Whitesaber's Pub Online

[Whitesaber]

EDIT: Eh, don't read all the boring tech talk through these pages. Click here (http://files.filefront.com/2144056) to download the map. This thread will now hold dates and times we will be playing. Stay tuned.
Since I strongly believe this doesn't belong in my pub, but belongs in this forum, I'll post it here.

I have already started production on a new Multiplayer map for Jedi Outcast that's going to be Whitesaber's Pub. For all who would be interested in playing online (I think the map will be strickly FFA) should post here so when the time comes I can PM the password to you. (It's going to be a private FFA, that way no lamers or uninvited guests join.)

But, for now, I'm still making it. Here's the newest screenshot that's only about a day old.

Comments needed. Tell me what I'm missing from the pub.

[Leia]

Hello hello! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Whitesaber]

Hello, Leia. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Greedo Boy]

Looks good, White. Just don't forget the parking area. With at least one ship parked that we can go into. Perhaps a roof as well, maybe even a second story....

But if that's too much for you, we can always have Trilo make it... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Greedo Boy]

Hmmm.... we all seem to have Lord of the Rings avatars...

Interesting.

[Whitesaber]

Geez, G-boy, why don't you make the map, then? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif Not to worry, actually. It still has Plo Koon's torture chamber, even though he blew it up recently. I'm still keeping it. It'll be a nice addition. I also have the parking area outside as well as a parking garage. As for the ship and the roof top... we'll see.

[Plo Koon]

I got a room in the back. Will you include that?

[Whitesaber]

Yep.

[Trilogist]

And don't forget the droids.

[Plo Koon]

Hey! I just thought of something. Is there anyway you can put traps in the torture chamber? That might be interesting.

[Whitesaber]

Traps are being considered. I'm also planning to make the torture devices actually work somehow and electrocute people. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Darthy]

What are you using to create it?

[Whitesaber]

Gtk Radiant 1.3.12 with Jedi Academy support, the newest Radiant available at Lucasfiles.com or JKIIfiles.com.

Click here (http://www.jk2files.com/file.info?ID=19845) to read more about it and download it, if you wish. Though the description makes it sound like it supports only Jedi Academy, it also supports Jedi Outcast, Star Trek Voyager Elite Force, Soldier of Fortune II, Quake, Quake II, and Quake III. It'll actually scan your system to see which games you have that use the Quake III engine, and then it'll install the necessary files in order to make maps for them.

But, once again, I've gone on way too long. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[Leia]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Dec 29 2003, 07:42 AM
Traps are being considered. I'm also planning to make the torture devices actually work somehow and electrocute people. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
I died once on a torture device... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif There was this iron maiden and I thought, hey I wonder what happens if I walk up to it! And then I died

[Whitesaber]

Uh oh. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

[Trilogist]

Originally posted by Leia+Dec 29 2003, 07:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leia @ Dec 29 2003, 07:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Dec 29 2003, 07:42 AM
Traps are being considered. I'm also planning to make the torture devices actually work somehow and electrocute people. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
I died once on a torture device... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif There was this iron maiden and I thought, hey I wonder what happens if I walk up to it! And then I died [/b][/quote]
*listens to Iron Maiden -- especially "the Trooper" -- all night*

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[Whitesaber]

Another screenshot, not that recent. I'm working on it, all right?!?! This screenshot is still the inside of the pub. But updates are as follows: Finished texturing the outside parking lot
Added a Slave I model parked outside style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif The ramp and first floor of the parking garage is textured, but I have to clip the parking spaces and add a different "stripe asphault" texture and add some cars
Good news, G-boy! I've added a roof section! (Trick of the eye I have to show you)
Textured the booths and the seats in them
I'm going to add my room and Plo's room probably today.

[Leia]

what's the big purple thing?

[Whitesaber]

It's an info_playerdeathmatch, or a possible spawn point where you'll start. I'm going to move them around, somewhat, and not all are created yet.

[Darth Darthy]

Whoa, I only got a 56KB modem at the moment - give me a couple of weeks and I'll be back on the broadband.
I'll download the editor but I want The Pub level to.

It's good because you've put down the foundations but it has no architectural detail? There should be pillars or curved supports to fill in the empty space. Break down the wall so it isn't one long texture. After all, it's a small confined space - every detail can be seen by it's users and that's what makes games great - the little details.

[Whitesaber]

Sounds like you've mapped before, Darthy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif Don't worry, I'm still messing around a little. But, thanks for the info. I'll get to it.

And, you know how the outside structure of the pub itself is all weird with caulk everywhere because I wasn't planning to have you to be able to walk outside the pub (I was going to only allow the parking lot to be available.) Now Greedo boy wants a rooftop sort of battle arena, and I wondered how can I do it... well, I basically created an outer shell for the pub to make it look like a building on the outside, but on the inside of the shell is what the pub really is, this:

[Darth Darthy]

Nah, don't bother with an outside - the Quake engine wasn't built for inside-outside levels. It's not possible to make a detailed interior and then a detailed exterior. Why would you want to get on the roof if you can't jump to the next one. And then the next one. And the next roof...

And eventually you'll wanna visit another buildiing and won't be able to.
Design Asthetics. One problem leads to another. Keep it mildly simple. One level to rule them all!!!

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Darth Darthy@Dec 30 2003, 03:49 PM
Nah, don't bother with an outside - the Quake engine wasn't built for inside-outside levels. It's not possible to make a detailed interior and then a detailed exterior. Why would you want to get on the roof if you can't jump to the next one. And then the next one. And the next roof...

And eventually you'll wanna visit another buildiing and won't be able to.
Design Asthetics. One problem leads to another. Keep it mildly simple. One level to rule them all!!!
Actually, the Quake III engine would handle an outside/inside level, in my opinion. That's what the vis process is all about: calculating what you can and can't see at a certain time. So, if you're outside the pub, it won't draw anything that's inside. Even if it does, I'm sure a few hint brushes will take care of that.

Rooftops offer certain things, such as a place to snipe if you want to. (That's specifically for me, the admin. (It'll be running the Academy mod 1.5))

[Darth Darthy]

Don't be fooled into thinking a plug-in will improve the engine. That's all the Team Arena or VIS exterior generator is. It's an add-on to an engine thats well over 5 years old. It simply added to the old engine technology as hardware became faster - it's not optimized for todays hardware.
It's a bit poo and slow really.

[Whitesaber]

Well, I was about to beta test it myself (after adding a skybox), so we'll see what happens.

Hey, do you know of a place I can download a vending machine MD3 model?

[Darth Darthy]

No, but if I knew a way to import a 3DSMAX model I could make any static model and texture pretty easily. I assume textures can be animated within the editor?

[Whitesaber]

Sorry, that requires ICARUS scripting (of which I need the new version of) and scripting isn't allowed in Jedi Outcast multiplayer, only in single player. Damn... Jedi Academy multiplayer allows scripting, though.

[Darth Darthy]

I'm not buying or downloading Academy. It's not worth it by a long shot. I'd rather buy Mario Kart DD then another FPS.

Are you telling me there's no way to add animated textures? That sucks. Doesn't matter I guess - as long as you know how to import .MAX files into this level editor.

[Whitesaber]

Hmmm... rethinking things through, well, if I could make a custom shader, I could animate a texture. What did you have in mind?

[Darth Darthy]

Nothing if its that complicated - it used to be much easier before 3D cards. I take it a static texture doesn't need any shader to work. As long as it's not got an opacity level that is.

[Whitesaber]

No, but if I knew a way to import a 3DSMAX model I could make any static model and texture pretty easily. I assume textures can be animated within the editor?

Do these help?

Massassi Information 1 (http://www.massassi.net/tutorials/jo_character_models/)

Massassi Information 2 (http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum17/HTML/000276.html)

[Darth Darthy]

Not in any way but thanks bloke! I'll have to look at the options in the editor itself. It must support importing of .3DS files or some way of converting them.

[Leia]

Leia's head explodes from all the techno babble

[Whitesaber]

Oh, I'm sorry, Leia. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif We're basically wondering if we can make our own vending machine in the pub.

[Leia]

I understood that part... lol

This is the kind of thing that I don't understand: Well, I was about to beta test it myself (after adding a skybox), so we'll see what happens.

[Whitesaber]

I was about to add a sky to the map, basically, and then compile it so Jedi Outcast can play it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Trilogist]

Originally posted by Leia@Dec 30 2003, 12:45 PM
what's the big purple thing?
Please tell me that's not Barney. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

[Trilogist]

Hey Whitey don't we already have a vending machine model from Soldier of Fortune? All it needs is the right texturing for it to look good in Outcast. Maybe somebody can help with that.

[Javen]

Looks great. Now can you add me killing Greedoboy?

[Whitesaber]

Sorry, I can't. But I'll kill him double as much as I normally would for you, buddy, and I'll capture screenshots of that too.

[Trilogist]

Hey Darthy and Whitey, here's a link for you: how to make MD3 files using your 3D editor (http://www.jedioutcastmaps.com/tutorials/vol_cm.html)

[Whitesaber]

Darthy, would you mind looking at this too? Sounds interesting.

[Greedo Boy]

Don't forget the locker room plastered with pictures of sumptuous Flo poses....

Oops, I've said too much already...

[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 1 2004, 06:53 PM
Sorry, I can't. But I'll kill him double as much as I normally would for you, buddy, and I'll capture screenshots of that too.
Yeah right. Have you forgotten what happened when we fought last? I slaughtered you time and again. No, young Jedi fool, you are no match for me, and never you shall.

[Whitesaber]

Hmmmm... I supposed if she sent me some...

I'm JOKING. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Greedo Boy]

Don't joke about things like that. Don't ever. And to think that for a moment I truly believed I could get my hands on one of those....

*Sighs*

What a world, what a world...

[Whitesaber]

You sicko... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Leia]

and I have to live with him style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/butbut.gif

[Whitesaber]

Hopefully tomorrow I can test this level and post up some screenies... it's far from completed, however.

[Trilogist]

You kids ... always playing those video games that go beep-beep-beep. Why don't you try reading a good book? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

psst ... Leia and GBoy, Whitey hates strong-style. It would be so humiliating for him to get cut down in strong fashion, especially as he swears by the superiority of medium and fast styles. Which is -- incidentally -- what happened the last time we clashed sabers, much to his chagrin.

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[Leia]

He was using strong style earlier today. I don't like using strong style it's too slow. Medium's my favorite

[Trilogist]

Heh, he won't admit it to me, but I think he's starting to prefer strong style. It is, as I have stated, the only natural style for an honorable Jedi.

Oh well, I'll find some other way to make him cry.

[Whitesaber]

You loser, Trilo. Just because you can't beat me at any game besides Need For Speed III, you have to spread your fabrications.

FABRICATOR!!!!

[Whitesaber]

Okaaaay, well, I've added the skybox and am starting on the lighting. It's just a rough draft, people, and it's probably going to look nothing like this when it's finished. But, here's an updated screenshot:

[flo fett]

Aww it's lovely whitey now I can really picture where I'll be when I kick Javen's 'leering-at-other-women, and probably cheating on his pregnant lady' ass. I feel so cosy.
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[Whitesaber]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Thanks, Flo. But Javen won't be able to play, seeing as he has an X-box and, therefore, can't play with us. Not to worry, though. We can kick his butt numerous times in the pub...

Speaking off, the screenshot was taken directly from the map editor. The actual game map will be dimmer. A lot dimmer.

[Whitesaber]

Okay, I tested it out yesterday and today. Here are some screenies. Suggestions are welcomed.

[Whitesaber]

(WOOHOO! 5000 posts!!!)

#2:

[Whitesaber]

#3: The entrance to Plo Koon's basement torture chamber...

[Whitesaber]

#4: Plo Koon's torture chamber (going to add more stuff later)

[Whitesaber]

#5

[Leia]

Why are you a girl?

[Javen]

I'm lucky I came in here to lurk. I found many references to kicking Javen's butt. Anyway, when are you gonna show Javen the Dark Lord in the pub?

Kicking everyones butt with my winter storm force.

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Leia@Jan 5 2004, 12:46 PM
Why are you a girl?
To be specific, I was Mara Jade. Mara Jade = me likey. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

I'm lucky I came in here to lurk. I found many references to kicking Javen's butt. Anyway, when are you gonna show Javen the Dark Lord in the pub?

Kicking everyones butt with my winter storm force.

I suppose I can make a "Javen the darth Lord" bot. Is that what you want?

[Darth Darthy]

Its a little dark bloke. You need to balance the ambient lighting.

I was thinking, you know in ROTJ in Jabba's palace when Leia/Boush tries to rescue Han at night? They added ambient moon-blue light that cast from an unseen grate in the ceiling.

[Whitesaber]

I got the impression pubs were dim... seeing as I've never really been in one, though, I guess I'll make it a bit brighter. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif By "balance the ambient lighting" do you mean smooth out the lighting?

[Whitesaber]

And why do you keep calling me bloke?!?!?!?!

[Darth Darthy]

Pubs are dark but not to the point where you need nightvision goggles to get to the bar. By balance I mean balance. It's difficult to get right, you wanna keep the ambience of the pub moody but still be able to see. You don't need white lights to make it easier to see, maybe a dark blue from a strip light on one of them pillars. So you can at least make out objects in the room and not just a faint silhouette.

I call you bloke cause your a bloke. Bloke. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Darth Darthy@Jan 5 2004, 05:45 PM
Pubs are dark but not to the point where you need nightvision goggles to get to the bar. By balance I mean balance. It's difficult to get right, you wanna keep the ambience of the pub moody but still be able to see. You don't need white lights to make it easier to see, maybe a dark blue from a strip light on one of them pillars. So you can at least make out objects in the room and not just a faint silhouette.

I call you bloke cause your a bloke. Bloke. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Gotcha. That's what I thought you meant. The entire pub is slightly lit (I always imagined a yellow/orange tone myself) except Trilo's corner, which he specifically asked to be left... well, dark.

Now to the outside: afternoon, night sky, or evening sunset? Most people visit pubs at night, right?

[Darth Darthy]

Yeah, except chronic alcoholics. See? If your putting in windows or shafts or holes like in the sw cantina, thats how you can add diffusion light to the scene. Which if the sun were setting would be that orangey/yellow you were looking for.

[Whitesaber]

Yeah, I like the sunset idea better. So far, there aren't windows, though. Should I add some? I have purely indoor lights right now.

And I'm still trying to find out how to add a jukebox...

[Darth Darthy]

LOL! A juke box that plays the cantina song? I had a look at that .md3 editing guide, modeling the juke box wouldn't be the hard bit, doing that quake c stuff to make shaders is.

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Darth Darthy@Jan 5 2004, 06:21 PM
LOL! A juke box that plays the cantina song? I had a look at that .md3 editing guide, modeling the juke box wouldn't be the hard bit, doing that quake c stuff to make shaders is.
Well, if you want to animate the textures, yes, the shaders would be difficult for you and me, since I have never messed with making shaders and I take it you've never done it yourself. But why would we want to animate textures on the jukebox? Why not just texture it like normal?

[Darth Darthy]

They usually flash and stuff. Guess it could just be static.

[Whitesaber]

You're right! They have beeping lights and stuff...

Let me investigate this. Maybe I can make a few blinking light shaders... whilst you must show me how this jukebox MD3 is turning out... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Obidobi]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 6 2004, 12:32 AM
And why do you keep calling me bloke?!?!?!?!
Darthy is calling everybody Bloke.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Sure am bloke!

[Whitesaber]

Why does Obidobi look like this: http://www.galacticsenate.com/style_images/2/icon8.gif?

[Leia]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 5 2004, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I like the sunset idea better. So far, there aren't windows, though. Should I add some? I have purely indoor lights right now.

Add windows!! Rooms without windows are... *shudders* unpleasant

[Whitesaber]

Add windows!! Rooms without windows are... *shudders* unpleasant

Hehe... like the Pub? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

*Breaks into song, a song that's an obvious parody of the Ghost Busters theme song*

When you're not so sure
What to put in your pub
Who ya gonna ask?
DARTH DARTHY!

...

I just woke up, okay?

[Obidobi]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jan 6 2004, 01:58 AM
Why does Obidobi look like this: http://www.galacticsenate.com/style_images/2/icon8.gif?
Because I work on a ship..... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[flo fett]

Ooh it's looking good, looking good. I like the torture chamber...mmmm....torture. The pub looks intimate, cosy. Looks like the kinda place where shady shenanigans go on.
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[Whitesaber]

Thankies, Flo.

Update: Lighting has been balanced
Restrooms added with toilets and stuff
Music added (cool, bar music type of stuff. You'll like it)
Sunset type of lighting outside, making it perfect
Things I have yet to do: Garage
Further additions to the torture chamber
Fixing up and finishing main pub
Adding detail to the bathrooms

[Whitesaber]

ARGH! One issue that just popped up is FPS. It's all the models I'm using in the pub right now, it takes up tons of resources. I'm surprised it's handled this much, but 14 FPS is a no no. I'll probably put to use my brilliant brush-work and just make the tables instead of using models. Besides, I still need that *ahem*jukebox model*cough*. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Darthy]

I just got back to me own PC today and I've got some other stuff to do but don't worry - you'll get it.

[Whitesaber]

Sorry for the long wait. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

Updates: The Pub now has a working torture machine
A fog brush has been added to the main part of the pub to make it look smokey. I like the feel, but it may be removed because of too many resources being taken up
My room has been fully textured and lit
Plo Koon's room as been fully textured and lit
Roof part lit but needs adjustments (too bright)
I'm currently duking it out with two bugs: The bathroom mirror won't work. In Quake III terms, it's a portal that needs a certain information tag near it (about 64 units away) to work. I did it and it still doesn't display anything. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. The other bug are my custom textures. For some reason they aren't working. Some are displaying but not scaled correctly and some are not displayed at all.

Anyways, I'm working furiously on those two programs so I can get to finishing this thing up. Sorry for the lack of screenshots, as some of you might know, I had a virus about a week ago and all my executables were ruined. I can't reinstall Photoshop at this time, and there are no Windows based graphics programs that I can use to scale them down small enough to post here.

Darthy, can I send them your way so you can post them for me?

[Darth Darthy]

Yeah, go for it bloke!

[Darth Darthy]

New Pub shots courtesy of Whitey:

[Darth Darthy]

Pub shot 2:

[Darth Darthy]

Pub shot 3: (Glad I aint a midget - I'd never get served! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif )

[Whitesaber]

I can't stand that grid of death (meaning the engine couldn't find the texture). But the torture device really works. Desann was getting hurt and eventually died... hehe...

Thanks, Darthy... more coming...

[Darth Darthy]

Here's whats I've done so far on the juke box Whitey! I'll be given MAX a rest tonight methinks.

[Whitesaber]

Exactly what I wanted, Darthy! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Thought so! "The Force is indeed with me" as Supershadow might say... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Trilogist]

If you look closely at pub shot 3, you'll see a drunken fool passed out on the floor on the far left.

[flo fett]

Ahhhh it's the realism that makes it special. God is in the details. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Whitesaber]

Take a look at shot 3 again: did anyone catch the fire extinguisher and Trilo's phone?

[flo fett]

I already noticed Trilo's phone but I had to go back there and have a look for the fire extinguisher. Excellent...excellent

[Whitesaber]

Okay, Darthy, how goes the jukebox?

Okay, I've fixed the textures problem. Now all I got to do is fix everything up nice and tidey so Darthy can beta test it. BTW, how am I going to get it to you, Darthy?

[Darth Darthy]

I haven't done any more of the juke box - I need to send you the model so you can convert it and test it. It may have too many polys, I don't know whta the limit is before it slows it down.

AIM doesn't work to well cause I'm behind a router firewall and I only have a Hotmail address so you'll have to MSN it to me.

[Whitesaber]

Okay. Send it to my e-mail addy: gogglehead86@yahoo.com

Whilst I perfect the pub. In a few days, you'll be having it in your inbox. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Whitesaber]

Okay, here is a list of things I need to do, most not even related to the map making:

Model related: Need to use Darthy's jukebox and add it to the pub
Need to find a vending machine model or have Darthy make one too. I'd hate to burdon him, though style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif Need to have Trilo send me the dart board model he found
I must find a broom model or something... plus other cleaning tools to add to G-boy's closet
Texture related: I need to make a "Plo Koon's room" texture
I need to make a "Whitesaber's Room" texture
I need to make corresponding "Men" and "Women" symbols for the doors to the bathrooms
I must add a texture of Greedo Boy writing on the wall in his cleaning closet
I need to make a Valet Parking sign too
But now, I think the beta version is about ready. Trilo and I will test it out first and then I'll hand it over to you, Darthy. I just need to unproject it and make it into a whole PK3 that you can use.

[Darth Darthy]

What kind of vending machine? There are a billion different types!

[Whitesaber]

I forgot which one we had... I think it was a snack vending machine, though...

[Whitesaber]

WOOHOO! I'd say in about a week and version 1 will be done!!

Now I have to figure out how to distribute the map and how to host a server... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Leia]

You can give it to me to download and I can host style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Greedo Boy]

I'm not entirely sure if we're capable of hosting these days, Leia, even if we slit Zonealarm's throat... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Whitesaber]

Well, G-boy, Leia hosted once and I was able to join. The problem is I need her to run the Jedi Academy Mod that can be downloaded here (http://www.jk2files.com/file.info?ID=21693). All you need to do with this one, Leia, is use the Windows installer and just type in the correct directory. Note that mods need to be installed to the gamedata directery and NOT the gamdeata/base directory. Make sure it's there.

Whenever you host a game, you can load it from Setup and Mods. It should be on the list.

Anyways... if you could host, Leia, I'd be very very happy... but Javen might be a better choice since he doesn't have to worry about a certain brother or other brother kicking him out of the computer when hosting the game... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Whitesaber]

Hehe...

[Whitesaber]

More of the torture chamber...

[Trilogist]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Feb 9 2004, 08:02 AM
but Javen might be a better choice since he doesn't have to worry about a certain brother or other brother kicking him out of the computer when hosting the game... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
GOD, I LOVE BEING AN ADMINISTRATOR!

Blizzard and T-bone, I don't know how you do it. The power corrupted me as soon as I realized I had it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Whitesaber]

Trilo, don't flatter yourself. I wasn't referring to you.

[Trilogist]

But I still love being an admin. Nothing you say or do will ever take that love away!

[Javen]

OK, I now have JK installed. And on a side note, I also today bought Galaxies. Trilo and Whitesaber you must get it too. So then we can rule the galaxy togteher as father and sons, or,, uh friends.


Anyway, so where we gonna meet up in JK, White? Do you just go in under JK's multiplayer on their servers or what?

[Whitesaber]

Well, for the pub, I don't know yet. I still have yet to find someone who can host for us.

As for just plain out playing, I suppose we can get together on AIM and find a suitable server to play on. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Trilogist]

Originally posted by Javen@Feb 11 2004, 10:23 AM
And on a side note, I also today bought Galaxies. Trilo and Whitesaber you must get it too. So then we can rule the galaxy togteher as father and sons, or,, uh friends.
Galaxies is a no-go, unless it's not a subscription service anymore. I ain't paying 15 dollars a month to keep playing that game. Besides, I've been told it's not very entertaining.

[Whitesaber]

Release date for Whitesaber's Pub v 1.0: February 22

Be on the lookout for updates. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Javen]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Feb 16 2004, 07:35 PM
Release date for Whitesaber's Pub v 1.0: February 22

Be on the lookout for updates. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Dude, that's my birthday! THanks for the present.

[Whitesaber]

Bad news... the release date is being delayed until the beginning of October this year... sorry guys.

[Javen]

What? That has to be a joke.

[Whitesaber]

It was. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif I was just checking if people read this thread anymore. Guess not. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif Except you, Javen. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[flo fett]

I read it! I have no idea why seeing as I don't play Jedi Outcast online, but I still read it! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Actually I read it but seeing as you give me all the inside info anyway I don't need to post! Ha! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Javen]

NOw Whitey, please let me know who is hosting, what server and all that jzz so we can meet up and I kill you all repeatedly.

[Javen]

Hello?? *Hellloooo... Heelloo...Hello..*

[Whitesaber]

I'm here.

The Pub map has been uploaded to FileFront. When they accept it, I will provide a link for you to download it.

[Whitesaber]

WOOHOO!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/trooper.gif

I am happy to announce that Whitesaber's Pub 1.0 has been accepted by Filefront and is now available for download. Click here (http://files.filefront.com/2144056)

Now, to figure out hosting issues.

[Javen]

I downloaded it and saved it in my JK files.

[Greedo Boy]

I think I downloaded it but have no idea where it is lurking...

[Trilogist]

It's somewhere in that cavernous, labyrinthian mind of yours. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Javen]

so when we gonna play?

[Leia]

It seems, both GB and I downloaded it... whoops. It wasn't in the folder when I downloaded it! Where the heck did you stick it, GB?? Ah, I just read back and saw. Well, duh, what good is it if you download it in the wrong place?? I have downloaded it correctly.

[Whitesaber]

Yay Leia!

Javen, dunno. Leia, have you downloaded the Jedi Academy mod yet? Pweeeease?

[Greedo Boy]

Hey, all I did was click download, walk away for a few minutes, come back to find it finished, and X-ed it out. It never gave me any indication of where it was going to stick it.

[Javen]

I extracted it it but it doesn't show up in the list of maps when I create server. Someone else will have to host then I can join.

[Whitesaber]

Did you extract it directly to the gamedata/base folder of the Jedi Outcast directory? The PK3 file should be right there. To find that directory, right click the Jedi Outcast icon on your desktop and hit properties. Click on Find target and boom! Yousa should see the gamedata directory. Open that folder and find the base directory. Open that and you're there. Put the PK3 file in there.

[Whitesaber]

Also, make sure to set the game type to Free For All. The map is strictly Free For All, not a Duel or Capture the Flag. This option is just above the map screenshot that's above the list of maps.

[Javen]

It's in there, but like I said;When I start the game and looked for the map on the side. I don't see it.

[Whitesaber]

Even with the Free For All gametype on? It won't display it unless you're looking for Free For All games.

I checked it and even downloaded it. It has the necessary file to display it on the map list. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif Weird.

[Javen]

Yep that's what I had it on. It's just called Pub, right?

[Whitesaber]

Whitesaber's Pub. It should be way on the bottom of the list after you scroll down.

[Leia]

Whitey, tell me how to get the admin mod again?

[Whitesaber]

First, download it here (http://www.jk2files.com/file.info?ID=21693) if you haven't. Then, run the installer and install it in the gamedata folder (not gamedata/base). Start the game, go to setup, mods, and load the Jedi Academy Mod. Then you start the server with the map you want and stuff.

[Leia]

Actually... I think I already have it... But I tried to load it once and I got something completely different...

[flo fett]

ooh Whitey I downloaded it and went into have a look, it's fab! At last I can see the room where Javen and I made our little bundles of evil *sigh*. I have to say though I nearly had a heartattack when I went into the Valet parking area...sheesh! What a picture! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Javen]

^You have Jedi Outcast?

[flo fett]

yeah, I bought it so I could see the pub! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Javen]

awww...that was sweet.

[Whitesaber]

WOOHOO! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif Flo!!! Okay, now we definitely need a date to do this thingy online. Unfortunately that can't happen until I get my bro to configure the router for hosting. That way we won't be... *ahem* lagging everywhere left and right. You know what I'm talking about, right, Leia?

[flo fett]

Originally posted by Javen@Mar 1 2004, 01:15 AM
awww...that was sweet.
what can I say? I'm that kinda friend style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Leia]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Mar 2 2004, 07:36 AM
Unfortunately that can't happen until I get my bro to configure the router for hosting. That way we won't be... *ahem* lagging everywhere left and right. You know what I'm talking about, right, Leia?
umm... I guess so... If somebody tells me how to fix my router, I can host

[Whitesaber]

Holy....

Check this link out. My map's on YAHOO!

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=ush1-mai...p=dartboard+md3 (http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=ush1-mail&p=dartboard+md3)

[Darth Darthy]

LOL! Nice one Whitey! Or should that be Jonny? Heh.

[stormtrooper9]

Whitesaber do you need the CD in you computer to MOD with the GtkRadiant-1.3.12 program you use if this is it?

[Whitesaber]

You don't need the CD if you're just making a map, but if you play the game, you need the CD.

BTW, I made a Whitesaber's Pub MAP not MOD, which means you just start a game and it should be in the list of available maps if your under Free For All game type.

[stormtrooper9]

Its not and the program for mapping say that my settings wont let GL_INVALID OPERATION to opperate or something like that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Patch JK2 to the latest version.

[stormtrooper9]

Ok thanks.