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Slashdot87
11-19-2002, 06:25 PM
Has anyone else heard a rumor that Lucas will add Jar Jar to ANH? I also heard a similar rumor about Padme being added to ROTJ. Is there any truth to those rumors or has anyone else heard these rumors.

Mothman
11-19-2002, 07:38 PM
There is a "Padme in ROTJ" thread here. I just bumped it up.

Regarding Jar Jar, GL couldn't be THAT stupid! I think he showed his acknowledgement of his Jar Jar error by giving him very little screen time in AOTC, and especially when Padme cut him off mid-sentence in the apartment scene.

RollaFett
11-19-2002, 10:22 PM
Yeah, plus there would be no point to adding him. He should either die in EPIII or be in between EPIII and IV. Period.

Momin327
11-19-2002, 10:32 PM
I hope he'll show up... as a rotting corpse.

RollaFett
11-20-2002, 10:29 PM
Heh, heh...yeah.

Obi-Stu
11-21-2002, 09:37 AM
I heard that GL said that Jar Jar wouild die but he wouldn't give us the satisfaction of seeing it on screen.

jedisaber
11-21-2002, 12:10 PM
well if georgie knew that people in our u dont like jar jar, then when jarjar give the chsncellor more power why does gl make all the other senators cheer his name

Jedi D'oh
11-21-2002, 01:06 PM
Because the senate agreed with the motion. Simple as that. Jar Jar is pure evil. He ends up being the cause for the downfall of the republic.

mtilden
11-21-2002, 03:26 PM
Regarding Jar Jar, GL couldn't be THAT stupid! I think he showed his acknowledgement of his Jar Jar error by giving him very little screen time in AOTC, and especially when Padme cut him off mid-sentence in the apartment scene.


A brilliant instance of mind reading here! By the same logic, George "acknowledged his mistake" of inventing Artoo and Threepio by giving them much smaller roles in the TESB and ROTJ (not to mention the prequels!) than they had in ANH. And of course, he acknowledged how stupid and worthless 3PO is in Empire when he had Leia shut him off midsentence. Let us not forget, he also 'acknowledged his error' with Lando by giving him a less central role in ROTJ than he had in TESB. Hmmmmm..... or perhaps your mindreading skills aren't as polished as you believe? God, I am so sick of all this whining about Jar Jar. Please people, grow up!
And, in actual answer to the question, there is no truth whateve to the rumors that Padme, Jar Jar, Bail Organa or whoever being added to ANH. Everyone is operating under the assumption that there is going to be some kind of radical transformation of the OT when it comes to DVD, as far as I can see, there is absolutely no basis for this assumption.

Brian
11-21-2002, 08:05 PM
Perhaps GL will just add Gungans to ANH and not necessarily everyone's favorite Gungan, Jar Jar Binks.

~OBG

bodhisattva yoda
11-22-2002, 08:19 PM
george will probably add a scene of the senate being 'dismantled'... jar jar may appear there with all the other senators.

Darth Vegas
11-23-2002, 06:03 AM
We could learn in ANHUE that Jar Jar was on Alderaan, and that Tarkin decided to deystroy the planet, simply because of that.

The Death Star could've even targeted Jar Jar, and the planet just blew up with him.

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Lord Laviathan
11-26-2002, 08:54 PM
I hope Jar Jar does die and we get to see it that would make that would make my day. But i dont think hell be shown in any of the OT.

Vexis D'Vaurion
11-29-2002, 05:08 AM
such hatred for stupity and GL's attempt to attract children... I knew i belonged here!!!! I will never watch Star Wars: A New Hope again if I even catch a glimpse of a gungan....

Aurra Sing
11-29-2002, 03:13 PM
NOOOO! That ain't gonna happen. Over my dead body.

QuigonWindu
11-29-2002, 03:25 PM
Why do you all hate Jar-Jar. He's one of the best characters of the pt. And the saga as a whole. I'd love to see him, and Watto, in ANH.

Luminara Skye
11-29-2002, 05:28 PM
I've read that all the rumors of Padme being in ROTJ, Bail Organa being in ANH, etc., are a bunch of hogwash. I really wouldn't want GL to mess anymore with the OT. Not that I dislike Jar-Jar, in moderation he isn't that bad. But I've heard that he will die in Ep. III--I don't know how accurate that is, though. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Darth Vegas
11-29-2002, 06:20 PM
Luminara the Bail Organa in ANH "rumor" came from the mouth of George Lucas himself.

QuigonWindu
11-29-2002, 07:22 PM
OOh that'd be cool I hope he is in ANH.

Luminara Skye
12-03-2002, 08:18 AM
....but it's not relevant to the story. I just don't see where it necessary. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif

Obi-Wan
12-03-2002, 09:31 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>That would be cool. I hope Jar Jar is in ANH. He's one of my fave characters. I didn't like he was only in AOTC for a little bit. He should have been in it more than Anakin.</font>

Rogue_Jedi
12-03-2002, 02:25 PM
I don't find it necessary for Jar-Jar and Bail to be in ANH. What would be the point? Besides, why would GL want to go back and re-make the Special Edition?

Besides, I heard the Padme/ROTJ rumor was confirmed as being un-true at these forums.

Luminara Skye
12-03-2002, 10:48 PM
Rick McCallum said on TOS that the Padme in ROTJ rumor is not true. So I figure it's official. ???

X-3PO
12-04-2002, 02:01 AM
The only thing I would like to see replaced in the special edition is that horrid Jabba the Hutt! Good god that thing looks like a shaven rat! I want the CGI Jabba from TPM. That is really the only thing that I would like to see changed in the SE. (And maybe Greedo shooting first!)

Brian
12-04-2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Nov 29 2002, 05:20 PM
Luminara the Bail Organa in ANH "rumor" came from the mouth of George Lucas himself.
GL said jokingly, that he would add a scene to ANH where Jimmy Smits (Bail Organa) was looking up at the Death Star from down on Alderraan and yelling, "Nooooooooooooo!!!" just as the planet is about to get blown away. That's where that rumor came from. [paraphrased]

~OBG

stormtrooper9
04-24-2004, 03:19 PM
This is a spoiler read at own risk!

Made small a posiball so it's harder to read for people who don't want to know what might happen.

I believe the reasion for Jar Jar is so there would be a brainless person that can be blamed for the Empire I heard that Jar Jar lets Palpatine rise to power.
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Darth Darthy
04-24-2004, 03:23 PM
He already did in AOTC. Jar Jar is not in ANH. And if anyboy says "Prove it" then my answer is - "Your lack of common sense is your weakness".

stormtrooper9
04-24-2004, 03:24 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif I forgot!

Darth Palpy
04-24-2004, 04:25 PM
I believe the reasion for Jar Jar is so there would be a brainless person that can be blamed for the Empire I heard that Jar Jar lets Palpatine rise to power.

Jar Jar is an innocent, used by a corrupt politician (who wants to bring an end to corruption) to further his own agenda...nothing to do with being brainless. Just because people seem to despise this fictional character does not mean that the character is brainless...unfortunately, most missed the boat when it came to understanding Jar Jar's purpose, they're too busy spouting hate on forum after forum, not thinking that the only brainless ones are them for having so much REAL hate for what is, after all, a character in a MOVIE !

Note : This is not an attack on anyone here, just a generalisation of the insanity that has swept SW `fandom` since 1999.

stormtrooper9
04-24-2004, 04:40 PM
I don't hate Jar Jar! When I said brainless I meant some one who does not use it a lot just look at Esp. 1 for Ex. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

kngalaric
04-24-2004, 11:20 PM
I would like to see a beginning scene like this in EP III:

Jar Jar: Whoosa there? Ani, Ani?

[bzooom] lightsaber from the dark as Jar Jar's head rolls on the floor.

I'd jump faster than Yoda with a lightsaber.

stormtrooper9
04-24-2004, 11:29 PM
No Jar Jar should live at lease in to the first 30 MIN. and this is about ANH not Esp.3.

DarthAnakin
04-25-2004, 04:13 AM
NOOOOOOOOO Jar Jar must die in EpIII!!!

stormtrooper9
04-25-2004, 01:45 PM
I just said he must live for the first 30Mins of the show.

Obitwokenobi
04-25-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Brian+Dec 4 2002, 09:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 4 2002, 09:36 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Nov 29 2002, 05:20 PM
Luminara the Bail Organa in ANH "rumor" came from the mouth of George Lucas himself.
GL said jokingly, that he would add a scene to ANH where Jimmy Smits (Bail Organa) was looking up at the Death Star from down on Alderraan and yelling, "Nooooooooooooo!!!" just as the planet is about to get blown away. That's where that rumor came from. [paraphrased]

~OBG [/b][/quote]
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif That's stinkin' hilarious!

stormtrooper9
04-25-2004, 02:28 PM
Okay......................?

DarthAnakin
04-25-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Obitwokenobi+Apr 25 2004, 12:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Obitwokenobi @ Apr 25 2004, 12:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Brian@Dec 4 2002, 09:36 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Nov 29 2002, 05:20 PM
Luminara the Bail Organa in ANH "rumor" came from the mouth of George Lucas himself.
GL said jokingly, that he would add a scene to ANH where Jimmy Smits (Bail Organa) was looking up at the Death Star from down on Alderraan and yelling, "Nooooooooooooo!!!" just as the planet is about to get blown away. That's where that rumor came from. [paraphrased]

~OBG
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif That's stinkin' hilarious! [/b][/quote]
Yes. yes it is!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Obi-Stu
04-26-2004, 04:46 AM
I heard GL state in an interview that he blames most of the Jar Jar hate hype on the internet.

I really don't think we will see Jar Jar in ANH - no reason for it to happen.

DarthAnakin
04-26-2004, 10:32 AM
^ Well good, we have nothing to worry about then.

Dutch
04-26-2004, 02:53 PM
Look at it this way:

Jar Jar had hardly any screen time in Ep II and I think McCallum admitted that he will probably have less in Ep. III.

Why, therefore, do people believe he would be in ANH? Where would he fit? Although, I would find it really funny if George did this JUST to piss off the whiners.

Sidious, maybe. Of all the PT characters he would feel the least out of place in an added ANH scene. In fact, I kind of would like to see this just so the saga's main villian just doesn't disappear from sight for one whole movie.

Bail, slim to no chance, IMO.

Padme, highly unlikely, IMO.

Qui-Gon or Mace in hologram or ghost form, I'd bet the farm against this.


IF this rumor is true (and I kind of doubt it) I would have to say Sidious in some shape or form.

DarthAnakin
04-26-2004, 04:40 PM
^ I was very happy with Jar Jar's limited screen time in AOTC, and i'll be happier if he gets even less in EpIII.

stormtrooper9
04-26-2004, 04:48 PM
Why do you hate Jar-Jar so much? he is just a victim of Star Wars.

DarthAnakin
04-26-2004, 04:52 PM
^ I never said I hated him, just that im happy with him getting very limited screentime.

stormtrooper9
04-26-2004, 05:56 PM
But he funny.

general grievous
04-26-2004, 07:10 PM
if they add jar-jar to the ot that would be enough to stop me from buying the dvds

stormtrooper9
04-26-2004, 07:24 PM
I don't want him in the OT I was talking about Esp.3.

general grievous
04-26-2004, 07:32 PM
i didnt read the above posts but yeah i dont care if he's in e3
as long as its only for a couple of scenes, like e2

stormtrooper9
04-26-2004, 07:39 PM
He should have a larger part in Esp.3 more than Esp.2 but less then TPM.

DarthAnakin
04-26-2004, 08:55 PM
As long as he has equal to or less parts then he did in AOTC, I will be happy. And lets hope GL decided to keep him out of ANH.

stormtrooper9
04-27-2004, 06:07 PM
That would be hard to do he had less then a min.

Sluggo
04-27-2004, 06:29 PM
This is about the most illiterate thread I have ever stumbled through.

What does any of this mean? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

stormtrooper9
04-27-2004, 06:46 PM
Hours minutes seconds
Hours min. sec.


Hopes that helps.

DarthAnakin
04-27-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by stormtrooper9@Apr 27 2004, 04:07 PM
That would be hard to do he had less then a min.
I think he had more than a minute of screentime. No longer than a minute of lines though.

stormtrooper9
04-27-2004, 08:49 PM
Ok I don't remember that much of Esp.2

DarthAnakin
04-27-2004, 09:33 PM
^ I've seen it way too many times.

stormtrooper9
04-27-2004, 09:35 PM
What was Yoda's line at the end of the movie?

Was it "Begone, the clone wars have"

DarthAnakin
04-27-2004, 09:48 PM
" Begun, the Clone War has."

stormtrooper9
04-28-2004, 04:50 PM
Thanks.

DarthAnakin
04-28-2004, 09:43 PM
^ No prob, I watched it again last night. LOL style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

stormtrooper9
04-28-2004, 09:50 PM
Do you know how much I will pay to see it. (Well if I had any $)

DarthAnakin
04-28-2004, 09:55 PM
You haven't seen it? How come?

stormtrooper9
04-28-2004, 09:58 PM
I seen it once never had time to see it since.

DarthAnakin
04-28-2004, 10:01 PM
^ Oh ok, I thought you hadn't seen it at all, now that would suck.

stormtrooper9
04-28-2004, 10:29 PM
It does It's the olny one I seen once TPM 2 rest 3x of more.

stormtrooper9
04-28-2004, 10:32 PM
Why would GL want to put Jar Jar in ANH it would not work out.

DarthAnakin
04-30-2004, 01:00 AM
I wonder what the chances actually are that Jar Jar will be in ANH.

Obi-Stu
04-30-2004, 04:11 AM
Why?

Tell me what purpose it would serve, other than to be able to say "hey, that's Jar Jar."

stormtrooper9
04-30-2004, 10:43 AM
Nothing

DarthAnakin
04-30-2004, 11:44 AM
They should leave ANH the way it is.

Insane Protocol Droid
04-30-2004, 04:32 PM
i dunno. I always wanted Lucas to insert JarJar in a scene in ANH.

Something like this...

MOTTI: Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander, not to this battle
station!

TAGGE: The Rebellion will continue to gain a support in the Imperial
Senate as long as....


Suddenly all heads turn as Commander Tagge's speech is cut
short and the Grand Moff Tarkin, governor of the Imperial
outland regions, enters. He is followed by his powerful ally,
The Sith Lord, Darth Vader.

TARKIN: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us.
I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council
permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept
away.

TAGGE: That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control
without the bureaucracy?

TARKIN: The regional governors now have direct control over
territories.

CUT TO SHOT OF JAR-JAR SITTING AT TABLE, GRINNING EVILLY

TARKIN: Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this
battle station.


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DarthAnakin
04-30-2004, 06:42 PM
^ Haha that would be hilarious.

James
04-30-2004, 11:25 PM
No Jar Jar was what made TPM bad.

Darth Palpy
04-30-2004, 11:46 PM
No Jar Jar was what made TPM bad.

Was he ?...I quite enjoyed the film...must be that opinion thing again.

DarthAnakin
05-01-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by M. Perror Palpy@Apr 30 2004, 09:46 PM
No Jar Jar was what made TPM bad.

Was he ?...I quite enjoyed the film...must be that opinion thing again.
I completely agree with you, I really like TPM.

general grievous
05-01-2004, 08:08 PM
tpm was a good movie but it couldve used a little less jar-jar

DarthAnakin
05-02-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by general grievous@May 1 2004, 06:08 PM
tpm was a good movie but it couldve used a little less jar-jar
The only part that I really hated Jar Jar in was when they were under water going through the planets core.

Obitwokenobi
05-02-2004, 02:34 PM
If Jar Jar is in ANH, how about his head mounted on DV's wall? I liked JJB in TPM, but his voice became 10X as annoying (to me) in AotC... However, the real reason AotC was bad...:

Seeing you alive brings warm feelings to my heart... - style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

Darth Palpy
05-02-2004, 04:07 PM
And people said it would be better because Lucas had some help with the script !

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Insane Protocol Droid
05-03-2004, 12:25 AM
Seeing you alive brings warm feelings to my heart...

that was one of the things that really bothered me about AotC, too. I was like style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif "Yikes! Yoda's an old lech!" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif the main problem I had with the line is that it just seemed way out of character for Yoda. I mean, it's not like we've even seen any interaction between Yoda and Padmé, other than attending QuiGon's funeral.

Darth Palpy
05-03-2004, 06:01 AM
I suppose Palps `the thought of losing you...` was a bit creepy too !

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DarthAnakin
05-03-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Insane Protocol Droid@May 2 2004, 10:25 PM
that was one of the things that really bothered me about AotC, too. I was like style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif "Yikes! Yoda's an old lech!" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif the main problem I had with the line is that it just seemed way out of character for Yoda. I mean, it's not like we've even seen any interaction between Yoda and Padmé, other than attending QuiGon's funeral.
Yeah they only meet at Qui-Gon's funeral and they don't even peak to eachother thier. Maybe Yoda has a secret crush on Padme. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

stormtrooper9
05-03-2004, 10:42 AM
Name a guy in the SW world would not be?

DarthAnakin
05-03-2004, 07:45 PM
^ True, they all think she's a hottie.

Obi-Stu
05-04-2004, 08:20 AM
I'm sure Yoda and Padme have spoken during the ten year period, between TPM and AOTC. Why can't he be glad to see her?

Back on topic, I'm sure Ja Jar will be dead way before AHN. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

DarthAnakin
05-04-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Obi-Stu@May 4 2004, 06:20 AM
Back on topic, I'm sure Ja Jar will be dead way before AHN. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif
We can only hope, and pray. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

stormtrooper9
05-04-2004, 02:48 PM
If he is not killed how about he is excelled to an outer rim planet.

DarthAnakin
05-04-2004, 06:36 PM
^ Yea I guess I don't really care wether he lives or dies, I just want him gone. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

stormtrooper9
05-04-2004, 06:40 PM
How would thay add Jar-Jar anyways they would need to remake the movie so the cast can interact with him.

Obi-Stu
05-05-2004, 10:37 AM
If they were to add him in (which they are not...) It would either be a new scene or just have him in the back ground.

stormtrooper9
05-05-2004, 04:38 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Can just think of it now Jar Jar tripping over a group of storm troopers.

Jim-Jam
05-16-2004, 12:53 AM
padme and yoda talk rite at the beggining of ATOC, did u even watch the movie? lo/ dont bash jar jar, hes a close friend and or reletive of mine.

JKRich
05-16-2004, 12:59 AM
I heard he becomes one of the Imperial Guards...jk style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif If were lucky we wont see him again.

DarthAnakin
05-16-2004, 04:59 AM
It would be funny to see him as a Stormtrooper in ANH!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif Just Kidding!!!

Longshot
05-16-2004, 07:26 AM
Maybe hes the one who bangs his head?!!? :roll:

stormtrooper9
05-16-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by DarthAnakin@May 16 2004, 03:59 AM
It would be funny to see him as a Stormtrooper in ANH!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif Just Kidding!!!
Vader would of killed him years before ANH.

Insane Protocol Droid
06-26-2004, 01:07 AM
I'm praying we hear a line of dialognear the end of Ep3 from JarJar similar to this:

"Meesa sick of these bombad clone wars. Meesa gonna go retire and live on Alderaan. It be safest dere."

bous
06-28-2004, 06:18 AM
He's not in ANH but he is in ESB & ROJ, when Anakin falls in the lava Jar-Jar jumps in there to save him but his face will be totally disfigured, after this event he will change his name, from now on he wants to be called 'The Emperor'.

Max Starkiller
07-10-2004, 12:29 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/joystick.gif weird idea, bous.

It couldn't work. In any way.

bous
07-11-2004, 04:27 AM
Come on man, you know I'm not serious right?

This one was s oweird I didn't even bother to put a smile next to it, maybe I should have.

Max Starkiller
07-11-2004, 05:54 AM
No, not your idea not working. I find it most humorous.

What I am suggesting is that Jar Jar in ANH wouldn't work in Hell. Well, maybe in Hell as some sort of punishment...

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif "You will now be forced to watch your favorite movie and we added Jar Jar Binks :maniacal laughter:"

bous
07-12-2004, 03:52 AM
Oh ok, I was starting to worry about you man. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Max Starkiller
07-12-2004, 01:07 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/chortle.gif Thanks, and BTW, cool avi.

bous
07-13-2004, 04:06 AM
Thanks man, glad somebody likes it.

But to get back on topic, I think (and hope) we will not see Jar Jar in ANH.
(maybe only if you look through some VERY good binoculars at Alderaan)

walong
07-13-2004, 03:23 PM
i honesty cannot understand why lucas would ever think it would be a "good thing" to put jarjar in any of the other films.

but then again i cant understand why he thouhgt that greedo should have shot first either -- that was really lame, but putting jarjar into anh would top that by a mile.

DarthAnakin
07-27-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by walong@Jul 13 2004, 01:23 PM
i honesty cannot understand why lucas would ever think it would be a "good thing" to put jarjar in any of the other films.

but then again i cant understand why he thouhgt that greedo should have shot first either -- that was really lame, but putting jarjar into anh would top that by a mile.
I would agree with you Walong, Jar Jar in ANH would be terrible and probably worse than having Greedo shoot first.

Justin
07-27-2004, 02:34 AM
Maybe he'll be one of the X-Wing pilots in the Death Star battle.

DarthAnakin
07-27-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Jul 27 2004, 12:34 AM
Maybe he'll be one of the X-Wing pilots in the Death Star battle.
Oh sure ruin that battle completely. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Max Starkiller
07-27-2004, 03:46 PM
Who started this rumor? MICKEY SUTTLE? Probably. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

walong
07-27-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Jul 27 2004, 12:34 AM
Maybe he'll be one of the X-Wing pilots in the Death Star battle.
maybe he could just walk by in the background of mos eisley or the cantina or somthing, but no speaking role. anything more than that would be pathetic.

honestly tho i think with adding jarjar lucas would be getting even deeper into self-congratulatory revisionism. there is no legitimate reason to put jarjar (or bobo fett for that matter) into anh. jabba i could tolerate because it was at least somthing that was in the original script, so lucas has some credibility to add it back in (even tho a good numbner of people including myself still think it is unnecessary and gratuitous).

but jarjar & fett were never inthe original script or anything and the first film was just fine without them. so for lucas to add them is just pointless and i dont see a legitimate justifcation. if it aint broke dont fix it i say -- especially with a heavilyy despised character like jarjar for petes sake.

CyHunter
07-27-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by walong+Jul 27 2004, 02:16 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(walong @ Jul 27 2004, 02:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Jul 27 2004, 12:34 AM
Maybe he'll be one of the X-Wing pilots in the Death Star battle.
maybe he could just walk by in the background of mos eisley or the cantina or somthing, but no speaking role. anything more than that would be pathetic.

honestly tho i think with adding jarjar lucas would be getting even deeper into self-congratulatory revisionism. there is no legitimate reason to put jarjar (or bobo fett for that matter) into anh. jabba i could tolerate because it was at least somthing that was in the original script, so lucas has some credibility to add it back in (even tho a good numbner of people including myself still think it is unnecessary and gratuitous).

but jarjar & fett were never inthe original script or anything and the first film was just fine without them. so for lucas to add them is just pointless and i dont see a legitimate justifcation. if it aint broke dont fix it i say -- especially with a heavilyy despised character like jarjar for petes sake. [/b][/quote]
Well, I liked Boba Fett in Ep IV. It's a brief but nice inclusion, since the character has a lot of importance in these movies. However, I don't think Jar Jar will appear, nor should he. Why not put Chancellor Valorum in Ep IV, if we're going to be including random cameos?


Point is, it's a bunch of fan-made poppycock. There's virtually nil chance of him appearing.

DarthAnakin
07-27-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by walong@Jul 27 2004, 02:16 PM
maybe he could just walk by in the background of mos eisley or the cantina or somthing, but no speaking role. anything more than that would be pathetic.

Anything more then that would really suck.

walong
07-27-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by CyHunter+Jul 27 2004, 02:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CyHunter @ Jul 27 2004, 02:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I liked Boba Fett in Ep IV. It's a brief but nice inclusion, since the character has a lot of importance in these movies.[/b]
it was acceptable because he was a walk-on.

still somehow to me it makes the sw universe kinda smaller if the same characters keep popping up here & there.

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Point is, it's a bunch of fan-made poppycock. There's virtually nil chance of him appearing.[/quote]
i hope youre right.

but if they do stick him in then he would be 20-30 years older or so -- how fast to gungans age? would he have bifocals & walk with a cane? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

DarthAnakin
07-27-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by walong@Jul 27 2004, 02:41 PM
still somehow to me it makes the sw universe kinda smaller if the same characters keep popping up here & there.

Very true, I hope GL just leaves Jar Jar to the PT.

CyHunter
07-27-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by walong+Jul 27 2004, 02:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(walong @ Jul 27 2004, 02:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-CyHunter@Jul 27 2004, 02:22 PM
I liked Boba Fett in Ep IV.* It's a brief but nice inclusion, since the character has a lot of importance in these movies.
it was acceptable because he was a walk-on.

still somehow to me it makes the sw universe kinda smaller if the same characters keep popping up here & there. [/b][/quote]
Not really...I mean, he's probably a regular for Jabba when there's not much action elsewhere, seeing as how he pops up in his palace in VI.

walong
07-27-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by CyHunter@Jul 27 2004, 02:44 PM
he's probably a regular for Jabba when there's not much action elsewhere, seeing as how he pops up in his palace in VI.
I can buy that to some degree in this one case with fett but they had to show him as a kid in atoc, and now lucas has to put jarjar into the ot, and the droids are in every film, and anikin built c3po, and all that stuff, well it just seems to me like its getting a little carried away. its like lucas is playing 'wheres waldo' -- can you spot all the characters stuck into the special editions? call me an old fuddy-duddy but i just don't think that stuff is really called for or makes anything better.

in the other thread they showed a scene where lucas enhanced the deathstar corridor to make it look longer instead of looking like it ended at a backgroung flat on a movie set. now that's a great example of improving something in an unobrtusive way that helps the film by removing a (minor) distraction. ditto for stuff like removing matte lines and the background bleed-thru in the hoth snow battle.

i'm just the kind of person who usually likes the original best, warts and all.

Max Starkiller
07-28-2004, 02:45 PM
There is only one (count 'em, 1) reason why Greedo shoots first. That reason is because GL does not want a "good guy"-type character acting unnecessarilly hostile. I know, Han is supposed to be a shady type, but try to put yourself in the mindset of Mr. Lucas. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif But not for too long, that just wouldn't be healthy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Darth Whaler
07-28-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Ralph Skywalker@Jul 28 2004, 05:45 PM
There is only one (count 'em, 1) reason why Greedo shoots first. That reason is because GL does not want a "good guy"-type character acting unnecessarilly hostile.
I can understand that logic, but he should have thought of that when he first made the movie or just left it alone when he realized he wanted to change it.

walong
07-28-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Ralph Skywalker@Jul 28 2004, 12:45 PM
There is only one (count 'em, 1) reason why Greedo shoots first. That reason is because GL does not want a "good guy"-type character acting unnecessarilly hostile. I know, Han is supposed to be a shady type, but try to put yourself in the mindset of Mr. Lucas.* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif* But not for too long, that just wouldn't be healthy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
I agree - if lucas really wanted that then he should have thought about it in 1976.

no way is it "unnecessarily hostile" for han to shoot first -- he's at gunpoint, and he knew greedo was gonna fry him. "good guy" doesnt mean "stupid enough to let an enemy shoot atyou from 2 feet away before you do something about it" (talk about "wouldnt be healthy"...) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

and if you look closely at that scene greedos shot goes off at some goofy angle and han 'jumps' a bit to one side as if he were dodging the shot. really could anyone miss from that distance? or dodge a laser beam from 2 feet away?

i just dont follow how lucas thouhgt this was an improvement.

CyHunter
07-28-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by walong+Jul 27 2004, 04:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(walong @ Jul 27 2004, 04:51 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-CyHunter@Jul 27 2004, 02:44 PM
he's probably a regular for Jabba when there's not much action elsewhere, seeing as how he pops up in his palace in VI.
I can buy that to some degree in this one case with fett but they had to show him as a kid in atoc, and now lucas has to put jarjar into the ot, [/b][/quote]
Huh? Who says this is going to happen? It hasn't been proven at all, and I wont beleive it until I see a screencap.

Max Starkiller
07-28-2004, 08:45 PM
I apologize, my fellow nerds. I did think too much like GL there. BTW, SS lately had a fan tell him he "rock[s] harder than Greenday".

bous
07-29-2004, 04:17 AM
But to get back to Jar Jar, I believe that in the end celebration of ROJ they added Naboo for the DVD's and you can a hear a voice saying 'weesa free!' I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be Ahmed Best's voice.

walong
07-29-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by CyHunter+Jul 28 2004, 02:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CyHunter @ Jul 28 2004, 02:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by walong@Jul 27 2004, 04:51 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-CyHunter@Jul 27 2004, 02:44 PM
he's probably a regular for Jabba when there's not much action elsewhere, seeing as how he pops up in his palace in VI.
I can buy that to some degree in this one case with fett but they had to show him as a kid in atoc, and now lucas has to put jarjar into the ot,
Huh? Who says this is going to happen? It hasn't been proven at all, and I wont beleive it until I see a screencap. [/b][/quote]
ok fair enough --- he hasnt actually done it (yet), so i wont jump the gun

Handothrawn
08-08-2004, 03:06 AM
They've already made some changes...*sigh* again. they added Hayden into ROTJ, and they've got a new ending for the celebration, I liked the original so much better, they need to be interchangeable, so why not?

Lord Ulic
08-08-2004, 09:30 AM
No please no more Jar Jar. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif

walong
08-09-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Handothrawn+Aug 8 2004, 01:06 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Handothrawn @ Aug 8 2004, 01:06 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>They've already made some changes...*sigh* again. they added Hayden into ROTJ, and they've got a new ending for the celebration[/b]
i cant keep track of all this stuff anymore.

what versions of what films are you referring to?

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I liked the original so much better[/quote]
yeah, all this makes me nostalgic for that..... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif