The Ep3 Trailer

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I've been thinking about the Ep3 trailer a lot lately. How it would look and what new scenes would be delivered. What are everyone's ideas? :saber:

[Martini]

i really dont wanna see too much in the trailer cause they can give away most of the movie. i really hope Lucas shows nothing of the lava pit fight scene.

but all i wanna see if Vaders mask and a shot scene of him fighting. :saber:

[JediBendu]

the early trailer's will probably have that - a shadow of the helmet going down jon a scarred, but remarkable young, bald white head, or just the breathing sound over the top of sequence.

The action one's will probaby just be some clone war sequences, a space battle would be my pick.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Bendu! Nice to see you again.

I hope the trailer shows a space battle, a shot of Mace fighting Vader, and Obi-Wan carrying a baby in the desert.

[JediBendu]

you been tracking down Sauron, Gandalf? :p

Obi carrying the baby is a great scene, and already shot. Makes sense when you think the Ewen McGreggor wasn't actually at the shooting.
Imagine listening to Vader's breathing as you watch a baby being passed into the hands of Owen, then cut to Obi walking away into the desert. :cool:

[darthwicker]

I can't wait for the Ep3 trailers.
They'll probably do that whole character thing,
where most of the main players get a little trailer about them.
Just seeing a bit of Obi 1 crying after his duel with Anakin with a very slow force theme in the background would start me off.
Or something really bad happening between Anakin and Padme as the Love theme is playing.

[Handothrawn]

I'd like to see it like this:

Black screen, Vader breathing.
A close up on Anakin's eyes, Vader still breathing.
Clones and Jedi fighting each other, vader still breathing.
Flash of light and a close up of Luke, Vader still breathing.
Flash of light and a close up of Leia, Vader still breathing.
Close-up of Padme crying, Vader still breathing.
Obi-wan screams "Anakin!", breathing stops.
Sounds of a lightsaber turning on.
A from behind shot of a man in a black helmet and wearing a black cape walking.
A close up on Darth Sidious, Sidious starts to pull back his hood and-
Flash of light then: Star Wars Episode III: title
Fades back to black screen, Vader starts breathing again.
Flash: The Begining of the End, The End of the Begining...


Cool huh?

[JediBendu]

Flash: The Begining of the End, The End of the Begining...

I'd probably walk out of the cinema if GL put that in! :roll:

[Handothrawn]

Sorry, I heard that somewhere, can't quite remember though.

[Mann]

Flash Lucasfilm logo
-Music of Confrontation with Dooku and finale
-Flash A shot of the Jedi Temple
-Shot of Yoda saying something like "I sense a dark presence drawing closer"
-Flash as Imperial Star Destroyers loom over the Temple
-Mace says something like "We must fight to preserve the Republic"
And something else, I'm drawing a blank on the rest

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Some really great ideas in here. Let's keep it up! :)

Here's my trailer idea~~
-Fox, Lucasfilm logos
(Music from "Tusken Camp" where Yoda hears Qui-Gon and we hear a bit of the Imperial March.)
-A shot of a very incomplete Death Star
-A shot of Obi-Wan with a lightsaber
-A shot of Dooku "Force-battling" Yoda on Dagobah
-Some Dialogue
-More Dialogue
-Boba Fett placing the helmet on his head
(Vader's breathing stops. The Imperial March played in full, loud, glory.)
-Star Destroyers
-A space battle with X-wings and Naboo Starfighters battling TIEs
-Some Dialogue
(The Love Theme begins)
-Padme holds Leia as she stares off, her eyes are dark with dried tears.
-Anakin sends Obi-Wan flying, using the Force.
-A cloaked masked man looms over Mace Windu, who weilds his purple saber.
(Vader's breathing starts again, now more loud than ever)
-A shot of his helmet.
----Star Wars: Episode III (......)----
A New Journey Begins
May 2005

Or something like that.

[darthwicker]

Just a couple of things I'd like to see in an Ep3 trailer.
The statue of Palpatine being built or unveiled.
Obi 1 being announced as General Kenobi.

[Momin327]

Handofthrawn, your suggestion for the trailer's features are a bit like those from the Episode II breathing trailer. Vader's eery breathing in the background. Good thoughts, but make the trailer look more creative. You shouldn't make it look like a rehash for another trailer.

[bodhisattva yoda]

i don't want to see anything that reveals plot points. nothing.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Good point.
I wouldn't want to hear Vader's breathing until the very end of the trailer. I want dialogue and music. I don't want a teaser trailer. I just want a full blown theatrical trailer. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

On second thought, the trailers should show plot points. Otherwise, the common moviegoer will have no desire to see it, because they just saw some random scenes.

[Mann]

When the Title comes up, the random movie goer will see it, trust me ;)

[JediBendu]

ya
the trailer could just be a blank screen for 29 seconds, the final second having 'Episode III coming May'.
It'll still pack 'em in!

[Mann]

Oh, and Yoda has to say something at the end, he's done it in all the PT trailers.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Good point, I think everyone would get excited, but I'd still want to see some plot points and good scenes.

I already gave my Trailer Breakdown, but I get new visions everyday!

Keep up the good work!

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I want to see a trailer close to the Phantom Menace teaser, or the Clone War trailer. The Ep3 trailer shouldn't just have action scenes and action peices of music. It should have some deeper emotional impact, because this will be the most emotional of the SW films.

I would also want a quick shot of the Anakin/Obi-Wan battle.

[Mann]

The final shot would be them hitting lightsabers.

[maddog62]

I would like to see millions of troops gearing up for a final assault with Anikin leading the way in a fighter perhaps a custom made tie. Some bounty hunters preparing to assasinate certain political leaders and jedi. Palpatine leading a Sith cerimony of some sort. and many Jedi paring off against each other.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Perhaps the custom-made TIE could be Darth Vader's TIE. I'd like to see that too.

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by maddog62@Aug. 07 2002 - 08:15
...and many Jedi paring off against each other.
You mean Jedi fighting Jedi?

Interesting...

Kinda sounds like a "Jedi Civil War".

I never considered that there would be any other Jedi besided Anakin on the side of the Emperor, nor that the Jedi Order itself, as the Republic it serves, would destruct from the inside.

Next to the Clone Wars, that may be the next best explanation of how majority of the Jedi come to be slaughtered that I've heard; the Imperial Loyalists (led by Anakin (hmmm...and Windu? He doesn't even have to be a 'traitor' this way at all. He could simply have a difference of opinion with the rest of the Council)) could spar against the "Rebels" (led by Yoda and perhaps Obi-Wan), and then Anakin/Vader could come in and mop up the remnant.

Cool.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I don't think Mace Windu is going to end up being evil. I believe that he knows more than he says he knows, but I don't think he's evil at all. He'll probably just reveal his mistakes near the end.

I doubt there's going to be a Jedi on Jedi battle, but it would be quite a sight.

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[JediBendu]

I'm just not buying it.
Mace is the quintessential Jedi - there's no way he's acting with any duplicity or malice.
The trailer may show his final [and heroic] lightsaber duel agains a dozen clone troopers and dooku.
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[Mann]

Only to be cut down by Boba Fett at the last minute.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

No way.
Fett will never end up killing Mace. Absolutely not. GL has already said that Fett will have a small, backround role. I would be pretty angry if the highly-skilled Master Windu was cut down by some kid.

Vader is the only one strong enough to dispose of Mace. Its the proper demise for an awesome character like him.

In my Trailer Breakdown, I listed a shot of Vader looming over Mace as one of the shots that I'd like to see in the trailer.
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[Darth Rasanac]

yeah. That would be pretty dull if a kid finished off a Jedi

Master, even if that Jedi killed his father. Vader's going to be

the only one strong enough to take on Mace. Plus with a ton

storm/clone troopers by his side, Windu won't have a chance

and he will finally be put to rest.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Haven't seen this topic in a while. Thanks.

[Baron Rasadar]

I would really like to see Mace Windu get killed by Darth Vader, but I don't really care. As far as I'm concerned, as long as Windu dies, I'm happy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Vegas]

This is how the teaser is going to go:

20th Century Fox and Lucasfilm logos appear and fade, as "Emporer's throne room" theme plays on-

Obi-Wan begins to speak, "I thought that I could train him just as well as Yoda", as he says this we see Padme, the twins, Anakin fighting in the Clone wars (No sound except Obi-Wans voice and the music).

Then we see Anakin about to fight Obi-Wan, "I was wrong".

The music changes to the Imperial Theme as we see images of Anakin being reconstructed-

STAR WARS: EPISODE III- RISE OF THE EMPIRE

This spring, the Empire reigns.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Sounds cool. I like the way you think, Agent Bond.

[Darth_Stinky]

The trailer opens with Yoda meditating and a look of shock crosses his face

Yoda: No......

Mace Windu: What's wrong Master Yoda?

Cuts to a scene between Anakin and Padme against a sunset and Padme is crying, Anakin begins to smile as the Love theme dissolves into the Imperial March.

Yoda: Forever has he fallen.......

Mace Windu: Who?

Cut to a scene where Obi-Wan is being held back by Stormtroopers

Obi-Wan: Anakin!!!! No!!!!

The music from the Final Jedi Duel plays as TIE Fighters swarm over Naboo and TIE Bombers dropping bombs on the Jedi Temple.

Vader's breathing comes over as a slow motion scene of Anakin walking flanked by Imperial guards.

Cut back to Yoda

Yoda: The darkside has claimed him......

A hiss of a lightsaber and a red blade illuminates Anakin's face in the dark, and he starts slashing. A clash between Obi-Wan and Anakin's lightsabers ignites a bright light that turns black and into the flowing black cape of Vader. Trailer fades into title and release date.

[Javen]

Lightsabers flashing in the dark,Yoda landing on Dagobah
Anakin putting on the helmit from behind,Mace being surrounded,Obi Wan with Luke,Emperor with Dooku,more Lightsaber duels oh yeah and another Saber Duel

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Sounds awesome, Javen. I really like that.

[Darth Rasanac]

Yes, I agree with you too Javen.

[Darth Vegas]

I want to see anything I can recognize instantly, without having the movie given away.

I'll wait to see any trailers for Episode 3 until some of my friends and family see them, because I want just a tease, not the whole movie in a 3 minute nutshell.

I was very dissapointed when they gave away that the clones are indeed clones of Jango Fett in the AOTC trailer, they better not give anything away on this one.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Well, it doesn't matter to me, because I'm a spoiler junkie. By the time the trailers are released I'll know most of the plot.

[Handothrawn]

All the PT trailers have ended with a flash of light, then the title, I think it'd be cool to see Darth Sidious pull back his hood, but just before we see his face, we get the flash an title, just to tick us all off.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

That'd be pretty cool. I know it'd probably be impossible for Ep3 to have its own logo, but that'd be cool.

The things I really want to see are: Yoda fighting Dooku on Dagobah, X-wings, Mace vs. Vader, and many other things that can be fit into a trailer. I really like Javen's ideas too.

[Handothrawn]

No, I hope there aren't X-wings, I wan't to see Z-95's.

[Javen]

I think there should be alot of dark themes in it.

[Siamese Sith]

For a quick teaser trailer, I think something simple like this would get everyone pumped! (similar to T2 teaser trailer)
Fox & Lucasfilm logos appear then fade to black then sparks illuminate the screen with the sounds of machines whirling, clicking, drilling, screwing. Fade to black/ feint sound of Vader breathing, more sounds of machines drilling, screwing, whirling, quick shot of a cybernetic arm being attached to chared human torso so fast you'll question what you just saw) fade to black, Vaders breathing gets increasingly louder, a cybernetic hand grasps lightsabre hilt fade to black. Millions of tiny stars appear in the darkness Vaders breathing at it's loudest, shadows begin to destort the night sky and the stars begin to shift as if on a reflection. As the camera pans back you realize it was a SUPER close up of the front of Vader's helmet from one eye! Vader's breathing cuts out to the Imperial march as his helmet fills the screen, the sound of a lightsaber is heard igniting and red light illuminates his helmet. Then a red flash, then Episode III spring 2005 appears. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

[Lord Laviathan]

Hopefully it will not give anthing away. After we see it will know only what we knew before seeing it, except it will pump us up for the release.

Maybe it will show us a space battle,and the new bornes,then maybe Anakin then a quick fliker of the mask.

of coarse we all know that Vader still looked like Hayden until he substained his injuries. So we will probably not see much of the Vader we all know and love till the end.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I don't really care about any key plot points. I a spoiler junkie and by the time AOTC had its first trailer, I knew a lot of stuff, so I'm impartial over that.

[Darth Fett]

Originally posted by Siamese Sith@Nov 25 2002, 12:35 AM
For a quick teaser trailer, I think something simple like this would get everyone pumped! (similar to T2 teaser trailer)
Fox & Lucasfilm logos appear then fade to black then sparks illuminate the screen with the sounds of machines whirling, clicking, drilling, screwing. Fade to black/ feint sound of Vader breathing, more sounds of machines drilling, screwing, whirling, quick shot of a cybernetic arm being attached to chared human torso so fast you'll question what you just saw) fade to black, Vaders breathing gets increasingly louder, a cybernetic hand grasps lightsabre hilt fade to black. Millions of tiny stars appear in the darkness Vaders breathing at it's loudest, shadows begin to destort the night sky and the stars begin to shift as if on a reflection. As the camera pans back you realize it was a SUPER close up of the front of Vader's helmet from one eye! Vader's breathing cuts out to the Imperial march as his helmet fills the screen, the sound of a lightsaber is heard igniting and red light illuminates his helmet. Then a red flash, then Episode III spring 2005 appears. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif
Damn, I had a similar idea about the eye of Vader but you posted yours first.

Anyway, at some point in the trailer I'd like to see Anakin in pain while we hear the voice of Palpatine/Sidius saying "I will complete your trainning".

[Siamese Sith]

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[Renekame_3rd]

Some great theories, the trailer needs to be suspensful. Lots of not being able to see what's going on.

We must see Luke and Leia, a shot of Vader and a clash of sabers. Then Yoda must say a kool line.

When was a scene filmed of obi-wan carrying a baby? I thought Luke and Leia were supposed to be about 4 at the start of the next one.

[Handothrawn]

The very first teaser, the one that doesn't reveal much, I think it'd be cool if we saw just a bright pool of molten something, lava, metal, whatever, and just a charred hand rise out, and then the trailer ends, that'd be the best I could think of.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

For the trailer, I think I'd like to see something that shows me some footage of the film. I'd be pretty ticked if it was just some graphic and then the title. I want to see some battles, some CG stuff, and other stuff from the movie.

[Renekame_3rd]

I don't mind a slong as it's suspenseful and doesn't give away too much of the movie.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I think for the trailer music, I'd like to hear Track 5 of Return of the Jedi and with a slow Vader's Theme at the end.

I think the X-2 trailer is a pretty good example of what it should look like. It gives us a hint at what action we can expect from the film, but doesn't reveal much; only that more of Logan/Wolverine's past will be explained. Its just set up nicely with suspenseful, brooding music and showing the date of release with vigor.

It should be that way.

[Streen]

I would want the 1st one to be just flashs.

Yoda walking in a swamp.
Padme screaming in birth bangs
An expolsion in the Jedi Temple
A worried look on Bail Organa's face
Qui-Gon's ghost with his head hung. (A MUST)
A smiling Palaptine.
A shocked Dooku
And.....a furious Anakin.

-Streen

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I'm not sure if the twins' birth should actually be onscreen. I'd prefer if they were born in between scenes.

[X-3PO]

I don't want to see anything! Just hear sounds from the movie!

[Mann]

For the teaser: Its the same as the breathing trailer
First a clip of Yoda in his chair
Then of The Senate
Then of a group of People on Coruscant
Then a worried Padme (Face only)
Bail staring out a window
a Shot of a Star Destroyer
A shot of the Jedi Temple on fire
The last Army of Jedi facing against an Army of Storm troopers march at them
Shot of Mace preparing to charge
Shot of Obiwan dueling a man in black
Shot of a really pissed off Anakin
blackness, breathing continues, then :"what is thy bidding my master?"

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

That's pretty cool, Mann.
I like the idea of the Jedi facing off against the Stormtroopers, and of Obi-Wan facing a man in black.

For a more theatrical trailer, I'd like to see a quick clip of Anakin facing off against Obi-Wan and a space battle or something. That's all I'm asking for. And a shot of Vader's helmet as he breathes.

[Mann]

Thanx Gandalf. I appreciate it.

For the theatrical Trailer, the ending should be that of Obi-wan and Anakin locking lightsabers with a Huge flash which morphs into Episode III logo

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Yeah, something like that.

[JediBendu]

And a shot of Vader's helmet as he breathes.


I'd say the breathing will be constant throughout the first preview.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Yeah, maybe, but I want the teaser to have some dialogue like the Phantom Menace teaser.

[Handothrawn]

GL will probably do something like the Forbidden Love trailer again.

For that I think it would would be cool to begin with Anakin and Padme embrace. With the music from ANH when Luke is looking out over the sunsets playing through out the trailer gradually becoming lower and darker as the scenes get darker.

I also just got a brainstorm while reading JediBendu's sig.

Mace is sitting in the Meditation Chamber reading a scroll out loud: "In the time of greatest despair." Then we see Padme crying. Mace starts again; "There shall come a savior." Then we see a really pissed Anakin ignite a red lightsaber. Then Mace speaks again; "And he shall be known as the Son of the Suns." And finally they show a clip of Obi-Wan wlaking off into the Dune Sea.


Thanks for the inspiration Bendu.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

-Fox, Lucasfilm logos
-A shot of a very incomplete Death Star
-A shot of Obi-Wan with a lightsaber
-A shot of Dooku "Force-battling" Yoda on Dagobah
-Some Dialogue
-More Dialogue
-Boba Fett placing the helmet on his head
(Vader's breathing stops. The Imperial March played in full, loud, glory.)
-Star Destroyers
-A space battle with X-wings and Naboo Starfighters battling TIEs
-Some Dialogue
(The Love Theme begins)
-Padme holds Leia as she stares off, her eyes are dark with dried tears.
-Anakin sends Obi-Wan flying, using the Force.
-A cloaked masked man weilding a red lightsaber looms over Mace Windu..
(Vader's breathing starts again, now more loud than ever)
-A shot of his helmet.
----Star Wars: Episode III (......)----
A New Journey Begins
May 2005

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

We can probably expect the Indy 4 trailer around the time of the Ep3 trailer.

[Mann]

I don't think the Death Star will be in this movie. If it takes 17 years to make it, then the Empire is very slow. I think we just saw the how the plans were obtainned.

[Javen]

Anakin facing Obi Wan and ignites his saber.
Anakin"I'm sorry, but I must do this"
Obi Wan"Then meet your destiny"
Palpitine and Dooku together
Flash of a purple saber against a red one.
Obi Wan calling out to Anakin in the dark.
Start Destroyer and Clone troopers boarding it.
Yoda's face is disturbed and then entering a ship.
Qui-Gon's voice
Mace surrounded
Padme fleeing
Palpitine with a Black caped figure.
Anakin and Obi wan flashing saber's in the dark.
Then fades to Vader breathing.

[Renekame_3rd]

I'd like this:

-Episode III title on a black background. With release date underneath.
-Very faint vader breathing in the background.
-Sound of marching feet
-qui gon speaking
-two sabers igniting
-Mace quoting something kool (don't know what (a death quote))
-Yoda also quoting one of the most memorable Star wars quotes ever
-'COMING SOON' in big writing

I don't wana see any pictures style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I want all suspense.

[Mann]

no pictures? that's like listening to the radio. Movies are all about Pictures!

[Renekame_3rd]

I know. But i think it would make it more suspensful.

Although, that's only cos im a huge Star Wars fan. GL will put pictures in it to appeal to the movie goers who aren't so huge on it. They won't want a suspense trailer if they don't know what it's being suspensful about.

[Mann]

The Best Star Wars Trailer was Episdoe I's That trailer was excellent (though it made the movie look better than it was). I hope he makes one like that.

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 5 2003, 11:44 PM
The Best Star Wars Trailer was Episode I's. That trailer was excellent. I hope he makes one like that.
I agree, that trailer was great. I hope its like that.

[Renekame_3rd]

I can't remember ANY trailers, even Episode II style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Phil Tinajero]

To dust the cobwebs off this thread, I just want to ask what movie do you think we'll get the trailer on? Spider-Man 2? Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban? Hmm, I wonder.

[Darth Vegas]

Nothing until around November or December of 2004.

Spidey 2 will be summer 2004 more than likely, so probably Harry Potter, which means I'll walk out after seeing the trailer, of course I'd walk out after seeing the triler if it was playing with Spidey.

[Mann]

Star Wars trailers start up around a year before they release, so Spiderman would probably be a good bet. Though It just got shifted back a while. Oh and Harry Potter is set for June 2004 I believe.

[bodegage]

I saw Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban coming out in June 2004, a bit early for when you suggested, TK-007. The new Superman and Batman projects may screen the trailer if they get made by then and it is highly doubtful. Possibly "The Punisher" if it is delayed. It looks like it's coming along well though. Only time will tell.

[Mann]

I must have telepathy, or people don't read.

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by TK-007@May 3 2003, 10:44 PM
of course I'd walk out after seeing the triler if it was playing with Spidey.
I love it when I totally agree with someone. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[bodegage]

Sorry bout that. I hit ADD REPLY before i found the exact date for Harry Potter. Knew it was changed but didn't know when to.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 3 2003, 07:57 PM
Star Wars trailers start up around a year before they release, so Spiderman would probably be a good bet. Though It just got shifted back a while. Oh and Harry Potter is set for June 2004 I believe.
Oh...well anyway, the first SW3 trailer is supposed to be out at the end of next year.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf+May 3 2003, 08:13 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jedi Master Gandalf @ May 3 2003, 08:13 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-TK-007@May 3 2003, 10:44 PM
of course I'd walk out after seeing the triler if it was playing with Spidey.
I love it when I totally agree with someone. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif [/b][/quote]
Yeah that's always nice, especially when it came to the Ultimate Edition debate...

[Mann]

I believe they will rush the trailer to try and get some hype going. I mean they did it with the last two movies. A year long campaign doesn't hurt box office.

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by TK-007@May 3 2003, 11:22 PM
Yeah that's always nice, especially when it came to the Ultimate Edition debate...
Ahhh, memories.....

Those were some hectic times, old buddy. And as I recall, you were my most faithful ally.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 3 2003, 08:23 PM
I believe they will rush the trailer to try and get some hype going. I mean they did it with the last two movies. A year long campaign doesn't hurt box office.
I would hope so, I mean, they could even gather footage from Episode 2 and 1 and have Old Ben's voice just speak over it, "I thought that I could train him..."

It would be such a tease, but that's what hypes people up about a movie, not a trailer that give it all away (like AOTC).

[Phil Tinajero]

I hope they go right into a proper Teaser Trailer. I loved the Breating trailer, but it was somewhat half-ass now that I look back. I want dialogue, sound, and music.

This is the last SW movie! Everything has to be kicked up three notches; including the marketing.

[Darth Vegas]

Well, as late along as the breathing trailer came yes, but if they're going to give us a trailer a year in advance, it'll be pretty small.

Whatever they do, they must not attempt a Vader version of "Yoda-da-man!!". style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

[bodegage]

Heres my idea for the trailer.

Lucasfilms logo is shown.
We hear soft music has screen turns black.
We see Anakin and Padme in embrace.
We see a pregnant Padme (maybe?)
We see the twins.
Someone, Obi-Wan or Yoda maybe, says "We must hide them"
We see Obi-Wan carrying Luke on Tattooine.
Leia is in Padme's arms. She is with Bail Organa.
Soft music stops.
Close up of Anakin (pre-suit) He has a sinister expression.
Imperial Theme plays.
We see clone wars.
Mace Windu fighting.
Dialogue from Obi-Wan about Anakin turning to the dark side and how he could not control him.
Dooku holding his lightsaber as the beam contracts.
Palpatine telling Anakin to join him Example: "They did not help you. I am the only one who cared. Join me."
We see Anakin holding his head in frustration. In a voice over Qui-Gonn says something like "Resist the temptations of the Dark Side Anakin."
We see Sidious reaching towards Anakin.
We see an overhead glimpse of the lava planet. Two figures who we barely see each have lightsabers. The shot lasts a split second as a Red lightsaber clashes with a blue lightsaber. These people are obviously Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Theme stops.
Yoda says something about Anakin being lost.
Title appears.
Then coming soon or release date.
Black screen.
We hear Vader breathing.
His maks appears from the darkness.

END

[Mann]

Your trailer sounds good, but move the Luke and Leia stuff to the end, to keep with continuity. I agree that the last shot should be of Obi-Wan and Anakin locking Lighsabers. After that the flash engulfs the screen where the title shows up.

[Darth Vegas]

That's nice, I'm sure we'll see trailers like that, but I like the idea of an OT based campaign like the one I made here. (http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=2032&st=160)

[Mann]

I like it Bond, has a good way of making the trilogies connect.

however, the voice of Alec Guiness may not be used, he died owning the rights to it. Only the films which contain his voice can be used.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 3 2003, 09:27 PM
however, the voice of Alec Guiness may not be used, he died owning the rights to it. Only the films which contain his voice can be used.
Uh since when does Guiness doesn't own the rights to his voice track from ROTJ?

[Phil Tinajero]

That's pretty good, bodegage. I think the last shot of the trailer should be Anakin and Obi-Wan locking lightsabers.

I want fighting, space battle shots, and the the Imperial March/Vader's Theme playing in full glory, plus a whole lot of other stuff.

[Mann]

Uh since when does Guiness doesn't own the rights to his voice track from ROTJ?

since he died. why don't you think they haven't used his voice in games? The voice clips are not allowed. they use wannabees.

[Phil Tinajero]

I don't think Lucas would use sound clips from the OT. Even though that particularly sounds pretty cool. I never knew about Guiness owning the rights to his voice.

[Mann]

Actually, I just discovered this while in a haircut place yesterday. I was reading a magazine which detailed the new OT computer game and it said that Guiness's voice was not used because he wouldn't let them use it, unless it was actually in the OT.

[Darth Vegas]

Are you referring to SW Galaxies?

I would like to know what magazine this is.

[Mann]

No, It was a Gamer's Magazine. Not star Wars related, but contained the OT as the cover.

[Darth Vegas]

Well, if they can find a guy that almost perfectly matches Harrison's Fords voice, they can do so for Guiness ala Ewan Mcgregor, or some unknown.

That just sucks, I'd still like to here an official word on that before I'm completely convinced.

[Phil Tinajero]

I'm sure Lucas will find some way to bring a touch of OT to the trailer.

[Mann]

That just sucks, I'd still like to here an official word on that before I'm completely convinced.

It was annouced probably when Guiness died. However, Maybe Lucas got him to do some clips before. Most likely not since he never really like the OT.

[Darth Vegas]

I like the idea of a whole commercial campaign doing with some OT dialgoue talking about specific moments in the Classic Trilogy referring to the Episode 3, but it could just work out with the posters, probably won't happen at all, but it would be nice.

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by TK-007@May 4 2003, 11:36 AM
I like the idea of a whole commercial campaign doing with some OT dialgoue talking about specific moments in the Classic Trilogy referring to the Episode 3, but it could just work out with the posters, probably won't happen at all, but it would be nice.
I totally agree; that'd be awesome. It would connect nicely.

Rick McCallum recently said that there were little things in EP3 that would connect with the OT in really cool ways. Maybe Ewan McGregor could start holding his belt like Guiness used to do.

[Darth Vegas]

Ooo, that's a must, and of course the vocal impression should be much greater.

And to top it off, give him back his old lightsaber. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Mann]

Bond, I like the idea. You should write in and suggest it.

[Phil Tinajero]

I already tried. Twice.

No response from Lucas or McGregor.

[Mann]

keep the letters/email coming. One a day and they can't ignore you forever!

[Phil Tinajero]

You're right. I'll keep at it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

McGregor seems to have a lot of Guiness' old mannerisms down, except the belt-holding thing.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 4 2003, 08:49 AM
Bond, I like the idea. You should write in and suggest it.
Been there, done that, no response. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unhappy.gif

But it won't keep me from trying...

[Phil Tinajero]

Mann's right. They can't ignore us forever.

Although, they can ignore us until September when shooting stops.... ???

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah, it helps to have more people involved, I'm sure we're not alone on this one.

LFL must get millions of fan letters.

[Mann]

What's a few million more emails? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Just a drop in the bucket I'm sure.

[Phil Tinajero]

Do you think Obi-Wan will have at least some gray hair in EP3? Losing your pupil to the Dark Side and being a general in the Clone Wars could do that to you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[P-Ray]

Hey,how can I get GL's address (Lucasfilms) to write him? I don't know if this a No No or not but can someone provide the address to me? Thanks.

[Phil Tinajero]

George Lucas
PO Box 2009
San Rafael
CA 94912
USA

This is the only one that I could find. But note that I've sent him dozens of letters and there have been no successes.

[Count Dookie]

Originally posted by Handothrawn@Aug 3 2002, 02:00 PM
I'd like to see it like this:

Black screen, Vader breathing.
A close up on Anakin's eyes, Vader still breathing.
Clones and Jedi fighting each other, vader still breathing.
Flash of light and a close up of Luke, Vader still breathing.
Flash of light and a close up of Leia, Vader still breathing.
Close-up of Padme crying, Vader still breathing.
Obi-wan screams "Anakin!", breathing stops.
Sounds of a lightsaber turning on.
A from behind shot of a man in a black helmet and wearing a black cape walking.
A close up on Darth Sidious, Sidious starts to pull back his hood and-
Flash of light then: Star Wars Episode III: title
Fades back to black screen, Vader starts breathing again.
Flash: The Begining of the End, The End of the Begining...


Cool huh?
I was reading the posting from the beginning and I really like this one. I to don't want to see too much. I want to have all the good stuff saved for the BIG screen!

[Phil Tinajero]

I agree. I'm still debating whether or not I want to be spoiler-free for EP3. But I suppose I'm just saying that because there's absolutely nothing on the movie right now.

[Mann]

I wont go looking for episode III spoilers, but if I come across one on accident so be it!

[Phil Tinajero]

But I also think not looking at spoilers will make the 2 year wait seem twice as long. Maybe I'll look at little bits of stuff and not lots.

I went into X2 this weekend, not knowing too much about it because I purposely avoided spoilers. And I think the reason I enjoyed it as much as I did was because of that. It made me want to get the same feeling for EP3.

[Count Dookie]

I agree...I just got back from X2 tonight and loved it. I have not looked for much of the movie or the story line because I wanted to enjoy everything as it happened. And....That movie was awesome!!!! I really enjoyed it. I will have to see it on the big screen at least once more...ok, maybe two or three times.

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, I loved it!

And when I was watching it I was thinking "This is great. What's going to happen next?" because I had no idea. And I would have never guessed it would have ended like that. Whew!

And while I was watching Attack of the Clones I was thinking "This is great. I can't wait to see the end battle, and when Anakin kills the Tuskens, and the Jango/Obi-Wan battle, and the Yoda fight!" I knew how everything was going to unfold and what happened. I was just excited to see the story on screen. But it's a totally different experience when you see a movie and you don't know what's going to hit you.

I've been a spoiler-junkie for the last two films and I think seeing X2 made me convert. But I'm still not sure... ???

[Darth Vegas]

I for one am not really worried about spoilers, if they're out there, I'll know about them.

[Siamese Sith]

We already know the major events of the final StarWars film of all time, so being spoiler free will only keep the finer details hidden like who kills Mace when/where/how. If and when anyone gets confirmation of the lava scene forget about it, we'll have a real hard time avoiding that tid bit of info style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Mann]

When I saw Episode II, I had read the script three days before hand. so I knew what was going to happen. Then again, I saw what was added (factory scene) and what was deleted (family scene). So It was alright.

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by Siamese Sith@May 5 2003, 07:15 PM
We already know the major events of the final StarWars film of all time, so being spoiler free will only keep the finer details hidden like who kills Mace when/where/how.
That's true. EP3 isn't like Clones or Phantom Menace where we have no idea what's going to happen; all we know is how it's going to end. And this is the end that we've been waiting for. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

Yeah, I guess won't deprive myself of any spoilers but I'll try not to overdo it. But like I've said many times, being a spoiler-junkie is just like seeing a film faithfully adapted from a book. You know what's going to happen but you're still dying to see how it looks on the big screen. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[P-Ray]

We all pretty much know what's going to happen in EP.3 but we don't know specifics. In AOTC, I knew the entire story with specific details. I wanted to know and decided that it didn't matter and that the effect is seeing it on the big screen. I think with EP.3 I want to know some things but not the details of Palpatine,etc. I don't mind knowing the planets or ships but since this is the movie that answers all the questions and ties in to ANH,I think it will better not knowing for this one. At least I'm going to try but it's going to be difficult.

[Count Dookie]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@May 4 2003, 11:25 PM
I've been a spoiler-junkie for the last two films and I think seeing X2 made me convert. But I'm still not sure... ???
I was too. I would read the books before the movie was released. I think this time I will do my best to back off and not get any of the story line. I want to hear some news and see some pictures of the ships, locations, and characters; especially if there will be additions of new or old (i.e. Chewie).
I don't want to sit in the movie and wait for things to happen that I already know will...I want to find out during the movie.

[Jedi-master-Orion]

I would like to see

Vader breathing while text says every generation ends shows padme or someone every journey has
a last step show anakin with a mad look on his face then show every saga has an ending then show vader with his head looking down then he looks at the screen breathing stops

then show some battle or something obi wan being held back by stormtroopers with a mad look on his face while we see a dead mace windu then screen fades to black with the emporors laugh from rotj

then duel of the fates play while we see scenes from episode 1 and 2 of anakin doing cool stuff while we hear yoda say Grown strong this boy has'' while more scenes of anakin doing more cool stuff '' but he still has much to learn'' then show the twins then show anakin ''dead'' on the ground Obi wan with blue and green lightsaber saying '' learn not live not'' duel of the fates end then fade to black with qui gon saying '' I was wrong '' then show palpitine smiling and lauging '' we were all wrong'' then show anakin igniting a red lightsaber then cue darth vader breathing then show title and realese date with text saying the end of the beggining.

[Tuba Fatt]

personally, i thought the trailer for AOTC was perfect....it had me reallllly siked to go check it out...so anything of that sorts for episode 3 is good enough for me...

[Darth Vegas]

I agree, except for the fact that it gave it away that all the Stormtroopers are Fett clones.

[Phil Tinajero]

I didn't see that as too much of a giveaway. But then again, I already had the script by that time so there's no way to put myself in a spoiler-hater's shoes.

[Darth Vegas]

Well I mean that only for the general public, it would have been nice if they had that surprise, not for my sake, I was already aware about the Fett connection, even before the I read the AOTC script, this was discussed in the book "The Annotated Screenplays".

So not for my sake, but for everyone else, the people I know don't like spoilers.

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, that'd be too bad if you were waiting that long without a hint of spoilers and you saw that.

[Mann]

Somewhere in the trailer, it is essential that there is a close up of Hayden getting really really mad. If they are able to show him become a fullblown pissed off kid, then they will have finally acheived what i've wanted in the prequels, Vader losing his cool.

[Phil Tinajero]

AWESOME!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

Excellently put, Mann. I want a shot of Hayden in black flowing robes, walking towards us, red lightsaber shining. All in slow motion. Very Matrix, I know. ???

Lucas said once that what impressed him most was how evil Hayden could play. I really want to see him push that in EP3, like Mann said.

[Mann]

See, that's all I want to see, and the fact that they leave it til the last episode makes me hope that it is worth it.

we only get a glimpse of it when his mom dies. I think that was brilliant because it would have made us go "Oh, nothing much" when he does it again. The fact that we only hear about it, makes us wonder what it was like.

[Phil Tinajero]

I got goosebumps when he showed his anger in that scene. It was like a small taste of what's to come.

Hayden has to embody the true nature of Vader but he doesn't have scary black armor, a deep booming voice or that hellish breathing. So he's got a hard job ahead of him, but I think he'll pull it off nicely and I can't wait. If he could still make us get the same feeling as when we see Vader onscreen, then he's a winner.

[Mann]

In all respects, Hayden did a very good job with the last movie. I mean, after Jake lloyd, how do you not go up? He did what he was instructed to do, and even though people felt he was unemotional, think about living like a Jedi? None of them are emotional. So he got his stuff down. His evil face is creepy, i too got goosebumps. The goal in the next film is to show the face that Vader would be having if we could see it.

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, I thought Hayden was great in Clones too. Most of the people I talked to said that he was annoying. Well, I think that's somewhat supposed to come with the character. He's a kid that's being torn between two worlds.

[Mann]

The fact is that Anakin nevers leaves behind the kid he is. He is basically a kid his whole life. he never matures.

[Phil Tinajero]

Lucas said in TIME magazine that Anakin falls to the Dark Side because he can't let go of things; he can't let go of his mother and he can't let go of Padme. So, yeah he is a kid.

[bodegage]

I can't agree more. Anakin is a kid and Hayden does a great job portraying this well still showing his emerging anger and turn to the Dark Side. I always though he did a good job, even when the critics bashed him.

[Mann]

Hopefully, his performance in Episode II will cause them to swallow their words, so to speak.

I'm hoping that Lucas saw Gangs of New York and trys to pull of Anakin in a Bill the Butcher kind of light.

[Phil Tinajero]

Lucas said Gangs of New York was his favorite film of 2002 behind Two Towers.

I don't think Anakin will be devilishly evil like a regular bad guy. I think he'll be portrayed in more of a dramatic way; he'll have more weight behind his character than the cliche "mustache-twirling" villian.

And that's why it'll be a challenge for Hayden.

[Mann]

I don't think Anakin will be devilishly evil like a regular bad guy. I think he'll be portrayed in more of a dramatic way; he'll have more weight behind his character than the cliche "mustache-twirling" villian.

yeah, the devilish guy is Sidious. But, the scenes where Bill is mad and such are scenes hayden should study.

[Phil Tinajero]

True, because Bill had a lot of depth behind him as well. He was really likeable at first, but near the end he was the all-out villian. So it's kind of like Anakin's path.

All this time, and I've totally forgotten about Anakin's robotic arm. Do you think he'll hide it like Luke did?

I thought that shot was so cool in the Matrix Reloaded trailer when it showed Agent Smith walking towards the camera with the pigeons flying everywhere. If they could do something like that with Anakin, that'd be awesome. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

And what about the trailer music? I'd like them to use "The Asteroid Field".

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@May 10 2003, 10:41 PM
All this time, and I've totally forgotten about Anakin's robotic arm. Do you think he'll hide it like Luke did?
I think we can expect a Michael Jackson style single glove.

Luke only wore the glove when his hand was damaged, before that it looked like a real hand, Anakin's hand lacks the skin.

Trailer music? I think they should make the campaign larger, at least two main trailers, I'd like alot of "Duel of the Fates" "The Imperial March" "The Dark Side Beckons", themes like that at least in one of the trailers.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 10 2003, 03:38 PM
I don't think Anakin will be devilishly evil like a regular bad guy. I think he'll be portrayed in more of a dramatic way; he'll have more weight behind his character than the cliche "mustache-twirling" villian.

yeah, the devilish guy is Sidious. But, the scenes where Bill is mad and such are scenes hayden should study.
Perhaps, but Hayden was really only doing what he was told to do.

[Darth Thanos]

<<EDIT BY LDL>>

[Phil Tinajero]

Luke only wore the glove when his hand was damaged, before that it looked like a real hand, Anakin's hand lacks the skin.

Yeah, but if he wears a glove over the robotic arm then won't it be kind of weird-looking, since he's got no skin or shape of a human hand? But I do hope he wears a glove. The robotic arm will be too distracting.

[Mann]

Perhaps, but Hayden was really only doing what he was told to do.

Well, I hope he's told to study great villians who were corrupted. Bill is probably the best choice.

[Mann]

Yeah, but if he wears a glove over the robotic arm then won't it be kind of weird-looking, since he's got no skin or shape of a human hand? But I do hope he wears a glove. The robotic arm will be too distracting.

Gandalf,

You've just stated what could be one of the coolest effects in Episode III. A robotic arm throughout the film? AWESOME!

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah but not that skiny arm that looks like a skeleton.

It didn't look right at the end ot AOTC, it wouldn't look right being that way throughout the movie, note the way the clothe hangs off of the arm.

Besides, Anakin has to fight, they aren't going to be using the animatronic arm during the fight scenes with his other arm behind his back the whole time.

[Mann]

ILM will have a field day with making a CGI robotic arm last the whole movie.

[Darth Vegas]

That's the only way they could do it, but the arm still won't look right with those robes.

He wears a glove in the comics, you know, and even the knewest action figures have him wearing a glove.

The arm looks too much like naked 3PO.

I think it would be a real waste of time to animate his arm throughout the movie instead of just having him wear a glove.

I think they could do it for part of the movie, and they probably will, but just not for the entire movie.

[Mann]

ILM loveds CGI. they need something new in Episode III to compete with the new waves of movies with Effects heavy material. If he does walk around with a glove, i predict they will come up with some way to make the arm visible at the final battle. He strikes down Dooku with the new arm.

Also, does anyone notice that most villains have some sort of physical disability? Bill the Butcher has a glass eye and such. IT's kinda cool.

[Darth Vegas]

I'd like to see JediBendu's prediction come true that Anakin will smash his robotic arm on a table or soemthing, then of course he'd get a better replacement from Palpatine or something.

I imagine during this "final duel" you refer to Anakin will be clad in black robes and armor, and probably black gloves, much like Darth Maul wore throughout TPM. Basically, he'll dress like Vader before he ever needs the iron lung, IMHO.

We'll definately see the arm again at some point as a reminder, much like we saw with Luke in Return of the Jedi, putting the glove over his hand. Anakin could fight without a glove on during the final battle of the Clone Wars (though I suspect he'll be in a ship for most of that).

[Mann]

I don't see why he'd need a glove. It would be much cooler, and more meaninful, if he fough without a glove and gave into the fact he is growing into "more mahcine" phase. He wont smash his arm. Something tells me he can't, likes it's unbreakable. Besides, he needs more than a glove, he lost most of his arm! That probably why he didn't wear anything at the wedding, nothing fit!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 11 2003, 12:40 PM
I don't see why he'd need a glove. It would be much cooler, and more meaninful, if he fough without a glove and gave into the fact he is growing into "more mahcine" phase.
For one thing, we know how GL loves being repetitive, he even gave Anakin a green lightsaber in AOTC, and the handle is extremely simlar to the one Luke used in Return of the Jedi.

The arm looks like 3PO without his coverings.

He wears gloves and the mask when he's "...more machine...", so he might as well start now, and it's probably somewhat out of shame, the Dark Lord of the Sith doesn't want to appear vulnerable.

And you have to take into account they'd probably have to animate his clothes too partially, and I seriously doubt they'd go that far.

If you were handicaped, you wouldn't want a bunch of metal and wires hanging off your arm, you'd want it to conceal that.

He wont smash his arm. Something tells me he can't, likes it's unbreakable.

Well that's obviously not the case in Return of the Jedi. The arm smashing thing , came from earlier drafts of Star Wars.

Besides, he needs more than a glove, he lost most of his arm!

I was never under the impression that the arm was the final product, it seemed very temporary, or at least incomplete.

If you ever saw the film versin of AOTC, the robotic arm wasn't seen at all, it only made it on the digital version (in theaters).

[Phil Tinajero]

Besides, Anakin has to fight, they aren't going to be using the animatronic arm during the fight scenes with his other arm behind his back the whole time.

Well, I'd imagine they'd make Hayden wear a blue glove on his right arm and they could replace it with CG.

I imagine during this "final duel" you refer to Anakin will be clad in black robes and armor, and probably black gloves, much like Darth Maul wore throughout TPM. Basically, he'll dress like Vader before he ever needs the iron lung, IMHO.

Hey, that'd be awesome if he dressed like a dark Jedi before he becomes Vader. Long black cloak and stuff. Maybe black gloves, would be the best choice....

I'm still not sure where I stand on this. ???

[Darth Vegas]

I think it'll look too much like Terminator.

[Phil Tinajero]

I never thought of that. :look:

I like gloves.

[Darth Vegas]

Not that that's a bad thing....right? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif

[Jedi Killer]

I think that first teaser trailer that we will see around Thanksgiving in 2004 will show a fast scene of Vader holding a red lightsaber (maybe fighting) along with the breathing noises. GL wants to make us drool!!!!

[Mann]

I think it'll look too much like Terminator.

What do you think inspired the Terminator?

[Darth Vegas]

Not Star Wars, if that's what you're thinking.

[Mann]

Tall, menacing stare, part machine....yeah i think Vader basically inspired Arnold's terminator.

[Darth Vegas]

Uh, no.

Vader's in a frickin mask, he doesn't have a menacing stare, he's always in the suit.

The terminator is a metal skeleton, some of them have flesh on the outside.

How does asthmatic breathing, mask, suit and cape traslate to Autrian accent, motorcycle boots, leather jacket, and metal skeleton?

No comparison.

[Jedi Killer]

*cough* nerd *cough*

yea i know what u mean. Vader did not inspire the terminator. Cameron had that idea from a nightmare he had one night.

plus, in the OT, we never saw a skelton type hand from luke or vader. didnt look like the one in AOTC

[Darth Vegas]

*caugh* Martini *caugh*

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007@May 12 2003, 08:39 PM
Uh, no.

Vader's in a frickin mask, he doesn't have a menacing stare, he's always in the suit.

The terminator is a metal skeleton, some of them have flesh on the outside.

How does asthmatic breathing, mask, suit and cape traslate to Autrian accent, motorcycle boots, leather jacket, and metal skeleton?

No comparison.
No menacing stare? Have you seen those huge black eyes that are on his mask? It's part of what makes him scary to the Imperial Crew.

[Darth Vegas]

Ah huh, well there's nothing like that on the Terminator, don't even say the sunglasses.

In the first film he only wore sunglasses after he removed his eye.

[Phil Tinajero]

Originally posted by Jedi Killer@May 12 2003, 07:02 PM
*cough* nerd *cough*

And you're not? Come on, it's all just friendly discussion in here, Jedi Killer.

I don't think Vader inspired the Terminator at all. The half-machine part is just one small similarity in a sea of differences.

Maybe Palpatine will replace Anakin's arm with a much better one. And then he can wear the gloves without looking weird. That'd be like a skeleton wearing a glove. And I do hope Anakin wears gloves; it'll make him look more like a Dark Jedi.

[Count Dookie]

When watching the AOTC I thought the way Anakin was wearing his robes, at least the long flowing rob, it already looked kinda dark. I know it was done on purpose, but when he and Padme are talking outside just before he leaves to find his mother. The shadow...the shadow of Vader...with the pony tail of Anakin's and the long robe. It can only get better.
I agree that it would be cool if we see him in the dark clothing/armor before he needs the mask. Then finally seeing the finished producted...Mask and breathing with the booming voice.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Jedi Killer@May 13 2003, 12:02 AM

plus, in the OT, we never saw a skelton type hand from luke or vader. didnt look like the one in AOTC
Luke/Vader both has robotic hands. Terminator came out in 1984, the year after RotJ. His presence is very much like Vader, and of course they aren't going to copy him exactly. I'm sure Vader gave alot of inspiration to Science fiction villians after he debuted. After ESB, he was known as the greatest villain remember? Also, Vader's heltmet looks like a skull correct? And then you have the skull looking termintor at the end. The terminator is a great character, but he is also inspired by what came before him.

[Jedi Killer]

( i know this is gonna piss of star wars geeks, but i gotta say it....)

i think GL ripped off the Terminator when he made Anakins arm look all robotic in AOTC

[Darth Vegas]

Uh, no. Not that that pisses anyone off.

That arm happens to be a real life robotic arm, it wasn't a prop made for the movie. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Thanos]

Originally posted by Jedi Killer@May 12 2003, 10:42 PM
( i know this is gonna piss of star wars geeks, but i gotta say it....)

i think GL ripped off the Terminator when he made Anakins arm look all robotic in AOTC
I disagree. Completely.

But it doesn't get me po'd. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Mann]

well, I think it's the other way around. And I can see that Die Hard fans would get pissed because saying GL ripped off someone (even he did for alot of material) is something they don't want to hear.

[Phil Tinajero]

When watching the AOTC I thought the way Anakin was wearing his robes, at least the long flowing rob, it already looked kinda dark. I know it was done on purpose, but when he and Padme are talking outside just before he leaves to find his mother. The shadow...the shadow of Vader...with the pony tail of Anakin's and the long robe. It can only get better.

Hell yeah! But actually, Pablo Helman, one of the special effects guys said on the commentary that the "Vader shadow" in Clones was definetly not intentional. He didn't even spot until then.

The scene where Anakin was walking towards the speeder was a great one. His back was turned, his dark robes were flowing and he seemed to be walking towards a dark destiny that would ultimately destroy his life. Very cool. I hope we see some flowing robes in the trailer. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

i think GL ripped off the Terminator when he made Anakins arm look all robotic in AOTC

Couldn't disagree more.

[Jedi Killer]

whys everyone disagreeing with the Terminator reference? everyone isnt giving any backup to their argument. both are DO look very similar

[Darth Vegas]

Jedi Killer, as stated before, the robotic arm that Anakin has in AOTC is a real life robotic arm, it wasn't a prop created for the movie.

[Jedi Killer]

what?!?!?!

they arent real dude, they are fake. if it was real, then everyone losing their arms in car accidents would have one like anakins.

sooooooooo......both were the same basically. "normal" movie-watchers see both as these skelton robotic arms, HENCE...they look THE SAME!!!

[Darth Vegas]

No the robotic arm that Anakin had in AOTC really was a real robotic arm, for real dude.

[Jedi Killer]

then so was the one in terminator. they were BOTH being run by some guy on the side with a control box.

please explain oh wise one

[Darth Vegas]

Well, I suppose. But the arm used in AOTC wasn't made in the film, it was made by MIT or something.

Either way the arm in Terminator looks nothing like the arm Anakin has in AOTC.

[Jedi Killer]

hahaha, see. alright fine, one is gold and the other is silver!

but they look identical to the human eye.

both are just robotic arms controlled by some dude on the side. the way u were saying it, it sounded like anakin really really has a robot arm that is used in real life style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

i win

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007@May 14 2003, 04:36 AM
Jedi Killer, as stated before, the robotic arm that Anakin has in AOTC is a real life robotic arm, it wasn't a prop created for the movie.
probably the dumbest statement I've ever heard on this site.

Let's see: they are movies. Both of them. the arms, whether CGI or props are fake.

and Jedi Killer does win, and is correct, they do look the same. Notice they are virtually the same length too.

[Phil Tinajero]

Well, uh, anyway...I hope Anakin gets a new arm in EP3. :look:

The trailer should feature the last music of the Clones soundtrack where the Imperial March fades into the Love Theme.

[Jedi Killer]

now that i think about it, i dont wanna see any trailers or commercials. i want it all to be a surprise

cause im gonna go see The Matrix Reloaded this weekend and I've already seen some cool things that I wish i never knew about. Kinda like how i felt when i saw the first Matrix movie

[Phil Tinajero]

You don't have to see them if you don't want to. You're just going to have to find out every movie the EP3 trailer's playing with and avoid them. Looks like a tough strategy, but hey, you want to be surprised.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[Phil Tinajero]

I saw Finding Nemo last night and I saw the trailer for another Pixar film called The Incredibles which is scheduled to come out on November 5, 2004. Immediatly I knew the EP3 trailer would be attached to that movie.

For two reasons: It's a Pixar film and the first Clones trailer was attached to Monster's Inc.. I'm guessing it has to do with Lucas starting Pixar himself.

The second: The movie's coming out November 5, 2004. The same Friday that the Breathing trailer premiered three years earlier.

So expect the EP3 trailer to be attached to The Incredibles.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah, I bet.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@May 31 2003, 08:16 AM
I saw Finding Nemo last night and I saw the trailer for another Pixar film called The Incredibles which is scheduled to come out on November 5, 2004.
They showed a trailer for a movie that comes out in a year and a half? Never too early to start advertising.

[Gobi-1]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Gandalf@May 31 2003, 10:16 AM
I saw Finding Nemo last night and I saw the trailer for another Pixar film called The Incredibles which is scheduled to come out on November 5, 2004. Immediatly I knew the EP3 trailer would be attached to that movie.

For two reasons: It's a Pixar film and the first Clones trailer was attached to Monster's Inc.. I'm guessing it has to do with Lucas starting Pixar himself.

The second: The movie's coming out November 5, 2004. The same Friday that the Breathing trailer premiered three years earlier.

So expect the EP3 trailer to be attached to The Incredibles.
I was going to post the exact samething you did. When I saw the release that the 1st thing I thought was that the Episode III teaser would be attached to it.

[DblDwn]

Off topic but, was Finding Nemo worth seeing?

[Gobi-1]

Yes you should go see it. Right now.

[DblDwn]

OK I'm running out the door right now................... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, Finding Nemo was very good; among Pixar's best.

Good to see that I wasn't the only one who thought that about the EP3 trailer, Gobi!

[DblDwn]

Yeah I'll probably go see it this weekend. It looks good.

I just saw Toy Story for the first time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif last weekend and thought it was excellent.

[Phil Tinajero]

Okay, I don't mean to resurrect an old and long since dead topic, but I saw the Return of the King trailer this past weekend and I can only hope that Episode 3 follows the same advertising outline for the trailer.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah, only hopefully they won't make us wait to long to see the dang trailer!

I could imagine the last shot of the trailer being Obi-Wan, clearly in the heart of the "volcano" yelling "Nooo!!!" and looking down as Anakin falls...

[JediBendu]

^ nah - they'll concentrate on the evil powerful Anakin defeating the Jedi. Of course they'll probably be 4 or 5 distinct trailers again.

[Javen]

Originally posted by TK-007@Oct 2 2003, 12:18 AM
I could imagine the last shot of the trailer being Obi-Wan, clearly in the heart of the "volcano" yelling "Nooo!!!" and looking down as Anakin falls...
I bet they won't show nothing of the duel in the trailer other than maybe heated dialogue. Get it...heated? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

[Gazelle]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jun 3 2003, 04:20 AM
I just saw Toy Story for the first time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif last weekend and thought it was excellent.
Toy Story 2 is even better ole boy.

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, they probably will release a few trailers, but I hope it's mainly three or even two. I want a good teaser, but one that's released pretty close to a theatrical trailer.

[JediBendu]

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I just want any teaser, period!

[Gazelle]

And I want it on Hyperspace first!

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, that'd be great! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah you suckers that don't have Hyperspace, we'll most likely be seeing that trailer first! Not only that I bet we'll even get a series of polls asking us what we want to see in the trailer and on commercials and posters and such and even articles and videos about the Episode 3 marketing campaign.

Just thought I'd rub that in. Haha. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Siamese Sith]

I pity the fool!
Mr T 007 style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Phil Tinajero]

Hey, maybe you're right Bond. I sure hope so. It is most likely that Hyperspacers will get the first look at the trailer and then it'll probably be on The Incredibles.

But I'd rather have the teaser include some dialogue and sound. Maybe just a little narration, like the Two Towers teaser. Don't get me wrong, the Breathing Teaser was cool, but I was a little disapointed that we didn't get much in terms of design, sound and music.

[Gazelle]

Episode III Trailer Thread

I was wondering when people expect to see the Episode III trailer.

I am particularly looking for the views of those veterans who can remember what LF did for the last two Episodes, as to when we are to expect to see it, and to whether or not it will be shown on the internet prior to or at the same time as its cinema release.

And of course, there is always the speculation as to what we are going to see. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

The thread begins....

[Mann]

like this time next year is when the trailer comes out.

[Darth Vegas]

The only news we've heard thus far was from Hyperspace, I believe it was stated that Lucas picked out a few shots from the film he wanted to be seen in the trailer.

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[T-bone]

Look - I merged! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Ali Arikan]

Knowing LFL's predilection to ruining most best shots of the flicks in the trailer, I expect those shots to be all cool shots of Vader in full costume. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Gazelle]

No, I would have thought that we will only get a glimpse of "ole black boots"

Plenty of heavy breathing though..

[Darth Vegas]

I bet the final shot before we see the flashy Episode 3 logo will be the camera facing the back of Anakin's head and helmet coming down.

[Gazelle]

No man, they'll save all that!

[Phil Tinajero]

Yeah, I want to be totally dazzled by the trailer but I seriously want a lot of gravy left over until opening night.

I hope there's no Breathing-type trailer. I mean, it was cool for about a day until I realized it was just a bunch of moving images (most of which I'd already seen) and no sound or music. I felt semi-disapointed. The teaser for Phantom Menace was much better.

Anyway, I hope they don't spoil too mcuh. ???

[T-bone]

I wanna see Vader in the suit but I think they might wait til the final trailer for that...