Luke Skywalker

[Javen]

Since Luke was the son of the chosen one, was he more powerful then Yoda even though he had very little training?

[Sgt_Jedi]

In the future, possibly. But he is definitely not more powerful than Yoda at the end of ROTJ. Luke was probably weaker than Anakin in AOTC there.

[Lord Laviathan]

Luke is not more powerful than Master Yoda, Maybe in time he can be, but remember in AOTC yoda can deflect the darkside lightning attack Luke cannot in ROTJ. Yoda has vast knowledge and skill, Luke still has a long way to go. And the force is strong in the Skywalker family Anakin was and Luke will be.

[RedMirax]

I think Yoda had more knowledge of the Force and so, knew how to use it. He had 900 years worth of studying and practicing.


Luke will learn and perhaps be more powerful in time.

[Vibroblade]

What do you mean by more powerful? More potential ability or more skill?

If you mean potential than perhaps Luke was the strongest of the lot.

If you mean skill then Yoda hands down.

[Javen]

More potential yes, anyway it was a thought I had because he was the son of the chosen one and was wondering what everyone else thought.

[Swamprat_Jedi_Knight]

Not this agian. LOL style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[Tovor]

I always thought it worth noting that Yoda told Luke, "Difficult to see, always in motion the future is." He said it with certainty, yet he appeared surprised that Luke had seen so clearly into the future to the city in the clouds where his friends were in pain. Had Luke seen more clearly into the future than Yoda was able to, or was Yoda merely A) holding back from revealing the extended danger he saw in the future or B) testing Luke to see what choice he would make or how much more he could see without a straight answer from Yoda? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

[RedMirax]

I always thought he meant that there could be different conclusions to what Luke saw. Maybe things wouldn't end badly, maybe they would. The future is never certain.

[Lord Laviathan]

But yet if Luke could see so well he would be able to tell that him going there to cloud city would make no difference and it didnt, Yoda knew that if he went Vader would confront him that much is for sure. And he knew Luke wasnt ready either, Luke should not of been so reckless. Because of his selfishness he could have been lost to the Darkside, and also Luke didnt change the events there he only made them worse by putting himself,Leia,and Chewy in danger.

[The only one]

luke is by far the most powerful ever.

[X-3PO]

Yarael Poof is the most powerful ever! He just met an untimely death. http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif

[FerrisWiel]

Incorrect, Lavithan.

Had Luke not gone to Bespin, the Leia, Chewie and Lando would have been killed or captured. R2-D2, who Luke brought to Cloud City, opened the door and made it possible for the Millenium Falcon to jump to hyperspace.

So, he did the right thing.

ADD:
Perfect puzzle pieces fitting together. Another reason why OT beats PT.

--Ferris Wiel

[Darth Fabulous]

Unless R2 could have gone alone in the X-wing, which once again proves my theory that R2-D2 is the real Chosen One!

[FerrisWiel]

Can't deny that.

"If a droid could think, would any of us be here?"
-Obi Wan

R2's thinking made the entire "saga" possible.

--Ferris Wiel

[X-3PO]

Ferris, your new spinning wheel is mesmerizing. It's really a hypnotic device to control others isn't it?

[FerrisWiel]

I admit nothing. Join the Imperialist Party.

--Ferris Wiel

[X-3PO]

Whoa! Let's not start any more fights! http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/sally/tongue.gif

[FerrisWiel]

I was joking! You mentioned mesmerism/hypnotism, I just mentioned powers of suggestion.

--Ferris Wiel

[X-3PO]

No no I understand, I was just joking. Just having a little poke at your "disagreement" earlier.

[Jacen Solo]

Originally posted by Darth Fabulous@Dec 2 2002, 12:18 PM
Unless R2 could have gone alone in the X-wing, which once again proves my theory that R2-D2 is the real Chosen One!
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'><span style="color:silver">YES!! Artoo is the hero of Star Wars -- George Lucas has even said so!!

Just a thought ... Anakin was nowhere near as powerful as Yoda when they confronted Count Dooku. But I do think that if Darth Vader had found Yoda on Dagobah, it would not have been good for the old Jedi Master.</span></font>

[spaceman2386]

Luke it time my have more power then yoda but yoda will always have more wisdom then Luke. which in my mind makes him more powerful.

[Bandet]

In time Luke probly and with correct training be more powerfull then Yoda but in a long time so since wisdom is strenge Yoda kiks butt.

and as for R2-D2 i wonder why he always looks the same from the Ep1 to Ep6 he looks the same hes not outdated or had anyupgrades yet c3p0 did have various changes. Thats funny.

[Javen]

Probably because R2 has only fell once or jumped off the Barge in ROTJ, and C-3PO always finds himself in a complete mess somehow.

[X-3PO]

Plus R2 is shorter, so it's harder to hit him with a blaster.

[Raganork8]

Luke is not the most powerfull or second most powerfull the only reason he was alive was because vader would never kill him.

[Javen]

Ok raganork so why not? Vader could have killed him in ESB, he even cut his hand off.So how do you know he wouldn't have killed him. We would never know because decided to jump down a shaft instead.

You don't think Vader was just swinging his lightsaber to miss him did you?

[Mothman]

Originally posted by Javen@Nov 27 2002, 04:37 PM
Since Luke was the son of the chosen one, was he more powerful then Yoda even though he had very little training?
Luke was more powerful. If Yoda was more powerful, why didn't he just go and fix everything before Episode IV ever took place? Why did Yoda and Obi-Wan have to wait for Luke to grow up? If they were so powerful, they could have just gone and put the whole galaxy back together again. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

[Obidobi]

Originally posted by Mothman+Dec 22 2002, 10:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mothman @ Dec 22 2002, 10:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Nov 27 2002, 04:37 PM
Since Luke was the son of the chosen one, was he more powerful then Yoda even though he had very little training?
Luke was more powerful. If Yoda was more powerful, why didn't he just go and fix everything before Episode IV ever took place? Why did Yoda and Obi-Wan have to wait for Luke to grow up? If they were so powerful, they could have just gone and put the whole galaxy back together again. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif [/b][/quote]
Luke wasn't more powerful because of that......
Nobody would have taken down the Emperor and Vader alone.....
Not Yoda, not Obi-wan and not Luke if it wasn't for his relation with Vader.....
Yoda nor any other jedi would have the chance against two Sith......

Vader wasn't completely driven to the dark side....It was still good in him....And it was the love of his son who made him come back to the good side....
when that happened, the Emperor was alone with 2 strong jedi....Luke and Anakin.....
He was doomed......!

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[Princess_Tranquility]

very true Obidobi it was the love of his son that made Anakin turn back to the light, but if you remember the line that Anakin made in AOTC while at his mother's grave:

I wasn't strong enough to save you mom...

...but I promise you I will not fail again.

That there was another reason that I think Anakin saved Luke, he wasn't strong enough and he got there to late to save his mother, but he kept that promise to her for 20 years. And then when Luke was being killed he fulfilled it.

As far as Luke's strength in the Force, we all know that supposidly Anakin is the chosen one, but that has yet to be proved, none of the Jedi have ever come out and said that he is definitly the chosen one, how do we know Luke wasn't? How do we know the chosen one has ever appeared?

There's a lot of stuff in the EU that proves that Luke was by far more the chosen one then his father.

There were a lot of prophocies concerining both Luke and Leia, made by the Jedi who had existed during the Sith Wars. Several of them made by Boda-Baas and his master.

There was also several statements that pertained to Leia, how do we know that she was not the chosen one?

PT

[mrnapier]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>There's a lot of stuff in the EU that proves that Luke was by far more the chosen one then his father.[/b][/quote]

When it comes to wisdom: yes

When it comes to skill: I'm not so sure

[PhantomX]

Originally posted by Princess_Tranquility@Aug 28 2003, 12:26 AM
There was also several statements that pertained to Leia, how do we know that she was not the chosen one?

PT
She didn't really do very much..

[bluemilk]

Leia is equally force sensitive as Luke because, wait for it.....


they're twins! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif whoo..betcha didn't see THAT coming style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif However Leia didn't use her potential and hone her skills because she was much like her father and had a lot of anger within her.

Anakin was the most powerful jedi ever since he was created by the force. As for skill, that's subjective.

[Darth Barrister]

Yoda is more powerful as a sage, teacher, and "cleric" of the force.

Luke, in time, would be a more powerful Jedi Knight/Warrior.

[bodhisattva yoda]

in time, luke will be dead. yoda is what, eight-hundred years old or something? luke will never be able to acquire that kind of experience.

[mrnapier]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>However Leia didn't use her potential and hone her skills because she was much like her father and had a lot of anger within her.[/b][/quote]

I think Leia was aware of something, but not aware of the force, she had no knowledge about that.

[mrnapier]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>As for skill, that's subjective. [/b][/quote]

Then why did anakin lost his hand in the duel with Dooku?
I think skill is very important, someone talented can learn much faster then someone who is not.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by bluemilk@Sep 10 2003, 03:50 PM
Leia is equally force sensitive as Luke because, wait for it.....


they're twins!
No dice there, they'd have to be identicle twins, obviously they are not.

[Darth Barrister]

Are you sure TK?

Seriously,


Luke is very skilled as a pilot, swordsman and all around warrior. Just like his father. However, Yoda's years of experience make him wiser.

However, in a duel, I think I'd go with the tall guy (even though yoda can do the hyper attack from ATOC).

[Darth Abaddon]

Yoda was wiser than any other Jedi simply because of his age. He was extremely powerfully and full embodied the wisdom of "size matters not." Whether Luke was more powerful than him is something that I think would depend on what was passed down to him by his father. Yes, he was the son of the chosen one and due to this the Skywalker family is strong in the force but how strong? As Qui-gon said in TPM Anakin had more midi-chlorian's than any Jedi, even Yoda. In that respects Anakin would have more power than Yoda given time. But this does not shed any light onto whether Luke's midi-chlorian count would be the same.

I think in order to answer this question we would need to find out how much of Anakin's powers would have been passed to his son, he did after all have a non-force sensitive mother!

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by Darth Abaddon@Oct 23 2003, 05:48 PM
I think in order to answer this question we would need to find out how much of Anakin's powers would have been passed to his son, he did after all have a non-force sensitive mother!
It would also be prudent to find out if (and I do stress if) Anakin was in fact more powerful than Yoda. Just because his cells have the highest midichlorian count doesn't mean he's the most powerful - number's matter not, judge Yoda by his numbers do you? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Darth Vegas]

I think that's exactly what it means, Anakin being the chosen one, the only person who can destroy the Sith and all. Of course Yoda has more experience but, if he were more powerful than Anakin, why'd he sit around for 20 years?

[Mark Skywalker]

Originally posted by Javen@Nov 27 2002, 01:37 PM
Since Luke was the son of the chosen one, was he more powerful then Yoda even though he had very little training?
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In ROTJ, his powers became stronger , In The EU Luke indeed became more Powerful than, Yoda his Father, & Obi-Wan. And he became a Jedi Master which Anakin did not until he died in ROTJ. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[Sarah-Leia]

Since Luke was the son of the chosen one, was he more powerful then Yoda even though he had very little training?

I don't think so. As you said, he had very little training.

[Solo]

I have to say one thing here. Anakin did whatever he was told either right or wrong. He somehow ended with the job fulfilled. And he usually did this without anyone's help. I am not backing up the things he did, but frankly speaking if I wanted something to be done, I'd rather ask Anakin than Luke.

Luke usually needed help or even if he didn't need help, there were still some people helping him. He messed some of the things. Acted too early on some occasions. In my opinion the biggest achievement of Luke was to make Vader remember the good part in him. That was the only occasion he acted alone.

He may be the son of chosen one, but I do not think he is more powerful than Yoda.