Survey: Which movie is the most overrated?

[Agent Sith]

I enjoyed what everyone put in the "Most Overrated Bands" thread and how the arguing starting over what people said in there. Makes things interesting. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I wanted to start this thread as what people think are the Most Overrated Movies

I was thinking tonight how I feel that the Rocky movies are SOOOO overrated.

Any others?

[maddog62]

Saving Private Ryan

I know most of you disagree but I think it lacks story and Tom Hanks sucks.

He plays the same style charactor in every movie.

[brookie]

OHH MAN ! what a great topic
i have a freakin list of overrated movies, and working at a video store, i get to see the dumb bast*rds that rent them!
here we go ladies and gents here are the movies that IMO are worthy to be destroyed along with the people who made them

Pirates of the carriban

Seabiscut

Out of time

cast away

L A story (wtf?)

natural born killers

Igby goes down

[Mann]

Originally posted by maddog62@Jan 12 2004, 04:38 AM
Saving Private Ryan

I know most of you disagree but I think it lacks story and Tom Hanks sucks.

He plays the same style charactor in every movie.
Too bad he doesn't... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif Hanks is different in every movie! I mean honestly now How is Forrest gump ANYTHING like Jim Miller?

[Mann]

One word:

TITANIC! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Agent Sith]

noooooo, James Cameron is amazing and so are all of his movies. people just dont like Titanic cause its 1/2 of a chick-flick and cause its so popular. i loved it

[goodwije]

Speaking of actors who always play the same character, Brookie mentioned Out of Time (which i have not seen) but Denzel Washington always plays the same charaters. It seems to me.

[Dark_Jedi]

I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by goodwije@Jan 12 2004, 12:45 AM
Speaking of actors who always play the same character, Brookie mentioned Out of Time (which i have not seen) but Denzel Washington always plays the same charaters. It seems to me.
hellz yeah he does!

[brookie]

i enjoyed titanic mostly because im a huge kate winslet fan, i think that of she wasnt in it i wouldnt have liked it as much


i also think that matrix was so overrated although i did find it rather entertaining and i do own the movies but its still overrated.

[Lord Chaos]

I'll go ahead and say The Matrix is overrated. I haven't seen the sequels, and I like the first, but I think people just give it too much credit for basically nothing.

[Javen]

Here is my list:

About Shmidt

Chicago

American Pie 1,2, and 3

Pulp Fiction

Moulin Rouge

Pay it Forward

Blairwitch Project

Jerry Maguire

Pretty Woman

Armageddon

Harry Potter

Almost Famous

There are many more...

[DblDwn]

For starters I'm going to disagree that LA Story sucked because it is a satire of life in LA and since Brookie lives in Jersey then that explains why she probably doesn't understand it (hence the "wtf?"). I am also going to disagree that POTC was overrated because, if anything, Johnny Depp made that movie phenomenal. Pulp Fiction is a classic and one of the best movies I have ever seen. And the original Rocky is one of the greatest movies ever made. It's THE American Dream through the eyes of a boxer.

Armageddon was very overrated. It is watchable but it is not as great as people make it out to be.

Titanic did suck, for lack of a better word, and the only good part of the movie was when the ship sank because of the realism with which they pulled off the FX shots.

The same goes for Pearl Harbor. The only good thing about that roach of a movie was the attack because of the FX.

I know a few people who liked the movie Out Cold but I really could not get into it and if I see it again I may be forced to take my own life.

[brookie]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jan 12 2004, 12:46 PM
For starters I'm going to disagree that LA Story sucked because it is a satire of life in LA and since Brookie lives in Jersey then that explains why she probably doesn't understand it (hence the "wtf?"). I am also going to disagree that POTC was overrated because, if anything, Johnny Depp made that movie phenomenal. Pulp Fiction is a classic and one of the best movies I have ever seen. And the original Rocky is one of the greatest movies ever made. It's THE American Dream through the eyes of a boxer.

Armageddon was very overrated. It is watchable but it is not as great as people make it out to be.

Titanic did suck, for lack of a better word, and the only good part of the movie was when the ship sank because of the realism with which they pulled off the FX shots.

The same goes for Pearl Harbor. The only good thing about that roach of a movie was the attack because of the FX.

I know a few people who liked the movie Out Cold but I really could not get into it and if I see it again I may be forced to take my own life.
eh, im not from jersey, in fact im from CT , LA story blew, i understood it perfectly,

we obviously have different taste in movies since i think swingers was a heap of crap and one of the worst movies i have ever seen. maybe casue im a girl, i bet you like Rodger Dodger too, which was alos soo bad i had to turn it off, but i have to say that my boyfriend enjoyed it and it did have impressive dialogue, alas, it still sucked.
remeber this is not an attack on you, just the movie.

but, we do agree on one thing Pulp Fiction, is one of the best movies ever and is no way overrated, IMO.

[Darth Darthy]

Titanic was alright but it was way to long, I hate that fop-haired gimp and Kate Winslets bumpies weren't out long enough. And for some reason there was a psycho chasing them around with a gun while the boat was sinking...

[Saranac]

Full Metal Jacket

Juts didn't doo anything for me..

[hermit31]

Here's a couple that haven't been mentioned.

dirty dancing

independance day

[Javen]

Pulp Fiction is IMO seriously overrated, it's nothing special. Other than it jump started John Travolta's career from the dead. It was a step for Samuel Jackson. It had snappy dialogue, and in the end its graphic moments took it nowhere.

Jackie Brown was better than that.

[Whitesaber]

Dark_Jedi
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. [/b][/quote]

Dude, what were you doing spending $15 bucks at the movie theater in the first place?!?!?!

Mann
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>One word:

TITANIC! [/b][/quote]

Agreed. And I hate James Cameron.

Goodwije
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Speaking of actors who always play the same character, Brookie mentioned Out of Time (which i have not seen) but Denzel Washington always plays the same charaters. It seems to me. [/b][/quote]

Yeah. So does Robin Williams, most of the time. As with everything, there are exceptions.

Brookie
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>i enjoyed titanic mostly because im a huge kate winslet fan, i think that of she wasnt in it i wouldnt have liked it as much[/b][/quote]

Well, I think that's the only part I liked too, Brookie. *Ahem* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif What?

[brookie]

javen you are sooo right. pretty woman was soo bad i think i agree with everything you listed except pulp, but you know how i feel about that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[DblDwn]

Brookie, you and I can agree to disagree on both LA Story (which was not great or anything but I find it to be humorous) and Swingers (which is a Cult Classic among men everywhere).

And if Pulp Fiction is anything it is underrated. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jan 12 2004, 06:02 PM
Brookie, you and I can agree to disagree on both LA Story (which was great or anything but I find it to be humorous) and Swingers (which is a Cult Classic among men everywhere).

And if Pulp Fiction is anything it is underrated. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif
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[Momin327]

Originally posted by Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 01:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
I feel your pain...

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 12:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Be grateful you didn't, Revolutions definitely did not live up to the hype.

[P-Ray]

I'm sure I'll have more later, but I agree with the choices of Independence Day, Titanic, Pulp Fiction(the scenes with Bruce Willis and Ving Rhames), and that awful movie with Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif What the heck was that all about?

[Mann]

ok, the guy who said that all James Cameron movies are great needs to watch Piranha 2...

And I still think Titantic is an bad movie. Not because I hate chic flicks, but because I think that like Darthy said why does a guy keep shooting at them while the boat's sinking? Isn't that just stupid?!

[Marbleman]

I agree with alot of what has already been mentioned - I think Pulp Fiction is overated but still great.
There's Something About Mary comes to my mind. I was in a great jolly mood and ready for laughs and that movie still couldn't bring me to chuckle. Laughter was briming at my lips, waiting to be extracted. But the movie failed.

[The Prism]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Jan 12 2004, 07:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Jan 12 2004, 07:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 12:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time.* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Be grateful you didn't, Revolutions definitely did not live up to the hype. [/b][/quote]
Hype is stupid anyway. Must we be reminded of TPM? or even worse, the Godzilla nightmare?!

Regardless, I disagree about the Matrix sequels. They're vastly underrated as far as I'm concerned.

[brookie]

Originally posted by marbleman84@Jan 12 2004, 08:28 PM
I agree with alot of what has already been mentioned - I think Pulp Fiction is overated but still great.
There's Something About Mary comes to my mind. I was in a great jolly mood and ready for laughs and that movie still couldn't bring me to chuckle. Laughter was briming at my lips, waiting to be extracted. But the movie failed.
totally, i walked out of the movie!

[Mann]

Hype killed the Matrix movies. I got what I wanted out of them, good 4 hours of fun. ending made me mad though that they left it pretty closed off, but I say whatever, its their conclusion. I don't know why people hate these films so much though, what were they expecting?

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 12 2004, 07:10 PM
ok, the guy who said that all James Cameron movies are great needs to watch Piranha 2...

And I still think Titantic is an bad movie. Not because I hate chic flicks, but because I think that like Darthy said why does a guy keep shooting at them while the boat's sinking? Isn't that just stupid?!
Yes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif Cameron SUCKS!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Hype killed the Matrix movies. I got what I wanted out of them, good 4 hours of fun. ending made me mad though that they left it pretty closed off, but I say whatever, its their conclusion. I don't know why people hate these films so much though, what were they expecting? [/b][/quote]

I know I'm going to be trashed on for this, but since I'm known for taking out the garbage, well, so be it: What were they expecting? Star Wars. In a nutshell, they were expecting a great, classic, unforgetable trilogy. What they failed to realize was that they were in for a regular trilogy, nothing totally spectacular. I loved the Matrix movies, but compared to other trilogies, it doesn't compare.

And I especially despise what one critic said about Revolutions: "The conclusion to the best trilogy in cinema history!"

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 12 2004, 08:10 PM
ok, the guy who said that all James Cameron movies are great needs to watch Piranha 2...

And I still think Titantic is an bad movie. Not because I hate chic flicks, but because I think that like Darthy said why does a guy keep shooting at them while the boat's sinking? Isn't that just stupid?!
yea, that guy is me and Piranha 2 was his 1st movie. very very low budget and practice makes perfect.

and about the guy shooting on the Titanic, did you EVEN watch the movie? didnt think so. maybe you might wanna watch it again and not go into the movie by hating it.

this is why i hate so many people in this forum. you people hate movies even before you see them and you just dont like popular things. matrix, star wars, cameron. all of these were popular but became too popular, therefore people started hating them. pisses me off

[brookie]

um i like titanic :withstupid:

many people do become turned off when things become "mainstream" most of these people are fairly young and dont realize that if one hears about it. its mainstream...

i like titanic and didnt think it was a chick flick at all, i mean dude, i like lizzy migure movie AND kill bill
ahhhhh prefrence....sweet sweet prefrence...

[Seanakin]

I compare Titanic to Episode I, actually...well-produced, badly-written.

[Dark_Jedi]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 12 2004, 04:12 PM
Dark_Jedi
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time.* * *

[/b][/quote]
Not in theater. I bought it.

[maddog62]

Originally posted by goodwije@Jan 12 2004, 05:45 AM
Speaking of actors who always play the same character, Brookie mentioned Out of Time (which i have not seen) but Denzel Washington always plays the same charaters. It seems to me.
I can go with that.

[maddog62]

Originally posted by Saranac@Jan 12 2004, 08:46 PM
Full Metal Jacket

Juts didn't doo anything for me..

I agree but I don't think its that big of a movie. I was a Marine and I don't think it was that realistic.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by maddog62+Jan 12 2004, 10:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maddog62 @ Jan 12 2004, 10:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-goodwije@Jan 12 2004, 05:45 AM
Speaking of actors who always play the same character, Brookie mentioned Out of Time (which i have not seen) but Denzel Washington always plays the same charaters. It seems to me.
I can go with that. [/b][/quote]
I don't think so. He may play the same kind of characters often (lawyers, cops), and he may haveplayed two characters who's last name is a letter, but take a look at his filmography, his characters in Glory, Training Day, Philadelphia, Malcolm X, The Siege, Virtuosity, and so forth are nothing alike.

But I do think he's a bit overrated. I liked Training Day alright, but I didn't see it as an Oscar worthy performance.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 12 2004, 08:32 PM
and about the guy shooting on the Titanic, did you EVEN watch the movie?* didnt think so.* maybe you might wanna watch it again and not go into the movie by hating it.

this is why i hate so many people in this forum.* you people hate movies even before you see them and you just dont like popular things.* matrix, star wars, cameron.* all of these were popular but became too popular, therefore people started hating them.* pisses me off
I'm sure "The Movie Mann" saw Titanic, I saw it too like all the other sheep, and I'm certain I never will again.

It's not the worst film ever made, but it's certainly not that great either. It's one of the most overrated films of all time as far as I'm concerned.

Do you think can you just accept that opinion and continue the thread without silly comments like the one I quoted up there?

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 13 2004, 04:32 AM
and about the guy shooting on the Titanic, did you EVEN watch the movie? didnt think so. maybe you might wanna watch it again and not go into the movie by hating it.

In what document did a psychotic butler go around the Titanic shooting at people as the place sunk? I saw the movie before I hated it. Sorry its crap. Pure overdone beautifully shot and designed crap.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by P-Ray@Jan 12 2004, 05:00 PM
and that awful movie with Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif What the heck was that all about?
As Good As It Gets is still one that I watch over and over again. Great acting and a phenomenal script plus you've got Jack in top form.

And just because Titanic sucked arse doesn't mean that Cameron is a bad Director. He has still given us Terminator (the movie that made Arnold a star), Aliens (a solid sequel to the original), The Abyss (a very good, underrated film), T2 (one of the rare times that the sequel is better than the original), and True Lies (one of the last Arnold movies that was worth watching).

You can't say he sucked because of Titanic because, even though most of us here are not the biggest fans of it, it is still numero uno on the all-time list that counts and that has to do with money.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jan 13 2004, 05:54 AM
And just because Titanic sucked arse doesn't mean that Cameron is a bad Director.

He's not, whoever said that should be shot!

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 13 2004, 02:31 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 13 2004, 02:31 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Sith@Jan 13 2004, 04:32 AM
and about the guy shooting on the Titanic, did you EVEN watch the movie? didnt think so. maybe you might wanna watch it again and not go into the movie by hating it.

In what document did a psychotic butler go around the Titanic shooting at people as the place sunk? I saw the movie before I hated it. Sorry its crap. Pure overdone beautifully shot and designed crap. [/b][/quote]
ummmm, its half fiction and true story. wow, you totally missed that about the movie. NEWS FLASH: there was no giant diamond that some rich ***** named Rose had. it makes the movie more enjoyable to watch to have some fiction in it.

i just think you guys dont like it cause its blew away Star Wars in gross earnings, actually earned the right to many Oscars and because it is so popular. yea its a chick flick and i hated seeing it in the theaters with tons of crying little girls, but it has a good story and great action and an interesting plot. yea sure, the acting wasnt the best ever, thats why Kate and Leo didnt get their Oscars

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jan 13 2004, 01:57 AM
It's not the worst film ever made, but it's certainly not that great either. It's one of the most overrated films of all time as far as I'm concerned.

Do you think can you just accept that opinion and continue the thread without silly comments like the one I quoted up there?
opinions opinions my good friend. I could say that Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are the most overrated pieces of crap and I'm not wrong. Just live with it Bond that others can disagree with you in life.

And if you wanna get into it with great Directors, you really can't deny that Cameron has had more success, better writing, better movies, more movies, and more involvment than Lucas or Jackson. Personally, I think they are all great directors, but its just Lucas and Jackson so far are sorta one hit wonders. and i did say "sorta", so dont bark at me about there other works cause i know of them.

[DblDwn]

I would rather have seen a nonfiction recount of the events of the maiden voyage as told through the eyes of the survivors (like Molly Brown) as opposed to a made up and boring back drop about Rose, Jack, and his desire to draw and to "never give up."

That is what ruined the movie for me.

[Blizzard]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jan 13 2004, 08:54 AM
And just because Titanic sucked arse doesn't mean that Cameron is a bad Director.
Whoa, he's my favorite director!!!

[Justin]

Titanic isn't really a bad movie. When I saw it in the theater I thought it was amazing. It was less impressive on video though. I agree that a lot of it is fluff, and if I were making a film about the Titanic I would have made it an anthology type film, like Love Actually's format of several different stories interweveing. I think it could have been about an hour and a half shorter and the romance not the driving force of the movie, but the sinking of the ship is fantastic.

[Seanakin]

On the plus side, Kate Winslet was HOT. Hot hot hot hot, HOT. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by Seanakin@Jan 13 2004, 06:11 PM
On the plus side, Kate Winslet was HOT. Hot hot hot hot, HOT. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
HELLZ YEAH!

[Handothrawn]

Originally posted by Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 12:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Just to point out, the Matrix sequels were one movie, they were divided due to length, they're like Kill Bill vol. 1 and 2, one really long movie, divided because of length, you can't say Reloaded was bad, becuase Reloaded was only the first half of the movie.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Handothrawn+Jan 14 2004, 02:17 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Handothrawn @ Jan 14 2004, 02:17 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 12:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Just to point out, the Matrix sequels were one movie, they were divided due to length, they're like Kill Bill vol. 1 and 2, one really long movie, divided because of length, you can't say Reloaded was bad, becuase Reloaded was only the first half of the movie. [/b][/quote]
Slight difference.

Kill Bill Vol 1 was a good film which was entertaining. The Matrix Reloaded was utter bollocks during which many of the audience I saw it with killed themselves rather than sit through another minute of it. I myself survived by eating my left leg.

Reloaded was bad. Bad. BAD.

[Justin]

Revolutions was worse.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Justin@Jan 14 2004, 02:40 AM
Revolutions was worse.
The middle one was the worst for me. Mainly because the story was utter bollocks and also because it had no end.

Revolutions was utter bollocks too - but at least it was the last one. And they were both so crap and they both did so badly - that the viewer had the considerable satisfaction of knowing for sure that there would never be another one.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 13 2004, 06:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 13 2004, 06:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jan 13 2004, 02:31 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Agent Sith@Jan 13 2004, 04:32 AM
and about the guy shooting on the Titanic, did you EVEN watch the movie?* didnt think so.* maybe you might wanna watch it again and not go into the movie by hating it.

In what document did a psychotic butler go around the Titanic shooting at people as the place sunk? I saw the movie before I hated it. Sorry its crap. Pure overdone beautifully shot and designed crap.
ummmm, its half fiction and true story. wow, you totally missed that about the movie. NEWS FLASH: there was no giant diamond that some rich ***** named Rose had. it makes the movie more enjoyable to watch to have some fiction in it.

i just think you guys dont like it cause its blew away Star Wars in gross earnings, actually earned the right to many Oscars and because it is so popular. yea its a chick flick and i hated seeing it in the theaters with tons of crying little girls, but it has a good story and great action and an interesting plot. yea sure, the acting wasnt the best ever, thats why Kate and Leo didnt get their Oscars [/b][/quote]
Two things to point out:

Jack and Rose were based on a true set of passengers that sent love letters to one another. How do I know this? In Boston, where I was born, the titanic was on exhibit and they did talk about two people that were secretly in love and that their story is what the movie is based on.

The heart of the Ocean is also based on a real jewel.

Don't remember any accounts of passenger having to dodge bullets from crazy english butlers...

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 14 2004, 03:30 AM
How do I know this? In Boston, where I was born, the titanic was on exhibit

Holy s**t!

They got the whole ship up! That must have been something to see?

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 13 2004, 09:30 PM
Jack and Rose were based on a true set of passengers that sent love letters to one another. How do I know this? In Boston, where I was born, the titanic was on exhibit and they did talk about two people that were secretly in love and that their story is what the movie is based on.

The heart of the Ocean is also based on a real jewel.

Don't remember any accounts of passenger having to dodge bullets from crazy english butlers...
well everything is loosely based off of some reality. and how do WE know that some crazed idiot didnt start firing a gun at another passenger due to jealously or about money or whatever.

I see your point Mann and I hope you see mine, but I think that this scene shouldnt be the reason why you dislike the movie or Cameron

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by brookie+Jan 13 2004, 07:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brookie @ Jan 13 2004, 07:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Seanakin@Jan 13 2004, 06:11 PM
On the plus side, Kate Winslet was HOT. Hot hot hot hot, HOT. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
HELLZ YEAH! [/b][/quote]
damn Brookie, so you like Kate Winslet too. Probably the nude scenes, am i right? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Kate does have nice jugs and I DONT GET WHY this movie got a PG-13 rating. same goes for Empire Strikes Back or Attack of the Clones getting PG ratings. I think Cameron and Lucas paided off the FCC

[Agent Sith]

back on topic.......

Another movie I think is totally overrated is ANY Hugh Grant movie......how the hell is he famous!!!?!?!!?!?!

[Dark_Jedi]

Originally posted by Handothrawn+Jan 13 2004, 07:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Handothrawn @ Jan 13 2004, 07:17 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dark_Jedi@Jan 12 2004, 12:48 AM
I'll give you an overrated movie: The Matrix 2 (can't remember what its called)

That had to be the worst movie I have ever seen. I'm never going to watch the third. It was a complete waste of $15 and my time.* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Just to point out, the Matrix sequels were one movie, they were divided due to length, they're like Kill Bill vol. 1 and 2, one really long movie, divided because of length, you can't say Reloaded was bad, becuase Reloaded was only the first half of the movie. [/b][/quote]
Yes I can, I will and I do. Like I said, I'm not going to see the third; or 'the next part of it' if you like. I don't think it would be worth my time.

[Phil Tinajero]

I have to say Finding Nemo. Not that I didn't like it, because I enjoyed it. It's just that everyone was stressing how GREAT it was and I was constantly seeing these commercials that were reminding us that it's "still in theaters" and now I see the same commercials reminding us that it's on DVD. That's what jumped the shark for me. It was an okay movie.

[Agent Sith]

i agree.....

how did Bruce Almighty, Finding Nemo and Pirates of the Caribbean make so much money this year? It doesnt make any sense. Another movie I dont get why it made so much was Spiderman, yea it was a great movie but not $400+ million. Same goes for Return of the King, cause most trilogies decline in sales but I think this one is due to people jumping on the ban-wagon

[goodwije]

I liked Pirates but i have yet to see Spiderman, and i saw neither in the theater. I can see why Pirates made so much money though. Spiderman is an old franchise that got a lot of publicity.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 10:57 AM
Same goes for Return of the King, cause most trilogies decline in sales but I think this one is due to people jumping on the ban-wagon
A look at the box office for the Star Wars Saga, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, James Bond, and even The Matrix, will show that later installments in those series made more money than the original. The Two Towers made more than The Fellowship of the Ring, so in the case of The Return of the King this should come as no surprise.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 06:57 PM
i agree.....

how did Bruce Almighty, Finding Nemo and Pirates of the Caribbean make so much money this year? It doesnt make any sense. Another movie I dont get why it made so much was Spiderman, yea it was a great movie but not $400+ million. Same goes for Return of the King, cause most trilogies decline in sales but I think this one is due to people jumping on the ban-wagon
Sith, tell me what movies you think should have made the most money this year? I wanna know honestly, no mean comment intended. those three films had things in common, they were comedies. Audiences love comedies, and not to mention the lure of Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp made girls LOVE pirates. Jim Carrey will always be a box office hit, and to see him play God was something everyone wanted to see. Finding Nemo was a Disney movie, with ellen DeGeneres stealing the show. Plus good word of mouth for all three of these movies.

[Agent Sith]

i dont know which moves SHOULD have made the most. but these are the best of films we had this year. most critics and viewers will agree. these just are movies that have the same feel as older movies in the past years have drawn with enjoyment from the population.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Finding Nemo was a Disney movie, with ellen DeGeneres stealing the show. [/b][/quote]

ewww, dont ever say that again. i hate that woman, she needs to go away.

[Mann]

Sith, I don't think you understood my question, mainly because you don't understand how POTC, FN and BA got so much money. What movies do YOU think should have earned the most?

I will say that again. Ellen DeGeneres is a comic genius. She made Finding Nemo.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 14 2004, 07:22 PM
I will say that again. Ellen DeGeneres is a comic genius. She made Finding Nemo.
no she isnt. her and melissa etheridge are only around anymore cause their gay. both had there moment and had to rely on their sexuality for publicity.

and i did understand your question. jeez, what an attitude you have. chill out mannnnnnnnnn, i mean man. And think about it, these movies made money cause they were average when every other movie this summer was POOR and terrible at best. Think about, theres always gonna be some movie to make tons of money cause people are gonna goto the theaters no matter what

[Mann]

Somehow I don't think that Dory being gay was ever mentioned in Finding Nemo...

[Agent Sith]

yea thats nice, but I wasnt talking about her being gay in the movie or mentioning it there. maybe you should read my post again. sound familar mann?

back on topic....

[Mann]

what, you brought up her sexuality. She didn't get popular because she was gay did she?

[Marbleman]

You said that "she is only around anymore cause she's gay." If that's the case, then her popularity should revolve around her "gayness" and not around her humor. But clearly, her humor is the bottom line - alot of which was found in Finding Nemo.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 14 2004, 07:39 PM
what, you brought up her sexuality. She didn't get popular because she was gay did she?
no but her career was slipping big time so she had to announce her sexuality. same goes for anne heche and many many other actors/actresses. majority of the public hate her and dont find her funny at all. but its your opinion if you enjoy her humor, congrats.

once again, back on TOPIC......

another overrated movie I thought of today, Gladiator. way to predictable in my opinion, but still a good flick

[Mann]

Sith, Ellen's career slipped, when she said she was gay! Not the other way around. Look at her career before her annoucment. Anne Heche is just crazy.

The majority of the people hate her? that's a statemtn you can't back up. And we sort of are on topic, you mentoine dfinding Nemo, she was in finding nemo, you mentioned how you think she's overrated, and look at the thread we are in.

But ellen has had a rough life post coming out. two shows fell through, people didn't repsect her for a while, she lost her girlfriend and such. Now post Nemo she has a new life, talk show life is good. Little to do with being gay.

[Seanakin]

I was gonna say "Stay on topic" but it looks like this convo's swerving back in that direction. Carry on. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 01:57 PM
i agree.....

how did Bruce Almighty, Finding Nemo and Pirates of the Caribbean make so much money this year? It doesnt make any sense. Another movie I dont get why it made so much was Spiderman, yea it was a great movie but not $400+ million. Same goes for Return of the King, cause most trilogies decline in sales but I think this one is due to people jumping on the ban-wagon
i know why bruce almighty made money and pirates... cause those movies sucked. and it seems that movies i enjoy besides LOTR and star wars and such dont make the money , hell i personly dont give a jumpin ho ha cause i didnt make the film , but lets face it kids, the sum of the american poulation of movie goers wouldnt know a good movie if it kicked them in the ass, here is what i hear all day,

"do you have seabiscut"
"what about swat"
"has the return of the king come out on video yet?"
"how about brother bear? i didnt see it on the self"
"do you have star wars OT on dvd?"

but hey, im not a hater, im a lover, and maybe they are not into movies such as myself, i shouldnt judge, but i cant help ranting, and hell ,some people are just dumb.

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 14 2004, 07:27 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 14 2004, 07:27 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 14 2004, 07:22 PM
I will say that again. Ellen DeGeneres is a comic genius. She made Finding Nemo.
no she isnt. her and melissa etheridge are only around anymore cause their gay. both had there moment and had to rely on their sexuality for publicity.

and i did understand your question. jeez, what an attitude you have. chill out mannnnnnnnnn, i mean man. And think about it, these movies made money cause they were average when every other movie this summer was POOR and terrible at best. Think about, theres always gonna be some movie to make tons of money cause people are gonna goto the theaters no matter what [/b][/quote]
finding nemo was freakin funny and ellen did make the movie, IMO, she is funny as s*it, have you even seen her stand up? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

[maddog62]

Originally posted by brookie+Jan 15 2004, 02:24 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brookie @ Jan 15 2004, 02:24 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 07:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 14 2004, 07:22 PM
I will say that again. Ellen DeGeneres is a comic genius. She made Finding Nemo.
no she isnt. her and melissa etheridge are only around anymore cause their gay. both had there moment and had to rely on their sexuality for publicity.

and i did understand your question. jeez, what an attitude you have. chill out mannnnnnnnnn, i mean man. And think about it, these movies made money cause they were average when every other movie this summer was POOR and terrible at best. Think about, theres always gonna be some movie to make tons of money cause people are gonna goto the theaters no matter what
finding nemo was freakin funny and ellen did make the movie, IMO, she is funny as s*it, have you even seen her stand up? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif [/b][/quote]
Sorry Brookie, Finding Nemo is no where as cool as Lilo and Stich or Mosters Inc. It was a Bore. Anybody could have played the voice of Dory and pulled it off. I hate Rosie but she rocked in Tarzan. Hay, I got a 2 year old.

[Blizzard]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Anybody could have played the voice of Dory and pulled it off. [/b][/quote]

I totally disagree.

Just keep swimmming, just keep swimming... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/notify.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by Blizzard@Jan 14 2004, 10:16 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Anybody could have played the voice of Dory and pulled it off.

I totally disagree.

Just keep swimmming, just keep swimming... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/notify.gif [/b][/quote]
yeah blizzy represent!

i disagree with maddog nemo was funny funny
ellen made that movie

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 07:11 PM
i dont know which moves SHOULD have made the most. but these are the best of films we had this year. most critics and viewers will agree. these just are movies that have the same feel as older movies in the past years have drawn with enjoyment from the population.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Finding Nemo was a Disney movie, with ellen DeGeneres stealing the show.

ewww, dont ever say that again. i hate that woman, she needs to go away. [/b][/quote]
movie critics suck and have their heads up thier asses

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 14 2004, 05:15 PM
Sith, Ellen's career slipped, when she said she was gay! Not the other way around. Look at her career before her annoucment. Anne Heche is just crazy.
Mann is right, her leaving of her closet almost ruined her career.

Most overated movies : Spiderman, Daredevil and Gladiator.

I almost typed the LOTR movies , they are good but not among the 100 best movies.

[brookie]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha+Jan 14 2004, 10:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lord Rocha @ Jan 14 2004, 10:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 14 2004, 05:15 PM
Sith, Ellen's career slipped, when she said she was gay! Not the other way around. Look at her career before her annoucment. Anne Heche is just crazy.
Mann is right, her leaving of her closet almost ruined her career.

Most overated movies : Spiderman, Daredevil and Gladiator.

I almost typed the LOTR movies , they are good but not among the 100 best movies. [/b][/quote]
blasphamy!

[Lord Rocha]

Hey, hey, I never said they are horrible. I just said they are not the brightest stars in the sky. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 14 2004, 10:50 PM
Hey, hey, I never said they are horrible. I just said they are not the brightest stars in the sky. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
hey i know it cool, its a just a matter of opinion! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Lord Rocha]

I have another one !

*forgets the move*

Ahhh !
The Matrix Revolutions (dissapointing ending, the original one rocked), Dr. Seuss, boring !

[Justin]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 15 2004, 02:22 AM
i know why bruce almighty made money and pirates... cause those movies sucked.
They didn't suck, you just didn't like them. I think they're great, most people I talk to think they're great.

Do you work in a video store? If so, which one?

[Justin]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 15 2004, 03:45 AM
Most overated movies : Spiderman, Daredevil and Gladiator.
In my opinion, Gladiator is one of the greatest films of all time. The acting is superb, the story is compelling, and the production design and cinematography are fantastic. Just because you personally don't like it doesn't make it a bad movie.

[The Prism]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 14 2004, 10:55 PM
I have another one !

*forgets the move*

Ahhh !
The Matrix Revolutions (dissapointing ending, the original one rocked), Dr. Seuss, boring !
Why do people keep saying that this movie is overrated? Everyone but me seems to hate this movie! Last time I checked, that was the opposite of overrated.

[brookie]

Originally posted by Justin+Jan 14 2004, 11:05 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ Jan 14 2004, 11:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 02:22 AM
i know why bruce almighty made money and pirates... cause those movies sucked.
They didn't suck, you just didn't like them. I think they're great, most people I talk to think they're great.

Do you work in a video store? If so, which one? [/b][/quote]
nah see that just my opinion see? i thought they sucked, i work in a independent video store called town video style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 14 2004, 09:24 PM
finding nemo was freakin funny and ellen did make the movie, IMO, she is funny as s*it, have you even seen her stand up? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif
you do realize that she probably didnt write most of her lines in that movie or came up with the jokes. I'm sure she had some of the jokes in it, but not many. Kinda like in the Simpsons, dont give all the credit to the actors, give credit to the writers

[bluemilk]

Cold Mountain <----- Most overrated movie of 2003

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 14 2004, 11:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 14 2004, 11:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 14 2004, 09:24 PM
finding nemo was freakin funny and ellen did make the movie, IMO, she is funny as s*it, have you even seen her stand up? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif
you do realize that she probably didnt write most of her lines in that movie or came up with the jokes. I'm sure she had some of the jokes in it, but not many. Kinda like in the Simpsons, dont give all the credit to the actors, give credit to the writers [/b][/quote]
umm have YOU seen any of her STANDUP?

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha+Jan 14 2004, 10:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lord Rocha @ Jan 14 2004, 10:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 14 2004, 05:15 PM
Sith, Ellen's career slipped, when she said she was gay! Not the other way around. Look at her career before her annoucment. Anne Heche is just crazy.
Mann is right, her leaving of her closet almost ruined her career. [/b][/quote]
Well heres how it plays, it swings both ways. She tried making herself more popular and getting attention by saying she is gay and it blew up in her face cause no one wanted to hear about it. Now she is trying the opposite approach where the only way to draw attention to yourself is thru controversy, which is her sexuality. yea shes funny, but so are TONS of other comedians.

and as for her making the movie, i dont believe animated movies should count as much. everything is behind the scenes

[brookie]

Originally posted by bluemilk@Jan 14 2004, 11:27 PM
Cold Mountain <----- Most overrated movie of 2003
was that movie any good bluemilk?

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 14 2004, 11:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 14 2004, 11:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 14 2004, 10:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 14 2004, 05:15 PM
Sith, Ellen's career slipped, when she said she was gay! Not the other way around. Look at her career before her annoucment. Anne Heche is just crazy.
Mann is right, her leaving of her closet almost ruined her career.
Well heres how it plays, it swings both ways. She tried making herself more popular and getting attention by saying she is gay and it blew up in her face cause no one wanted to hear about it. Now she is trying the opposite approach where the only way to draw attention to yourself is thru controversy, which is her sexuality. yea shes funny, but so are TONS of other comedians.

and as for her making the movie, i dont believe animated movies should count as much. everything is behind the scenes [/b][/quote]
do you KNOW her? then you'll never truly know her reasons for comming out.

now....

[Agent Sith]

well alot of celebs do it to get attention. and no i dont know her but i do know alot about psychology and how the mind works.

back on topic, AGAIN, i heard that Cold Mountain is very overrated. therefore, it will win ALOT of Oscars

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 11:36 PM
well alot of celebs do it to get attention. and no i dont know her but i do know alot about psychology and how the mind works.

back on topic, AGAIN, i heard that Cold Mountain is very overrated. therefore, it will win ALOT of Oscars
hahhaa yeah! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[Whitesaber]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif I think this thread is overrated... heck, I think I'm overrated. I'm leaving now. Bye bye.

[brookie]

this thread rules!

[Whitesaber]

Hey, I was joking. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Move along. Move along.

*Watches with slight anticipation*

[brookie]

me too silly pants! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by brookie+Jan 14 2004, 09:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brookie @ Jan 14 2004, 09:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-bluemilk@Jan 14 2004, 11:27 PM
Cold Mountain <----- Most overrated movie of 2003
was that movie any good bluemilk? [/b][/quote]
no not really.. I guess if you're the type that's easily impressed then you'd enjoy it. Basically it's just an Oscar *****, looking for awards. It's full of women crying and men yelling and a whole roster of "A list" actors. Basically every ingredient you need to win an Academy awards.

It's unoriginal, overrrated garbage.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 14 2004, 11:44 PM
this thread rules!
THANKS BROOKIE style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

it does rule. throw out some more overrated movies.

ENGLISH PATIENT

[brookie]

ah i liked that movie!

beautiful mind overratted!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 14 2004, 07:45 PM
Most overated movies : Spiderman, Daredevil and Gladiator.
Daredevil may be a crappy movie, but it's anything but overrated, more like universally loathed.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by TK-007+Jan 14 2004, 05:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Jan 14 2004, 05:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Sith@Jan 14 2004, 10:57 AM
Same goes for Return of the King, cause most trilogies decline in sales but I think this one is due to people jumping on the ban-wagon
A look at the box office for the Star Wars Saga, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, James Bond, and even The Matrix, will show that later installments in those series made more money than the original. The Two Towers made more than The Fellowship of the Ring, so in the case of The Return of the King this should come as no surprise. [/b][/quote]
Plus, I think with LOTR, it kept developing fans as the movies came out into theaters and DVD. Plus, I think the year gap kept the interest and popularity. It was a great idea to film and release them the way they did.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by DblDwn+Jan 13 2004, 08:54 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DblDwn @ Jan 13 2004, 08:54 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-P-Ray@Jan 12 2004, 05:00 PM
and that awful movie with Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif What the heck was that all about?
As Good As It Gets is still one that I watch over and over again. Great acting and a phenomenal script plus you've got Jack in top form.

[/b][/quote]
I'm glad you like it. It must be just me because I didn't get it. I thought the movie was horrible.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by P-Ray@Jan 15 2004, 05:41 AM
It was a great idea to film and release them the way they did.
Yes it was. Kudos to the execs at New Line, it was entirely there idea,and in fact if not for them Pete would either have not made the films, or he would've made a very different two film version of the story. A very smart decision New Line made. It was a huge gamble they were taking, had it failed it would've been the end for them.

[brookie]

ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb

[Mann]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie.

[brookie]

ewwwwwww, tell me what was sooo smart about it?

[Mann]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:21 PM
ewwwwwww, tell me what was sooo smart about it?
You saw the same movie right? Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce...Kevin Spacey? Amazing Oscar winning movie, adapted from one of the most acclaimed novels of about corruption of all time.

You remember the interrogation scene with the three different witnesses? OH MY GOD THAT WAS OUTSTANDING!

[brookie]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 15 2004, 04:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 15 2004, 04:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie. [/b][/quote]
wha!!!????
i'd say seven was the smartest cop movie.wait..no not the smartest..the coolest....

ohh my name kim basinger....i suck.... give me an oscar....

[Trilogist]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 15 2004, 03:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 15 2004, 03:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie. [/b][/quote]
I agree with you Mann, this movie was absolutely brilliant. Full of twists and turns, and excellent characters. I can't remember everybody's names but Kevin Spacey, Russell Crowe and whoever played Exley did fantastic jobs. And James Cromwell, ironically enough, played a very good villain in his crooked cop role.

[brookie]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:21 PM
ewwwwwww, tell me what was sooo smart about it?
You saw the same movie right? Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce...Kevin Spacey? Amazing Oscar winning movie, adapted from one of the most acclaimed novels of about corruption of all time.

You remember the interrogation scene with the three different witnesses? OH MY GOD THAT WAS OUTSTANDING! [/b][/quote]
ohh yes the movie...was def a life changing experience, oh my! before i saw this movie i was lost in life but the best actor in the worl russell crowe taught me that life is worth living.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif hahahhahahahahah

[brookie]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:21 PM
ewwwwwww, tell me what was sooo smart about it?
You saw the same movie right? Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce...Kevin Spacey? Amazing Oscar winning movie, adapted from one of the most acclaimed novels of about corruption of all time.

You remember the interrogation scene with the three different witnesses? OH MY GOD THAT WAS OUTSTANDING! [/b][/quote]
the oscars dont mean jack.....

[Mann]

Originally posted by brookie+Jan 15 2004, 09:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brookie @ Jan 15 2004, 09:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:21 PM
ewwwwwww, tell me what was sooo smart about it?
You saw the same movie right? Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce...Kevin Spacey? Amazing Oscar winning movie, adapted from one of the most acclaimed novels of about corruption of all time.

You remember the interrogation scene with the three different witnesses? OH MY GOD THAT WAS OUTSTANDING!
ohh yes the movie...was def a life changing experience, oh my! before i saw this movie i was lost in life but the best actor in the worl russell crowe taught me that life is worth living.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif hahahhahahahahah [/b][/quote]
Brookie, your attitude toward this movie makes me wonder of your taste in movies. Honestly, they don't get any better than this. And granted you don't have to have a life changing experience to apprectiate a movie.

Oscars, Critics, movie fans around the world...gee, they don't mean jack.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Trilogist+Jan 15 2004, 09:27 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Trilogist @ Jan 15 2004, 09:27 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jan 15 2004, 03:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie.
I agree with you Mann, this movie was absolutely brilliant. Full of twists and turns, and excellent characters. I can't remember everybody's names but Kevin Spacey, Russell Crowe and whoever played Exley did fantastic jobs. And James Cromwell, ironically enough, played a very good villain in his crooked cop role. [/b][/quote]
Oh you better believe it is. Wonderful acting, directing, writings and just so one par with the effect it tried to acheive: Film Noir revised and reimagined.

[brookie]

you mean to tell me that oscars actually mean something? look i personally dont think that just because a movie gets an oscar that means its good, i also dont listen to the critics, i for one would be amazed, to think that a movie buff such as yourself would listen to the critics and put so much faith in the academy, i'm sure you dont, cause in my opinion that just not very smart,
my movie tastes are my own, and i know many other people who think that LA confidential was crap and its just opinion, you can think that my movies taste is crap, i really dont care. and its ok if you think that it was a great movie, becasue i respect your opinion,
sooo
anywhooo......

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 15 2004, 04:33 PM
Brookie, your attitude toward this movie makes me wonder of your taste in movies. Honestly, they don't get any better than this. And granted you don't have to have a life changing experience to apprectiate a movie.

Oscars, Critics, movie fans around the world...gee, they don't mean jack.
I agree with Brookie. L.A. Confidential wasn't the greatest it was, ok. I don't think you should tell anyone who has what tastes in movies. Just because you like something so much and someone else doesn't. So get off you high horse, Mann. Seriously.

And that's right, critics or just cause it won an Oscar don't mean anything. It means critics liked it. Not all Oscar winners are great, sorry. But they just aren't. Not that I don't respect the ones involved or anything. That is my view.

[brookie]

^ ahhhh an enlightened individual like myself! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 15 2004, 01:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 15 2004, 01:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie. [/b][/quote]
I think that's going a bit overboard. L.A. Confidential was a very good film, it was anything but a dumb movie, it does not belong in a list of most overrated films as it's not getting massive amounts of undeserved love ( an example of a film like that would be Pulp Fiction), and it was hardly the most intelligent cop movie ever made.

And Brookie, if you totally hated this film, I find it hard to imagine you having much love for the genre at all. And that's pretty sad, cause some of the finest films ever made are Film Noir, and this film was a prime example of that, not as good as The Maltese Falcon, or Orson Welles' Touch of Evil and The Third Man, but it's a good film none the less, with a great cast, and a great screenplay based off a good story, regardless of how you feel about it.

[brookie]

Originally posted by TK-007+Jan 15 2004, 07:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Jan 15 2004, 07:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jan 15 2004, 01:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:15 PM
ah! i got one
LA confidental! man that movie was dumb
No, LA Confidential is the most intelligent cop movie ever made. Absolutely the most underrrated movie of 1997. Titanic robbed this movie.
I think that's going a bit overboard. L.A. Confidential was a very good film, it was anything but a dumb movie, it does not belong in a list of most overrated films as it's not getting massive amounts of undeserved love ( an example of a film like that would be Pulp Fiction), and it was hardly the most intelligent cop movie ever made.

And Brookie, if you totally hated this film, I find it hard to imagine you having much love for the genre at all. And that's pretty sad, cause some of the finest films ever made are Film Noir, and this film was a prime example of that, not as good as The Maltese Falcon, or Orson Welles' Touch of Evil and The Third Man, but it's a good film none the less, with a great cast, and a great screenplay based off a good story, regardless of how you feel about it. [/b][/quote]
oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh the movie still sux, i enjoy the third man, and shoot the piano player
but...... if you liked La confidental, its sooo sad style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif look dude its all opinoin you can think that my tastes are sad but as ive said before i dont care

but...

[Darth Vegas]

Wait, you like Film Noir, but hate L.A. Confidential? Weird just weird... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/notify.gif

Love the smiling' Jesus. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

EDIT: Upon further investigation I have found that L.A. Confidential is indeed overrated, IMDB lists it as #45 on there all-time 250 greatest movies list. But it's still a pretty good flick...

[Justin]

Brookie, do you drink a lot of coke?

[brookie]

Originally posted by Justin@Jan 16 2004, 12:44 AM
Brookie, do you drink a lot of coke?
ahh dont drink soda.. and tk- youre a cool guy! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[brookie]

Originally posted by Justin@Jan 16 2004, 12:44 AM
Brookie, do you drink a lot of coke?
why do you say?

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 15 2004, 09:50 PM
and tk- youre a cool guy! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
Well thank you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

And she doesn't drink coke, she sniffs it Justin. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[brookie]

no sniffy

[Darth Vegas]

Add LXG to this list. If one person liked this, it's overrated.

[brookie]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jan 16 2004, 01:48 AM
Add LXG to this list. If one person liked this, it's overrated.
what is LXG?

[Mann]

League of Extraodrinary Gentlemen, even though Extraordinary doesn't start with an X, but then its LEG, not real appealing.

[brookie]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 16 2004, 02:19 AM
League of Extraodrinary Gentlemen, even though Extraordinary doesn't start with an X, but then its LEG, not real appealing.
ohh you know im a fan of the comis, not at all like the movie, but it wasnt so bad. you think it was overratted? i didnt think so

[Darth Vegas]

Brookie take a look at the second post in the underrated movies thread.

[Mann]

Originally posted by brookie+Jan 16 2004, 07:21 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brookie @ Jan 16 2004, 07:21 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 16 2004, 02:19 AM
League of Extraodrinary Gentlemen, even though Extraordinary doesn't start with an X, but then its LEG, not real appealing.
ohh you know im a fan of the comis, not at all like the movie, but it wasnt so bad. you think it was overratted? i didnt think so [/b][/quote]
If anyone thought this movie was good or worth seeing, it overrated. I agree with bond.

[brookie]

no no i mean you think people actually thought it was going to be good? peoples stupidity amazes me...

[Mann]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 16 2004, 07:28 AM
no no i mean you think people actually thought it was going to be good? peoples stupidity amazes me...
well received comic book...Sean Connery Produced and Starred in it...Shane West is the up and coming heatthrob...I can see how they thought it was going to be good.

[Whitesaber]

Once they saw/heard that Connery was going to be punching and fighting in it, everyone should've known it wasn't going to be all that great.

[Justin]

I thought it was ok. You kind of have to turn your brain off when you're watching it though, because it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Whitesaber]

Considering my brain is constantly within that state, Justin, I totally enjoyed LXG.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 16 2004, 04:49 PM
Once they saw/heard that Connery was going to be punching and fighting in it, everyone should've known it wasn't going to be all that great.
ahem...The Last Crusade anyone?

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 16 2004, 03:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 16 2004, 03:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Jan 16 2004, 04:49 PM
Once they saw/heard that Connery was going to be punching and fighting in it, everyone should've known it wasn't going to be all that great.
ahem...The Last Crusade anyone? [/b][/quote]
Oh. I wasn't aware Connery fought in that movie. As I recall, he went running at a flock of birds, making strange sounds and flashing his umbrella.

Unless you caught a special edition of the movie of which I missed.

[Greedo Boy]

I thought it was fun...

[Whitesaber]

Before anyone misunderstands me, I love The Last Crusade. I love it to death. My point was if someone as old as Connery is fighting in a movie, especially a comic book movie, that gives you a hint into the greatness of the movie... Granted, it could've been pulled off and been a great great movie. The fact is, it wasn't handled skillfully.

[Greedo Boy]

What does the Last Crusade have to do with L<span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">X</span>G?

Aside from the fact that Sean Connery's in it...

[Whitesaber]

Ask Mann... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

[Greedo Boy]

I see.

It seems I failed to read the posts before mine, somehow I missed them... but I don't know how.

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[Mann]

Originally posted by Whitesaber+Jan 16 2004, 09:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Whitesaber @ Jan 16 2004, 09:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jan 16 2004, 03:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Jan 16 2004, 04:49 PM
Once they saw/heard that Connery was going to be punching and fighting in it, everyone should've known it wasn't going to be all that great.
ahem...The Last Crusade anyone?
Oh. I wasn't aware Connery fought in that movie. As I recall, he went running at a flock of birds, making strange sounds and flashing his umbrella.

Unless you caught a special edition of the movie of which I missed. [/b][/quote]
I seem to remember Connery having a little scuffle in the Tank of the movie with the nazi Soldier.

Oh and then there's the Untouchables...Not to mention the James Bond movies in which connery fights.

[Saranac]

Too bad only the first three are good style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif , "Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger"

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 16 2004, 05:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 16 2004, 05:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> I seem to remember Connery having a little scuffle in the Tank of the movie with the nazi Soldier.

Oh and then there's the Untouchables...Not to mention the James Bond movies in which connery fights. [/b]
With a pen, Mann. He used a pen to shoot ink into a Nazi's eyes. Yeah, very physical.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh and then there's the Untouchables...Not to mention the James Bond movies in which connery fights[/b][/quote]

Mann Mann Mann... read and read closely:

Originally posted by Whitesaber+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Whitesaber)</div><div class='quotemain'>Before anyone misunderstands me, I love The Last Crusade. I love it to death. My point was if someone as old as Connery is fighting in a movie, especially a comic book movie, that gives you a hint into the greatness of the movie... Granted, it could've been pulled off and been a great great movie. The fact is, it wasn't handled skillfully. [/b]

Did you see? Let me quote the part I want you to hear, just in case you missed it:

<!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber's REAL statement@
My point was if someone as old as Connery is fighting in a movie[/quote]

Just for emphasis, in case you missed it again:

<!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber
someone as <span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">old</span> as Connery[/quote]

I think I've made my point clear.

Another movie that was and is overrated: Peter Pan style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif *Awaits Trilo's answer*

[Trilogist]

How old is Connery now, 80? I don't think he was eligible for AARP when he was shooting and roundhousing the bad spies as James Bond, but then again, you're the movie expert so I guess that's the way it is. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

I did find the story idea interesting, but I never watched the film. I happen to like those 19th century heroes. It had potential.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Saranac@Jan 16 2004, 04:08 PM
Too bad only the first three are good style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif , "Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger"
I will never understand why people say this. I geuss it's just because they came first. I recently rewatched them and rewatched them again and I have to say that Bond got better after Connery. Not because Connery was bad or anything, but there was a particular cheesiness to the early Bond movies, namely because of villians like the Old Lady with the knife coming out of her shoe, Odd Job (who wasn't a particularly bad villian, but the hat throwing got a little old after a while), and the dude masquerading as a women at the start of Goldfinger, the incredibly cheesy death of Goldfinger, Goldfinger's plan of polluting our nations gold to make his gold worth more doesn't help to make Goldfinger a better Bond film either.

Connery's Bond films are overrated, except Diamonds are Forever of course.

[Agent Sith]

Diamonds are Forever IS TERRIBLE!!! i hate that movie. and Bond, the early Bond films were good for their time. dude, they are 40 years OLD!!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 16 2004, 07:03 PM
Diamonds are Forever IS TERRIBLE!!! i hate that movie.
The idea of gay assassins ina Bond movie is kinda funny though, and you gotta laugh at that scene when Bond is attacked by the two chicks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>and Bond, the early Bond films were good for their time.* dude, they are 40 years OLD!![/b][/quote]

Like duh! But people still keep saying that only the early ones were any good, and looking back I gotta say that they were very cheesy, they're still entertaining though.

My personnal favorite Bond flick is Goldeneye.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jan 16 2004, 10:08 PM
My personnal favorite Bond flick is Goldeneye.
HOLY $H*T!!! I'm agreeing with TK-007!!!! I totally agree. its got it all and the action is the best and the girls are hot and Pierce is awesome and smooth and the jokes are jusssssst right.

I think Pierce's best Bond movie is Goldeneye.
I think Connery's best Bond movie is Goldfinger.
I think Moore's best Bond movie is The Spy Who Loved Me.
I think Dalton's best Bond movie is The Living Daylights.
and the other guy doesnt count. haha

Each of those four movies are amazing no matter what year they were made or who the actor was for Bond. once again people.......its alllllll about the WRITING!!! not action or special fx or sexy girls or cool gadgets or whatever.

Also TK-007, you have to remember that people love Connery cause he is the first. I know TONS of people that feel this way and I dont agree with them. I think Moore had the best movies. But you gotta remember that people say the same about Star Wars, or Indiana Jones movies or Rocky movies or Alien movies. Its just cause its the first and the freshest idea. thats all

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jan 16 2004, 07:08 PM
My personnal favorite Bond flick is Goldeneye.
Same here, I have seen about 6 or 7 Bond movies and that is the most interesting one.

[Lord Rocha]

I have 2 movies that were overrated, well one of them wasn't.

Freaky Friday, so overrated, many critics said it was such a good flick and it was dissapointing to the end, not even Jamie Lee Curtis can save this movie.

Looney Tunes Back in action, horrible, those were the most dissapointing kids I have ever seen....the ones that left the movie theater after watching the movie.

[Darth Vegas]

Looney Tunes Back in Action was overrated? I don't recall anyone expecting that to be good, or hearing from anyone who saw it that it was good.

[Lord Rocha]

I know, I had to vent out, it was horrible.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 16 2004, 07:16 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 16 2004, 07:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-TK-007@Jan 16 2004, 10:08 PM
My personnal favorite Bond flick is Goldeneye.
HOLY $H*T!!! I'm agreeing with TK-007!!!! I totally agree. its got it all and the action is the best and the girls are hot and Pierce is awesome and smooth and the jokes are jusssssst right. [/b][/quote]
And don't forget Sean Bean, The man is just an awesome actor, and winner of the F*ck Halle Berry Award (A.K.A. Bond character most deserving of a spin-off). style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think Connery's best Bond movie is Goldfinger.[/b][/quote]
I personnally enjoyed Thunderball more than it, but Goldfinger has the Pussy Galore line (which was a great moment).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think Moore's best Bond movie is The Spy Who Loved Me.[/b][/quote]

It's a good movie, I like it about as much as The man with the Golden Gun. But for Morre's best, I'd have to go with Live and Let Die.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think Dalton's best Bond movie is The Living Daylights.[/b][/quote]

Well he made one good one (and they actually wanted Pierce Brosnan to replace Roger Moore), so that's a given.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Also TK-007, you have to remember that people love Connery cause he is the first. I know TONS of people that feel this way and I dont agree with them. I think Moore had the best movies. But you gotta remember that people say the same about Star Wars, or Indiana Jones movies or Rocky movies or Alien movies. Its just cause its the first and the freshest idea. thats all [/b][/quote]

Well yeah, I understand perfectly well why they say it, it's really shortsighted, so many people feel that way though. Pity.

[brookie]

ive never got into the james bond movies style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif

[Mann]

Connery Bond movies may seem cheesy, but like its been said that was what they were like for their time. Connery is also much much more charismatic than Orger Moore ever was. I think Brosnan in GoldenEy was able to capture Connery's idea of Bond, which in someways should be considered the guidelines for the other films.

Laso Trilogists, Never Say Never Again was made in 1983. Though its not officially called a Bond film in the series due to the studio change, it featured Connery in the gray and he was about 53 in that film. Just a note, alot of people don't like Never Say Never again, saying Connery was too old to be able to pick up the hot Kim Basinger (If you haven't any respect for Bond Films, see it just because Basinger is like uber-hot!), but I think NSNA had some great qualities. For one, It had one the the best villians, Klaus Maria Brandauer who took on a different approach to the Goldfinger Bond Villian. And the plot is very much what gave way to other Bond films like GoldenEye.

Roger Moore didn't do it for me. I find him the least charismatic and too still as Bond. He did the most, but besides Moonraker, I dislike alot of his films. also, you know you've been stuck with a charicature when you do a movie as yourself playing a character...I can't remember the movie, but Roger Moore was a main character saying: I'm Roger moore! Its depressing, and I remember the movie sucking.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 17 2004, 01:55 AM
Roger Moore didn't do it for me. I find him the least charismatic and too still as Bond. He did the most, but besides Moonraker, I dislike alot of his films. also, you know you've been stuck with a charicature when you do a movie as yourself playing a character...I can't remember the movie, but Roger Moore was a main character saying: I'm Roger moore! Its depressing, and I remember the movie sucking.
wow, i use to have respect for your movie knowledge. but not anymore now that you actually think MOONRAKER is a decent flick. its the cheesiest movie of Moores and the plot line is terrible and the SFX were probably outdated when it was released and the idea of bringing back Jaws is unoriginal and especially to make him fall in love. not to pick on you mann, but most will agree that Moonraker is terrible. but you do have the right to your own opinion

[Mann]

Well it is how it is. a study in the inflation of the Bond films that I saw once placed that Moonraker made the most money of all the Bond films when measured against each other. Also the effects for the time were considered amazing.

And I don't think that it was called a bad movie if they put it in a video game as a fun thing for fans. Bond movies have loads of fans, and Moonraker is well remembered by them.

little bit to note, the success of Star wars led to the early production of this installment.

[RollaFett]

Overrated movies for me include:
-The English Patient
-The Rock
-Independence Day
-Men In Black
There are others, just can't think of any right now. I'll return.....

[Darth Vegas]

Moonraker is not the best Bond flick, but it definitely isn't the worst.

A good example of a Roger Moore Bond Flick: Live and Let Die

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Jan 17 2004, 10:03 PM
-Independence Day
-Men In Black

I agree, right.

[Agent Sith]

just to comment on Titantic or other big time movies. It just shows that these are the best and most popular movies out there. They get the most money in the box office and win the most Oscars. Yea I didnt care for Gladiator, but tons of people did and so did the Academy. Therefore, majority rules. Sure, I like some cheesy movies and I think they are the best when 99% of the population hates them and thats just my opinion. But you have to admit that Titantic or Gone with the Wind or ET or Star Wars should be considered the most popular movies out there whether or not you like them.

[Greedo Boy]

For a Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Not enough of the people I know know of these movies...

[Phil Tinajero]

Even though I love these films, I have to say Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums, just because people think they're so superior to other films. I get sick of hearing "oh, I love that movie" from everyone I bring them up to.

[Phil Tinajero]

Annie Hall, too. Good movie, but definetely not Woody Allen's best. And Pulp Fiction.

[Seanakin]

Annie Hall beat out SW for Best Picture. May it rot in HELL. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

(Hahahaha J/K.)

Actually, Gandalf, I concur with you about avoiding films that just everyone seems to like. (With a few exceptions.)

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by Seanakin@Jan 18 2004, 11:36 PM
Actually, Gandalf, I concur with you about avoiding films that just everyone seems to like. (With a few exceptions.)
That's usally how I live my fanboy life. Good to know I'm not alone.

[Seanakin]

With many such films, I only finally accept them once all the hype has faded and it STILL looks good.

[Agent Sith]

yea how did SW not get best picture or best director?

what is Annie Hall about and did it get best director too?

[Phil Tinajero]

Well, it pains me to see LOTR and SW with an audience and see so many punk junior high kids there (no offense to anyone in junior high).

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 18 2004, 11:57 PM
yea how did SW not get best picture or best director?

what is Annie Hall about and did it get best director too?
Annie Hall is a pretty good film directed by Woody Allen. It won both Best Picture and Best Director. I mean, it's good but better than SW? Nope.

[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Greedo Boy@Jan 18 2004, 06:29 PM
For a Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Not enough of the people I know know of these movies...
I seem to have posted this in the wrong thread...

[Seanakin]

Purely reflective of the tastes and preferences of the Academy on that one.

Plus, it's hard for any kind of so-called fantasy film to win in those categories.

[Agent Sith]

cough, Return of the King, cough

[brookie]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 19 2004, 12:29 AM
cough, Return of the King, cough
OMG!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif :withstupid: ^^^

[Greedo Boy]

<span style="color:red"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">BLASPHEMY!!</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 19 2004, 04:57 AM
yea how did SW not get best picture or best director?

what is Annie Hall about and did it get best director too?
Depends on how you look at it. I don't like Annie Hall particularly because its just plotless, mindless talking to me. Very funny in some parts, but ultimately nothing worth note. It won four Oscars, all major: Picture, Director, screenplay and Actress.

Odd parallell, SW was the most popular nominee, along with FOTR in the same year as A Beautiful Mind. SW was hyped to be the first fantasy as Star Wars was. A Beautiful Mind revolves around the relationship of its two lead characters, jut like Annie Hall. Come Oscar night, FOTR had one acting nod, like Star Wars in the Same category. SW and FOTR won only a handful of technical awards. Annie Hall and ABM won the Top Honors, three of which competing with Star Wars and FOTR respectively (Picture, Director and Screenplay, in 1978 it was original, in 2002 it was adapted) And then ABM won its fourth award for its main female character (diane Keaton in Annie Hall and Jennifer Connelly in ABM) its odd.

[Agent Sith]

i hate the Academy. but like i said either in this thread or another one, Oscars and Box Office numbers show which movies are the most popular. its the only real gauge.

oh and about a BIG overrated movie, how about: Chicago

[Mann]

On chicago.

I recently saw the show, in fact yesterday, with Patrick Swayze (he can't sing very well but he can dance like he did 20 years ago!)

the Film is better than the stage show. It takes all the songs and improves on them and makes it a coherant story. the one things the didn't capatlize on was Mary Sunshine, and if you know the show, you get my drift.

Other than that, the film is better than most musicals are. I think that it is slightly overrated in its love, but honestly I do love the film, one of the best of 2002. BUT, the Oscars gave Catherine Zeta Jones the Oscar for supporting actress. No way in hell is she supporting ANYONE in that film. She is a leading role, and should have been nominated as such.

[Obidobi]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't remember the movie, but Roger Moore was a main character saying: I'm Roger moore! Its depressing, and I remember the movie sucking.
[/b][/quote]
I guess that was "Cannonball 1" or something...

[Javen]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 19 2004, 01:41 PM
oh and about a BIG overrated movie, how about: Chicago
a big huge ageement on that. It is obviuosly the worst of 2002, not the best. And Cathrine Zeta won because of a relationship of another overrated person. Michael Douglas.

[brookie]

i never saw chicago thank god.
i thought pirates was a real bad movie, of course it is popcorn fluff, so i took it for what it was worth, but i still didnt find it entertaining

[Tovor]

I thought Pirates of the Caribean was overrated. #1 because I always forget how to spell "Caribean", and #2 because I fell asleep in the middle of it. Though I fell asleep during Master and Commander, ROTK, TPM the 10th time I saw it (and the 12th time, the 13th, the 16th, the 21st, ), and several other films that I thought were very good, so it doesn't say very much.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by brookie@Jan 19 2004, 10:29 PM
i never saw chicago thank god.
i thought pirates was a real bad movie, of course it is popcorn fluff, so i took it for what it was worth, but i still didnt find it entertaining
i thought Pirates was too long. but the only reason i dont like it is because their gonna do a trilogy. why does every good movie get a sequel?! grrr.

and Tover, i dont believe you that you fell asleep in a movie theater. i never believe people when they say that. its just a figure of speech

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 19 2004, 08:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 19 2004, 08:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 19 2004, 10:29 PM
i never saw chicago thank god.
i thought pirates was a real bad movie, of course it is popcorn fluff, so i took it for what it was worth, but i still didnt find it entertaining
i thought Pirates was too long. but the only reason i dont like it is because their gonna do a trilogy. why does every good movie get a sequel?! grrr. [/b][/quote]
A sequel !? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif

Anyway, I prefer the Pirates of the Carribean ride on Disneyland than the movie. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hmmm.gif

[Tovor]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 19 2004, 11:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 19 2004, 11:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Jan 19 2004, 10:29 PM
i never saw chicago thank god.
i thought pirates was a real bad movie, of course it is popcorn fluff, so i took it for what it was worth, but i still didnt find it entertaining
i thought Pirates was too long. but the only reason i dont like it is because their gonna do a trilogy. why does every good movie get a sequel?! grrr.

and Tover, i dont believe you that you fell asleep in a movie theater. i never believe people when they say that. its just a figure of speech [/b][/quote]
There's 2 O's on Tovor, my friend, just figured I'd remind you. Everybody seems to get that wrong, I don't know why. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

But yes, believe it or not, it did and does happen. I stay up very late very often and I have to wake early for work. I am overworked and overstressed at work and it isn't until I am in a dark theatre that my exhaustion overcomes me. I fell asleep during T3 the first time I saw it, and during T2 as well about the 3rd time I saw it. I fell asleep during a whole bunch of other movies too, but I can't remember which ones. Oh, ST:Nemesis. I have no clue what that flick was about, having nodded off shortly after it began. But in that case it was dull from the start so that helped.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 19 2004, 01:41 PM
i hate the Academy. but like i said either in this thread or another one, Oscars and Box Office numbers show which movies are the most popular. its the only real gauge.

oh and about a BIG overrated movie, how about: Chicago
I agree. I personally couldn't understand why "American Beauty" won. I hated that movie and think it is way overrated.

[cj790]

Ok, I'm probably going to get a lot of anger for this one, but:

The Matrix.

It's an ok fight film, but hardly original It parallel-plotted its way through Dark City, which I think is a much stronger picture, had pretty weak dialogue, and starred Keanu 'Woah Dude' as a hero style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif
Enjoyable, but not one of the best...


Also Gladiator. Really disappointed by that one. Seen it a million times before style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Jjm3233]

The Hours - the acting is not bad, but its so long and pretentious. Wish I could have gone to sleep.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Jjm3233@Jan 20 2004, 03:55 PM
The Hours - the acting is not bad, but its so long and pretentious. Wish I could have gone to sleep.
I did fall asleep. The movie is just too boring for its own good. The cast is wasted.

[RollaFett]

I agree that 'A Beautiful Mind' and 'Pirates of the Caribbean' were overrated.
Some others:
- 'In the Bedroom'
- 'Finding Nemo'
- 'The Italian Job'

[Agent Sith]

Italian Job was awesome movie even for a remake. And even though it made about 100 mil, it was not overrated. It made that much cause of Marky Mark style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Phil Tinajero]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif This coming from the guy who thought ROTK was overrated.

[hermit31]

Originally posted by Lord Rocha@Jan 19 2004, 09:52 PM
Anyway, I prefer the Pirates of the Carribean ride on Disneyland than the movie.* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hmmm.gif


same here.

[Saranac]

Anyone seen that Tover guy lately style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@Jan