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P-Ray
08-08-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm hoping for the Riddler, even though it's been done already. .
Well so was the Joker and we see how great that turned out:wink:

kopernikuz
08-08-2008, 07:13 PM
One of the great appeals of TDK was seeing Batman/Bruce use his superior detective skills. I'd sure like to see the Nolanesque Batman follow Riddler's clues across the city to solve another crime mystery.
Agreed! I could see Riddler as a Zodiac-style serial killer too... that'd be pretty awesome...

Black Mask is a great concept... and if Nolan is interested in a more obscure villain than the regular rogues gallery, he's perfect for that world... but I think he has to be in the film, though not necessarily teamed with someone with some drawing power as well... Catwoman seems a likely choice after Rachel's death and fits Black Mask's story too.

Raganork8
08-08-2008, 08:54 PM
I want to see Catwoman shoot Black Mask's Jaw off...

Tovor
08-09-2008, 03:13 AM
Well so was the Joker and we see how great that turned out:wink:
True, that is. :yes:

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:14 AM
Dark Knight Was AWESOME!

Morridini
08-09-2008, 10:18 AM
More Worldwide Release Dates:
http://commanderbond.net/article/4871

Wrong thread mate.

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:18 AM
Wrong thread mate.

BLAH!

kopernikuz
08-09-2008, 10:51 AM
Wha? What'd I miss? This is the wrong thread to point out TDK was awesome?

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:53 AM
haha; I put a Bond Article there...I have since edited it!

kopernikuz
08-09-2008, 10:59 AM
LOL... out of context it's hilarious... Morridini ends up looking kind of misinformed, :P

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 11:04 AM
LOL... out of context it's hilarious... Morridini ends up looking kind of misinformed, :P

"It's all...Part of the plaaaan"

Morridini
08-09-2008, 11:23 AM
LOL... out of context it's hilarious... Morridini ends up looking kind of misinformed, :P

Not anymore, added a quote in my "Wrong thread mate" post.

Mark Skywalker
08-09-2008, 02:59 PM
For movie Three

I'd like to see The Riddler , The Penguin & Catwoman .

Mark Skywalker
08-09-2008, 03:25 PM
Hugo Weaving as Edward Nygma /THE RIDDLER would be awesome in Nolan realistic world of BATMAN. (He was awesome as V in V for Vendetta ) His voice was quite memorable when he was quoting poetry in that movie .

Could you imagine how incredible his performance would be . Make no mistake I loved Jim Carrey as The Riddler , The only problem I had is the whole Idea of Nygma stealing the intelligence of Gotham citizens to grow smarter . I prefer The 90's animated series version in which Nygma is actually a smooth intellectual, who presented genuinely challenging puzzles. Like he was in "HUSH" That's what I'd like to see in Nolan's world .


My choice for The penguin is Philip Seymour Hoffman he played a character very similar to what I could see The Penguin as in Nolan's world (An Arm's Dealer) in Mission Impossible III as Owen Davian .

Instead of making The Penguin physically deformed, sadistic, megalomaniacal monster like Burton did. Bring back The Classic version of The Penguin from the comics , BTAS & the 60's Batman by actor Burgess Meredith .

Where Oswald had the appearence of a penguin was because of his bird like nose . And dressing in the Penguin tuxedo .

Make no mistake I thought Danny DeVito was a great choice for The Penguin, He looked like the part and had Burton stuck with The Classic look & Characteristic of The Penguin, he would've been amazing . But because Burton made he gothic & Gross , I didn't like The Penguin in Batman Returns . Thankfully Bruce Timm got it right in Batman : The Animated series . He even based the look of The penguin from burton movie, all he did was add the classic look & Characteristic. Then in The Revamp in TNBA , The penguin looked like a normal man with a beak nose . Also like the animated series, The Penguin could use Night club THE ICEBERG LOUNGE as a cover up business .

I'd like to see Selina Kyle in Nolan's world . As an aristocrat who wealth was gained by being a professional Cat burglar who stole things related to Cats that was worth a fortune (Due to her love of Cats) . Rather than go down burton routh again with Catwoman .

P-Ray
08-09-2008, 03:41 PM
I liked Jim Carrey's Riddler too but I would love to see the more serious intellectual version in Nolan's world.

The Penguin from the comics would be excellent! He runs a crime ring out of a night club and gives out info etc. If Nolan thought of a good story for him, that could really fit into what Nolan is doing, IMO

borgmatrix
08-09-2008, 04:07 PM
Make no mistake I thought Danny DeVito was a great choice for The Penguin, He looked like the part and had Burton stuck with The Classic look & Characteristic of The Penguin, he would've been amazing . But because Burton made he gothic & Gross , I didn't like The Penguin in Batman Returns . Thankfully Bruce Timm got it right in Batman : The Animated series .
Be careful here in talking about "getting it right". Because there really isn't any "right" or correct version. There are different interpretations, but all have something to them. One reason why so many can't accept the Burton movies is because they can't get past there rigid sense of how things must be like the comics.

DeVito's Penguin was great, no ifs, ands or buts. It was different, but that's perfectly alright. Same with Michelle's Catwoman. Everyone obviously has their preferences, and having seen Burton's versions I am ready for something different. But to say he got it wrong, while others have gotten it right. We're talking subjective preferences. There's no right or wrong.

Mark Skywalker
08-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Be careful here in talking about "getting it right". Because there really isn't any "right" or correct version. There are different interpretations, but all have something to them. One reason why so many can't accept the Burton movies is because they can't get past there rigid sense of how things must be like the comics.

DeVito's Penguin was great, no ifs, ands or buts. It was different, but that's perfectly alright. Same with Michelle's Catwoman. Everyone obviously has their preferences, and having seen Burton's versions I am ready for something different. But to say he got it wrong, while others have gotten it right. We're talking subjective preferences. There's no right or wrong.

I disagree , IMO Burton making the Penguin a monster was a wrong way to approach the Character especially since , everyone that knew anything about The Penguin in that era . Either only knew the classic comic book version or the 60's version with Burgess Meredith . In Which The Penguin dispite his bird nose like appearance was a gentleman of crime .

Yes DeVito was good , but his Gothic appearance and some of the disgusting scenes he had in the movie . Were awful . Bruce Timm on the other had corrected that mistake with Batman : The animated Series . The Penguin look was based off of Burton look. However Timm & company return The Penguin to the Classic appearance of a gentleman of crime .

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Everyone knows I want to see Black Mask; but, I haven't given too much thought of who should play him. I Ran the thought in my mind; and I think Sean Bean could do a pretty great job of playing the Jealous Billionaire turned mob King.

I think he playing Roman and then Black Mask would be a nice work-out for his acting skills and I think he's up for the challenge.

I also think the challenge of someone trying to defeat/destroy/kill Bruce Wayne adds another element that hasn't been brought forward yet. while Clearly Black Mask finds and adversary in Batman his want for "revenge" goes strictly to the Waynes.

It would be refreshing to see Batman struggling with how to keep BRUCE alive rather than the opposite; with Roman starting to become more and more of a threat he can somehow be introduced to Selena Kyle. When Roman sees this interest he thinks he's going to hit Bruce where it hurts most...her. Little does he know Kyle can fend for herself; which subsequently starts a war between her alter-ego and the mob; leaving much of Gotham stuck in the crossfire and Batman trying to settle the mob once and for all.


Between Bruce and Selena and Roman

Batman/Catwoman and Black Mask

And neither knowing the others' other identity; but, somehow being connected to that other identity; it has the nice framework for a mystery; perhaps ending in the same way Black Mask met his end in the comics. Angering an UNreformed Catwoman and getting his Jaw shot off. Batman wonders if he can trust Catwoman and then...

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:18 PM
Some TDK game news:
http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/-dark-knight-reigns-not-in-video-game/1235687

Mark Skywalker
08-09-2008, 10:30 PM
For those of you who followed the massive Viral Marketing of TDK .

Here is the a complete list of the film references

http://batman.wikibruce.com/Film_references

Raganork8
08-09-2008, 10:41 PM
For those of you who followed the massive Viral Marketing of TDK .

Here is the a complete list of the film references

http://batman.wikibruce.com/Film_references


Interesting

borgmatrix
08-09-2008, 11:28 PM
Yes DeVito was good , but his Gothic appearance and some of the disgusting scenes he had in the movie . Were awful . Bruce Timm on the other had corrected that mistake with Batman : The animated Series .
You seem to be missing my point, because you're once again talking about correcting a mistake. It wasn't a mistake. It was a choice. Naturally, not everyone liked that choice. But that doesn't make it wrong, because there's no requirement that one follow some "classic" presentation in order to make a good movie.

I'm not telling you to like BR or its version of Penguin. I'm just asking that you don't dismiss something simply because it doesn't follow the comics. I love Batman Returns, and I know there are others that do as well. It's a different interpretation, but not an invalid or "wrong" one, even if its not to everyone's liking.

Jjm3233
08-10-2008, 05:15 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20218131,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

Another week on top, and closing quickly to ANH.

DblDwn
08-10-2008, 05:30 PM
Box Office Mojo is projecting TDK as the winner of yet another weekend. Now in 3rd place all-time $19 million behind Star Wars for #2.

Mark Skywalker
08-10-2008, 09:23 PM
The Dark Knight Tops 4th Straight Weekend!
Source: ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47848), Box Office Mojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/)
August 10, 2008


ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47848) has posted the box office estimates, which show that The Dark Knight once again won the weekend!

Despite two more wide releases having entered theaters on Wednesday, The Dark Knight topped the box office for a fourth straight weekend, adding an estimated $26 million for a massive domestic total of $441.5 million. If the estimate holds, then the Christopher Nolan-directed film has surpassed Shrek 2 ($441.226 million) to climb to the third spot on the all-time domestic blockbuster list, trailing just Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope ($460.998 million) and Titanic ($600.788 million). Warner Bros. Pictures said it expects "Dark Knight" to end up with about $520 million domestically. The movie cost $185 million to make.

Click here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47848) for the full box office estimates.

Tovor
08-11-2008, 12:11 AM
Holy kachinging chunkachange, Batman! Whoa!


Remember that massive pile of money of the Mob's that Joker set afire? Warner Brothers is making it all back in excess, at the box office.

Mark Skywalker
08-11-2008, 12:18 AM
Extended version of BATMAN BEGINS & THE DARK KNIGHT soundtracks .


http://thedarkknight-lechevaliernoir.com/cariboost1/crbst_37.html

P-Ray
08-11-2008, 11:15 AM
TDK #1 for 4th week in a row!:rockon:


http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47848

RollaFett
08-11-2008, 11:34 AM
I dunno man. We're talking about Pineapple Express here. It's an Apatow production, with Seth Rogen starring. If the past year has taught us anything, it's that these movies will make mucho dinero.

Hey, I know all about Apatow. Fact remains that it's an R rated comedy, and it's gonna be on a LOT less screens than TDK. That's why it has a chance of another #1 weekend. I'm not predicting that it will be #1 again, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was. That's all. Conversely, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Pineapple Express knocked it off either. I definately foresee a close finish.
Hmmmm...not that I want to say I told you so, but...well, I actually didn't. I only said it would definately be possible for another #1 weekend. :P

borgmatrix
08-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Extended version of BATMAN BEGINS & THE DARK KNIGHT soundtracks .
Awesome, awesome, awesome!!! :) Thanks, man.

RollaFett
08-11-2008, 12:25 PM
^ Okay, so is this actually NOT on cd? Is it some sort of bootleg?

Mark Skywalker
08-11-2008, 04:55 PM
New Dark Knight online game from Comcast

http://www.comcast.net/thedarkknightmovie/game/

RollaFett
08-11-2008, 05:14 PM
That game sucks.

Mark Skywalker
08-11-2008, 05:47 PM
The Weekend actuals:

The Dark Knight:26,117,030

Total:441,628,497

450 million Here we Come .

The Overseas gross has also been underestimated by $400.000

New Gross: $263,500,000

Total Worlwide:$705,128,497

Mark Skywalker
08-11-2008, 06:17 PM
This is fan art from Z(+)DIAC @ SHH
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15438014&postcount=12721
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3...alfinalmk9.png (http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3585/tdkmuralfinalmk9.png)

Mark Skywalker
08-12-2008, 04:43 PM
Game Informer subscribers are in for a real treat this month. We’re proud to bring you the world-exclusive first look at Batman: Arkham Asylum from Rocksteady Studios and Eidos. This completely original title explores Gotham City’s darkest location, the infamous Arkham Asylum. But as a routine prison transfer goes wrong, The Joker sets his demented plan into action and Batman comes face to face with an army of his worst enemies. In a dark and gritty setting reminiscent of Bioshock (with a story co-written by Paul Dini), Arkham Asylum is setting the stage for a true-to-character Batman game. Also in the new issue, readers will find the top 25 games from E3 2008, an in-depth interview with Maxis’ chief designer, Will Wright and much, much more. Stay tuned to Game Informer Online as well because Unlimited readers will get screenshots, interviews and more for our cover story plus other great content on Aug 18.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Sto...1226.23309.htm (http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200808/N08.0812.1226.23309.htm)

kopernikuz
08-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Check out Batmans armor! Why couldn't they go for something like that in the films?

Mark Skywalker
08-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Update on Arkham Asylum info

Player Action Game, Playstation 3, Xbox 360, PC

Publisher: Eidos

Developer: Rocksteady Sudios

Release: 2009

- Clever choice of location moves the game away from an open world Spider-Man clone and more into the dark and gritty realm of The Chronicles of Riddick.

- Packed with Batman's most dangerous archenemies Arkham Asylum boasts a brand new story reminiscent of the depth and twists of Bioshock

- Story is written by Paul Dini (Batman: The Animated Series, Detective Comics)

- Wildstorm is crafting the authentic yet distinct new look for all the key characters

- Gameplay places just as much focus on Batman's role as a detective as his combat prowess.

- Game isn't being rushed to tie in with any TV/Film marketing cycles.

- Game runs on Unreal Engine 3

- Most of the game is played through an over-the-shoulder perspective

- You're going to see and get to fight against all the big super villains. Seen so far. Joker, Harley Quinn, Killer Croc, Zsasz, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze and others the magazine doesn't want to spoil.

- Allies revealed so far are Commissioner Gordon who plays a big role and Barbara Gordon (aka Oracle) who is your radio contact in the game.

- Game opens with the Joker surrendering himself and subsequently taking over Arkham because of some secret the facility holds

- Magazine teases that this game will be the ultimate Batman experience so the voice cast will reflect that (Think Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill).

- Arkham was chosen as a location because of its limitations including the fact that it's an island prison. It's a persistent location so you can visit any location at anytime including Batman's secret on site Bat Cave etc. Don't think that just because this is an island prison there will only be small hallways. The developers have taken into account all the construction/destruction of the facility over the years so locals will vary.

- Eidos' Batman license includes all 70 years of comic book fiction so they're pulling from all of that.

COMBAT

- Boss Battles won't necessarily be a series of straight pugilistic fights. Each enemy represents a different side of Batman and not all of them can match his wide skill set. Some battles are focused on combat others will focus on gadgets some are similar to giant Zelda style bosses.

- Combat description in the magazine talks about Batman perched on a high ledge in a wide open room as he watches some of the Joker's thugs rifle through drawers. Batman switches to investigation mode using a blue tinted visor that among other things lets Batman see his enemies through walls and identifies things like guns and knives. One thug is carrying a machine gun so Batman jumps of the ledge, spreads his cape and kicks him in the face. He then swipes his cape in a large arc to stun his other enemies and then goes to work on them with a stylish blend of punches, kicks, a knee to the face here a behind the back elbow there. Combat has a gymnastic flourish and is accomplished using only three buttons. Attack, Stun and Throw.

- Combat is only one element of the game so the developers didn't want a bunch of button combos that you'd forget because you'll be doing other things besides fighting.

- During battle a combo multiplier at the top of the screen will increase with every strike. Once the combo expires a colony of bats will swirl around Batman and then contribute to an experience bar on the left side of the screen. In an RPG like skill tree system players will be able to distribute points where they prefer. Think Combat moves, faster takedowns, or gadget upgrades like the ability to throw multiple batarangs at the same time.

- Gadgets are revealed by collecting items in secret rooms. You'll need gadgets to survive as there are very tough enemies in the game that you can't just go head to head with (Think Killer Croc, he's 10 feet tall in the game and super tough)

- There are sections that involve sneaking but the developers call them Predatory gameplay sections as stealth tends to imply weakness, they prefer to think of it as picking off the weak people or people you wouldn't last too long in direct fight with from strong positions. The example they give in the article is Batman creating distractions with bodies and victim's yells and then stalking the guards as they go to inspect.

DETECTIVE

- Developers have come up with a very "sexy" CSI style for forensic puzzles because Batman will always have the very latest gadgets.

- Investigative mode is the centerpiece in Batman's arsenal. The visor can highlight points of interest and much like the Metroid Prime games will scan items into your database.

- They also mention another forensic gadget, a fingerprint tracker that allow Batman to follow trails of fingerprints.

OTHER

- Magazine hints at the ability to play as the villains in the game. Not sure if this is inserted directly into the game or available as a second playthrough option.

- Magazine lists a few suggested reading items. Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, Batman: The Last Arkham, and Arkham Asylum: Living Hell.

GRAPHICS

- Game is very gritty looking. The screens in the mag are all inside Arkham and show case a few hallways, The Riddler's cell, A sewer etc. Lots of great lighting going on.

- Character redesigns are pretty good for the most part. Joker looks like classic Joker only with Heath Ledger style make up (long drawn on red lipstick etc.) he still has a the bright purple suit and bright green hair. Definitely more sinister looking than say the TAS Joker. Killer Croc is huge and looks more like Jim Lee's Hush redesign as opposed to some of the more human renditions of him.

- Batman is in the Black and Grey costume. It looks more like armor however his gauntlets in particular look like the ones from TDK. Overall it looks very awesome.

- The show screens of fights and predator segments and all look very interesting.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/12/ba...rmer/#comments (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/12/batman-arkham-asylum-revealed-by-game-informer/#comments)

Mark Skywalker
08-13-2008, 12:08 AM
And Here's an update on THE DARK KNIGHT : The video game

As it stands, nobody has commented officially on the specifics of the next Batman game. Hell, nobody has officially acknowledged that the game even exists. That doesn't mean we can't hear about it unofficially, however. So, courtesy of someone who's already played the game, let's look over the first details on what you can expect from it, and how it's shaping up.

Firstly, our source confirms Pandemic as the developers behind the title, though we pretty much knew that already. Secondly, a good portion of the game is set in a GTA-style rendition of Gotham City, which plays a lot like Spiderman 2 as Batman zips around (he even gets a grappling hook for swingy-swingy when not using the Batmobile) attending to crimes. And thirdly? As was first raised last week, it's not in the best shape, perhaps explaining why the project has been kept in the *ahem* dark for so long.

Seems the combat just doesn't work. Partly due to the game's wonky free-roaming camera system, partly due to the mashy hand-to-hand combat, partly due to the limited range of moves Batman has at his disposal, which makes the whole thing awfully repetitive. Which is a bit of a shame, though realistically, with no official announcement, let alone release date, there's plenty of time to fix that kind of stuff. On a brighter note, another source tells us Pandemic have taken a few creative liberties with the game, and while it's based on The Dark Knight, the game's actually set after the events of the movie, which should at least be interesting from a story-telling perspective.

http://kotaku.com/5035832/first-deta...ew-batman-game (http://kotaku.com/5035832/first-details-on-the-new-batman-game)

This newly announces game is not to be confused with the recently discussed Batman game allegedly in development at Pandemic for publisher Electronic Arts, and which is apparently an open-world title based on The Dark Knight movie.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=19816 (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19816)

Mark Skywalker
08-13-2008, 09:27 PM
Two brand new wallpapers

Mark Skywalker
08-14-2008, 11:17 AM
A trip back down memory Lane

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Tovor
08-14-2008, 01:05 PM
Is Bale from the UK? I hadn't heard his accent before, not even on talk shows when he's not disguising it.

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 01:24 PM
Is Bale from the UK? I hadn't heard his accent before, not even on talk shows when he's not disguising it.
He's Welsh, I believe. And from what I can recall, Bale usually doesn't hide his accent, so typically it is noticeable.

RollaFett
08-14-2008, 01:28 PM
I recently watched a bunch of extras from the BB dvd, though, and he actually does cover his accent on that.

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 01:54 PM
I recently watched a bunch of extras from the BB dvd, though, and he actually does cover his accent on that.
That's why I said he "usually" doesn't cover his accent. You know, meaning sometimes he does. :nahnah:

Regarding that period, though, from wikipedia: When promoting the film in interviews and public events, Bale reportedly retained Batman's American accent to avoid confusion with Batman being English.

From what I recall Bale saying recently, he's become comfortable enough with the American accent, and in going through long periods (such as with TDK) where he's using it, he finds it sticking around longer after movies and his usual accent not returning as quickly or easily.

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Hey, did you guys see Robert Downey, Jr's "f*ck DC comics" comment when talking about TDK at moviehole.com (http://www.moviehole.net/200814729-interview-robert-downey-jr-2)?

"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."

Maybe someone's a tad bit miffed about Iron Man getting smoked at the box office? :laughing:

That's alright. I still like Downey and Iron Man.

RollaFett
08-14-2008, 02:26 PM
Damn! That's a bit surprising. It's not as if Downey hasn't been involved with "smart" movies before. Y'know, apart from "Weird Science". ;)
I wonder if it is about the box-office, which would be sad considering how well Iron Man actually did. I mean, it's not as if Iron Man suffered from a bunch of bad reviews or anything and is getting crushed on that front by TDK. Hell, if anything, Iron Man is pretty damned comparable to TDK with reviews. It has a 93% on rottentomatoes, for cryin' out loud!
Man, it's a shame to read that bitter response from him. But I agree, I still like him and Iron Man.

Heh, heh...knowing Rags, he'll have a field day ripping that apart when he sees it.

RollaFett
08-14-2008, 02:33 PM
One more thought on that before Rags rips him apart.
As much as I loved IM, and Downey, maybe he is dumb. I mean, sure, TDK had a ton of stuff going on, and it was frenetic, but it was NOT complicated. I don't have a college education and I "got it." The more I think of that quote, the more disappointed I am.

Mark Skywalker
08-14-2008, 03:50 PM
Here's an IMPORTANT UPDATE

Scans from Game Informer on the upcoming Video Game BATMAN : Arkham Asylum.

THIS IS A MUST SEE .

Talcy
08-14-2008, 03:51 PM
Well, let's see, Mr Downey Jr...

A new guy, who the public love, is cleaning up the town. So is the Batman. A complete lunatic arrives and sees something of himself in the Batman and chooses to bring everyone down to what he sees as their level.

Said lunatic decides to do this by destroying the new guy, physically or morally, thereby murdering the public's morale and own sense of order.

He almost accomplishes this until the Batman chooses to take the blame for what the new guy did post-moral loss, choosing the right path and defeating the villain by protecting the public from their own potential for chaos.

Not hard. Not hard at all. Just a little deeper than the usual summer movie fare. A film that has substance and strong themes, as scriptwriting books and tutors are continually shouting at new writers to do in some form. And here's the thing; this "difficult" film has caught the public's imagination so mich that it has become one of the highest grossing films of all time (without adjusting for inflation :grin: ).

mattypo
08-14-2008, 03:59 PM
To be fair to Downey jr, i think his quote has been taken out of context, the interview it was taken from was part of promo work for Tropic Thunder, and all the cast have been riffing on a variety of movies while in character.

RollaFett
08-14-2008, 04:09 PM
Perhaps. But I gotta say, when you read the rest of the interview, it sure doesn't seem as though he was in any sort of character.

kopernikuz
08-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Hey, did you guys see Robert Downey, Jr's "f*ck DC comics" comment when talking about TDK at moviehole.com (http://www.moviehole.net/200814729-interview-robert-downey-jr-2)?
I thought it was tongue-in-cheek... RDJ talks a lot of stuff like that. It probably was bitterness, but since we can't see him say it, we don't know if he had that RDJ smirk and was being comical in the bitterness. He says all kinds of stuff like that, smiling and being sarcastic. Even the bitterness could have been sarcastic... who knows. I thought it was funny, lol.

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Even the bitterness could have been sarcastic... who knows. I thought it was funny, lol.
Like I said, I don't have any problem with him or IM. Yeah, it was entertaining. But regardless of how he said or delivered it, its odd. Not because of the f___ DC part, but more because of what Rolla said: kinda makes him look dumb.

If you're right, kop, and he wasn't serious, then why go on like he did? If he simply said its too complicated and so :censored: DC, that's one thing. But he goes on and on saying he didn't "understand what happened in the movie", didn't understand "what happened to the character" and didn't understand what happened "in the end." He even references The Prestige, saying he understood that, but not TDK. Additionally, he talks about feeling "dumb", about the "need for a college education" to follow the movie, and calls TDK "high brow". Yeah, maybe he's joking, but from what I can see, the only thing he's accomplishing is stressing how much of a dumb :censored: he is, and I'm not sure how that's humorous. Given the enormous BO killing, it would seem pretty clear that just about everyone on the planet could understand it. In that context, it seems odd to go on a riff about not understanding it for the sake of humor. If he was going to be funny about anything, how about an aspect that's actually widely criticised and poked fun at, like Bale's Batman voice?

To me, it seems like there's some underlying irritation on his part that despite IM's quality and success, TDK has far surpassed it.

RollaFett
08-14-2008, 05:14 PM
I thought it was tongue-in-cheek... RDJ talks a lot of stuff like that. It probably was bitterness, but since we can't see him say it, we don't know if he had that RDJ smirk and was being comical in the bitterness. He says all kinds of stuff like that, smiling and being sarcastic. Even the bitterness could have been sarcastic... who knows. I thought it was funny, lol.
Hey, I hope it was sarcastic, because as I said, it'd be a bit surprising if he was serious.
But, as borg points out, he went well out of his way to bring up specific points and even other films to make his point. It's damn near impossible to determine "tongue in cheek" statements when we're only left to read them, so who knows? If only written stories would start using smilies, then all of our problems would be solved. :P

kopernikuz
08-14-2008, 07:24 PM
He even references The Prestige, saying he understood that, but not TDK.
Well, it's another Nolan film, probably why... and yeah, it'd seem he's not joking there.. but again context makes a difference and unfortunately we don't get all the context.

I remember however that my first impression of the film (and I noted T-bone said the same) was that it was kind of cluttered with "stuff" going on and felt a little bloated in that sense... not enough for me to dislike the film, but I definitely felt I needed a second viewing, not just because it was great, but because I felt I needed a chance to catch up. I don't consider myself (or T for that matter) to be "dumb"... but I needed time to figure it out.

In fact, you mentioned the fact that it's making a mint being attributed to the fact that people "get it"... maybe it's making a mint because people have to pay to see it again to "get it"... LOL :P

Raganork8
08-14-2008, 08:25 PM
I just thought it was silly.

In my opinion TDK was infinitely better than IM. Mainly because it was deeper.

I found it funny that he makes fun of the deepness of the film; but, thats what Iron Man seemed to be missing the most.

yeah; If he's joking...fine. Still wasn't funny.

If he's not; just go to show...

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 09:40 PM
I remember however that my first impression of the film (and I noted T-bone said the same) was that it was kind of cluttered with "stuff" going on and felt a little bloated in that sense...
I loved Rolla's description. He called TDK "frenetic". That's the issue you're talking about. I, too, used the word "cluttered", and that's relative to the pace at which the movie moves. There's a lot going on with little time to think a lot of it through.

For that reason, repeated viewings help. But that's in picking up the details. The broad strokes are incredibly clear. I might have been uncertain about a lot of the details, but I knew what the various scenes were about and certainly what the movie was as a whole when I left the theater after my first viewing. Motivations, such as those behind Batman taking the fall for Harvey, came through beautifully.

In fact, you mentioned the fact that it's making a mint being attributed to the fact that people "get it"... maybe it's making a mint because people have to pay to see it again to "get it"... LOL :P
:) There's certainly something to that. But, again, I don't think anyone really comes away from the movie not understanding the story or being confused about what happened. There'll be small uncertainties, sure, but nothing beyond detail-oriented stuff.

Tovor
08-14-2008, 09:46 PM
...In fact, you mentioned the fact that it's making a mint being attributed to the fact that people "get it"... maybe it's making a mint because people have to pay to see it again to "get it"... LOL :P
Now there's a good point! Maybe you're right and had it been a simpler film it would have made half as much at the box office.

BTW, I just got back, not more than five minutes ago, from my 3rd viewing, so I've made my contribution to the TDK cash pile once more. And though I fully understood the entire plot from the first viewing, the enjoyment just gets even better with each viewing.

Mark Skywalker
08-14-2008, 09:46 PM
What Christopher Nolan has done with this Batman franchise is truly a remarkable story . Here is basically unknown director who Has had a successful run in most of the films he's done . Takes on a Franchise that at one time was a mega blockbuster film franchise, until it went down the tubes . Under his wing making it a Darker, more gritter , realistic psychological thriller Batman films . That seems to not only please us (Fanboy & fangirls), but also The Critics & the general movie audience Both Batman Begins & The Dark Knight are critically acclaimed & Mega Box Office Hits . Now it seems that other films are following Nolan formula . (Example - Iron Man)

To Quote Heath Ledger Joker

"You've Change Things Forever their's no going Back ."

As I've said early on in this thread

"Batman Begins Raised The Bar , The Dark Knight has redefined the Superhero genre FOREVER."

I wouldn't be surprised to see the massive influence TDK will have on the next batch of Superhero film that are on the horizon . I can't wait to see it .

borgmatrix
08-14-2008, 10:02 PM
I wouldn't say Nolan was unknown. He made quite a name for himself with Memento. And I saw Insomnia, as well. So I think he came into Batman with some authority and weight behind his name with those two efforts.

No doubt that what he did with these two Batman films is exceptional, though. And really, I've loved all his films. Excellent director.

P-Ray
08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
A fun Batman 3 speculation!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/37936

kopernikuz
08-15-2008, 11:40 AM
A fun Batman 3 speculation!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/37936
That poster is very cool... would be neat if true. :)

RollaFett
08-15-2008, 12:43 PM
In fact, you mentioned the fact that it's making a mint being attributed to the fact that people "get it"... maybe it's making a mint because people have to pay to see it again to "get it"... LOL :P
I see your point, but somehow i doubt people would pay money to repeatedly see a film just to "get it" more clearly. Liking the film would be reason #1 for me, at least, to pay to see a film multiple times. If I came out of a film and my first thought was, "Hmmm...y'know, I just didn't get it. I know, I'll fork over another $9.50 to try and sort it out." Screw that, I'd wait for a cheaper alternative to finally "get it".

Hmmm, now upon re-reading your post, I see that you were a bit "tongue in cheek". In that case, don't take my post as an attack or anything.

kopernikuz
08-15-2008, 01:27 PM
Hmmm, now upon re-reading your post, I see that you were a bit "tongue in cheek". In that case, don't take my post as an attack or anything.
Yes, I was being tongue-in-cheek, but see how hard it was when it was written versus being here with me? ;) Obviously I wouldn't pay to see it again to sort it out if I didn't enjoy it somehow the first time... but that is exactly how it was for me and TDK. I loved it, but I needed to see it again to figure out some things that didn't quite fit until I viewed it in different context.

Plus, I saw it at midnight and was barely able to stay awake during the closing battle with the sonar stuff... I saw it, but it was vague, lol... when the Joker/Bats confrontation occurred though, I was wide awake again. :P

RollaFett
08-15-2008, 05:00 PM
Well, yeah, like you, I intended on seeing it again as well. But the main reason would be because i absolutely loved the film and want to see it again. An added bonus seems to be that I'lll be able to grasp all of the nuances that may have slipped by the first time because of how frenetic it is.
ahh, screw it, I think we're on the same page. :cheers:

Commander Zero
08-16-2008, 03:37 AM
Another question... why didn't the police pin the killings to the Joker so they don't have to bother Batman and Batman can still continue serving Gotham without being a hunted vigilante?

Raganork8
08-16-2008, 08:46 AM
Another question... why didn't the police pin the killings to the Joker so they don't have to bother Batman and Batman can still continue serving Gotham without being a hunted vigilante?

Because Joker didn't do it.


The first film was all about Harmony and having a working system. That's what Gotham is working at. To throw Joker in Jail for something Harvey did would be illegal and working against the system; even if it works. You want the system to work you have to put away the criminals for what they did.

But also

"Sometimes the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people need to have their faith rewarded"


To do the right thing; but, also lie. they had to give the people something that would reward their faith in Harvey and pin the blame on someone who it was going to effect the least.

And If they chose to put the blame on Joker they'd be effecting the struggling the system.


At least that's how I took it

kopernikuz
08-16-2008, 09:28 AM
Because Joker didn't do it.
Um... neither did Batman. lol

I understand your point, but either way they're still twisting the system... and either way faith is maintained in Harvey... technically they've got more of a problem pinning them on Batman, because since his appearance in Gotham guns (and death) have never been a part of his MO and all of a sudden he's shooting people? I would think people would question that... but perhaps that's just me.

Raganork8
08-16-2008, 10:06 AM
Um... neither did Batman. lol

I understand your point, but either way they're still twisting the system... and either way faith is maintained in Harvey... technically they've got more of a problem pinning them on Batman, because since his appearance in Gotham guns (and death) have never been a part of his MO and all of a sudden he's shooting people? I would think people would question that... but perhaps that's just me.


People will doubt it; I understand that.

But Batman will never go in trail. Joker will; in that case the legal system is not going to be effected with something thats not true.

Batman will take the blame; but, the system won't be tainted...

does that make any sense?

Mark Skywalker
08-17-2008, 04:41 AM
I very curious to see how The citizens of Gotham will respond to Batman being wanted for Murder . Because if you were following the viral marketing for TDK (especially the Gotham Tonight videos) Overall The Citizens saw Batman as their protector . And one even made a comment about how Batman doesn't kill .

It should be very interesting to see how this will play out in the third film .

Mark Skywalker
08-17-2008, 10:15 PM
Dark Knight Passes Star Wars!
Source: Box Office Mojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/)
August 17, 2008


After four weeks as the #1 movie in the country, the reign of Warner Bros.' The Dark Knight (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15813) finally came to an end, but not before it amassed enough money to pass the unadjusted gross of George Lucas' 1977 sci-fi classic Star Wars to become the 2nd highest grossing movie domestically with an astounding five-week box office gross of $471.5 million! (Star Wars' unadjusted gross of $461 million included a number of re-releases since its debut thirty years ago.) While it has a long way to go if it wants to pass the long-held box office record of James Cameron's Titanic, it's more than likely The Dark Knight could become the second movie to ever make more than $500 million domestically. (Quite ironically, the continued success of Nolan's Batman film knocked George Lucas' new animated Star Wars: the Clone Wars (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=41868), the first movie in the franchise to be distributed by Warner Bros., down to third place for the weekend as well.)

You can read ComingSoon.net's full weekend box office wrap-up here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48043).

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7595

Mark Skywalker
08-19-2008, 10:54 AM
Here are some of the un-used posters from Batman Begins
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Overturetodeath/newest2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Overturetodeath/newest1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Overturetodeath/newest3.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Overturetodeath/newest4.jpg

P-Ray
08-19-2008, 04:03 PM
^ I was hoping that they were going to use one of these for the DVD cover!

Justin
08-19-2008, 04:23 PM
The third one is cool but the other ones are a little lame. They look like fan-made photoshop posters that you see all over the place.

RollaFett
08-19-2008, 04:26 PM
Yeah, there were a lot of really cool designs not used. I remember seeing them on the BB dvd.

Mark Skywalker
08-20-2008, 11:08 PM
^ I was hoping that they were going to use one of these for the DVD cover!

I'd have loved for the third poster to be the cover art for the 2 disc edition dvd .

Although the dvd cover for the 2-Disc Edition for BATMAN BEGINS kicked ass still especially if you got the Lenticular box cover art . Which I got .

RollaFett
08-21-2008, 01:14 PM
I still haven't seen TDK a second time yet. Balls. :(

Raganork8
08-21-2008, 03:00 PM
Thats funny because I've seen it like 7 times already

RollaFett
08-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Wow! Seven times? Damn, I feel so unworthy. :(
Maybe within the next couple of weeks, once the house buying thing gets wrapped up, I'll manage to squeeze in a 2nd viewing.

Tovor
08-21-2008, 03:21 PM
You definately have worthy priorities going on there, Rolla. You'll find the time, once you move in and unpack. Maybe you and the Mrs. should make time for a celebrationatory viewing at the end of the weekend, to rest up from the move.

RollaFett
08-21-2008, 03:40 PM
Yeah, because she's all about seeing Batman multiple times. [/sarcasm] No chance of that. More likely if I get to see it again, it'll be a couple of weeks from now.

borgmatrix
08-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Wow! Seven times? Damn, I feel so unworthy. :(
And hasn't Mark seen it more than 10 times? I think those two have enough viewings to cover for you. :)

Tovor
08-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Yeah, because she's all about seeing Batman multiple times. [/sarcasm] No chance of that. More likely if I get to see it again, it'll be a couple of weeks from now.
Point taken, though if I remember, she's a big fan of Begins, and was eager to see this one the first time. Ok, so I have a better idea that I know would excite her even more. Take her to see The Clone...

:scratchchin:

Eh, never mind.

empire21
08-21-2008, 07:44 PM
And hasn't Mark seen it more than 10 times? I think those two have enough viewings to cover for you. :)

More than 10 times?!

The movie was good but come on! :giveup:

Mark Skywalker
08-22-2008, 05:26 AM
More than 10 times?!

The movie was good but come on! :giveup:

I kid you not I have seen The Dark Knight 20 times in the theaters . :wink:

Orandhite
08-22-2008, 06:19 AM
You boys have far too much time and money! :D

Talcy
08-22-2008, 06:46 AM
I kid you not I have seen The Dark Knight 20 times in the theaters . :wink:

Dude, that is worrying!

Justin
08-22-2008, 05:56 PM
I kid you not I have seen The Dark Knight 20 times in the theaters . :wink:
I would never spend 200+ on a movie, I think you're nuts! Man that's just insane.

Talcy
08-22-2008, 05:58 PM
I saw TPM 10 times, but that was over the course of the year from release to the last time on Boxing Day. 20? Again, worrying.

Kapit
08-22-2008, 07:51 PM
20?! That's nuts! Even with free tickets I'll probably never see a movie that many times. The most I have is 7 for Transformers, with The Simpsons Movie and ROTS sharing the number 2 spot with 5 each.

borgmatrix
08-22-2008, 08:06 PM
20?! That's nuts!
Seriously. 20 times? I can't imagine anything crazier. I mean...wait...did you say you saw Transformers 7 times? 7 times? Transformers? Hmm. I respect TDK immensely, but 20 is kind of an insane number. And Transformers...well, let's just say my feelings lie on the opposite side of the spectrum with that. I think 1 viewing was too much there. You know...I think maybe both of you need to be committed. :wink:

:laughing:

Kapit
08-22-2008, 08:12 PM
You know...I think maybe both of you need to be committed. :wink:

:laughing:

Honestly, by that 7th time I was really tempted to just walk around the theater until the Autobots show up and they have that really cool transforming sequence. Then I would've walked around for another hour to wait for the final battle

Tovor
08-23-2008, 12:50 AM
*Ahem* I saw The Phantom Menace 27 times in the theater. No lie. No, I didn't buy 27 tickets. That came from seeing other films, and then jumping theaters to catch another TPM viewing every so often.

I liked AOTC even more, but only saw it 5 times in the theater.

I like ROTS most of all, but only saw it 3 times in the theater.

Go figure.

P-Ray
08-23-2008, 12:43 PM
*Ahem* I saw The Phantom Menace 27 times in the theater. No lie. No, I didn't buy 27 tickets. That came from seeing other films, and then jumping theaters to catch another TPM viewing every so often.

I liked AOTC even more, but only saw it 5 times in the theater.

I like ROTS most of all, but only saw it 3 times in the theater.

Go figure.
That's how it was for me as well!

I saw TPM the most and then decreased with each film:wink:

Tovor
08-23-2008, 12:53 PM
I guess that's what 16 years of waiting for a new movie did to us.

Jjm3233
08-23-2008, 01:30 PM
I agree Tov, I went more opening week for TPM (6 times) then I did total for any of the others.

Tovor
08-23-2008, 01:36 PM
6 times, eh? I hear ya. I actually saw TPM 3 times on opening day. I purchased the 3 tickets in advance because I knew I'd be so overwhelmed by the first showing that I'd want to see it again ASAP. And again, after 16 years, I just couldn't wait got the experience to come again.

But to get the thread back on topic, I have seen TDK 3 times and want to see it again. I don't think I'll want to see it anywhere near 20 times, but 4 times sounds good to me.

Mark Skywalker
08-23-2008, 02:02 PM
20?! That's nuts! Even with free tickets I'll probably never see a movie that many times. The most I have is 7 for Transformers, with The Simpsons Movie and ROTS sharing the number 2 spot with 5 each.

The film deserves it (pulls it helps that my cousin is a theater Manager and she's gave me a movie pass for my birthday, I've only used it this summer .)

RollaFett
08-24-2008, 01:38 AM
Well, a theater pass certainly would help, but still, it's hard to wrap my head around 20 viewings. Hell, it's only been in release for 37 days!
Damn, in the end, I'm jealous because I've still only seen a pathetic once. :(

Mark Skywalker
08-24-2008, 09:03 PM
18 Unused posters from The Dark Knight

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3931/tdku3ro6sm2.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tdku3ro6sm2.jpg)

http://www.tomasz-opasinski.com/

Raganork8
08-24-2008, 10:26 PM
Yeah

I saw this on SHH

The one of Joker's mid-section and the one with his faced blurred out are amazing

Mark Skywalker
08-25-2008, 01:19 AM
I can't wait to see TDK get $ 500 Million next weekend . It will do what no Superhero film hasn't done yet . Not even the Spider-Man film Franchise .

P-Ray
08-25-2008, 11:47 AM
Man...did I want it to beat Titanic!!!

Mark Skywalker
08-26-2008, 03:36 AM
Man...did I want it to beat Titanic!!!

I did too, But if it doesn't I'm sure the third film will attempt too .

Remember the old saying

"IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, TRY, TRY AGAIN."

Raganork8
08-26-2008, 10:30 AM
I've got to admit...almost 2 months after this movie has been out. I still find myself Obsessed with it.

I wonder if it's hype or am I really this smitten?

I absolutley LOVE this film. It's such a great work of art; but, it really puts forward some challenging ideas. Not to mention the Grade-A acting. I feel stupid now;because had I known it was going to be this; I would have gone to Chicago and tried to be an extra or something. Or get someone coffee.

borgmatrix
08-26-2008, 11:43 AM
I feel stupid now;because had I known it was going to be this; I would have gone to Chicago and tried to be an extra or something. Or get someone coffee.
Rags, you're shattering my faith in you. How could you have expected anything less than sheer brilliance? :wink:

In seriousness, I think the only surprise for me were the BO results. I didn't expect large numbers of people to be drawn to, or huge amounts of repeat viewing to result from, an overwhelmingly dark, grim movie like this. And I certainly haven't had any faith in general audiences being able to recognize a quality film. So I expected a :censored: great film, but a modest BO take ('modest' being relative, of course, since I was thinking $200+ minimum).

I'm still not sure if the mass audience understands just how good the film is. Maybe they do. My roommate gave it an A+, which for him is rare. I can't remember him ever giving a rating higher than a B+. Of course, in that sense, he's not like most. My other roommate actually wasn't certain he liked it better than BB.

I think the success is a combination of a) people liking BB, b) all the hype/praise over Ledger's performance, and c) the incredibly high praise the film as a whole as received. It's the "Event" of the summer, and as is usually the case when a movie like this arises, everyone wants to see it so they can say they did and get in on discussion.

But all that aside, I'm not sure how many are cognizant of just how great the movie was.

Raganork8
08-26-2008, 01:03 PM
Agreed; the Box office results surprised me as well. But I have to admit I wasn't 100% expecting this movie to be THIS wonderful. I expected a lot out of everything and STILL my expectations were blown away.

I have a very small part of the interrogation scene and I keep watching it over and over and over STILL in awe of how GREAT that one scene was.

Master Magnus
08-26-2008, 01:25 PM
I think that this could be a rumor, but I read in a Swedish paper that Cher might appear as the Catwoman in the next movie...

Orandhite
08-26-2008, 01:28 PM
WHAT?! NOOOOOOOOOO!

Master Magnus
08-26-2008, 01:32 PM
^:rofl: It seems as if it's just a rumor. I found this (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/08/cher-catwoman.html?iid=top25-20080826-Do+you+believe...in+casting+Cher+as+Catwoman%3F).

Orandhite
08-26-2008, 01:35 PM
:scared:

Magster! Don't DO that to me! :D

P-Ray
08-26-2008, 02:19 PM
I would personally hate that!

empire21
08-26-2008, 09:31 PM
:ugh:

Raganork8
08-26-2008, 10:27 PM
While I wouldn't want to see her as Catwoman

I feel like i have to mention that Cher is one hell of an actress.

Mark Skywalker
08-27-2008, 12:52 AM
^:rofl: It seems as if it's just a rumor. I found this (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/08/cher-catwoman.html?iid=top25-20080826-Do+you+believe...in+casting+Cher+as+Catwoman%3F).

THE HORROR OH THE HORROR ....!!!!!!!!!! :ugh::shocked::barf:

P-Ray
08-27-2008, 11:24 AM
Will Nolan do a 3rd Batman?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48253

borgmatrix
08-27-2008, 12:47 PM
Okay, I'm still struggling to understand the cell phone thing in TDK. Be patient with me here, people. I'm trying. :)

The way Fox was talking about it when he discovered the setup at R&D, it sounded as though Bruce had somehow modified all the cell phones in Gotham. But that's impossible. So if he didn't actually modify the phones, how was he getting what he needed from them to "see" all of Gotham?

Rags, you said something before about a satellite and bouncing signals or something?

Mark Skywalker
08-27-2008, 03:39 PM
Okay, I'm still struggling to understand the cell phone thing in TDK. Be patient with me here, people. I'm trying. :)

The way Fox was talking about it when he discovered the setup at R&D, it sounded as though Bruce had somehow modified all the cell phones in Gotham. But that's impossible. So if he didn't actually modify the phones, how was he getting what he needed from them to "see" all of Gotham?

Rags, you said something before about a satellite and bouncing signals or something?

Basically Bruce used The Government telecommunications contract Wayne Enterprise had and use the tech from it combining it with Lucius Fox's Sonar device . (If you would Batman created a type of prototype of Brother Eye (http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Brother_Eye#New_Earth) )

Raganork8
08-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Okay, I'm still struggling to understand the cell phone thing in TDK. Be patient with me here, people. I'm trying. :)

The way Fox was talking about it when he discovered the setup at R&D, it sounded as though Bruce had somehow modified all the cell phones in Gotham. But that's impossible. So if he didn't actually modify the phones, how was he getting what he needed from them to "see" all of Gotham?

Rags, you said something before about a satellite and bouncing signals or something?

Basically Bruce used The Government telecommunications contract Wayne Enterprise had and use the tech from it combining it with Lucius Fox's Sonar device . (If you would Batman created a type of prototype of Brother Eye (http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Brother_Eye#New_Earth) )


Correct; in the virals it is explained that Wayne Industries is using the satellites to update traffic on the railways and ferries.

Essentially he can just take every signal that runs through Gotham (which is project through the satellites) and use that signal like sonar; bouncing it back hard enough to create an image; that image is then subsequently recorded and projected down to the "Bat-cave"; the audio is a simple form of tapping.

borgmatrix
08-27-2008, 09:45 PM
Essentially he can just take every signal that runs through Gotham (which is project through the satellites) and use that signal like sonar; bouncing it back hard enough to create an image; that image is then subsequently recorded and projected down to the "Bat-cave"; the audio is a simple form of tapping.
I guess what I'm uncertain about, then, is how he's getting images from the rooms the phones are in. The device Fox had in Hong Kong, for instance, was specifically stated as being modified to send out a pulse that the phone then received back. So I get how the imaging is working there. If there are signals bouncing between the all the phones in the city and this satellite, okay, but there wouldn't be pulses being sent out from the phones themselves to bounce back from the objects of the room, would there?

The way my mind is wrapping around this, I'd expect that for the satellite to receive images, the phones would have to send pulses out into the surroundings, receive those pulses back to create the image of the room, and then that information sent up to the satellite. But I don't see how that's happening without modifying the phones themselves.

You talked about bouncing the image back (from the satellite) hard enough to create an image, but would that be possible of the phones aren't designed to send that kind of information back?

Raganork8
08-27-2008, 09:52 PM
I guess what I'm uncertain about, then, is how he's getting images from the rooms the phones are in. The device Fox had in Hong Kong, for instance, was specifically stated as being modified to send out a pulse that the phone then received back. So I get how the imaging is working there. If there are signals bouncing between the all the phones in the city and this satellite, okay, but there wouldn't be pulses being sent out from the phones themselves to bounce back from the objects of the room, would there?

The way my mind is wrapping around this, I'd expect that for the satellite to receive images, the phones would have to send pulses out into the surroundings, receive those pulses back to create the image of the room, and then that information sent up to the satellite. But I don't see how that's happening without modifying the phones themselves.

You talked about bouncing the image back (from the satellite) hard enough to create an image, but would that be possible of the phones aren't designed to send that kind of information back?


The Cells always are sending out a pulse; the connection to the satellite itself. it gets sent in a 360 direction. The Satellites are modified to pick up that pulse and then through some other computer that pulse gets redesigned as an image (accounting for things it comes into contact with...like sonar).


So the pulse every cellphone gives out is modified through the satellites and the machine at Wayne Corp. so the phones don't need to be modified. Just the configuration of how the pulse is received.



have I made that any clearer?

borgmatrix
08-27-2008, 10:11 PM
have I made that any clearer?
Okay, I think that works. Thanks. Yeah, I think I can wrap my mind around that.:herebeer::thumbs-up:

Mark Skywalker
08-27-2008, 10:24 PM
So the pulse every cellphone gives out is modified through the satellites and the machine at Wayne Corp. so the phones don't need to be modified. Just the configuration of how the pulse is received.



He connected it to his Cowl using his Cell phone which he keeps in his Utility Belt as a portable Transmitter & the mini-listening device in the right ear of his cowl .

RollaFett
08-28-2008, 11:23 AM
:rofl: This is pretty good, but be warned, it has some naughty language: http://www.the-editing-room.com/thedarkknight.html/all-comments/#comments

Mark Skywalker
08-28-2008, 05:34 PM
:rofl: This is pretty good, but be warned, it has some naughty language: http://www.the-editing-room.com/thedarkknight.html/all-comments/#comments


ROFL !!!!! :laughing::rofl::clap:

RollaFett
08-28-2008, 05:36 PM
Isn't it, though? I love being able to laugh at films that suck, but to be able to make fun of, and laugh at those jokes, of a truly terrific film is nice.

Mark Skywalker
08-29-2008, 06:53 PM
He's back

ItsJustSomeRandomGuy

"I'm A Marvel, I'm A DC" Parody. - Iron Man vs. Batman #5

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Morridini
08-29-2008, 06:59 PM
Checking it out now.

So I just got and read Tales of the Demon's Head, which is a TPB collection of Ra's al Ghul (and in case people didn't know, Ra's means Head, and Ghul means wright/demon, in Arabic) first appearances. And after having read it, I must say I now have a much bigger desire to see Talia in the third Nolan movie. Here's definitley a great romantic plot-line between her and Batty. Also now that she and Bruce has gotten a son in the newer comics.

Also, little fun fact. In one of the stories Ra's and Co were gassing Gotham, and they were wearing gas-masks which very much resembled the ones used by Liam Neeson and Co.

Mark Skywalker
08-30-2008, 12:36 AM
For anyone one who participated in The Viral Marketing for THE DARK KNIGHT .

TPTB at 42 Entertainment have spoken

Check it out .

http://creativity-online.com/?action=news:article&newsId=130602

Mark Skywalker
08-31-2008, 04:03 PM
THE DARK KNIGHT Box-Office Update

Domestic: $502,421,000
Foreign: $416,700,000
Worldwide: $919,121,000

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkknight.htm

Morridini
08-31-2008, 04:10 PM
So anyone know what budget this movie had?

Mark Skywalker
08-31-2008, 04:26 PM
So anyone know what budget this movie had?

Production Budget: $185 million

Dude they broke the bank and then some in it's first weekend .

Raganork8
09-03-2008, 09:30 AM
Polls name Joker best villain:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080903/lf_nm_life/poll_dc

P-Ray
09-04-2008, 10:26 AM
Aaron Eckhart discusses the future of Harvey Dent!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/38179

Raganork8
09-04-2008, 10:29 AM
:superhappy:

P-Ray
09-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Aaron Eckhart discusses the future of Harvey Dent!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/38179
Here's it on another site with fan comments on the bottom!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48470

P-Ray
09-04-2008, 11:39 AM
BTW, I don't think that I necessarilry believe this!

If Nolan wants Harvey/Two Face bad enough for storyline purposes, I'm sure that he would make it happen:wink:

Raganork8
09-04-2008, 11:40 AM
:hmmm:

RollaFett
09-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Hmmm...well, as I said previously on several ocassions, for the purpose of that particular story (TDK), his death fits. Overall, though, I still think that it's a shame to get rid of the character already, because comic flicks do it too often.
It's funny, because nearly all of the speculation going ito the flick was whether or not the Joker would be killed off, and borg and I expressed great regret if it were to happen. Naturally, we were very reliaved when this did not happen.
Not for one instance, going in, did I ever conceive of the thought that Two-Face would be the one killed off. Hell, I thought that Two-Face would get more of a "set up" treatment in this film and serve as the main villian for a 3rd movie. Damn.
And now, of course, there exists a morbid irony in the fate of those two characters. The Joker lives on and could appear in future entries, however, the actor who absolutely breathed such incredible life into that role is dead. On the other hand, Two-Face is killed off while the actor is alive and well and fully capable of reprising the role.
I'm very curious to see where this franchise goes.

kopernikuz
09-04-2008, 04:49 PM
I agree with P-Ray though... if Nolan wants him back... he can be back. And given the amazing secretive and twisty viral campaign TDK had... and given Nolan's misdirection ideas in The Prestige, I wouldn't expect them to say anything less. ;)

Not saying he's coming back... just that with Ledger's death, things changed... so who knows where they go now. It's Hollywood... the dead live all the time :)

RollaFett
09-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Very true. I meant to second P-ray's thoughts as well. Besides, let's not forget that this is report with some heresay involved. It's not a direct quote from Nolan. Not that I'm doubting it's legitimacy, but you just never know.

P-Ray
09-04-2008, 05:34 PM
Hmmm...well, as I said previously on several ocassions, for the purpose of that particular story (TDK), his death fits. Overall, though, I still think that it's a shame to get rid of the character already, because comic flicks do it too often.
It's funny, because nearly all of the speculation going ito the flick was whether or not the Joker would be killed off, and borg and I expressed great regret if it were to happen. Naturally, we were very reliaved when this did not happen.
Not for one instance, going in, did I ever conceive of the thought that Two-Face would be the one killed off. Hell, I thought that Two-Face would get more of a "set up" treatment in this film and serve as the main villian for a 3rd movie. Damn.
And now, of course, there exists a morbid irony in the fate of those two characters. The Joker lives on and could appear in future entries, however, the actor who absolutely breathed such incredible life into that role is dead. On the other hand, Two-Face is killed off while the actor is alive and well and fully capable of reprising the role.
I'm very curious to see where this franchise goes.
That is wild how that turned out!

If Nolan does do a 3rd film and with Heath's death and the Joker being unable to return(except with a different actor), he may decide to bring Two Face back!

Justin
09-04-2008, 07:06 PM
I hope they do The Riddler as a Zodiac-esque killer/thief with Catwoman in there too, or at least Selina Kyle before she becomes Catwoman.

Talcy
09-05-2008, 07:40 AM
One villain is enough for me next time.

Mark Skywalker
09-05-2008, 08:03 AM
According to Blue-Ray.com The official released date of The Dark Knight dvd is December 16th on all formats .

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1736

RollaFett
09-05-2008, 12:29 PM
ooohhhh....just in time for the holidays! Maybe I'll get a blu-ray player for X-mas as well to go along with the film on blu-ray!

P-Ray
09-05-2008, 12:43 PM
According to Blue-Ray.com The official released date of The Dark Knight dvd is December 16th on all formats .

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1736
Sure can't wait for this one!!!:wink::rockon:

Justin
09-05-2008, 02:41 PM
One villain is enough for me next time.
Catwoman is not really a villain. I don't want to see her as an antagonist in a Batman film.

Her relationship with Batman is in that gray "love interest/thorn in the side" thing, not a black and white "I must stop you to save lives!!" kind of thing.

Talcy
09-05-2008, 05:06 PM
That's true, but the script would have to be as tight as TDK in order to have her work for me, like Harvey not being a villain but a result of the Joker's plans (or lack thereof ;) ).

RollaFett
09-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Okay, so this wasn't really discussed in detail around here, so I'm bringing it up again.

Rachel's death shocked me. Not that a major character would be killed off, but that she was killed off. When you look at the 1st 2 films, Batman comes to her rescue four different times. It just seemed as though she would never be in any real danger of dying to me because Batman always manages to get there in time.
Another thing that that death plays into is how Bruce has even less reason to give up the mantle of Batman. He was so close to doing so, and mainly it seemed it was because of Rachel.

borgmatrix
09-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Another thing that that death plays into is how Bruce has even less reason to give up the mantle of Batman. He was so close to doing so, and mainly it seemed it was because of Rachel.
Like in Mask of the Phantasm, where Andrea was Bruce's one and only hope for a happy life. Without her, he was damned (so-to-speak) to be Batman for the remainder of his days.

It's the same in TDK, where he has nothing else left for him but Batman.

Mark Skywalker
09-06-2008, 01:49 AM
Rachel served her purpose , her death was inevitable . Now Bruce is basically forever left with being BATMAN FOREVER .

Raganork8
09-06-2008, 08:30 AM
Bruce needs to find his Quantum of Solace.

Sam Kenobi
09-06-2008, 10:27 AM
Personally, I don't see the main villian of the next film being one that's been in a film before. It won't be Penguin, Catwoman, or Riddler. Certainly not Freeze. It'll be fresh.

But the (proven false) rumors about a Harley Quinn character I ABSOLUTELY LOVED. Too bad.

Raganork8
09-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Besides Harley Quinn being a fan favorite I see no reason having her in the film.

I'm still on the Black Mask/Catwoman combo

Morridini
09-06-2008, 02:29 PM
I'm getting more inclined to see Talia over Selina now, we already have established Ra's so bringing in her wouldn't be too hard.

Mark Skywalker
09-10-2008, 07:09 AM
EMPIRE : The 500 Greatest Movies of all time - THE DARK KNIGHT Special Edition cover SOLD OUT !

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/500/covers/large80.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/500/cover.asp


Also Batman Returns cover featuring Catwoman
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/500/covers/large7.jpg

Raganork8
09-10-2008, 09:08 AM
Damn that just reminds me how cool Catwoman was in Returns...

P-Ray
09-10-2008, 10:13 AM
Besides Harley Quinn being a fan favorite I see no reason having her in the film

Plus,now unless they recast Joker, they wouldn't be able to introduce her w/o the Joker!

Sam Kenobi
09-10-2008, 10:17 AM
Yeah. I heard it after the fact and found the rumor to be wrong (someone posted it here) but if things were different, I would love it. I grew up watching the cartoons, so that's where that comes from.

P-Ray
09-10-2008, 11:04 AM
Yeah. I heard it after the fact and found the rumor to be wrong (someone posted it here) but if things were different, I would love it. I grew up watching the cartoons, so that's where that comes from.
I love the Harleyquinn character as well!

It sux b/c she would be alot of fun to see in a movie!

Mark Skywalker
09-11-2008, 08:28 AM
Great news fellow Batfans

MARK HAMILL (The voice of THE CLOWN PRINCE OF CRIME !!!! from Batman : The animated series ) will return to voice THE JOKER in the upcoming video game Batman: Arkham Asylum .

http://kotaku.com/5047657/mark-hamil...-arkham-asylum (http://kotaku.com/5047657/mark-hamill-you-to-appear-in-batman-arkham-asylum)

Now all we need is Kevin Conroy to return as BATMAN and were all set .

P-Ray
09-11-2008, 09:46 AM
Warner Brothers to rerelease The Dark Knight!

I had a feeling that they would do that!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7658

Raganork8
09-11-2008, 10:36 AM
So it could beat titanic...

I'll go see it again; that's for sure.

Talcy
09-11-2008, 10:40 AM
I don't think it will. And there's no need in my mind. It's already raised the bar so high for other comic book films.

RollaFett
09-11-2008, 04:52 PM
It ain't beating Titantic. Re-releases of this sort seldom do well at the box-office, especially if the film is already available on dvd.
Plus, if you factor in inflation, and you should, it ain't even close.

borgmatrix
09-11-2008, 05:14 PM
It ain't beating Titantic. Re-releases of this sort seldom do well at the box-office, especially if the film is already available on dvd.
Plus, if you factor in inflation, and you should, it ain't even close.
Can't hurt, though. I like the decision more for keeping it in peoples minds as Oscars near. I know everyone's focused on Ledger, but I'd also love to see a Best Picture nomination and victory.

And hey, this'll give ya a chance to get in some of those theater viewings that you've missed out on thus far. Or do you think the dvd'll be enough?

P-Ray
09-11-2008, 05:27 PM
Can't hurt, though. I like the decision more for keeping it in peoples minds as Oscars near. I know everyone's focused on Ledger, but I'd also love to see a Best Picture nomination and victory.

I would love to see it as Best picture!

Especially after some of the past choices they have made!

RollaFett
09-11-2008, 05:35 PM
Can't hurt, though. I like the decision more for keeping it in peoples minds as Oscars near. I know everyone's focused on Ledger, but I'd also love to see a Best Picture nomination and victory.

And hey, this'll give ya a chance to get in some of those theater viewings that you've missed out on thus far. Or do you think the dvd'll be enough?Yeah, I think it's more about the Oscar thing anyway too. And you're right, by then, I may have enough spare time to get to the theater again for a 2nd viewing! :w00t: Although, I'm sure I'll have the dvd as well, and that very well may be enough for me. We'll see.

Talcy
09-11-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm not sure about a Best Film nomination, but if Johnny Depp can get a nomination for Captain Jack, then to deny Heath Ledger one for the performance he gave would be downright criminal. Not comparing performances, just an example of an offbeat and popular role getting recognition.

RollaFett
09-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Couldn't agree more. I'd love to see a best picture nom as well, but I'm not holding my breath, although it's high time that a action/adventure type film finally got that type of recognition, IMO. Sometimes, a film of that ilk is actually worthy of such praise.

P-Ray
09-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Couldn't agree more. I'd love to see a best picture nom as well, but I'm not holding my breath, although it's high time that a action/adventure type film finally got that type of recognition, IMO. Sometimes, a film of that ilk is actually worthy of such praise.
If any film can change that, I think that it could be TDK!:wink:

borgmatrix
09-11-2008, 06:14 PM
I'd love to see a best picture nom as well, but I'm not holding my breath, although it's high time that a action/adventure type film finally got that type of recognition, IMO. Sometimes, a film of that ilk is actually worthy of such praise.
I don't see any reason why TDK would or should be excluded from consideration. ROTK won, and it had elves, orcs, wizards, magic, rings of power, etc.. What does TDK have that's even in the vicinity of those kinds of fantasy elements? As one reviewer after another has noted, the TDK's more comparable to something like Heat or The Departed. And if the latter can earn a Best Pic award then how can TDK not?

Mark Skywalker
09-11-2008, 06:14 PM
TDK is the best movie of this year period . It should clean up very well in awards .

Justin
09-12-2008, 01:02 AM
Couldn't agree more. I'd love to see a best picture nom as well, but I'm not holding my breath, although it's high time that a action/adventure type film finally got that type of recognition, IMO. Sometimes, a film of that ilk is actually worthy of such praise.
I think it has a good shot at Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay and Best Cinematography (is that a category??) as well.

Mark Skywalker
09-12-2008, 06:25 AM
THE DARK KNIGHT Has a total of 21 nominations for the upcoming 2008
Spike TV Scream Awards .


THE ULTIMATE SCREAM
Cloverfield
The Dark Knight
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Iron Man
LOST
The Mist

BEST FANTASY MOVIE
Beowulf
The Dark Knight
Hancock
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
The Incredible Hulk
Wanted

BEST SUPERHERO
Christian Bale as Batman; “The Dark Knight”
Will Smith as John Hancock; “Hancock”
Masi Oka as Hiro Nakamura; “Heroes”
Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man; “Iron Man”
Edward Norton as The Hulk; “The Incredible Hulk”
Ron Perlman as Hellboy; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”

BEST ACTOR IN A FANTASY MOVIE OR TV SHOW
Christian Bale; “The Dark Knight”
Heath Ledger; “The Dark Knight”
James McAvoy; “Wanted”
Edward Norton; “The Incredible Hulk”
Terry O’Quinn; “LOST”
Ron Perlman; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”

BEST VILLAIN
Tobin Bell as Jigsaw; “SAW IV”
Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane; “Iron Man”
Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent/Two-Face; “The Dark Knight”
Zachary Quinto as Sylar; “Heroes”
Heath Ledger as The Joker; “The Dark Knight”
Alan Rickman as Judge Turpin; “Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"

BEST ACTRESS IN A FANTASY MOVIE OR TV SHOW
Amy Adams : Enchanted
Selma Blair; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”
Maggie Gyllenhaal; “The Dark Knight”
Angelina Jolie; “Wanted”
Hayden Panettiere; “Heroes”
Charlize Theron; “Hancock”

BEST SUPPORTING PERFORMANCE
Jason Bateman; “Hancock”
Michael Caine; “The Dark Knight”
Terrence Howard; “Iron Man”
Doug Jones; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”
Gary Oldman; “The Dark Knight”
Shia LaBeouf; “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”

THE HOLY ****! SCENE OF THE YEAR
The Batmobile/Batpod Chase; “The Dark Knight”
The Big Rig Flips Over; “The Dark Knight”
Escape From Ten Rings Hideout; “Iron Man”
Iron Man’s First Flight; “Iron Man”
The Reverse Kill Shot; “Wanted”
The Statue Of Liberty/Empire State Building Attack; “Cloverfield”

MOST MEMORABLE MUTILATION
Attacked By The Infected; “I Am Legend”
The Autopsy; “Saw IV”
The Pencil Trick; “The Dark Knight”
Bitten By Vagina With Teeth; “Teeth”
The Leg Amputation; “The Ruins”
Attacked By The Flesh-Eating Tooth Fairies; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”

BEST SCREAMPLAY
“Cloverfield;” Drew Goddard
“The Mist;” Frank Darabont
“The Orphanage;” Sergio G. Sanchez
“WALL-E;” Andrew Stanton, Peter Docter & Jim Reardon
“The Dark Knight;” Christopher Nolan, Jonathan Nolan & David S. Goyer
“Iron Man;” Mark Fergus, Hawk Ostby, Arthur Marcum & Matthew Hollaway

BEST SEQUEL
The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian”
The Dark Knight
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Resident Evil: Extinction
Saw IV

BEST DIRECTOR
Tim Burton; “Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"
Frank Darabont; “The Mist”
Guillermo Del Toro; “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”
Jon Favreau; “Iron Man”
Christopher Nolan; “The Dark Knight”
Rob Zombie; “Halloween”

BEST F/X
Beowulf
Cloverfield
The Dark Knight
Hellboy II : The Golden Army
Iron Man
Wanted

BEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE
30 Days of Night
The Dark Knight
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man
Wanted

BEST LINE
“I believe whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stranger” (The Joker); “The Dark Knight”
“Why so serious?” (The Joker); “The Dark Knight”
“I will now make this pencil disappear” (The Joker); “The Dark Knight”
“Hulk Smash!” (The Hulk); “The Incredible Hulk”
“I am Iron Man!” (Tony Stark); “Iron Man”
“I’m not a baby…I’m a tumor” (The Tumor); “Hellboy II: The Golden Army”

VOTE FOR THE DARK KNIGHT @
scream.spike.com (http://www.spike.com/event/scream)

Talcy
09-12-2008, 06:40 AM
If any film can change that, I think that it could be TDK!:wink:
Still not convinced. As good as it was, the season for the award winners is upon is and with films like Australia, Che, The Changeling, The Wrestler and Slumdog Millionaire still to come out, I'd say the The Dark Knight is up against extremely stiff competition come awards season.

RollaFett
09-12-2008, 04:25 PM
I don't see any reason why TDK would or should be excluded from consideration. ROTK won, and it had elves, orcs, wizards, magic, rings of power, etc.. What does TDK have that's even in the vicinity of those kinds of fantasy elements? As one reviewer after another has noted, the TDK's more comparable to something like Heat or The Departed. And if the latter can earn a Best Pic award then how can TDK not?I agree. I truly feel it deserves to be there as well, but I am not going to assume it will be. I've seen enough robberies come award season that it simply would not surprise me if TDK got shafted as well.
My worry is that the voters who determine the nominations may be too old school in their veiws and dismiss it as just another comic book movie. I truly hope that that is not the case, but I fear it.

DblDwn
09-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Is it just me or do the other nominees for Best Line suck in comparison? I mean "I am Iron Man" is about the biggest Sabbath ripoff ever. "Why so serious" has that one locked up.

I heard the other day that they are going to re-release TDK in January, in time for awards season. Anyone think it has, by the time this run is over, another $70 million or so in it to give Titanic a run for its, um, money?

kopernikuz
09-13-2008, 02:13 PM
It's moved back a page now because of all the discussion, but that's the news posted that started the awards discussion in the first place. And some were already wondering that as well...

I think it might do it... I think it might give people enough time to want to see it again (even though it'll be on DVD by then).

DblDwn
09-13-2008, 02:20 PM
My bad. Thanks for the heads up. Sorry for the redundancy.

Morridini
09-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Any of you across the pond ready any of Batman RIP yet? As far as I have heard it's supposed to have a huge impact on the Batman series.

kopernikuz
09-13-2008, 02:29 PM
My bad. Thanks for the heads up. Sorry for the redundancy.
No sweat, was just letting you know some of the responses you might be looking for may be over on that page.

People are foaming at the mouth to see this beat Titanic.... I think it's hilarious. And I kind of hope it does too, but the fever pitch you see around the web in articles and forums and stuff... it's rabid, lol :laughing:

Personally I don't care all that much... unless it's accompanied by Batman punching Celine Dion in the face, lol.

DblDwn
09-13-2008, 02:39 PM
I'd pay extra to see that.

borgmatrix
09-13-2008, 03:31 PM
I agree. I truly feel it deserves to be there as well, but I am not going to assume it will be. I've seen enough robberies come award season that it simply would not surprise me if TDK got shafted as well.
My worry is that the voters who determine the nominations may be too old school in their veiws and dismiss it as just another comic book movie. I truly hope that that is not the case, but I fear it.
Yeah, well, my point was just that there is literally no reason they could use that particular excuse to dismiss it given ROTK. And just from watching TDK, there are almost no similarities in tone to most of the other "comic book movies." So they can dismiss it, but not that reason.

But there's no doubt that another crime could occur. They do, so often, seem to get it completely wrong. And, of course, I recognize there'll be strong competition, too, from other films.

I heard the other day that they are going to re-release TDK in January, in time for awards season. Anyone think it has, by the time this run is over, another $70 million or so in it to give Titanic a run for its, um, money?
It doesn't seem unreasonable. There's still some time left before its current run ends, right? So an additional theater release in January would only add to that. And certainly can't hurt.

P-Ray
09-13-2008, 04:03 PM
Any of you across the pond ready any of Batman RIP yet? As far as I have heard it's supposed to have a huge impact on the Batman series.
I've read a couple issues and am alittle confused by it!

Sam Kenobi
09-14-2008, 06:07 AM
It's still got another month or so in theateres.

Morridini
09-14-2008, 07:50 AM
I've read a couple issues and am alittle confused by it!

Well I've downl....teleported all the issues to my computer now so I can get a look at them myself.

empire21
09-14-2008, 08:26 AM
Personally I don't care all that much... unless it's accompanied by Batman punching Celine Dion in the face, lol.

That would be sweet! :laughing:

kopernikuz
09-14-2008, 09:57 AM
Well I've downl....teleported all the issues to my computer now so I can get a look at them myself.
Same here... does it matter what order you read them all in? Like do the Detective Comics come first, then Batman then Nightwing or vice versa... or one of each in a certain order then the next in each? I'm confused!

kopernikuz
09-14-2008, 09:58 AM
THE DARK KNIGHT Has a total of 21 nominations for the upcoming 2008
Spike TV Scream Awards .
Wow, awards that I could care less about, lol :laughing:

“I will now make this pencil disappear” (The Joker); “The Dark Knight”[/B]

Is that actually the line? I'm not sure he said it that way... can't remember... but either way the "How about a magic trick?" was a better part of the line in my opinion... since now it just drums up this dread, lol...

Morridini
09-14-2008, 10:16 AM
Well I got every issue from Batman 655 to 675 because those are the ones I haven't read yet (silly TPBs come out soo slow), however as to all the other Batman RIP tie-ins (Nightwing, Birds of Prey, Robin etc) I think are just "reactions" to the RIP story. So there aren't any real order of reading.

On the other hand, take a look at this list: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080807162256AAgKWVB

Mark Skywalker
09-15-2008, 08:10 PM
Justice League The New Frontier - Batman


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Mark Skywalker
09-18-2008, 06:24 PM
http://sinktitanic.com/why-so-serious/

Raganork8
09-18-2008, 06:29 PM
Wow, awards that I could care less about, lol :laughing:

Is that actually the line? I'm not sure he said it that way... can't remember... but either way the "How about a magic trick?" was a better part of the line in my opinion... since now it just drums up this dread, lol...

He said "I'm going to make this pencil Disappear."

There is no "now"

RollaFett
09-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Y'know guys, my sig could help with that line.

Mark Skywalker
09-24-2008, 07:17 PM
BB & TDK Make it into Empire's top 500 movies ever poll

BATMAN BEGINS - 81
Batman Begins (2005)
Director: Christopher Nolan
Nolan’s Year One rebirth of the caped crusader is a grown-up comic-book movie that placed the Dark Knight himself, rather than his gaudy foes, where he belonged... back in the spotlight. Read Review › (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?DVDID=11299)

http://www.empireonline.com/500/83.asp


THE DARK KNIGHT- 15
The Dark Knight (2008)
Director: Christopher Nolan
Ledger’s performance is monumental. Best comic-book movie ever? Certainly the most talked-about... Read Review › (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?FID=134520)

http://www.empireonline.com/500/93.asp

P-Ray
09-25-2008, 10:47 AM
What is TDK up to Domestically now?

Jjm3233
09-25-2008, 10:48 AM
Last I saw: $522 million.

P-Ray
09-25-2008, 10:59 AM
^Thanx!

Mark Skywalker
09-25-2008, 02:32 PM
Face TO FACE with TWO-FACE


http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK1T.jpg (http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK1.jpg)
http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK2T.jpg (http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK2.jpg)
http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK3T.jpg (http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK3.jpg)
http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK4T.jpg (http://www.swmmedia.com/TDK/TDK4.jpg)

Raganork8
09-25-2008, 02:39 PM
it's about time we got some Two-Face pictures

RollaFett
09-25-2008, 03:46 PM
^ Y'know, I was just thinking the same thing as I looked at them!

Tovor
09-25-2008, 04:19 PM
It's quite amazing, actually, that his face was (half) burned away so severely, charred and blackened, and his teeth are still pearly white. Seriously, he should be the poster boy for Colgate toothpaste. I'm tellin' ya.

Mark Skywalker
09-25-2008, 05:20 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/Hecubus114/scan0006.jpg

Raganork8
09-25-2008, 05:25 PM
Those are a credit to the CGI department; because Eckhart has a completely different face on than the Two-Face "face"

Really dives into the two emotions going on within Harvey; Anger and Sadness.

They did such a good job; it's hard to appreciate it without seeing the other half, no pun intended.

Mark Skywalker
09-25-2008, 05:49 PM
I agree Raganork

The CGI team did an outstanding job in making Two-Face so realstic in his appearence that you couldn't tell it was CGI .

Morridini
09-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Aww, I hate ruining the illusion. I want to believe they went and scarred Eckhart to make a most realistic movie!!!

Raganork8
09-25-2008, 06:08 PM
I agree Raganork

The CGI team did an outstanding job in making Two-Face so realstic in his appearence that you couldn't tell it was CGI .
That Eye matching is dead on!

Aww, I hate ruining the illusion. I want to believe they went and scarred Eckhart to make a most realistic movie!!!

lol...aww sorry

Mark Skywalker
09-25-2008, 06:23 PM
Aww, I hate ruining the illusion. I want to believe they went and scarred Eckhart to make a most realistic movie!!!

Well look at the concept art & The final version
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x135/symbiote24/FGDFGDG.png

Mark Skywalker
09-26-2008, 05:33 PM
TDK dvd

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/official-the-dark-knight-on-december-9th/5954

Mark Skywalker
09-26-2008, 08:29 PM
http://www.thehdroom.com/images/bluray/large/4624.jpg

http://www.thehdroom.com/images/bluray/back/4624.jpg

http://www.thehdroom.com/images/bluray/large/4459.jpg
http://www.thehdroom.com/images/news/3526b.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=7682

Tovor
09-27-2008, 12:45 AM
That Eye matching is dead on!
It's done very impressively, better than anything of its sort had been done before on film. But I am a nit picker, or picker of nits, when I note that the eyeball on the scarred face is not matched perfectly to the other, good eye. In his regular face you can see both pupils lined up with each other, and the pupil on his left eye (his left) aligned with a certain mark on his nose. In the scarred photo, the pupil, and thus the eye itself, is higher than that mark on his nose, and not lined up with the pupil on his good side. I.E. the scarred face pupil is higher up than the regular face pupil. I was looking for that in the movie and couldn't be sure but it had seemed just slightly off. Now in the still pic, especially comparing it to the good pic, you can see it.

Mark Skywalker
09-27-2008, 01:38 AM
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9558/darkknightadvertpicuv7.jpg
DEC. 9th

empire21
09-27-2008, 08:07 AM
I can not wait to see this in 1080p! :yeah:

P-Ray
09-27-2008, 09:42 AM
TDK DVD info from DVDactive.com!


http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/the-dark-knight.html

I know this is alread