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Raganork8
11-24-2002, 01:22 PM
i just got through reading FROM THE ADVENTURES OF LUKE SKYWALKER:A NEW HOPE, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI.It's classified sometimes as cannon but i mean ANH was written by goerge lucas right ? so it CAN'T be cannon. personally i liked it in each book it gives detailed discriptions of deleted scenes from the movie. how did you like it?

Brian
11-24-2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by raganork8@Nov 24 2002, 12:22 PM
i just got through reading FROM THE ADVENTURES OF LUKE SKYWALKER:A NEW HOPE, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI.It's classified sometimes as cannon but i mean ANH was written by goerge lucas right ? so it CAN'T be cannon. personally i liked it in each book it gives detailed discriptions of deleted scenes from the movie. how did you like it?
Nathan Butler's Star Wars Timeline Gold (http://www.starwarz.com/timeline/) can provide insight on levels of canon.

FYI, the book, Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster; he just published the book under the pen name "George Lucas". GL is definitely not a writer!

Raganork8
11-24-2002, 01:55 PM
REALLY?!!?!?!?!?!!? awww man thanxs OBG i can always count on you for clarification.

Darth Vegas
11-24-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Nov 24 2002, 09:48 AM
GL is definitely not a writer!
O-B-Gates, GL co wrote a betselling book which was on the New York Times best sellers for several weeks, I will find the book andgive you the title, but it was a very good book, IMO.

Justin
11-24-2002, 03:04 PM
He just made up the story, he didn't actually write anything.

Darth Vegas
11-24-2002, 03:06 PM
No, he actually did write the book, I should know, I own it, I just have to find it.

Brian
11-24-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Nov 24 2002, 02:06 PM
No, he actually did write the book, I should know, I own it, I just have to find it.
It says that he wrote the book on the cover, but he actually didn't write it. I can believe that he co-wrote it, but it's doubtful. I think, like Justin said, he made up the story, but he didn't actually pen the novel.

Man, where is Nathan Butler when you need him?

James
11-24-2002, 03:59 PM
What!!!!!!!!!!!

GL didn't write ANH, i always thought he did!!!!!!

That's very wierd… ???

James T. Skywalker
11-24-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Nov 24 2002, 11:13 AM
Man, where is Nathan Butler when you need him?
Probably grading papers. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

O-B-GATES, you are correct. The original novelization of the novel that corresponds to what we now refer to as Star Wars: Episode IV--A New Hope was ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster under George Lucas's name.

The novel, which was called Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, was released a full year before the release of the film in 1977. Thus, the name of the novel is different from that of the film (which was just called Star Wars when it was released). The title A New Hope wasn't put into the film until 1981, after the sequel to the 1977 release, The Empire Strikes Back, was released in 1980. Then, the next year, Lucasfilm and Twentieth Century Fox re-released the original film, with the new title Episode IV--A New Hope.

~James T. Skywalker

FerrisWiel
11-24-2002, 06:38 PM
Too right. Foster wrote the Star Wars novelization and also the novelization for what would have been the sequel, Splinter of the Mind's Eye.

--Ferris Wiel

RedMirax
11-24-2002, 06:43 PM
To be technical, George DID write ANH, ESB, and RotJ. He didn't right the novelization, but the story is his. Just as the TPM and AOTC novels were written by other authors. The stories are George's creations, just not in text form. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

FerrisWiel
11-24-2002, 07:03 PM
Right, Red. But the debate sprang over GL writing the novelization (for which he is credited) of Star Wars.

--Ferris Wiel

James
11-24-2002, 11:32 PM
I want to see Special Edition books for ANH, ESB and RTOJ.

They should be laid out with as teh TPM and ATOC ones are: they'd 'fit in' better…

Brian
11-26-2002, 09:55 AM
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Nathan Butler
11-26-2002, 11:28 AM
You summoned me, my leige?

All of the SW films feature stories by Lucas. The scripts have often had a second or third hand in them, though, such as Bracket, Hales, and so forth.

Of the novelizations, none were written by Lucas himself. The ANH one is credited to him, but ghostwritten by Foster, as has been said.

Lucasfilm authorized Foster to write Splinter of the Mind's Eye as a sequel to ANH before Lucas got the go-ahead on ESB. That backstory is covered in ChronoRadio: Special Edition I: The Canon Question, if you're interested in hearing it.

The term "From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker," though, is more telling than you might realize.

Remember, originally, Lucas thought he'd only be ABLE to make one film. Now, he says there are six, and before that, he said there were nine.

But . . . before that, between the release of the original film and when ESB became "Episode V" in the draft-writing process, it was to be a TWELVE-episode saga, STARTING with what we call ANH, and focusing on the adventures of LUKE, not Anakin.

You can see the SWT-G's appendices file for that, under "Understanding the Lost Episodes."

loserjames
11-27-2002, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Nov 24 2002, 01:57 PM
O-B-Gates, GL co wrote a betselling book which was on the New York Times best sellers for several weeks, I will find the book andgive you the title, but it was a very good book, IMO.
I think you're talking about 'The Chronicle of Shadow.' He's only credited for the story...

ihatebobafett
05-21-2005, 08:10 AM
Could someone tell me what the quote from Bail Organa is from The Journal of the Whills? You know, at the beginning of the novel?

Thanks!

Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)
05-21-2005, 08:25 AM
"They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes"

But it's actually Leia who is quoted, not Bail.

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ihatebobafett
05-21-2005, 09:34 AM
Thanks! I couldn't remember for the life of me, I couldn't even remember who said it!

Master Shrive
05-21-2005, 09:48 AM
On another note, I've just got this novel in my next stack to read. Is there only one version of ANH in novel form, or is there junior and senior versions. I only ask because the one I've got was in the junior section of the library and it says its by GL.

Ithorian guy
05-21-2005, 12:50 PM
the one that says by GL is the original adult version. (actually Alan Dean Foster ghost wrote it.)

The junion version just came out around last summer

Master Shrive
05-23-2005, 02:19 AM
^So there is a more "complete" version out so to speak that would be more worth the read.

gforce99
05-23-2005, 10:02 AM
Which version is better? I don't think I have ever read A New Hope (I feel so terrible!).

Ithorian guy
05-23-2005, 06:15 PM
THe original 1976 version. Even though it is FULL of EU contridictions, because it came out before the EU, and even the movie for that matter.

gforce99
05-24-2005, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Ithorian guy@May 23 2005, 05:15 PM
THe original 1976 version. Even though it is FULL of EU contridictions, because it came out before the EU, and even the movie for that matter.
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Can you still by the 1976 version or is the NewSpeak version the only one?

Galahad_Skywalker
05-24-2005, 04:38 PM
There's a mass trade paperback entitled "The Star Wars Trilogy" that contains all three of the original novelizations for the original movies:

Star Wars Trilogy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345384385/qid=1116959704/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/002-6432968-1427223)

I've been fortunate enough to stumble across all three of the original paperbacks at various garage sales over the years. My Empire Strikes Back novel is even a first edition. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Ithorian guy
05-24-2005, 06:00 PM
That's how i found my originals. I even have the rare original '76 (before the movie even went into theaters) edition. the one with the regular letters and with the vader concept art on the cover.

Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)
05-25-2005, 01:16 AM
*sigh*

I bought mine at the time they were released...

Galahad_Skywalker
05-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Mine were all banged up when I first got them, but they are the part of my collection that I'm proudest about.

smudger9
05-27-2005, 09:48 AM
Are the OT books worth reading???
Ive just bought the EPIII novel because of all of the omitted scenes from the film... are there similar bits in the OT that are covered by the novels but do not appear in the films?

Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)
05-27-2005, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by smudger9@May 27 2005, 09:48 PM
Are the OT books worth reading???
Ive just bought the EPIII novel because of all of the omitted scenes from the film... are there similar bits in the OT that are covered by the novels but do not appear in the films?
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Each novelisation has some additional insights, but none as much as the Ep III novelisation, though.

The RotJ has a couple of interesting passages: one referring to Owen Lars as Obi-wan's brother, but more interestingly another about Vader's thoughts as he is making the big decision to return to the light. Touching stuff, particularly now that we have more backstory.

Ithorian guy
05-27-2005, 01:48 PM
And also in the RotJ novel, the Emperor knew that Yoda was still alive.

gforce99
05-27-2005, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Ithorian guy@May 27 2005, 12:48 PM
And also in the RotJ novel, the Emperor knew that Yoda was still alive.
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Wow, a OT novel that doesn't conflict with the Prequels. Amazing. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Tresk Im'nel
05-29-2005, 12:49 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Can you still by the 1976 version or is the NewSpeak version the only one?[/b][/quote]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>There's a mass trade paperback entitled "The Star Wars Trilogy" that contains all three of the original novelizations for the original movies:[/b][/quote]

They've actually just reissued the original OT novelisations as separate books with cover art based on the DVD covers for each movie. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I'm hoping they'll do the same for the prequels next year... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>That's how i found my originals. I even have the rare original '76 (before the movie even went into theaters) edition. the one with the regular letters and with the vader concept art on the cover.[/b][/quote]

I just got the original edition paperbacks of ESB and ROTJ, along with the paperback of ANH that coincided with the film's release, at a used book store a couple months ago. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif Maybe I should try looking for the original edition of ANH just for the sake of having all the originals... Then again, I'm "not much of a collector," or so I tell myself... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif And they are all the editions that coincided with the films... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)
05-29-2005, 01:27 AM
It doesn't say "A New Hope" on the cover, though, does it... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Tresk Im'nel
05-29-2005, 04:17 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't say "A New Hope" on the cover, though, does it...[/b][/quote]

No, I just use "ANH" because it's less confusing than "SW." style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif It does say "From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker" on the cover, though. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Valin Kenobi
05-30-2005, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by Tresk Im'nel@May 28 2005, 09:49 PM
They've actually just reissued the original OT novelisations as separate books with cover art based on the DVD covers for each movie. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I'm hoping they'll do the same for the prequels next year... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
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I forgot about those. I should pick them up. I bought the original versions of ESB and ROTJ used, but it would be nice to have all three with consistent covers.

I'm hesistant about replacing my PT novelizations, though. I have hardbacks and paperbacks of the first two, and the HB of ROTS (no PB yet obviously) so I can put them in their respective timelines, HB and PB. Assuming I ever had them all together at the same time, of course. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif The best I can ever get shelved and ordered at once is about 50%. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

But in the end I bet I would cave and get reissued PT ones for consistency's sake. Not to replace my others, but to supplement for whatever reason.

Galahad_Skywalker
05-30-2005, 07:19 PM
I learned about the recent reissues as soon as I posted the Amazon link, but I forgot to say anything about it. I'm not a huge fan of the DVD artwork on the saga DVDs, and so if I didn't already have the original tie-ins, I would've just bought the three-in-one copy (besides, it's cheaper style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif). I originally intended to have all six in paperback, but after the full trailer for ROTS and plenty of word of mouth about Stover's writing ability, I sprang for the ROTS hardcover, and ruined the presentation. Oh, well. I think I'll live after the bloody good time I had reading ROTS. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif