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Obi-Wan
10-03-2002, 02:25 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Who do you think would win?</font>
Um, what good does a bat gun do against a bulletproof, laser eyed alien?
Winston_Sith
10-03-2002, 07:15 PM
A Kryptonite Bat-a-rang could cause a lot of damage, and you KNOW he's gotta have one of those, just for such an occasion...
Justin
10-03-2002, 10:38 PM
This isn't a good poll because the only choices indicate that one of them has to beat the other one straight out, with no problem at all. It would be much more complicated than one simply smearing the other.
This is hard, because Superman obviously is much more powerful than Batman, but Batman has a very keen intellect.
If it came down to it, it would be close, because Batman always cheats. He always has a plan, he knows his enemies up and down before he goes after them, knows their strengths and weaknesses, and knows how and where to hit them, mentally and physically.
I'm sure Batman could come up with some plan to defeat Superman if he had to, but Superman us so much more powerful than him. It would be a very close match, and it could go either way, as far as I'm concerned.
Ultimately, though, I have to go with Superman. He's the toughest there is. But it would be close.
Winston_Sith
10-04-2002, 12:08 AM
Did I mention that it was a Kryptonite Bat-a-rang to the groin? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
Jedi Master Shaft
10-04-2002, 11:26 AM
Batman would win. Superman may be strong but he's not smart -well not as smart as Batman- and he would obviously loose.
Batman's the best. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif
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Aayla
10-04-2002, 12:01 PM
Batman. I don't like Superman. Batman is the coolest.
Justin
10-04-2002, 03:45 PM
You don't like Superman?? He's the all time greatest hero!! How can you not like Superman??
Aayla
10-04-2002, 03:54 PM
I just don't. It's easy. I don't like Qui-Gon either. They're both...boring.
Darth Drew
10-04-2002, 03:56 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=black)'>I agree with Aayla</font>
Obi-Wan
10-04-2002, 03:57 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I voted for Batman. I never liked Superman. Batman is awsome. He is way smarter then Superman. Batman can and does kick Superman's butt alot.</font>
Aayla
10-04-2002, 03:59 PM
See, Justin. Batman is way cooler than Superman.
Justin
10-04-2002, 04:03 PM
Oh come on. Just because a few people think something doesn't mean it's true. And SUperman isn't boring...I bet you've never even read a Superman comic book.
Aayla
10-04-2002, 04:11 PM
I've read Superman comic books, but I don't read them all the time. I don't like comic books.
Obi-Wan
10-04-2002, 04:49 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I've read a few Superman Comic Books and he is very boring. Batman's Comic Books are awsome.</font>
Queen 'Onna
10-04-2002, 05:37 PM
I'm with you Justin.Superman would win.
Darth Vegas
10-05-2002, 03:10 AM
Superman would crush Batman.
I don't care about that stupid cartoon movie you guys keep talking about, the idea of Superman and Batman fighting eachother is stupid, I gaurantee you the movie is gonna suck, the thought of it is revolting, it will be the worst superhero flick since "Superman 4: The quest for peace" and "Batman & Robin".
yeah, I agree. What are the odds that Batman could possibly beat him? oh wait, he's cooler that's why! NO! SUperman is the greatest superhero. Batman fights fro vengence and anger, while superman fights for justice.
Justin
10-05-2002, 04:25 PM
My thoughts exactly, Mann. Batman might be cooler (not much more, though), but Superman is the best.
Darth Drew
10-05-2002, 04:30 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=black)'>Superman is a wimp.</font>
Obi-Wan
10-05-2002, 04:49 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I agree with Drew, Superman is a wimp.</font>
Queen 'Onna
10-05-2002, 05:50 PM
Superman is not a wimp.Batman has nothing going for him.
Rebel Astromech Droid
10-05-2002, 05:53 PM
Batman is ausome super man sucks a whole lot a whole lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obi-Wan
10-05-2002, 06:04 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Batman has alot going for him. Superman's weakness is a rock. Batman has no weakness.</font>
Padme
10-05-2002, 09:35 PM
Batman is so cool!! I love his costume and he is way stronger than Superman!
Darth Drew
10-05-2002, 09:39 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=black)'>Ha ha Batman is winng</font>
Winston_Sith
10-05-2002, 11:15 PM
I just voted for Batman.
Superman is virtually indestructable and all; except for the Kryptonite, but he doesn't seem all that bright (does he?)
Batman would play him for a fool and kick his ass.
Justin
10-05-2002, 11:31 PM
Why do people say Superman isn't all that bright? I've never read or seen anything that portrays him as being dumb.
In the comics and the cartoon, he's solved mysteries and stuff. Just because Batman is extremely smart doesn't mean Superman is stupid.
Justin
10-05-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Obi-Wan@Oct 5 2002, 10:04 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Batman has alot going for him. Superman's weakness is a rock. Batman has no weakness.</font>
Batman has no weaknesses? He's a regular guy, even if he's in better shape than most people and knows martial arts. He has all the same weaknesses as a regular person.
His anger and pain over his parents' death is a weakness as well; Ra's Al Ghul (a major Batman bad-guy) used that against him by digging up their bodies and threating to desecrate them in a Justice League comic they made not too long ago.
You can pick it up at a bookstore or comic shop, I think it's called "Justice League: Tower of Babel."
Anyway, Kryptonite makes Superman weak, but it does it slowly. First you have to get close enough to get it near Superman, and then you have to make sure it stays there for like ten minutes in order to kill him. It's really not much of a weakness at all.
Say you shoot him with a Kryptonite bullet. If it actually could break his skin so quickly (it probably could if it was a knife that was pressed against him slowly), he could probably find a way to remove it before it kills him. Krypronite doesn't just automatically put Superman down, he has to be exposed to it for a while.
And Padme, Batman is nowhere near as strong as Superman. He's just a regular guy. Superman is from another planet, and his Kryptonian molecular density makes him a great deal stronger than the strongest human being. He can knock over buildings for crying out loud!
It's pretty sad that I know all this, lol.
Obi-Wan
10-06-2002, 12:02 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Batman is stronger then Superdork. It's sad that you think Superman could beat Batman.</font>
Obidobi
10-06-2002, 04:26 AM
Superman would knock Batty down before he could blink his eye. Sorry guys, but superman is just too fast and strong for Batman.
Theīre not in the same leauge.
Justin
10-06-2002, 02:07 PM
Obi-Wan, what is your problem? I think you're taking this a little too seriously. You need to improve your attitude, young man! lol.
You obviously don't know much about either of them if you think Batman is stronger than Superman.
Obi-Wan
10-06-2002, 07:23 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I know alot about Batman and Superman. I have alot of old and new comics of them both. Batman can kick Superman's butt. Superman is stupid, he wouldn't last but a few minutes.</font>
Justin
10-06-2002, 08:46 PM
Why do you say Superman is stupid?
Obi-Wan
10-06-2002, 08:50 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Because he is.</font>
Justin
10-06-2002, 10:56 PM
lol, well there's the logic of a 13 yr old for ya.
Obi-Wan
10-06-2002, 11:51 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>You are the one who doesn't know that much about Batman and Superdork, if you think Superdork can beat Batman.</font>
Winston_Sith
10-07-2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Oct 6 2002, 03:31 AM
?l<Leople say Superman isn't all that bright? I've never read or seen anything that portrays him as being dumb.
In the comics and the cartoon, he's solved mysteries and stuff. Just because Batman is extremely smart doesn't mean Superman is stupid.
But it doesn't mean he's smarter, either.
I'm sure Batsy could come up with some kind of "red sun radiation generator" to block out the nurturing rays of our yellow sun, and THAT would take Supes out of commission quicker than a dunk in a Kryptonite-water solution, wouldn't it?
Bat-gadgets are amazing things, as you know. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
RollaFett
10-07-2002, 12:50 AM
Although I like Batman a whole helluva lot more than Superman, I must vote for Superman. All he has to do is get a hold of Batman and rip his head off. That, or any other super-human-strength-type thing that would result in instant death/victory. I hate to admit it, but Batman wouldn't stand a chance against someone with the powers of Superman.
Now I'm sad.
Obidobi
10-07-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Obi-Wan@Oct 7 2002, 12:23 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I know alot about Batman and Superman. I have alot of old and new comics of them both. Batman can kick Superman's butt. Superman is stupid, he wouldn't last but a few minutes.</font>
It looks to me that you donīt know much about anything!
You are just an arrogant youngster, who think that you know a lot!
Wake up kid!
Darth Vegas
10-07-2002, 10:02 AM
Yeah Ob-Wan, you really are naive, you need to grow up. All you know about are stupid cartoons, how bout you read the original comic books?
Batman may be really cool, but he has no super powers, Superman can go mach 3 for god's sake!!! All Superman has to do is just one thing to Batman, and he's dead, laser vision, ice breath, or just a nice punch.
Also where the hell would Batman even get kryptonite from? What he gonna do have some sattelite probe the remains of planet Krypton and make counterfit Krytonite?
I don't think so!!!!!!!
The idea is proposterous, Batman has no chance.
Obi-Wan
10-07-2002, 03:22 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I have alot of the original comics. I know I don't know alot but when it comes to my fave cartoons and comics I try to find out as much as I can about them. Batman can beat Superman.</font>
Obidobi
10-07-2002, 03:26 PM
Blah!
hmm who would win rich man with lots of toys
or super human immortal laser visioned flying super strong man
Winston_Sith
10-07-2002, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by vodo bass@Oct 7 2002, 07:35 PM
hmm who would win rich man with lots of toys
or super human immortal laser visioned flying super strong man
The rich man with lots of toys who has analyzed all the traits (strengths, weaknesses etc) of the super human immortal laser visioned flying super strong man.
Sure, the super human immortal laser visioned flying super strong man would have analyzed the tactics of the rich man with lots of toys as well, but, as the scene would probably play out as a search an destroy operation on the super human immortal laser visioned flying super strong man's part, the rich man with lots of toys would be able to come up with certain devices that would be aptly suited to deal with him.
Advantage: Batman.
Darth Vegas
10-09-2002, 01:50 AM
Superman is always on the ball, even if he didn't know about his adversary in advance, the moment he does, the game is over, that's one of the advantages of being able to fly at mach 3.
Superman is no dopey meat head, he's got his head on straight.
Any of you read "The Death and Return of Superman"?
I'd like to see Batman do what Kal-El did in that series.
Batman, has no chance against the man of steel, not a snowballs chance in hell.
umm, why are people saying Batman is stronger? Batman would break is hand even punching Superman.
Javen
10-09-2002, 09:29 PM
I like Batman he's dark, mysterious kinda like a Sith in fact he could be one in Star Wars.Imagine Batman with a Bat-a-rang Lightsaber...
Justin
10-09-2002, 10:38 PM
It would cut his hand off, Javen.
Batman almost did break his hand punching Superman once, in "Batman: A Death in the Family."
Winston_Sith
10-09-2002, 11:34 PM
Batman doesn't even have to punch Superman (as if he would let him come that close - at that range, Superman's victory is assured) to defeat him.
Darth Vegas
10-10-2002, 07:48 AM
The only way Batman has any chance is if he has kryptonite, where the hell would get that from now huh?
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Justin
10-10-2002, 12:25 PM
I'm sure he can get some, but using it effectively is the trick.
Winston_Sith
10-10-2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Agent Bond A.K.A. TK-007@Oct 10 2002, 11:48 AM
The only way Batman has any chance is if he has kryptonite, where the hell would get that from now huh?
I don't know, the Kryponite booth at the Gotham City Intergalactic Gemology Fair? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Javen
10-10-2002, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Javen@Oct 10 2002, 01:29 AM
I like Batman he's dark, mysterious kinda like a Sith in fact he could be one in Star Wars.Imagine Batman with a Bat-a-rang Lightsaber...
Oh come on have some imagination, it would have a handle you know. Superman got beat so many times its pathetic he does the same ol crap, but BatMan
he actually thinks logically unlike Superwhimp.
Justin
10-10-2002, 09:41 PM
Batman's had his ass handed to him before too, plenty of times. The Joker even beat him hand-to-hand on more than one occasion.
Yeah, um batman got beaten and had to have a replacement. Superman died and came back to life. How can he be beat?
Obi-Wan
10-11-2002, 11:30 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Superdork is stupid and dumb. I can't believe he came back to life. Batman does have Kryponite in the Batcave. Batman can beat Superdork. </font>
Justin
10-11-2002, 11:51 PM
Jeeze Obi-Wan, why do you hate Superman so much?
Well it's official: there will be no "Batman Vs. Superman" movie. Thank God. That would have really sucked.
Darth Vegas
10-11-2002, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Obi-Wan@Oct 11 2002, 07:30 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Superdork is stupid and dumb. I can't believe he came back to life. Batman does have Kryponite in the Batcave. Batman can beat Superdork. </font>
He does huh? I'd like to know where you get your infom from, he does not have kryptonite.
UNless it was just that stupid cartoon.
or Obi-Wan's biased mind. There isn't that mch kryptonite in the world, so wherever Batman gets it, I would like to know.
Winston_Sith
10-12-2002, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Oct 12 2002, 02:10 AM
Yeah, um batman got beaten and had to have a replacement. Superman died and came back to life. How can he be beat?
Especially when his rebirth ruined so many people's view of the comic book industry(including mine). They're like; "Hey, if we kill Superman, we can always bring him back in the next issue! We'll milk those dupes who believed that 'superman is dead' like Ozzy did, everytime he said he was going to ''retire'! Mu-ahahahahahaha!!!!"
The moral of this story: Ozzy did not retire, Superman never died - at least in the eyes of their promoters. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Originally posted by Winston_Sith+Oct 12 2002, 07:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Winston_Sith @ Oct 12 2002, 07:00 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Oct 12 2002, 02:10 AM
Yeah, um batman got beaten and had to have a replacement. Superman died and came back to life. How can he be beat?
Especially when his rebirth ruined so many people's view of the comic book industry(including mine). They're like; "Hey, if we kill Superman, we can always bring him back in the next issue! We'll milk those dupes who believed that 'superman is dead' like Ozzy did, everytime he said he was going to ''retire'! Mu-ahahahahahaha!!!!"
The moral of this story: Ozzy did not retire, Superman never died - at least in the eyes of their promoters. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/b][/quote]
and this has to do with how batman will beat superman how?
Handothrawn
10-13-2002, 09:41 AM
In a straight fight, no-gadgets, or fancy items, Batman is a goner.
But Superman and Batman are both cool heroes, and both have their strong points.
Batman uses psychological-fear-instilling mental attacks on his enemies, Superman, on the other hand, just breaks the wall down and takes you away.
I think Brucey could probably find someway to beat Clark, but I doubt it.
Handothrawn
10-13-2002, 09:49 AM
Superman is powered by solar energy stored within his Kryptonian genes, after Doomsday, he was weak for days before he was up to his normal self. But he wasn't killed by Doomsday, he was just in a sort of "Supercoma".
Batman is a normal guy, who can be killed and, that, would be the end of it. Thats why I think Batman is the better hero.
But he couldn't beat Superman, unless he could find enough Kryptonite to kill him, and get close enough, long enough, t use it.
Winston_Sith
10-13-2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Mann+Oct 12 2002, 06:59 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Oct 12 2002, 06:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Winston_Sith@Oct 12 2002, 07:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Oct 12 2002, 02:10 AM
Yeah, um batman got beaten and had to have a replacement. Superman died and came back to life. How can he be beat?
Especially when his rebirth ruined so many people's view of the comic book industry(including mine). They're like; "Hey, if we kill Superman, we can always bring him back in the next issue! We'll milk those dupes who believed that 'superman is dead' like Ozzy did, everytime he said he was going to ''retire'! Mu-ahahahahahaha!!!!"
The moral of this story: Ozzy did not retire, Superman never died - at least in the eyes of their promoters. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
and this has to do with how batman will beat superman how?[/b][/quote]
I don't know.
I guess I was in stream-of-consciousness mode at the time... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif
Darth Drew
10-13-2002, 09:56 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=black)'>Hey wait the wrong guy is winning!</font>
Obi-Wan
10-13-2002, 10:14 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Soon Batman will be winning again. Superdork can't beat Batman. Batman is smarter and stronger then him. Superdork is a loser.</font>
Darth Drew
10-13-2002, 10:15 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=black)'>Not stronger, but smarter.</font>
RollaFett
10-14-2002, 08:58 PM
I love how those who believe that Batman could beat Superman are coining up with such logical explanations as to how this would happen. C'mon, now, how would he do it?
Like I said before, I like Batman much more than Superman, but I will not allow that to cloud my judgement.
Well it's official: there will be no "Batman Vs. Superman" movie. Thank God. That would have really sucked.
Where did you hear that?
Justin
10-14-2002, 10:40 PM
It's on the E! website.
Yeah, um Obi-Wan just stop please
Winston_Sith
10-16-2002, 02:35 AM
Batman obviously couldn't attack Superman face to face, he would have to lure him somewhere, where he has booby-traps consisting of some of what I have mentioned before, along with a lot more good anti-Superman weaponry that he could come up with, waiting for him.
Once in a weakened state, Superman would be eay pickin's.
Obi-Wan
10-16-2002, 11:54 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Mann, I ain't doing anything wrong.</font>
Darth Vegas
10-17-2002, 09:32 AM
You're delusional, relax, take a deep breath.........and stop smoking crack.
Obi-Wan
11-21-2002, 01:30 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Up!</font>
Obi-Wan
12-11-2002, 01:56 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Going Up! Come on we need more votes for Batman!</font>
Darth Vegas
12-11-2002, 02:53 AM
No you don't, he could not possibly hope to win, and people know that.
<marquee><font style='width=80%; filter:shadow(color=blue)'>VOTE SUPERMAN!!!</marquee></font>
Obi-Wan
12-11-2002, 03:07 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Yes! It is a tie! Batman can still win!
http://www.jlanimated.com/comm/08.jpg</font>
Obi-Wan
12-28-2002, 09:15 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Up! Come on Batman needs to win!</font>
<marquee><font style='width=80%; filter:shadow(color=black)'>VOTE FOR BATMAN!!!</marquee></font>
Batman vs. Superdork eh? Superdork could still won. He has SUPER in his name, why? cause he's super! Batman would literally get fried before he got a punch.
Justin
12-28-2002, 10:21 PM
Obi-Wan, if you refer to Superman as "Superdork" again, I will ban you. I'm not kidding.
Obi-Wan
12-28-2002, 10:23 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Riiiight. That wouldn't be a good reason to ban me.</font>
Justin
12-28-2002, 10:52 PM
It would be good enough for me.
I like that. It will make him stop his immaturity.
Obi-Wan
12-29-2002, 12:20 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Justin there is no rule against calling him Superdork. You just want me banned. I'll PM Dark Helmet and ask him.</font>
X-3PO
12-29-2002, 01:53 AM
Batman would win hands down! He has everything in that utility belt! I'm sure there is a chunk of Kryptonite in there somewhere! I mean he has shark repellant in that thing for crying out loud!
Obi-Wan
12-29-2002, 02:35 AM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Yeah! Batman is winning!</font>
Stop the madness! Batman would die!
X-3PO
12-29-2002, 01:05 PM
I hate superman! He is too goody-goody,and too powerful. There is nothing cool about being invincible! Everything Batman has done is on his own merits, he doesn't rely on any powers. Therefor he is a better calculating thinker then Superman, becuse he has to find ways to do things, where superman just smashs through walls, etc. Batman could out think and outfight Superman!
YOu just said he's invincible though. So in otherwords, Batman can't kill him!
X-3PO
12-29-2002, 01:12 PM
I also said that I am sure Batty keeps a stick of kryptonite in his belt, becuase he is always prepared! http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/cwm/3dlil/smirk.gif
And why does he have to kill him? All he has to do is fight him.
um, you think he has kyptonite? Where did you see this? is it in a comic book? Well, all I know is that Superman would just punch Batman and his frail human body would be crushed.
Obi-Wan
12-29-2002, 11:47 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>Batman does have Kryptonite. It was in the Batcave in the cartoon and the comic.</font>
Justin
12-29-2002, 11:50 PM
OK Obi-Wan, but how about if I delete every post in which you refer to him as Superdork? I think I can do that.
And no, I was never planning on banning you. Just wanted to get your panties in a wad. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Obi-Wan
12-29-2002, 11:58 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>A Mod said I could refer to him as Superman. He's only a cartoon character I doubt I could hurt his feelings to bad.</font>
so refer to him as Superman, not Superdork like the mod said!
kopernikuz
12-30-2002, 01:35 PM
Why are you arguing this... don't any of you actually read the comics you are arguing about?
Batman HAS beaten Superman in a fight.
Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns... if you haven't read it... it's hands down the best Batman story written (IMHO of course, though the sequel sucked). And Batman uses his intellect and technology to beat down the Man of Steel. It's an interesting fight.
Justin
12-30-2002, 03:41 PM
"The Dark Knight Returns" is definitely not the greatest Batman story ever told. In fact, I think the second half of it sucks pretty bad. After the Joker dies, it all goes downhill.
There's a little known issue of "Detective Comics" (I don't remember the number) that was part of the "Armageddon 2001" cross-over that was really good.
Even though it's a "what-if" style thing, it's a great story, and much better than "The Dark Knight Returns." It's still not the best, though. It's just one that stood out in my opinion.
kopernikuz
12-31-2002, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Dec 30 2002, 03:41 PM
"The Dark Knight Returns" is definitely not the greatest Batman story ever told. In fact, I think the second half of it sucks pretty bad. After the Joker dies, it all goes downhill.
Well see... that's where the magic of a little acronym like "IMHO" comes in handy... you see, 'The Dark Knight Returns" IS the best one... in my humble opinion. Just as the one you mentioned is the best in your opinion.
But before this turns to a debate over the best Batman story which is off-topic... my point was on-topic that Batman DID beat Superman and the results of this poll are moot at best and those debating should check it out because it's neat and covers the topic being debated. That much at least is definitive and not opinion.
Justin
12-31-2002, 08:18 PM
I should also point out here that "The Dark Knight Returns" doesn't take place in actual continuity.
RollaFett
12-31-2002, 10:31 PM
I'm gonna add my 2 cents on best Batman story: "The Killing Joke" Late 80's trade paperback where the Joker cripples Barbara Gordon, kidnaps Commisioner Gordon, and is his usual maniacal self. Loved it!!!!
kopernikuz
01-01-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Dec 31 2002, 08:18 PM
I should also point out here that "The Dark Knight Returns" doesn't take place in actual continuity.
What does continuity have to do with anything? In the future, Superman's powers diminish or something? Certainly Batman doesn't become stronger. It doesn't change the fact that in a storyline where Batman and Superman actually fight... Batman wins.
Now if we were talking about an altered reality story where Batman is bitten by a radioactive bat with Kryptonite blood, that would be a story inapplicable to the argument... but DKR is not an altered reality, simply an altered timetable...
Batman still wins.
Now if you really want to play with timelines though, a young Clark Kent from Smallville versus a young Bruce Wayne... before he's ammassed as much technology or skills... okay... on the playground... Brucey is toast. But in the current timeline... with Bruce a skillful fighter with technology on his side... Bruce wins. In a knockdown dragout... hand to hand... Bruce is dead before he hits the ground. But he would never be dumb enough to enter that fight...
And GF... I agree... Killing Joke ROCKS! Nice call!
The fact that batman has to use weapons to be Superman is just sad. Superman is using natural abilities.
kopernikuz
01-02-2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Jan 1 2003, 02:38 PM
The fact that batman has to use weapons to be Superman is just sad. Superman is using natural abilities.
Natural abilities given to him because he is an alien enhanced by our yellow sun... how is that natural? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
On Krypton, he's no tougher than me.
Justin
01-02-2003, 12:18 PM
What does continuity have to do with anything?
Continuity has to do with everything. I have an elseworlds comic where Green Lantern is a nazi. Does that mean it really happened? No, because it's not part of official continuity.
Another of the best Batman stories is the "Laughing Fish" storyline, in which the Joker poisons the water in Gotham harbor, making all the fish have these nasty grins.
Natural abilities given to him because he is an alien enhanced by our yellow sun... how is that natural?
HEHE, I thought some ne might mention this. um, It wasn't like he was experimented on or anything. It natural because it's what happens through a natural process. It's like if you are adapt to a cooler climate and move to a warmer climate, you body changes. It's a natural reaction. It's how his species react to our sun.
Obi-Wan
01-02-2003, 03:09 PM
<font style='width=80%; filter:glow(color=blue)'>I've been looking everywhere for The Dark Knight Returns and I can't find it. But I do know that in that comic Batman did beat Superdumb. Man I really want to read that comic. I would love to see Batman kicking Superman's butt!</font>
Obi-Wan
04-08-2003, 09:17 PM
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