (available on Requiem of the Outcast through Starwarz.com) from Con Carolinas this year, and whilst he was reasonably careful not to be too n egative, he was clearly uninterested if not worse about the NJO.

I think it came across loud and clear that he wanted nothing to do with the NJO/Vong storyline.
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Linkage?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Sam Kenobi+Apr 18 2005, 04:27 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Kenobi @ Apr 18 2005, 04:27 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Apr 15 2005, 07:31 PM
I have heard an interview with Zahn (available on Requiem of the Outcast through Starwarz.com) from Con Carolinas this year, and whilst he was reasonably careful not to be too n egative, he was clearly uninterested if not worse about the NJO.

I think it came across loud and clear that he wanted nothing to do with the NJO/Vong storyline.
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Linkage?
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Sadly it looks like it's not available anymore and I think I deleted the file from my computer. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

http://www.starwarsfanworks.com/requiem.html

It was edition VIII

[TuskenRaider1]

Gracias.....will check soon!

[DarthSolo]

In another phone conversation with Luvinna, I got information from Timothy Zahn's panel at C3! Here's my notes. As ussual ask me to clear stuff up or ask Luv when she gets back!

In 2000, LucasBooks approached Zahn about doing Outbound Flight books.
Set between TPM and AOTC.
They then approached him about a Luke/Mara book: Survivor’s Quest.
He decided to link SQ with Outbound Flight.
Dangling thought threads from SQ answered in Outbound Flight.
Both outlined at same time.
Attitude of Survivor’s in SQ will be explained in Outbound Flight.
Thrawn is a commander in Chiss Expansionary Fleet in Outbound Flight.
Lots of Jedi action.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Thanks again Luv and DS. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

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[Anguirus111]

On the other thread it also mentions that the 'unknown enemy' in Visions of the Future was the Vong. Guess that settles that part of the argument.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Indeed ... and as I said in that thread either they're doing some sreious retconning or I was wrong.

And I guess I was wrong. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[TuskenRaider1]

Good info DS and Luv thanks!

[empire21]

Yes thanks indeed.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)@Apr 25 2005, 02:19 AM
Indeed ... and as I said in that thread either they're doing some sreious retconning or I was wrong.

And I guess I was wrong. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
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I do agree that based off of Zahn's "I didn't want to write NJO because it wouldn't be my story" line, it was propably either something that LLC told him to put in, or if he was asked to put it in, he deliberately tried to make it seem like he was referencing something else.

[DarthSolo]

from what Luv told me over the phone, i get the impression Zahn likes to have full control over his story lines, and because the NJO story arc was already planned out, he wouldn't have as much creative leeway. I also think he probably doesn't like working with other authors as much. Im sure Luv can clear this all up when she returns.

[Soontir Solo]

Makes sense.

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Apr 25 2005, 09:47 AM
from what Luv told me over the phone, i get the impression Zahn likes to have full control over his story lines, and because the NJO story arc was already planned out, he wouldn't have as much creative leeway. I also think he probably doesn't like working with other authors as much. Im sure Luv can clear this all up when she returns.
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Is correct.

Tim Zahn is so nice. He let people take pictures through out the whole thing, and even gave me a nice smile when I asked for one. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Great pic, Luvinna. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

And thanks again...

[Luminara Skye]

Thanks for the info Luvinna and DS!

[Soontir Solo]

When does Outbound Flight come out again?

[Luvinna]

October 25th.

[TuskenRaider1]

Cool, sounds like a good bunch of stuff. I knew he was talking about the Vong in HoT, knew it knew it klnew it.! rare, that Im actually right that is...

[Anguirus111]

Course this still doesn't resolve the issue of whether or not Thrawn knew about them. After all just because the Empire of the Hand does, doesn't mean that they couldn't have found out after Thrawn's death.

[TuskenRaider1]

Valid point....

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Apr 26 2005, 09:57 AM
October 25th.
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2 dates that i'm counting down to:

May 19th
and
October 25th

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 26 2005, 01:47 PM
Course this still doesn't resolve the issue of whether or not Thrawn knew about them. After all just because the Empire of the Hand does, doesn't mean that they couldn't have found out after Thrawn's death.
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Now that I know the "unknown threat" was the YV, I think maybe Thrawn did know about them. After all, the "Far Outsiders" first showed up sometime around TPM. I think it's possible that the Chiss had run into them sometime between that first attack on Zonoma Sekot and Thrawn returning to the Known galaxy in TTT.

I'm still not sure my posts are making much sense.

[Soontir Solo]

Was this unknown threat attributed to the Vong recently or was Zahn aware of the NJO storyarc when writing the HoT Duology so he knew when writing it that it was teh YV or what? In other words when exactly was the unknown treat attributed to being the Yuuzghan Vong by Zahn?

[DarthSolo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Unknown threat in VoF: It is the YV. This was planned. They were asked to be vague. [/b][/quote]
they knew it the whole time. I doubt they had everything about the YV planned out, but I think they knew that there was a big threat due in a big series, and this was it.

[Luvinna]

Yes, TZ knew about the NJO arc and the YV when writting VotF, so when he decided to make a reference, he was asked to keep it vague.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Luvinna+Apr 26 2005, 04:39 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Luvinna @ Apr 26 2005, 04:39 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Anguirus111@Apr 26 2005, 01:47 PM
Course this still doesn't resolve the issue of whether or not Thrawn knew about them.* After all just because the Empire of the Hand does, doesn't mean that they couldn't have found out after Thrawn's death.
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Now that I know the "unknown threat" was the YV, I think maybe Thrawn did know about them. After all, the "Far Outsiders" first showed up sometime around TPM. I think it's possible that the Chiss had run into them sometime between that first attack on Zonoma Sekot and Thrawn returning to the Known galaxy in TTT.

I'm still not sure my posts are making much sense.
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No, it still makes sense, it's essentially what I was arguing a couple pages back. Now all we have to do is wait and see if anything filters through into Outbound Flight.

[Sam Kenobi]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 24 2005, 10:52 PM
On the other thread it also mentions that the 'unknown enemy' in Visions of the Future was the Vong. Guess that settles that part of the argument.
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Originally posted by DarthSolo@Apr 25 2005, 08:47 AM
from what Luv told me over the phone, i get the impression Zahn likes to have full control over his story lines, and because the NJO story arc was already planned out, he wouldn't have as much creative leeway. I also think he probably doesn't like working with other authors as much. Im sure Luv can clear this all up when she returns.
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Originally posted by DarthSolo+Apr 25 2005, 04:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DarthSolo @ Apr 25 2005, 04:57 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-JediKaputski@Apr 25 2005, 12:13 PM
that would be amazing if they did, but who knows....i bet DS would be there in a heartbeat
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ya damn right i would! But, i doubt they will. Even so, if i get off my butt and actually pursue an acting career outside my school's stage, i might be able to find my way to auditions anyway! doubtful, too much being a student/.
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Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 26 2005, 12:47 PM
Course this still doesn't resolve the issue of whether or not Thrawn knew about them. After all just because the Empire of the Hand does, doesn't mean that they couldn't have found out after Thrawn's death.
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So this is setting up more book opportunities. I think in the future we will see more books about the Vong, and the Chiss during maybe the Prequel or OT Eras. Remember the dead Vong that were found on that one (desert) planet with Corran Horn?

[TuskenRaider1]

I thought that was explained in NJO later on....mm. maybe not. I dont see Zahn doing much with the Vong though....

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

I agree Trusky ... whilst he may have included a vague reference at he request of Lucas Licensing, I just can't see him picking up the vong and taking them anywhere - I think that if he does write a Luke-Mara-Ben at 15 book it will be entirely his own scenario.

I think that he actually left SQ open for a follow up in realtion to mopping up the Vagaari, so that whilst this OF book may tie up many of the loose ends, there's still a bunch of Vagaari running loose out there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Anguirus111]

Still, it would be awesome if there was a scene sometime in the future with Thrawn just about completely wiping out the Vong picket force that attacked Zonama Sekot in Rogue Planet. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[Sam Kenobi]

When I posted that, I didn't mean Zahn had to write it. He just set up some opportunities.

[Ithorian guy]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@Apr 27 2005, 10:59 AM
Still, it would be awesome if there was a scene sometime in the future with Thrawn just about completely wiping out the Vong picket force that attacked Zonama Sekot in Rogue Planet. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif
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yes, that would be awesome

[ROR_JagFel_20]

how long is the book going to be?

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

We haven't been told formally yet, and the Lucas Licensing people haven't indicated that the galley proofs have come in for checking yet...

However Amazon.com says it's 416 pages:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=books&n=507846 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345456831/qid=1114910830/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-4537998-8097530?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

[empire21]

416 sounds right, would be nice if it was over a 1000 style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[DarthAnakin]

Anything over 400 sounds great style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Anguirus111]

Just a quick question, did anybody notice that the engine configuration of the Dreadnoughts on the cover doesn't agree with X-Wing Alliance, the Official Guide to Vehicles and Vessels(both of them) and the image seen in Survivor's Quest? The vehicles should have six(eight?) engines with half on each side of the back of the vehicle in block formation.

I wonder why the OFP had a different engine configuration, better suited for long distance flight maybe?

[Tresk Im'nel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Just a quick question, did anybody notice that the engine configuration of the Dreadnoughts on the cover doesn't agree with X-Wing Alliance, the Official Guide to Vehicles and Vessels(both of them) and the image seen in Survivor's Quest? The vehicles should have six(eight?) engines with half on each side of the back of the vehicle in block formation.

I wonder why the OFP had a different engine configuration, better suited for long distance flight maybe?[/b][/quote]

Hmm. Official images of EU vehicles often show minor (or even major) inconsistencies, the Dreadnaughts in X-wing vs. TIE Fighter looked very different from the other images, for example. I suspect that the best in-universe explanation would be, as you suggest, that they are different variants of the same class. Although given that the Dreadnaught-class were built in great numbers over a long period of time it might just be that they're different production blocks or standard variants, rather than a special modification for the OFP, although that's a definite possibility.

Minor ROTS <div onClick="openClose('97124ae0fa42209effcba356d05c1a42')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="97124ae0fa42209effcba356d05c1a42" style="display:none">I've seen a still from ROTS showing what might be a Dreadnaught, and it resembles the XvT version, interestingly enough...</div>

[Anguirus111]

Was reading Survivor's Quest today and it mentions the fact that no one has any idea where the Delta-12 Skysprite came from. Considering that it's a two-seater and that Anakin and Obi-Wan are in this story, I'm willing to bet that they flew that thing to Outbound Flight and left by other means.

Not that this explains what they were doing there, just probably how they got there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

[Soontir Solo]

^I am inclined to agree

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@May 3 2005, 09:10 PM
Was reading Survivor's Quest today and it mentions the fact that no one has any idea where the Delta-12 Skysprite came from. Considering that it's a two-seater and that Anakin and Obi-Wan are in this story, I'm willing to bet that they flew that thing to Outbound Flight and left by other means.

Not that this explains what they were doing there, just probably how they got there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif
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Excellent point!

[DarthAnakin]

BTW, love the new avatar Soontir. I didn't recognize you at first, you had that other one for sooo long! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

There's a difference? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

And on topic - that's a definite possibility with the starfighter. We always knew we were going to get the explanation as to how it got there, but to think it might have been Obi-wan and Anakin adds a bit of interest.

[empire21]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@May 3 2005, 11:10 PM
Was reading Survivor's Quest today and it mentions the fact that no one has any idea where the Delta-12 Skysprite came from. Considering that it's a two-seater and that Anakin and Obi-Wan are in this story, I'm willing to bet that they flew that thing to Outbound Flight and left by other means.

Not that this explains what they were doing there, just probably how they got there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif
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I also agree with that.

[ROR_JagFel_20]

Outbound Flight is releasing in fall right???

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by ROR_JagFel_20@May 5 2005, 11:48 AM
Outbound Flight is releasing in fall right???
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It's coming out on October 25:
http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/news20050322.html

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[Luvinna]

Originally posted by Anguirus111@May 3 2005, 09:10 PM
Was reading Survivor's Quest today and it mentions the fact that no one has any idea where the Delta-12 Skysprite came from. Considering that it's a two-seater and that Anakin and Obi-Wan are in this story, I'm willing to bet that they flew that thing to Outbound Flight and left by other means.

Not that this explains what they were doing there, just probably how they got there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif
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Now that's an interesting theory! I like it! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

People have already heard that the publication date of this book was pushed back to make room for Luceno's Dark Lord, but we have now been given an official release date over at TOS: January 31, 2006.

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?thr...22689&start=159 (http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=222689&start=159)

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[James William Alexander Atreides]

I would like to know what happened to the Outbound Flight. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hmmm.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[TuskenRaider1]

Heh, so would Zahn, I lthink he writes the other stories until he can come up with a good detailed version style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[DarthAnakin]

January 31st isn't that bad, I guess style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Master Shrive]

Yeah, I can't wait for this one. There's going to be so much more EU worth reading and I've still got so much to read of whats out there all ready!!

[James William Alexander Atreides]

Originally posted by DarthAnakin@Jun 10 2005, 02:55 PM
January 31st isn't that bad, I guess style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif
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Damn, that's far away. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Soontir Solo]

Right now I am waiting for Dark Nest.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Jun 16 2005, 09:24 AM
Right now I am waiting for Dark Nest.
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only a little over two months to wait... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif

Incidentally, have people seen the teaser for Outbound Flight at the end of the paperback edition of Jedi Trial?

<div onClick="openClose('0d3bb963a86bf8e6c57c14df6ba0351c')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="0d3bb963a86bf8e6c57c14df6ba0351c" style="display:none">It involves the first meeting between Jorj Car'das and Thrawn, when Car'das was just a young whippersnapper and Thrawn wanted to learn how to speak Basic...</div>

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[Luminara Skye]

^That sounds cool! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

[BoHeDia]

^nice...

[Soontir Solo]

I read it, and am looking forward to this story even more now.

[Anguirus111]

With all the talk about The Dark Nest and the Legacy of the Force nine-book series, this topic may as well be bumped though I seriously doubt we know anything new.

Though we will in about three months.

[Anguirus111]

Another bump a month and a half later.

[Whuffa]

And still nothing new...

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

It's still not coming out for another 2 months, but no doubt they are all printed and sitting in warehouses somewhere given that they were ready to be published a month ago.

[Tresk Im'nel]

I wonder what the other craft on the cover are? Chiss fast attack craft, maybe? They look too big to be snubfighters, although maybe I'm interpreting their position relative to the Dreadnaughts wrong...

[Soontir Solo]

I definitely think they are Chiss in origin, I automatically thought they were pretty big for fighters as well. I am sure we will get all the good information abotu the Chiss ships though in the book.

I really want to see Thrawn's interactions with his Chiss superiors personally. We know he doesn't get along well with them, it will be interesting to see him interact with them. In The Thrawn Trilogy we never see him interact with a superior, so it will be interesting at least.

[Luvinna]

So, this book comes out in a little over 2 weeks and we still know very little about it. I went looking for a synopsis online and couldn't find a thing. Not even DelRey has anything and sw.com still only has their "First Look" article from last March. Has anyone else been able to find anything?

[mirax terrik horn]

No I have avidly looked and haven't been able to find ANYTHING it is bothering me most of the time I can find something on everything.

[mirax terrik horn]

Scratch that I found something. Wikipedia website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbound_Flight_Project) This has a bit more than the star wars website. Hope this can peak your interest even more.

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by mirax terrik horn@Jan 13 2006, 04:04 PM
Scratch that I found something. Wikipedia website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbound_Flight_Project) This has a bit more than the star wars website. Hope this can peak your interest even more.
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Not really. Just about all of that we already knew from SQ or TTT. *sigh* Don't get me wrong. I'm excited about the book. I just wish LucasBooks was as loose with the spoilers on this one as they have been with DN and LOTF.

BTW, DelRey's site says the page count is 464. A bit higher than the previously posted 416.

[Queso]

you know, you got to admit over the past few years the covers for the Star Wars books have gotten better, I know not related per say to the topic, but I'm looking forward to this book to..only downside is I can't buy it immediatly...style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Jan 14 2006, 09:46 AM
So, this book comes out in a little over 2 weeks and we still know very little about it. I went looking for a synopsis online and couldn't find a thing. Not even DelRey has anything and sw.com still only has their "First Look" article from last March. Has anyone else been able to find anything?
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There was the extract in with the paperback of Jedi Trial - did you see that?

[mirax terrik horn]

Really, Hmm I did not see that. Maybe I can stir something up from a friend.

[Mitth'raw'nuruodo]

There's also the excerpt in The Unseen Queen.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Mitth'raw'nuruodo@Jan 14 2006, 05:09 PM
There's also the excerpt in The Unseen Queen.
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*slaps forehead*

How did I forget that it was also in there?

For those who are wondering - it's exactly the same excerpt.

[Anguirus111]

I'm curious as to what exactly is this book going to cover. I mean there's a lot, everything from before OFP was launched, to the Car'das stuff, to even the survivors onboard OFP and more.

The only revelation I want is that Thrawn encountered the Yuuzhan Vong fleet that left Zonama Sekot with Vergere.

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)+Jan 13 2006, 06:15 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Suzanne (ex CoS Leia) @ Jan 13 2006, 06:15 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Luvinna@Jan 14 2006, 09:46 AM
So, this book comes out in a little over 2 weeks and we still know very little about it. I went looking for a synopsis online and couldn't find a thing. Not even DelRey has anything and sw.com still only has their "First Look" article from last March. Has anyone else been able to find anything?
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There was the extract in with the paperback of Jedi Trial - did you see that?
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I read Jedi Trial in hardcover borrowed from the library. Didn't like it enough to go buy it so I haven't even looked at the paperback.

Originally posted by Mitth'raw'nuruodo@Jan 13 2006, 11:09 PM
There's also the excerpt in The Unseen Queen.
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D'oh! I didn't see that. I usually don't look at the excerpts in the back of books (for what reason I can't say). I'll have to read it.

[DarthSolo]

So, what's our countdown at? 2 weeks? Is it hardback or paperback? This will determine when I actually read it...

[Whuffa]

hardback

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Whuffa@Jan 16 2006, 10:02 PM
hardback
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Indeed - and the paperback isn't due until the same time next year.

Put your name down at the library asap, DS. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[DarthSolo]

Curses! CUUUUURSES!

[Luvinna]

Now this is the kind of stuff I've been looking for. This is the synopsis from the Science Fiction Book Club (http://www.sfbc.com) (should have thought to check there sooner). The first paragraph is nothing new, but the other two... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Before the Clone Wars began, the future Emperor was already maneuvering to destroy the Jedi…and nearly succeeded when six Jedi Masters, twelve Jedi Knights and fifty thousand support personnel left on a grand adventure into uncharted space, never to be heard from again. Until Luke Skywalker and his wife, Mara, headed out for the Unknown Regions in Survivor's Quest, the fate of the Outbound Flight Project remained an enigma. This is the tale of that long-lost expedition—a mission that began as a new hope for the galaxy, and ended in tragedy.
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Outbound Flight is Jedi Master Jorus C'baoth's pet project. For years, he has lobbied the Republic Senate to fund the grand exploration and colonization fleet. Now, six Dreadnaught warships, linked to each other around a central core, stand ready to be sent out into the Unknown Regions and from there to another galaxy. But, thanks to Senate funding cuts, the fleet lacks passengers. To get the mission underway, Master C'baoth makes a bargain with Supreme Chancellor Palpatine: he agrees to settle a minor dispute on the planet Barlok in exchange for Palpatine's support. But C'baoth has no idea that he's made a deal with the devil….
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With so many problems facing the Republic, critics and opponents in both the Senate and the Jedi Council view the Outbound Flight Project as a waste of resources. Concerned that the single-minded C'baoth may defy the Council if they try to cancel it, Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi and his Padawan, Anakin Skywalker, are sent to Barlok to keep an eye on him. For something is going on beneath the Master's arrogant surface, something that could break at any time….[/b][/quote]

[mirax terrik horn]

Hmm interesting..... not what I thought it was going to be. I will just get it from the library then.

[Anguirus111]

The story about OFP should've been a trilogy methinks.

[DarthSolo]

I'm a bit disapointed that this book will inevitably feature Obi and Anakin AGAIN. It'd be nice to have some lesser known Jedi featured as the ones to go watch and whatnot. Ah well.

[Whuffa]

I know, but I guess they have to go with whoever sells the most books...

[Anguirus111]

Given this new subplot I'm guessing that when OFP finally launches its probably only a handful of pages before Thrawn destroys it. Though how any of this will relate to the Vagaari is beyond me.

[DarthAnakin]

The long wait is almost over style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Whuffa]

For you maybe. I then have to wait another two weeks before the book gets to my little former-communist country... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Only two weeks - out here we'll be lucky if it's out in a month or two! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Luckily I have a friend in the US who's getting it and shipping it for me. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Soontir Solo]

Mine shipped today, so I should have it in the next few days.

[Luvinna]

Mine shipped today, too, but instead of shipping it two-day like I requested, they're shipping it Ground with a 4-day delivery time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

[eddie]

I ordered it in the same order with the Comics Companion book which is scheduled to appear (finally) halfway through February! I hope they do ship out OF earlier, however...

[Lunatic]

I was lucky to have a copy of Outbound Flight last week and had the time to read it. I've discussed about a lot of spoilers at the end on the last show.
http://www.swendirect.com/archives/swd73e.zip

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[Luvinna]

So, I'm a little more than 100 pages into this thing, and I'm so far enjoying it. I've been surprised by a few characters though. C'baoth, Doriana and Lorana are all different from how I'd previously imagined them. <div onClick="openClose('4bf70f7dcf265764cfdef5fc18e22424')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="4bf70f7dcf265764cfdef5fc18e22424" style="display:none">C'baoth's more like his clone than I previously thought he would be, Doriana is nothing but a pawn without a clue, and Lorana... well, I really had no ideas about her since all we had to go off of were Dean's memories in SQ, but I wasn't expecting her to be so lacking in self-confidence. It's just not something you (I?) expect from a Jedi.</div> I think I'm starting to see the reason the colonists didn't like the Jedi, too. I could be wrong though, and I usually am when I comes to these things. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif