Nothing Changes: Pre-Release Discussion

[Nathan Butler]

Rayzur's Edge Audio, the team behind the three acts of STAR WARS: SECOND STRIKE and the six current episodes of STAR WARS: ANTHOLOGY, is now beginning casting on a new audio drama project that resurrects the PRELUDE TO HOPE 2.0 script by NATHAN BUTLER (Second Strike, Anthology, ChronoRadio, et al) into a new tale entitled STAR WARS: NOTHING CHANGES, which will blend seamlessly into the continuity of SECOND STRIKE and ANTHOLOGY.

At present, the following parts are needed:

1. Skyben Lokan: Skyben is a Rebel agent. He's somewhat sarcastic, very much like one would expect of the attitude of a college student or FARSCAPE's John Crichton. He acts as one of three members of the protagonist group in the story, with a fair amount of airtime.

2. Supervisor Gildun: Gildun is an Imperial supervisor on the planet Ord Bendis. He is somewhat full of himself. He should most likely have an English accent, but that is not a requirement.

3. Captain Davin: Davin has a small role in the tale, but acts as our voice to take us out of the story and into its credits. He is captain of a Rebel vessel called the Stallion. He needs to be able to sound frantic but controlled.

4. Security Camera Operator: For an unnamed role, this role has a fair number of lines. He is a straightforward security officer for a private company.

5. Imperial Officer: Impetuous, probably young, probably English accent. Male.

6. Aide: Same general description as Imperial Officer.

7. Pilot: A handful of lines, no specific accent. Likely male.

To audition, provide files (or preferably LINKS to files hosted elsewhere) to nathan@starwarsfanworks.com.

Use the following lines, please:

SKYBEN: Hey, man, it's all about perpetuating the species. I'm hours of fun . . . Alright, fine. But a guy can dream, can't he?

GILDUN: Look around you, commander. Rebels. Bloodied, battered, bruised, and utterly beaten. These were captured in a raid on one of our perimeter stations. These Rebels attack military targets, not civilian. Are you certain of your information?

DAVIN: Rancor Team, are you receiving? Kova, are you there? Transmission unclear. Please respond.

OTHERS: Yes, sir. There should be no time delay. This footage is live.

[Jans_Walker]

Hmm, fresh meat. Expect something from me soon. Can you wait until Wednesday or Thursday without casting roles? Because that's about the time I'll be able to get an audition to you.

Chris

[Nathan Butler]

I should be able to.

[BryanH]

When will auditions be over?

[Nathan Butler]

Probably Wed. or Thurs.

[Eaglet]

Alright, I sent in my audition tape.


-Gregory

[Kheetor84]

These dramas need more chicks in them... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Heh, that's what Amy said.

But, alas, I've featured Amy tons and I've featured Krista a few times, so now I want to feature Lila. There's only so many characters in "my universe" that can sound alike. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[keithabbott]

In Rise of Nobility, we had a total of 6 females.

Padme Amidala - Elizabeth Ascot
Nordey - Pamela Kinney
Shmi - Linda Lyons
Dene - Lila Atherley
Guard #2 - Inari Icewalker
Cook - Susan Highsmith

Just for reference...anyhow style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Keith

[Nathan Butler]

2S had four:
Kristara Eri'lur - Amy Ferrell
Shista Ti'lana - Kate Chappell
Resistance Fighter 1 (Elimy Vasage) - Emily Savage
Nadix Rovas - Kate Singleton

Dreamscape had one very brief one-word female role:
Dira Ritah - Amy Ferrell

Addiction had one:
Miss Lira - Krista Kolesar

Responsibility had one:
Kolita Jessit - Amy Ferrell

ChronoRadio has had one female guest co-host:
Erica Strafford

Parallels had one:
Taleena - Krista Kolesar

The new serial edition has one:
Taun - Lila Atherley

Sadly, Doubts Cast and The Mob had none. Yep, I'm a bad boy.

Nothing Changes has one:
Triina Asante - Lila Atherley (presumably)

I think the big thing is just the lack of females who want in, and the lack of time many who do want in end up having to actually do it. I mean, a guy is easily replaced, but in this case, women aren't.

Of the ones I've worked with, Amy and Krista have appeared several times and might be almost too recognizable in my own stories now. Both also tend to have some timing problems with recording due to busy daily schedules. Kate Chappell isn't around a lot online anymore so she's tough to contact. Kate Singleton and Emily Savages were ex-girlfriends or ex-dated-girls who happened to answer my call for help on 2S, so neither of them will likely return. That's part of why I'm really getting into Lila's work because she's fast, efficient, very good, and not as recognizable in my own stuff so far.

But it's hard to get women into the genre, just as, at times, getting older sounding guys to is tough.

[Steve Mollmann]

Yeah, Sigma Phi Kappa has used about three females, one of which was my kid sister. She plays the computer in our Star Trek audios, and we also have a female doctor and a female captain in those. Our Doctor Who audios have had one female -- my sister again, this time playing a little girl -- and "Betrayed Federation" didn't have one. I don't know if our next Star Wars audio will have a female or not.

I suppose this is the way it goes when a group of guys gets together and says they want to make an audio adventure.

[Nathan Butler]

Okay, I *think* I'm going to call this one.

I've got auditions from (hopefully I can remember all off the top of my head): Walker; Gore; Nester; Mollmann; Van Der Leun; Harbin. I've got interest from: Smith and Koury.

I've also pretty much locked the mains.

So, we're probably looking at:

Traiven: Brian Bisetti
Dahrias: Mattew Gordon
Natavon: Michael Haspil
Jaliib: Brian Bisetti
Triina: Lila Atherley

Then I'm trying to sort out the rest, but I think we've pinned down Skyben, Davin, Security Camera Operator; and Gildun. The Aide, Pilot, and Officer will come from the others who have been listed up there. Right now, I can't recall who was who, though. I'll confirm this weekend, probably tonight, and post the final cast list. Then I'll send out the script and part list to those involved.

[Nathan Butler]

Okay, here's what looks like the final cast list for Nothing Changes:

Brian Bisetti as Traiven Kova and Jaliib.
Matthew Gordon as Dahrias Kova.
Edward Gore as Skyben Skyben.
Lila Atherley as Triina Asante.
Michael Haspil as Natavon Kova.
Steve Mollmann as Supervisor Gildun.
Christopher Walker as Captain Davin.
Hazen Nester as Security Camera Operator.
Gregory Harbin as Imperial Officer.
Michael Smith as Aide.
Ruben van der Leun as Pilot.
Sean Koury as Stormtrooper.
And Nathan Butler as Narrator.

[Eaglet]

Imperial Officer! w00t!

Just let me know when you need the lines...


-Gregory

[Nathan Butler]

ASAP, but no rush. In other words, I'd love to have them all together soon so I don't have to really worry about any last minute stuff like with To Overcome, but I'm not going to rush anyone at this point because, well, we just finalized the cast today, and it won't even begin to be mixed until after Steve is finished with To Overcome, which he only just today got the last part for.

So it'll be a bit. I'm thinking a late 2004 release, but we could be surprised.

[Kheetor84]

Even with that you still need more chicks. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Danath Vel'triarr]

"Hint hint"? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[WinterRose]

Oddly, in a few other audio projects I cannot provide examples of here (of an adult nature) I was able to pull off a female contralto that fooled people enough that they asked me who the girl was. I have that curse on the phone too. More often than not, I'm mistaken for a woman.

Telemarketer: "Yes, Ma'am. Can I speak with Edward Gore please?"

me: "Ohhh I'm sorry, you've got the wrong number there."

Telemarketer: "I'm sorry ma'am. You have a great day."

Yes... sometimes it has its advantages. -_o Speaking in my female register and upping the pitch but not the speed JUST a nudge seems to make it believable. A questionable superpower. But useful when it comes to readings. Just letting you folks know if you're absolutely desperate to fill another femme role sometime.

"So you believe..."
-Sith Acolyte #1, 'Star Wars - Resurrection'

Edward 'WinterRose' Gore

[Nathan Butler]

Heh, yep, Gore is goofy.

On another note, I do have Michael Smith and Steve Mollmann's parts in already. I'll record the narration part soon. For a team of only 13 and a project that won't go into production until at least To Overcome is done, that's not too shabby.

[Kehleyr]

Originally posted by NathanButlerSWT@Jan 21 2004, 09:01 PM
2S had four:
Kristara Eri'lur - Amy Ferrell
Shista Ti'lana - Kate Chappell
Resistance Fighter 1 (Elimy Vasage) - Emily Savage
Nadix Rovas - Kate Singleton

Dreamscape had one very brief one-word female role:
Dira Ritah - Amy Ferrell

Addiction had one:
Miss Lira - Krista Kolesar

Responsibility had one:
Kolita Jessit - Amy Ferrell

ChronoRadio has had one female guest co-host:
Erica Strafford

Parallels had one:
Taleena - Krista Kolesar

The new serial edition has one:
Taun - Lila Atherley

Sadly, Doubts Cast and The Mob had none. Yep, I'm a bad boy.

Nothing Changes has one:
Triina Asante - Lila Atherley (presumably)

I think the big thing is just the lack of females who want in, and the lack of time many who do want in end up having to actually do it. I mean, a guy is easily replaced, but in this case, women aren't.

Of the ones I've worked with, Amy and Krista have appeared several times and might be almost too recognizable in my own stories now. Both also tend to have some timing problems with recording due to busy daily schedules. Kate Chappell isn't around a lot online anymore so she's tough to contact. Kate Singleton and Emily Savages were ex-girlfriends or ex-dated-girls who happened to answer my call for help on 2S, so neither of them will likely return. That's part of why I'm really getting into Lila's work because she's fast, efficient, very good, and not as recognizable in my own stuff so far.

But it's hard to get women into the genre, just as, at times, getting older sounding guys to is tough.
hey!

I'm here!!!

I'm sorry I've been away, but I've been the primary carer for my Grandma whom has been having multiple strokes over the past year. Add that to 2 jobs and fulltime uni... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

But I'm here, I promise to be around more... I am always on ICQ: 172746 or MSN: kehleyr@hotmail.com if I am at work or home!

-Kate

[Danath Vel'triarr]

Heya Kate! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I love your voice style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Hope to hear you in more audio dramas style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif *looks at the various voice casters and producers in the 'room'* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Nathan Butler]

And . . . the part of Triina *may* be in the hands of Krista Kolesar now. It seems that due to various computer issues, Lila is leaving the fan audio scene (including all her various other non-SW projects) for the time being. I'll put up a note about it on Fanworks tomorrow most likely.

[Jans_Walker]

If you could e-mail me the script, Nathan, along with how you want the lines done, I'll get on them.

Chris

[Nathan Butler]

Sent, man.

And, by the way, of 13 parts for the project, I have 5 already in. And one of those is Matthew's AWESOME Dahrias Kova part.

We've seen him play a New Republic captain, a smuggler, and a Jedi Knight, but an Imperial-accent-laden Dark Jedi Guardsman? Oooooh, you ain't seen nothin' of Matthew yet.

[Nathan Butler]

And, looks like we only need two more file sets (three parts) and for me to redo the end credits to say Krista Kolesar as Triina Asante, rather than Lila Atherley. Once that tiny bit is done, it looks like NC will be ready for mixing.

EDIT:

No sooner said than contradicted. Make that ONE more file set, as we just got our Captain Davin lines in.

Woohoo!

[Kehleyr]

Originally posted by Danath Vel'triarr@Jan 27 2004, 11:24 PM
Heya Kate! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I love your voice style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Hope to hear you in more audio dramas style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif *looks at the various voice casters and producers in the 'room'* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
*waves*

And thanks mate style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Credits redone, talked to Steve about music choice, and got all the lines sorted out.

Now, we just need that one last set of lines in order for Steve or me to start mixing.

[Hybrid Sith]

So if Nat gives the ok for me to do the sound trk as well as the engineering props. It looks like I'm doing NC

[Hybrid Sith]

Granted he puts Blue Harvest in the classifieds

[Nathan Butler]

<--stoopid

BH totally slipped past me. I'll be getting that, the Ear Candy logo, and whatnot done today.

[LawgSkrak]

Hey Nathan, did Steve say he could fix up my lines? I'm still having e-mail problems, and I think the static problems are because of my speakers, which I won't be able to fix until I get new ones.

Let me know.
Sean

[Nathan Butler]

I haven't heard from him on them.

[Hybrid Sith]

Nathan how long do you anticipate Nothing Changes to be?
Sean’s lines will be just fine. I fixed plenty worse.

[Nathan Butler]

lengthwise? Uhm, I dunno, about the length of an Anthology episode, maybe a tad longer? Script is 28 pages, including coverpage and credits, so probably half an hour I'd bet. Responsibility was 18 and ran just under 19 minutes. Addiction was 17 and ran 16 min.

The story's fairly compact for something that jumps locations.

[Nathan Butler]

And . . . the last lines are now in. Line recording is complete. Mixing caaaaaaaaan begin.

[mbg98]

Hey Nathan,

Hong long does mixing usually take? And what kind of software do you use for it? Cause it rocks...
I've using this new software called GarageBand from Apple here at work, and i must say it's JUST like ProTools.

-Matt

[Nathan Butler]

Well, for the stuff I mixed (2S:2, 2S:3, and the first 5 Anthology eps), I used WaveLab. Off the top of my head, I don't recall what Steve mixed with for No Way Out and To Overcome, but that's presumably what Nothing Changes will be mixed in as well.

[Hybrid Sith]

I just finished editing, normalizing and compressing the entire dialog. I still got to break up all the lines. Cheers to those of you who broke up your lines. That and all the multiple takes made it a lot easier to work with. If anyone is wondering if your lines made the cut. All of them sound great! I would like all the email of those cast. Also I’m running a little behind, So don’t expect this one foe a while. As I plan to make it the “cream of the crop”

[Nathan Butler]

I'll PM you all the email addresses that I have later in the day.

[KarvoZem]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>. I don't know if our next Star Wars audio will have a female or not.[/b][/quote]

I'm sure we could fit a female role into Zem stand alone story.

[Hybrid Sith]

Nathan can you give me some details of the type of terrain and environments found on Selvina- III. Can you also supply me with Vader’s breathing?

[Nathan Butler]

Selvina III I had thouht of as a sort of agrarian world. Sort of an entire planet of midwest rolling hills, grass, trees, etc. Not populated beyond the family.

As for Vader's breathing, I believe I have that. I'll email you with it.

[Nathan Butler]

And, yes, folks, I'm almost positive at this point that NC will be the last original audio drama that I write. CR will continue, Fanworks will continue, and the SWT-G should continue, but I may stay away from fan fiction in both written and audio for a while.

Luckily, that overall saga will end on what I feel is a really high note.

[Steve Mollmann]

Never trust authors who say they've written their last thing. Case in point: Doctor Who writer Paul Cornell.

February 2000: Thenovel Shadows of Avalon is published, his last-ever foray into DW
March 2002: The audio drama Seasons of Fear is published, his last-ever foray into DW
November 2003: The online cartoon Scream of the Shalka is broadcast, his last-ever foray into DW
March 2004: Announced that he will be writing an episode for the new DW series

The dude's retired from DW three times so far! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Well, for me, there may be enough reasons to make this the last for a while. We'll see. A lot of stuff on my plate.

Maybe it'll return, but I think I'd rather focus on some other stuff for a bit.

[Hybrid Sith]

Nathan can you get me Dahrias making sparing sounds. I’d really like to hear him moving in the back round.

[Nathan Butler]

I'll email him about it. As soon as I get them, I'll get them to you.

[Josie Danger]

*sigh* I'm hoping my voice won't be that annoying to anyone, and I'm sorry if it is. I really want this piece to be great since it's Nathan's last fan audio, and I hope that I did an okay job of recording my lines. Nathan, you're an inspiration. I just hope I do the role justice, but knowing me, I probably botched it. Though, hopefully you can make something out of it... Maybe...*sigh*

Josie D. at your service style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Fan Audio Law #3: All females will be self-conscious about their participation.

[Hybrid Sith]

What the hell is Jillib? He sounds like an alien. I thought it was established that the Empire hired no aliens or few. What makes him an exception?

[Nathan Butler]

Jalib is meant to be a human, with a more Arab sounding accent. It's a play on another character. But he's definitely human with a different accent, like several others in the recent EU.

[Nathan Butler]

Heh, the "PTH?" question came up again on the TFN Fan Films board. I swear, what a mess the film created for itself, ey?

[Nathan Butler]

Steve, if you're out there reading this somewhere, Email or PM me. I've been trying to get in touch with you about the status of NC for a couple of months now via Email and PM.

[Nathan Butler]

Okay, so, here's an update. Not going to necessarily be seen as good news by all, but still, here it is:

As of right now, I've been having trouble getting confirmation from Steve as to how the project is going. I know that a few pickups were recorded a while back, but I haven't heard anything about where it is. It could be nearly done, or barely started. I seem to recall that Steve just had a new baby (well, his wife did), so I can totally understand that taking up a huge chunk of, y'know, life.

I'm still trying to get ahold of Steve, but here's the deal. Looking back at the files, I've started to put them into a montage in hopes that maybe if Steve has vanished, I can pick up the ball and start from scratch. In doing so, though, I realize why Steve must've been frustrated early on. Side by side, the audio volume levels of the files from person to person are astronomically different. Some are exceptionally loud, while others are barely perceptible compared to the other voices, with volume all the way up.

Also, while the performances sound good on their own, when I put them side by side, there's a lot of disjunction. That's my fault, since I didn't do a director's recording (I don't think) for this one.

With those issues in play, along with the complexity of this particular mixing job, I'm not sure that I am (in fact, I'm pretty sure that I'm not) up to the task of mixing Nothing Changes on my own. To get all the dialogue to match up well and fix some of the level inconsistencies will take someone better than I am, and even then, I can imagine that it would take all of the skills of someone at Steve's level to really pull it off the way it should be.

So, I'm going to keep trying to catch Steve. If he realistically thinks it can still be done, and he's fully into and interested in seeing it through to completion, then the project will remain an audio drama, as it stands.

If, however, he is unable to continue (or I simply still can't get in contact with him for a while), I will *not* be picking up mixing duties. We will simply bring the audio drama version of the project to an end. I hate to waste what was really Matthew's greatest performance, but it would be better for the storytelling as a whole to just end its audio drama life.

After that, there's a choice of what to do. I'll either leave the script as it is, or I'll turn it into a prose story. Either way, it's very likely to appear as a supplemental file with Second Strike and its related "Butlerniverse" audio drama, or as a bonus feature with the Fanworks sourcebook. Perhaps even as a new sourcebook unto itself with the story as a bonus, like the old Star Wars Adventure Journals.

Either way, it'll still get out there, but my feelings toward it as an audio drama, given my realizations about my own limitations and lack of contact with Steve, I cannot promise that it will still emerge as an audio drama.

It might even be better in another form, depending. We'll see.

I'll hold off my decision until I hear from Steve, or until I return from ConCarolinas, whichever comes first.

[Jans_Walker]

Just have the people whose voices were too low to hear re-record their parts. I do that all the time. And have people whose performances you think could be better re-record as well. It's what happened with RON, it's what happened with Invasion Begins.

[Nathan Butler]

It's a combination of things, though. One major factor is time. I've got the sourcebook to complete and a big overhaul on the timeline to do. Those and a few other things already have me trying to do a lot of CR work months in advance. I don't think that I'm going to have the time to mix. Also, the interpretations of some things were so different in the different recordings that it'd be some big changes in re-records, most likely if I were mixing it.

Nah, I think if I end up with the ball in my hands on this one, it's done as audio, at least for the time being.

[cinemafreak]

Seems its the curse of a PTH.

[Hybrid Sith]

well i’d been waiting on revised files from nathan. If i recall you were sending me rerecorded material, but i see you already have another serving on your plate. whats new. anyway i‘v completed ½ of the story and after seeing this thread i will skip the prerequested “rerecorded material” and move straight into the mastering prosess with what i have so i should still meet the proposed dead line the end of july. the 2nd half of the story i leave to you.

[mbg98]

So... does this mean its over? Or is Hybrid Sith (Steve?) finishing the job? I'd be a teenie bit miffed if the work I did for this was for naught... I was REALLY hoping to hear this one, as I thought it was the best AD Nathan script wrote, the most Star Wars-like....

[Nathan Butler]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>well i’d been waiting on revised files from nathan. If i recall you were sending me rerecorded material, but i see you already have another serving on your plate. whats new. anyway i‘v completed ½ of the story and after seeing this thread i will skip the prerequested “rerecorded material” and move straight into the mastering prosess with what i have so i should still meet the proposed dead line the end of july. the 2nd half of the story i leave to you. [/b][/quote]

The last I checked, there were no more revised materials you were waiting for. Everything you'd asked for had been re-recorded, or picked up, and had been sent your way via email or PM with links to the material uploaded to the server.

I don't recall there ever having been a deadline, only that we were looking at 2004. I was just quite worried when I received no response to any emails or PMs, which made me figure that it was possible that the project was dead without my knowledge.

As for the process, it's up to you what you do, certainly, but if the project is half-done, I'll look into the second half, but it's very likely that if it's going to be two halves with vastly different quality mixing, the project may still end up "on the shelf." It's unlikely, but still possible depending on how it all ends up sounding, that I'd try to pull a "Second Strike" on this one and split it up into acts by which mixer mixed. But we'll see.

Do you happen to know off-hand where the split occurs? That way I can at least go ahead and get started looking into what would be necessary for the half beyond that.

Given the option, though, I'd prefer the way we originally had it worked out: that you complete the mixing. But I *need* to be kept up to date on what's happening and I need to get responses when I contact for updates, or I have no choice but to assume the worst, y'know?

[Nathan Butler]

By the way, I wasn't trying to sound snippy there. From where I'm coming from, vast quality changes can be very jarring. I think I did an okay job meeting up with some of Chris Hanel's work so that Second Strike sounds fine when you listen side by side. But just in terms of clean output, not necessarily even sound effect mixing or music transitions, I would rate my own mixing abilities well below Steve's (or Abbott and company). When the story is only about 30 pages of script, it seems like a big quality change could be very jarring in such a short story. If at all possible, I want to avoid that, hence preferring that Steve finish the project as originally intended. Could I mix the last half? Probably, but it would end up being of such different quality that I'm not sure it'd be fully presentable for release.

I'd rather the release wait until 2005 rather than 2004, if it would mean that Steve could complete the work. My problem has nothing to do with Steve's mixing job, as I've heard nothing yet, but I have great faith after having heard No Way Out, his Jedi Duel demo, and To Overcome. I just need to be kept in the loop so as to ensure that the project is still going and so that I can make periodic updates to the Fanworks news page to make sure others, like myself, know the project is still going.

Most likely scenario if Steve *can't* finish the entire thing: I'd probably release what Steve does as Act I with appropriately altered, shorter credits, and release my "half" as Act II. If it splits with the transition from aboard the heroes' ship (the Thunderstorm) to the cliffs/ocean world (Ragesh), then I just might be able to handle that second half. It's not nearly as complicated as the first half.

Either way, Steve, just let me know. We'll figure something out so that the project can still get out there.

[Josie Danger]

I'm all for waiting. I'm a patient person. I think everyone would agree that this audio was one that the voice actors and actresses really enjoyed doing. I personally had a lot of fun!

I'm just happy to have had the chance to do an audio drama that has the potential to go places, and be heard. I just want to thank you again Nathan, and I'm sure like everyone else, even if it doesn't get done, it sure was fun recording the lines. (You wouldn't imagine the looks I got from some people *cough*). Thanks a bunch, and even if it doesn't come out, I want to thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the audio drama.

Let us not give up hope though, even if it take two or three years, I'll be here, waiting patiently.


Josie D. at your service style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif

[Nathan Butler]

See, it's strange. It seems like most of the people who acted for NC look at it as sort of the "big one," whereas, to me, it's sort of an addendum to the overall "Butlerniverse" story. It's a toss-in prologue of sorts to Second Strike that was never meant to exist, since it was originally to be PTH, a standalone film.

But yeah, I'd like to see it get out there. But the how, when, and in what form, are things yet to be determined.

[Hybrid Sith]

i understand you feel you've been left out of the loop. think back when i had last asked you to send me new versions of gildun and jillib. you told me you "stood behind jillib, go ahead and run it" and you would get in touch with gildun's creator. i've not heard from you since. so i believed you were working on getting me revised gildun lines. it turns out you've done everything but complete my request. i would like to see this audio drama be successful. i would like to complete it. i would also like to be kept in the loop. so how likely is it i'll get new gildun line and future requests?

[cinemafreak]

Nathan, its not always about you. Heeh.

I think that we're all (or at least more than 14 people) are looking forward to this. Every project that someone starts on is "the big one," and many would be willing to help out in any way.

Hybrid: Beware the Jabberwocky, my friend. The claws that Catch, the jaws that bing. And beware the frumious bandersnatch.

[Nathan Butler]

I seem to recall that it was said to be fine as it was, so I didn't look into it further after talking to Steve M. and going over the lines again.

But, I just talked to Steve M. again. He'll be recording Gildun a little less over the top today, hopefully. As soon as I have the files from him, I'll PM Steve F. with a location to get them from.

As far as the communication problems, if possible, we should probably try to keep updates going at least once a week, either via PM, via Email, or just in this thread, so that no further wires get crossed. With the exception of file linking and such, this'd be as good a place as any.

And, Rich . . . Yes, it *is* always about me. Just wait till CC next week. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Steve M. has just sent the link to the re-recorded Gildun. Steve F., check PMs.

[cinemafreak]

oh no, no, no Nathan, me boy. That weekend is about us. I now relinquish this thread back for its original intent, and I am glad to hear this project brought back from the brink.



Right?

[Hybrid Sith]

yes

[Nathan Butler]

FYI: I had a high school teacher everyone called "Brink." So, you're saying that the project has been stolen back from a track coach that showed elephantitis videos in econ class? Heh.

[Hybrid Sith]

The 1st instalment of NC is almost ready to go. Nathan and I are planning sometime around July 1st and the 6th.

[Steve Mollmann]

Ooh, I'm excited! I've got no idea what this story is about; I only read the scenes I was in, so I have no clue of the broader picture is. All I know is that Supervisor Gildun r0xx0rz.

[Nathan Butler]

Basically, we're splitting it into multiple parts, as it makes it easier on Steve (and our bandwidth!), and when all the parts are out, I think he's intending on putting all the parts together for one downloadable file.

The first part is more flashback than anything else, but you'll get to hear Brian Bisetti as Traiven (Lux from PTH, played by Devon Read), Matthew Gordon as Dahrias (Serus from PTH, played by Kris Newsom), and Michael Haspil as Natavon (Kahlain from PTH, played by Brandon Hillock). Should be pretty cool.

[Josie Danger]

Originally posted by Hybrid Sith@Jun 14 2004, 12:31 AM
The 1st instalment of NC is almost ready to go. Nathan and I are planning sometime around July 1st and the 6th.
Oh goody, goody, goody! I can't wait. I want to hear what we all sound like together. I hope we mesh well. I lost my voice for a few hours after I did this one. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Josie D.

[Jans_Walker]

Rats. I don't get to hear myself till the last one then. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Yep, very last lines of the very last part.

[LawgSkrak]

You'll also get to hear Sean Koury (Lawg Skrak in No Way Out) as Stormtrooper!!!

*everyone cheers*

hehe

[Nathan Butler]

Yeah, but not in the first one. It'll be a while on the stormie appearances, I think.

[Nathan Butler]

Just talked to Steve. The first part of Nothing Changes (the first serial part) is *done*. He's just needing to get it to me. It MAY release on July 1 with the other ton of releases, but it may be a tad later. Depends on the file transfer process and such. But I promise: before mid-July.

[Nathan Butler]

Yep, July 1. All SEVEN of the new releases for this weekend will be up TONIGHT around midnight or so, ET.

[Nathan Butler]

Well, it's released, so no more pre-release discussion. Closing thread and starting an official one.