Obi-Wan's master

[nunzio]

"You will go to the Dagobah system. There, you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed me."

But didn't Qui-Gonn instruct Obi-Wan? Or are we to surmise that he was referring to the potty training equivalent that Yoda was giving the younglings in CLONES?

Also, do you think that the remote seeker Ben used to train Luke belonged to Han Solo (which is what the novel says), or did he bring it with him from that box of goodies in his hovel? They could have stopped back at Ben's place after the jawa pyre on their way to Mos Eisley so that he could pick up some more things.

I don't see how that seeker ball would help Han Solo at all. You can't shoot it with a blaster or else it's finished. And it seems to be suited specifically for activation when a lightsaber is ignited and sleeping when the blade shuts off.

[DanielSkywalker]

[QUOTE]are we to surmize that he was referring to the potty training equivilant that yoda was giving the younglings in CLONES?

Yeah, I think so, Nunzio. *Mr. Lucas wanted Obi-Wan to be the padawan of Qui-Gon in TPM, so he included the little bit about Yoda training the Padawans until they're about 9 or 10 so that the quote from ESB that you included above would not be untrue. *So, as it turns out, Obi-Wan was instructed by Yoda.

As for the remote, I too have wondered the same thing.

[Vyndim]

GL doesn't exactly do everything "by the books." So to answer the remote question, No I don't think the remote seeker was Han's. I believe it was Obi-Wan's and he took it with him to help train Luke. Like you said before, what would be the point of Han owning such a device? I think this supports the idea of it belonging to Obi-Wan.

[Badass Leia]

I think it is Obi-wan's. Han would have no reason at all to carry around that thing.

It makes sense about Yoda when he was working with the younger padawans. Yoda instructs all of them at one time I do believe. Then they get a Master, in this case was Qui-Gon who took Obi-wan as his padawan to train.

My personal opinion ;)

[sKyWAlkeR4890]

qui-gon was only his master until he died.

[Luthien]

Indeed...like the posters before me have said, Yoda was Obi-wan's FIRST master...because it seems he gives ALL the padawans their first training, so he did train Obi-wan. So did Qui-Gon. It's that simple...there was no need for Obi-wan to even MENTION that he had had other masters too...not when Luke was in such bad shape.

[tunafishman]

Okay, so we pretty much all agree Yoda trained Obi-wan early on. *But here's a question (although maybe its just not obvious to me :dontgetit:):
When in his training is Obi-wan talking about when he tries to convince Yoda to train Luke by saying "So was I" and "Was I any different"?

Do you think Obi-wan was just a trouble-maker at Jedi Elementary, or is he talking more about his time with Qui-gon?

I think he's talking about his time with Qui-gon because he was more like Luke then and then when he would have been with Yoda.

[DanielSkywalker]

Good point, tunafishman. I think that we should give Mr. Lucas the credit he deserves. i believe that when all six films are done, they will all flow as one huge film. It's really neat to see things in the prequals that allude to things in the original trilogy.

[catwmnjedi]

OK, being the Obi-Wan fan that I am, I've read all my daughter's Jedi Apprentice books. I was also interested in Obi-Wan's past.

In that series, Obi-Wan is trained in classes like the one in AOTC until he's 12. According to those books, a young Jedi must be chosen by a master for padawanship by his/her 13th birthday to continue the Jedi Knight path. Obi-Wan was not chosen earlier even though he's skilled and one of Yoda's favorites, mostly because he likes to get into fights too much with a bully named Bruck. (Why they let a bully stay at the Temple is beyond me).

Obi-Wan was 3 weeks away from his 13th birthday when Qui-Gon came back to the Temple looking for another padawan. The master's prior one turned to the Dark Side, so he was hesitant, but Yoda convinced him to finally try another one. Obi-Wan beat his rival Bruck in the duel for Qui-Gon, but Qui wouldn't choose him because he felt his fighting was reckless and angry. Afterward, Bruck sets Obi-Wan up and they have a private duel, which is STRICTLY forbidden. Obi-Wan gets KICKED OUT of the Temple and sent to work using the force to grow plants in something called the Agri-Corps!! Bruck is kicked out too, but I won't tell you what happened to him, in case someone wants to read it.

On the way to his new job, when he's still a couple of weeks from his birthday, Obi-Wan happens to fall into a situation that lands him in an ad hoc mission with Qui-Gon, who allows the kid to travel with him. After Obi-Wan proves his loyalty, willing to sacrifice his own life to save Qui-Gon and thousands of other innocent people, Qui-Gon finds a way out of the situation, but is impressed and asks him to be his padawan.

Awwwwwww!

And the rest is movie history.

[Count Dooku]

When you are trained first you are trained by Master Yoda, then once your in your teens you go to a Jedi Master. So Obi-Wan was first trained by Yoda, then Qui-Gon took the role until Obi-Wan was a Jedi.

[Shoma Barad]

The remote could have been Han's... blasters DO have a stun setting...

~~Shoma

[century]

You know, young boys are headstrong and reckless in general. There are very very very few mentally disciplined 13 year old boys in the galaxy. Did anybody ever think that maybe it's Jedi tradition to refuse training to certain students as a kind of test of ambition? ie: Obi wan, Anakin, Luke. It sort of reminds me of fight club where they'd make applicants wait on the porch for three days before admitting them. Am I allowed to make fight club parallels here? Too late now.

[darth scourge]

I believe that the training remote was Obi wans because he probably knew he would encounter Luke at some point and want him to train as a Jedi.He had Anakins lightsaber saved for him so i think he prepared himself for this and aquired a training remote.

[darthimmus]

I wonder if Obi-wan would practice with the remote every now and again to keep his skills sharp.

[Kapit]

Originally posted by darth scourge@Oct 19 2004, 02:20 PM
I believe that the training remote was Obi wans because he probably knew he would encounter Luke at some point and want him to train as a Jedi.He had Anakins lightsaber saved for him so i think he prepared himself for this and aquired a training remote.
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it's mentioned in one of the han solo books (i believe) that the remote is actually han's and he uses it aboard the falcon to practice his reflexes when shooting (for example, listening, moving, etc)

[darthimmus]

Good against remotes is one thing...

[Kapit]

direct quote from TOS


The most common model of remote is the Marksman-H , used extensively by sharpshooters to polish their skills. Han Solo owned one with which he refined his quickdraw abilities, firing at the remote with light-only blasts.

[Obi-Stu]

I thought it was Jedi standard equipment, like the underwater breathers they happen to carry on peaceful negotiation mission for the chancellor...

[Kapit]

i don't know about you, but to me it looked like obi-wan really didn't have anywhere to stow a remote that big

[Obi-Stu]

isn't that a personal thing?

[Kapit]

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