MOVIES: Batman [Archive] - Page 17

RollaFett

10-09-2008, 01:08 PM

Back cover of TDK DVD confirms IMAX scenes!

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/the-dark-knight.html
Not only that, but they are also supposed to be presented in a different aspect ratio for blu-ray as well. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa160.html#darkaspect
While I do like this, part of me would have preferred it to have been included as an option instead of the only version in the set.

Mark Skywalker

10-11-2008, 03:17 PM

Back cover of TDK DVD confirms IMAX scenes!

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/the-dark-knight.html

SWEET !!!!

Mark Skywalker

10-13-2008, 01:40 AM

TWO-Face action figure
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2929839462_4e6f4a7258_o.jpg
http://us.f6.yahoofs.com/hkblog/hwgTYkGDARVDuIUrsg--_5/blog/20081013084713784.jpg.jpg?ib_____DpCK.Bblc
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2838/2ffffwf9.jpg

empire21

10-13-2008, 08:12 AM

Not only that, but they are also supposed to be presented in a different aspect ratio for blu-ray as well. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa160.html#darkaspect
While I do like this, part of me would have preferred it to have been included as an option instead of the only version in the set.

Very interesting. :scratchchin:

Raganork8

10-13-2008, 09:44 AM

I HAVE TO GET THAT TWO-FACE FIGURE!!!!

Mark Skywalker

10-16-2008, 07:32 PM

TV’s ‘Batman’ Theme Song Composer Neal Hefti, R.I.P. (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/10/15/tvs-batman-theme-song-composer-neal-hefti-rip/)

Published by Casey Seijas (http://splashpage.mtv.com/author/caseyseijas/) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 at 5:45 pm.

Sad news out of Hollywood today, as acclaimed composer, arranger and jazz trumpeter, Neal Hefti, passed away on Saturday from “undetermined causes.” He was 85-years-old.
While Hefti’s work could be heard on such classic television shows as “The Odd Couple” and films including “Barefoot in the Park,” comic fans know him best as the composer behind the iconic theme to the ’60s “Batman” TV series, for which he won a Grammy Award.
The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/arts/music/16hefti.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)has an extensive story up, chronicling Hefti’s career, which notes that, in addition to his film and television work, Hefti also worked with such notable talent as Frank Sinatra, Doris Day, Mel Tormé and Tony Bennett.
In a telephone interview with his son, Paul, he recalls the evolution of the classic theme song to “Batman.”
“He told me he tore up more paper on ‘Batman’ than on any other work he ever did,” Paul Hefti said in the Times piece. “He had to find something that worked with the lowest common denominator, so it would appeal to kids, yet wouldn’t sound stupid. What he came up with was a 12-bar blues with a guitar hook and one word.”
Sad to hear the news? Are you a fan of the 1960’s “Batman” television show? Got that theme song stuck in your head like we do?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/10/15/tvs-batman-theme-song-composer-neal-hefti-rip/

Morridini

10-17-2008, 04:15 AM

That's the "Nanananananananananananan BATMAN" theme?

Raganork8

10-17-2008, 08:47 AM

That's the "Nanananananananananananan BATMAN" theme?

Yes

Mark Skywalker

10-18-2008, 02:14 AM

That's the "Nanananananananananananan BATMAN" theme?

Yes
[Tv version]
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[Full version]
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Mark Skywalker

10-18-2008, 02:47 AM

This is pretty badass
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Mark Skywalker

10-18-2008, 02:28 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenmoo2005/sets/72157607989064608/

Mark Skywalker

10-18-2008, 09:29 PM

The latest Catwoman rumor for The Dark Knight sequel

Rhona Mitra as Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman ?

http://www.superheroflix.com/news/NEqUmvrrjWczuq

empire21

10-19-2008, 07:59 AM

The latest Catwoman rumor for The Dark Knight sequel

Rhona Mitra as Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman ?

http://www.superheroflix.com/news/NEqUmvrrjWczuq

That would be cool if it's true, she is pretty hot.

Mark Skywalker

10-19-2008, 10:30 AM

THE DARK KNIGHT cleans up Big Time @ Spike TV's "SCREAM 2008

Box office hit and critically acclaimed film, "The Dark Knight" dominated the competition collecting twelve awards including the nights' most prestigious award, The Ultimate Scream, accepted by the films' producers, Charles Roven, Emma Thomas and Christopher Nolan. "The Dark Knight" co-stars Christian Bale, Heath Ledger and Gary Oldman each scored awards, as Bale took home Best Superhero and Oldman Best Supporting Actor, while Ledger was named both Best Fantasy Actor and Best Villain for his portrayal of the Joker. Director Christopher Nolan scored the Best Director trophy and the Best Screamplay, along with Jonathon Nolan and David S. Goyer.

Winner in these categories.

Ultimate Scream
Best Actor in a Fantasy Movie - Heath Ledger
Best Superhero - Christian Bale
Best Villain - The Joker
Best Supporting Performance - Gary Oldman
Best Director - Christopher Nolan
Best Comic Book Movie
Best F/X
Best Line - "I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you stranger"
The "Holy ****!" Scene of the Year - Big rig flip
Best Screenplay
Best Sequel

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/story/legendary-filmmaker-george-lucas-makes/story.aspx?guid={33401F82-634A-4107-834D-95FF07917002}&dist=hppr (http://www.marke****ch.com/news/story/legendary-filmmaker-george-lucas-makes/story.aspx?guid=%7B33401F82-634A-4107-834D-95FF07917002%7D&dist=hppr)

Master Magnus

10-19-2008, 02:57 PM

The latest Catwoman rumor for The Dark Knight sequel

Rhona Mitra as Selina Kyle, AKA Catwoman ?

http://www.superheroflix.com/news/NEqUmvrrjWczuq
Meow! :kitty:

Talcy

10-19-2008, 04:47 PM

Every single one of these rumours reminds me of the same kind of rumours during the time between the Schumacher bat films. Same kind of approach of the media to the whole thing, meaning that any rumours we hear right now are complete bollocks. My thought on the matter at least.

Unless we hear from Nolan, Goyer or WB, it's all bunk to me.

Justin

10-21-2008, 11:00 PM

I've been a fan of Rhona Mitra since I saw that sh!tty Beowulf movie (she was the incredibly hot chick), so that would be great if she played Catwoman. I may boycott the movie if Angelina Jolie is Catwoman. I'm kind of sick of her.

Mark Skywalker

10-24-2008, 02:40 AM

The Dark Knight Special Edition Soundtrack Coming
Source:Tom Tinneny
October 23, 2008

Warner Bros. Records will release a Special Edition version of The Dark Knight soundtrack on December 9. Not much is known about the release, but the Amazon.com listing states that it includes two discs.

Stay tuned for more updates on the Special Edition Soundtrack.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7758

Mark Skywalker

10-26-2008, 04:45 AM

TDK LEGO Special Edition : The Complete set
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2930507210_30897d2a57_b.jpg

empire21

10-26-2008, 07:37 AM

LOL!

I forgot about the Joker in the nurse outfit. :laughing:

Raganork8

10-26-2008, 08:38 AM

I need to have ALL of them!

Morridini

10-27-2008, 11:51 AM

Pft, didn't like the Two-Face one, might as well just buy two Harvey Den'ts and then dip half of one of them in gas and burn a home made Two-Face.

Raganork8

10-27-2008, 12:37 PM

Pft, didn't like the Two-Face one, might as well just buy two Harvey Den'ts and then dip half of one of them in gas and burn a home made Two-Face.

Yeah; it's also incorrect; considering that Dent has hair on only 1 side of his head after the accident.

P-Ray

10-28-2008, 11:32 AM

Will Nolan do a 3rd Batman?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=50014

Jjm3233

10-28-2008, 01:06 PM

The Lego's look cool, and let's hope Nolan finds the story he's looking for.

RollaFett

10-28-2008, 03:50 PM

That was quite the slippery answer he gave, but I gotta say, it sounded to me that he's leaning towards doing a 3rd film. I'm offically excited now.

Justin

10-28-2008, 03:59 PM

borgmatrix

10-28-2008, 06:45 PM

(if they didn't, then all that crap about him running from the law was pointless).
No, it wasn't. The point was to define what it means to be a "Dark Knight", the kinds of things Batman can and will do and the type of hero he is. And that was accomplished. No other movie is necessary from Nolan.

Raganork8

10-28-2008, 09:01 PM

I think it's pretty clear he wants to do another one, he and his brother along with David Goyer wrote the end of Dark Knight to set up the story of another film (if they didn't, then all that crap about him running from the law was pointless).

He's most assuredly being coy about it so he can negotiate a bigger pay day for the third one, and there's no shame in that. That's smart business. I think he'd be an idiot to just come out and say "yeah I wanna do a third one!!" before negotiating with the studio.

By letting some time pass and appearing to be considering NOT making another one, he is getting himself into a better bargaining position with the studio.

No, it wasn't. The point was to define what it means to be a "Dark Knight", the kinds of things Batman can and will do and the type of hero he is. And that was accomplished. No other movie is necessary from Nolan.

To Justin: Yeah; I agree with you; but, I wanna throw out that D.C. is essentially holding ALL their plans back waiting for Nolan to make a choice. I think they're going to bow to him either way. I think if he came out and said "I'd make one for 3 dollars" he could still get a good deal out of it. Nolan is almost running D.C. right about now and with good right

To Borg: :yes:

Mark Skywalker

10-29-2008, 02:03 AM

Raganork8

10-29-2008, 08:39 AM

The way Nolan answered to doing a third movie tells me he's in charge ... not the studio . Which IMO sounds great because movie 3 has a chance to do the impossible in this kinda of genre . which is to make an even better film that surpasses the first two films .

I couldn't agree more; but, at the same time Nolan has set himself up for failure.

Dark Knight was something special, something that doesn't happen too often. Like Casino Royale. Can e really recreate that formula? With Ledger gone and the idea of a recasting seemingly a doomsday button, it's not impossible, but let's face it it's unlikely. So many people loved TDK simply for the fact that Ledger was amazing. and because the Joker is such a beloved character.

How are you going to top that? How are you going to find a character that's more interesting or as interesting at Joker and then an actor to portray that character?

I think Nolan see's the problem; and he has a hell of a good point with the "How many third films in a trilogy can you remember?" they're generally the worst.

Look at Return of The Jedi It was almost the total opposite of The Empire Strikes Back which expanded on A New Hope. Jedi seemed to backtrack and give us things we already knew and a somewhat awkward view of the universe we had grown to love after two movies. Not that it was "bad" it just seemed odd in the trilogy.

So the Third Batman film has a hell of a lot to live up to and I think it does come down to story as well as if Chris Nolan wants to do it! WB/D.C. is almost being run by this guys temperaments.

He can do whatever; and you know what? I'm fine with it; he gave me a movie I will not soon forget and I'm satisfied.

kopernikuz

10-29-2008, 09:05 AM

I agree completely about the "third" kind of curse... but would argue that ROTJ does not fall into that category. It is one of the few "thirds" that I feel deserves it's place in its trilogy. Yes, there are aspects I'm not crazy about... and no it certainly isn't as good as TESB... but as a whole trilogy it fits great.

I point films like Spiderman and X-men as examples of how the third movie failed miserably... but then again, those third movies really were not strict "continuations" of a plot line like ROTJ was... so they're not as prone to being taken in as a "whole" like the OT is. Ie: We can ignore them, lol. You can't ignore ROTJ without blowing the closure, ya know? So it worked for me in that respect.

BB and TDK do a pretty good job of presenting new stories, but still continuing the themes and development drawn up in each other... if the third film can carry this through as well and make them feel as a cohesive "whole"... no it might not be as awesome as TDK... but could be as brilliant and a nice final piece of a whole, therefore maintaining the trilogy.

But as others have pointed out... TDK does provide a level of closure to the theme... so it's not required to be completed... but I think there is more that can be done and would certainly like to see Nolan be the one to do it.

Raganork8

10-29-2008, 09:20 AM

kopernikuz

10-29-2008, 09:23 AM

There's always The Last Crusade :)

Raganork8

10-29-2008, 09:25 AM

P-Ray

10-29-2008, 10:54 AM

Absolutely; that and Return of the King

Are one of the few third installments that I can say really had me as hooked as I was when I started; if not more.

Rare exceptions; but, really they came that way through good pacing.
See I personally feel that ROTK fits the 3rd movie in the trilogy problem.

I thought that the first 2 were much better:wink:

Raganork8

10-29-2008, 10:58 AM

Really?

It's not the first time I heard it; but, I don't understand why? The long ending(s)?

P-Ray

10-29-2008, 11:15 AM

Really?

It's not the first time I heard it; but, I don't understand why? The long ending(s)?
Yeah...that was some of it!

It was just long and a little "dragged on", IMO and I though a little convulted at times.

I thought 2 Towers was much better!

Raganork8

10-29-2008, 11:17 AM

Yeah I get you; I can understand that.

RollaFett

10-29-2008, 04:53 PM

Can't forget about ROTS for a 3rd entry. To most people, including me, it was the best of the PT.
But there certainly have been enough forgettable 3rd entries that I can understand Nolan's concern. One thing that shouldn't be overlokked, though, is how many of those 3rd films were made by the same guy who made the first two?
Trilogies with the same director, and bad results for the third film (off the top of my head):
Spider-Man - Sam Raimi

Trilogies with the same director, and good results for the third film:
Indiana Jones - Steven Speilberg
Star Wars PT - George Lucas (say what you will, but the 3rd is widely considered the best one)
LOTR - Peter Jackson (sure, I don't care for these films, but there's no denying the quality of the filmmaking and I didn't see any drop off with the 3rd entry)

Trilogies with a different director for 3rd film, and blah results:
Original Batman films - Tim Burton to Joel Scumacher (while BF wasn't that bad, it paled in comparison to Burton's films)
X-Men - Bryan Singer to Brett Ratner (need I say more)
Jurrasic Park - Steven Speilberg to Joe Johnston
Superman - Richard Donner to Richard Lester (I know Lester gets credit for the 2nd film as well, but gimme a break)
Terminator - James Cameron to Jonathan Mostow

I know I'm forgetting some examples here, but my overall point is that if you retain the same creative talent for all three films, you have a pretty damn good chance of making a good 3rd film. Sam Raimi is the sole example I could think of as not working out. (and yay, he seems to be back for two more. Balls.)

Talcy

10-29-2008, 05:14 PM

Yeah, but a lot of those results are affected by nore creatives than just the director. Sam Raimi didn't want Venom in 3 and was forced to accept the character, shoehorned in by writers at the studio's behest.

Spielberg has total creative control (mostly, Mr Lucas...) and the Star Wars films are indies (yep) and so Lucas had complete creative control there (and there's a different argument on sole creative control).

Consitence of vision is what is needed, not muddied by execs and some producers wanting to get their wee bit included for the sake of their egos. Nolan had that on his Bat films. Sam Raimi did not on his Spider-Man films. Each studio has their own agenda (see Fox, Tom Rothman and X-Men for more...) and the degree to which they either choose to flex their muscles or trust the creative team is what can affect the quality of the films we're talking about. If Nolan is stil in the same position, as I'm sure he is, then it's all down to him coming up with an idea he likes enough to make. If he gets execs suddenly wanting to interfere, then he'll likely walk rather than lose control as Raimi did.

RollaFett

10-29-2008, 05:20 PM

Yeah, I understand what you mean, and actually I think it illustrates my point even more. The more the director is in control of the creative process in that 3rd film, the better chance for success. If said director isn't even there any longer, well, I'd say that that's a pretty good example of not being in control of the creative process.
In any case, I think we agree that Nolan's return for a 3rd film can most likely net only positive results.

P-Ray

10-30-2008, 11:56 AM

2 more parts to the Nolan interview!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=7768

JSunday

10-30-2008, 04:41 PM

He's got a point about the part threes. ROTK is the only one that springs to mind as on the same level as the first two. I guess SITH as well. Not many though.

Morridini

10-30-2008, 05:16 PM

None of you found RotJ to be on par with ANH and ESB? I sure did.

Raganork8

10-30-2008, 07:07 PM

None of you found RotJ to be on par with ANH and ESB? I sure did.

Not at all; ROTJ is anemic and fatigued

kopernikuz

10-30-2008, 07:09 PM

Wow... I wouldn't go that far, lol... I like it less of the three, but love it as part of the whole as I said before. I thought it was a lot of fun...

Raganork8

10-30-2008, 07:14 PM

I think it's a fun movie too!

I thought rehashing the Death Star and Vader being...emasculated kind of really threw it off.

I miss Vader being the bad ass in TESB; especially because of the ending which was so neat.

The Jabba thing was too long too.

I don't know; I like Jedi; but, I think that there were things that were missed that could have made it better

kopernikuz

10-30-2008, 07:23 PM

I don't know; I like Jedi; but, I think that there were things that were missed that could have made it better
We're probably on mostly the same page here then... I agree with this part. :)

Raganork8

10-30-2008, 07:25 PM

mainly i feel the deleted scenes; what I know of them; all should have been included

borgmatrix

10-30-2008, 09:36 PM

I don't know; I like Jedi; but, I think that there were things that were missed that could have made it better
Given this is a Batman thread, I think we're talking about the wrong ROTJ. :)

But, yeah, I agree. It's still a fun movie, but it does have a lot of problems.

I certainly wouldn't want to see a Batman equivalent. Of course, even with a stumble of a third movie I can't imagine getting anything as bad as B&R.

RollaFett

10-31-2008, 04:17 PM

None of you found RotJ to be on par with ANH and ESB? I sure did.
Well, my point was about film series where the same director was involved with the 3rd entry, or not. In the OT for SW's case, there was a different director for each film so my theory/argument doesn't apply to them.

Mark Skywalker

11-01-2008, 05:20 AM

None of you found RotJ to be on par with ANH and ESB? I sure did.

I do too .

The Ewoks may have been annoying . But ROTJ not only had good closure to the saga IMO . But that last Lightsaber duel between Luke vs. Darth Vader is one of my top favorites of all time . The Emperor was a force to be reckoned with . plus we saw the Redemption of Anakin Skywalker through his son Luke Skywalker .

ROTJ totally owned the PT trilogy both seprate and together .

Ranking
1. ESB
2. ROTJ
3. ANH
4. ROTS
5. TPM
6. AOTC

Now let's get back to discussing Batman .

Mark Skywalker

11-01-2008, 05:30 AM

lol if any of you watched "The Office" on Thursday night on NBC you would've seen a nice tribute to Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker in "The Dark Knight" as one of the characters from the office dress like Ledger's Joker from TDK in the opening segment of the show.

Check out the clip
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Mark Skywalker

11-01-2008, 02:25 PM

Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe - BATMAN vs. Sub-Zero

KICKASS I can't wait to beat everyone in MK as THE DARK KNIGHT

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RollaFett

11-01-2008, 04:07 PM

Mark Skywalker

11-04-2008, 08:07 PM

New Batman cartoon (*sigh*) I figured the tptb at Warner animation would've learned from their mistake with The BATMAN . I guess not .

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Batman: The Brave and the Bold
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/promotion_landing_page/batman/

When are this morons going to realize a kid friendly Batman isn't what we the fans want to see . We want to see a badass Dark Knight animated series that's like BATMAN : The animated series .

borgmatrix

11-04-2008, 08:34 PM

When are this morons going to realize a kid friendly Batman isn't what we the fans want to see . We want to see a badass Dark Knight animated series that's like BATMAN : The animated series .
Look, they've done that. And unlike The Batman, this is clearly meant to be a throwback to an earlier Batman. It's not an attempt at a serious Batman, and I think that's fine. I don't know if I'll be checking it out, and we'll have to see whether there's an audience for it, but it could be fun. That, ultimately, seems to be what they're going for.

We've gotten all the seriousness we could hope or ask for with the Nolan films, so I think its good they're going in different directions with other projects. We don't need the same thing shoved down our throats everytime Batman's involved.

RollaFett

11-05-2008, 02:03 PM

I concur. I do agree that this new animated series looks absolutely horrible, though. But you know what? I simply won't be watching. There are plenty of options available to experience a dark Batman. One of which will be available on December 9th.

Justin

11-05-2008, 02:35 PM

I think it actually looks kind of cool, and the animation looks good.

Raganork8

11-05-2008, 03:24 PM

Well the song sucked...

At least Spectacular Spider-Man song was a bit catchy...

Spectacular, spectacular Spider-Man!

Mark Skywalker

11-05-2008, 05:11 PM

There are plenty of options available to experience a dark Batman. One of which will be available on December 9th.

WORD !!!!!!:bat:

DblDwn

11-05-2008, 06:33 PM

I just downloaded The Dark Knight off of Demonoid. Pretty good quality on the video. That should hold me over nicely until the 9th.

empire21

11-07-2008, 06:22 AM

Well, heres some good news.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7787

P-Ray

11-07-2008, 07:41 AM

Well, heres some good news.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7787
Now that is good news!:wink::yes:

Raganork8

11-07-2008, 08:48 AM

I knew Obama would bring change! :nahnah:

Mark Skywalker

11-07-2008, 02:35 PM

Well, heres some good news.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7787

Excellent news .:hyper:

RollaFett

11-07-2008, 04:27 PM

Whew! I just know I would've suckered myself into watching that too! Now I don't have to worry about it.

P-Ray

11-07-2008, 04:32 PM

Whew! I just know I would've suckered myself into watching that too! Now I don't have to worry about it.
:laughing:I probably would have too!:wink:

Mark Skywalker

11-08-2008, 01:57 PM

^ Word

Mark Skywalker

11-12-2008, 01:37 PM

For Your Consideration, The Dark Knight (http://www.hd-trailers.org/2008/11/for-your-consideration-the-dark-knight/)
WB opens official Oscar Consideration website.

Raganork8

11-12-2008, 01:50 PM

Here's to hoping! :beer:

The movie deserves it

I can't wait to see it in January

Mark Skywalker

11-12-2008, 01:52 PM

3 Exclusive TDK DVD clips 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmb...e-heath-ledger (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2008/nov/12/the-dark-knight-batman-christian-bale-heath-ledger)

Mark Skywalker

11-12-2008, 03:08 PM

http://d.imagehost.org/0591/Batmania_by_Global_Stage_Orchestra.jpg
From Amazon:
"2008 three CD set. The enormous worldwide success of The Dark Knight has turned the world into Batmaniacs...again! Since the dawn of the original comic book, through the campy TV series right up to the series of films, Batman has evolved into something much more dark than our imaginations ever wanted to know about! This triple disc set features the Global Stage Orchestra performing the scores of five of the most popular Batman motion pictures: Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman Begins and, of course, The Dark Knight. Sit back relax and enjoy...same bat time, same bat channel! 30-tracks in all. Deluxe."

Disk 1:
01. The Dark Knight: Why So Serious?
02. The Dark Knight: Harvey Two-Face
03. The Dark Knight: A Dark Knight
04. The Dark Knight: Aggressive Expansion
05. The Dark Knight: Blood on My Hands
06. The Dark Knight: I Am the Batman
07. The Dark Knight: Watch the World Burn
08. The Dark Knight: I'm Not a Hero
09. Batman Begins: Eptesicus
10. Batman Begins: Myotis

Disk 2:
01. Batman Begins: Tadarida
02. Batman Begins: Macrotus
03. Batman Begins: Nycteris
04. Batman Begins: Lasiurus
05. Batman Begins: Corynorhinus
06. Batman Forever: Chase Blanc
07. Batman Forever: Victory
08. Batman Forever: The Pull of Regret
09. Batman Forever: The Perils of Gotham
10. Batman Forever: Chase Noir

Disk 3:
01. Batman Forever: Mouth to Mouth Nocturne
02. Batman Forever: Two-Face Three Step
03. Batman Returns: The Cemetery
04. Batman Returns: The Rise and Fall From Grace
05. Batman Returns: Sore Spots
06. Batman Returns: The Children's Hour
07. Batman Returns: The Final Confrontation
08. Batman Returns: End Credits
09. Batman Returns: The Finale
10. Batman: Batman Theme

Link to Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Music-Knight-O...6264914&sr=1-5

Listen to samples:
http://www.emusic.com/album/Batmania.../11305803.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/Batmania-Batmania-MP3-Download/11305803.html)

Justin

11-12-2008, 03:18 PM

For Your Consideration, The Dark Knight (http://www.hd-trailers.org/2008/11/for-your-consideration-the-dark-knight/)
WB opens official Oscar Consideration website.
I think it should be nominated for Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Cinematography as well.

P-Ray

11-12-2008, 03:40 PM

Here's to hoping! :beer:

The movie deserves it

True Dat!:rockon:

Grand Admiral Thrawn

11-12-2008, 04:19 PM

Okay... does anyone else find this completely and utterly ridiculous?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081112/en_movies_eo/68391

Morridini

11-12-2008, 04:44 PM

Haha, just great.

Did some searching on that mayor, and came to two interesting notes:

"He gained international notoriety after it was revealed that he had filed a lawsuit against DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) for using his city's name in their Batman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman) Comic book franchise. In 2007, DC Comics confirmed that they had settled with the city for an undisclosed amount"

"In February 2008 the mayor was sentenced to 10 months in jail for promoting terrorism. Prosecutors speculated that Kalkan may have used money from his settlement with DC Comics to fund terrorism"

With that track record....I don't think anyone will take him seriously.

Master Magnus

11-12-2008, 04:48 PM

Okay... does anyone else find this completely and utterly ridiculous?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081112/en_movies_eo/68391
Yeah, I read that earlier and it's truly bizarre and ridiculous. Well, pick 'em while they're ripe... And shhh, don't tell the mayor he's planning on suing the wrong entity... :P

EDIT: Oh, the city had already settled with DC Comics... How did it even come to that? As far as I'm aware of international copyright laws, towns and cities cannot claim any copyright to their names.

empire21

11-12-2008, 05:43 PM

Okay... does anyone else find this completely and utterly ridiculous?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081112/en_movies_eo/68391

Ridiculous?! No.

I find that hilarious. :laughing:

Mark Skywalker

11-12-2008, 05:44 PM

Okay... does anyone else find this completely and utterly ridiculous?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081112/en_movies_eo/68391

I do indeed

If anything Dc Comics could sue their ass for this since the character of Batman made his debut in May, 1939 in Detective Comics #27 .

This province in Turkey first became a district in 1957,and changed it's name to "Batman."

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Dc Comics could sue their ass for millions on copyright . And calling thier province Batman without their permission .

I find this Hilarious that 70 years of Batman being A cultural icon, has been licensed and adapted into a variety of media, from radio to television and film, and appears on a variety of merchandise sold all over the world. That Now all of a sudden after so many years this province makes it self known to World now, just when the blockbuster smash hit of Summer 2008 that's made over $997.6 million worldwide & $528.6 million domestically, $469 million internationally . On top of that this Clowns have the nerve to Sue Christopher Nolan .

What a bunch of Idiots .

P-Ray

11-12-2008, 10:21 PM

Okay... does anyone else find this completely and utterly ridiculous?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081112/en_movies_eo/68391
That's hilarious!:laughing:

Mark Skywalker

11-13-2008, 04:30 AM

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn84/otherworlder_album/Gotham.jpg
Batman and his Classic Rogue Gallery Of Villains

Mark Skywalker

11-13-2008, 08:10 AM

The Complete Batman film Soundtracks Collection

Batman 89 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5F26C3B277EC38FB)

Batman Returns (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8107A023B1A89E08)

Batman Forever (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DF9D5DFE2ABE7282)

Batman & Robin (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C7E29C288C0146D6)

Batman : Mask Of The Phantasm (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DF94A10ABA224639)

Batman & Mr. Freeze : Sub Zero (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C47A5A55203CA71C)

Batman Beyond : The Movie (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=81CBC397582F919B)

Batman Beyond : Return Of The Joker (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A46B9083653529BF)

Batman Begins (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CD1E3CB368D66E55)

The Dark Knight (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A0EB49C4E7626AC9)

Batman : Gotham Knight (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F07AABFB95DB411)

http://flv2mp3.com/
(http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=BmSt32)

P-Ray

11-13-2008, 09:55 AM

The Academy disqualifies the TDK score!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=50491

Raganork8

11-13-2008, 10:06 AM

I hate the Academy

Morridini

11-13-2008, 11:00 AM

Batman and his Classic Rogue Gallery Of Villains

Who's the dude below Scare and over Freeze?

Talcy

11-13-2008, 11:04 AM

Croc.

Morridini

11-13-2008, 11:51 AM

Um, when did they change his looks to that?

Talcy

11-13-2008, 12:02 PM

I've seen Croc change a few times. Suppose it depends on who's drawing him.

Morridini

11-13-2008, 12:44 PM

Well I've not seen Croc in a while (latest time was in the Under the Hood story-arc), and he was still pretty Crocodile like in the face, not so much human.

Talcy

11-13-2008, 12:46 PM

He looked more human before the Under the Hood series.

RollaFett

11-13-2008, 04:51 PM

The Academy disqualifies the TDK score!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=50491
There doesn't seem to be any real explanation though. I mean, what's the official rule for how many people can be named? And why the hell should it matter? Hell, you can have dozens of producers attached to a film and that doesn't disqualify it from being nominated for best picture. What a bunch of maroons.

Mark Skywalker

11-14-2008, 10:54 PM

The Academy disqualifies the TDK score!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=50491

They did the same for BATMAN BEGINS :mad::rant::censored:

Mark Skywalker

11-16-2008, 07:10 PM

The Billion-Dollar Batman
Joal Ryan Fri Nov 14, 6:38 pm ET

Los Angeles (E! Online) – It's going to happen. Maybe it already has.

As of midweek, The Dark Knight's worldwide haul stood at a reported $997.6 million. Box-office experts said $1 billion, a mountain of money amassed by only three other movies in Hollywood history, was perhaps two weeks away.

"Dark Knight's at a trickle now with no new territories," Box Office Mojo's Brandon Gray said in an email. "[But] it's possible that it already has [hit the billion-dollar mark], as unreported grosses can suddenly come in."

Exhibitor Relations' Jeff Bock speculated that Warner Bros. was perhaps waiting for the right moment—like, oh, say, the movie's Dec. 9 DVD release—to spring the announcement.

As for the studio, when asked how far its movie had to go to $1 billion, its answer was: "Not yet."

The only three current members of Hollywood's billion-dollar club are Titanic, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. On the domestic side, The Dark Knight is, with Titanic, one of only two movies to pass $500 million. (Titanic, of course, also topped $600 million to claim its box-office crown.)

After setting box-office land-speed records in the summer, The Dark Knight has spent the last several weeks gutting out five-figure days. By comparison, at the same point in its run, Titanic, even with 1998 ticket prices, was still capable of $1 million days.

In an apparent attempt to spur on its marathon runner, Warners is boosting The Dark Knight's release by 200-plus theaters this weekend.

Even (almost) billionaires can use a hand.

Mark Skywalker

11-16-2008, 10:47 PM

THE DARK KNIGHT The Official DVD menu

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Mark Skywalker

11-18-2008, 05:55 PM

The Dark Knight - DVD/Blu-ray Exclusive Trailer
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Mark Skywalker

11-20-2008, 07:39 AM

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii39/jokermatt/front.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii39/jokermatt/back.jpg

Mark Skywalker

11-20-2008, 10:44 AM

kopernikuz

11-21-2008, 09:50 AM

BATMAN : Brave & The Bold
Episode #01 - Rise of the Blue Beetle!
Original Airdate - November 14th, 2008
Batman and Blue Beetle team up to save an alien race from Kanjar Ro.

http://videoonclick.com/Cartoons/episode.php?id=129&season=1&episode=01
I watched it with the kids...

My reaction: "Meh..."

Kid's reaction: Mixed... my 7yo liked it, the girls kind of did... oldest son was "Meh" too.

It has a serious Cartoon Network Teen Titans vibe to it... which is why my girls kind of liked it. Blue Beetle was a lot like those Titans characters and the art style is this weird mix of vintage Golden Age and Anime, so that's kind of different. I'll probably watch a few more, because the kids like to check out new stuff... but if they lose interest, likely so will I.

P-Ray

11-21-2008, 12:03 PM

Mark Skywalker

11-21-2008, 03:36 PM

http://i33.tinypic.com/efi9ma.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/17/...e-dark-knight/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/17/for-your-consideration-the-dark-knight/)

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...NION/811129997 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081112/OPINION/811129997)

borgmatrix

11-21-2008, 10:37 PM

It has a serious Cartoon Network Teen Titans vibe to it... which is why my girls kind of liked it. Blue Beetle was a lot like those Titans characters and the art style is this weird mix of vintage Golden Age and Anime, so that's kind of different. I'll probably watch a few more, because the kids like to check out new stuff... but if they lose interest, likely so will I.
I saw the first 10 minutes of episodes 1 and 2 and liked what I saw. Exactly the not-too-serious fun I'd expect from something that's a "mix of vintage Golden Age and Anime". Much preferred what I saw to TT, probably because TT seemed like an odd mix of goofy and, at other times, taking themselves too seriously. And I just didn't liking watching characters who were too young (based on what I'd envisioned/wanted) and with (IMO) poor designs.

I think this new cartoon works for me because I don't get the impression of the creative team taking things too seriously, just looking to have fun (appropriately for the Batman period they're evoking), and I much prefer the show visually. I'd also much rather be watching Batman and the other heroes he's teaming with than a too-young, too-small looking bunch of Titans.

kopernikuz

11-21-2008, 10:53 PM

Yeah, I would probably just say I got the TT vibe from the Beetle himself... his design and his personality reminded me of it... most likely because Will Friedle voiced him and he's also in the Kim Possible Disney Channel cartoon my kids watch... so it had that tween vibe... that's probably where it came from.

I didn't dislike it... just wasn't sure it's something I'll tune into each week. But it was just one episode... so I've got my DVR taping all new eppys so I'll be watching it for at least a few more before I draw any conclusions.

borgmatrix

11-22-2008, 01:53 AM

most likely because Will Friedle voiced him and he's also in the Kim Possible Disney Channel cartoon my kids watch... so it had that tween vibe... that's probably where it came from.
:laughing: See, I heard Friedle and thought Terry McGinnis. That was another plus for me. :)

kopernikuz

11-22-2008, 09:46 AM

Now see, that might have helped, except I didn't really ever get really deep into Batman Beyond. So I didn't even make the connection, lol. The Kim Possible reference is a little more recent and fresh in my mind since my kids still watch that from time to time, lol.

P-Ray

12-03-2008, 10:56 AM

WB still planning on Dark Knight rerelease!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7859

P-Ray

12-04-2008, 11:51 AM

Dark Knight score nominated for a Grammy!
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=7870

P-Ray

12-05-2008, 10:19 AM

WB still planning on Dark Knight rerelease!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7859
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/39332

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51037

RollaFett

12-05-2008, 04:45 PM

While I think it would be cool for it reach Titantic's total, I simply don't see it happening. I mean we're talking about a re-release after the dvd release. I would love to see it on the big screen again, but I will most certainly have the blu-ray by then and will not be buying another ticket, sorry.

P-Ray

12-06-2008, 12:05 PM

Nolan talks TDK DVD and sequel!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/39348

RollaFett

12-06-2008, 05:55 PM

Ahhh...in three days I will be enjoying that blu-ray. I cannot wait.

Mark Skywalker

12-07-2008, 06:24 AM

Here is a list of all the store exclusives for The Dark Knight Dvd & Blu-Ray

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthr...readid=1061360 (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=1061360)

empire21

12-07-2008, 07:37 AM

I'd sure like to get the Blu-ray with the Batpod. :yes:

P-Ray

12-07-2008, 08:59 AM

Here is a list of all the store exclusives for The Dark Knight Dvd & Blu-Ray

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthr...readid=1061360 (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=1061360)
The extras for the 2 disc seem a little lacking to me!

Raganork8

12-07-2008, 12:15 PM

I'm afriad I'm not going to get it.

I think this thing is going to sell like hotcakes.

Hopefully I can get a copy.

Mark Skywalker

12-08-2008, 09:03 AM

^ WHY SO SERIOUS ?

P-Ray

12-08-2008, 10:41 AM

:rofl:

kopernikuz

12-08-2008, 12:38 PM

I think it'll be one of the top-selling DVDs... but I doubt you'll have trouble finding one, lol. All the people who saw it multiple times in the theater giving it an amazing box office likely are only going to buy one copy each ;) Fret not. :) Unless they start pumping them out in phases like a Nintendo Wii to artificially inflate demand :P

RollaFett

12-08-2008, 03:24 PM

Yeah, it's gonna sell like crazy but don't worry, there will be plenty of copies to go around.
And yeah, the extras do seem to be lacking a bit on the 2 disc edition. Balls. Won't stop me from buying it, of course, but it is a little disappointing as you know a better edition will come around at some point.

P-Ray

12-08-2008, 03:45 PM

RollaFett

12-08-2008, 03:52 PM

While I don't recall what was included with the newest release for BB, I do recall that the original was pretty loaded with good stuff.
Best I do recall, though, was that it didn't appear as though the new release had anything significantly extra to add. But you are the link maestro, how about shedding some light on this?

RollaFett

12-08-2008, 04:00 PM

Here's what I found:
Batman Begins 2005 dvd extras:
'Batman: The Journey Begins:
Creative Concepts' featurette
'Story Development and Casting' featurette
'Shaping Mind and Body: Fighting Style' featurette
'Gotham City Rises: Production Design' featurette
'Cape and Cowl: The New Batsuit' featurette
'Batman – The Tumbler: The New Batmobile' featurette
'Path to Discovery: Filming in Iceland' featurette
'Saving Gotham City: The Monorail Chase Sequence' featurette
'Genesis of the Bat: Batman Incarnations from the Mid-1980s to the Present' featurette
'Confidential Files' character/weaponry gallery
a still gallery of design ideas developed to market the movie and a DVD-Rom Weblink.

Batman Begins 2008 dvd:
IME Experience
Tankman Begins (MTV Spoof)
Theatrical Trailer
Batman: The Journey Begins
Shaping Mind and Body
Gotham City Rises
Cape and Cowl
Genesis of the Bat
Batman: The Tumbler
Path to Discovery
Saving Gotham City
Limited Edition Art Cards
Still Gallery
3 Easter Eggs
The Dark Knight: Prologue

I know that the "Tankman" spoof was on the '05 version also. Seems as though the only new stuff is the "TDK" prologue, and whatever the "IME Experience" thing is.

EDIT: I found this review of the '08 release and it speaks of what is new to this release versus the '05. http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/248/batmanbegins.html

Talcy

12-08-2008, 07:18 PM

Whoah! I'm absolutely knackered!

Just watched 'em both back to back.

Superb! There are so many ways to take the story forward. As per Nolan's comment, there is no way another film cannot follow on from TDK. It must follow on from the fallout of Batman taking the blame.

P-Ray

12-09-2008, 09:41 AM

Academy reverses decision on TDK score!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51172

P-Ray

12-09-2008, 09:45 AM

There are so many ways to take the story forward. As per Nolan's comment, there is no way another film cannot follow on from TDK. It must follow on from the fallout of Batman taking the blame.
I agree!

I was thinking the same thing when I read that Nolan interview!

There is much material for a 3rd movie from just the ending of TDK(as well as all the years of awesome stories)!:wink:

RollaFett

12-09-2008, 01:29 PM

Agreed. While Nolan has stated numerous times that he has told the story he set out to tell, logic must dictate that there was no actual conclusion at the end of TDK. Maybe he hasn't thought of a specific story, but there sure is plenty that was unresolved.

Mark Skywalker

12-10-2008, 01:09 AM

BD Live Chat with Christopher Nolan

warnerblu.warnerbros.com/registration (http://warnerblu.warnerbros.com/registration)

Mark Skywalker

12-10-2008, 01:12 AM

The TDK score is back up for Oscar consideration!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23839

borgmatrix

12-10-2008, 09:32 AM

The TDK score is back up for Oscar consideration!
P-Ray already informed us on the previous page. :) Yeah, its great news. I love that score. It definitely deserves consideration.

Raganork8

12-10-2008, 09:37 AM

I was, originally, afraid I wouldn't be able to find a copy of TDK; but, early yesterday morning I purchased the Special Edition Two DVD Set.

Then I was afraid my small television wouldn't be able to support such a large film.

I'm happy to say Dark Knight was still as perfect as it was in theaters. I LOVE this film. i'll probably re-watch it again.

Mark Skywalker

12-10-2008, 11:06 AM

Batman: Arkham Asylum

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borgmatrix

12-10-2008, 11:16 AM

Then I was afraid my small television wouldn't be able to support such a large film.

I'm happy to say Dark Knight was still as perfect as it was in theaters. I LOVE this film. i'll probably re-watch it again.
Sweet. So nothing you'd complain about with the visuals on the dvd version?

RollaFett

12-10-2008, 05:32 PM

It sucks about Nolan not doing a commentary, but at least he's consistent. He hasn't seemed to have done one for any of his films, if I remember correctly.
As for me, I picked up the 2 disc blu-ray last night but sadly, Mrs. Rollafett was none too interested in watching it, and since we only have one blu-ray player (PS3) I'm gonna be stuck waiting until at least Thursday evening before I get to see it for a long awaited 2nd viewing. Yes, that's right borg and Rags, I still have not seen this flick a 2nd time. Balls.

borgmatrix

12-10-2008, 05:35 PM

Yes, that's right borg and Rags, I still have not seen this flick a 2nd time. Balls.
Dude, I envy you. That should be one hell of a great second viewing. I'm sure it'll have been well worth the wait.

RollaFett

12-10-2008, 05:43 PM

Oh, it definately will be. I can't wait to see it with somewhat "fresh" eyes.

kopernikuz

12-10-2008, 09:00 PM

The Dark Knight is RiffTraxed...
http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/dark-knight

If you can spare a minute, think back on the greatest work of cinema that you have ever seen. Did you think about The Dark Knight? No? Then you are a moron. Because while you were out doing whatever it is morons do...demolition derbies or...croquet, (we wouldn't know, we loved The Dark Knight), The Dark Knight pimp-slapped Andy Dufresne, spat in the Godfather's face and gave Charles Foster Kane a big ol' wedgie on its way to becoming the greatest movie of all time.

All this in spite of the bat suit causing our hero to grumble like the offspring of Tom Waits and Cookie Monster. There is nothing at all silly about that. We here at RiffTrax regret even having to point out that he sounds like your Great Aunt Vivian sending you out for her third pack of Pall Malls of the day. Because The Dark Knight is not just a superhero movie. It's a gritty crime drama about political corruption and the choices men make that just happens to involve a superhero. A superhero millionaire that dresses as a bat whose voice sounds like your cat heaving up a hairball into your slippers who battles a guy with half a face named Two-Face.

Despite all this, Mike, Kevin and Bill are ready to take on...(reverent pause)...The Greatest Movie of All Time.*

* Source: The Internet

Mark Skywalker

12-11-2008, 07:40 AM

http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=45

:hyper:

Blizzard

12-11-2008, 11:58 AM

Woo Hoo! Heath Ledger's Joker was nominated for a Golden Globe!!! Best Supporting actor. His heavy competition: Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr., Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Ralph Fiennes.

Other than that, Dark Knight was snubbed.

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 02:33 PM

The Dark Knight is RiffTraxed...
http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/dark-knight
Heh, heh...not sure when I'll get around to watching this, but I definately will. The SW rifftrax were gold!

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 02:38 PM

http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/globes/env-2009-globes-nom-list-scorecard-html,0,1212252.htmlstory

As Blizz already mentioned, Ledger got the Golden Globe nom for best supporting actor. What other nominations did The Dark Knight receive? Uhhh...how about none? Hmmm, not too worried, though, because there aren't nearly as many categories for the Globes.

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 02:46 PM

It was apparent that Ledger would be the only actor nominated and the competition is a bit stiff in the film category so something had to be left out.

I'm sure when Oscar noms are announced, I had forgotten that the noms are going to be announced on what is the one year anniversary of Ledger's death, he'll get a Supporting Actor nod and the film will be nominated for visual and technical categories. Perhaps even Best Score. Just doesn't look like it's going to get a Best Picture nod though. There are at least six or seven strong contenders in the category and that doesn't even get TDK into the conversation.

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 02:58 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get a best picture nom either, but you never know. It seems as though surprises tend to happen from time to time. Also, I feel as though the academy would be doing itself a disservice if it didn't happen. Ratings constantly decline for the show, so having a fan favorite involved in the big awards would do nothing but help the broadcast. I'm not saying that's the only reason it shuold be nominated, but when you constantly have a bunch of little known films contending each year, less and less people wind up giving a damn.

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 03:26 PM

I agree and, after all, ratings are what make the world go round. If TDK had even an outside chance at winning the award, and the fact that that award is the final one of the evening, it would certainly create a resurgence in viewership.

But only five get nominated and the ten that were nominated between the drama and comedy/musical categorys for the Globes all probably have a better shot at getting those five slots over TDK. It sounds like Benjamin Button, Frost/Nixon and Slumdog Millionaire are all locks for three of the five noms. Burn After Reading could get nominated because Coen Brothers films have done well in the past (Fargo/No Country). Mamma Mia could surprise some people and get a nom. As could Vicky Christina Barcelona, which I'm not that familiar with but with probably watch on cable because of Bardem's success with No Country and Johannson just being hot. The other films (The Reader, Revolutionary Road, The Visitor, Happy-Go-Lucky and In Bruges) I'm just not that familiar with to comment on.

But there's always hope for TDK.

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 04:14 PM

Mamma Mia?! I highly doubt that has any shot at a best picture nom. The reviews were mainly mediocre for it. True, it's gotten a Globe nom, but for the best musical/comedy category. I can totally understand that.
The other films you mention, though, could definately get noms over TDK based on just what I've read about many of them. That said, I've been reading the same type of things about TDK. I like it's chances.

borgmatrix

12-11-2008, 04:43 PM

The other films you mention, though, could definately get noms over TDK based on just what I've read about many of them. That said, I've been reading the same type of things about TDK. I like it's chances.
TDK should get a best pic nod. It's a :censored: great film, no ifs, ands, or buts. I know there have been many snubs over the years, but if TDK doesn't a best picture nomination, it'll be one too many for me and I think I'll be done with the academy awards for good. There are past best picture winners that aren't a match for TDK (including one from a couple years ago).

If TDK doesn't get its due consideration, I won't forgive or forget.

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 04:51 PM

Fired up, are we? That sounded eeriely similar to one of your Federer rants from this past summer. :wink:
I agree with you, BTW, but simply would not be surprised to see it looked over simple because it doesn't fall into the typical "prestige" type of film the academy adores so much. That said, we should remember that fan favorite hits such as "Star Wars"; "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Gladiator" have all been nominated for best picture, so it definately is possible.

borgmatrix

12-11-2008, 05:17 PM

Fired up, are we? That sounded eeriely similar to one of your Federer rants from this past summer. :wink:
:laughing: Yeah, I know. Too much :rant:from me recently. Which puts a good new year's resolution into my head. Though with the Australian Open and Oscars during the first part of the year, that may not last long.

I agree with you, BTW, but simply would not be surprised to see it looked over simple because it doesn't fall into the typical "prestige" type of film the academy adores so much.
I honestly don't see how. I compare this to The Departed and can't see a single reason why its not a lock for the best picture category. As many reviewers correctly noted, TDK's very much a crime drama and we've all seen how those kinds of films have been recognized and rewarded. Again, The Departed is a good recent example.

No matter which way we look at it, whether its performances, script, editing, music score, direction, whatever, it stands up against best picture winners like Gladiator, Return of the King, The Departed, or No Country for Old Men.

I've been gushing over Ledger's performance as much as anyone, but if he's the only one recognized/rewarded when the Oscars are done, then that's doing a serious, serious disservice to TDK as an overall production since Heath was NOT the only great thing about it.

RollaFett

12-11-2008, 05:29 PM

I honestly don't see how. I compare this to The Departed and can't see a single reason why its not a lock for the best picture category. As many reviewers correctly noted, TDK's very much a crime drama and we've all seen how those kinds of films have been recognized and rewarded. Again, The Departed is a good recent example.
I agree. My fear, though, is that it's a "comic book" film, and that genre has yet to receive such acolades. I agree that it is actually much more than a simple comic book film, I just hope the academy members recognize that as well.

P-Ray

12-11-2008, 05:33 PM

borgmatrix

12-11-2008, 05:44 PM

My fear, though, is that it's a "comic book" film, and that genre has yet to receive such acolades.
Yeah, I know. But again, I can hardly fathom that. All one has to do is watch the film and see that it's not a comic book film, but a crime film that just happens to feature Batman. If the academy voters have actually watched TDK, then that "argument" should be out the window.

And then, of course, I just point to ROTK. When you've got flying Nazgul, a ghost army, orcs, rings of power, wizards, elves, dwarves, a giant spider, Gollum...I mean what in TDK is even remotely fantastical in comparison?

You're completely right that those "arguments" come up, but I literally can't find any legitimate basis to 'em, you know?

TDK literally seems like the ultimate to me. Not only is it highly entertaining, drawing in everyone from those appreciating well made films to idiots who'll love any special effects blockbuster even if its crap, but it also captured the critics as well. It's literally pulled in as large an audience as you're gonna find (with BO results and dvd/blu-ray sales beyond a doubt proving that), while also securing a phenomenal 94% at RT with some of the most respected critics in the land praising it. How many films are objectively brilliant AND pull in near $1 billion worldwide as well as an entertainment juggernaut. I mean, just give TDK the best picture trophy.

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 06:24 PM

I would much rather watch TDK than any of the LOTR movies any day of the week. I share Randal's feelings on LOTR from Clerks II. But I would call The Departed and No Country both better films than TDK but that's not even really fair because they are all so completely different.

Bottom line, I've never been overly fond of superhero movies. The original two Superman's were great. The original Batman (Keaton) was good. Spiderman, X-Men, DareDevil, etc were all overrated at best to me although the first X-Men is watchable in my opinion. That said, BB and TDK are both out-f**k-standing films that will more than stand the test of time. Do I think it should be nominated? Yes. Do I think it will be? Probably not.

Rolla, I only mentioned Mamma Mia because there have been a number of musicals that have been nominated and even a few that have won Best Picture over the years. Just to clarify though I don't think it has a chance of being nominated but I wanted to comment on all ten Globe noms.

Raganork8

12-11-2008, 06:37 PM

I'm 100% positve TDK is better than that curious case of Benjanin who gives a flying fluke...

And I see that winning best picture.

What upset me the most was that Christopher Nolan didn't even get a nom for Best director. How obscene is that; he took a comic book movie and essentially transcended into a category no other comic book film has gotten to before. He's a master crafter and his specific, artistic and intellectual directing style proves that he is one of the best directors out there.

It's absurd to think TDK could get royally snubbed.

And to think TOM CRUISE got a Golden globe nom for his role in Tropic Thunder. But Chris Nolan could get a nom for best director

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 07:07 PM

I'm actually looking forward to downloading the Benjamin Button movie once I can find a screener DVD online. It looks excellent.

But TDK has much more rewatchability factor.

Raganork8

12-11-2008, 07:18 PM

watching Brad Pitt age backwards sounds like fun?

What makes me upset is that before I even knew about the film I heard it was getting oscar buzz; that was about a month or two before Iron Man. It's like they say:

"oh this looks stiff and rich enough let's choose it"

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 07:25 PM

Brad Pitt's actually a much better actor than he gets credit for. IMO anyway.

Raganork8

12-11-2008, 07:28 PM

I was having this discussion with someone the other day and I was saying that he's overrated; there's only a handful of movies I can think of that I was impressed by him.

He ain't bad; but, he's not god's gift to acting either.

He's in no way is better than any of the leads or supporting in TDK

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 08:09 PM

I agree but that doesn't mean that the Benjamin Button movie is automatically going to be crap either though.

Raganork8

12-11-2008, 08:16 PM

probably won't be "crap"

But I can't see how it's more viable for an Oscar than Dark Knight.

It's hard to say cause it hasn't come out; but, it doesn't look that good to me. Great acting probably yeah; but, the premise seems boring to me.

DblDwn

12-11-2008, 10:16 PM

Don't want to play Mod but we should probably talk about Batman. If you want to talk about the film though let me know and I'll start a thread.

Mark Skywalker

12-12-2008, 09:06 AM

The Dark Knight Breaks Blu-ray Disc Sales Record
Source:Video Business (http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6622002.html?desc=topstory)
December 11, 2008

The Dark Knight (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15813) sold a record 600,000 Blu-ray Discs in the U.S. on its first day of release on Dec. 9, or about 21% of its total units, according to Warner Home Video.

"We think we will hit 1 million this weekend," said WHV president Ron Sanders. "What's really encouraging about it is that the Blu-ray version did exceptionally well across the board. It wasn't just selling in Best Buy or Wal-Mart, but also it did well in grocery and game stores. It was surprising to us just how well it did."

Prior to The Dark Knight (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15813), the best Blu-ray Disc performer was Paramount Home Entertainment's Iron Man, which moved 260,000 high-def copies on its first day on sale Sept. 30, and 500,000 units in its first week.

This year's highest-grossing film, The Dark Knight (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15813), which generated $530 million in U.S. theatrical ticket sales, moved about 3 million copies in both standard and high-def in the U.S. on its first day of release.

The movie's 21% Blu-ray Disc share of sales easily tops the average 10% portion that was generated from releases in the format earlier this year.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7902

RollaFett

12-12-2008, 04:48 PM

Yay! I FINALLY sat down and enjoyed my 2nd viewing of TDK last night!

I gotta tell you, that movie flat out flies by! I remember it moving briskly in theaters back in July, but when i watched it last night, I simply could not believe that it was over so soon. And it's 2 1/2 friggin' hours! Wow.
Anyway, I am so happy to have this film for myself, as I'm sure most of you guys are too. Now we can enjoy the magnificence of TDK whenever the :censored: we want!!! :happydance:

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 04:51 PM

Its funny the whole world seems to stop during the interrogation scene.

That laugh when he takes that final punch....it's so...so...ARRRGGGGG :censored: amazing

RollaFett

12-12-2008, 04:58 PM

Y'know, one thing when the Joker is in Jail is how he escaped. I get how he got out of the interrogation room, but how was he the only unharmed person after the bomb went off?

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 05:01 PM

Y'know, one thing when the Joker is in Jail is how he escaped. I get how he got out of the interrogation room, but how was he the only unharmed person after the bomb went off?

He's not.

We see some of the people in the room with him later on during the Resse Assassination attempt G.C.N.

But you're probably referring to as how is Joker the only one standing by the bomb...

I don't know...He was expecting the blast so maybe he was prepared. However no one in the room with him died from the explosion.

RollaFett

12-12-2008, 05:08 PM

I dunno. There he was, holding that one cop hostage while making the phone call, and he's surrounded by a fair number of cops...the bomb goes off, next we see, he's standing there all by himself and easily walks to Lau's cell with no police resistance whatsoever.
Are we to assume that the only men Gordon left at MCD when he ad Batman went to rescue Dent and Rachel were the ones taken out by the explosion? If so, fine, I can buy that. What still seems strange is how the Joker was the only one left standing after the blast, regardless of whether or not he knew it was coming.

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 05:18 PM

most of the people were probably knocked out by the explosion but not killed; which is evident when we see the cop joker had the glass to later on.

Lau's cell is in the holding cells which is closer to where the explosion went off than where Joker was. That explains how he was able to walk into Lau's cell to pick him up.

who knows how many cops were in Joker's hand at M.C.U. we should assume most because he was able to drive away in a Gotham P.D. cruiser with a convoy.

Why was he left standing? Because the shot works better that way than Joker getting up off the floor. But everyone at M.C.U. weren't killed. Most of them went with Gordon to pick up Harvey; the remaining are split between Joker's men and the good cops left. Not many.

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 05:18 PM

RollaFett

12-12-2008, 05:22 PM

Yeah, everything you say makes sense. To me, however, I simply can't get past how the Joker is the only one standing after the blast, that's all. Not a big deal AT ALL. And it surely doesn't ruin anything for me. I simply found it strange, despite how good the shot may have looked.

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 05:24 PM

borgmatrix

12-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Why was he left standing? Because the shot works better that way than Joker getting up off the floor.
That's what I was thinking. I can't remember now how the editing was during that segment, but I'm thinking he could have been knocked down. Got up. And then the they cut back to that room when he's already back on his feet.

But I get where you're coming from, because I think I was of similar mind. Great that he escaped, as far as the movie's concerned, but it seemed like an awful lot had to go right for that to happen. That dude had to be in the room, allow Joker to egg him on to allow Joker to get out of the interrogation room. Then someone had to agree to give him a phone (and everything had to go right on the other end with the bomb exploding). And then, yeah, everyone else had to get knocked out except for him.

But hey, he's The Joker, the Clown Prince of Crime. That combined with knowing the blast was coming I guess is enough for me. :)

"I think you and I are destined to do this forever." And maybe even destiny was conspiring in things. :laughing:

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 05:33 PM

That's what I was thinking. I can't remember now how the editing was during that segment, but I'm thinking he could have been knocked down. Got up. And then the they cut back to that room when he's already back on his feet.

But I get where you're coming from, because I think I was of similar mind. Great that he escaped, as far as the movie's concerned, but it seemed like an awful lot had to go right for that to happen. That dude had to be in the room, allow Joker to egg him on to allow Joker to get out of the interrogation room. Then someone had to agree to give him a phone (and everything had to go right on the other end with the bomb exploding). And then, yeah, everyone else had to get knocked out except for him.

But hey, he's The Joker, the Clown Prince of Crime. That combined with knowing the blast was coming I guess is enough for me. :)

"I think you and I are destined to do this forever." And maybe even destiny was conspiring in things. :laughing:

Not really...

remember that people in M.C.U. were working under Joker; I assume either way he would have gotten out of M.C.U. before the deaths of Rachel and Harvey; he just acted more quickly.

From the interrogation room he would have been unharmed from the explosion and gotten out of there with the help of one of his flunkies would have pressed the button let him out. If you think of the alternative of how he would have escaped it's pretty well planned out; but, luckily for him he didn't have to really do any of those things

Horse_Head

12-12-2008, 06:47 PM

ANyone gonna try and participate in this?
http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/dvdsite/event/index.html#anch

borgmatrix

12-12-2008, 07:01 PM

remember that people in M.C.U. were working under Joker;
Good point. We're talking Maroni's people, right?

ANyone gonna try and participate in this?
http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/dvdsite/event/index.html#anch (http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/dvdsite/event/index.html#anch)
I'm still not sure I understand how its gonna work. Exactly how much participation is going to be involved from all the fans tuning in. It can't be a free-for-all or it'd be chaos, right? Is it mostly listening to Nolan's live commentary with limited/coordinated moments where fans can chime in with comments/questions?

And has there been any talk of Nolan's words being recorded for a commentary track on a future dvd/blu-ray release?

Raganork8

12-12-2008, 08:13 PM

Yeah Maroni's people

Tovor

12-13-2008, 12:09 AM

I dunno. There he was, holding that one cop hostage while making the phone call, and he's surrounded by a fair number of cops...the bomb goes off, next we see, he's standing there all by himself...
...What still seems strange is how the Joker was the only one left standing after the blast, regardless of whether or not he knew it was coming.
Note the bold. I believe officers in the bomb squad who go in to dismantle a ticking bomb, call what they wear "a bomb vest".

RollaFett

12-15-2008, 05:26 PM

yeah, but I doubt the joker had one on at that time. Anyway, I'm over that now.

Ok, so I checked out the "extras" on the 2 disc blu-ray and man do they suck.
The first disc has a pretty decent behind the scenes doc that can be viewed during the film as well. Apart from that, though, nothing. The 2 docs on the 2nd disc were not even new docs. Batman Tech and The Psychology of Batman were both made for TV specials that aired on the History channel around the release of the film in theaters. And while they are decent specials, they are not what I'd want on the dvd release. It's not a bad idea to include them, but you have to have more new material as well. Very disappointing.

borgmatrix

12-15-2008, 05:36 PM

yeah, but I doubt the joker had one on at that time. Anyway, I'm over that now.
Um, I could be wrong, but I think Tovor was referencing the hostage cop as the bomb vest.

:laughing:

RollaFett

12-15-2008, 05:41 PM

Oh...yeah, that would make more sense.

Talcy

12-15-2008, 07:17 PM

Um, I could be wrong, but I think Tovor was referencing the hostage cop as the bomb vest.

:laughing:
That cop (I think he's called Stevens) survives as he is seen talking to Gordon later on during the evacuation scenes.

Random note: that cop was Holz in Angel.

Raganork8

12-15-2008, 08:41 PM

the cops in that scene appear during the Reese scenes, look closely

Tovor

12-16-2008, 12:20 AM

Um, I could be wrong, but I think Tovor was referencing the hostage cop as the bomb vest.

:laughing:
You are correct, sir. :howdy:

Tovor

12-16-2008, 12:25 AM

That cop (I think he's called Stevens) survives as he is seen talking to Gordon later on during the evacuation scenes.

Random note: that cop was Holz in Angel.
That would seem to squash my theory but I still think he was somewhat protected by the hostage. If I was the filmmaker, that's the way I would have set the scene up. It would have made more sense if that character had not been seen again.

borgmatrix

12-16-2008, 01:10 AM

That would seem to squash my theory but I still think he was somewhat protected by the hostage. If I was the filmmaker, that's the way I would have set the scene up. It would have made more sense if that character had not been seen again.
Nah, I think your theory works just fine. We all knew the cops weren't dead, just unconscious, as I think rags pointed out before. So we (or at least Rolla and I) were just wondering how Joker wasn't thrown/knocked out while the others were. With Joker knowing to expect the blast and having that cop to shield him, I think it ends up being perfectly reasonable. And heck, he coulda been knocked down, with the cop taking the brunt of it, and then got back up in time for the camera to show him standing there.

It's workable.

Talcy

12-16-2008, 06:18 AM

Yeah. Joker's point was to get out. Stunning the cops was just as effective as killing them. He knew it was coming and was ready for it. They didn't.

P-Ray

12-17-2008, 10:50 AM

TDK shatters Blu Ray records!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51373

Mark Skywalker

12-17-2008, 04:59 PM

TDK shatters Blu Ray records!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51373

No Surprise their we all knew it would make the History records book .:wink:

Raganork8

12-18-2008, 09:00 AM

Apparently the Sun is reporting that Eddie Murphy will play The Riddler in the next Batman film.

Yeah right

Talcy

12-18-2008, 09:12 AM

People have been flooding AICN with these reports. All complete bollocks.

Harry Knowles has done a little bit about the true current status of a third Batman film from Chris Nolan.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39487

P-Ray

12-18-2008, 11:48 AM

Here's the false rumors!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51395

And here's what's really going on!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51404

Talcy

12-19-2008, 07:10 AM

Interesting little blog from CHUD's Devin Faraci about the potential for a Robin in the Bat films. I'm hot and cold on his writing in general, but I think he has some valid points here.

http://chud.com/articles/articles/17485/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-MAKING-THE-CASE-FOR-THE-BOY-WONDER/Page1.html

kopernikuz

12-19-2008, 09:11 AM

I like his take on introducing Robin, it could definitely work... and if anyone can bring it in a compelling instead of cheesy way, it'd be Nolan you'd think. I think you could just as easily do the same redemptive tack with a female love interest/antagonist like Talia or Selina as well.

I also just became curious about something, I've created a poll... please vote:

http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=1051102#post1051102

Raganork8

12-19-2008, 11:52 AM

Well; Deadshot was done for Gotham Knight. I'm not sure if they want to step on the toes of G.K.

I think the Ghul ship has sailed. I really liked Ra's; but, I think the time between Ra's and whenever this third movie is coming out is too long to effectively approach Talia. It's not impossible though; but, as of now it would seem like backtracking ala The Death Star in R.O.T.J.

Selena seems more viable in this case; I like the idea of them being totally unattached at the start; but, knowing each other by their alter egos. Selena also represents something that can flow and conflict with the memory of Rachel.

Here we have a woman who steals by night; whereas Rachel fought for the law. However both are equal in their fight to do what they think is right. The tenacity, the ambition. It'll all be there. However Bats has gotta face he's #1 falling in love with someone else after Rachel (which he might feel guilty about) AND #2 falling in love with a criminal (which is obviously going to start some kind of ethical issue.)

Meanwhile Gotham is in turmoil; the most righteous man in politics is dead. The Mob is in shambles trying to get itself back together; feuding with themselves and taking advantage of the lawlessness. Meanwhile G.C.P.D. has got their hands filled with trying to apprehend Batman; whilst taking orders from Gordon that somewhat seem to imply the opposite.

Roman appears and offers the Mob unity; claiming that he can make one Mob to control all of Gotham. all they need to do is show the people of Gotham that the Mob isn't afraid to hit Gotham's Prince: Bruce Wayne.

As Bruce seemingly is pursuing a relationship with Selena Roman takes advantage of that and tries to strike Bruce where is hurts most...again. But little does he know he's dealing with a Woman who can take car of herself.

All leading up to Batman trying to find redemption for things he hasn't done and has done and coming to grips with the reality about Black Mask and Catwoman. And then choosing which life he's going to dictate him. Batman or Bruce Wayne.

I want to see that movie! :hyper:

DblDwn

12-19-2008, 12:04 PM

Personally I think that a Robin introduction could be a major step back for the current series. Of course, if done right, like anything else, it could work. I'm just not a fan of the idea at this time.

Morridini

12-19-2008, 12:32 PM

I'd love to see Dick in the next Batty, but put Robin on hold for a few movies.

kopernikuz

12-19-2008, 01:50 PM

I'd love to see Dick in the next Batty.
This is crying out for a hundred jokes....:no:

:wink:

borgmatrix

12-19-2008, 03:38 PM

Meanwhile Gotham is in turmoil; the most righteous man in politics is dead. The Mob is in shambles trying to get itself back together; feuding with themselves and taking advantage of the lawlessness. Meanwhile G.C.P.D. has got their hands filled with trying to apprehend Batman; whilst taking orders from Gordon that somewhat seem to imply the opposite.

Roman appears and offers the Mob unity; claiming that he can make one Mob to control all of Gotham. all they need to do is show the people of Gotham that the Mob isn't afraid to hit Gotham's Prince: Bruce Wayne.
This all sounds great.

What I don't think I want to see right now is another romance for Bruce. On the heels of Rachel's death, I don't think it would sit right. I see Bruce closing himself off emotionally and I think it'd be to soon to bring in another love interest. And I don't want this to be like past Batman movies and other superhero movies where Bats has to have a love interest every movie. It played well into BB and TDK, but now with Rachel dead, I don't think there's a place for that in his life for this third movie. The timing wouldn't be right. Maybe later down the road.

So I don't want to see Selina, or Talia, or anyone other potential lover for him right now.

And I don't think there's room for Grayson right now, either.

RollaFett

12-19-2008, 04:22 PM

I'm with you, borg, about the love interest. Enough time was spent in the last film on that angle. You got to remember that in Bruce's mind, if Rachel hadn't died, he may very well have given up being Batman.
As far as Robin goes, well...it definately could work, but damn, it would need the right approach. That link provided a very do-able scenario. I sure haven't been clamoring for Robin in these films, but with that type of setup, it could work.

Justin

12-20-2008, 03:54 AM

I love the idea of Deadshot as a government agent sent to hunt Batman. That's a kickass idea actually.

If he was in the animated movie I don't care because that doesn't really count. Killer Croc was in that, and there is no way Killer Croc would fit in the Nolan Batman universe, at least not as portrayed in the animated movie.

empire21

12-20-2008, 07:40 AM

This is crying out for a hundred jokes....:no:

:wink:

LOL!

Master_Kinnon

12-20-2008, 09:03 AM

This is crying out for a hundred jokes....:no:

:wink:

:laughing:

I'm with you, borg, about the love interest. Enough time was spent in the last film on that angle. You got to remember that in Bruce's mind, if Rachel hadn't died, he may very well have given up being Batman.
As far as Robin goes, well...it definately could work, but damn, it would need the right approach. That link provided a very do-able scenario. I sure haven't been clamoring for Robin in these films, but with that type of setup, it could work.

Yeah I think you guys are right, less of the romance more of the gritty angst. I enjoyed TDK because it wasn't strictly Hollywood what with all the death and carnage and lawlessness. They should continue this to the next film. The love of his life is dead, I can't see him wanting to jump into bed with the next woman that crosses his path.

As for the Robin issue, well as good as it would be to see, there's no one out there who I think would make a decent Robin, not even Shia TheBeef as they're suggesting. Until they find someone who could do the role of Grayson justice I say leave it well alone.

Same with Catwoman. Not sure who I'd cast as her or who would be convincing as Selina. Any thoughts?

Raganork8

12-20-2008, 10:26 AM

yeah; but, the way I see the 'love story' being played out is SO minimally.

Just like in the comics. They don't fall in love per se; but, we know something may or may not happen down the road and that'll add a great inner conflict with Bruce on where his 'loyalties' lies.

His still be thinking about Rachel and feels like he's betraying her; making this odd relationship between he and Selena. It would be tense and odd and sexy and very serious; much like the classic relationship the two have.

After Joker I think it would be ambitious, almost critically, to try and go into a villain driven story. Black Mask works as a good realistic villain; but, the true story is about Bruce Wayne/Batman getting himself back into order and saving Gotham before it totally collapses on itself. Selena would work as showing Bruce who he is.

I can understand a romance though seeming odd; but, if it's done in the right way...

kopernikuz

12-20-2008, 10:31 AM

I agree... because the "love story" in BB and TDK was never "jumping in the sack" with folks... in fact, it was all subtext and dialogue... there doesn't have to be a "love story" per se... but a tension created by an attraction Bruce isn't sure he's ready to acknowledge.

DblDwn

12-20-2008, 11:08 AM

there's no one out there who I think would make a decent Robin, not even Shia TheBeef as they're suggesting.

I'm a big fan of Shia's but, you're right, I just can't see him in this role.

Regarding Selina/Catwoman, I agree with Kop. Alfred never gave Bruce the letter from Rachel so, as far as Bruce knows, he lost Rachel and not Harvey. So there is a degree of mourning and personal loss involved there.

Tension could easily be created with the introduction of the Selina character in that Bruce feels uncomfortable in his attraction to Selina because of what had happened to Rachel.

Done well it could work and by done well I pretty much mean that if Nolan does it.

Mark Skywalker

12-22-2008, 02:40 PM

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