MOVIES: Alien vs. Predator

[Darth Vegas]

At the request of Tovor, I start this thread.

IGN, has a summary of Alien vs. Predator up, and filming begins next week!

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/456/456083p1.html

[Tovor]

Thank you Bondy.
Ever since seeing the alien skull in Predator 2 I have been among many who thought an Alien vs. Predator movie would be the coolest shyt of all. However, I do not like the direction this film is going in.

Number one, if anything, it should take place in the future and not in the present. The whole idea of Alien was that the Company wanted to get a hold of them aliens to use as a weapon of some kind on Earth. This coming story shows that the aliens had been brought to Earth long before the time frame of the first Alien movie. So maybe this exbidition to Antartica is what leads the Company to know about the aliens and in the future jump at the chance when they pick up the signal transmitting from the crashed ship on LV426 before the Nostromo mission. There is the industrialist named Weyland in this film, so apparently he is the founder of the Weyland Company.

Even though many of us would prefer to forget Alien 3 and 4, all 4 Alien movies used the threat and fear of the aliens reaching Earth as a plot device. This prodcution indicates that the aliens have been brought by the predators to Earth regularly for the last few thousand years. Sorry, that may lead to a dark foreshadowing, but to me it takes away from the mystery and unknown quality of the first Alien film.

Another thing is this: Why have it take place in Antartica? Don't the Predators prefer the hot climates? The synopsis indicates that in ancient days the Aztecs build their temples to the predators whom they saw as gods, so why not set it up in an ancient temple in the jungle? Wait, hold that thought...set it up in Antarctica to as to not copy the jungle setting of the first Predator film? Oh, so set it up instead to copy the setting of The Thing. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

I'd love to see an Alien vs. Predator film, I really would. But it should take place in the future, not the present, an another planet entirely. I have not read the comic book series or read any of the books, but why not have an exbidition travel to, or crash land on, a planet used by the Predators as a training ground like Antartica is used as in this film? Maye it another world entirely, as different from Earth as Dagobah is for example, or something even more extreme or exotic. How about the home planet of the alien species?

[Darth Vegas]

I agree with alot of what you said. If it doesn't all fit together right with the other films than oh well, we'll still get some wicked cool fights. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

I think you may be right about Weyland, it makes sense...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Weyland is played by Lance Henriksen, the same actor who played the android "Bishop" in Aliens and Alien 3. Perhaps there is a geneological connection between Weyland and the Alien-era man that Bishop is modelled on.[/b][/quote]

Wasn't Ian Holm's character Ash programmed to bring an Alien specimin back to Earth? It would be kinda interesting to find out that Weyland knew about the Aliens all along and just didn't want us to know about it.

Here's a site for news and rumors about the film: http://www.planetavp.com/amr/films/avsp/avspfacts.html

and some more info: http://www.filmjerk.com/nuke/article531.html

[Tovor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Wasn't Ian Holm's character Ash programmed to bring an Alien specimin back to Earth? It would be kinda interesting to find out that Weyland knew about the Aliens all along and just didn't want us to know about it.[/b][/quote]
Yes, absolutely true. Long before the Nostromo picked up the alien (non-human, not the monster aliens) SOS signal, Weyland (I think the "Company" was "Weyland-Ituni") had already deciphered the signal as a warning to stay away from the planet and sent Ash on the mission to ensure that the alien described in the warning was brought back for study and military use.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah I thought so. I think it's possible that this could all fit in with that.

Is it possible the crashed ship on LV426 was a Predator ship, and thus the SOS signal was from the Predators? I was always curious about that corpse they found... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

That'd be a neat way to tie things up.

[Justin]

How could that be a Predator ship? The pilot of the vessel (the Space Jockey) was obviously not a Predator. If you're saying it was killed by a Predator (which makes no sense, seeing as it was the pilot), then that isn't right because it was killed by an Alien's "birth."

I think this idea that the Predators have been using the Aliens like clay pigeons for "thousands of years" severely cheapens the Alien mythos. In the films, the whole point is that the Aliens are uncontrollable, and ultimately superior.

I think it's ridiculous that the Predators, who seem like total retards since they were beaten by Ahnuld with big trees and Danny Glover, would be able to keep Aliens like caged animals.

The Alien films (even the sub-par 3 and 4) have so much more depth and quality than the two Predator movies (which are basically one-trick pony action movies), it is just stupid to try and combine the two. Especially since the Predators are obviously the "good guys" of this new film.

By the way Tovor, the only reason there is an Alien head in the "trophy room" scene in Predator 2 is because when they were going to film it, Stan Winston needed more skulls to fill up the scene and grabbed an Alien mask from his creature shop.

[Javen]

I think this movie will conflict with Alien 5. Ridley Scott said that he would be doing this sometime soon. I'm not sure exactly when production will start, but I think in 2004.

[Tovor]

Ridley Scott is doing Alien 5? Talk about coming full circle.

[Justin]

Actually James Cameron said he was doing Alien 5. If they pigeonholed Alien 5 to do this crappy Alien vs. Predator thing, that really sucks.

[Tovor]

Oh, that's interesting. I hope Cameron does do it. Had he done Alien 3 (and 4), the series would have taken a whole different course. I would have preferred his involvement in the 3rd at least.

[Justin]

I read an interview with him (I posted a link to it somewhere) where he said he hated what they did with Alien 3 and that he was going to fix it.

[Javen]

Originally posted by Justin@Oct 25 2003, 12:52 PM
Actually James Cameron said he was doing Alien 5. If they pigeonholed Alien 5 to do this crappy Alien vs. Predator thing, that really sucks.
Here is the source that Ridley Scott would be doing it.Alien5 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1742)

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Justin@Oct 25 2003, 09:45 AM
How could that be a Predator ship? The pilot of the vessel (the Space Jockey) was obviously not a Predator.
Justin the pilot was obviously a corpse, you couldn't really tell what it was.

Given what we know about this film I don't think what I'm suggesting is too outlandish at all.

[Darth Vegas]

Actually Alien 5 it's supposed to be a joint project betwen Ridley Scott and James Cameron, from what I read at IGN anyway...

But this is not an Alien 5 thread, so can we stay on topic please? And more importantly can we quit jumping ahead ourselves here? We've heard only a little bit about this movie and already you're saying it's gonna suck. Geez. :whatsthat:

[Justin]

Originally posted by TK-007+Oct 25 2003, 06:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Oct 25 2003, 06:04 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Oct 25 2003, 09:45 AM
How could that be a Predator ship? The pilot of the vessel (the Space Jockey) was obviously not a Predator.
Justin the pilot was obviously a corpse, you couldn't really tell what it was.

Given what we know about this film I don't think what I'm suggesting is too outlandish at all. [/b][/quote]
OK first of all, the Space Jockey is massive. Predators are only slightly bigger than humans. Second of all, the Space Jockey had a trunk. Predators don't.

[Darth Vegas]

I was always under the impression that he was wearing some kinda of suit, but whatever. Just a random idea.

[Justin]

It's an interesting idea, but I think if they tried to explain it that way, it would be kind of silly, and it would take away from the original Alien film.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah I kinda agree, especially for people who havn't seen Alien, although, I would like to know what happened before on LV426, see more of these "Space Jockeys". And I'd like to see this flick tie-in with the other Alien films in an interesting way, with some neat twists, but I'll settle for a mindless action flick. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Oh hold up here...I musta been sleeping. You guys must think I'm on drugs or something. I sounded like I was suggesting that the Space Jockey was a Predator, but I couldn't possibly have meant that cause yeah he is massive (I mean duh), silly me. :look:

No obviously the Space Jockey isn't a Predator, but in my mind, I was thinking for one minute second that it'd be neat if there were some kinda connection, I was more thinking about this cause' I remember the foggy interior of the Predator ship from Predator 2 and I recalled the scene where Kane fell into the foggy mist and found the eggs...and something struck a cord. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif

[Justin]

I think the mist was what triggered the egg to open. Like it was part of the Alien physiology created by the eggs as a notice that prey was near, much like the vibrations on a spider's web when an insect makes contact with it.

[Mann]

I want to see a face hugger on a predator! Wouldn't that kick @$$!?

[Tovor]

The Predator would probably try to bite it off with those tusk-like incisors, and get his mouth and throat sprayed with acid. That would be cool to see! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[Mann]

Has anyone seen the video game Alien vs. Predator? I hope tey make the sequel like that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Which one? There's been more than one Mann, the only one I played was the arcade game they had. Don't remember it much.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007@Oct 26 2003, 04:18 PM
Which one? There's been more than one Mann, the only one I played was the arcade game they had. Don't remember it much.
The one with the five characters (two humans, three predators) fighting off the army of aliens

[Justin]

oK, I don't know about that, but I do know about an Alien vs. Predator PC game where you could play as an Alien, a Predator, or a Space Marine, and basically there were three different versions of the game depending on which species you chose.

I thought playing as the Space Marine was the most fun, because it was like the move Aliens. It is actually pretty suspenseful at times. I could feel my heart beating in my chest at some parts.

[Mann]

The one i mean is an arcade game, where like five people can play at once. Lots of fun!

[Justin]

I just hope they don't have a "Predator Alien." I thought the whole "Aliens take the form of the animal they come out of" thing was ridiculous.

[Mann]

Like that time when all the toys on Aliens came out, and they had different aliens for different species? lol.

[Justin]

Yeah, that was so lame. The action figures of the Space Marines were pretty cool, with the "Scorpion Alien" being the closest to the actual Alien as it appears in the films. That's the only one of the Aliens that I bought. It was nifty how they all came with facehuggers that could fit on the Space Marines, and a mini comic book.

It was also cool that they made an action figure line based on an R-rated movie that had come out several years previous, lol.

[Darth Vegas]

The new Alien vs. Predator toys are pretty impresive, really detailed, very cool stuff. I'd buy some of them if I had more room for them.

[Mann]

I don't buy action figure anymore. My cats attack them.

[Justin]

lol.

Bond, are you referring to the McFarlane Movie Maniacs line?

I really like the box set of the Alien vs. Predator because the Alien is sculpted exactly as it appears in the first Alien film, and the ALien Queen set with the victim in the coccoon with the chestburster is really cool.

The standard figures kind of suck because they are based on Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. I thought the Aliens didn't look as good in those movies. Especially with the goat-style inverted legs.

[Darth Vegas]

Yes those are the ones. Mcfarlane has a good Terminator 3 line too....

They got the Queen set at the Game Stop down the street, looks fabulous. Be a great addition to my collection of stuff.

[Agent Sith]

This movie is gonna be soooo LAME! But ill still go and see it cause I love Predators, too bad this is the comeback movie for the Predator series cause we havent seen them since 1991.

[Justin]

I would rather see a new Predator film and a new (good) Alien film.

[Mann]

watched the trailer

This is a must see for me!!!!!!

[Justin]

I saw it too, and I saw the posters. They're making it a stupid event movie instead of a good film. Give me a break.

I'm so sick of the lame abreviations for movies like "ID4," "MIB," "X2," and "LXG." This "AVP" business is the ultimate sign that this movie is going to be a piece of crap.

[Mann]

ID4 I admit was stupid.

MIB fit the movie (they refer to themselves as MIB in the film). MIIB is dumb

X2 was dumb, but the movie was amazing

LXG is the dumbest title and movie. Extraordinary doesn't even start with X! then again LEG would have been funny.

AVP is an event movie. Think about it. Freddy Vs. Jason is the same thing. Two iconic villians batteling eachother. And I liked Freddy Vs. Jason.

Predaotr 1 was good, Predator 2 was so so.

[Justin]

It's just further cheapening Alien. That was a great film. It's sad to see it devolved into a crappy exploitation movie.

[Darth Darthy]

That's a very crap teaser trailer indeed.

[Mann]

well, they haven't shot any footage of the film yet. The images they described in the featurrete sound astounding.

[Justin]

What featurette?

[Mann]

Originally posted by Justin@Oct 31 2003, 03:20 AM
What featurette?
go to the featurrete on the site for the trailer. It talks about how the sotry was formed, what the initial backgroudn it, and how it spawned.

[Darth Darthy]

I see all. This movie will be sh!t. And then you'll create a thread all about it's sh!tness.

[Darth Vegas]

Thread already exsists. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Darth Vegas]

A word from Lance Henriksen

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=2314

[Justin]

I just watched Predator 2 yesterday. It's funny that Bill Paxton dies in the sequel to both Alien and Predator.

[Darth Vegas]

A still from the movie here (http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Science_Fiction/Alien_vs_Predator&image=avpfp1.jpg&img=&tt=)!

And check out these articles:

http://www.chud.com/news/dec03/dec18avp.php3

http://www.chud.com/news/dec03/dec19avp.php3

http://www.chud.com/news/dec03/dec20avp.php3

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Justin@Oct 25 2003, 06:45 PM


I think this idea that the Predators have been using the Aliens like clay pigeons for "thousands of years" severely cheapens the Alien mythos. In the films, the whole point is that the Aliens are uncontrollable, and ultimately superior.

I think it's ridiculous that the Predators, who seem like total retards since they were beaten by Ahnuld with big trees and Danny Glover, would be able to keep Aliens like caged animals. .

Just read the summary.

Yep, sounds like a really dumb idea. How could the Predictors in South America have been wiped out by a massive swarm of Aliens - without leaving any trace (even in legends)?

The idea that all this secret training the hunting of Aliens is going on right under the noises of humans on Earth is (IMHO) just plain daft.

Aliens were supposed to be the ultimate killing machines - not just some dumb creature to be releashed and killed for sport as 'training'.

Nonsense.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Dec 29 2003, 06:21 PM
Aliens were supposed to be the ultimate killing machines
They still are - they are changing anything about that at all. Make for more of a challenge for a hunter don't you think?

Sure the idea sounds a bit stupid (Then again to countless others the entire idea behind both Predator and Alien is stupid) - but I think you all know deep down that both of these series, no matter how good certain chapters of them might have been, are all about the creatures.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by TK-007+Dec 30 2003, 11:56 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Dec 30 2003, 11:56 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Darth Badly@Dec 29 2003, 06:21 PM
Aliens were supposed to be the ultimate killing machines
They still are - they are changing anything about that at all. Make for more of a challenge for a hunter don't you think?
[/b][/quote]

If the Predators crash landed on the Aliens home world that might be an interesting match - but hunters don't in general go after things they don't expect to kill - which weakens the idea of the Aliens for me.

And how come if the Aliens were loose on Earth they didn't just take over?

I agree with your comments about the creatures being the main point of both series.

[Justin]

I don't. I think in the first two Alien films at least, the focus was on the people who had to deal with the Alien. There were some very memorable characters in those two films.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Darth Badly@Dec 30 2003, 05:40 PM
If the Predators crash landed on the Aliens home world that might be an interesting match - but hunters don't in general go after things they don't expect to kill - which weakens the idea of the Aliens for me.

But they do expect to kill them, and I'm sure in the end you'll probably see that they will.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>And how come if the Aliens were loose on Earth they didn't just take over?[/b][/quote]
They aren't exactly loose on Earth. And also they're all killed, obviously, if there's going to be any continuity here, than the film will end with all the Aliens being killed and probably nobody left alive to tell of their exsistance (or at least not anyone who would want to say anything about them), except somebody from "The Company".

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Justin@Dec 30 2003, 07:50 PM
I don't. I think in the first two Alien films at least, the focus was on the people who had to deal with the Alien. There were some very memorable characters in those two films.
Lets put it this way: you take the creatures out of the movie, and you have no movie.

[KarvoZem]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Aliens were supposed to be the ultimate killing machines - not just some dumb creature to be releashed and killed for sport as 'training'.
[/b][/quote]

I had heard that this fight betwqeen Aliens and Predators was a rite of passage. Don't you think that if this fight is a right a passage, something you must do to become a Warrior and a man, they would pick a very difficult beast to hunt and fight? I mena, no cultures rite of passage has ever been "Go kill two bunnies, a frog, and a cat."

The Sand People rite of passage if killing a Kyrat Dargon, do realize how big those things are supposed to be? To prove you are ready to be a warrior you need to show that you can take on the toughest opponent you know and show you can take them down. And the Artic is a very cold and unforgiving place, whihc I think would be ideal if you wanted to show you had "the right stuff".

[Handothrawn]

I think it will suck and ruin two franchises, so needless to say I'll be first in line, I sat through GINO-98, I can sit through this.

[Darth Vegas]

New trailer!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/inte...ternet_trailer/ (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/internet_trailer/)

[Justin]

Ok, that was kind of cool, but there were some things there that were totally cheesy. For one thing, that "whoever wins...we lose" tagline is really lame.

For another (and this one really annoys me) calling it "AVP: Aliens vs. Predator" is just so extraordinarily stupid. I hated "ID4" and "LXG" and "X2" and "JP3." "MIB" was ok, because there is a business card for the Men in Black that had "MIB" on it.

I just don't understand this whole thing where Hollywood has to abbreviate all it's big movies. Do they really think the moviegoing audience is so dumb that they have to have everything simplified down to a minimum of three letters? This does not bode well for this film.

Also, I hate the idea that the Aliens take the form of whatever organism they incubated it, so the whole "Predator-Alien" thing is retarded.

Otherwise the trailer looked pretty cool. However, I still think the movie is going to suck. We'll just have to see. Hopefully it will be good.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Justin@Mar 11 2004, 09:01 AM
Also, I hate the idea that the Aliens take the form of whatever organism they incubated it, so the whole "Predator-Alien" thing is retarded.
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif Did I miss something?

[cj790]

I read a plot summary of this over on aintitcool before Christmas.

It sounds bad. Way bad. Waaaay bad. Baaaaaaaad.
Why must all franchises be so ruined!!!

[Darth Darthy]

It does sound terrible. The internet trailer is also rather poo, just lots of quick cuts.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by cj790@Mar 11 2004, 09:06 AM
I read a plot summary of this over on aintitcool before Christmas.

It sounds bad. Way bad. Waaaay bad. Baaaaaaaad.
Why must all franchises be so ruined!!!
Guys this isn't supposed to be frickin' Shakespeare, it's the ultimate badass bounty hunter alien vs. the uh...you know, that other alien.

Think Godzilla vs. Mothra, Freddie vs. Jason...

[Justin]

Freddy vs. Jason was based on two lame cliched horror movies, and the movie was very tongue in cheek, it was sort of like it was always winking at the audience. I really enjoyed it, but that was because I knew I was being winked at and it was funny.

Alien is possibly (in my opinion) one of the greatest science fiction films of all time. The third and fourth Alien movies really watered it down, but it sucks if it is just being further cheapened by being turned into a Freddy vs. Jason style wink at the audience.

[Javen]

Exactly. A franchise shot down to something like this. Then when there is an Alien 5 or rather it had better redeem itself in an awsome way.

[Darth Vegas]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>But it sucks if it is just being further cheapened by being turned into a Freddy vs. Jason style wink at the audience. [/b][/quote]

Now I didn't say it was going to be like that, cheesy and all, but I just used that as an example, that's the basic premise of the film, to get these two badasses to fight eachother.

[Justin]

Originally posted by Justin@Mar 11 2004, 05:01 PM
Ok, that was kind of cool, but there were some things there that were totally cheesy. For one thing, that "whoever wins...we lose" tagline is really lame.

For another (and this one really annoys me) calling it "AVP: Aliens vs. Predator" is just so extraordinarily stupid. I hated "ID4" and "LXG" and "X2" and "JP3." "MIB" was ok, because there is a business card for the Men in Black that had "MIB" on it.

I just don't understand this whole thing where Hollywood has to abbreviate all it's big movies. Do they really think the moviegoing audience is so dumb that they have to have everything simplified down to a minimum of three letters? This does not bode well for this film.

Also, I hate the idea that the Aliens take the form of whatever organism they incubated it, so the whole "Predator-Alien" thing is retarded.

Otherwise the trailer looked pretty cool. However, I still think the movie is going to suck. We'll just have to see. Hopefully it will be good.
I'm quoting this since it was at the bottom of the last page.

And Bond, there is a shot of what must be an Alienized Predator in the trailer there.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Javen@Mar 11 2004, 12:40 PM
Exactly. A franchise shot down to something like this.
Geez dude you havn't even SEEN it yet. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

If you're complaining about the basic idea of the film, it's a little late, they've been making Alien vs. Predator video games, comics, and toys for a long time now. This movie has been anticipated ever since we saw the alien skull in Predator 2.

[Justin]

OK, I looked at again and I guess I was wrong about the Predator Alien thing, but that's what it looked like the first time I saw it, lol. But I bet there will be something like that in the movie.

[Javen]

Originally posted by TK-007+Mar 11 2004, 03:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Mar 11 2004, 03:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Mar 11 2004, 12:40 PM
Exactly. A franchise shot down to something like this.
Geez dude you havn't even SEEN it yet. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

If you're complaining about the basic idea of the film, it's a little late, they've been making Alien vs. Predator video games, comics, and toys for a long time now. This movie has been anticipated ever since we saw the alien skull in Predator 2. [/b][/quote]
I know this. I wasn't born yesterday.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah I'm sure your weren't.

Just saying, you could at least wait until you see the film until you judge it.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Justin@Mar 11 2004, 12:48 PM
OK, I looked at again and I guess I was wrong about the Predator Alien thing, but that's what it looked like the first time I saw it, lol.
Yeah, were you talking about that one Predator with the different mask?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>But I bet there will be something like that in the movie.[/b][/quote]

I doubt it. Why would there be?

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Mar 11 2004, 08:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Mar 11 2004, 08:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Mar 11 2004, 12:40 PM
Exactly. A franchise shot down to something like this.
Geez dude you havn't even SEEN it yet. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[/b][/quote]
sounds familiar doesn't it Bond...? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Freddy vs. Jason revitalized its series...I think this could make those series better. With Resurrection being crap, Predator 2 being crap...

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:12 PM
sounds familiar doesn't it Bond...?
Umm...no.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Mar 11 2004, 09:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Mar 11 2004, 09:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:12 PM
sounds familiar doesn't it Bond...?
Umm...no. [/b][/quote]
*cough Cold Mountain cough*

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann+Mar 11 2004, 01:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Mar 11 2004, 01:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by TK-007@Mar 11 2004, 09:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:12 PM
sounds familiar doesn't it Bond...?
Umm...no.
*cough Cold Mountain cough* [/b][/quote]
Didn't I explain already that I walked out of it? I'm about 100% certain that I did.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Mar 11 2004, 09:25 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Mar 11 2004, 09:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by TK-007@Mar 11 2004, 09:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:12 PM
sounds familiar doesn't it Bond...?
Umm...no.
*cough Cold Mountain cough*
Didn't I explain already that I walked out of it? I'm about 100% certain that I did. [/b][/quote]
still Bond, you never SAW it. You walked into it and out.

ANYWAY

I'll wait for this film. It will probably suck seeing as the story is like the dumbest thing ever!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:27 PM
You walked into it and out.
Yeah that's quite a bit different than not having seen the film at all, I did see it, and left before it got over cause it was crap.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Mar 11 2004, 09:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Mar 11 2004, 09:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Mar 11 2004, 01:27 PM
You walked into it and out.
Yeah that's quite a bit different than not having seen the film at all, I did see it, and left before it got over cause it was crap. [/b][/quote]
yet you seemed to have your mind made up before that...

"I heard from others it was crap" is what I believe you said.

[Darth Vegas]

I believe I really don't care. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/evil.gif

Lets get back on topic.

[Justin]

Yes, let's get back to the crappy movie we were discussing.

Hey, speaking of Freddy vs. Jason, did you know that they're thinking of putting Ash from the Evil Dead movies in the sequel?

Ok, now back on topic.

[Virus]

Anyone see the new trailer? Its AMAZING! And I thought this movie looked bad at first. Check it out at www.apple.com/trailers or www.comingsoon.net

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">I have mixed feelings on this. First one is the director, Paul W.S. Anderson. This is the guy who did Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil. While I heard Event Horizon is good, his other films aren't exactly what you call great movies. Second, I always felt the Alien movies were more about Ripley than the aliens themselves. So my fav part of the Alien movies won't be in the film. Plus the whole antartica in present day thing that's been brought up is against. Still, I have been interested in seeing Aliens fighting Predators on screen. So I'll be going into the theatre with expecting an interesting movie, but not near the levels of the Alien films.</span>

[Virus]

I think this movie is more of a Predator movie than an Alien movie. At least thats how I judged it from the trailer. Anyone else agree?

[Justin]

No, I think the director was saying he was being more careful to be faithful to the Alien series. It looks like there may be a balance between them, but the Aliens are definitley the villains.

[Mann]

the director i think is perfectly suited for this kind of film. Resident Evil and Event Horizon are all like Alien/predator films.

I think the trailer shows that both sides are villains, and that the predators are basically evil too, at least in our eyes. How many poeple are in the group? Cause I think like if its true to Alien and Predator, only the 2-3 main people survive.

[Virus]

how about no one dies and this movie blows everyone away!!!!!

[K-Man]

<span style="color:green">Are the Aliens/Predators going to rock out at some point?

- - -

FvJ News -

As of now, Ash has not been confirmed for Freddy Vs. Jason II. It is a possibility, but there is a lot of cocky-doody keeping it from happen.

A third party will need to be added, and most likely, the writers & Yu will not make a second installment until the rights for Evil Dead 2 Ash are reserved by New Line.

More likely than not, Ash will appear in some way, shape or form in FvJ II.

- - -

Back on topic, Alien Vs. Predator is looking decent, but generic as of now.

I would of at least of liked a Sigourney Weaver cameo, or maybe even Arnie.

Instead, its a bunch of unkowns, being directed by a total ass.

The only shining light for this film is Henriksen.</span>

[P-Ray]

The latest trailer looks awesome!

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">Saw the trailor. Looks better than I thought. Still have reservations on the fact Ripley isn't it. So possibly Predator level goodness, but not Alien level.</span>

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster@Jul 21 2004, 06:50 PM
<span style="color:blue">Still have reservations on the fact Ripley isn't it.</span>
The last thing we need is Ripley (or Dutch for that matter) getting in the way because this isn't an Alien or a Predator movie, this is Alien vs. Predator, the stars of this movie are the creatures, the point of the movie is to see those creatures battle eachother.

And besides Ripley is dead (or technically not even born yet when this movie takes place), if they're going to continue to make Alien films they shouldn't depend on having her in them. They killed her off and that's the end of her as far as I'm concerned, they don't need her in it in order for it to be a good film, there's only so much you can do with a character before it gets tired and old.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">I can see where you are coming from Bond. For me, Ripley is my favourite part of the Alien movies, and why I watch them. Without that factor, I can't see how a movie with the aliens be as good as the previous four. Of course, I won't have final judgement till I see it.</span>

[JKRich]

I can understand you liking Ripley but there is no logical way she could be in this movie.It would cheapen the whole project.(IMO)

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">I understand your logic. If they are so gun-ho on doing it without Ripley, I'd prefer the adaptation of the original comic series.

Hey, if the movie does well, there might be an Alien 5. That alone, for me, is worth seeing it in theatre. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif</span>

[Siamese Sith]

I think it would be nice if there were a few more refernces to the original series in AVP besides Lance "weyland" Hendrickson.
But the trailer does kick much ass! There's a scene where 1 Alien and 1 predator gets trapped in a "black room" together and the ensueing fight is absolutely nuts.....that's what I read at least. I have some kewl production artwork posted over at <span style="color:blue">PDT.com</span> (http://www.pleasedrivethrough.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=706)

[Ripley the Warmaster]

There is now no way I will watch this movie in theatres. (http://www.avp-movie.com/)

[K-Man]

<span style="color:green">Why wouldn't you see it in theaters? Movies like that suck on small screens.

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">
Alien: R
Aliens: R
Alien 3: R
Alien: Resurrection: R
Predator: R
Predator 2: R
Alien vs. Predator: PG-13.

The PG-13 rating has killed any interest in contributing to the box office sales of the this movies. The Aliens reproduce by bursting out of people chests, and the Predators rip out human skulls along with the spine and skin them for sport. Also the movies have rather liberal use of curse words. PG-13 rating ensures that none of these will be present. Add this to my concerns listed earlier. There is no way I will see what I consider an abomination to the Alien Legacy in theatres. This is one die-hard Alien fan turned off, and I'm sure there are scores of other die-hards for both franchises now turned off.</span>

[RollaFett]

Y'know, I saw that trailer a few weeks ago in the theaters and didn't even notice the PG-13 rating. That is an excellent point, with that rating, this film should certainly lack some franchise essentials.
That said, that trailer didn't blow me away to begin with. I've been waiting for this film since the first comic series in the early 90's and even though I don't remember the storyline from those comics, I do remember that it kicked ass. I'm not 100% sold on this story kicking the same ass.
I hope I'm wrong.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Jul 29 2004, 08:49 PM
Y'know, I saw that trailer a few weeks ago in the theaters and didn't even notice the PG-13 rating. That is an excellent point, with that rating, this film should certainly lack some franchise essentials.
That said, that trailer didn't blow me away to begin with. I've been waiting for this film since the first comic series in the early 90's and even though I don't remember the storyline from those comics, I do remember that it kicked ass. I'm not 100% sold on this story kicking the same ass.
I hope I'm wrong.
<span style="color:blue">Golla, it just came out with the rating a few days ago. I believe the original Alien vs. Predator comic was about a group of humans who colonize a planet. Little did they know that it was in the middle of fighting between Aliens and Predators. Some of the younger predators start killing humans. Since they are unarmed, that violates Predator code. An old veteran Predator starts to help the humans. If Fox is so intent to go without Ripley or any of the Predator movies' stars, this would be the way to do it.

I've read on other message boards how some feel if the older movies were released today that they would get a PG-13 rating. I'd have to disagree with that because of how the dialogue is. The previous movies have rather liberal use of lewd language. Now I've heard arguments that cursing won't make a movie, but I pose a question to them. Can you see say Tarantino or one of Kevin Smith's Jersey Chronicles movies without the liberal use of cursing in the dialogue? I can't see how that can be used an argument for this movie.

Anyways, there is now no way I'll see this in theatres now.</span>

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Jul 29 2004, 08:49 PM
Y'know, I saw that trailer a few weeks ago in the theaters and didn't even notice the PG-13 rating. That is an excellent point, with that rating, this film should certainly lack some franchise essentials.
That said, that trailer didn't blow me away to begin with. I've been waiting for this film since the first comic series in the early 90's and even though I don't remember the storyline from those comics, I do remember that it kicked ass. I'm not 100% sold on this story kicking the same ass.
I hope I'm wrong.
I'm still looking forward to this movie and I am going to give it a chance. I read all the Alien vs. Predator comics and I really enjoyed them. Plus, I am a huge fan of the Predator movies.

[Virus]

Yea I think anyone that is a Predator or Alien fan HAS to give this movie a chance. Hell, not like anything else good is coming out this summer. This has been one of the worst summers for movies. Pee-ewww!

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by Virus@Jul 29 2004, 10:08 PM
Yea I think anyone that is a Predator or Alien fan HAS to give this movie a chance. Hell, not like anything else good is coming out this summer. This has been one of the worst summers for movies. Pee-ewww!
<span style="color:blue">I watch the Alien Legacy almost religiously. However, the negatives that have come out about the movie has beraked the bantha's back. I'll give it a chance in my DVD player, not a sign of support to Fox to keep trying to cheapen the Alien Legacy by making pathetic attempts like AVP is.</span>

[Justin]

I hope that if this movie is successful they will make more seperate Alien and Predator movies, not more Alien vs. Predator movies.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Justin@Jul 30 2004, 01:48 AM
I hope that if this movie is successful they will make more seperate Alien and Predator movies, not more Alien vs. Predator movies.
I agree! I would love to see more Predator movies especially (not necessarily Alien and Predator together)

[Virus]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Jul 30 2004, 06:51 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Jul 30 2004, 06:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Jul 30 2004, 01:48 AM
I hope that if this movie is successful they will make more seperate Alien and Predator movies, not more Alien vs. Predator movies.
I agree! I would love to see more Predator movies especially (not necessarily Alien and Predator together) [/b][/quote]
Wow you guys are on the same brainwave as I am.....I want and know this movie will do great. Its been advertised for a while plus there isnt much going against it. Anyone know how much this movie cost to make?

But I hope this will push the directors and writers to do Alien 5 and DEFINATELY do a Predator 3.

[jedi hunter]

there is already talk about alien 6. Why alien 6 you say they are thinking to consider AVP the 5 move of the alien saga. And if you dont belive me here is a site to go to http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&...v&id=1808402883 (http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808402883) and read the Alien Vs. Predator notes

[K-Man]

<span style="color:green">PG-13?

This further prooves that Paul W.S. Anderson is not the man for the job. The best he could do was PG-13?

Anderson is the worst director of our time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>

[Virus]

Originally posted by K-Man@Jul 30 2004, 07:44 PM
<span style="color:green">PG-13?

This further prooves that Paul W.S. Anderson is not the man for the job. The best he could do was PG-13?

Anderson is the worst director of our time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>
ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooo. I did read about this being PG-13!!!! Well its already a terrible movie. How can every other movie in the series be R but not this one.

[K-Man]

Originally posted by Virus+Jul 30 2004, 08:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Virus @ Jul 30 2004, 08:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-K-Man@Jul 30 2004, 07:44 PM
<span style="color:green">PG-13?

This further prooves that Paul W.S. Anderson is not the man for the job. The best he could do was PG-13?

Anderson is the worst director of our time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>
ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooo. I did read about this being PG-13!!!! Well its already a terrible movie. How can every other movie in the series be R but not this one. [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:green">Especially since it is the collaberation.</span>

[jedi hunter]

Sorry for killing everything for you guys but im still looking foward to it.

[Zobb]

I'm surprised it took this long for them to make the movie. People been talking about it for years.

[Virus]

Originally posted by Zobb@Jul 31 2004, 08:18 PM
I'm surprised it took this long for them to make the movie. People been talking about it for years.
Well they've been talking about this for YEARS. The first comic book came out a while ago. The last Predator movie was in 1991 and the last Alien movie was in 1997. But I believe they started filming this movie last summer, so I think that half-assed this flick. All well, I'll still give it a chance but I don't have high hopes

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Virus+Jul 30 2004, 08:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Virus @ Jul 30 2004, 08:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-K-Man@Jul 30 2004, 07:44 PM
<span style="color:green">PG-13?

This further prooves that Paul W.S. Anderson is not the man for the job. The best he could do was PG-13?

Anderson is the worst director of our time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>
ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooo. I did read about this being PG-13!!!! Well its already a terrible movie. How can every other movie in the series be R but not this one. [/b][/quote]
I saw a commercial for the AvP movie earlier this evening and it stated that "this film had not yet been rated". So apparently as of now, a rating for Alien vs. Predator has not been decided. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Virus]

goto the official website, it stats PG-13 but you are right, the commercials do says Not Yet Rated

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 1 2004, 10:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 1 2004, 10:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Virus@Jul 30 2004, 08:24 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-K-Man@Jul 30 2004, 07:44 PM
<span style="color:green">PG-13?

This further prooves that Paul W.S. Anderson is not the man for the job. The best he could do was PG-13?

Anderson is the worst director of our time* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif </span>
ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooo. I did read about this being PG-13!!!! Well its already a terrible movie. How can every other movie in the series be R but not this one.
I saw a commercial for the AvP movie earlier this evening and it stated that "this film had not yet been rated". So apparently as of now, a rating for Alien vs. Predator has not been decided. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif [/b][/quote]
The Offical Site says PG-13 (http://www.avp-movie.com/)

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Virus@Aug 1 2004, 10:28 PM
goto the official website, it stats PG-13 but you are right, the commercials do says Not Yet Rated
I guess either they haven't updated the commercials yet.


Or maybe they are reconsidering the rating after some changes were recently made to the movie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif (I sincerely doubt that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif )

[JKRich]

Im with you P Rayi am going to give this movie a chance.I think it has definant potential. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by JKRich@Aug 1 2004, 10:44 PM
Im with you P Rayi am going to give this movie a chance.I think it has definant potential. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Yeah, I'm really excited to see The Predator in action again. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Justin]

I'd prefer to see a new Predator movie.

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 1 2004, 10:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 1 2004, 10:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virus@Aug 1 2004, 10:28 PM
goto the official website, it stats PG-13 but you are right, the commercials do says Not Yet Rated
I guess either they haven't updated the commercials yet.


Or maybe they are reconsidering the rating after some changes were recently made to the movie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif (I sincerely doubt that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif ) [/b][/quote]
It is possible do you know how many times they had to change scarface just to get a R

[Anguirus111]

I've seen the updated commercials, it's PG-13.

That upsets me. Fox is making it that rating so young kids will be able to see it. That's stupid, they're two R rated franchises for a reason, they were both incredibly gory. Now having a crossover be PG-13 robs both series of their potential. I could maybe understand if one franchise was PG-13, but not both being R.

Look at Freddy vs. Jason. It was rated R and I thought it did very well, I went to see it at any rate.

Curse you Anderson! Curse you Fox! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thud.gif

[/end rant]

[Virus]

PG-13 just put the nail in the coffin for the true fans. However, it will make over 100 million

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">I think Virus summed it well. They'll get their cash from teenie boppers, but have alienated(pun intended) a lot of the core fanbase of each franchise. I imagine it'll be fairly successful, but not a huge blockbuster. Predator made $98 million when Predator 2 only made around $54 million. Alien: Resurrection made $160 million, being the most successful of it's respective franchise. Either franchise isn't a huge money maker like Star Wars.

Anyways, I just hope no more Alien movies are going to be made if they keep making them PG-13. Rather have no new movies than new bad ones. Only way it can be turned around if Scott finally does an Alien 5, and I know he'll be more respectful than this movie is.</span>

[Justin]

What really sucks is that now all for all the kids who see it, it will be their introduction to the Alien and Predator movies. So if it totally blows (my money's on "it will") then they will write off the Alien movies before seeing them.

[Momin327]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. An "Alien" movie isn't an "Alien" movie without Sigourney Weaver in it. I don't see why they have to stoop to doing a crossover to get the Alien series moving again. Don't give me that "She's too old to keep doing it" rap. There are people older than her who are still kicking ass at old age in the movies. She's 55 years old. We still have 5 years to have her potential fulfilled before she turns 60. Harrison Ford's 62, but he's not calling it quits yet.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by Momin327@Aug 3 2004, 12:07 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. An "Alien" movie isn't an "Alien" movie without Sigourney Weaver in it. I don't see why they have to stoop to doing a crossover to get the Alien series moving again. Don't give me that "She's too old to keep doing it" rap. There are people older than her who are still kicking ass at old age in the movies. She's 55 years old. We still have 5 years to have her potential fulfilled before she turns 60. Harrison Ford's 62, but he's not calling it quits yet.
<span style="color:blue">( style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif @ Momin)
I 100% agree with you. She's 55 years old, but doesn't look it. I don't care about the age. As long as Weaver is still in good enough physical shape, I don't see why they should attempt to do one without her.</span>

[Momin327]

I predict in less than a week after this movie's release, Fox is going to beg Ridley Scott and/or James Cameron to help them revive Alien.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by Momin327@Aug 3 2004, 01:48 AM
I predict in less than a week after this movie's release, Fox is going to beg Ridley Scott and/or James Cameron to help them revive Alien.
<span style="color:blue">I hope you have ESP. Personally, I'd prefer Scott to do it.</span>

[Momin327]

Personally, I don't believe in ESP. But I do respect the Force! And I enjoyed both Alien and Aliens.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Momin327@Aug 3 2004, 12:07 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. An "Alien" movie isn't an "Alien" movie without Sigourney Weaver in it. I don't see why they have to stoop to doing a crossover to get the Alien series moving again. Don't give me that "She's too old to keep doing it" rap. There are people older than her who are still kicking ass at old age in the movies. She's 55 years old. We still have 5 years to have her potential fulfilled before she turns 60. Harrison Ford's 62, but he's not calling it quits yet.
How could Sigournet Weaver even be in this "Alien" movie? Isn't AvP supposed to occur way before the events of the first Alien movie?

[Dutch]

It seems so many of you people have already made up your minds as to how "bad: this movie is going to be.

Why don't you all SEE IT FIRST, then decide?

I personally am looking forward to this movie. It looks pretty cool to me.

[Darth Vegas]

I agree. An R Rating isn't going to gaurunteee whether or not the movie is any good.

I'm expecting a good 'dumb-fun' somewhat b-rated movie, nothing more, I happen to be a big fan of those sorts of movies.

[Darth Darthy]

One of the most iconic images in Alien or cinema itself is the chest burster. Acid for blood, ridiculous Predator weapons and all the gore that comes with the territory are out. If a character dies in a nasty, gory way then I want to see it and I don't want to be patronized with a cut away just because they're looking to entertain the action figure buying kids. I won't be paying to watch this...

[Momin327]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 3 2004, 04:17 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 3 2004, 04:17 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Momin327@Aug 3 2004, 12:07 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. An "Alien" movie isn't an "Alien" movie without Sigourney Weaver in it. I don't see why they have to stoop to doing a crossover to get the Alien series moving again. Don't give me that "She's too old to keep doing it" rap. There are people older than her who are still kicking ass at old age in the movies. She's 55 years old. We still have 5 years to have her potential fulfilled before she turns 60. Harrison Ford's 62, but he's not calling it quits yet.
How could Sigournet Weaver even be in this "Alien" movie? Isn't AvP supposed to occur way before the events of the first Alien movie? [/b][/quote]
But that shouldn't be possible, right? Ripley and her crew from the future are the first humans to face the xenomorphs!

[KarvoZem]

Originally posted by Momin327+Aug 3 2004, 12:47 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Momin327 @ Aug 3 2004, 12:47 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 3 2004, 04:17 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Momin327@Aug 3 2004, 12:07 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. An "Alien" movie isn't an "Alien" movie without Sigourney Weaver in it. I don't see why they have to stoop to doing a crossover to get the Alien series moving again. Don't give me that "She's too old to keep doing it" rap. There are people older than her who are still kicking ass at old age in the movies. She's 55 years old. We still have 5 years to have her potential fulfilled before she turns 60. Harrison Ford's 62, but he's not calling it quits yet.
How could Sigournet Weaver even be in this "Alien" movie? Isn't AvP supposed to occur way before the events of the first Alien movie?
But that shouldn't be possible, right? Ripley and her crew from the future are the first humans to face the xenomorphs! [/b][/quote]
It is entirely possible if jut about everyone but "Bishop" (Don't know the Characer's name in AvP off the top of my head) and his fellow people from his company survive and they keep the whole covered up.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by KarvoZem@Aug 3 2004, 01:06 PM
"Bishop" (Don't know the Characer's name in AvP off the top of my head)
Charles Weyland, founder of Weyland Industries.

[Momin327]

Originally posted by TK-007+Aug 3 2004, 08:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Aug 3 2004, 08:04 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-KarvoZem@Aug 3 2004, 01:06 PM
"Bishop" (Don't know the Characer's name in AvP off the top of my head)
Charles Weyland, founder of Weyland Industries. [/b][/quote]
Actually, it's called Weyland-Yutani. Where's Yutani? Their search for the xenomorph was a joint effort.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

History about Weyland-Yutani (http://members.aol.com/jeyers/w.htm)
<span style="color:blue">Weyland Corp and Yutani Corp were two different companies that merged. This is probably before the merger.</span>

[Justin]

Truly, I hope this will be an excellent film that does not cheapen the Alien series.

[Tovor]

If this has been said before then disregard the upcoming statment. If it hasn't been said before, then disregard the prior statement.

I will see this film because it may be mindless dumb fun, but I don't like how it alters the mystery of the first alien. Lots of people have said that introducing Boba in AOTC negates the mystery factor of the character in the old trilogy. I don't entirely agree with that (just a little bit), but I feel that introducing the aliens in a film set before the timeline of the Dan O'Bannon alien takes away from the mystery and shock value of the aliens in 2079-era Alien.

I had no problem with seeing the Death Star plans in AOTC, but what if we saw a fully built Death Star blowing up planets in ROTS? Beside ruining the continuity between ROTS and ANH, it would lessen the surprise and mystery of the battle station in ANH.

[Virus]

for a second I thought i was in Episode III (spoilers) section.......or am i? back on topic! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I think that this will take away from the classics (Alien, Aliens, and Alien3). But if it does, then you just forget about this new movie like some people are gonna forget about most sequels.

The PG-13 rating is gonna be the killer for this movie. Predators are barely gonna hurt people and no more Aliens spitting acid. OH OH, how did I forget this part: both of their signature moves will not be in these movies. The Predator wont rip out someones spine (you'll probably only see the skull, fully cleaned), and forget about seeing a baby Alien burst threw someones chest.

[Justin]

Tovor wasn't off-topic at all, he was using examples from other movies as analogies for this one.

[Tovor]

^ Thank you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[Justin]

I agree with you Tovor, and many people who were involved in the previous Alien movies said the same thing.

I think this movie will probably end any chances for a serious Alien 5, like what Ridley Scott and James Cameron were talking about doing.

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by Virus@Aug 4 2004, 08:06 PM
for a second I thought i was in Episode III (spoilers) section.......or am i? back on topic! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I think that this will take away from the classics (Alien, Aliens, and Alien3). But if it does, then you just forget about this new movie like some people are gonna forget about most sequels.

The PG-13 rating is gonna be the killer for this movie. Predators are barely gonna hurt people and no more Aliens spitting acid. OH OH, how did I forget this part: both of their signature moves will not be in these movies. The Predator wont rip out someones spine (you'll probably only see the skull, fully cleaned), and forget about seeing a baby Alien burst threw someones chest.
Wrong I have seen lots of movies with blood and stuff with a pg-13 rating. Pg-13 mainly means that thier is no vulger language and just to let you know we never actulay seen predator rip somone spine out just the skull and the spine.. and since when did acid becaome rated R

[P-Ray]

There's an article on IESB.net stating that AvP may not be done by the release date and they already had to cancel it's press junket. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 5 2004, 08:02 PM
There's an article on IESB.net stating that AvP may not be done by the release date and they already had to cancel it's press junket. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Why would they show the preview on tv if the movie is not finished

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by jedi hunter+Aug 5 2004, 07:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jedi hunter @ Aug 5 2004, 07:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virus@Aug 4 2004, 08:06 PM
for a second I thought i was in Episode III (spoilers) section.......or am i? back on topic! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I think that this will take away from the classics (Alien, Aliens, and Alien3). But if it does, then you just forget about this new movie like some people are gonna forget about most sequels.

The PG-13 rating is gonna be the killer for this movie. Predators are barely gonna hurt people and no more Aliens spitting acid. OH OH, how did I forget this part: both of their signature moves will not be in these movies. The Predator wont rip out someones spine (you'll probably only see the skull, fully cleaned), and forget about seeing a baby Alien burst threw someones chest.
Wrong I have seen lots of movies with blood and stuff with a pg-13 rating. Pg-13 mainly means that thier is no vulger language and just to let you know we never actulay seen predator rip somone spine out just the skull and the spine.. and since when did acid becaome rated R [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:blue">You see the spine ripped out in Predator. The acid deals with the results of molecular acid hitting human flesh. Also, you will never see a chestburster in a PG-13 movie. I've watched everyone in the four alien movies, and they all could never done justice in a PG-13 movie. Plus the language is a staple of the alien movies.

Back to the point of the spine coming out, you say that you never see the predator rip out a spine, just the skull and the spine. That's a contridiction, and takes the air out of your point.</span>

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster+Aug 5 2004, 08:05 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sniper Wolf the Warmaster @ Aug 5 2004, 08:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by jedi hunter@Aug 5 2004, 07:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Virus@Aug 4 2004, 08:06 PM
for a second I thought i was in Episode III (spoilers) section.......or am i? back on topic! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I think that this will take away from the classics (Alien, Aliens, and Alien3). But if it does, then you just forget about this new movie like some people are gonna forget about most sequels.

The PG-13 rating is gonna be the killer for this movie. Predators are barely gonna hurt people and no more Aliens spitting acid. OH OH, how did I forget this part: both of their signature moves will not be in these movies. The Predator wont rip out someones spine (you'll probably only see the skull, fully cleaned), and forget about seeing a baby Alien burst threw someones chest.
Wrong I have seen lots of movies with blood and stuff with a pg-13 rating. Pg-13 mainly means that thier is no vulger language and just to let you know we never actulay seen predator rip somone spine out just the skull and the spine.. and since when did acid becaome rated R
<span style="color:blue">You see the spine ripped out in Predator. The acid deals with the results of molecular acid hitting human flesh. Also, you will never see a chestburster in a PG-13 movie. I've watched everyone in the four alien movies, and they all could never done justice in a PG-13 movie. Plus the language is a staple of the alien movies.

Back to the point of the spine coming out, you say that you never see the predator rip out a spine, just the skull and the spine. That's a contridiction, and takes the air out of your point.</span> [/b][/quote]
Well excuse me......but when you see the acid hit some one it doesnt do much damage it looks just like a normal 2nd or 3rd degree burn

[Virus]

dude whats with the attitude? and change your avatar, thats P-Rays.

The fact that there wont be as much violence isn't the problem. Its going to be bad cause its gonna feel different. How would EP3 feel if it were R? or how would Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions been if it were PG-13 or even PG? They both would still be great movies but wouldn't "feel" the same. Thats the whole point of making sequels is to have the audience feel comfortable with similar scenarios yet to see some new and cool things as well as interesting plots that expand.

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Virus@Aug 5 2004, 08:15 PM
and change your avatar, thats P-Rays.

Dude! I'm touched that you're looking out for me. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif ThanX Virus. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif

I probably need to change mine anyhow. I've had it for a looong time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Tovor]

Originally posted by Justin@Aug 5 2004, 07:46 PM
I agree with you Tovor, and many people who were involved in the previous Alien movies said the same thing.

I think this movie will probably end any chances for a serious Alien 5, like what Ridley Scott and James Cameron were talking about doing.
Did they? Like who? Weaver, Cameron, Scott? I agree about an Alien 5 being weakened by his film, and I think that many people will assume that AvP is Alien 5; so when Alien 5 comes out, if it does, people will be confused and think they've seen it already.

I've not read the comic books or read the Alien and Predator comics, but my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies. That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

This movie will indicate that it was the discovery of the aliens in Antarctica that will lead the Company to crave the aquiring of the aliens prior to the Nostromo mission. But part of the mystery factor of the book and movie, adding to what I said in my last post, was that the Company wanted the aliens for their weapons division because they had intercepted and translated the extraterrestrial warning message transmitted from the ship on Lv426 and knew of the aliens from the details of the message. I liked the idea of the Company wanting to get their hands on an alien while not really knowing the full extent of what they were getting.

Justin, you know that I've concieved several movie ideas since I was a kid. One of the brief story ideas that I concieved after Aliens (before Alien 3)was a sequel in which Ripley, Hicks, and Newt returned to Earth, and Ripley started a lawsuit agaist the company on behalf of Newt's family and the dead colonists. Meanwhile, a doomed ship returned to the space station with an "Impregnated" crew and the aliens get loose first on the space station, and then on ships heading to Earth, leading to an on Earth nightmare similar to the end of Jurassic Park 2. My whole point is that I was intrigued by the concept of the Company having no real clue what they were dealing with or how to contain the aliens, and the aliens being on Terran soil for the very first time, and this movie takes away from both of those ideas.

[Justin]

That's an interesting idea about the lawsuit and all that.

Personally, I hope there is never an Alien film that takes place out in the open on Earth. Part of the Alien mythos is the claustrophobic feeling of being in closed-in spaces.

[Tovor]

Agreed, about the closed in areas. That's why part of never to be seen movie took place in the space station.

[Justin]

I read an early draft of Alien 3 that took place on the space station above Earth. But it it was like, in New York city or something I would not be interested in seeing it.

At least this Alien vs. Predator thing takes place in some funky temple under the arctic circle and not the middle of Africa or something.

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by Virus@Aug 5 2004, 08:15 PM
dude whats with the attitude? and change your avatar, thats P-Rays.

The fact that there wont be as much violence isn't the problem. Its going to be bad cause its gonna feel different. How would EP3 feel if it were R? or how would Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions been if it were PG-13 or even PG? They both would still be great movies but wouldn't "feel" the same. Thats the whole point of making sequels is to have the audience feel comfortable with similar scenarios yet to see some new and cool things as well as interesting plots that expand.
sry for the attitude.....How do you guys think the movie will end? I think since no one can decide on who is going to win i think predator will use his self destruct or something like that what do you guys think?......... and i changed my avatar.

[Justin]

You're probably right.

But we probably shouldn't use spoilers in here.

[jedi hunter]

sry

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by jedi hunter@Aug 5 2004, 10:36 PM
and i changed my avatar.
Thanks JH! I would have changed mine. It's about that time anyhow. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
Justin, you know that I've concieved several movie ideas since I was a kid. One of the brief story ideas that I concieved after Aliens (before Alien 3)was a sequel in which Ripley, Hicks, and Newt returned to Earth, and Ripley started a lawsuit agaist the company on behalf of Newt's family and the dead colonists. Meanwhile, a doomed ship returned to the space station with an "Impregnated" crew and the aliens get loose first on the space station, and then on ships heading to Earth, leading to an on Earth nightmare similar to the end of Jurassic Park 2. My whole point is that I was intrigued by the concept of the Company having no real clue what they were dealing with or how to contain the aliens, and the aliens being on Terran soil for the very first time, and this movie takes away from both of those ideas.
This was a good idea!

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies. That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too?

[Count Dookie]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Hey P-Ray!!! When you going to change your avatar??? You have had it forever!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Count Dookie@Aug 6 2004, 07:36 AM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Hey P-Ray!!! When you going to change your avatar??? You have had it forever!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
I know! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I'm working on that now and you know what I mean style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 6 2004, 07:50 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 6 2004, 07:50 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Count Dookie@Aug 6 2004, 07:36 AM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Hey P-Ray!!! When you going to change your avatar??? You have had it forever!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
I know! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I'm working on that now and you know what I mean style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif [/b][/quote]
How is this one? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Thanx for the assist, Dookie.

Sorry, back on topic now style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[jedi hunter]

I read that this movie is more of a prequel because they star using the in this movie to make the other guy in aliens.....You guys should watch this i think it is awsome http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen i dont consider it a spoiler but if you think it is then dont watch.But someone please watch and tell me what you think. and i think the first time predator threw alien that should have killed him

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by jedi hunter@Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM
I read that this movie is more of a prequel because they star using the in this movie to make the other guy in aliens.....You guys should watch this i think it is awsome http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen i dont consider it a spoiler but if you think it is then dont watch.But someone please watch and tell me what you think. and i think the first time predator threw alien that should have killed him
<span style="color:blue">It's middle of the road. AVP takes place after Predator 2 but before Alien.

1987-Predator
1997-Predator 2
2004-Alien vs. Predator
2122-Alien
2179-Aliens and Alien 3
2381-Alien: Resurrection</span>

[Tovor]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies. That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too? [/b][/quote]
I have no solid info, but I read somewhere that Lance Henrikson plays the head of the Company (remember in Alien they never referred to the name of the company, they just called it the Company). Evidently from that, the future Bishop "artificial persons" are based on the company founder. What an ego boost, aye? To be a multi gazzillionaire and have a line of robots modelled after you. Let's pray that Donald Trump doesn't aquire this kind of techonology!

[Tovor]

Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 6 2004, 08:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 6 2004, 08:10 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
Justin, you know that I've concieved several movie ideas since I was a kid. One of the brief story ideas that I concieved after Aliens (before Alien 3)was a sequel in which Ripley, Hicks, and Newt returned to Earth, and Ripley started a lawsuit agaist the company on behalf of Newt's family and the dead colonists. Meanwhile, a doomed ship returned to the space station with an "Impregnated" crew and the aliens get loose first on the space station, and then on ships heading to Earth, leading to an on Earth nightmare similar to the end of Jurassic Park 2. My whole point is that I was intrigued by the concept of the Company having no real clue what they were dealing with or how to contain the aliens, and the aliens being on Terran soil for the very first time, and this movie takes away from both of those ideas.
This was a good idea! [/b][/quote]
Thank you, I agree! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/chortle.gif

As far as the lawsuit aspect of the story, I wanted to show the company still refusing to acknowledge the aliens existance, and Ripley, Hicks, Bishop, and Newt testifying to what they experienced. Then in one fot he final scenes of my story, an alien or aliens finds it's way into the main Company building, and the execs who denied their existance finding themselves face to face with the creatures. (like what happened to Carter in the deleted scene from Aliens)

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by Tovor+Aug 6 2004, 12:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tovor @ Aug 6 2004, 12:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies.* That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too?
I have no solid info, but I read somewhere that Lance Henrikson plays the head of the Company (remember in Alien they never referred to the name of the company, they just called it the Company). Evidently from that, the future Bishop "artificial persons" are based on the company founder. What an ego boost, aye? To be a multi gazzillionaire and have a line of robots modelled after you. Let's pray that Donald Trump doesn't aquire this kind of techonology! [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:blue">The company is named. It's Weyland-Yutani. It's said in Aliens SE, Alien 3, and Resurrection. Henriksen is playing the head of Weyland company. This before the merger.</span>

[Momin327]

Yeah, "building better worlds."...

[Tovor]

Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster+Aug 6 2004, 02:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sniper Wolf the Warmaster @ Aug 6 2004, 02:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 6 2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies.* That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too?
I have no solid info, but I read somewhere that Lance Henrikson plays the head of the Company (remember in Alien they never referred to the name of the company, they just called it the Company). Evidently from that, the future Bishop "artificial persons" are based on the company founder. What an ego boost, aye? To be a multi gazzillionaire and have a line of robots modelled after you. Let's pray that Donald Trump doesn't aquire this kind of techonology!
<span style="color:blue">The company is named. It's Weyland-Yutani. It's said in Aliens SE, Alien 3, and Resurrection. Henriksen is playing the head of Weyland company. This before the merger.</span> [/b][/quote]
Thank you. You clarified what I said. I said the company was not named in Alien, meaning just Alien. You said that it was referred in the rest of the movies. Same difference.

[Momin327]

I don't get it. If the alien eggs can be found here on Earth, why bother sending the Nostromo en route to LV-426 to pick up the alien?

[Tovor]

Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. It lessens the impact and continuity of the first Alien film.

[jedi hunter]

did you guys watch the clip i posted

[Count Dookie]

I watched Predator 2 last week. If anyone remembers towards the end when Danny Glover kills the predator. He walks into what appears to be their ship. A wall opens up and you see all kinds of different skulls attached to spines. Well, I could swear that one of the skulls on the wall was that of an Alien.

The Predators are hunters. Maybe they have hunted the Aliens before and this movie will have something about that.

Anyone else remember what I am talking about???

[jedi hunter]

I remember,but the alien skull on the predator ship is what triggered the AVP franchise.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

No, this is what started the Alien vs. Predator line, a year before Predator 2. (http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=91-044)

[jedi hunter]

how much do you think the comic is worth

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">The comic is worth $20 at the website.</span>

[jedi hunter]

LOL that is alot.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Tovor+Aug 6 2004, 01:50 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tovor @ Aug 6 2004, 01:50 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster@Aug 6 2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 6 2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies.* That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too?
I have no solid info, but I read somewhere that Lance Henrikson plays the head of the Company (remember in Alien they never referred to the name of the company, they just called it the Company). Evidently from that, the future Bishop "artificial persons" are based on the company founder. What an ego boost, aye? To be a multi gazzillionaire and have a line of robots modelled after you. Let's pray that Donald Trump doesn't aquire this kind of techonology!
<span style="color:blue">The company is named. It's Weyland-Yutani. It's said in Aliens SE, Alien 3, and Resurrection. Henriksen is playing the head of Weyland company. This before the merger.</span>
Thank you. You clarified what I said. I said the company was not named in Alien, meaning just Alien. You said that it was referred in the rest of the movies. Same difference. [/b][/quote]
Actually if you have the Alien DVD, when the data screen starts scrolling at the beginning of the movie you can zoom in and see that the screen reads: Weylan-Yutani mining vessel. For some reason it isn't spelled Weyland-Yutani and I don't know why.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Dutch@Aug 3 2004, 09:44 AM
It seems so many of you people have already made up your minds as to how "bad: this movie is going to be.

Why don't you all SEE IT FIRST, then decide?

I personally am looking forward to this movie. It looks pretty cool to me.
Hey it still might be a good movie, I'm just disappointed that we're probably not going to see half the things that made both franchises what they were because those parts were very gory(eg the chestburster, cutting disc, etc.)

[Tovor]

Originally posted by Anguirus111+Aug 6 2004, 08:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Anguirus111 @ Aug 6 2004, 08:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 6 2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster@Aug 6 2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Tovor@Aug 6 2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 6 2004, 08:15 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Tovor@Aug 5 2004, 09:58 PM
my assumption had been that they took place after the timeframe of the movies.* That would make much more sense for this movie (AvP) than a prequel.

So at this point we don't know the timeframe for sure? We only think that Lance Hendricksen is the basis for the "Bishop" character. Or is that up in the air too?
I have no solid info, but I read somewhere that Lance Henrikson plays the head of the Company (remember in Alien they never referred to the name of the company, they just called it the Company). Evidently from that, the future Bishop "artificial persons" are based on the company founder. What an ego boost, aye? To be a multi gazzillionaire and have a line of robots modelled after you. Let's pray that Donald Trump doesn't aquire this kind of techonology!
<span style="color:blue">The company is named. It's Weyland-Yutani. It's said in Aliens SE, Alien 3, and Resurrection. Henriksen is playing the head of Weyland company. This before the merger.</span>
Thank you. You clarified what I said. I said the company was not named in Alien, meaning just Alien. You said that it was referred in the rest of the movies. Same difference.
Actually if you have the Alien DVD, when the data screen starts scrolling at the beginning of the movie you can zoom in and see that the screen reads: Weylan-Yutani mining vessel. For some reason it isn't spelled Weyland-Yutani and I don't know why. [/b][/quote]
I did not know that. Maybe it was in the novel then. I don't remember it being there but that was many years ago that I read it.

[Momin327]

Perhaps it was a typo.

[Greedo Boy]

It was a pretty fun game. I liked jumping down from the ceiling as an Alien and ripping the marines to bits.

Oh, we're talkinga bout the movie... yeah, it looks kinda interesting... I guess.

[general grievous]

Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster+Aug 6 2004, 12:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sniper Wolf the Warmaster @ Aug 6 2004, 12:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-jedi hunter@Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM
I read that this movie is more of a prequel because they star using the in this movie to make the other guy in aliens.....You guys should watch this i think it is awsome* http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen i dont consider it a spoiler but if you think it is then dont watch.But someone please watch and tell me what you think. and i think the first time predator threw alien that should have killed him
<span style="color:blue">It's middle of the road. AVP takes place after Predator 2 but before Alien.

1987-Predator
1997-Predator 2
2004-Alien vs. Predator
2122-Alien
2179-Aliens and Alien 3
2381-Alien: Resurrection</span> [/b][/quote]
then persoaly i hope the alien wins just so it keeps up with the continuity
maybe explain why predatoers arent around in the origial aliens movies and the aliens are
expecialy if theyre at war
but my fav is predetor

[Count Dookie]

I don't care who wins. It will be fun just to watch!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by Count Dookie@Aug 7 2004, 07:09 PM
I don't care who wins. It will be fun just to watch!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
Oh I do!!! I'm for Predator all the way!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Momin327@Aug 6 2004, 01:53 PM
I don't get it. If the alien eggs can be found here on Earth, why bother sending the Nostromo en route to LV-426 to pick up the alien?
What I gather from the previews is that the eggs were brought to the Temple on Earth by the Predators for hunting purposes, but the Temple is destroyed and all the eggs are wiped out. That's how the previews but it, as far as I can see.

[jedi hunter]

Originally posted by jedi hunter@Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM
You guys should watch this i think it is awsome http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen
did any one watch this please tell me what you think

[P-Ray]

Originally posted by jedi hunter+Aug 7 2004, 08:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jedi hunter @ Aug 7 2004, 08:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-jedi hunter@Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM
You guys should watch this i think it is awsome http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen
did any one watch this please tell me what you think [/b][/quote]
I just watched it and I thought it was awesome.


I truly believe that this film could be very entertaining even w/o an "R" rating. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Count Dookie]

Originally posted by jedi hunter+Aug 7 2004, 08:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jedi hunter @ Aug 7 2004, 08:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-jedi hunter@Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM
You guys should watch this i think it is awsome http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ali...vspredator.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/alienvspredator.html)


and click on the exculisive fight seen
did any one watch this please tell me what you think [/b][/quote]
Wow!!! That was cool!! I can't wait for the movie this Friday!!!

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">It gets a meh. Nothing special. Possibly a rental, but no way is it worth $5 to see it in theatres.</span>

[metalhead]

hey everyone im new here so hi
and i cant wait to see this movie its gonna be great ... i hope

[P-Ray]

There is a bunch of AvP spoilers on Inlandempirestrikesback.net if anyone is interested.

[Momin327]

Originally posted by Greedo Boy+Aug 7 2004, 06:08 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greedo Boy @ Aug 7 2004, 06:08 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Momin327@Aug 6 2004, 01:53 PM
I don't get it. If the alien eggs can be found here on Earth, why bother sending the Nostromo en route to LV-426 to pick up the alien?
What I gather from the previews is that the eggs were brought to the Temple on Earth by the Predators for hunting purposes, but the Temple is destroyed and all the eggs are wiped out. That's how the previews but it, as far as I can see. [/b][/quote]
You know, that's what I thought the purpose of that alien ship from Alien was: shipping the alien eggs to another planet, but the jockey was impregnated by a facehugger during the trip, and the ship crash-landed on LV-426, where it lied for some time.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:blue">That sounds horrible, IMO. Predators are made to sound good, and talk about making the aliens look weak.</span>

[Momin327]

Originally posted by Sniper Wolf the Warmaster@Aug 10 2004, 07:42 PM
<span style="color:blue">That sounds horrible, IMO. Predators are made to sound good, and talk about making the aliens look weak.</span>
What? My theory or AVP?

[Ripley the Warmaster]

Originally posted by Momin327+Aug 10 2004, 09:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Momin327 @ Aug 10 2004, 09:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sniper Wolf the Warmaster@Aug 10 2004, 07:42 PM
<span style="color:blue">That sounds horrible, IMO. Predators are made to sound good, and talk about making the aliens look weak.</span>
What? My theory or AVP? [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:blue">The AVP spoliers that listed at the website P-Ray named. It sounds like a really bad movie.</span>

[Justin]

The Predators did not make the Aliens. I hope the movie doesn't say something like that, because that would be the worst.

[Momin327]

Originally posted by Justin@Aug 10 2004, 10:30 PM
The Predators did not make the Aliens. I hope the movie doesn't say something like that, because that would be the worst.
I didn't say that at all. I didn't say Tom Skerritt (Dallas) was looking at a predator corpse.

[P-Ray]

I saw several previews last night with of course the PG-13 rating. I then realized that they are trying to appeal to a younger audience.

Also after talking with someone this morning, we have come to realize that the PG-13 rating nowadays is basically an R rating from a few years ago. I realized this when I took my young son to see King Arthur which was PG-13 and there was a brief sex scene it it. I didn't know it was going to be like that and realized that I really have to be careful on what movies I take him too.

AvP probably won