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Brian
09-22-2002, 09:07 PM
I have began reading the HST by Ann Crispin. I wanted to know what other senators thought of this one. I think Paradise Snare is very interesting (so far). I have heard that this trilogy is better than the Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley. Any thoughts?

OBG

mtilden
09-22-2002, 09:26 PM
The Paradise Snare is kind of lame, IMO, but thankfully each book in this series is better than the previous one. Much better than Brian Daley's works.

Tonin
09-23-2002, 01:18 AM
i loved this series. all three of the books were very well written, in my opinion and i had a good time reading them. i still reread them alot. I also think that they were much better than the other han Solo trilogy. I just couldnt get into the story in those books, but these were attention grabers. Definately read all three of em. It explains quite a bit abot why han is like he is, and he met some interesting people too.

Brian
09-23-2002, 11:40 AM
I just finished The Pardise Snare. It was rather good. Does Muuurgh or Bria or Jalus Nebl show up in later SW novels not including this trilogy (i.e. any of Anderson's books or NJO)?

Blizzard
09-23-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Sep 23 2002, 09:40 AM
I just finished The Pardise Snare. It was rather good. Does Muuurgh or Bria or Jalus Nebl show up in later SW novels not including this trilogy (i.e. any of Anderson's books or NJO)?
If we told you that we'd be giving away the endings! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

You'll love the next 2, HST has one of the best stories out there. I loved it! Especially all the run-ins with Fett.

I never finished the Han Solo Adventures, they were very uninteresting, almost a waste of time. Ditto with Lando's Adventures.

Jedi Master Gandalf
09-24-2002, 12:22 AM
I read the Han Solo Trilogy a long time ago. I hardly remember The Paradise Snare, but I remember that the Hutt Gambit was a great book and an action packed end space battle. Rebel Dawn was excellent as well.

Ieluuka
09-24-2002, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@Sep 24 2002, 01:22 PM
I read the Han Solo Trilogy a long time ago...
Same here, but I remember that it was good! The HST was the first books I read in the EU. They are very good, but I think that if you're looking for a really good trilogy, try the Thrawn Trilogy.

Brian
09-24-2002, 10:01 AM
Thanks for not spoiling the trilogy for me, Blizzard and others. I will ask my previous question after I finish reading THST.

I got tired of waiting for The Hutt Gambit to come in to the library so I purchased it (just finished the 1st chapter last night).

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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="middle" align="left"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">Man, I thought she would go into more detail about how he saved Chewie from slavery.</td></tr></table>

flo fett
09-30-2002, 08:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>You'll love the next 2, HST has one of the best stories out there. I loved it! Especially all the run-ins with Fett.[/b][/quote]

Yeah, the Fett encounters were handled really well I thought. A. C. Crispin caught his character just right. There's some great moments in the HST. Great fun!

Blizzard
09-30-2002, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Sep 24 2002, 08:01 AM
Man, I thought she would go into more detail about how he saved Chewie from slavery.
She was asked a zillion times why she didn't, and it's because that part of the story still belongs to Lucas. Same with Han's military years. But I don't know why, I guess they never knew if he was going to but those things in the prequels or not.

Brian
10-09-2002, 08:38 PM
Finished The Hutt Gambit and I am now about 1/3 done reading Rebel Dawn. I am glad she did go into detail about how Han won the Millenium Falcon from Lando.

Jors_Dedon
10-10-2002, 11:05 PM
Awesome awesome books. I really enjoyed them. I originally didn't really like Solo that much until I read the books. Bria Tharen is pretty cool thought, even though it was kinda lame that she left him, although her reasons where fairly understandable. Also MUURGH IS THE MAN...ER...TOGORIAN! I FORGOT TO PUT HIM ON MY FAVE CHARACTER TOP LIST ON ANOTHER TOPIC.

Brian
10-21-2002, 08:04 PM
This was an excellent series! The ending was fantastic.

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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="middle" align="left"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">I had no idea that the end of Rebel Dawn leads right up to Chewie meeting with Ben and Luke in the Mos Eisley cantina. That was cool.</td></tr></table>

I give the series 4 stars (****).

Whuffa
10-22-2002, 01:43 PM
I don't really remember this trilogy except that I liked it a lot. Underworld:the Yavin Vasillika (a comic series) could be considered as an adition to the trilogy but I suggest that you don't read it. It was very bad, IMHO

Jedi Daniel
11-01-2002, 02:51 PM
It sounds like this Han Solo Trilogy is quite good. I might have to look into getting it soon. I now own the Corellion Trilogy but I'm currently reading the Thrawn Trilogy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Underworld: The Yavin Vasillika was quite a good comic series I thought Whuffa.

Jedi D'oh
11-01-2002, 02:54 PM
I have the HST as on large book, with all 3 in 1. I really enjoyed this series. It was very well done I thought.

Brian
11-01-2002, 04:01 PM
Yes, Jedi Daniel, the HST is quite good. It's worth the read, especially if you like Han. Even if you don't like him, the books are well written, the story is great, and they don't contradict the movies (at least I didn't notice).

Doh!, I have the Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley in a 3 in 1 book. I didn't know they sold the HST like that. It's probably over 900 pages since each PB was a little over 300 pages.

Daley's books were short so the 3 in 1 book is only 564 pages long.

Jedi D'oh
11-01-2002, 04:02 PM
My dad found it through his book club and ordered it for me. Only place i have ever seen that.

CorranHorn
01-22-2003, 04:57 PM
These were great books. I've read all three of them twice before and talking about them again makes me want to get them out of the library... again. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I like the way Crispin went into detail about how Han won the Falcon.

bluemilk
07-14-2003, 09:47 PM
The Han Solo Trilogy is my sentimental favourite. Crispin did a wonderful job and captured the personality of Han perfectly. She came to our site last year and did an online interview and did great. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif They may not be the best of the EU novels but certainly the most thoughful and lovingly written.

Marbleman
07-14-2003, 10:06 PM
oh most excellent. they had everything you could possibly want in a star wars series. its my second favorite trilogy in the entire EU. great new characters too, wow. teroenza, bria, muurgh and mrov come to mind. and great oldies like lando, mako, and boba. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

all in all crispin spun a well paced, character driven, fun trilogy. thats more than i can say for a few other EU authors.

Brian
07-14-2003, 10:42 PM
Why do people hate Bria so much? I thought she was cool until she did that shaddey stuff to Han at the end. Evenstill, her character was great.

bluemilk
07-14-2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 06:42 PM
Why do people hate Bria so much? I thought she was cool until she did that shaddey stuff to Han at the end. Evenstill, her character was great.
I think because much like Leia, she lost some of her humanity by becoming an extremist for the rebellion. I don't think people realise she did this because it was her way to compensate for letting herself become a cultist 'slave' of the Ylesians, which was beneath her seeing as how she was an intelligent, cultured woman who's family wasn't lacking financially.

She went from society girl to slave to a militant fighter. I don't think she meant to hurt Han out of cold-heartedness, but rather, she was at a point in her life where she had to fight and prove something to herself to know she was in control of her destiny.

Brian
07-14-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by bluemilk+Jul 14 2003, 09:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluemilk @ Jul 14 2003, 09:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 06:42 PM
Why do people hate Bria so much? I thought she was cool until she did that shaddey stuff to Han at the end. Evenstill, her character was great.
I think because much like Leia, she lost some of her humanity by becoming an extremist for the rebellion. I don't think people realise she did this because it was her way to compensate for letting herself become a cultist 'slave' of the Ylesians, which was beneath her seeing as how she was an intelligent, cultured woman who's family wasn't lacking financially.

She went from society girl to slave to a militant fighter. I don't think she meant to hurt Han out of cold-heartedness, but rather, she was at a point in her life where she had to fight and prove something to herself to know she was in control of her destiny. [/b][/quote]
I agree. I, as well as others, was just rubbed the wrong way when I read that. It gave me a bad feeling about her (in the book...you know, while you're whist away in bookland). I don't "hate" her like I've seen other EU fans boast. She is very similar to Leia in numerous ways. She just went off and betrayed Han in the end so-to-speak. Leia almost did the same thing in Courtship. The only saving grace is that I was spoiled already and knew she'd end up marrying Han in the end. But for folks that read the book when it was first released, they probably felt the same way the felt about Bria in the HST.

Bria was the anit-Leia that had to be created. She exemplified why Han feels the way he did in the OT when dealing with Leia. It worked perfectly, IMHO.

I hope that made sense...

bluemilk
07-14-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 06:59 PM
I agree. I, as well as others, was just rubbed the wrong way when I read that. It gave me a bad feeling about her (in the book...you know, while you're whist away in bookland). I don't "hate" her like I've seen other EU fans boast. She is very similar to Leia in numerous ways. She just went off and betrayed Han in the end so-to-speak. Leia almost did the same thing in Courtship. The only saving grace is that I was spoiled already and knew she'd end up marrying Han in the end. But for folks that read the book when it was first released, they probably felt the same way the felt about Bria in the HST.

Bria was the anit-Leia that had to be created. She exemplified why Han feels the way he did in the OT when dealing with Leia. It worked perfectly, IMHO.

I hope that made sense...
Exactly and I agree wholeheartedly! It did work well.

As for the Courtship of Princess Leia, by the end of the book I almost had a hate on for her. Over reading the novels Leia has put her goals and 'duty' to the Republic over her family. In many ways the children and Han seemed to resent her for this. Leia had a lot to prove. During her childhood she was often mistaken for the handmaiden of Winter because Winter was so refined and beautiful. Leia didn't have a 'trick' like fact retention to aide her so she seemed to live by the adage "no guts no glory".

I noticed that at the beginning of Vector Prime, this resentment, was reflected on by Leia herself as she felt jealous by the strong relationship between Mara Jade and Jaina. Now with the recent events of the NJO we come to see that Leia will never have the life she wanted which was her goal for joining the Rebellion. In her naivete she believe the fall of the Empire would bring peace to the galaxy. However I don't think she believed it would become a lifetime struggle (as often lamented by Wedge) with so much heartbreak. Now I feel sad for her and am more sympathetic towards her character and that of Bria.

Jedi Vaapad
07-14-2003, 11:35 PM
This was the trilogy that introduced me into the EU. I really enjoyed them and look forward to reading them again in the future. I think ties in nicely with the films.

bluemilk
07-16-2003, 05:40 AM
^very much so style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif I would love to see them bring back Crispin to write more novels. She's the heart and soul of EU.

Whuffa
07-17-2003, 05:50 AM
Bring back Crispin!

Ripley the Warmaster
11-08-2004, 02:13 AM
<span style="color:blue">I could only get 100 pages into The Paradise Snare before I threw the book down. Twas very, very bad. I refuse to reread TPS or read any of the other novels in the series.</span>

bluemilk
11-08-2004, 06:34 PM
^why? What didn't you like about it? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

Kapit
11-08-2004, 06:36 PM
huh, that's odd, i really enjoyed it

BoHeDia
11-08-2004, 06:41 PM
i havent read that trilo yety, or landos, but i juts gotr the lando trilo, so i figured after three books of lando,i'll love something with han in it...

Ripley the Warmaster
11-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by bluemilk@Nov 8 2004, 04:34 PM
^why? What didn't you like about it? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>

<span style="color:blue">I didn't like Crispin's style. The book seem to go around slowly, I didn't feel any sympathy for Han, and I didn't even reach Bria. I'm personally glad I didn't reach Bria because she sounds like even more of a Mary Sue than Mara.</span>

bluemilk
11-08-2004, 10:27 PM
Ah. Yeah Bria wasn't a very interesting character as far as that goes. I don't mind the Bria character but I really enjoyed reading about Han's past and his relationship with the wookiee cook and also his short stint with the Imperial Navy.

starwarsfreak
11-11-2004, 10:24 PM
bria(aka the pilgrim)
dies in volume 3

Soontir Solo
11-12-2004, 12:51 AM
This trilogy is actually one of the few EU Books that I haven't read.

Kapit
11-12-2004, 12:54 AM
it provides more backstory to han, and it was well done

it sets up why he has such a good rapport w/ wookiees, when he goes to the academy, right before he gets the falcon

it was good

Soontir Solo
11-12-2004, 01:46 AM
I might read it one day, but I am not sure because I didn't really like Agents of Chaos which focused almost entirely on Han.

Kapit
11-12-2004, 01:48 AM
i can't say i remember much aboot either, but i do know it was good, but it's up to you....

Soontir Solo
11-12-2004, 02:56 PM
If I see um around I might read them, but I won't go out of my way for them.

obstructed3ntity
11-15-2004, 01:14 AM
i just finished reading them and even though i've just started getting into these novels, i really liked this trilogy. i liked how it took you right up to "A New Hope" where Han meets obi-wan and luke.

Sam Kenobi
12-04-2004, 02:43 PM
I decided to re-read these books, and I have q question. Han refers to Deardrop shaped ships a lot. What are these ships. What do they look like? Are they Laamda (sp) class shuttles, or something else. I know that the Ylesian Dream, the Talisman, and the Bria are all described like this. Any thoughts?

Sam Kenobi
12-08-2004, 08:19 PM
*bump*

Jeff Darklighter
04-20-2006, 02:30 PM
I really liked those books. Might have to reread them in a few months.

Jeff Darklighter
04-20-2006, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Sam Kenobi@Dec 4 2004, 01:43 PM
I decided to re-read these books, and I have q question. Han refers to Deardrop shaped ships a lot. What are these ships. What do they look like? Are they Laamda (sp) class shuttles, or something else. I know that the Ylesian Dream, the Talisman, and the Bria are all described like this. Any thoughts?
They weren't Laamba shuttles. Think the Talisman is a yaht and the others are frieghters.

Here's a couple web pages I was able to find on these ships.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bria
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ylesian_Dream

TuskenRaider1
04-20-2006, 04:36 PM
Hard to compare these to Agents of Chaos SS. This is the lead up to the Han we know and love from teh movies, not the drunk depressed Han that exists at the beginning of NJO. Almost like writing diff charas. This was enjoyable for what it was.