T'bone's Star Wars Universe

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone

[Darth Vegas]

This is the crown jewel of fansites, IMO.

Just Star Wars fans being real, giving their opinions, great stuff.

[T-bone]

http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?showforum=22

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/other_news/

Don't forget to check out all the latest contests and enter.

[Javen]

Great site from a great fan no doubt.

[T-bone]

bunch of butt kissers. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[brookie]

<smooch> <smooch>

[James T. Skywalker]

T, I won't kiss up like these guys, but it is a good site; TFN's like the big bully of the fansite block, but you're the big-hearted football player that can scare the bully away... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

~JTS

[T-bone]

Originally posted by JamesTSkywalker@Oct 18 2003, 01:59 PM
TFN's like the big bully of the fansite block, but you're the big-hearted football player that can scare the bully away.
LOFL!!!!


Um..thanks!?

[bluemilk]

hands down the best fan site because of the editorials, essays and news. It's very personable and the T'blogs rock. Fried Circuits is also a good read style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Tovor]

I love this site. No butt kissing here. Even though Jedinet was the board I used to go to and the first website I ever viewed my first time online, ect., this site is now the only one I go to for news. Maybe I am biased because of my affiliation with the boards and the owner, but this is the only site I really go to nowadays. Or course, I am trying to avoid learning major new news about Ep. III so I don't read too much from T'bone's Blogs and editorials when they include what I consider spoiler material or even speculation, but what I do read I enjoy a lot. I do like T'bone's writing style and wit in his Blogs and other editorials, which is why I read them over another site's. Maybe it is due to familiarity and my feelings toward him, but I think mainly it is trust. I trust him so I trust his word. Thus I trust what he reports and what he has to say about Star Wars and the next film. There are other sites that you can't always trust the way I trust T'bone to report the truth or as truthful as he has been informed by reliable sources, rather than what you read on sites like *coughTcoughFcoughNcoughHarrycough*

*Ahem*

[Darth Darthy]

If it wasn't for T'Bone and ObiWans old BanthaTrack website, I'd have never witnessed the Star Wars Holiday special.

I don't whether to be pissed off or happy... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif

[Justin]

I think what sets this site apart from others like TFN is that it is run in a much more professional manner.

[JediJaina]

T'bone's site has a warmth to it if that makes any sense. It's not just some cold Star Wars news site that just gives you information and that's it. This is difficult to express in words, but I hope you know what I mean.

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by bluemilk@Oct 18 2003, 03:58 PM
hands down the best fan site because of the editorials, essays and news. It's very personable and the T'blogs rock. Fried Circuits is also a good read style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
I agree, I love the editorials.

I usually get most of my spoiler information from Tbone's place, is one of the few SW fan places I really enjoy.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by JediJaina@Oct 18 2003, 07:29 PM
T'bone's site has a warmth to it if that makes any sense. It's not just some cold Star Wars news site that just gives you information and that's it. This is difficult to express in words, but I hope you know what I mean.
I don't know if this is a very good analogy but....

Yeah it's more like the Ewoks, and TF.N is more like a bunch of Imperial/Trade Federation wannabes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[JediKeri]

Great site, great Messageboards, who wouldn't wanna be here? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[goodwije]

I happened upon a site back in 1998 called T'bone Fender's Star Wars Universe. It was cool and fun, and full of spoilers, there was a notice for area musicians and pictures of some guy named lou and his wife lou LOL. It was a wonderful site and through all its server moves and reinventions it has remained a personal, dedicated, down to earth site (if you can call any SW site "down to earth"). I later learned it was one of the "Big 3" of SW websites. It even made it into newsweek.

I don't know T'bone, except what i read on your site, but i thank you for all your hard work, your humor, and for just bieng a fan. I hope you know how much your site means to many of other fans out there, and I hope it continues to bring you joy. If that is butt kissing, i guess i am guilty. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

BTW what ever happned to the "Fender"?

[T-bone]

You are all very welcome. Messages like that really make me happy and I'm very glad to offer any services to you. This site is something I take seriously and love doing. I almost can't imagine NOT doing it now. Thank you all for your kind words and support.

The Fender thing got dropped because I never really liked how it sounded. Back in the day when I was just starting out online, I wanted to use a phony name because I thought that was something you just did - use an alias. T-bone was my nickname anyhow (Tambone minus the AM) and when i wanted a last name, I looked around the room and said the first word I see shall be it - and there was my Fender Amplifier staring me in the face - voila, Fender it was. Later on I decided it was too long a name and sounded weird. Now I'm like Sting, Bono and those cats style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Anyhow - you guys are the best! Thanks.

[Vibroblade]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Now I'm like Sting, Bono and those cats [/b][/quote]

Aren't all those guys gay?

[T-bone]

Why you....

shall I bust out my DELIVERANCE jokes on you?

[Vibroblade]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif nice...

[JediKeri]

ROFL guys style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Gazelle]

I love Tbone's site for what I think of as "the research pages" - the deleted scenes type and behind the scenes data stuff, which I haven't seen presented so well anywhere else.

As for spoilers, like Episode X, you can rely on Lou not to exaggerate anything or to present a rumour as a fact. In short, its adult.

[Bryan]

Best content for any SW site on the Internet. It's definitely not aesthetically pleasing though. You may be talking about Star Wars, but from the way the site looks graphically...it sure doesn't feel like it. The pop-ups get annoying real fast too.

[JediJaina]

Originally posted by Bryan@Oct 25 2003, 02:37 AM
Best content for any SW site on the Internet. It's definitely not aesthetically pleasing though. You may be talking about Star Wars, but from the way the site looks graphically...it sure doesn't feel like it. The pop-ups get annoying real fast too.
Sadly because he gets so many hits, the pop-ups help pay for his bandwidth. Correct me if I'm wrong T.

[Bryan]

Oh yeah I totally understand.

[xSithHappensx]

I agree about the popups. And I hear the owner is pretty effeminate. Other than that...

Seriously, I didn't realize T'bone was starwarz until after the release of AOTC. I frequently went to cinescape.com/starwars leading up to AOTC because of all the links to "our friend T'bone" at episode-x. It seemed to me that lots of the major spoilers at E-X started out with "T'bone chimes in with this..." I like his posting style, I like the editorials (I still refer to them frequently), I LOVE the BLOGS. Wouldn't change a thing.

[T-bone]

About the design:

UGO is the provider of the ads and they asked if i'd please adopt their design so I did in order to get the ad revenue to help pay for the site (which isn't much, mind you - the revenue i mean).

There are only popup ads on the main page and the movie news page - that should be it really. In fact the ones on the main page shouldn't happen every time.

Until I stop using the UGO ads, I agreed to use thier design. Who knows what will happen in the future.

[bous]

Absolutely love this site, the blogs are great and I love the deleted scenes section. Most of the editorials are a good read too.
Been going here for some years now (when it was still T-Bone Fender).
Try to stop by this site at least once every day.
Keep up the good works T.

[T-bone]

Thanks!



and a bumpus maximus.

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/editorials/s...wars_on_dvd.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/editorials/starwars_on_dvd.htm)

[T-bone]

Hey all - I need some good folks to do some guest columns on the site. The areas I need are in collecting, EU NEWS (Not to replace Sabrina's column, but to be in addition to it), and also someone to cover gaming (all kinds and formats).

These columns will be either weekly or bi-weekly and should be all inclusive, meaning they'd cover all news in that category for the time period.

Professional sounding writers only, people who can spell and use grammar correctly style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif People who are committed and will not disappear after 2 columns. People who love Star Wars and are into their area of fandom and follow the news regularly.

Let me know, thanks.

[Darth Darthy]

Gaming you say?!? Why I just happen to know a god of games...

[Darth Vegas]

I can ask some of the TUCWS guys if they're interested in writing an EU collumn for you, if not then I might be able to do that, unless I get more lazy or go crazy and decide to get off the couch or something...

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by T'bone@Feb 21 2004, 11:46 AM
EU NEWS (Not to replace Sabrina's column, but to be in addition to it.
yeah eh? how so?

[T-bone]

A column that does a weekly wrap up of all the expanded universe news.

sabrina usually picks a topic and goes with it regardless of the news which is still great but i need actual news news on the site and i don't have the time these days.

anyone with questions, just mail me.

[Pagz]

Not sure where to post my feedback on the recent editorial "Franchise Wars" so I figured I'd do it here.

For the most part I enjoyed the editorial, but I do have to take issue with a few of the assertions and generalizations that were made.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...Noting its monetary success was seen as a cop-out by those that hated it.[/b][/quote]

My stance on the money issue is this. It's a non issue. Trying to argue that a movie is good or bad based on how much money it made is an exercise in futility. A huge box office return doesn't make a movie good, one need only look at the list of the top grossing movies of all time to see this in action: Titanic, Episode 1, Spider-Man, Independance Day, Home alone. The list goes on. This is not to say that all of these movies are bad either, but it should be a clear indication that ox office returns are no measure of the actual quality of the film.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>There were those who believed that Lucas had become someone who was no longer an artist, but a money grubbing pig who only gave a damn about the "bottom line." Blah, blah, blah.[/b][/quote]

You'll never hear me say that George Lucas is only concerned with money and the bottom line. If he were only in it for the money he would have released the trilogy on dvd ages ago, and done the film through a studio so he didn't have to foot the bill. However, you will hear me say that Lucas is not an artist, and hasn't been for some time. It became clear to me shortly after the Special Editions that Lucas was creatively bankrupt, at least in regards to the Star Wars franchise. What should have been an exercise in restraint and fine enhancements became a bloated and painful snubbing of the work of the artists originally involved. I have no real problem with GL going back and fiddling with the films, they're his movies, he can do what he likes. However, once a film has been released, especially in a case like this, where the film has had a profound impact, then at the very least the original version of that film should be preserved. It surprises me that GL, who led the charge against colourization, is so caviler about rewriting film history in ways which remind me, very unpleasantly, of "The Party" in Orwell's "1984".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...What I don't get is why these same cats all went to see the movie over and over again.[/b][/quote]

In this matter I can only speak for myself. In 1997 I was nearing the height of my Star Wars fandom. I was ravenous. I was a member of the fanclub, I was reading the novels, buying the comics, the action figures. I skipped school to wait in line for the premier of the Special Editions, all three of them. I caught Pneumonia in line for A New Hope because it was raining and cold all night. When I saw the final products, I loved them, for a little while. Star Wars had been such an integral part of my life growing up, that my love of and anticipation for the SE's superceded all else. It wasn't until later, as the changed began to sink in that I started to think to myself "well, that wasn't really necessary, and I don't like that change at all, and this one makes no sense..." and so on. However, I remained hopeful that the prequels would live up to the standard set by the originals. When Episode I hit, I was once again camping out in line, first in line as it happens. I saw the film and I loved it. I was blown away. Yet, in the pit of my stomach was this weird feeling, something nagging at me. I dismissed the feeling, deciding that it was merely a function of the hype. I fell for the line that so many people have brought up in defense of Episode I, including this editorialist, 'nothing could live up to that kind of hype'. It wasn't until the release of Fellowship of the Ring that I realized how truly erroneous this defense was. I went on to see Episode I in the theaters 13 times. I count my 3rd viewing as my favourite, as that was the viewing where everything gelled for me, I knew all of the little nuances of the story, I was catching all the easily overlooked details and seeing the subtlety of some of the story work and acting. From that point on the was a slow but steady decline in ho well the film played for me. Finally, by my 13th viewing I had come to the previously unfathomable conclusion that I didn't really like Episode I very much at all. Possibly one of the most crushing moments of my life. Long and overblown I know, but the answer I'm trying to get to here is this: I went to see this film over and over again because my over-riding love of Star Wars was so deeply ingrained that it took a long time for me to truly come to grips with not actually liking the film. I have a distinct feeling that there were a lot of Star Wars fans who found themselves in the same position, their initial love and zeal for the franchise slowly giving way to the depressing realization that the film, was in fact, poor.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Why did they buy the CD-ROM? Why did they buy all the toys? Why did they buy the VHS and the DVD? Their answer: "Because it's still Star Wars." Uh...ok. [/b][/quote]

This statement comes down to the collectors. That being the case, "it's still star wars" is a perfectly reasonable reply. Just because the movie wasn't that great doesn't mean the toys or the merchandise aren't worth investing in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...I think the main problem was that most fanboys set their expectations way too high. In the end, it's just a movie and not the "Second Coming" the fans built it up to be. The immense media hype for the movie also didn't help matters.[/b][/quote]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. The notion that nothing could live up to that kind of hype. I used to believe that. Now I've seen 3 movies live up to that kind of hype, meeting with both critical and financial success and acceptance from a large number of the very picky fanbase. There really is no reason that Episode I couldn't have been better than it was. Watching the behind the scenes documentaries, it becomes clear what the major problem is. It's not the writing, it's not the acting, it's the directing. The problem is, GL is not a director. He has no talent for directing actors, and is far too easily pleased with his takes. Watch him direct, watch him say "great, print it, lets move on" to a take that was exceptionally mediocre. Certainly the writing is not sparkling, but a good director and actor can take poor dialogue and make it at least passable. GL had good actors, so where does the responsibility fall? That'd be the director.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What I found interesting was that fanboys were ripping into Episode I for things they were willing to give The Matrix a pass on. Lame dialogue, wooden acting, all gloss no substance, etc.[/b][/quote]

Perhaps then, the Matrix didn't have these "qualities" in nearly the same degree as Episode I did. People love to point to Keanu as a text book "wooden" actor, but in terms of the Matrix, it was entirely appropriate. Neo was meant to be this empty vessel, to be filled with knowledge, and eventually become "the one". Anyway, you'll notice that the Matrix sequels came under tremendously harsh criticism for exactly what's being discussed above. I submit that The Matrix as a single film works far better than Episode I in terms o style, content, direction and dialogue. It's not the seminal piece of sci-fi that some people have turned it into, but it's a slick little movie none the less.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...What also happened was that some of those that dug the Star Wars Special Editions that had come out two years prior, also jumped ship. All of the sudden, they were "*******izations" of Lucas' original work. I know some thought that same thing in '97, but the number did seem to jump after Episode I came out. Again, with the irony.[/b][/quote]

I don't know that this is terribly ironic. It's important to realize the climate in fandom at the time of the release of the Special Editions. There was a lot of excitement surrounding these films, not only because of the enhanced effects and changes, but more importantly, because this was the first opportunity for a lot of people to actually see the trilogy on the big screen. There really was no way the films couldn't live up to the hype, because everyone had seen them before. Everyone who went to these movies pretty much knew they were going to like them, and the overwhelming excitement clouded the judgment of many for a long while. Changing one's opinion after the fact is not a sign of jumping on the band wagon necessarily. It's just a reasonable that upon repeated viewings and analysis, that the films just didn't hold up.

It seems to me that the Prequels and Special Editions did a tremendously effective job at polarizing the fanbase. Whatever your opinion of them, there's no escaping the impact they've had on the Star Wars landscape and those of us who grew up with the originals.

[T-bone]

Actually, feedback can also (in this case) be emailed to the author of that piece which is on the editorial but if you want, you can also post this under "General Star Wars" which is fine. These threads are about the sites themselves and not so much the content contained therein.

thanks.

[Pagz]

Sorry 'bout that. The feedback link just brought me to Galactic Senate, so I wasn't sure exactly where I should post.

[T-bone]

hey - it's no sweat, bro.
just that i didn't write the thing so it's best to contact the guy that wrote it.
his email is there on the page and he's a cool dude.

[T-bone]

Hi all - I need some honest feedback on a T-BLOG here:

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/movie_news/

The second part of the Blog dated 5/14/04.

Honest opinions please.
Thanks all.

[brookie]

love this site, as you know, and appreciate all the time and effort you and the mods put into this site, i would hate to see anything happen to it. just cause you posted some insider pictures. obviously, those who do not have access to the insider pics can find them else where on the net, hell i would be happy to pm those who need the links.

i understand how you feel, i think its just silly, "the man" doesnt want you to post your pics, so they send you a passive aggressive letter.

you said:So what do I do? Tell Lucasfilm to take a hike and continue posting pics until a lawyer knocks on my door? Do I give in, say OK and stop posting scans? Do I just send them to people who e-mail me privately and not post them? Do I post them on message boards under another name? Do I just close the site and move to the Mosquito Coast?


id say your best bet, is to NOT post the pics, i know it sucks.
i dont know the consequences that would befall you or the site, so i couldn’t suggest to post them. im sure they would be dire, but they cant possibly think that they can keep track of all of the sites!

[brookie]

oh half of my post got deleted! what i said in the forst half is that email was craaaazy! its like a " you cant do anything with out our permission, and if you do, we will bust your balls! do what your told fan boy! dance! dance! smile while your shopping!

[SmokemDeathsticks]

Interesting. A sticky issue to be sure.

I wonder if all this started when they began thinking about merging the Fan Club and Hyperspace? Perhaps because Hyperspace info and pics are forbidden to be shared, now they are treating the Insider the same way? In many ways, the net things and the print things are exactly the same. You pay for both of them, if you give either contents away for free, then that's like stealing from the company. What is the difference between Hyperspace pics and Insider pics? One's on paper and the other's not. One's actually much easier to pass around because you don't need a scanner. They've enforced the Hyperspace thing heavily; I've surfed around and maybe seen only 2 or 3 Hyperspace images on obscure sites. I think this is an effort to stop all pics in either print or digital form from getting out. It's all under the same umbrella now, it would be silly to enforce the rules for one and not the other.

Is it right to enforce rules on only a few sites?

There's no way on earth they could find every site on the net that posts Insider pics. The few biggies get the LFL note in the hopes that the little guys will see it and desist from posting.

It's images anybody from the US or CA can get if they walk to the newsstand and plunk down $5 or however much it costs for the Insider nowadays. To put your butt on the line for this IMHO is not worth it. Some people are cheap and want everything for free. There's the other issue of kids (in US and CA) who don't have the money to put out, and whose parents either aren't able to, or don't want to pay for it. That can't be helped, and can't be fixed. How many of those people could there possibly be, though? Certainly not so many as to close down the Fan Club...that's ridiculous and I don't buy what that email you got says for a second; that's pure and utter crap.

Like you, I feel most strongly for those for whom the Insider is not available. That well and truly sucks, and it's LFL's fault that they are not making these images available to all countries that should have them. If you send images to someone outside the US who has no way of being able to pay for the Insider anyway, what's the harm? IMHO, you're then truly advertising the film on behalf of them and giving something that you paid for away just to make some poor shmoe on the other side of the planet happy. I know this sounds sappy but making people happy is one of the greatest things a person can do. If it were me, and there were some way to confirm that the requestor were from a country that doesn't get the Insider, I'd email the pics. Post them on the site? No. Not unless you want to throw away your website. Especially now, when this is the last movie.

That brings me to my last point. I'm pretty sure all this horsecrap has to do with exactly that...this is the last film, the last point to squeeze every dime out of the hype and the built-in fanbase that they've got now. After EPIII? I'll bet that at least half of us people go away. Yes, there will always be the 'permanent' fans, who stay on the wagon and buy EU and care about whatever's in the Insider, but I know I'm not renewing my Fan Club subscription, and what's the point of Hyperspace? The big man wants his last buck, and he's ensuring that he gets it. Unfortunate but unsurprising.

[Darth Darthy]

Those images helped sell that issue of the magazine to me. I hadn't bought Insider for 6 years up till now. Would they be acting this way were it not for Hyperspace, especially now its renewal time? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

[Master Magnus]

Well, T'bone, here are some reflections on your latest T'blog from a Swedish perspective.
First of all I would like to say that being a Star Wars fan outside of the United States isn't a funny business. The Insider isn't widely available here, in fact, there is only one store I'm aware of that sells the Insider here. Your site have provided good insight to the contents and have often helped me decide whether to buy the Insider or not since it's not that easy for me to simply look in the latest number. Since I'm not a resident of the United States or U.K, I can't subscribe to the magazine. The French and Spanish editions are good I guess, if you speak the languages. Still, the same problems exists, you must be a resident of those countries.
Let's also have a look on the latest development with Hyperspace and the Fan Club tie in. While it's possible to sign up for an International membership, you don't recieve Insider. The price is lower, $19,95 a year as for the regular Hyperspace, but you are not even offered a more 'local' alternative (let's say the U.K. edition for Sweden and the rest of Europe).
The Swedish Star Wars community is virtually non existent. Well, there are events, but there are no Swedish tie-ins or anything.
The actions taken by LFL will have the consequence that I will buy the Insider less frequent, as I really can't judge the EpIII picture contents (which I'm most interested in right now).

[T-bone]

Thanks for all the replies so far - I've gotten a lot of email replies and I'm going to try to compile all the responses for a future BLOG. Most of them have been saying they want the pics to continue to be posted but they're being very cool about it - not in some kind of screw LFL way. The emails have been intelligent and helpful. I hope this leads to something positive.

[bluemilk]

I think if they asked you and other sites to stop posting the pictures, then you should. LucasFilm, LucasArts etc. has always let fans create websites using all their copyrighted content, so asking not to post newer pictures shouldn't be a hardship for webmasters. It's give and take -- and you can't get upset when they set boundaries on certain content especially when they give so much allowance to use other content.

[T-bone]

The e-mail response to this has been incredible and very interesting. I'll definitely post many of them on the site in the coming days and although I'm sure it will do NO good at all, I'll compile a list of excerpts for Lucasfilm to read as well. The mails are all great and basically keep saying things like - If it wasn't for this site I would have never subscribed to the insider - and others say they didn't get this issue or that and if they hadn't seen the pics on the site they'd be even more pissed. Many are coming from countries that don't get the mag and say that their only way to see the pics is on the site. There are other scenearious too - all good stuff. Hardly any emails just saying - You screw em! It's mostly people with good thoughts and short stories about why they don't think it's harmful to post the pics - in fact just the opposite. I wish Lucasfilm would listen.

While the web community has been extrememly positive I think a large crackdown is coming upon the fansites (and has in some cases, actually - look hard) so we'll see what happens. After EP3 it'll probably loosen up but right now I'm at a corssroads and have to make a choice.

One road leads to staying in a company's good graces who I'm not so sure appreciate the site as much as I think they do, the other goes toward the dark side of just posting whatever until a lawyer comes-a-knocking.

I'll keep you all posted.

[T-bone]

http://boards.theforce.net/Episode_III_%28...10331/15905799/ (http://boards.theforce.net/Episode_III_%28Spoilers_Allowed%29/b10331/15905799/)

More discussion...

[Darth Holmes]

I didn't even knew about Star Wars insider until coming to your site and the Senate forums in January. After seeing the posted images of General Grievous from Insider # 75 on your site, I was so interested that I actually went out to the local bookstore and bought a copy because I wanted to read the article. If that's not advertising for the magazine, I don't know what is.

Now having said that, I wasn't all that impressed with the rest of the magazine. It wasn't bad or anything, I just don't get into collecting, EU, or articles about random movie extras that I don't care about. I certainly WOULD pick up another copy if I knew it had interesting material, but I don't think its worth having a subscription for. That's just me.

But I am puzzled that Lucasfilm is asking you not to post anymore images. I mean I cant be the only one with a story like this. Besides I'm in business and I know a bit about marketing. Its seems to me that the exposure from private websites would be free advertising to their target demographic. Sure, some will see the pictures online and pass on picking up a copy. But where all those people really going to go buy one in the first place? Of course not. Its like a window shopper in a mall. A lot of people will stop and look at the merchandise through the window that have no intention of buying. But the idea is that a certain percentage will be interested enough by the display that they will come in to buy something (like I did). I don't see the difference here. Many will pass but some WILL buy. And chances are, the ones that buy wouldn't have done it unless they saw it in the window. I don't see Star Wars Insider doing much other advertising, do you?

If they are so concerned about losing money over this, it seems logical that they would try and improve the content to give us more incentive to buy when we see those pictures instead of giving up a nice piece of exposure and alienating the fans. I would see it as opportunity not a problem. In fact, I would see the improvement as a necessity because they're never going to be able to stop those pictures from getting on the internet eventually anyway.

It is their product and if they ask you not to post them its probaly not worth defying them. But I really don't see the problem. We're already paying for Hyperspace. Now they're not going to let us see a glimpse of Star Wars Insider online? I'm not saying the fans should have everything for free, but I'm starting to get irritated here. After all we are the same people that will line up two and three times out side the movie theater come May 2005.

[T-bone]

hey thanks - can you email me that too?
tbone@starwarz.com

[Obidobi]

Well....Since I am Norwegian and because of that happens to live in Norway too, I'm not allowed to see the pics without seeing them on the net, at sites like T'bone's.
Why am I not allowed to see them too? Just because I'm living on the other side of the Atlantic?
I'm a Star Wars fan just like any American fan.
But not to LFL!
Hell... I didn't even know there was a magazin called SW Insider until a year ago or so....
Why is that?
Is my money not good enough?
Don't they think I understand the written language?

Keep up the good work T!!!
You give knowledge about the SW community all over the globe!!

[Darth Holmes]

Originally posted by T'bone@May 19 2004, 03:16 PM
hey thanks - can you email me that too?
tbone@starwarz.com
I did last night.

PM me if you need to. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[T-bone]

OH yea - sorry!!
I got so many of these I haven't read them all yet.

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by Obidobi@May 20 2004, 12:47 AM
Well....Since I am Norwegian and because of that happens to live in Norway too, I'm not allowed to see the pics without seeing them on the net, at sites like T'bone's.
Why am I not allowed to see them too? Just because I'm living on the other side of the Atlantic?
I'm a Star Wars fan just like any American fan.
But not to LFL!
Hell... I didn't even know there was a magazin called SW Insider until a year ago or so....
Why is that?
Is my money not good enough?
Don't they think I understand the written language?

Keep up the good work T!!!
You give knowledge about the SW community all over the globe!!
Yeah, ObiDobi, I know the feeling. We people up in northern Europe live in darkness. We aren't allowed to participate in any of the contests on Hyperspace and does'nt recieve any of the other benefits. That sucks. I mean, we pay to see the movies in cinema. I saw AOTC four times in theater, spending 340 Swedish kronor (approx. $12X4= $48) in ticket prices alone. Not to mention the money I've put out to buy the darn VHS and DVD's. In September I will of course buy the OT DVD's, that's 500 Swedish kronor ($70). Then I'm sure that they will be released on blue ray DVD's later.
I mean, we also spend money on the products that LFL pours out. We should also get the occasional treat. If we can't get the Insider, we should at least be given the oppurtunity to have a look at the Episode III pictures and other material from the Insider.

[T-bone]

awesome new Fried Circuits column up by Sabrina Fried - slightly related to this stuff we're talking about.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/eu_news/ (dated 5/24/04)

[T-bone]

Just posted a new interview with Amy Somensky - winner of the Jump to Sydney contest.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/interviews/a...amysomensky.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/interviews/amysomensky.htm)

Njoy.

[T-bone]

OH - I forgot, there's a Pablo mention in there for those pH fans.

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/movie_news/

new blog with viewer emails.

[T-bone]

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jsp?foru...t=60&msRange=15 (http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jsp?forum=81&thread=179102&start=60&msRange=15)

Hey - thanks to pablo and all those who gave the site props!!!
i do appreciate it and i'm sure sabrina does as well.
her column is wonderful.

[T-bone]

Anyone remember this?

[brookie]

i dont , but it sure is awsome!

[Sabrina Fried]

Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 26 2004, 11:16 PM
Anyone remember this?
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It looks familiar....I think...its what? 6? 7 years old?

Btw, that thread from Pablo is in the Hyperspace only section, is it not?

Sabrina

[T-bone]

yea probably style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

oopsy.

Anyhow - here are a few more oldies!
I miss the old days...

[Sabrina Fried]

The Jedi Network...awwww style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I miss the old days too..

Hehe, next April 1, as a prank you should upload one of the old layouts!

Sabrina

[T-bone]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Tarkheki JD]

The "Hot, Steamy T-bone" is gold! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Horse_Head]

A few of those look eerily familiar... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Tane Kyja]

pretty cool site T'bone style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Justin]

I really liked that original Galactic Senate banner.

[stormtrooper9]

You mean
<---This one? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif hehe

Ummm waht was the Alliance?

[T-bone]

hehe - found another old one.

[Darth Sithster]

that's the first time i saw that banner, and the only thing i thought was... "wookies are the other red meat?" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bigsmile.gif

[Horse_Head]

Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 6 2004, 12:52 AM
hehe - found another old one.
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classic

[Whisper]

FHM...nice one T, way to plug the site

[T-bone]

did you see it yet?

[T-bone]

i haven't seen the issue yet - if anyone has a scan, please send style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Holmes]

I got my copy Saturday. I'm like hey, thats T'bone!

Don't have a scanner though, sorry.

Congrads on the pub. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Horse_Head]

I have yet to get mine... maybe it'll be in the mail box today style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[T-bone]

anything cool in there, holmes?
is it a tiny sidebar or an article?
they really didn't give me the whole scoop as to what it was going to end up as.

[Darth Holmes]

Its on page 64 under DVD Reviews.

A picture of Han and Chewy from ANH heads the article and the title underneath reads -

"NERD COMMENTARY! - The new DVD has lots of extras but it’s missing a fan-boy commentary. Remedy by reading below."

Then there is a small picture of you (dude, cut the hair) and your little introduction of yourself and the site.

The article goes on with your fast facts of Star Wars trivia with some small screen shots from ANH. That's pretty much it.

[T-bone]

my hair is short - LOL.
i gave them some old pics i think...

but i dig the long hair - just not very "corporate" for where i work.

so it's just a little thing then - cool.
they said they were going to say "nerd" or "geek" and I was ok with that because i don't think the stuff i said sounded nerdy...at least i hope they didn't.

[Horse_Head]

Ya damn Hippie!

[T-bone]

at least i CAN grow it...

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Darth Holmes]

Its a bit on the nerdy side, but I think they did it that way on purpose. Nothing to bad though.

Its a nice piece, and it got most of the page. Props!

Just giving you crap about the hair bro! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[Horse_Head]

OK... no need to get nasty style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

I'll have to post some pics of when I had hair down past my shoulders... cut it all off when I was working in Beverly Hills about 10 years ago...

[Horse_Head]

Hot Off the Press....

T'Bone's FHM Article! (http://starwarsdork.com/images/FHM-tbone.jpg) (1.75 meg file)

A full page sans cigarette ad... not too shabby! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[T-bone]

Hehe - lame and totally rewritten - but a nice plug for the site! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Horse_Head]

gotta love shameless self promotion style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[brookie]

yes yes, and in FHM! you dawg you!!!!

[Tovor]

Cool pic, Bone, and great article. Hey, as long as you were in FHM, you shoulda asked them to do a pictorial of Brookie. That would have been hot! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[Darth Holmes]

Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 13 2004, 07:01 PM
Hehe - lame and totally rewritten
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I figured as much. You usually come of much less...well, fan-boyish. I just didn't want to say that earlier in case those really were your words! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/innocent.gif

But big props anyway man. Any pub is good pub.

And now you can tell people you were featured in FHM! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

...wait, that doesnt sound good does it? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[flo fett]

Originally posted by Darth Holmes@Sep 14 2004, 06:41 AM
...wait, that doesnt sound good does it? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
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style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 14 2004, 03:01 AM
Hehe - lame and totally rewritten - but a nice plug for the site! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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I take it they inserted all those "totally"s in there.

[T-bone]

totally.

[Blizzard]

That's the T look from the movie "Fandom Menace".

[T-bone]

It was actually taken at Alphacon in 2001 - Omaha, Nebraska.
Great show!

[T-bone]

http://www.ny1.com/OnTheAir/websites_mentioned.html

[T-bone]

Hehe - found this searching around today. The link is bad but it brought back some memories!

http://www.cnn.com/EVENTS/1997/star.wars.a...inks/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/EVENTS/1997/star.wars.anniversary/links/index.html)

[stormtrooper9]

I rember that I came across it last year when I was doing a project for school where I had to list some of my hobbies with a pic.

[T-bone]

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,6...tw=wn_tophead_1 (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66532,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1)

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by T'bone@Feb 9 2005, 05:23 PM
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,6...tw=wn_tophead_1 (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66532,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1)
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That was cool, T! It was a pity that Lucasfilm didn't offer any feedback to the concerns that you (and Wise) expressed.

[T-bone]

well they probably read it same time you did to be fair.
i don't hate them or anything - it's not like that.
but wise is right in the aspect that they missed the boat and i've said so many times before...we can really help and do a lot for them but they have shoved us away for years.

[brookie]

Originally posted by T'bone@Feb 9 2005, 11:23 AM
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,6...tw=wn_tophead_1 (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66532,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1)
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youre right!

[Sabrina Fried]

Kinda scary when I agree with Phil Wise...

but both he and T are right. Well, I'd need to do some reasearch into the Onering.net thing, but definitley LFL could learn alot about fan relations from their counterparts at Paramount and the Estate of JRR Tolkien.

Sabrina

[pudooku]

Anyone know what's with the site? Is this a joke... I've had no reply from T all day.

Pudooku

[Talcy]

Dunno about this.

He could be hiding out, having a laugh.

But I'm beginning to get a bad feeling, if you excuse the expression.

This is beginning to not look good.

Edit:

None of the direct URl links are working either, to any of the pages.

[pudooku]

We can start to get nervous when LFL_What'sisname members start turning up eh? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lurking.gif

* Laughs nervously *

Pudooku

[Luvinna]

Well, even if they do start to show up, they'd have to get one of the Admins to make them a mod, and I ain't gonna do it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Horse_Head]

^ style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[jinqwenok]

Help me T'Bone you're my only hope...
I visit your site all the time. I don't post all that much, but what happened????
Help me T'Bone you're my only hope

Please say this is some sort of April Fool's Joke?

[Bretsch]

Seems to be down................. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unhappy.gif

[empire21]

Best April fools prank ever. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif I hope style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Bretsch]

Originally posted by empire21@Apr 1 2005, 07:04 PM
Best April fools prank ever. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif I hope style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>

I'm with you on that.

[T-bone]

I've been getting some really nice emails from people about the site now that SITH is coming out. People are getting nostalgic and emotional and the emails are very kind. I thought I'd share a few here with you once in a while so look out for them here.

[T-bone]

From Sean Cleary:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Dear T-Bone,

Well, here it is. We are at the end of a long, delirious and very fun ride. The thought that there will be no more Star Wars films makes me sad. Knowing that there were three new films on the horizon made the past six years great. I wanted to thank you for making it the exciting ride that it was. Since 1998, I have followed your website and savored every little bit I could read about the new Star Wars films. You were the first website to break the news about the Sith "Rule of Two" and you haven't stopped giving the fans what they needed.

I wish this could go on for 6 more years, but at least we had the past six. Thank you for making it fun to be a Star Wars fan.

May the force be with you....always. [/b][/quote]

[T-bone]

From Marshall Ramsey:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>T-bone

I've been reading your site since before Episode I came out and since we are getting to the end, I just wanted to write to say thank you. Star Wars came out when I was in third grade. I sit here tonight and watch my sons play with my old Star Wars' action figues and have to smile. While not an obsession, it has been a huge part of my life. (My first drawing I ever made a buck on was of an x-wing in third grade).

I think of all of the fan sites, you have struck the right tone. Thanks for doing great work for so many years.

Marshall Ramsey
Editorial Cartoonist
The Clarion-Ledger
Jackson, Miss.

P.S. Don't tell Lucasfilm I made that buck on the X-wing drawing. They may want royalties.
[/b][/quote]

[BobPalpatine]

Originally posted by T'bone@May 12 2005, 10:33 PM
From Marshall Ramsey:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>T-bone

I've been reading your site since before Episode I came out and since we are getting to the end, I just wanted to write to say thank you. Star Wars came out when I was in third grade. I sit here tonight and watch my sons play with my old Star Wars' action figues and have to smile. While not an obsession, it has been a huge part of my life. (My first drawing I ever made a buck on was of an x-wing in third grade).

I think of all of the fan sites, you have struck the right tone. Thanks for doing great work for so many years.

Marshall Ramsey
Editorial Cartoonist
The Clarion-Ledger
Jackson, Miss.

P.S. Don't tell Lucasfilm I made that buck on the X-wing drawing. They may want royalties.

<div align="right">Quoted post</div>
[/b][/quote]

Awesome I used to read this guys editorials when I lived in Vicksburg!

[Horse_Head]

^ Cool... and now Lucasfilm will be tracking him down style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Tarkheki JD]

Awsome oppsum! I think we all owe you a great big thanx for helpin' feed our obsession for a long while yo! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/grouphug.gif

[Sluggo]

Hey it's my favorite part of T-bone's site.
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/guest_editor...nyder_canon.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/guest_editorials/johnsonsnyder_canon.htm)

[Sluggo]

and I liked this page too.
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e..._recreation.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep4/luke_intro_recreation.htm)

[T-bone]

biased!

Hey - here are some new contests I have running...enjoy!
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/swc_news/

[Horse_Head]

Originally posted by Sluggo@Jun 12 2005, 01:47 AM
Hey it's my favorite part of T-bone's site.
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/guest_editor...nyder_canon.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/guest_editorials/johnsonsnyder_canon.htm)
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>

The link to your site is dead Sluggo

[T-bone]

yea that's been gone for a while.
i leave it up for nostalgia style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Sluggo]

Someday it will rise again!!

Actually, in a way, it sort of morphed into the Deleted Magic project.

[T-bone]

Heh yea I guess.
If you wanna send me your content I'd like to look it over again.

[T-bone]

Hey - don't forget to enter the three contests!

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/swc_news/

[T-bone]

bump for contest reminders.
tell your friends!

[T-bone]

Bump - last day to enter the contests!
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone

[T-bone]

Contest is over and winners posted! Thanks to those who entered.

[T-bone]

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[Seanakin]

Lucky Bastid. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[JediJaina]

Wow! That's awesome!

[Momin327]

Anything new in Cut Scenes?

[Momin327]

Goodness! Such a massive site should be on the second page!

[Momin327]

*Bump*

Anything new on the site, T'Bone?

[T-bone]

Actually, I'm just finishing up the EP3 Cut Scenes section. Should be up by end of year, possibly this week sometime if I can get a few more things tidied up.

[Master Magnus]

^I'm really looking forward to it, T! Any other plans for the site that you wish to share?

[T-bone]

I wish - but 2006 is 10 Years of T'bone so I gotta try something dammit!
I might do a big editorial of the history of the site or something...not sure yet.

[Horse_Head]

10 years?! damn you're old style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Momin327]

Originally posted by T'bone@Dec 11 2005, 09:00 PM
Actually, I'm just finishing up the EP3 Cut Scenes section. Should be up by end of year, possibly this week sometime if I can get a few more things tidied up.
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Anything new in the OT cut scenes?

[T-bone]

i have lots of smaller things on a "to do" list but nothing like...new, just additions to existing pages and stuff like that.

[Momin327]

You mean nothing from that "365 days" book?

[T-bone]

i have to get that book yet.

[Battle Droid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Actually, I'm just finishing up the EP3 Cut Scenes section. Should be up by end of year, possibly this week sometime if I can get a few more things tidied up.[/b][/quote]

Cool, can't wait! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif

[T-bone]

Psst: look for it today... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Battle Droid]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep3/index.htm

[T-bone]

Enjoy folks.
make sure to read this first: http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/movie_news/

[Darth Darthy]

Hey, nice one T! I shall read this tonight with a beer in one hand and a bowl of popcorn in the other. I'll lock Sarah out of the room too. She doesn't understand the importance of these things.

[T-bone]

haha - your pic made it into one of the pages too - with a thanks!

[Darth Darthy]

*Sigh* Those were the days.

[Battle Droid]

Here's you a new picture for The Separatist Council section T'bone.

[T-bone]

Hey thanks - actually I have that one but I sometimes need to go through the films to verify, etc. I'll take these though because they're nice quality! Thanks! When I get through em I'll add them if they're real cuts and this one although I thought was, I have to verify against the film because the mind does tend to play tricks!

Thanks man - I'll get to them soon. Where are they from so I can quote it?

[Battle Droid]

Tell you the truth I forget where they're from, I've had them saved on my computer for a while, and now I forget where I found them. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Darth Darthy]

Doubt it matters now, ILM hire on project related contract anyhow so EP won't care now. I'm sure you have it T. These two look like they're off to save the Palpatine. Perhaps the loss of gravity came quicker then we originally saw? It's reminiscent of the pipe crawling scene that was cut. Notice the (very) early Jedi Starfighter M2 design.

[T-bone]

OOOOH yea I forgot that one! Actually I think that's anakin and palpy because originally obi-wan went off on his own... I'll add this to the "to do" list! Thanks for reminding me.

[Sluggo]

T, I'm lovin' the cut scenes section. Could we get you to post the scripts you have used there. Particularly the one with Han Solo?

[T-bone]

I don't have all the old scripts - I got that bit from the Making Of book. The only script I have is the one from the Making of eBook that you buy. It's in PDF and you can only view it if you bought it - it has all kinds of wacky security but someone transcribed it and made a Word doc of it. If anyone wants it, I'll post it here. There are some typos and things in it so watch out. Solo is not in this - he's just in the Making of Book. You can pick that up here ---> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=034...onefendersstar/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0345431391/tbonefendersstar/)

[Battle Droid]

Scenes were shot of Sidious walking through the complex on Mustafar, and seeing the carnage of the Separatists, but this slowed the story down to much.

Source: dvd.starwars.com ROTS Depth Commentary.

[T-bone]

OH is that the online one? I can never get that thing to work. Crashes my PC every time, dammit. Does anyone have the complete text to that thing?

[Master Magnus]

Great T!

[Battle Droid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>OH is that the online one? I can never get that thing to work. Crashes my PC every time, dammit. Does anyone have the complete text to that thing?[/b][/quote]

Yeah and here's some, I'll post more later, I type to slow, and it won't let me copy and paste.

Episode III was shot over several stints od studio photography from 2003 to 2005. Dates of shooting will be referenced throughtout this text commnetary.

The first stint was from June through September 2003 at Fox Studios Austrailia, and lasted 58 shoots days.

This was followed by 11 days of additional photography in August-September 2004 in Shepperton Studios, England.

There was one final day of pick-ups at Elstree Studios on January 31, 2005.

The main title musical cue heard here is one recorded for Episode I, It was also used to start off Episode II.

Althought no one involved in the production would outright confirm it, the title of Revenge of the Sith was always the working title of Episode III.

It was officially confirmed at Comic-Con International 2004 to a huge fan response.

Starting the crawl with "War!" echoes vintage newsreels from World War II. It's also a nice counterpoint to the last spoken word in Episode I: "Peace!"

Grievous' daring attack on the capital was dramatized in the final installments of the Clone Wars cartoon.

The font for the body text is news gothic bold. The film title is in univers light ultra.

A Ventator-class Star Destroyer, with red Republic markings that identify it as part of the Fifth Fleet.

The twinned command bridges are for helm (starboard) and starfighter ops (port).

The sound of the new Jedi starfighter are a mix of the old fighter plus the distinctive wail of a TIE fighter.

The fighters buzz past a DBY-827 heavy turbolaser turret.

The animators took care to have these fighters supernaturally coordinated -- Anakin and Obi-Wan are just that in tune with one another.

The animatic of this shot had the fighters pierce a "sound barrier" of sorts, unleashing a ripple effect when they begin thier power drive.

Though the Venators are hugh at 1,137 meters in length, they're still dwarfed by the 3,170-meter diameter Trade federation battleships.

For Episode I, the technology did not exist to create numerous ships of scale digitally -- that's why the Trade Federation battleships were practical models back then.

Now, computers can handle multiple ships of this detail.

These explosions are digital as well, created by dynamic fluid simulations.

The blue beam emerging from the Destroyer is actually a carried SPHA-T walker, repurposed for space gunnery.

Note the patches of ionic discharge dancing across the battleship's surface in the background.

The cockpit shots for both Obi-Wan and Anakin were shots on August 11, 2003 -- Day 31 of principal photography.

By sound alone, you can tell when you're in Anakin's cockpit -- his fighter has a higher pitched sound to it.

The Xi Char Cathedral Factories droid starfighter was first seen in Episode I, but we never saw it transform on screen until now.

The HUD screens of the clone fighters resemble those found aboard the X-wing fighter in A New Hope.

Captain "Odd Ball" Davijaan and Squad Seven fly Incom/Subpro ARC-170 starfighters dispatched from the Star Destroyer Ro-ti-Mundi.

S-foils serve to distribute shield energy and radiate excess heat. They can also extend weapons coverage, but none of these ships have S-foil ounted weaponry.

Han Solo says "Here's where the fun begins!" in Episode IV.

Producer Rick McCallum likes to claim that this is him as the clone pilot flying though space.

The symbol on the side pf this clone's helmet is the same as the one found on Boba Fett's chestplate.

The cokcpit was so small for Hayden Christensen's height that he could not put his feet on the stirrup pedals without his knees intruding into the picture, so in forward shots like these, his feet are actually dangling out of the empty window at the front of the fighter.

In the animatic, the blossoming explosion in the opening shot was actually a starship launching dozens of tri-fighters with missle-like booster pods accelerating them into combat.

The battle droid crew of the Banking Clan frigate is actually visible though the viewports.

The design of the Jedi starfighter HUD is meant to resemble the HUD darth Vader has aboard his TIE fighter in Episode IV.

The cockpit set was stationary, but surrounded by ring-mounted lights that provided the illusion of movement.

Anakin is flying past a Commerce Guild Recussant-class support ship.

The full size fighter built in Sydney had a neutral paint job. For shots of astromech droids, the fighter was painted accordingly -- yellow for Anakin, red for Obi-Wan.

If you look carefully at the Trade Federation battleship that ends this shot, it has a Venator caught in it's arms.

At one point, Lucas requested this rocket have flapping wings like a goose.

As you can see in this shot, there's actually no was a full-sized astromech droid can fit into a jedi starfighter

... it's a visual cheat to allow R2-D2 to fit into a slim design of the ship.

When R4-P17 was designed for Episode II, she had no body -- she was just a head in a ship. The need to design a body for her to fit into the Episode III fighter came at the last minute.

The decapitation of R4-P17 was shot practically on the ILM stage will a full-size starfighter.

The buzz droid shape was originally defined in concept art depicting a much larger battlefield droid.

The laserbeam in this opening battle are color coded -- the Separatists have red beams, the Republic has green and blue.

Obi-Wan closes his S-foil in this shot.

This shot appears in the teaser trailer flipped left-to-right.

This shot appeared in the Episode III teaser trailer.

In the original script the buzz droids would blind Kenobi's viewport with smoke, not frost.

Buzz droid's outer shell is made of head-dissipating material that allows it to penetrate most particle shields.

The sides of the Jedi starfighters say "ELBERT MARIE" in Aurebesh.

This is a new tool, of sorts, for R2-D2...

It is modeled after his electroshock prod seen in Return of the Jedi, but here it comes out of a cranial port and not a body door.

This suggests that Artoo's tools have either been swapped in the years in between, or that Artoo can move his internal tools around to produce them from different surface ports.

Anakin in the cockpit in this shot is a digital double.

The General's command ship is a Providence-class carrier named the Invisible Hand.

In the original trilogy, budgetary and compositing limitations dictated that the atmopheric sheilds of the Death Star be visible; here, these sheilds have a blue sheen since the needs of storytelling require the viewer to see them.

The retaining latches that pop and unleash the blast doors were given red hazard lights to help better visually explain what was happening in the scene.

An earlier iteration of this shot appears in the trailer with subtle differences than the finshed shot.

In the trailer, the shot is closer to the hanger, and the door continues to shut past where it cuts in the film.

The remaining S-foil on Obi-Wan's starfighter pops open during it's skid. It stays open in subsequent shots.

The hangar bay scene was shot on August 12, 2003 -- Day 32 of principal photography. It also features some shots picked up on August 26, 2004 -- Day 4 of additional photography.

Note the MTT Multi Troop Transport in the background, last seen in Episode I.

The hangar bay environment was a 16 foot by 16 foot minature that was mirrored twice to form the full hangar.

Inserts of Obi-Wan and Anakin discussing thier next steps in the hangar were shot as pick-ups on August 26, 2004 -- Day 4 of additional photography.

This is the first time we've seen that Artoo's blue arms are articulated. Before, he simply used them to tap the escape pod button in Episode IV.

Note that the bodyguard droids each carry a different style of electrostaff.

During principal photography, the idea of Grievous tracking the Jedi from the bridge was not planned, so this footage of the Jedi running is lifted from another scene and processed for display screen use.

Ben Burtt is providing the voice of Captain Lushros Dofine, who is played by Colin Ware.

The elevator lobby attack was shot on Jube 30, 2003 -- Day 1 of principal photography

In shots such as this, where it was only CG characters, the backgrounds are typically digital as well. In this case, it is a digital background model skinned with high-resolution photographs of the actual set built.

The elevator interiors were shot on July 1, 2003 -- Day 2 of principal photography.

A rumor on set was that 31174 was in reference to March 11, 1974, a date Lucas could have possibly begun writing the first draft screenplay for Star Wars but that was never confirmed.

The elevator roof scenes were shot on July 1, 2004 -- Day 2 of principal photography.

This scene was shot against a 1/4 scale "Hero wall" minature, with a digital Artoo.

This shot of Obi-Wan was picked up against bluescreen on August 26, 2004 -- Day 4 of additional photography.

Note that this shot was reversed in editorial -- the red dots on the super battle droids shoulders and the weapon arms are on the opposite sides

This particular shot of Anakin climbing back in was shot on July 4, 2003 -- Day 5 of principal photography.

This super battle droid is crying out "My eyes! My eyes!"

Anakin recieved the scar on his brow from a duel with Asajj Ventress, a dark side follower, during the Clone Wars, according to the Star Wars: Republic comics.

In the shooting script, the action with Artoo and the droids was a bit more involved, including a see-saw gag that would have Artoo catapulting droids by landing on a unbalanced beam.

The shooting script had more action in the hangar, so Artoo doesn't leave so easily. He is instead shot by a third super battle droid that appears.

The elevator lobby is virtual; Anakin and Obi-Wan were shot against bluescreen long after the original set was destroyed.

The lobby is used three times in the movie: 1) outside the hangar, 2) entering the General's Quarters, 3) somewhere amidships, after escaping with the Chancellor.

The tulip-shaped duty stations ate the same design as those seen aboard the Death Star in Episodes In and VI.

On set, Palpatine's shackles were clearly oversized -- he could have taken his hands out at any time. ILM shortened the gap around his wrists, and added a scintillating energy sheen.

The General's Quarters were shot on September 3, 4, and 5, 2003 -- Days 48 through 50 of principal photography.

The sound of a TIE fighter engine suggests that there are other Jedi starfighters in battle -- but it should be noted that V-wings also make a similar wail.

The first pass of this digital Dooku jump actually resembled a scene in the Clone Wars animated series, with Dooku gently lowering himself to the ground. Lucas wanted something more dynamic, though.

Elements of Count Dooku were shot on July 31 and August 1, 2003 -- Days 24 and 25 of principal photography.

Christopher Lee never set foot on this set. It was built after he completed his work on Episode III. He is in a digitally recreated environment here.

Obi-Wan's lightsaber has switched hands when he lands.

During shooting of this scene, Hayden Christensen was favoring a sore leg, which can be seen as he makes his way up the staircase.

This was shot on Wedmesday, September 1, 2004. It's stunt double Dan Robinson as Dooku here.

This shot of Anakin was gathered on July 31, 2005.

This looks much worse than it really is -- the weight of the balcony is carried by it's undercarriage. Obi-Wan (a digital double here) is in between the carriage's main "feet" when they hit the deck.

To clarify, Dooku's lightsaber goes flying from Anakin's hands, not Dooku's. Anakin's already grabbed it from him before he cuts off his hands.

The death of Dooku was shot on July 31, 2003 -- Day 24 of principal photography.

The early draft screenplays had Palpatine revealing that Dooku arranged for the Tusken Raiders to kill Anakin's mother. but that outrageous claim was dropped early on.

Part of the sound that accompanies this slice is a ghastly exhalation.

Note the digital hands lying on the ground

Note Dooku's head lying on the floor on top right of frame.

This is Star Destroyer Guarlara approaching the Invisible Hand.

Look carefully to spot the SRT "forklift" droids servicing the weapns canisters.

These are mass driver projectile cannons, with secondary ion cannon barrels not currently firing.

Listen carefully for the classic "Wilhelm" scream that appears in every Star Wars movie...

it's named after an ill-fated cowboy named Wilhelm who lets out the scream in a 1953 Western, The Charge at Feather River.

For scenes such as this, Hayden Christensen is actually carrying a lightweight and lifelike dummy of Ewan McGregor.

While the look of the Separatist cannons correspond with what is on the outside of the ship, the Republic turrets do not resemble the single-barrel laser cannons the clones are seen to be firing.

[T-bone]

I'm actually in the process of doing it now - don't worry about posting the rest. I'm going thru the whole thing. I got it to actually work! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Battle Droid]

Ok, cool! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Master Magnus]

^^So, will you transcribe it for us, T? (If it's allowed of course.)

[T-bone]

yea once i get through it all.
it's time consuming but i'll email it to whoever wants one.

[T-bone]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Battle Droid]

New pic for the Another Happy Landing section.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/explor...ap20060104.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/explore/sithsnap/2006/01/sithsnap20060104.html)

[T-bone]

Yep thanks - that's another one on my to do list ...man i'm behind already!

[Master Magnus]

^Keep going, T! We're all behind you.

[T-bone]

Ok - well I added those items you guys posted here real fast last night, so thanks for that. I got confused when I saw that "happy exit" photo because I thought it was already in my "to do" pile when in fact i had a similar shot from a different angle already posted up. that "happy exit" was from last night's sw.com update. it's all starting to look the same now...ack! anyhow, they're up and I added a few other small things in my "to do" list. Nothing all that great - alternate angle of padme waking up, very slight alternate angle of mace in a JC chair, shot of obi-wan kneeling down - nothing exciting.

[Battle Droid]

You might want to add that alternate scene where Sidious asks Gunray if he's shut down his droid armies, it's on one of the web docs. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[T-bone]

Hmm - i better check some other pages because i remember adding that in from the screenplay...hmm..... i might have deleted it accidentally cutting and pasting but i'll have a look when i get home.

[Battle Droid]

Oh, you have a pic of it from the comic, my mistake, sorry.

[T-bone]

ah that must be it, then.
maybe it wasn't in the published screenplay but i'll try to make note of it textually later on some time...
thanks.

i knew i remembered seeing it.

[Battle Droid]

Except in the pic only Nute answers him, Sidious must've asked in the panel before that.

[T-bone]

yea - i'll get it together tonight.
not sure what happened there - but i'll fix it.
it was surely my intention to add it in there.

[T-bone]

Originally posted by Battle Droid@Jan 5 2006, 12:58 PM
You might want to add that alternate scene where Sidious asks Gunray if he's shut down his droid armies, it's on one of the web docs. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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i haven't "re-gone" through the webdocs yet.
is there actual footage of something deleted in there?

[Battle Droid]

It's not a completed scene it was taped for the webdoc, it's on The Creatures of Episode III Webdoc 13.

[T-bone]

Ok thanks - it's actually webdoc 15 and I added it to an extra paragraph at the bottom of the page. I have to go through those webdocs again soon. I need a breather.

[Master Magnus]

T, in the "Trailer Walking" set of ROTS deleted scenes, you wrote the following:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Ki-Adi-Mundi had a similar experience in the trailer. In the actual trailer, he's seen in what looks like it might be indoors but in the final cut of the film, he's on Mygeeto in that snow environment. In the world of bluescreen, he or Anakin could have ended up just about anywhere.[/b][/quote]
I don't remember from where I heard this, but the Mygeeto environment hadn't been finalized yet, and so a background shot of the completed Jedi Temple hangar (the same background used when Bail Organa witnesses the killing of Zett Jukassa) was inserted for the trailer.

[T-bone]

yes that's right.

[Master Magnus]

Another deleted scene I was thinking of. The British Empire magazine had a SW special last year. I glanced through it at a international magazine store I visit occasionally and there was a picture of a deleted scene from ROTJ showing Vader and Luke walking through the Death Star II hangar (on their way to the Emperor's tower). I thought I would buy the magazine later (I was in a hurry), but when I got back to the store a few days later it was already sold-out. While it's not perhaps a deleted scene per se but rather a trim, I thought it was interesting since I had never heard of that trim before.

EDIT: I was able to find out that it was featured in the June 2005 issue of the Empire magazine.

[T-bone]

This one?
If you have a better scan, please send it over though :)

[jayce78]

Ha T , . . .buddy

As silly & fanboyish as it sounds to even myself :bop:

Do you think it would be a good idea as we get more & more closer to '2007' too mabie get a cut scene petition going?

I mean something really good / not outragious and stupid :ok:

Mabie have a serious vote / or choices to vote on / or something like that?

I just think if anyone should do that sort of thing it should be T-Bone 'U' know!

Belive me I know your a busy guy :)

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8955/dogfight9jb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Don't mean to interupt the flow(LOL)

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by T'bone@Feb 25 2006, 10:31 PM
This one?
If you have a better scan, please send it over though :)
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Yes, that's the one! Unfortunately I don't have a better scan though...

[T-bone]

I'm not a fan of petitions.

[empire21]

Hey T your review on the DVDs was just what I was looking for in regards to the question I ask of you, and I also notice your update with the cut scenes on ROTS in which i'll be reading tonight at work, I gotta get paid for doing something :p

[jayce78]

Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 26 2004, 11:16 PM
Anyone remember this?http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6876/bonelogo6pf.th.jpg (http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bonelogo6pf.jpg)
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Good Lord Yes!! those were such fun days wern't they. . . :thumbs-up:

[T-bone]

OH i remember it well and i'll be dragging a lot of old graphics out of the closet in the next few months... 10 years...jeesh.

[jayce78]

WOW, that'll be great . . . . :)

Haven't seen all that stuff in a long time!! I'll definitly keep my eye out , Good memories :happydance:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8929/obiwanbinoculars039sy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[jayce78]

I seems to be a thread killer :lol: I hope thats not the case!

[Momin327]

Anything new on the site?

[Dark Spork]

Hey T'bone, will this redesign you've mentioned have features that allow you to do more frequent updates?

I was rather perplexed that you posted the initial OOT news to Blogwarz instead of the main site, for instance...