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qui-riv-brid
06-19-2002, 09:46 PM
Have you all noticed how in EP 1 and 2 it is Sith this and Sith
that all over the place but in the OT there is not one! one!
reference to the Sith. This is not some slight of hand that can be looked over. I would be shocked if it were not adressed
in the Ultimate Editions.
How to do it? well you could add a new scene in ANH between Vader and the Emperor where he says he senses OBI and as they banter they mention the power of the Sith.
In ESB the opening scrawl says lord Dath Vader (small l)
you could change that to Sith Lord, or Lord of the Sith
Darth Vader and also add to the Vader/Emperor scene
in the movie.
In ROTJ you again could add new Vader Emperor Scenes
or get James Earl Jones to redub some of Vader's lines.
I'm thinking on the Endor moon when Luke gives himself up
instead of Vader saying over and over the power of the dark side it could be changed to the power of the Sith.
Lots of possibilities.
NelsonCoressel
06-19-2002, 10:53 PM
Doesn't "lord" say it all? If "Sith" is said a lot in the first half of the story, maybe it doesn't have to be emphasized in the last half.
Winston_Sith
06-20-2002, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by qui-riv-brid@June 19 2002 - 20:46
Have you all noticed how in EP 1 and 2 it is Sith this and Sith
that all over the place but in the OT there is not one! one!
reference to the Sith. This is not some slight of hand that can be looked over. I would be shocked if it were not adressed
in the Ultimate Editions.
As far as I have ever known; and I've been with SW for a few decades (i.e. from the first release of what came to be known as 'A New Hope'), Darth Vader was (as the trading cards said) a 'Dark Lord of the Sith"... whatever that meant (at the time).
Now I know (and you did not, even after watchign TPM and AotC?), even excluding all that EU B.S...
Uncle George is NOT "F"ing with us!!!
He's telling us THE BACKSTORY!!!
qui-riv-brid
06-20-2002, 08:57 PM
To Winston-Sith
I realize that the backstory always had the Sith. The point is the movies did not and remember anything not in the movies
is not official (Lars is OBI's brother everyone knew that because Lucas said so 20 years ago in an interview and the lines were cut out of ROTJ when Ben told Luke "I took you to live with my brother Owen on Tatooine"-WRONG cause AOTC
said so)
My point is that if Lucas wants it to be a real 6 part story
it is tough when even OBI-WAN can't remember the bad guys
team name (I'm being partially pedantic so do not take it personally. I am just trying to rile you up.)
RollaFett
06-20-2002, 10:59 PM
I agree with Winston_Sith. The word "sith" has been in the Star Wars vocabulary since it's earliest inceptions. I just peaked at the novelization of the first Star Wars, and when Vader first makes his appearance, it states, "Two meters tall. Bipedal. Flowing black robes trailing from the figure and a face forever masked by a functional if bizarre black metal breath screen-a Dark Lord of the Sith was an awesome, threatening shape as it strode through the corriders of the rebel ship."
Now those of you who know me, know I don't usually call upon the EU to support my points, but this isn't exactly something pulled from oblivion. Sith was mentioned long ago. The fact that GL failed to bring it up in the OT bothers me a little, but not too much. I really think that mentioning the Sith in the OT served no purpose. At that time, there was no Jedi Council trying to figure out who the Sith were, where were they, and how did they come back. Why clutter Luke's mind with all of that when all that really mattered was that he didn't become one. The fact that it was only referred to as "The Dark Side" is fine with me. In AOTC, it is referred by that many times as well.
QuigonWindu
06-21-2002, 04:34 PM
I think they said sith in the OT novels.
Darth Jesus
06-22-2002, 01:08 AM
By the way, Winston, you by far have the best nic on this board (assuming it's supposed to be a mix of 1984's Winston Smith and the Sith, and not a case of your first name being Winston).
Winston_Sith
06-24-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Darth Jesus@June 22 2002 - 00:08
By the way, Winston, you by far have the best nic on this board.
Why, thank you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
(assuming it's supposed to be a mix of 1984's Winston Smith and the Sith, and not a case of your first name being Winston)
You got it!
Two of my favorite things... together at last. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
NelsonCoressel
06-24-2002, 08:18 AM
Yeah, I also chuckled to myself at how clever the name "Winston Sith" is. It's like George Orwell with a lisp! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
RollaFett
06-24-2002, 11:08 PM
Don't I feel like the odd man out. :hmmm:
Please, if you feel so inclined, explain the Winston Sith name. :whatsthat:
Tyranus
06-25-2002, 01:10 AM
Yeah that would be cool, since they really never mentioned Sith lords.
NelsonCoressel
06-25-2002, 08:17 AM
Golla, in George Orwell's novel 1984 the main character is named Winston Smith.
So I assume Winston Sith is a Star Warsy variation on that name, with all the Dark Side and political implications that the name suggests.
RollaFett
07-01-2002, 12:17 AM
Nelson- Thank you. I have never read that novel. In fact, I have never read any of Orwell's work. But maybe I will now be inspired to broaden my horizons. Probably not, but you never know, right? :whatsthat:
Winston_Sith
07-01-2002, 03:27 AM
GollaFett,June 24 2002 - 22:08]Please, if you feel so inclined, explain the Winston Sith name. :whatsthat:
Well, In 1984, Winston (*Smith*) is turned into yet anther cog in the Machine known as 'the Party', through means of his deepest FEAR (rats, either real or imagined).
Now, I don't know exactly how Anakin Skywalker actually falls to the Dark Side and becomes Darth Vader (a *Sith* Lord), a cog in the Machine known as 'the Empire', but I assume that its begining had more than a little to do with Anakin's FEAR of losing his mother, among other things; maybe Anakins' FEAR will allow him to betray his true love Padme, as Winston betrayed his true love Julia?
(Sorry to blow the ending, if you're really going to read the book...)
RollaFett
07-01-2002, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the thourough explanation Winston. Don't worry about giving away the ending, I probably won't read it. Hell, I have books that i bought 3 years ago that I've never opened. :whatsthat:
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