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Handothrawn
08-27-2002, 08:51 AM
Why did the Rebels take the entire fleet to Endor? The Daeth Star's destruction was done by fighters, and the Falcon. And according to Mon Mothma the Daeth Star was unprotected. They had no idea the Imperial Fleet was there, so why did they take all of their's?
Jedi Master Shaft
08-27-2002, 03:16 PM
Good question... :scratchchin:
I think they took the whole fleet because Jedi was going ot be the last SWSaga moive ( in 1983 ) and they wanted the last battle to be the best battle...
That's it. If you want a SWUniverse answer, I can't help you. I agree that the Rebels did not have to take everything...
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bodhisattva yoda
08-27-2002, 08:50 PM
firstly, they weren't certain that the sheild was down, and secondly, they had to keep the ties busy, otherwise land would have had an entire fleet on his tale.
bodhisattva yoda
08-27-2002, 08:51 PM
'land' should read 'lando'...obviously.
JediBendu
08-27-2002, 10:57 PM
'It's a trap!' - ackbar, roj
Clara
08-28-2002, 12:04 AM
They took the fleet as they were unsure of what to expect. It is also possible that they knew that there was a Star Destroyer or two at Endor. And you need to have the medical frigate.
Handothrawn
08-28-2002, 08:34 PM
Why even send the strike team? Couldn't the Rebels bombard it from space, or just have a bombing squadron take it out? Even if there were SDs, which they didn't think there would be, a fighter's speed and manueverability is far greater than that of a SD at normal cruising speed.
AlanRJ
08-29-2002, 11:45 AM
The Rebels send their entire fleet to Endor, but why? Well lets put another light on it. You spend your life or several years fighting the oppression and tyranny of the Empire. Then a day comes along which, if victorious, the Empire will be no more, Vader and The Emperor will be dead. Do you really want to stay home for that one. I cannot see any Rebel even contemplating obeying any order that said stay home. Secondly, this is the biggie here. You win and it's all over, no more Emperor, no more Empire. You lose and you're not going to get another shot at the Death Star and secondly the Death Star vaporise any planet you will be on. As the guy in charge, are you really going to be speculative as to which ships you take and what you're not? I wouldn't have thought so, it's a do or die mission and ok they are under the impression that it's gonna be a piece of cake but lets face it. If under World War II and you're taking out a German battle emplacement and you know it's going to be a piece of cake and have the option of selecting some troops or taking your full complement, I'll go with the full complement thank you very much.
As for sending a strike team rather than an aerial assault, they didn't seem very sure about the bunker. The bunker could have been composed of heavy armament, the same armament that was on the AT-AT's which were impregnable under the snowspeeders assault, so its possible an aerial assault would not have been enough. Take Han when he took ownership of an AT-ST, instead of using its lasers to blast open the door, he went for the more subtle approach of conning the officers to open the door. Why? Is it because the doors would have been impregnable to laser fire?
Well thats my two cents worth anyway.
Senator Theant
08-29-2002, 07:28 PM
Good answers, AlanRj, that about sums up what I woulda said. Besides, with the destruction of their bases on Yavin and Hoth, and the evacuation of their base on Dantooine, maybe the Rebellion thought it better to chill in space a while. Being cornered like that and prevented from establishing any roots, its no wonder the Alliance elected to throw everything they had at the Death Star
Clara
08-30-2002, 02:12 AM
Considering what happened when they took on the last Death Star, I'd take the whole fleet. :cool:
nerfer
08-31-2002, 01:31 AM
Yes indeed it does pay to be prepared!
Besides it makes sense to take your big ships. They keep the big Star Destroyers off your back, while you deal with Ties.
I mean, the rebels aren't nearly as big in number anyway. Ties already outnumber them, so if they go up against ties and a destroyer with no cover, then they are royally screwed.
Handothrawn
08-31-2002, 02:21 PM
THE REBELS DIDN"T KNOW THERE WERE ANY STAR DESTROYERS!
The Rebel Capital Ships would have been usless against the DS, the Rebels weren't aware of any Star Destroyers. So why would they take more than just the necessary ships, and a back up force?
If you took your whole fleet, and you lost, you'd be royal screwed.
This was not a flame, BTW. Just voicing my opinions.
Handothrawn
08-31-2002, 02:23 PM
Hmmm, sounded a bit cruel didn't it? Sorry you guys and gals, its been a bad couple of days.
AlanRJ
08-31-2002, 06:48 PM
Well as far as the Rebellion was concerned, if they didn't destroy this Death Star now which held the Emperor and was not fully completed then they would be royally screwed once the new Death Star was completed and operational. Don't think the Rebellion could take on a new and improved Death Star once it was fully operational. Secondly, they would have to have known there would be one or two Star Destroyers around as the shuttle had to give its clearance code to someone.
Agree with AlanRJ on this one. They surely would've expected one or two star destroyers and certainly a superstar destroyer considering they knew the emperor was on board. They also probably expected a large force of ties so the whole fleet would be needed to protect the x-wings etc. And also agree on the strike force thing. The Naboo pilots couldn't beat the TF ship in TPM and it took Anakin from the inside so why couldn't things be the same on Endor.
Justin
08-31-2002, 11:48 PM
Maybe the fleet was there to provide cover for the fighters. Ok, that's kind of silly, but there are a lot of silly things in ROTJ, such as a legion of the Emporer's best troops being defeated by a bunch of teddy bears with rocks and sticks.
nerfer
09-01-2002, 12:16 AM
Thats k, handothraw, no offence taken.
I know the Rebels, didn't actually know there were star destoyers there.
But since they thought the Death Star wasn't operational, and was being shielded from the planet. I kinda figured, the rebels would figure, they might have some SD, in the vicinty to help protect it.
AlanRJ
09-01-2002, 12:18 AM
Well in reality, I would say that the Americans being defeated by the Vietnamese is silly as lets face it, the USA armaments would make the Vietnamese look like they hard rocks and sticks, yet they done it. They knew the terrain and used it. War is sometimes funny like that. The Stormtroopers and the Emperor were just too overconfident and you NEVER underestimate your opponent.
Senator Theant
09-01-2002, 04:56 AM
Lets not tie in the Vietnam War with all this ...
The two conflicts are completely separate stories and one of them is just make-believe battle. Dont compare the Viet Cong with Ewok enthusiasts.
I agree that [I][B]Movies[I][B] can be funny sometimes and hard to beleive, but what does that matter? We enjoy the saga all the same right? So as for the Rebel Fleet massing above Sullust and then launching their grand assualt on the Death Star, it seems plausible. The leaders of the Alliance (Mothma included) believed that the Emperor had made an "critical error" and planned to exploit the weakness at full capacity. WHy not send in the fleet and make a final attempt when the future looked bleak? Makes sense.
It does seem though that the rebellion underestimated the emperor even at the end. Yoda warned Luke against it, the jedi council and senate seemed oblivious to Palpatine in the PT. Damn that emperor is a clever and very evil guy.
Darth Vegas
09-06-2002, 10:03 AM
You know would I like to know?
Why did the fighters travel into hyperspace on their own power, instead of staying in Home 1's hanger?
That never made sense to me. ???
Darth Drew
09-08-2002, 05:35 PM
If would'nt have looked as cool style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif
Handothrawn
09-08-2002, 05:46 PM
I can't wait until I'm a Member II, then I can close this god-forsaken thread.
AlanRJ
09-09-2002, 08:16 AM
Well you are getting close to earning that priviledge.
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