Was Lord of the Rings robbed?

[Mann]

What do you guys think? Do you think the Academy screwed up last year? I think they purposely did it not to award a Fantasy Film best picture, just like Star Wars and E.T.

[Mann]

DOH! wrong forum to post this on. Can the mods move it to the polls area?

[Rogue_0009]

Yeah LOTR deserved way more than what it gotand that this "acadamy" [henceforth refered to as "they"] will never give an award to a sci-fi, fantasy or horror film outside the behind the scenes and tech areas. They must be stopped. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

[Mann]

totally right Rouge 0009!

[Darth Whaler]

I was reluctant to watch it because I hadn't read the books and I had heard rumors that it was difficult to follow. But after renting it...darn straight! It should have cleaned up at the awards ceremony.

So a fantasy/sci-fi picture has never won huh? That is an outrage.

[Jedi_Zachaa]

What exactly did it recieve? Hopefully II and III will kick everything else's butt!!

[AlanRJ]

Totally agree with you, so should have had many more awards.

[STar war spUNK]

lord of the rings deserved to win best picture. but they probably didn't award it because there's more than one in that series. i dont' know. either way, its no excuse!

[Meche]

And away we go.

[Mann]

Lord of the Rings one 4 out of 13 nominations. they were Best Makeup, Best Visual f/x, Best Score and Best Cinematography.

the awards that it should have gotten: Best Art Direction, Best Supporting actor (though i am also partial to Ben Kingsley), Best Director and Best Picture

I can give Moulin Rouge best costumes because they stole the show, but the art direction wasn't that great (it took a year to make Hobbiton and the shire!) and I give black hawk down the awards for sound and editing cause they were superb. But the A Beautiful Mind awards were attrocious. Never has a film with so many nominations lost to a film with fewer nominations.

[Whuffa]

LOTR is awsome, but I liked the books waaaaaaay more than I liked the movie. They did the best job they could do but it was still a bit to slow at times, and a bit too comercialized at times also (the way they expanded on the character of Arwen and her relationship with Aragon just to have a significant Female character and a big romance).
Still, it would have been a much better choice than "A Beautiful Mind" (Uck!)

[Clara]

LOTR's has got to be by far one of the best movies to date! Except for Star Wars and Matrix of course. :blush:

[Mann]

I wonder who voted that it shouldn't have won anything.

[Justin]

Just watch; The Two Towers will get no nominations because it's a sequel.

[Mann]

What about the Godfather Part II? The Empire Strikes Back? The Temple of Doom? Terminator 2? they got nods and even won some.

[Kit]

I think it should have gotten more than those awards! It was pretty good!

A Beautiful Mind was good too; one of the best movies I've ever seen!

They both were exellent movies in my oppinion, but LOTR should have gotten more mostly because it's-- oh, I don't know-- one of the BEST EPICS OF ALL TIME!

[Whuffa]

"A Beautiful Mind" made me puke. I hate movies like that, which were made with the idea " must win Oscar for best movie" in the authors' heads. LOTR and Moulin Rogue were way better movies than that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Mann]

A Beautiful Mind was pretty bad. I read the book, and it is nothing like the movie, other than the fact tha the characters are the same and John Nash is a mathematician. The worst Best adapted screenplay ever since it was penned by the guy who wrote Batman and Robin and Lost in Space. What were they thinking?

Also, it's a crime to nominate a film in 13 catagories and only give them 4 awards. It's like they think it's the emmys or something! ABM was only the golden globes and on other critics choice for best picture. LotR won like 5 awards for best pic. Not to mention Moulin Rouge which won countless awards.

[Aayla]

Academy Awards has always been unfair competition. More Oscars to Lord of the Rings would have been nice.

But what do you think about Academy Awards 2003 (2002 movies)? We have The Two Towers and Attack of the Clones...

[Jamielee]

that's gonna be a tough race. . . especially in special effects and things like that

[Kit]

That's all their going to end up getting I'll bet, sadly; special effects awards. *Both are timeless movies, but LOTR may end up getting the award over SW. *If memory serves me correct, not even TPM won for best special effects (even though most senses had CGI) in the Academy Awards, but I could be wrong about that... *???

Mann, was the book different as in better than the movie, or worse? *Sorry that this is off topic.

[Mann]

Well, The LotR already won the special effects award last year, which probably will be on the same level as the last film so I think that its nomination is likely but a win isn't. Star Wars could win because of the final sequence alone, but I think we will see some other big movie come like Minority Report that takes the award away.

Kit, If you mean LotR books vs. LotR movies they aren't that far apart. Jackson and his crew did some impressive work, because it is hard to adapt this novel to the screen. Some of the changes are necessary to the film, such as the extended ending to make the movie which would have had no sense of completion have one. Also, the film's use of Arewen was a good idea since we hear about Arewen in the books, but she doesn't do that much in the first book. she replaces the character that actually saves Frodo who would have only been in that scene and nothing more. Books are hard to adapt and screenwriters change them all the time. I just read LA Confidentail and the plot in th book is much more inthrawling than the movie because it would have been harder to follow on screen. the movie won adapted screenplay and I love them both equally. The LotR is a great film well adapted from a great novel (guys, it is one novel divided into three parts)

[Kit]

Mann,

I apologize for not being more clear on that. I meant the book for A Beautiful Mind.
I know that the Lord of the Rings books are much like the movie. I went to see the movie with my mom and girlfriend, who both adored the LOTR books. I haven't read the series yet, I'm a bit shamed to admit. But I have started on The Hobbit and will definately go through the rest.

[Mann]

Oh, the A Beautiful Mind book is way different than the movie. The book is a biography about Nash's life and his battle with Schizophrenia. The Movie skips to the college part of his life and talks about Nash seeing people and talking to imaginary beings. This is not what happened. they turned a look at Nash's real life into a thriller movie that was ridiculously overhyped and a piece of trash. They neglect to mention what his actual economic breakthorugh was which isn't how they described it in the movie, and his actual thoughts on life like his anti-semitism and his bisexuality. They don't even mention his first wife who he married with another child. the movie changed the story to make Nash look more sympathetic. let's not mention the fact that Akiva Goldsman really sucks at writing movies and it will be a mystery to me how he won the oscar.

[Kit]

Thanks, Mann. I may consider picking that up somewhere soon.

[JediBendu]

All three will probably clean up every award you can get.

[Black Baron]

LOTR was deffinetly the best movie of the year.

[Mann]

Here's something I thought up. The whole LotR series cost 300 million to make right? well they made the movie at the same time, which could say that the films are one big movie. And Tolkien envisioned them as one novel, so could we say that LotR is the most expensive film of all time borken down into three parts?