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T-bone
04-23-2004, 10:56 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../pcworld/115810 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=14&u=/pcworld/115810)

Adobe Updates Digital Video Apps
Thu Apr 22, 4:00 PM ET
Anush Yegyazarian, PC World

LAS VEGAS-- Adobe has upgraded its professional video production products, adding a host of features to Premiere Pro, After Effects, and other applications. The company demonstrated the products in front of enthusiastic crowds at the National Association of Broadcasters convention here this week.

Highlights of the refreshed line include a new, powerful project-management tool in Premiere Pro, new animation presets and a cloning tool for After Effects, and more efficient workflow and integration with other related products in the whole Adobe Video Collection suite.

Each part of the Video Collection suite, now in version 2.5, is upgraded. The suite's four core components are Premiere Pro 1.5, a video editing package ($699, upgrade $99); After Effects 6.5, motion graphics and effects software (standard edition $699, pro edition $999, upgrade $99); Audition 1.5, an audio editing, mixing, and mastering program ($299, upgrade $69); and Encore DVD 1.5, a DVD authoring program ($549, upgrade $99).

The standard version of the suite will sell for $999, while the pro version will cost $1499 and include Photoshop CS. (Photoshop CS is also part of Adobe's Creative Suite for design and desktop publishing aficionados.) Users of previous standard or pro versions of the suite can upgrade to the corresponding new package for $249; users of the standard version can upgrade to the new pro version for $799. The suite and each of its new components are scheduled to become available this spring.

Project Power

Premiere Pro's new Project Manager is designed to make organizing a project easier. You can collect all files in a given project from their places on different hard drives and copy them to a new location, making it simpler to transfer and share that project. The original files are not deleted, just copied (you can delete them in a separate process).


More important, you can edit the project at lower resolutions to speed things up, save the new project without the unused clips, and then recapture at a higher resolution. Though it may not be sexy, a feature like this is critical for day-to-day work, says Richard Townhill, group product manager for Adobe Video Products.


Premiere Pro 1.5 can also import and export Advanced Authoring Format (AAF) and Edit Decision List (EDL) files, so shops with multiple editing platforms can share work more effectively.


Effects have also gotten a boost. With new Bezier keyframe controls, editors can create smoother, more natural motion in animations. Effects Favorites lets you save any effect parameters as a preset option for quick reuse. And True 3D effects take advantage of the processing power in high-end graphics cards to preserve 3D effects even when the image gets moved around or rotated.


The upgraded package also lets you cut and paste between Premiere Pro and After Effects, preserving essential object qualities. Additionally, you get four one-touch color adjustments, similar to Photoshop CS.

Snazzy, Speedy, Efficient

Thanks to new features and plug-ins, working with After Effects 6.5 will be faster. It features a new disk-caching system that speeds up real-time playback and previews.


GridIron Software's X-Factor plug-in for After Effects 6.5 Professional will also help you complete your work faster. The plug-in turns a small network into a shared computing environment so that the processing power of multiple connected systems works together to speed up rendering and previewing. It also leaves you power for other tasks.


The basic version, for use with two computers, is available for free. X-Factor Plus costs $99 per CPU, and X-Factor Unlimited costs $1995.


The new Effects & Presets palette makes your work more efficient, as well. It allows you to store effects, transformations, masks, expressions, and text as an animation preset for reuse. The program offers 60 new effects, such as Light Burst (ray-of-light transition), and Particle World (for smoke or sparks), and 250 text Animation Presets.


The Advanced Cloning Tool includes a visual overlay of the source over the intended target so you can better see what you're about to do. You can access and save five new clone presets from the Paint palette. New, too, are a number of color correction and grain management tools, though the grain management is available only in the pro version.


The upgrade also improves After Effects' OpenGL support.

Working Together

Like Premiere Pro, the new After Effects is more tightly integrated with other Adobe products, so you can fully edit text from Photoshop CS files. You can also preserve the layers in files between the two programs to a much greater degree. The new version lets you import Encore DVD menus and use After Effects to change groups of layers into buttons or a video background. Likewise, menus you create in After Effects preserve their attributes in Encore.


The improved interoperability within the Adobe product family is apparent when you're creating a DVD with Encore DVD 1.5. Markers in Premiere or After Effects AVI or MPEG-2 files will be made into chapter points automatically, among other benefits.

You also get better design via a Library palette that lets you organize items such as menus, buttons, and backgrounds. The new Styles Palette lets you store Photoshop CS layer effects like shadows and glows to change menu elements. This version adds support for the QuickTime format.

Users of Audition 1.5 get new editing and effects tools as well. With the Frequency Space editing feature, you can isolate any sound within a specific frequency range--say, a buzzing plane in the background--and edit it out or add effects to it. Also new are a Pitch Correction tool and a Click/Pop Eliminator that lets you clean up audio, among other improvements.

Apple Computer also unveiled a number of its own new or upgraded pro video and multimedia products at NAB.

T-bone
04-26-2004, 05:44 PM
So who's using what these days?

Sith_Mikeximus
05-02-2004, 05:37 PM
I need an upgrade, I have adobe photoshop 6.0 and adobe premier 6.0. I liek them both, I tried the later version of photoshop over my buddies house, and it was nice, but, none of the moola for trade right now, so 6.0 is where I'm at...

kopernikuz
05-03-2004, 03:24 PM
I bought the package mentioned in the article when I got my new computer earlier this year. The speed and ease over previous incarnations of Adobe Premiere or AE is phenomenal... it's like a whole new program, but even easier to use.

The Bandit
05-04-2004, 12:53 AM
I'm using a combination of Final Cut Pro HD 4.5, Photoshop CS and DVD Studio Pro at the moment and am very happy with it. Most of the reviews I've read of Premiere Pro have compared it to Final Cut Express rather than FCP.

The best I've seen for the PC is Vegas Video, and it really pales in comparison to FCP.

My current camera is a Panasonic AG-DVX100A. It's a mini-DV format that does either 24p, 30p or 60i. I have a tendancy to shoot in 24p. I'm currently part of a group developing a 35mm depth of field adapter for this camera to give the video a more film-like look.

Anyone interested in my current project can check out www.downeffect.com -- the script is online.

-- 2bq

Weebacca the Wookie
05-13-2004, 05:38 PM
Hey! I've had a little experience with both Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro, but I'm wondering if any of you have ever tried Avid Xpress DV and if you have what do you think of it compared to PP and FCP?

(I've heard it's supposed to be better than the both of them, but how much better? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif )

T-bone
05-13-2004, 05:42 PM
I gots to get me some of that software.

The Bandit
05-14-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by Weebacca the Wookie@May 13 2004, 03:38 PM
Hey! I've had a little experience with both Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro, but I'm wondering if any of you have ever tried Avid Xpress DV and if you have what do you think of it compared to PP and FCP?

(I've heard it's supposed to be better than the both of them, but how much better? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif )
I've not used Avid in any form. The majority of my cutting experience is on FCP, but I've also used older versions of Premiere and Media 100 fairly extensively.

FCP runs well on my (now) ancient G4 800, although rendering times are always a PITA. A nice dual processor G5 could probably solve that, but at the moment all of my cashflow is going into production on a project I'm working on.

-- 2bq

Weebacca the Wookie
05-16-2004, 05:00 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've not used Avid in any form. The majority of my cutting experience is on FCP, but I've also used older versions of Premiere and Media 100 fairly extensively.[/b][/quote]

Wow! Media 100!! Just when I'd started to realise I'm the only person around with Media 100 experience (and who's actually still using it!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif ) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif , 2 Butterflies Quarrleing saved me from thinking I'm a dinosaur... Thanks! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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T-bone
07-08-2004, 12:19 PM
Yea I gotta get my hands on that new Adobe Premiere.
DVD burners are going to drop this summer, I heard.

Weebacca the Wookie
09-26-2004, 09:47 AM
I've just started editing on Final Cut Pro 4 and I must say that was quite a new experience compared to Media 100 and Premiere Pro (even though I really like Premiere)! I really enjoy it! It's definately the best editing system I've ever used! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I still haven't tested Avid Xpress DV yet so I don't know how that compares to Final Cut, but I expect that I will get a chance to test it within a few months...

Sam Kenobi
04-14-2005, 06:15 AM
Well, I've been interested in fan filmmaking for quite some time. For a, for lack of a better word, beginner, what is the best route to take. What are the best programs to use for cheap. I'm on a "student budget," which means I never have any money. What is the best kind of camera. Some kind of DV, I assume. Thanks.

Kapit
04-14-2005, 01:38 PM
i don't wanna steal your spotlight here, sam, but i've got a question as well, and i figured this was the best thread for it

i'm gonna build a computer this summer, with a budget of around $1500-$2000 (depends on how much i work) and i want to build a gaming/animating (3d, flash, photoshop, etc) computer

any suggestions on hardware? and if you know any great sites besides pricewatch.com or newegg.com, by all means post them

thanks! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Trilogist
04-16-2005, 04:54 PM
http://www.abitgamer.com/

Sam Kenobi
04-18-2005, 05:41 AM
So I'm assuming that thread was for JK?

And JK, no problemo.

Trilogist
04-26-2005, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by JediKaputski@Apr 14 2005, 10:38 AM
i don't wanna steal your spotlight here, sam, but i've got a question as well, and i figured this was the best thread for it

i'm gonna build a computer this summer, with a budget of around $1500-$2000 (depends on how much i work) and i want to build a gaming/animating (3d, flash, photoshop, etc) computer

any suggestions on hardware? and if you know any great sites besides pricewatch.com or newegg.com, by all means post them

thanks! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
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Well, some things to look for: graphics card using PCI Xpress, Serial ATA hard drive, DDR2 memory ... of course that combination means you'd probably have to go Intel over AMD.

Trilogist
04-29-2005, 12:16 AM
Okay, I have a question to all you film experts out there. I'm helping someone with a Star Wars fan film. We're using your basic DV camcorder, but I'm not happy with the sound from the built in microphone. What are some effective yet low-budget recommendations to get some good quality sound for this video?

From what I've researched on the internet, I can try to get a cheap Minidisc player/recorder and buy a stereo microphone. I can then use that audio to replace/supplement what I have with the camcorder. Is this a good idea or bad?

The Bandit
04-29-2005, 12:46 AM
How much do you want to spend on a mic setup Tril?

Are you just looking for something to mount on your DV camera to offer better sound than the built-in omni mic?

I've got two different mics -- one around $300 when I bought it and one around $700. The cheaper one is a Sennheiser MKE 300 which is a mono hyper-cardioid (shogun) mic with a 1/8" mini-jack input and is shoe mountable. I used this to shoot my documentary and was very happy with the results -- works great for run and gun.

The other mic is a Sennheiser 416 (I believe) mic with XLR interface. I got it used on eBay from Germany for $700 last year (actually bought a pair so it was $1400 -- don't remember if I caught a break on the price because of that or not). We used this mic on our feature film project and boomed everything... used carbon fiber boom poles to reduce noise and because they were lighter... mounted the mics in shock mounts and cabled XLR to the camera. Great sound outdoors and in larger indoor spaces, but in smaller indoor spaces you get some echoing just by the design of the mic. There's another Sennheiser mic that is recommended for smaller indoor spaces but I don't remember the model number offhand. I think it was around $500 when we were researching it.

I'm not huge on the minidisc approach -- you're going to find yourself having to sync up the sound in the editing room which is a major pain. You'd be better off getting some sort of mic that allows you to record audio directly to the mini-DV tape.

-- 2bq

Trilogist
04-29-2005, 10:31 PM
Thanks for the info. I don't have a pro DV camcorder, just your basic mini-DV cam for doing home videos. I'm not happy with the built in mic, but I don't think I can go pro with an XLR mic. Besides, a bit too much out of my budget style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

So I won't go the minidisc route. Now I need to find an affordable mic that can record in stereo. Shooting actors with dialogue, outdoors. The mic would need to plug into the camcorder's mic in or line in.

I've been browsing around the internet. I've seen several nice Sony microphones, some mono and some stereo.

Trilogist
04-30-2005, 06:27 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif I'm in love ...

Panasonic PV-GS150 (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-J0wgY9x45zw/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=53700&I=133PVGS150)

Best price I've seen on a <span style="color:red">3 CCD</span> camcorder ...

Sam Kenobi
05-03-2005, 07:44 AM
So Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 is the newest Adobe one, and the best one out there?