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Badass Leia
05-27-2002, 12:41 AM
Being one of the younger Star Wars fans, you'd be surprised on how many people my age have not even heard of Star Wars. I am a huge fan of the classic trilogy and AOTC was wonderful! I still have to say I like the chemistry between Leia and Han style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif more than Anakin and the Senator. Maybe it is just because I am a big classic trilogy and can't have anything replace it. I don't know, what do you guys think?

Vyndim
05-27-2002, 12:55 AM
Actually I don't like the romance between Leia and Han. I mean yeah, its there, its developed, it has bases but its all too typical for me. There are hardly any obstacles other than each other. I prefer the romance between Anakin and Padme much more. They have so much conflict going on during the romance and they both desperately try to cling on to it. Anakin and Padme both see the complications it will bring up and the harm it causes, but out of love(however naive it may have been) they continue on with it anyway. Although the romance was doomed to failure, I believe it makes the romance that much more solid and tragic. I think because of that it has a greater effect on those who see it.

Badass Leia
05-27-2002, 01:07 AM
I never thought of it that way. That is a good point. It makes it more interesting because you don't know what is going to happen to them. It is more of a Romance I want to see more of instead of more Han and Leia because you know what happens with them. I think I preferred it more because of the characters. Padme and Anakin do have to go through a lot to keep it alive. Anakin even isn't allowed to get married! Geez so many obstacles. Thanks for pointing this out. I am too stupid to figure these things out on my own. :sly:

Master Jason
06-05-2002, 02:38 PM
The romance between Anakin and Padme is obviously more important to the overall story, but the way it was portrayed left it seriously lacking behind the Han and Leia romance.

Vyndim
06-07-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Master Jason@June 05 2002 - 10:38
The romance between Anakin and Padme is obviously more important to the overall story, but the way it was portrayed left it seriously lacking behind the Han and Leia romance.
Negative, I don't think the way the romance was shown was all that bad, considering the setting. In the time of turmoil and conflict, things arn't going to work out or play out nicely or as planned. Anakin and Padme took what little time they had and attempted to foster a relationship. Although, at some points it looked as though both didn't know what to do, they still went along with it. In fact, I feel the romance between Han and Leia was lacking. There were no obstacles for them to conquer really and it was pretty typical. Not to mention their relationship is pretty rushed as well, although we know how their's ends because of the EU... However, I think we'll see some more development of the tragic romance between Anakin and Padme in Episode III.

Leia
06-08-2002, 12:02 PM
The "romance" between Anakin and Padme is just plain creepy! I mean, he freaks the poor girl out! He freaks me out!! He's just a little too intense about it all... I don't think the dialogue in the movie helped all that much, either...

DanielSkywalker
06-08-2002, 01:01 PM
Well, you'll have to remember that this is all happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. I'm sure that the way they looked at "dating", "courting", whatever was quite different than we American's (where ever your from) do. Where I do admit that Anakin came off as a little creepy, he is young and knows what he wants (he, of course, wants Padme, and I can see why :D), and knows he has very little time to get it. As for Padme, she obviously needs some excitement in her life, and Anakin seems to deliver all of that. Plus he's young and attractive (or so I hear), and dark and misterious. She obviously is attracted to the wrong kinda' guys, plus, she has emotional ties to him from that time they spent together during TPM. So, anyways, I guess I'm going to quit my rambling and wrap this up. I admit, the romamce was a little rushed, perhaps Mr. Lucas could include some of the deleted footage in the DVD to develop the romance story further. But, as a whole, I thought it was fine.

Aurra Sing
06-08-2002, 01:24 PM
Yes, I think the obstacles were big into the the romance of Anakin and Padme...Anakin was a little...I don't know the word..."obsessive"? It was kinda scary. I like the romances pretty equal...Han and Leia a bit more just because I'm really into the CT. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

The Doctor
06-09-2002, 05:53 AM
I have to go with Han and Leia because I liked their (admittedly stereotypical) love hate thing, it was never really presented as being amazingly deep or anything, whereas you are meant to beleive that Anakin and Padme's love is deep, spiritual and whatever else as soon as they meet after 10 years.
Basically I like Han and Leia more because they had the funnier lines
'Alright don't get excited'
'Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited.'
'Sorry sweetheart, we don't have time for anything else.'

We just don't get anything like that from Padme and Anakin, it's not as interesting. As for the conflict thing, I would say that Han and Leia had some pretty serious conflict going on too, and not just with each other style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif.

Aurra Sing
06-09-2002, 01:17 PM
lol yeah. And the lines where they try to kinda get serious..

"I love you."
"I know."

Leia
06-09-2002, 09:05 PM
Han and Leia's relationship was fun, and easy to watch!! It's too heavy and awkward between Anakin and Padme. I was cringing during every single "love" scene.

RollaFett
06-09-2002, 10:07 PM
You said it good Doctor, that was my main problem with it as well. Sure, Anakin and Padme knew each other in TPM, but for how long? A week or so? And he was 9! What does he know about love?! Then fast forward 10 years and he's completely infatuiated with her. Why? Who knows? But fine, he is. At least you know where he's coming from. Padme? Well she certainly doesn't appear interested in Anakin in a romantic way that I could tell. And the fact that she does just isn't sold real well. You have a couple of stiff dialogue scenes between the two that are supposed to set up the kiss, but they really didn't do a good of setting it up. But even that is fine, you're allowed to have a kiss because a lot of that could just be a physical attraction rather than emotional. It's the fireplace scene that makes absolutely no sense. First of all, the movie cuts to it very awkwardly, all of the sudden there they are sitting in front of a fireplace. Then this god-awful dialogue kicks in from Anakin that just makes me want to crawl into a corner and laugh at the absurdity of it. How is Padme's attraction torwards Anakin supposed to grow after he comes off as such a phsycho?! I joked on another thread that whenever I spoke to a girl like that they would usually run away and call 911, well is that really too far off base here? So can someone tell me what it is about Anakin that Padme is attracted to? Sure, it's convenient to admit your love for someone when you think you are about to die, but why does she love him suddenly? How did these feelings develop?
Oh, oh, oh! Just had a thought, what if Padme really does feel as awkward about Anakin as she appears to throughout the film? What if she actually doesn't love him? What if she does LIKE the guy, but seems to think that he needs someone or else "who the hell knows what will happen to this lunatic?" Well, what do you think? Could that be it? Hmmmm...a mystery this romance is.

Count Dooku
06-09-2002, 10:47 PM
I liked Padme and Anakin. It just show's how Anakin falls to the dark side, and how much he cared for her, I thought it was more romantic, and personal*style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

Admiral DaaLa
06-09-2002, 11:30 PM
Personally i think the Han and Leia romance takes the cake, just because their love is more spontaneous. It brings to mind love at first sight, with a love and hate relationship and shows competition between the two best mates HAn and Luke. Leia's relationship with Han developes his character and gives him dimension other then scoundral.

As for Padme and Anikin the love shown is very much for a chick flick audience. It is increcibly 'mushy'. GollaFett asked why is anikin so infatuated and how is it possible for a nine year old to love. The thing is PAdme replaced the role of his mother when anikin left tattooine so she became very close to him. AS for loving her, as a child he may had loved her in a caring way where as when he matures into a man he falls in love with her. DOn't get me wrong he is a psycho but you never know what young ladies are into.

Anikin's character does develope through Padme as it keeps him on the light side and shows his caring nature. But it also shows his volatility and how emotinally unstable he is. In truth i think the Padme Anikin romance is there because we need Luke and Leia to have parents plus the ATOC dialog was so action packed that the romance was a mental break for the audience.

mattypo
06-09-2002, 11:44 PM
all through this thread people have talked about the difficulties facing anakin and padme he's a jedi she's a senator etc.

i'd call one half of a relationship getting frozen in a block of carbonite a GREAT BIG difficulty.

there is nothing currently more tragic in the star wars universe than leia declaring her love for han only for him to droped into the freezing chamber only replying "i know"

maybe ep III will give us more tragidy who knows

Aurra Sing
06-10-2002, 12:05 AM
Yes, that is a very big obstacle for Leia and Han! It's such a long time. :dontgetit:

RollaFett
06-10-2002, 10:37 PM
Admiral DaaLa- I sure don't know what young ladies are into! It seems Padme sure picked a winner, huh? Oh well. As for your counter point on Anakin falling for padme to replace the mother he just left, well, I can't buy that because he JUST left her in TPM and hung around Padme for just a couple of days. he had a lot on his mind for a 9 year old, what with trying to get into jedi training, leaving his mother, hell, leaving the only home he had probably ever known, and for him to fall in love with a girl in addition seems unbelievable, IMO.

Vyndim
06-10-2002, 10:46 PM
Anakin falling in love with Padme seems believable to me. I mean, the first time he speaks to her, he asks her if she was an angle. Well, as a child sometimes things make a large impression on you, even little things. Perhapes Anakin's first impressions of Padme have stuck with him all these years, and when he left her he constantly recalled how she was and what he thought about her. Thus causing his affection for her to grow, and eventually become an obession.

Meche
06-11-2002, 12:41 PM
I like Han and Leia's. It wasn't rushed; after all, the two had three years to get to know each other, and it took cooping up inside the Falcon to bring the feelings into the open. Obstacles? Well, getting frozen might kind of hinder a marriage.

The 'romance' if you could call it that between Ani and Amidala was more of an obsession, and not mature. The two are portrayed as teenagers when it comes to maturity, and yet they get married. Anyone can see that a marriage based on that level of maturity is doomed. And btw we knew exactly what will happen. We didn't know, with Han and Leia. It was even considered that Han might die (that's what Harrison Ford suggested, anyway).

Actually, there's a thread in the Prequel spoilers section where I talked heavily on the subject of the Anakin/Amidala romance. I just realized I'm repeating myself.

Aurra Sing
06-11-2002, 09:29 PM
Yes I agree. Han might die according to harrison Ford? Hmm...

Meche-Sorry you had to repeat yourself. ;) appriciate it though

Meche
06-11-2002, 09:35 PM
Doh, I meant Harrison Ford said Han might have died in RotJ. But it was changed, Lucas didn't want Han to die. So it didn't happen. I used some bad tense there.

Senator Theant
06-13-2002, 03:19 AM
This is a hard one to choose only because the differences are ENORMOUS.

But all things considered, I think that the Anakin/Padme relationship will eventually become my favorite between the two because Lucas has yet to explain many things in Ep III. For now, Han and Leia is prob the only romance story on film that I can bear! I have a very low tolerance for love story types. There relationship is very humorous and I think that reflects the general sentiment of the era. I mean, the PT is all about doctrine and tradition. Senators here, Jedis there and no integrating! In the OT, doctrine and tradition is trashed and the few Senators that hold influence whatsoever are thrown into a terribly lopsided battle against the Empire. Doctrine and tradition is replaced by rogueness and originality. Han and Leia's relationship can florish.

So to sum up: my vote goes for Han/Leia for now, but Ep III will tip the scales for Anakin/Padme and there are obvious differences between the two, so a decision is hard to make.

QuigonWindu
06-13-2002, 07:53 PM
The Padme/Anakin romance had bigger affects on the story but my vote goes to Han/Leia. It wasnt as dark and tragic as Anakin/Padme's. Als, it was sort of funny, one minute they hate eachother, the next tehy love eachother.

AlanRJ
06-30-2002, 04:36 PM
Well my vote would have to be with the Han/Leia relationship. They just had the best lines and Han is just way such a cool character (judging by my avatar you would probably have guessed who I would have went for anyway).

I mean no-one has had a more classic line than:

Leia: I love you
Han: I know

I feel like a parrot here when I say all this because it seems like a lot of people have covered this already but I just have to agree with them. I also think that at the moment Anakin is too intense about the whole love thing.

Oh well, maybe Episode III he may be a bit more normal in it (yeah right!!).

Vyndim
06-30-2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by AlanRJ@June 30 2002 - 12:36
Oh well, maybe Episode III he may be a bit more normal in it (yeah right!!).
Well maybe that is idea. I don't think the romance between the two is supposed to be "normal." Maybe its a misintrepretation and people keep thinking the romance will be like the one between Han and Leia. Both Anakin and Padme have tons of issues and there are tons of things going on at the time of their romance, so in actuallity you can't expect them to have a normal "healthy" relationship. Things are going to be disfunctional, reckless, and ultimately it leads to tradegy. Personally I think romances like that are more appealing and interesting than the classic "refined girl falls in love with scruffy guy" idea.

RollaFett
07-01-2002, 12:24 AM
AlanRJ- You are right, that line was indeed a classic! The coolest part about it was that Ford ad-libbed it. Just awesome.

Vyndim- A valid point. This is a romance that we all know will fail one way or another, so it maybe shouldn't be as neat or convenient as others. That said, some of those lines, combined with Portman's acting, oh boy!

Winston_Sith
07-01-2002, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Badass Leia@May 26 2002 - 23:41
I don't know, what do you guys think?
I think that the Anakin/Padme romance is the better of the two; keep in mind, I am begining to think that I may like AotC better than TESB, so this may not come as much of a shock. *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I think that Anakin, as a Jedi Padawan, must be mindful of his feelings at all times; but regardless, he is a 'very passionate' (probably ‘overly passionate’) person whose passions usually get the better of him; and, despite a decade of Jedi training (or maybe, simply because of his lack of direct training under Master Yoda as a youth?), he struggles painfully with their influence over him; hence, people call his barely-contained passions, 'creepy', or his attempts to come to terms with them, ‘whiny’.

On the other hand, I think that Padme is very 'repressed', she always has to be mindful of her career, and the obligations entailed in her duty to her superiors (most notably, her most kindly, timid ally; Supreme Chancellor Palpatine A.K.A Darth Sidious… *ahem*) and/or constituents (like Queen Jamilla (the woman who appointed her to her Senatorial position in the first place, by the way) and Governor Bibble, back home on Naboo). Deep within herself, however, she too is struggling; with her attraction to the young Padawan assigned to protect her, however, NOTHING is supposed to get in the way of her duty to the people she serves, so she must continually push him away (even while wearing the most revealing of outfits); hence a lot of people thnk ‘Padme must die!!!’

I think however, that the root of Anakin’s anger over ‘losing his mother,’ lying in his decision to leave his home to be trained in the Jedi arts may have prompted his obsession with Padme; he had unconsciously been searching for a ‘Mother figure’; kind and supportive for an entire decade. Of course, Padme is more than willing to be ‘kind and supportive’, when her ‘human streak’ breaks through and her ‘Senatorial Persona’ happens to be on the ebb; unfortunately, she seems to be more and more supportive of of all of Anakin’s flaws; such as his (too little, too late) remorse for slaughtering the Tuskens, and his (nearly contained, without Padme’s ‘heroic’ influence) desire to disobey Master Windu),. Not that it can’t be said that Anakin’s influence wasn’t there to corrupt Padme’s vaunted Senatorial Ideals, as well; the whole “aggressive negotiations’ exchange in the Geonosis arena proves that she too had taken on an aspect of Anakin as her own; but it’s not like she hadn’t been there before, during the Battle of Theed…so maybe I’m seeing too much in this... but she DID have to drag Anakin to Geonosis, just as Anakin had gragged her to Tatooine... no good deed goes unpunished (Annie only has one hand, now).

Honestly, they both are looking for ‘the other’ to compliment (the Dark Side of) themselves. That’s what all the great ‘mythic romances’ are all about, right? Just watch Lifetime, for cryin’ out loud! ROFL

Oh, and about this idea about Padme only confessing her love to Anakin when she was ‘about to die’? Duh!!!! She had absolutely NO intention of dying from before the time she entered the arena; otherwise, she wouldn’t have picked her locks with the hidden… (um, lock-picking device?) so easily.

NEWS FLASH: SHE REALLY LOVES HIM!!!

Oh (agian), and I think that when Anakin (presumably) jokes about a 'dictatorship', Padme secretly agrees with him; after all, the Republic Senate is the place where she was once totally humiliated by the Trade Federation, and where she was 'forced', or (by her rationalizations) 'advised', or 'manipulated' to call for a 'strong chancellor', namely her ally, ten years hence, in the cause against the Military Creation Act: Supreme Chancellor, once Senator Palpatine; and look how much (or little) she had to think about the ethics of having a Clone Trooper (a result of the Military Creation Act she had so strongly opposed for a whole year) rush off to gather a force to save her lover, Anakin Skywalker (who seemed to diplay more character and self control in the presence of Obi-Wan Kenobi than he had in the presence of his lover, Senator Amidala, and followed his own duty to the Jedi Order) None at all, I think?

Anyways, I may come to change my mind; always in motion , my perception of the Star Wars Saga is.

Meche
07-01-2002, 10:35 PM
Vyndim, I see what you're saying but in describing Anakin and Amidala you also described Han and Leia to a large extent. The former was no less cliched, really.

Amidala having no intention to die? She was going to try to stay alive, certainly, but the danger was quite real. Leia confessed her love too when Han was possibly going to die (maybe her too), but it's not like they ran off and got married as soon as possible. Their relationship just kept developing first. It wasn't passed off as something that was suddenly huge and serious, while still important, and I guess I found that more believable.

I guess I just don't understand what went on in Amidala's mind. Anakin just didn't seem like someone one should get too close to.

MonMartha
07-01-2002, 11:37 PM
It's my age, perhaps. I would also cast my vote for Han and Leia. Luke gets a kiss and a lot of counseling from Leia. Han is likened to a colorful character: a scoundrel.

"One of these days you're gonna be wrong. I hope I'm around to see it." Ouch. Only the strongest of marriages would survive banter like that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

I knew that these two would marry someday, if the Empire would just let them be. Because they love each other, the best and the worst in each other. They aren't looking for perfection (remember that Anakin likens Padme to an angel), or for someone to "fix" (as Padme sees in the wounded, angry Anakin) but for a friend, lover and partner who can do -- or help them to do -- what they cannot do alone. They are strong individuals who make a great team.

Han and Leia (ESB) are ten to fifteen years older than Anakin and Padme, and the age difference is in the other direction. In addition, they've put a lot of mileage in their years: the universe is a different place in which to grow up (and to grow old) in their lifetime. Han has his debt to Jabba and Leia has a few emotional "walls" up. They have challenges to overcome. And then, there's the mutual friend with "delusions of grandeur" who keeps their lives interesting. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Did anyone else sense that P & A haven't discussed children? Somehow, I can't imagine Anakin waking up for the 2 am feeding. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

MM

Meche
07-01-2002, 11:46 PM
Your age?
Hmm. Han's age is right, yes, but Leia in ESB is actually about the same age as Amidala in AotC (but I think smarter). Otherwise, I agree. The AotC relationship seems too idealistic, if that's the right word.

Aurra Sing
07-04-2002, 01:39 AM
Yeah, Leia was a lot younger, but she seemed a lot more mature then Amidala. That's why we may get confused and think she was older than she really was. Anakin's love I think was almost more of an obsession it seemed. An...it was kinda scary. Although, lucky Padme for him being infatuated with her! AHHH! :sly:

Winston_Sith
07-04-2002, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Meche@July 01 2002 - 22:46
Han's age is right, yes, but Leia in ESB is actually about the same age as Amidala in AotC (but I think smarter).
Yeah, but then, in TESB Luke is older, and a lot 'smarter' in Yoda's teachings (except when he leaves to 'save' his friends), than Anakin was in AotC; so, your point is?

The AotC relationship seems too idealistic, if that's the right word.

Idealistic? It's as dysfuntional (on both sides) as anything else, and you call it 'idealistic'?

Meche
07-04-2002, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Winston_Sith@July 04 2002 - 01:27
Yeah, but then, in TESB Luke is older, and a lot 'smarter' in Yoda's teachings (except when he leaves to 'save' his friends), than Anakin was in AotC; so, your point is?

Idealistic? It's as dysfuntional (on both sides) as anything else, and you call it 'idealistic'?
Ow, it was just a comment. No offense meant by anything I said...

I called it idealistic because it didn't seem real, is all. Amidala didn't seem to see wrong in Anakin, or rather, he was okay no matter how bad he got. *cringe*

Winston_Sith
07-05-2002, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Meche@July 04 2002 - 11:23
Ow, it was just a comment. *No offense meant by anything I said...
Sorry, didn't mean to come off that strong. No offense taken.

I called it idealistic because it didn't seem real, is all. *Amidala didn't seem to see wrong in Anakin, or rather, he was okay no matter how bad he got. **cringe*

Well, here's a hint: she was 'seduced' by him, even while she was leading him on, and she even became a little like him in the process; what with the 'agressive negotiations' comment in the Geonisis arena. Which is not to say that she didn't do a lot of 'seduction' herself, as the Sithwitch would so eagerly remind you. ("I DARE you to resist, foolish Jedi!")

They were made for eachother...

Meche
07-05-2002, 04:40 PM
I guess that's my problem with it, and the reason for my comment that Leia is smarter. I thought Amidala was supposed to be smart but she seems anything but that. I mean, it's certainly one thing if she made an honest mistake or was taken advantage of, but this seems like stupidity.

Thinking about what Anakin did to the Tusken Raiders. It's an opinion of course but I think revenge is wrong. Without even saying how it was done, I don't think it's a good idea or moral. I don't know if Amidala would agree, but she seemed a pacifist type in a lot of ways. But delving deeper into revenge, it's one thing if you kill the guy who killed your mother. If Amidala felt sorry for him in doing that then it's dumb but I can kinda see it. But quite another thing is if you wipe out the camp including all the innocents. I just don't think Amidala can be smart if she doesn't realize what it means.

LOL, yeah, Sithwitch put it in similar ways to how I think of it, thought I wouldn't go so far as to say that Anakin was totally innocent in all this and only wanted to do what's right.

And you're right, she did get more aggressive ("aggressive negotiations" indeed... she's still the smart ass from TPM), but she also did fight during liberating Naboo. I would say that that part of her stayed with her, rather than came up during AotC.

Alqua
07-08-2002, 12:35 PM
I'm just a newbie, but I hope I can still say my opinion on the matter:

I definately liked Han and Leia's romance much much more than that of Anakin and Amidala. They had much better lines, better acting, better chemistry, and it all just seemed much more realistic. It wasn't just a big teenage crush that begins as quickly as it ends, but the love developed little by little and they both learned to know each other before giving into love, and that is exactly what I like about their romance, because I have never beleived in love on the first sight (because on first sight you can only tell whether a person is beautiful on the outside, and not what he/she really is like).

In AOTC I just fail to understand how on earth Amidala can fall in love with a guy that is clearly full of anger and is badly obsessed (not in love) with her and her beuty (I'd really be scared if I met a guy I'd only seen once long ago and he told he had been dreaming of me every day ever since). It all just looks too much like the big teenage crush I described above to be believable as a great love story. Besides, I just hated the lines they had, and I don't think the acting was that great either.

Amidala and Anakin's romance is of course more important to the the davelopement of the story (the birth of Luke and Leia), but Han and Leia's love story is definately more important to me.

Meche
07-15-2002, 09:47 PM
I agree with all that. *The AotC romance was pretty messed. *Amidala was just dumb, but I think their acting didn't help either. *Like I read in another thread, Portman's voice seems toneless and unconvincing.
But, I guess it just comes down to which couple is simply more pleasing to someone, on the whole. I mean, I grew up watching Han and Leia, I think they're a cute couple, I've always admired them. Meanwhile, I think the AotC couple aren't good actors, they didn't have as good a script, I don't care for Hayden's looks or the somewhat insulting attempt to use him to draw the girls in. I don't like Portman for, well, a variety of reasons, and Amidala had gone from a semi-good role model in TPM to a bad one here. But it's just opinion.

Vyndim
07-15-2002, 11:34 PM
Well let me take a stab at trying to explain Amidala's actions to make the romance more believable. Okay, both Anakin and Padme are thrown into an un forseen situation. Well events happen and they are both forced to rely on themselves and each other; thats it. Nobody else is there. Perhapes Padme was so desperate for some kind of compassion and relationship that she would even go for a creepy guy that dreamt about her for 10 years. It could be that she felt alone and she felt as though she had somebody with her when she loved Anakin... So you see, she desperately clung to the need/want of having somebody with her regardless of the consequences..

Meche
07-16-2002, 12:55 AM
I've heard that explanation, and as I tried to say, it's opinion. The whole thing about Amidala being all desparate and lonely, yeah I'll bet she is, but if the movie tries to suggest that that's love, then I think it's BS. To marry this guy, based on all that? It's stupidity. If she doesn't think first then she's in for it. She should know it, and so should I by now.
I'm not saying that this sort of thing doesn't happen, I hope you weren't misunderstanding me when you said you want to make it believable. I'm saying that if the movie tries to portray this as love and Amidala as smart at all then I don't find it believable. At least I know, though, that she'll learn her lesson as well...

Mann
07-16-2002, 09:53 PM
well, the reason I like Han and Leia is that the dialouge between them is so funny and touching. I wish AotC was this snappy and fun, they try but it is unnoticed. Padme is attrached to Anakin becasue, uh he's hot! Hey, I'm a guy, and I like girls (natalie portman...oh baby! ) but even I know that Hayden Christensen is a major chic magnet in this film. I mean, that's why they chose him. In everything he's been in he's played an attractive kid who gets the girls (lucky *******! ). let's face it, Natalie couldn't help it either, they dated during the filming and after.

But if you want a reason that they should love eachother, it's the Force! They are made to love eachother after Anakin starts going to the Darkside, had he not started down that path, he would have been a true Jedi, but it was the will of the force to get them to make Luke and Leia and start the whole redemption of anakin.

Alqua
07-27-2002, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Mann@July 16 2002 - 20:53

Padme is attrached to Anakin becasue, uh he's hot! Hey, I'm a guy, and I like girls (natalie portman...oh baby! ) but even I know that Hayden Christensen is a major chic magnet in this film

Funny, I'm a chic and I'm about the same age Hayden is, but I think he looks pretty stupid, and not hot at all. Ewan's far better looking, and Harrison Ford of course beats them all. But that's just one of the many reasons I like Han&Leia better style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Phantomised Menace
07-29-2002, 07:07 PM
Hah ! A chick that doesn't like Hayden ?!? Sounds too good to be true :p

Meche
07-30-2002, 08:06 PM
I don't like Hayden or Anakin either. He's really too "pretty", and Anakin is too much of a jerk.

jedi.master_ennasus
08-07-2002, 06:08 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif how can you not like anakin. Hes buff being a bad boy makes him so much buffer as well. I think leia and han are a bit cheesy sometimes. Going back to that quote 'i love you' 'i know'! But anakins eyes are so sexy and padmes so cute. They're perfect. (Except anakin goes bonkers.) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

tunafishgirl
08-16-2002, 01:15 PM
definitely han & leia. *it's believable. *amidala & anakin are too rushed. *one minute there's nothing, the next they're married. *lucas should have spent more time developing their relationship. *but, alas, no. *disappointing, but i love han & leia!

Mann
08-16-2002, 02:33 PM
What about Leia and Luke. :lol: Just kidding!

Luminara Skye
08-18-2002, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 16 2002 - 13:33
What about Leia and Luke. * Just kidding!
To quote Mark Hamill when talking about Luke's crush on Leia: *"Good news is that there is one available woman in the universe. *Bad news is she's your sister!" * style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif * *:roll:

I prefer Han & Leia's relationship over Anakin & Padme. *I'd take Han Solo over Anakin Skywalker any day of the week and twice on Sunday!! *Han's got the moves. *Anakin is psycho! *During the fireplace scene I'm thinking "fatal attraction?" *He was too creepy. * :eek: * I understand the awkwardness of the relationship. *Neither one had any experience in that sort of thing, but Anakin came on a bit too strong. *They married awfully quick, too. *Their courtship was unusual to say the least. * ???

And by the way, Hayden is cute, but he's not all that for me. *I'll take Harrison over him any time. *Not to mention Harrison is my favortie actor of all time!! * style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

Ferarri pit droid
08-18-2002, 10:57 PM
I hate to say this, but altough George is a good storyteller, he isn't that good in the romance area. If I have to choose, it would be padme and Anakin because of Natalie Portman, naturally style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

tunafishgirl
08-20-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Ferarri pit droid@Aug. 18 2002 - 21:57
I hate to say this, but altough George is a good storyteller, he isn't that good in the romance area. *
would you rather george be better in the romance area, even if that meant some other stuff would have to be cut out?

Javen
08-20-2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by tunafishgirl@Aug. 16 2002 - 12:15
definitely han & leia. *it's believable. *amidala & anakin are too rushed. *one minute there's nothing, the next they're married. *lucas should have spent more time developing their relationship. *but, alas, no. *disappointing, but i love han & leia!
Come on I could think of several rushed love themes that made tons of money,Titanic comes to mind and that long boring of a movie Pearl Harbor and millions of other movies.
What makes AOTC so different?
I see the love thing in AOTC as believable but its not my favorite in the movie and you haveto read into it what are the exact motives it seems Padme has some motives to me and at one point its as if she feels sorry for Anakin and thats when she decides she loves him.
But thats how I see it people see it 100 different ways oh well and Han and leia took awile for different reasons to.

Meche
08-22-2002, 12:56 PM
Come on I could think of several rushed love themes that made tons of money,Titanic comes to mind and that long boring of a movie Pearl Harbor and millions of other movies.
What makes AOTC so different?

That was the problem. The storyline in AotC was just as crappy and rushed as Titanic and Pearl Harbor. The fact that they made money does not make them good. Only difference is that the couple actually got married.

Feeling sorry for someone isn't love. At least not the marrying kind of love. I was pretty sure everyone has heard this warning--don't marry someone because you feel sorry for him and/or think you can change him.

Javen
08-26-2002, 07:55 PM
^I didnt say feeling sorry for someone is love.
And I didnt say it was right I agree with you
I was just saying that was how I seen it as if she fell in love with him because she felt sorry for him.
Also just because a movie makes tons of money doesnt make it good,again I agree,Spiderman made alot and I didnt think it was that great.

Luminara Skye
08-26-2002, 09:40 PM
I didn't even go see Spiderman. *I think I'll wait till it comes to HBO. :look:

Krystalsaber
09-03-2002, 02:58 AM
Anikin and padme's relatioship is Kind of weird.I like Han and Leias relationship much better, it easy to watch and there's lots of chemistry and sometimes it just funny.