EU lightsabres

[jangofett100]

Just when I thought that it had been decided that all Jedi would have blue or green sabres, Ganner has a yellow one in Traitor. How are they going to explain this?

[Clara]

And Kyp a violet. :p The Jedi of the New Order do not follow the traditions of the old, so you will find that there are many different colours, which is great when you're writing a fan fic. ;) Besides, I think its kinda cool, and heaps more interesting. :cool:

[Blizzard]

Just when I thought that it had been decided that all Jedi would have blue or green sabres

That is in George Lucas's universe. The EU is seperate and they have all colors. I think Leia's was gold and Corran had a silver one.

But Lucas's rule still doesn't hold true. He gave Mace a violet one.

But in everything Star Wars, the red lightsaber has stood mainly for evil and the Dark Side and is used by Sith and Dark Jedi. It's the only color that holds true.

[James T. Skywalker]

Ah, the Sith/Dark Jedi=red rule has an exception, and I'll give it right here:

I think Leia's was gold and Corran had a silver one.

Leia never had a gold lightsaber. You may be referring to the one on the cover of Planet of Twilight, but that one has been believed to be Callista's.

Before Planet of Twilight, Leia built her own lightsaber, and this one used a crystal that emmitted a red beam. She kept this one for several years, up through the Almanian, Black Fleet, and Caamas Document crisies. She eventually lost her lightsaber on Duro when she was captured and nearly murdered by Warmaster Tsavong Lah. After she healed from her wounds, Leia built a new lightsaber, which was also red.

Other lightsaber colors include bronze (Lowbacca's) and grey (Tenel Ka's first lightsaber).

~James T. Skywalker

[Justin]

A silver lightsaber? That would just look white.

[Zane Marit]

Depends on the shade justin...its all in the shade... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif


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[Darth Vegas]

Either way, silver, gold, and bronze lightsabers. That is just stupid.

It's all done with a little thing called a crystal, and crystals do not come in those colors.

[James T. Skywalker]

Well, not all of the Jedi lightsabers in the EU use the crystals that the Jedi from the Prequel-era used. The Ilum crystals, which were historically used by the Jedi of old, are rare to find in the New Republic era because the location of the planet was kept a secret by the Old Jedi Order...

...a secret they didn't tell Luke when they trained him. Thus, since then, Jedi have had to use other precious gems to serve as the main focusing components of the lightsaber. For example, Jacen used a corusca gem, the rarest of the precious gems in the galaxy found deep in the core of Yavin (it's basically a super, super compressed diamond with a much more complex structure). Jaina followed Luke's example and created her lightsaber gem synthetically. So, since they used different materials than the Old Jedi, it makes perfect sense for them to have different color lightsabers.

~James T. Skywalker

[Darth Vegas]

You should read the Visual Dictionaries, it clearly states that only a certain type of crystal can be used to make a lightsaber.

Oh and what do you mean rare to find? They are very abundant on the only planet they come from Adega. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

The Eu sucks so bad because there is such a lack of continuity.

[James T. Skywalker]

Oh and what do you mean rare to find? They are very abundant on the only planet they come from Adega.

They're also from Ilum (btw, the Visual Dictionary is technically more EU than the novelizations of the movies). In any case, both planets were only known by the Jedi, and that knowledge wasn't given to Luke, so alternative sources for lightsaber crystals had to be found.

The reason that continuity is so bad is because George keeps changing the story. It's not the EU's fault, but George does hold the creative control, so everyone lays the blame on the EU, which it doesn't deserve.

~JTS

[Rogue_0009]

I'm sorry to say that you are mistaken Mr. Bond, in SOTE it states that the old jedi preffered adegan crystals because of their clarity and focusing ability but others would work well.

[Swamprat_Jedi_Knight]

But in everything Star Wars, the red lightsaber has stood mainly for evil and the Dark Side and is used by Sith and Dark Jedi. It's the only color that holds true.

Not really. A female Jedi in the New Jedi Order had a red lightsaber. She was killed and Anakin used it for a while during a battle, along with his. I forget which book it is in, I think it was in "Hero's Trial", or "Jedi Eclipse".

[Justin]

I think the whole "multi-colored lightsabers" thing is downright silly. I think having a uniform look is better than a random smattering of colors. Having uniform lightsabers make the Jedi look spiffier and more organized.

[James T. Skywalker]

Well, that was all well and good for the Old Jedi Order, but I think the multitude of colors is symbolic of the fact that these Jedi are only just now reorganizing, only just now getting the traditions of the original Order back in place. So, since they aren't all uniform, since they aren't all organized, it makes sense that they don't have a uniform color for their lightsaber blades.

~JTS

[Justin]

That's why it's lame.

[James T. Skywalker]

Is your life really so dull that all you do in this forum is flame the opinions and ideas expressed here? That's lame, man. Really lame.

~JTS

[Flight]

<<Having uniform lightsabers make the Jedi look spiffier and more organized.>>


You would like to see "spiffy" Jedi? :0

"Organized", "uniform" Jedi? This last part's almost a touch Imperial, isn't it...

[Justin]

James, I'm not flaming your opinions, I'm saying that it's lame that the new Jedi are running around with all the colors of the rainbow in their lightsabers. I'm not saying YOU are lame. Sorry if you thought I was.

Flight, being organized isn't a bad thing. When you're an organization, especially a really important one, it's good to appear cohesive and not entirely random. The Rebel Alliance wore uniforms and were organized, and they were good guys.

[James T. Skywalker]

But that's the point, the Jedi of this era aren't organized, which is why it's a metaphor found in the color of their lightsabers. There's very little unity, no real organization other than the fact that they're called an "Order," so their colors are all disorganized.

Plus, most of the colorations for the lightsabers took place well before TPM or AOTC (specifically GL) limited the colors to four. And making one color only available to Mace was the most dumbass move I've ever heard, George, what are you thinking?

Also, the fact that Mace has a different color from the rest could represent a potential breakdown in the unity of the Old Order. As the Clone Wars progress, more and more Jedi could begin to rely on other gems to create lightsabers which they lost in battle, thus leading to different colored sabers and symbolizing the breaking point of the Order, when it becomes disorganized and defunct.

~JTS

[James T. Skywalker]

And Justin, sorry for lashing out. Thanks for clarifying.

~JTS

[Flight]

I agree with both of you guys. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

And: The New Jedi Order is something very different from the Old Order, both because of the different circumstances and because the new Order has very limited knowledge of the old Order.

Lightsaber colors are really among the least of all differences.

[jangofett100]

So we should ignore the Jedi council having multi coloured sabres in the earlier comics?

[Flight]

Not nearly as "colorful", though... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[vodo]

Hey mr Bond
< the EU sucks so bad because there is a lack of continuity>
Iam sorry to say that you are very wrong because the EU doesnt suck and the different coulered lightsber for a new era. The universe in the EU is not as clean and well shaved as the glory years of the old jedi order so they can have different coloured light sabers style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

[Clara]

EU does not suck. In truth, I prefer the EU over the movies (save NJO. I'll admit that thats bad). I believe the multicoloured blades to be a nice touch, as they reflect a characters personality. Somewhere I have a thing that tells one what colours stand for. I'll have to find it... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

[Justin]

Clara...you like the EU better than the films...?

Blasphemy!!!

[Luvinna.]

Now, really, Justin and TK 007 have every right to express their opinion that the EU sucks. And we have the right not to agree with them. It doens't really mean someone's right and someone's wrong.

Personally, I think the different colored lightsabers in the EU came about before GL gave any direction as to what the color represents. I think if he was so totally against it, he wouldn't have let them do it in the first place. Therefore, it must be okay with him. Just because blue, green and red are the primary colors of light doesn't mean you can't mix them to get other colors.

Oh, and Mace got a purple lightsaber because Sam Jackson asked for one. He wanted to be able to find himself on the screen in the big battle scenes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[Rogue_0009]

Hey, this isn't a EU trashing thread [even tough it rocks!!] we are here to discuss lightsabres which I liked having in multy colour cuz it sorta represents the diversity of the jedi.

[vodo]

I agree rouge 9 and I like the different colpured light sabers though the EU is better than most films exept rotj

[Enneth42]

I agree entirely... everything about a lightsaber (not just the color, but the whole construction) deeply reflects a Jedi's personality and the bond with his weapon. While colors should not be overused, I do feel they add a great deal to the characters, and fit in the individualistic nature of the New Jedi Order. Its also a return to some of the even older traditions, during the Tales of the Jedi comics, where the Jedi were far less rigid and also carried a variety of blade colors... and it seems the New order will have to face some of the same growing pains as its predecesor.
I would also like to note that a purple lightsaber is the universal bad-ass color, and no one deserves it more than Mace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[vodo]

amen to that

[lostjedi]

Originally posted by jangofett100@Aug 31 2002, 04:04 AM
Just when I thought that it had been decided that all Jedi would have blue or green sabres, Ganner has a yellow one in Traitor. How are they going to explain this?
In shadows of the empire when luke was making his new lightsaber he said that you could use real crystals or you could make one. they never said that you couldn't have other colors.

[jedisaber]

and not only the color, but the casings, like Tenel Ka's lightsaberin Young Jedi Knights:Lightsabers... she ends up making her lightsaber out of the hollowed out tooth/tusk of a Rancor... and i was wondering do ya think that a segment of bamboo would work... im kinda making my own model of what my lightsaber would look like, and i used bamboo

[vodo]

Lightsabers are traditionally made out of something really strong and durialble but Bamboo will do too

[jedisaber]

yes, because qouteing jackie chan, "dont worry, chinese bambo is very strong..." but we all know how that sceen ended dont we?!?!?!

[Whitesaber]

I agree entirely... everything about a lightsaber (not just the color, but the whole construction) deeply reflects a Jedi's personality and the bond with his weapon. While colors should not be overused, I do feel they add a great deal to the characters, and fit in the individualistic nature of the New Jedi Order. Its also a return to some of the even older traditions, during the Tales of the Jedi comics, where the Jedi were far less rigid and also carried a variety of blade colors... and it seems the New order will have to face some of the same growing pains as its predecesor.
I would also like to note that a purple lightsaber is the universal bad-ass color, and no one deserves it more than Mace

This is true. If you were a Jedi, wouldn't you like more choices besides blue and green? I think so. I chose white, anyways.

and not only the color, but the casings, like Tenel Ka's lightsaberin Young Jedi Knights:Lightsabers... she ends up making her lightsaber out of the hollowed out tooth/tusk of a Rancor... and i was wondering do ya think that a segment of bamboo would work... im kinda making my own model of what my lightsaber would look like, and i used bamboo

Bamboo?! This a gotta see! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[jedisaber]

well, i dont have a cam on my comp so i cant take a picture, and anyway, its not finished

[tahi]

BTW, Luke gave Leia a red lightsaber if I'm not mistaken in...we'll I can't remember the book.

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by JamesTSkywalker@Sep 2 2002, 07:58 PM
Leia never had a gold lightsaber. You may be referring to the one on the cover of Planet of Twilight, but that one has been believed to be Callista's.

You are right style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif In Children of the Jedi, Callista has a Topaz coloured lightsaber which the Jawa's give to Luke and he in return gives it back to Callista. It was found at the spot where she died near the computer core.

[tahi]

Ok, here's (http://www.newcollective.org/sbx/Lightsaber%20Color%20Chart.html) a website with lightsaber colors. There's no book references but I know Leia had a red one that Luke gaver her. So red doesn't always mean evil.

[bluemilk]

interesting site style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif but at least it backs up that Callista did have a topaz coloured lightsaber so mesa happy

[Senator_Cilghal]

If I remember correctly, the old Jedi (5000/4000 BBY) used Adegan crustals, generall green sabres were the result.

THe Prequel era Jedi primarily used Ilum crystals, blue or green, although some Jedi for special reasons used other crystals (Mace and certain other characters in the EU).

In the NJo, they use whatever.