COMICS: Darth Badly's Comic Shack

[cj790]

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I didn't pick it up, despite it being Morrison. Too engaged with other things right now, like still revelling in how good SW Republic #74 was, how disappointed I am with SW Obsession, and going through my recent issues of Lucifer and thinking that the series has found it's feet again style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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I actually like Obsession especially because of the easy reading.
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I don't think I like Hayden Blackman as an author - he's too simplistic for my tastes, and never really 'gets' the characters IMHO. I just don't think his versions of Ob1 and Anakin will mesh with what we see in RotS.

[Sabrina Fried]

I'm kind of on the fence with Obsession. I liked the premise of the story when I first read it, the whole "Obi-Wan goes chasing after a ghost" idea was wonderful! and the possibilities of what could be done with a story like that (you could even do one of those 'Faking Insanity' stories! And you know that would be fun) were many. But in execution its just been well, bland. I mean the art is nice, the explosions are nice, the confirmed (I hope) Death of a certain character I hate was great. But there was nothing really in this arc so far that made it stand out and left me hanging off ever page begging for more like Republic has been doing these past few months.

Maybe I've just been spoiled by too many good comics lately style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Sabrina

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Sabrina Fried@Apr 5 2005, 10:00 PM
I'm kind of on the fence with Obsession. I liked the premise of the story when I first read it, the whole "Obi-Wan goes chasing after a ghost" idea was wonderful! and the possibilities of what could be done with a story like that (you could even do one of those 'Faking Insanity' stories! And you know that would be fun) were many. But in execution its just been well, bland. I mean the art is nice, the explosions are nice, the confirmed (I hope) Death of a certain character I hate was great. But there was nothing really in this arc so far that made it stand out and left me hanging off ever page begging for more like Republic has been doing these past few months.

Maybe I've just been spoiled by too many good comics lately style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Sabrina
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It's true that Obsession is just there but with Republic being so good, it just doesn't compare.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 5 2005, 12:59 PM
On an unrelated note, you guys should read the latest issue of Adventures of Superman, it's pretty fun. It's basically what would happen if Clark and Lois had a baby.
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Agreed. The Sin City pages and the Calvin and Hobbes pages were absolutely perfect!

~JTS

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Apr 5 2005, 09:47 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Apr 5 2005, 09:47 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Sabrina Fried@Apr 5 2005, 10:00 PM
I'm kind of on the fence with Obsession. I liked the premise of the story when I first read it, the whole "Obi-Wan goes chasing after a ghost" idea was wonderful! and the possibilities of what could be done with a story like that (you could even do one of those 'Faking Insanity' stories! And you know that would be fun) were many. But in execution its just been well, bland. I mean the art is nice, the explosions are nice, the confirmed (I hope) Death of a certain character I hate was great. But there was nothing really in this arc so far that made it stand out and left me hanging off ever page begging for more like Republic has been doing these past few months.

Maybe I've just been spoiled by too many good comics lately style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Sabrina
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It's true that Obsession is just there but with Republic being so good, it just doesn't compare.
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What I think is ironic is that, at the beginning of the most recent Republic arc, a lot of people were disappointed with the story (I being an exception, I've enjoyed the entire Clone Wars run) and were really happy with Obsession. I had a feeling that public opinion would switch back to the Ostrander/Duursema team, but seems like Haden Blackman's getting the brunt of the vehemence for his storytelling (which isn't entirly bad; he's not my least favorite comic writer, but his stories just never seemed to click for me).

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

I'm heading to FP tomorrow and expect to spend money.

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[P-Ray]

GL:Rebirth #5 was fantastic for anyone interested.


BTW, Is anyone reading Batman with the mystery villian, the Red Hood? A very interesting revelation in the last one. PM me if you want a spoiler to who has been terrorizing Gotham City.

[Darth Badly]

Can you post the Batman spoiler here please, P-Ray? Maybe you could use the invisible ink method used by JTS above?

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[Darth Badly]

Just returned from FP with...


Astonishing X-Men #9

Countdown to Infinite Crisis

Three titles from Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers epic

Soldiers of Victory #0 (starts the whole thing off)
Zatanna #1
Shining Knight #1

These issues better be err... better than Manhatten Guardian #1 which is very underwhelming IMHO.

and two tpbs

Books of Magic: Life during wartime Book 1

Superman Batman: Public Enemies Book 1
(That should keep JTS happy.)



By the way they had the novel of ROTS and the lush 'Art of' book. I didn't look 'cos I didn't want to get spoiled. I never understand why, having been so secretive during production, they then release the entire story of the film a good MONTH before anyone can pay to see it.

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[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 7 2005, 08:35 PM
Can you post the Batman spoiler here please, P-Ray? Maybe you could use the invisible ink method used by JTS above?

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Or I could, having spoiled myself already...


ULTRA-SPOILER!!! DO NOT HIGHLIGHT FOR FEAR OF MEGA-SUPER SPOILERS!!!
<div onClick="openClose('ccb9dec4745a81c09289a5c649a9387b')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="ccb9dec4745a81c09289a5c649a9387b" style="display:none">The Red Hood is Jason Todd...</div>

There you go, you spoiler hounds. Don't say I didn't warn you.

~JTS

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker+Apr 7 2005, 11:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(James T. Skywalker @ Apr 7 2005, 11:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Darth Badly@Apr 7 2005, 08:35 PM
Can you post the Batman spoiler here please, P-Ray?* Maybe you could use the invisible ink method used by JTS above?

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Or I could, having spoiled myself already...


ULTRA-SPOILER!!! DO NOT HIGHLIGHT FOR FEAR OF MEGA-SUPER SPOILERS!!!
<div onClick="openClose('e8d4b341c67a9e7595f14b4619836662')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="e8d4b341c67a9e7595f14b4619836662" style="display:none">The Red Hood is Jason Todd...</div>

There you go, you spoiler hounds. Don't say I didn't warn you.

~JTS
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Thanx JTS! I don't know how to do the spoiler highlight thingy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[James T. Skywalker]

Just like bold and quote tags. Bracket the word "spoiler" and then, to end it, "/spoiler"...

~JTS

[Justin]

I doubt many people here are following that story and they practically give it away on the cover. I knew what was going to happen when I saw it on the shelf.

And what a bad cover anyway? I mean there's Batman, his eyes wide, saying "No! N-not...Y-y-y-y-y-y-y-yYOU!!!!!!!!??????" is so horribly bad. I thought they were done with cheesy covers like that back in the 80s.

This is really lame for many reasons. First of all, this character should stay dead. There is absolutley no reason for him to return, and his death adds something to the Batman mythos...to have him all of a sudden be back cheapens the story in which he died and all the stories in which his death has been referred to.

Secondly the timing is just so bad. They just did this in another recent higher-profile story arc, but thankfully things weren't what they seemed to be when it happened the first time. It was like "no way, they wouldn't!" and then we found out they didn't and breathed a sigh of relief, and now only a few months later they're pulling it again? And not even in a story that is nearly as interesting. Come on man.

I really do not like Judd Winnick at all. He is the writer that made me finally stop reading Green Lantern back in the 90s, and I don't know why I'm reading his Batman run because it's not that great, and this compounds my dislike for him.

Why would he even do this? W-w-...w-wWHHHYYYYYYYY?????!!!!!!!!??????

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker+Apr 8 2005, 05:55 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(James T. Skywalker @ Apr 8 2005, 05:55 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Darth Badly@Apr 7 2005, 08:35 PM
Can you post the Batman spoiler here please, P-Ray?* Maybe you could use the invisible ink method used by JTS above?

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Or I could, having spoiled myself already...


ULTRA-SPOILER!!! DO NOT HIGHLIGHT FOR FEAR OF MEGA-SUPER SPOILERS!!!
<div onClick="openClose('6fcc61ac7dc3e9a549fa80bbe5c200b9')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="6fcc61ac7dc3e9a549fa80bbe5c200b9" style="display:none">The Red Hood is Jason Todd...</div>

There you go, you spoiler hounds. Don't say I didn't warn you.

~JTS
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Thanks JT. When you find out the explaination for HOW?! please post that. Cheers mate.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 8 2005, 10:03 AM
This is really lame for many reasons. First of all, this character should stay dead. There is absolutley no reason for him to return, and his death adds something to the Batman mythos...to have him all of a sudden be back cheapens the story in which he died and all the stories in which his death has been referred to.


Why would he even do this? W-w-...w-wWHHHYYYYYYYY?????!!!!!!!!??????
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I agree with you completely Justin. If it really is him then that's just utter bollocks.

NB - Did you see my post about Loki in The Ultimates - answered your questions I hope.

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[James T. Skywalker]

Can't disagree with Justin, though I'm catching on to the plot a little late. However, I do like some of Judd Winick's work (Countdown primarily, though obviously it also worked because of Geoff Johns and Greg Rucka), and I'd need to catch up on this arc completely to see how this might or might not fit.

Also, I did enjoy the aforementioned story that, at one point, supposedly brought back said unnamed character but then did the bait-and-switch. But a lot of people at the DC boards don't seem to agree with the assessment of that story either.

Of course, when you look at those boards, it's not hard to see that it's just lots and lots of author bashing for no good reason. Really, they're all miffed because they think the authors are screwing with "their" characters.

Newsflash to DC posters: they ain't yours. And if you do want to make them yours, get a job and write for DC. Then, maybe, you can have a say in how their story unfolds. Until then, let the authors do their jobs and write their stories.

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

I don't quite agree with your last paragraph there, JT.

I think it's quite reasonable for folks and long time readers to express their opinions. Author bashing for the sake of it is never cool. Remember it's the readers that pay the creators wages - not the other way around. If folks don't like something they're entitled to say so. That say they should say so in a mature and reasoned way.

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[Darth Badly]

PS Could either of you guys post (in an invisible spoiler) what previous series you're talking about and who it brought back (and then didn't)? Thank you.

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[D_bot]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 8 2005, 11:53 AM
PS Could either of you guys post (in an invisible spoiler) what previous series you're talking about and who it brought back (and then didn't)? Thank you.

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I think the previous story that is being referred to is the <div onClick="openClose('5bb3da428ac94cb2ce08dd7b1a5f0647')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="5bb3da428ac94cb2ce08dd7b1a5f0647" style="display:none"> Hush story. Jason Todd appears to come back from the grave. It is later revealed that Clayface is impersonating Jason Todd.</div>

[Darth Badly]

That makes this (semi-second) come back even more lame then!

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[Darth Badly]

Just read SUPERMAN BATMAN PUBLIC ENEMIES tpb.

Am I missing something here, or is this complete rubbish?

I was really looking forward to reading it. I know a few folks here have enjoyed it. But it was just utterly silly nonsense from beginning to end.


Just a few of the problems I had with it:


1/ OK, so there's a huge asteroid heading straight towards earth. You are Presidnet of the USA so you go on TV and say "As incredible as it seems, we can only conclude it is coming here because he is here." Err... why??? Why would Superman living on Earth attact a massive asteroid billions of miles (not 'millions' as it says towards the end of the first part) towards Earth? What proof does Lex offer for this? None.

2/ OK, so the world is about to end when this asteriod smashes into the planet. Do you get all the heroes in the world together and try and do something about it - OR waste time and resources "offering a one billion dollar reward" for whoever arrests Superman so that in the few days left he can "face charges of crimes against humanity"?? Crimes for which there is absolutely NO proof at all.

3/ You are a super powered person. Do you a/ Get together with other super powered folks and try and save the world. OR b/ waste time and effort chasing Superman to try and earn the one billion dollar reward which is money you will never get to spend because the world is about to end?

4/ Everyone lets the President (Lex) get away with this. (See 1-3 above.)

5/ You are the (new) Toyman. You have (quite) a nice life living at the foot of a mountain. If the asteroid hits you will die and at the very least you will have a terrible time. Do you: a/ Therefore do your very best to save the world because you too want to live. b/ Do bugger all until paid to save the world by Batman while giving the impression that if you weren't being paid to save the world then you wouldn't bother - although clearly you will be as screwed as everyone else when the asteroid hits.

6/ Cheap Get Out Number #23 - Star Labs has info on it's computers saying that Corben (might) have been the shooter on the night that Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered. SHOCK! That implies that Star labs knows Bruce is Batman. But no, later we're told "As Superman suspected, it was planted to distract me. Even without knowing that I am Bruce Wayne, Luthor knew that Batman will not rest until that crime is solved." WHAT! How many unsolved murders must there be in Gotham each year - that alone one which is (what?) 20 to 30 years old.

I found the whole story to be very silly indeed. Utterly daft.

JTS - I'd welcome your comments on this. This is in NO way intended as a personal dig at you, my comics reading chum. I was expecting to really enjoy this tale, and was dissappointed when I didn.

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[James T. Skywalker]

I'll get to it tonight, when I've got time to hit every point.

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

Cheers JT.

I would really welcome your views. I wanted to enjoy it, honest I did.

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[Justin]

But hey, didn't you enjoy the interaction between Superman and Batman?

I suppose you could see some of those things as not making a whole lot of sense, but they thing with Luthor was that (I believe, I could be wrong here because it's been a while since I read it) that he had his own plan (i.e. Captain Atom and others on hand to stop the asteroid) but was using this as an opportunity to make everyone believe that having Superman on Earth was attracting this, that it was a weapon against him because it was made of Kryptonite and that much of Earth would be destroyed incidentally.

Also I think there was something about the asteroid being powered by something that could be diverted? I don't remember exactly.

Anyway, the reason I liked it so much was that it was basically a fun adventure with some neat interaction between Batman and Superman.

It would kind have been boring if it was just an asteroid coming to hit the Earth and everyone banded together to stop it because that's been done alot I believe.

And it would have been an "everyone is friends" story.

But seriously, how many of these other big comics that are supposedly so great have really made much sense? This Avengers thing that happened recently I've heard is kind of silly, and just off the top of my head, the Crisis on Infinite Earths major story is just a mess, in my opinion.

And Identity Crisis, which is supposed to be one of the best comics in years (ha ha) was chock full of inconsistensies.

You are right that some of the first Batman/Superman story might not be completely realistic but I really enjoyed the characters in it, and it's always cool when Batman has a big plan he executes.

The second Batman/Superman story arc, The Supergirl from Krypton is better than the first in my opinion, and the character stuff in that is better as well, even though the end is a bit cheesy. So don't give up on it.

[Darth Badly]

Hi Justin:

I did enjoy some of the interaction between Sups and Batman.

I got tired of the different coloured boxes of narrative from them though. They were very predictable I thought.

Lex is supposed to be a genius (no?) and if he wanted to convince me that his plan to frame Superman stood a chance then he needed to do more than just shout "It's all his fault" in the style of a twelve year old.

I found Batman's 'plan' very confusing. I mean the issue where they go missing (seemingly for no other reason than to have Robin etc storm the Whitehouse. Although the one thing I did love about the story was seeing Krypto smashing through a WHitehouse window - I love that crazy dog.) Anyway Robin storming the Whitehouse seemed just a filler to me. Sups says that he and Batman should have known that their chums would leap to the rescue and indeed - they should have.

As for the argument that although this story was a mess (IMHO) other stories are also often a mess so therefore its ok to expect a low standard of writing - sorry I don't buy that. I'd agree that Crisis on Infinate Earths is a bit of a mess - but the recent Avengers epic (Disassembled) was pretty good overall IMHO. Maybe it's just that I don't get on with the silly and unrealistic nature of the DC Universe and its daft and confusing narratives? I read much more Marvel as a kid.

Comments anyone?

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[Sabrina Fried]

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Sabrina

[Darth Badly]

If you've read my comments on it then you know that perhaps you should be mindful.

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[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 12 2005, 08:16 PM
It would kind have been boring if it was just an asteroid coming to hit the Earth and everyone banded together to stop it because that's been done alot I believe.


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NB I wasn't suggesting for a second that it should have been a story as you describe above which would indeed be dull and has been done before.

I would much rather have seen a proper non-silly Batman/Superman/Lex story without any giant green glowing asteroids at all.

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[D_bot]

SUPERMAN BATMAN PUBLIC ENEMIES tpb.

I'm not going to quote the entire post, but I think I can answer a few of these questions.

1. This is answered in the Vol. 2 tbp. Spoilers for those who have not read it: <div onClick="openClose('ccbd4556a725ce2ecfd4029dbade03aa')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="ccbd4556a725ce2ecfd4029dbade03aa" style="display:none"> Lex is correct, the asteroid is locked onto Superman. At the center of the asteriod is a spaceship containing Kara Zor-El, Superman's cousin, and the current Supergirl.</div>

2. Since the asteroid was locked on Superman, if he were sent to Pluto the asteroid would have been redirected. Lex's plan is to kill two birds with one asteroid.

Lex does have proof that the asteriod is locked on Superman. He doesn't share the information, because he got it from Darkseid.

3. & 4. See #2

6. How many 20 to 30 year old murders attract Batman's attention? 2, the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne. That is why the information was planted were Batman could find it.

[James T. Skywalker]

Basically, that's what I was going to say.

But don't forget that at that point in the DC universe, Pluto is no longer part of the Earth's solar system. I don't know the story of why that's the case... but it is. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by D_bot@Apr 13 2005, 05:07 PM
SUPERMAN BATMAN PUBLIC ENEMIES tpb.

I'm not going to quote the entire post, but I think I can answer a few of these questions.

1. This is answered in the Vol. 2 tbp. Spoilers for those who have not read it: <div onClick="openClose('827d32f0b04cc82b948bca4f1c236138')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="827d32f0b04cc82b948bca4f1c236138" style="display:none"> Lex is correct, the asteroid is locked onto Superman. At the center of the asteriod is a spaceship containing Kara Zor-El, Superman's cousin, and the current Supergirl.</div>

2. Since the asteroid was locked on Superman, if he were sent to Pluto the asteroid would have been redirected. Lex's plan is to kill two birds with one asteroid.

Lex does have proof that the asteriod is locked on Superman. He doesn't share the information, because he got it from Darkseid.

3. & 4. See #2

6. How many 20 to 30 year old murders attract Batman's attention? 2, the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne. That is why the information was planted were Batman could find it.
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Well the information about the asteroid being locked onto Superman is not anywhere in the six issues of the story!!

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If that backstory is true then it should have been included - without it (and even with it!?) the story is just plain daft.

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As for the last point isn't the fact that Batman interested in that murder from 25 years ago a little bit of a giveaway secret identity wise?

It is all a bit silly.

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[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Apr 13 2005, 05:18 PM
Basically, that's what I was going to say.

But don't forget that at that point in the DC universe, Pluto is no longer part of the Earth's solar system. I don't know the story of why that's the case... but it is. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

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WHAT!!?

How is Pluto not being part of the solar sytem related to this story??

Secondly how on earth am I supposed to know that Pluto has gone AWOL if it's not mention at all in the story!

This is bollocks of the highest order!

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[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Sabrina Fried@Apr 13 2005, 03:55 PM
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Sabrina
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Now I've had it explained to me, trust me you really don't wanna know.

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[D_bot]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Apr 13 2005, 09:18 AM
Basically, that's what I was going to say.

But don't forget that at that point in the DC universe, Pluto is no longer part of the Earth's solar system. I don't know the story of why that's the case... but it is. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

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IIRC, Pluto became Warworld sometime around the Our Worlds at War story.

[Darth Badly]

What importance is that to the PUBLIC ENEMIES storyline? Could you please explain?

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[D_bot]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 13 2005, 12:20 PM
What importance is that to the PUBLIC ENEMIES storyline? Could you please explain?

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It doesn't play a part of the story at all.

The part of OUR WORLDS AT WAR that relates to PUBLIC ENEMIES is that during OUR WORLDS AT WAR Lex made a deal with Darkseid, so that Darkseid would help save the Earth. Lex gave up Doomsday, and promised to give up Supergirl in exchange for Darkseid's help.

[Darth Badly]

OK, thanks for the info D_bot.

JTS posted mentioning Pluto so I thought it was something that was being said in defense of PUBLIC ENEMIES.

Guys - All this stuff is interesting (if a bit bonkers) but it doesn't make me like PUBLIC ENEMIES anymore than I said in my original post.

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[D_bot]

For those that want to keep up with Infinite Crisis....

http://www.dccomics.com/features/countdown/index.php

[brookie]

aww man all this DC stuff is going right over my head! as is the avengers talk! hahahha

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by brookie@Apr 13 2005, 09:14 PM
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It's going right over mine too.

I thought PUBLIC ENEMIES (the first collection of the SUPERMAN BATMAN title) would be a nice stand alone story but no it's not only utter bollocks (!) but also totally obsessed with typical DC silliness.

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[Justin]

In your opinion. I thought it was fun, and I liked the second arc even more.

As far as our arguments changing your mind ; I don't think that's what we are trying to do here. You said you welcomed our opinions so we're saying why we liked it.

Plus, I don't get this "typical DC silliness." I guess everyone should always go around moping about the trials of their lives and how everything sucks for them and everyone hates them and they can't catch a break wah wah why me, God? Because that's what most of the Marvel Universe that I have read is all about.

And they aren't without their crazy "include everyone" stories either. Secret Wars, anyone? Which, in my opinion, is absolutley horrible and makes Crisis look like Shakespeare.

But that doesn't mean I don't like some stories published by Marvel, and I really like the Ultimate stuff (well most of it- Ultimate Nightmare sucked like crazy) and I don't go around saying Marvel sucks because it publishes a lot of stories I don't like and I don't let it color my attitude towards it or make me say "I'll stick with the superheroes I grew up reading, thank you!"

Sorry I went off on a tangent there but that's for another discussion.

If Superman/Batman: Public Enemies wasn't to your liking then that's ok. I personally enjoyed it a lot and had no problem following it. We're all entitled to our own opinions, and they're just that: opinions. I thought it was good. You thought it was bad.

I thought Avengers: Dissasembled was a quagmire that started too quickly and didn't make any sense to me, but you enjoyed it. You thought Superman/Batman was a load of bollocks that didn't make sense to you, but I enjoyed it.

There isn't any way to prove either of us wrong because they are both our opinions.

If you want to read a really cool story from DC, check out Batman: Bruce Wayne - Murderer? It has none of the trappings of DC "events" that you obviously dislike - it's just a great murder mystery and it's fantastically written by Greg Rucka.

In my opinion it's one of the best Batman stories that's ever been published, and I've read quite a few.

[Justin]

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[James T. Skywalker]

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Agreed, though Badly does make a good point, even if he doesn't realize it...

You do have to know a little bit of background in the DC history to understand what's happening now with Infinite Crisis and a lot of the recent stuff. That's why I've been picking up a lot of the TPBs recently, or flipping through them at my local bookstore.

A lot of information to take in... I finally found the story of when Hal Jordan/Parallex "died" today, though I didn't buy it.

Man, lots of stories to read... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

~JTS

[Justin]

This is one thing that will make it difficult for new readers to get Green lantern: Rebirth.

Basically, because it's a MAJOR retcon that's designed to untangle a horribly tangled knot of continuity, there are a lot of things that have to be addressed for continuity's sake, so it will be confusing at best for new readers to get it.

Personally, I really am enjoying Rebirth because Green Lantern is one of my all-time favorite characters and spent at least 10 years or more of my life reading the title.

The first comic book I ever bought was a ragged issue of Green Lantern I got out of a pile of old comics at a flee market just because the cover was cool (it had Green Lantern suspended in some energy field inside a glass case, and this big giant yellow space-serpent thing was about to chomp him) when I was nine.

Then this crap of arbitrarily making him a nutso psycho bad guy because the title wasn't selling well was a kick in the nuts

- And here's another thing, how come when a book isn't selling as well as it used to do they have to kill characters or make them villains? Why not just hire a new writer to write good stories and promote the new creative force behind it instead of promising "NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME!!!! SEE WHO LIVES AND DIES!!!! WE'LL STOP AT NOTHING FOR YOUR CASH, YOU SUCKAS!!!" -

and was a total betrayal of the character (Hal Jordan) and everything he had stood for for 30 years. It was just like "what the hell?" So Rebirth is euphoric to me because they're cleaning off where they crapped on my childhood. And it's a pretty cool story if you're familiar with Green Lantern enough to know what the hell is going on, lol.

Anyway, all you need to know is that Hal Jordan is Green Lantern from now on, so if you aren't a Green Lantern fan it's probably best to skip Rebirth and just pick up the ongoing monthly, because they will be picking up fresh.

It makes sense that they did Rebirth as a miniseries instead of making it the first part of the new ongoing title, because they're getting all the crap out of the way so it won't clutter up the monthly.

Although I should probably be using past tense, since Rebirth is almost over.

[Darth Badly]

Justin - JTS - No offense intended over my DC remarks.


Marvel certainly publishes their fair share of bollocks - no argument there.

I think I was particularly dissappointed with PUBLIC ENEMIES because you guys had been saying how good it was and I had thought (wrongly) that it was a stand alone series ie a new series designed to appeal to me someone who is not a regular reader of the Sups/Bats monthlys and doesn't know the ins and outs of them. Sadly this wasn't the case - as you've both said quite a lot of knowledge was needed to make more (?) sense out of things. The same can of course be said of many Marvel titles - so I'm not saying it's DC' fault for that,, only had I realised how much of the back story to PUBLIC ENEMIES needed to be read/understood BEFORE attempting to read that then I probably would have given it a miss.

I appreciate you both taking the time to explain things.

Justin - I agree with your comments re them screwing up Green Latern completely. You would think that getting better fresh writers would be the answer to falling sales, wouldn't you? Not screwing up the character.

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[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 14 2005, 04:13 AM
In your opinion. I thought it was fun, and I liked the second arc even more.



If Superman/Batman: Public Enemies wasn't to your liking then that's ok. I personally enjoyed it a lot and had no problem following it. We're all entitled to our own opinions, and they're just that: opinions. I thought it was good. You thought it was bad.


There isn't any way to prove either of us wrong because they are both our opinions.


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Absolutely - it's all just opinions, matey.

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[Justin]

I don't know, it didn't really occur to me while reading Superman/Batman that I was armed with some information that would make it bemore sensible. If that was the case it was completely subliminal to me because I don't remember thinking "oh yeah, they're doing this because I read/heard about this other thing a while back!" I just thought it was a fun story about Superman and Batman teaming up. I'm definitely not an expert on DC lore.

Incidentally let me explain my biggest gripe with Identity Crisis; it was ridiculous that everyone knew everyone else's secret identity.

Everyone kept saying "if it was Lois, Clark would have wanted the first punch!" But as far as I know, the only superheroes who know Superman's secret identity are Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman. And maybe the Martian Manhunter (who is awesome and should have his own book).

And how in the world would the Atom's wife know Robin's secret identity? There's absolutley no way. The Atom doesn't even know his identity, I think Superman is the only one Batman trusts enough to let in on all his secrets.

On another note I seriously hope DC will stop using the word Crisis in all of it's big event stories. In fact, I would really like it if DC and Marvel would stop doing big continuity-wide event stories.

Badly, if you buy the Bruce Wayne: Murderer TPB I will pay for it because I seriously want to know what you think of it. Or if you want I will send you my copies of it and the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive TPBs which follow it and buy another set for myself, lol.

I honestly believe it's one of the absolute best Batman stories ever.

No Man's Land was also fantastic, and I had resisted that for ages before buying the first volume because it was so sprawling, but it ended up being worth it.

[James T. Skywalker]

Agreed, definitely read No Man's Land and the Bruce Wayne: Murderer?/Fugitive stories.

And Justin, I haven't been able to read all of GL:R, but I did read the issue where Ollie had one of the GL rings... I just thought that was perfect...

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

Thanks for the offer Justin. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif

I'll see if I can got hold of it in FP.

BTW - in a spoiler free way - what is NO MAN'S LAND?


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[Talcy]

No Man's Land is a year long story arc through all of the Bat titles.

Gotham is hit by an absolutely giant earthquake and is decimated and left in ruins. It is preceded by the title Cataclysm.

The government declares Gotham out of bounds - no one is allowed in and no one is allowed to leave, on pain of death. The city is basically no longer considered a part of the USA.

A lot of characters appear to take advantage of the situation, giving some nice little moments of depth to some of them.

It has a pretty big ending too.

Recommended.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Talcy@Apr 15 2005, 02:34 PM
No Man's Land is a year long story arc through all of the Bat titles.

Gotham is hit by an absolutely giant earthquake and is decimated and left in ruins. It is preceded by the title Cataclysm.

The government declares Gotham out of bounds - no one is allowed in and no one is allowed to leave, on pain of death. The city is basically no longer considered a part of the USA.


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My problem (and this is just me) is that straight away I don't believe in the basis of the story. Destroying a whole city? It's too much. Too silly.

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[Justin]

Why? It's not like it's something that can't possibly happen. Entire cities being destroyed by earthquakes, floods and volcaninc eruptions is something that has happened numerous times throughout history.

And there are all these dire warnings about much of the west coast of California (including San Fransisco and LA) possibly being completely destroyed in an earthquake. So it is in the realm of possibility.

Also, it's not the ENTIRE city that gets destroyed, but enough of it to really make life miserable for the people that live there and far too costly for the government to rebuild it.

It's a very good story with a very satisfying conclusion. The only downside for some is that it is so long so it's kind of expensive to buy all the TPBs (I think there are about nine volumes, lol).

Greg Rucka wrote a great novelization of it which I believe is still available.

[Darth Badly]

A city being destroyed by an earthquake could happen, sure. But the government disowning it and shooting people who try to leave??

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Why would Superman let that happen??

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[RollaFett]

You're right about the novel being available, Justin. I saw it a couple of years ago and decided not to get it. I dunno, it just didn't feel like a Batman tale to me. Just too crazy, I suppose. Of course, I didn't read it, so I really have no idea if it was over the top.
That said, spaeking of Batman novels, here is a really good one, "Batman- The Ulitmate Evil" by Andrew Vachss. It's been a good 9 or 10 years since I read this so I cannot provide a summary without quoting the summary from the book itself, so here it is:
"Viewed from Above, Gotham City by night resembles nothing so much as a ribbon of diamonds on a pad of deep, rich. black velvet. But in the heart of Gotham's darkness glow the cold garish neon of thesex industry, the feverish eyes of desperate drug addicts, the streetlights creating shadows in which muggers patiently wait. This is where Batman's most personal-- and most savage-- battle begins. But the fire-zone will shift to thousands of miles and many continents away.
In this battle, Batman will be driven into a vortex of violence so profound that those who survive lose their souls. Now the night-rider must reach deeep within himself to summon the superhuman strength he needs to fight the most vicious and remoreseless enemies he has ever faced...those who traffic in the flesh of children."

I remember really being a bit disturbed by this book, but also realizing that this really would be the type of battle that Batman would be invloved in if he were a living being.
Like I typed earlier, it's written by Andrew Vachss and it was published by Warner Books but on the spine it also has the title, 'Aspect' on it. It's 10 years old and I have the first edition hardback, but that's just me showing off. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Badly]

Thanks for the tip, Mr G.

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[RollaFett]

Your very welcome. In fact, I could send you my copy if you like. To borrow, of course, as I cannot 'burn' a copy like a CD unfortunately.

[Darth Badly]

NEWS...

Ultimates Vol 2 #5 is in shops this week.

Below is a preview of the cover of NEW AVENGERS #6 - which apparently sees the entire team together and sets the stage for the future.

Also so minor 'V' news... (World War II ??)

Portman wows German crew with language skills
IMDB, WENN
March 23, 2005

Actress Natalie Portman impressed everyone on the Berlin set of her latest film V For Vendetta when she started speaking fluent German. Unlike many actors, who would be silenced by the language barrier, linguistic Portman, 23, immediately started communicating in the native language. A source says, "She just turned up one day talking German. It has made her very popular with the Germans on the crew." The Star Wars actress, educated at top American university Harvard, is fluent in Hebrew, French and Japanese, as well as German.

V For Vendetta explores how different life would be if Germany had won World War II.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Darth Badly+Apr 15 2005, 09:51 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Badly @ Apr 15 2005, 09:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Talcy@Apr 15 2005, 02:34 PM
No Man's Land is a year long story arc through all of the Bat titles.

Gotham is hit by an absolutely giant earthquake and is decimated and left in ruins. It is preceded by the title Cataclysm.

The government declares Gotham out of bounds - no one is allowed in and no one is allowed to leave, on pain of death. The city is basically no longer considered a part of the USA.


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My problem (and this is just me) is that straight away I don't believe in the basis of the story. Destroying a whole city? It's too much. Too silly.

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Here's the thing: Gotham's on the East Coast, and they've never prepared for the possibility of a quake. The only buildings in Gotham City that were earthquake-proofed (for up to an 8.5 on the Richter scale) were buildings built and owned by Wayne Industries. Funny thing, though: while Bruce Wayne's company was able to quake-proof their buildings, he wasn't able to quakeproof Wayne Manor, and it was destroyed as a result of the earthquake (which registered at 7.5 on the Richter scale, and whose epicenter was just 10 miles from downtown Gotham).

Trust me, it's an extremely well conceived and well planned story, as is Cataclysm (the actual story of the earthquake). I still need to find the collection (which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist) where Bruce goes to Washington to request federal help but the government turns him down and declares Gotham to be a no man's land.

Oh, and the reason why the government keeps people in Gotham is because those that were left chose to stay, even though the feds said that they had to leave. That's why they're not allowed out, because they broke the law and disobeyed a federal mandate.

~JTS

[Justin]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 15 2005, 06:01 PM
A city being destroyed by an earthquake could happen, sure. But the government disowning it and shooting people who try to leave??

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Why would Superman let that happen??

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They don't shoot people who try to leave, they have mines in the water or something.

You're right that that is a bit of a stretch, but beyond that it is a great story. And Superman does make an appearance, dropping in food and things like that.

GF, the book is really good because it's basically the most important points of the story, so it's worth reading. It's probably available in paperback now.

I too was not at all interested in No Man's Land for a long time and didn't read it while it was running because I'm usually opposed to big crossovers, and I just wasn't interested in the premise. But my Mom bought the novel for me one Christmas and I thought it was awesome. I finally broke down and bought all the TPBs recently and it was worth it, in my opinion.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker+Apr 16 2005, 07:47 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(James T. Skywalker @ Apr 16 2005, 07:47 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 15 2005, 09:51 AM
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No Man's Land is a year long story arc through all of the Bat titles.

Gotham is hit by an absolutely giant earthquake and is decimated and left in ruins. It is preceded by the title Cataclysm.

The government declares Gotham out of bounds - no one is allowed in and no one is allowed to leave, on pain of death. The city is basically no longer considered a part of the USA.


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My problem (and this is just me) is that straight away I don't believe in the basis of the story. Destroying a whole city? It's too much. Too silly.

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Here's the thing: Gotham's on the East Coast, and they've never prepared for the possibility of a quake. The only buildings in Gotham City that were earthquake-proofed (for up to an 8.5 on the Richter scale) were buildings built and owned by Wayne Industries. Funny thing, though: while Bruce Wayne's company was able to quake-proof their buildings, he wasn't able to quakeproof Wayne Manor, and it was destroyed as a result of the earthquake (which registered at 7.5 on the Richter scale, and whose epicenter was just 10 miles from downtown Gotham).

Trust me, it's an extremely well conceived and well planned story, as is Cataclysm (the actual story of the earthquake). I still need to find the collection (which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist) where Bruce goes to Washington to request federal help but the government turns him down and declares Gotham to be a no man's land.

Oh, and the reason why the government keeps people in Gotham is because those that were left chose to stay, even though the feds said that they had to leave. That's why they're not allowed out, because they broke the law and disobeyed a federal mandate.

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In general I prefer smaller scale character based stories - like the current run on say The Ultimates. The things I like in a comic book are the things I like anywhere - characters and story. I'm not a natural fan of stories involving asteroids and earthquakes as their basis. I find the scale too big and the idea just silly. Sorry - but that's still the case with how you guys describe the above stories - mines in the water! Superman dropping in food but allowing them to put mines in the water! I'm sure it's all grand in a DC way, but I don't think I could handle it!

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[James T. Skywalker]

Superman doesn't interfere because he knows that it is Batman's city. Just like Batman doesn't interfere with Superman and his stuff, unless it's something that affects the whole world.

~JTS

[BobPalpatine]

There is more than one issue dealing with Superman and how he wants to help Gotham....

No Man's Land is one of my favorite Batman arc's ever. It is much better than War Games which went on last year. The thing about No Man's Land is that you get to see these characters in different light. You get to see how they hold up to extreme pressure over a long enough time.

[Justin]

Yeah, No Man's Land is character based. It's about how Batman, his associates in Gotham, and the GCPD deal with the situation of being in their city which has been decimated. It's very good. Especially the part with the Joker at the end.

That was cool how they saved the Joker for the very last part of the story instead of putting him up front like you would expect.

In fact, that is one of the best Joker stories in my opinion. Pretty intense.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 16 2005, 11:17 PM
That was cool how they saved the Joker for the very last part of the story instead of putting him up front like you would expect.

In fact, that is one of the best Joker stories in my opinion. Pretty intense.
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Oh yeah, this and The Killing Joke were probably two of the best Joker stories of the Modern Age comics.

EDIT: I'd add that I haven't read A Death in the Family yet, so that may also be well up on the list as well.

~JTS

[brookie]

yep right over the head wwwwwooooooooosssssshhhhhh!

[cj790]

I loved the Killing Joke - best Bats story I have read...

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Apr 16 2005, 06:37 PM
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So Superman is happy to stand by and watch innocent people die just because it's Batman's city? That's the kind of thing I can't handle.

[Darth Badly]

[quote=Justin,Apr 16 2005, 11:17 PM]That was cool how they saved the Joker for the very last part of the story instead of putting him up front like you would expect.



EDIT: I'd add that I haven't read A Death in the Family yet, so that may also be well up on the list as well.

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I read DEATH IN THE FAMILY as it came out - it was pretty weak IMHO. The only thing of any note was the actual death - which just took one line from Frank Millar's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS intended as a throw away line and made it real.

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[Justin]

Originally posted by Darth Badly+Apr 17 2005, 07:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Badly @ Apr 17 2005, 07:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-James T. Skywalker@Apr 16 2005, 06:37 PM
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So Superman is happy to stand by and watch innocent people die just because it's Batman's city? That's the kind of thing I can't handle.
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Well unfortunately they just can't get around it. Since Superman and Batman exist in the same continuity unfortunately there would be no way to tell the story unless they just have him not be around somehow.

I do agree with you that realistically Superman would have done more for the people. Although you have to remember that he was basically breaking the law by being involved in the first place. And the people there chose to stay (there were only maybe a few hundred, most left).

Basically you just have to put Superman out of your mind, but it is really a fabulous story.

When you think about it, Superman would be involved in a lot of things that happen in the DC universe in other character's books, but for the sake of those stories they just can't have him involved. The same is probably true for some Marvel characters, I believe.

You should still check out Bruce Wayne: Murderer? because it doesn't have those kinds of problems, it is on a much smaller scale.

[Justin]

[quote=Justin,Apr 16 2005, 11:17 PM]That was cool how they saved the Joker for the very last part of the story instead of putting him up front like you would expect.



EDIT: I'd add that I haven't read A Death in the Family yet, so that may also be well up on the list as well.

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I read DEATH IN THE FAMILY as it came out - it was pretty weak IMHO. The only thing of any note was the actual death - which just took one line from Frank Millar's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS intended as a throw away line and made it real.

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I agree with you that A Death in the Family wasn't that great, but some of it was pretty good. I thought it was a good thing that they tied it to The Dark Knight Returns (although I only liked the first half of that story).

[Darth Badly]

Just back from FP with (among other things) the new issue of The Ultimates (Vol 2 #5).

Will post full list ASAP.

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[Darth Badly]

Here's the update on what I bought:

The Ultimates Vol 2 #5 - continuing the group's Loki fueled confrontation with the Thunder God.

Young Avengers #3 - another surprising good read (to an Avenger's reader)

Amazing Spider-Man #519 which follows Spidey (and MJ & Aunt May) into the world of the New Avengers.

Klarion the Witchboy #1 - Grant Morrison (part of his massive Seven Soldiers project)

Daredevil 'Golden Age' Vol 11 tpb collecting DD #66-70

Thor tpb - Thor Dissassembled

The Sentry tpb collecting the entire Sentry series written by Paul Jenkins from a couple of years ago. I hadn't read this and wanted to catch up with the character now he's an Avenger. It's a pretty good series (been reading it tonight) although it does draw a lot of its insperation from Alan Moore's MarvelMan series.

Also got VERTIGO: FIRST TASTE - a tpb collection of the first issues of some well known and respected Vertigo titles.

This is 168 pages of comics for $4.99 (£3.20) and features the first issues of:
DEATH: The High Cost of Living (Gaimen)
SWAMP THING (Moore's first real issue where he rewrites Swampy's origin)
TRANSMETROPOLITAN (Ellis)
Y: THE LAST MAN (and his monkey)
100 BULLETS
BOOKS OF MAGIC: LIFE DURING WARTIME

A good chance to catch up with a few of those that I haven't read.

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[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 23 2005, 09:49 PM
Here's the update on what I bought:
Young Avengers #3 - another surprising good read (to an Avenger's reader)
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I am really really enjoying this book! Are you?

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Apr 25 2005, 03:12 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Apr 25 2005, 03:12 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Darth Badly@Apr 23 2005, 09:49 PM
Here's the update on what I bought:
Young Avengers #3 - another surprising good read (to an Avenger's reader)
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I am really really enjoying this book! Are you?
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Hey P-Ray
Yep - as I said in my post above yours, I'm finding it to be a surprisingly good read (for an Avengers fan) I didn't expect to get past the first issue.

I read the first issue of Y: The Last Man at the weekend. Realy enjoyed that too. I know someone here is a keen reader of it but can't remember who (Brookie??). What kind of direction do the future issues take?

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[BobPalpatine]

Y the Last Man basically just has Yorrick trying to make his way across the country and survive. To say much else would give away too much of the plot. I can't remember what issue I just read but they just reavealed why Yorrick survives the plague. Keep reading on you will enjoy it.

[Justin]

Yeah, Y the Last Man rules.

[brookie]

anyone reading DAMN NATION? blake, you would really enjoy this one.

isuues #1 and #2 are out now. although i do believe that it is hard to find in some areas.

[Darth Badly]

Might get the first couple of tpbs of Y The Last Man next trip to FP.

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[BobPalpatine]

Originally posted by brookie@Apr 25 2005, 10:39 PM
anyone reading DAMN NATION? blake, you would really enjoy this one.

isuues #1 and #2 are out now. although i do believe that it is hard to find in some areas.
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What's it about?

[brookie]

a barge comes into one of americas ports (i cant remember which one) and all a board are dead, and it appears that zombies will be present!

[brookie]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 26 2005, 06:27 AM
Might get the first couple of tpbs of Y The Last Man next trip to FP.

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[cj790]

Everyone I know at some point recommends Y the Last Man to me...

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[Darth Badly]

cj - check out the super-value Vertigo sampler that I got (see above.)

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[Darth Badly]

PS Brookie - I saw last week that there was a tpb of THE MILKMAN MURDERS out. I didn't get it because of the let down of the last part.

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[cj790]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 26 2005, 09:38 PM
cj - check out the super-value Vertigo sampler that I got (see above.)

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Sady I own all the other issues in the collection (apart from Transmet, but I'm not keen on Warren Ellis), so £5 for one issue sounds a bit too rich for my blood right now.
I think I'll scan a trade in my comic shop at some point style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Maybe when Lucifer ends... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Darth Badly]

It was £3.50 rather than £5, but if you've got the rest then fair play.

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[James T. Skywalker]

I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS

[Darth Badly]

I nearly bought the first issue of the OMAC Project, but I didn't wanna get into the whole four series things.

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[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Apr 28 2005, 05:38 AM
I nearly bought the first issue of the OMAC Project, but I didn't wanna get into the whole four series things.

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From all accounts, they're pretty independent from each other, the only relation being that they spun off from the Countdown issue. For instance, I bought Day of Vengeance #1 and it makes absolutely no mention of the OMAC project, or the Rann-Thanagar war, or any of the villains in Villains United.

They're all stand-alone series, but they will all relate directly to Infinte Crisis this fall.

~JTS

[brookie]

you guys really need to check out "elks run" , only one issue is out, but youll be hooked when your done reading.

dont even want to go into what its about, just check it out!

[Darth Badly]

Who's it published by, Brookie?

[Justin]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Apr 28 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS
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O.M.A.C. Project was good. Sasha Bordaeux from Bruce Wayne: Murderer? is in it.

And please don't say "owns, owned, or own you" or any other variation on that term or I will be forced to kill you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bye.gif

[P-Ray]

Hey Badly...was it you who decided to change the thread name?

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin+Apr 28 2005, 01:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ Apr 28 2005, 01:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-James T. Skywalker@Apr 28 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS
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O.M.A.C. Project was good. Sasha Bordaeux from Bruce Wayne: Murderer? is in it.

And please don't say "owns, owned, or own you" or any other variation on that term or I will be forced to kill you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bye.gif
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I know, I read the five preview pages on the DC website. I need that comic.

And yeah, I don't normally use that phraseology, but it fit in this case. I loved Dark Victory; not quite as much as The Long Halloween, which is definitely my favorite Batman story that I've read, but it's a close, close second (or rather, and more accurately with how they are related, it's 1 and 1A).

~JTS

[BobPalpatine]

Originally posted by Justin+Apr 28 2005, 02:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ Apr 28 2005, 02:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-James T. Skywalker@Apr 28 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS
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O.M.A.C. Project was good. Sasha Bordaeux from Bruce Wayne: Murderer? is in it.

And please don't say "owns, owned, or own you" or any other variation on that term or I will be forced to kill you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bye.gif
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Dude it totally pwn'd me! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohwell.gif

[Justin]

Originally posted by BobPalpatine+Apr 29 2005, 12:45 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BobPalpatine @ Apr 29 2005, 12:45 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Justin@Apr 28 2005, 02:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-James T. Skywalker@Apr 28 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS
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O.M.A.C. Project was good. Sasha Bordaeux from Bruce Wayne: Murderer? is in it.

And please don't say "owns, owned, or own you" or any other variation on that term or I will be forced to kill you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bye.gif
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Dude it totally pwn'd me! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohwell.gif
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You *******! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Justin+Apr 28 2005, 03:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ Apr 28 2005, 03:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-James T. Skywalker@Apr 28 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm f-ing mad that I didn't get a copy of the first issue of The O.M.A.C. Project, but they're shipping it again soon. I did pick up Day of Vengance #1 today, and I've been on a TPB spree the past week that I've been away.

Batman: Dark Victory absolutely owns. Jeph Loeb should have written more Batman-family centric stuff.

~JTS
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O.M.A.C. Project was good.

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Was it? Can you expound(?) a little on the story because I wasn't sure if I was going to get this or not. You may help me change my mind.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by P-Ray@Apr 29 2005, 03:01 AM
Hey Badly...was it you who decided to change the thread name?
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Yeah, it was me. it might change back again. Or it might be your name there next!

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PS Yeah, I second the request from P-Ray a little story summary of OMAC would be great. Thank you.

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[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Darth Badly+Apr 29 2005, 07:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Badly @ Apr 29 2005, 07:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-P-Ray@Apr 29 2005, 03:01 AM
Hey Badly...was it you who decided to change the thread name?
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Yeah, it was me. it might change back again. Or it might be your name there next!

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PS Yeah, I second the request from P-Ray a little story summary of OMAC would be great. Thank you.

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I went ahead and bought it today but I haven't read it yet. It supposed to continue right from the 80 page Countdown book. Sorry...that's all I know so far.

[Justin]

Well you can't really give a summary of it without giving away what happens in Countdown, although I personally wish it had turned out differently.

However, the detective story that the O.M.A.C. Project is shaping up to be is pretty good, and Greg Rucka is great at writing detective stories.

[cj790]

Just read the new SW Republic - Gah!!!

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by cj790@Apr 30 2005, 01:37 PM
Just read the new SW Republic - Gah!!!
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Is that good or bad? I haven't read it yet.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin@Apr 29 2005, 09:17 PM
Well you can't really give a summary of it without giving away what happens in Countdown, although I personally wish it had turned out differently.

However, the detective story that the O.M.A.C. Project is shaping up to be is pretty good, and Greg Rucka is great at writing detective stories.
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If you like Rucka, there's a great interview with him on the Superman Homepage (supermanhomepage.com).

~JTS

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Apr 30 2005, 01:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Apr 30 2005, 01:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-cj790@Apr 30 2005, 01:37 PM
Just read the new SW Republic - Gah!!!
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Is that good or bad? I haven't read it yet.
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I read it and it was good!

BTW, New Avengers #5 was awesome again, IMO! Great book!

[Justin]

"Yep, we're naked." style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

New Avengers has gotten better. It wasn't that great at first, in my opinion.

Another series that started out not-so-great but improved drastically is the new Legion of Superheroes.

[cj790]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Apr 30 2005, 06:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Apr 30 2005, 06:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-cj790@Apr 30 2005, 01:37 PM
Just read the new SW Republic - Gah!!!
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Is that good or bad? I haven't read it yet.
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It was great! But also, in some ways, bad - hence the 'Gah!'

I definately recommend you read it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Badly]

New Avengers #5 was good fun. (Not sure about the rouge Shield agent deciding to kill Cap et al though? Seemed a bit unlikely and extreme.)

Bought tpb of the first parts of Y- The Last Man.

Also picked up a hardback of Grant Morrison's New X-Men for a tenner.

What are the rest of you reading?

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[Darth Badly]

A preview of the cover for NEW AVENGERS #6 out next...

[P-Ray]

^Most Impressive!

[brookie]

anyone go to free comic book day?

i got the free SW comic which sucked!!!

and OMG, i know cj has read this one, but the new Republic comic was freaking AWSOME!!!!!!

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by brookie@May 10 2005, 03:26 PM
anyone go to free comic book day?

i got the free SW comic which sucked!!!
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Was there only one free one and if so what was it?

Originally posted by brookie@May 10 2005, 03:26 PM
and OMG, i know cj has read this one, but the new Republic comic was freaking AWSOME!!!!!!
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Yes it was!

[Otis_Frampton]

Time to plug . . .

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Issue #2 of my comic, "Oddly Normal" hits comic shops tomorrow. If you like "The Wizard of Oz" or "Kiki's Delivery Service", you'll most likely enjoy "Oddly Normal".

For a preview of issue #1, head over to Viper Comics!

http://vipercomics.com/features/oddly_normal.asp

Thanks for reading!

-Otis

[bluemilk]

I'm going to try and buy it, err both of 'em! I wonder if I can find those up in Canada? hmm...

[Otis_Frampton]

Thanks, Zanita (yep, still calling you that).

But all you have to do if your local comic shop doesn't carry a title is ask them to order it. Then they'll get copis for you, and maybe even start carrying it regularly.

-Otis

[bluemilk]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks, Zanita (yep, still calling you that).
But all you have to do if your local comic shop doesn't carry a title is ask them to order it. Then they'll get copis for you, and maybe even start carrying it regularly.

-Otis
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hmm good point. There are 2 real cool geeks that run a comic shop close to me and they offered one time to get Nathan's Tales #21 for me. I'm not part of the comic shop "crowd" but I'm fairly resourceful so I should be able to rummage them up style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Zanita still eh? yousa crazy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohwell.gif

[James T. Skywalker]

I picked up Action Comics #825, Adventures of Superman #39 and Superman #216, the "Lightning Strikes" series that leads into the Countdown to Infinite Crisis spin-off mini-series Day of Vengeance. All good reads.

Plan to pick up the Rann-Thanagar War #1 and the DoV JSA tie-in issue this week as well.

Still need to get O.M.A.C. Project #1...

~JTS

[brookie]

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well there were a bunch of free comics, but there was only one free SW comic.

[BobPalpatine]

Originally posted by Otis_Frampton@May 10 2005, 09:02 PM
Time to plug . . .

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Issue #2 of my comic, "Oddly Normal" hits comic shops tomorrow. If you like "The Wizard of Oz" or "Kiki's Delivery Service", you'll most likely enjoy "Oddly Normal".

For a preview of issue #1, head over to Viper Comics!

http://vipercomics.com/features/oddly_normal.asp

Thanks for reading!

-Otis
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I read the preview awhile ago and enjoyed it. I need to get up off my lazy arse and go into the comic book store again and order your stuff.

[Justin]

All the comics I bought at free comic day last year sucked so I didn't bother getting any this time around.

[Sabrina Fried]

I got the new SW FCBD comic only because my local Comic Shop Guy saved a copy for me and insisted I take it. It was ok, not the best SW comic I have ever read, but not the worst. It was pretty much what I expected from a 28 page standalone story that was targeted towards new SW readers.

Sabrina

[brookie]

Originally posted by Justin@May 11 2005, 12:31 AM
All the comics I bought at free comic day last year sucked so I didn't bother getting any this time around.
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yeah the free ones do pretty much suck, except for this one manga preview i got. that was awsome!

[cj790]

Got some free comics, haven't read any yet.
Got the SW one, some samurai one, something indie-looking called 'flight', and a GI Joe one style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[James T. Skywalker]

Picked up the Superman TPB "Wrath of Gog" (Action Comics) and the Star Wars TPB "Heart of the Rebellion" (Empire). Also picked up the first issue of the Rann-Thanagar War and JSA #73.

~JTS

[P-Ray]

Does anyone know if "War Games" out in TPB yet?

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by P-Ray@May 12 2005, 09:17 AM
Does anyone know if "War Games" out in TPB yet?
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Nevermind! I stopped my laziness and checked on the DC site myself.

[BobPalpatine]

Did everyone see that DC has a new logo?

[Darth Badly]

Yep.

[Justin]

No I didn't. That's too bad.

I think I'm going to stop reading Star Wars Tales. The stories have gotten kind of dull and I'm not happy with Jeremy Barlow's editorial decisions.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin@May 13 2005, 04:14 PM
No I didn't. That's too bad.

I think I'm going to stop reading Star Wars Tales. The stories have gotten kind of dull and I'm not happy with Jeremy Barlow's editorial decisions.
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There's only one more issue of the series, anyway. The series will be finished after issue #24.

~JTS

[brookie]

Originally posted by Justin@May 13 2005, 06:14 PM
No I didn't. That's too bad.

I think I'm going to stop reading Star Wars Tales. The stories have gotten kind of dull and I'm not happy with Jeremy Barlow's editorial decisions.
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i have no idea why they changed the format in the first place. i like it and all, i mean ill read ANY SW comic regardless, but i really enjoyed the old TALES.

[Justin]

I think it was just a subjective thing. I think he became the editor and said "well I don't like how this is going so I'm going to change it" even though most of us were happy with it the way it was.

[Justin]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker+May 13 2005, 07:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(James T. Skywalker @ May 13 2005, 07:54 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Justin@May 13 2005, 04:14 PM
No I didn't.* That's too bad.

I think I'm going to stop reading Star Wars Tales.* The stories have gotten kind of dull and I'm not happy with Jeremy Barlow's editorial decisions.
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There's only one more issue of the series, anyway. The series will be finished after issue #24.

~JTS
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Why is that, do you know?

[James T. Skywalker]

No idea.

For my money, I liked the new Tales better. Being the continuity freak I am, I enjoyed these comics. The previous issues were full of terrible stories and terrible art (in my opinion) and I enjoyed the fresh take on Tales under Jeremy's guidance. I'm sad to see it go.

~JTS

[Justin]

I hate EU continuity (it's a mess and a lot of the characters were written out of character) and it was nice to read stories that didn't have to fit continuity, and it was cool reading the "what-if" stories.

Also, just because the comic fits into continuity now doesn't mean it can't have bad stories and bad art. I personally did not like Nomad at all and there were only two stories in the revamped book that I liked.

I agree that there were a few too many silly stories at the end there but the answer isn't to completely retool the series and force it into continuity, but to tell less silly stories and have more serious ones. A lot of the silly stories were great though, like George R. Binks or whatever it was called.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Justin@May 14 2005, 12:53 AM
I hate EU continuity (it's a mess and a lot of the characters were written out of character) and it was nice to read stories that didn't have to fit continuity, and it was cool reading the "what-if" stories.


It's not such a "mess" as so many people like to think. Just ask me or Nathan about how things fit, and maybe you'll get a clearer picture...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Also, just because the comic fits into continuity now doesn't mean it can't have bad stories and bad art. I personally did not like Nomad at all and there were only two stories in the revamped book that I liked.
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I liked the Nomad story (though I've only so far read the first two chapters).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I agree that there were a few too many silly stories at the end there but the answer isn't to completely retool the series and force it into continuity, but to tell less silly stories and have more serious ones. A lot of the silly stories were great though, like George R. Binks or whatever it was called.
[/b][/quote]

I just didn't like a lot of those stories. There were some very cool ones, like the Vader/Maul fight or the Han/Chewie/Indiana Jones issue, but other than that, there were a lot of REALLY bad stories, even in the early issues.

And with that, I'd say let's move on to the non-Star Wars comics! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

~JTS

[Sabrina Fried]

Originally posted by Justin+May 14 2005, 12:35 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ May 14 2005, 12:35 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@May 13 2005, 07:54 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Justin@May 13 2005, 04:14 PM
No I didn't.* That's too bad.

I think I'm going to stop reading Star Wars Tales.* The stories have gotten kind of dull and I'm not happy with Jeremy Barlow's editorial decisions.
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There's only one more issue of the series, anyway. The series will be finished after issue #24.

~JTS
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Why is that, do you know?
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Justin,

They're revamping their entire line of comics. ALL the current SW comics are being cancelled by the end of the year (shipping delays permitting). That and the new Tales, in terms of hard core numbers, is doing about as well as the old Tales, which is to say great for those of us who love it, but not enough to float a series. Ironic that the only SW comic currently shipping with variant covers is being canned partially due to low numbers! I like to think that the bringing Tales into continuity thing was more or less a transparent change. I mean, the original Tales still had stories in continuity, but the entire comic was marked infinities because the short stories jumped around so much and they would have had to list every single story individually on the DHC site in order to show the timeline accurately, which from a marketing standpoint would have been confusing and counterproductive because then fans not familiar with Tales would start looking for comics that don't exist.

And yeah, just because the stories are in continuity doesn't mean they are good. After all, an out of continuity story is not necessarily bad, is it? The odd thing is, when they cancelled Tales the first time around, I was hopping mad. This time, I'm kind of ok with it. Mostly because I'm optimistic about what they may set up to replace it.

Moving on to non-SW comics though, lets see, what did I pick up this past week...um, Usagi Yojimbo anyone? Shaolin Cowboy? Conan?

Sabrina

[brookie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I agree that there were a few too many silly stories at the end there but the answer isn't to completely retool the series and force it into continuity, but to tell less silly stories and have more serious ones. A lot of the silly stories were great though, like George R. Binks or whatever it was called. [/b][/quote]


i loved the silly stories. they made me laugh.

i went to the comic book store and spent way too much.

anyone reading ultimate iron man?

hellhouse?

astonishing x men?

damn nation?

daredevil redemption?

i have a few more recommendations, il post them later.

happy reading!

sabrina- i havent beed reading any of thos

[James T. Skywalker]

How was Astonishing X-Men #10? I saw it when it came in last week, but I only buy those in trade, and read them at my local bookstore (since my comic shop doesn't let you "browse").

~JTS

[Justin]

Thanks for the info, Sabrina. And by the way, Conan rules! It's one of the best comics I'm reading right now. Everyone reading this post should go buy The Frost Giant's Daughter hardcover that's on sale now.

This Jewels of Whatever Conan comic isn't very good though.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@May 17 2005, 01:01 AM
How was Astonishing X-Men #10? I saw it when it came in last week, but I only buy those in trade, and read them at my local bookstore (since my comic shop doesn't let you "browse").

~JTS
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I've got #10 but haven't read it yet.

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[James T. Skywalker]

Tell me how it was when you read it.

Ok, today was comic day (among other things), so here's my very short list for today:

The O.M.A.C Project #1 (FINALLY!!!!!)
Superman #217 (ties into OMAC)
Teen Titans Volume 3: Beast Boys and Girls

And the awesome thing... I didn't pay one cent for any of them! That's right! FREE COMICS! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Of course, they were free because I spent much of the morning helping my local store organize, sort, order and put on display this week's comic shipment, so the manager was cool and comp'd the books for me. I was very willing to pay for 'em, but I'll take it. It was fun stuff hanging out with 'em anyway.

So, OMAC is gonna be a great series, and thank God Mark Verheiden's work on this issue of Superman was better than what they've been throwing at us in Smallville... fun story, good tie-in, but I want more now!

Luckily OMAC #2 comes out next week! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

~JTS

[brookie]

i just got the SW tales that was out last week. i read 2 of the three, i thought the 2nd story was waaaay boring.

i also picked up issued 10 and 11 of astonishing x men- i keep forgetting whats going on in the comic... i should stick with the x men trades.

[James T. Skywalker]

Here's a link to my blog on Infinite Crisis:

http://blogs.starwars.com/JamesTSkywalker/5

Enjoy!

~JTS

[P-Ray]

The newest Young Avengers was once again incredible!

And Teen Titans had a great start for the Outsider crossover.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by P-Ray@May 23 2005, 05:55 PM
The newest Young Avengers was once again incredible!

And Teen Titans had a great start for the Outsider crossover.
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I bought the Teen Titans crossover issue as well, it was quite good.

Also, read Astonishing X-Men #10 today. Wow.

Great read.

Looking forward to Wednesday...

~JTS

[brookie]

I think astnishing x men has gone down hill, its just blah.

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by brookie@May 23 2005, 08:54 PM
I think astnishing x men has gone down hill, its just blah.
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They've got a whole 14 more issues. And I enjoyed this last one a lot. Great to see good ol' Chuck...

~JTS

[Daibutsusan73]

I just picked up my comics from the past couple of months and......................................HOLEY style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif THE ULTIMATES IS THE BEST COMIC OUT RIGHT NOW! Is it weird that I kissed the cover of the last issue I read when I was done?

[James T. Skywalker]

Big pre-new comic day for me: picked up all seven second-printing issues of the Identity Crisis series from DC, as well as the last five issues of Batman from Judd Winick, and the first issue of the new arc in Wonder Woman featuring the art of Rags Morales, who worked on ID Crisis.

~JTS

[BobPalpatine]

Went to my comic book store today and ordered Otis's comic Oddly Normal. Had the guy look it up for me so I could order it. Been meaning to do it for a while and remembered to today.

Also picked up Green Lantern: Rebirth #6. Was a little disappointed, felt a little anti-climatic to me. I really think they should've just finished off Parallax instead of putting him inside the battery again.

Got Green Lantern #1 and it was like any other first issue where they had to reestablish everything but it was a pretty decent read. I just hope they can get it up to one of the top reads of the month.

Picked up the latest issues of Y the Last Man and Fables as well. Those will always be 2 of my favorite comics. Both are well written and keep me engaged the whole issue and leave me wanting more.

Picked up a bunch of other stuff but nothing worth really mentioning.

[James T. Skywalker]

I picked up the second issues of both the OMAC Project and Day of Vengeance miniseries, as well as Outsiders #24, which goes along with the Teen Titans issue from last week to make up the "Insiders" story arc. Also picked up the (very weird) first issue of the DC Special Return of Donna Troy.

~JTS

[snowblind]

Looks as though Mr. Moore has finally had enough:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

[BobPalpatine]

Originally posted by snowblind@May 27 2005, 06:45 AM
Looks as though Mr. Moore has finally had enough:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13
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I don't know. I don't really feel sorry for him. He always comes off as overly whiny to me...

[Justin]

Who cares. I think he's petty and not necessarily a very nice guy. His bad blood with DC stopped a cool Watchmen hardcover and Watchmen action figures, which is so incredibly weird.

I actually thought the part of the article about Marvel not issuing reprints of flawed comic collections was more interesting. I'm also kind of pissed, having spent quite a bit of money on the latest Powers trade, to find out that it is missing a page.

[cj790]

I love the guy's work, so I'm disappointed by this.

Off to get more comics today!

[snowblind]

OK, he does whine on a bit but...

Stating the bleedin' obvious, I'd whine a whole lot more if Hollywood swallowed up my works of genius and spit out absolute abortions.

[Daibutsusan73]

Originally posted by snowblind@May 27 2005, 07:45 AM
Looks as though Mr. Moore has finally had enough:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13
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He is always talking about leaving the comic book industry entirely. You have to admire his integrity though.

[brookie]

i ve always respected him, i liked watchmen, but honestly, i didnt like anything else tha the has written and dont really care that hes leaving

[brookie]

who else thought that this months EMPIRE stank to high heaven?

[Sabrina Fried]

This month's empire started out very promising, but it just seemed kind of pointless. I mean I know it's only supposed to be a filler issue until they can get the regular arc back on its feet, but I mean, what happened at the end? Is it over? is there more? it was soo unclear.

Sabrina

[P-Ray]

Has anyone seen the ad for the next Republic comic. It looks great and takes place right after RotS.

[cj790]

I'll probably stop getting Republic now they've killed off Aayla, and no doubt Quinlan dies too. I loved that arc, and don't think they'll be able to match it - and I wasn't keen on the preview write-up on the Dark Horse website.
Isn't it finishing later on this year anyway? (It thought someone mentioned that ealier in this thread?)

[James T. Skywalker]

Anyone else's comic shop have this happen?

I come in yesterday around 4:30, expecting the new shipment of comics to have arrived. When I get there, Gene (the owner) says that because of Memorial Day, the shipment is coming in tomorrow (today, now).

Crazy UPS.

~JTS

[cj790]

The comic shops I always go into have their deleiveries messed up every Bank holiday monday.

[brookie]

yes deliveries are postponed a day when a national holiday insues.

[Sabrina Fried]

Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Jun 2 2005, 10:57 AM
Anyone else's comic shop have this happen?

I come in yesterday around 4:30, expecting