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Jedi Master Yung

08-02-2002, 09:44 AM

I was watching the SE ANH yesterday, and noticed in the preview for the release of the SE at the begining something intereseting.

When Luke leaves Dagobah, Yoda and Ghost-Ob1 are left standing in the after glow of his X-wing. G-Ob1 says "That boy is our last hope" or something like that. Yoda replies"No... There is another," meaning, I believe Leia.

Wouldn't Ob1 know about Leia? Maybe somehow he didn't in order to protect her. I haven't completely thought this through yet so maybe I can get some help from you guys.

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 10:03 AM

Matey - see the Obi Wan's Name thread amoung many other for discussion of this puzzle. :)

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 10:12 AM

Some have suggested that Obi-Wan doesn't know about Leia, and it iss certainly possible that he doesn't, the theory having been that the less information he knows, the less could be pried out of him under duress.

I think he probably does know, however. Keeping this from him might have been difficult, especially if he was actually present at the birth, or maybe just nearby.

Also, I think the best thing would have been for him to be told, even if not doing so was considered for strategic purposes, as stated above. Why? Well, if we assume that Obi-Wan and Yoda are the only two Jedi to survive the purge, and only Yoda knew about Leia, what if something happened to Yoda? Then Obi-Wan would have had to train Luke by himself (and he couldn't have allowed himself to "die" in the duel with Vader in ANH). Further, what if Luke then failed for whatever reason? If Yoda was gone, and Obi-Wan did not know about Leia, then the galaxy would be sunk, with the only remaining alternative being for Obi-Wan to try to defeat Vader and his master himself.

As for the scene in ESB, I think Obi-Wan said what he did because he was speaking in more practical terms. It might or might not be possible for Leia to be retained from the Rebellion and trained as a Jedi capable of taking on Vader and Palpatine. Even if she could, they don't really know how much _time_ they have to do this, because who knows what sort of things Palpatine might do in the interim? By the time they could get her there (fraught with risk in and of itself) and train her, there might not be a galaxy left worth saving.

One more thing: If Obi-Wan doesn't know until that moment, I'd think he would have said something like, "Whatchoo talkin' bout, Yoda?" There is nothing from him here that sounds like surprise (though, admittedly, he has faded from sight by the time Yoda says that, so we can't see the look on his face), and there are several seconds during which he could respond, but does not.

Qapla'

SSB

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 10:45 AM

Upsettingly I have to agree with sbaxter here.

I think Obi Wan knew all along. I think the dialogue with Yoda refered to the fact that:
Luke was their BEST last hope of defeating Vader. Would leia ever be physically strong enough?? Also Luke seems to be stronger with the force than she is.
They'd also have to start from scratch with Leia. And at that point a/ She was Vader's captive anyway so maybe Obi Wan was thinking that Luke was their last hope as if he failed Leia would die anyway. b/ If Luke failed, but Leia somehow escaped and was then trained as a Jedi, she'd have to fight Vader knowing that he'll already killed / turned the stronger Luke.

I've always thought that neither Obi Wan or Yoda were talking about Leia anyway. And that there was someother 'hope' out there was well. Maybe other hidden Jedi, or new Jedi powered others?

maddog62

08-02-2002, 10:55 AM

He is are last hope. No there is another. (ESB) although we don't see and hear it I think Yoda explains to Obi-Wan here about the whole Leia thing. When we see Obi-Wan again (ROTJ) Yoda just died and told Luke there is another hope. Luke asks Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan tells Luke the story wich makes me believe he didn't no untill Yoda told him on Dagoban.

JediBendu

08-02-2002, 11:26 AM

ya
Obi-Wan was in the dark as much as Anakin was over Leia - Yoda kept it from him even though Obi devoted 18 years of solitude to keep an eye on Luke.
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sbaxter

08-02-2002, 11:35 AM

>If Luke failed, but Leia somehow escaped and was then trained as a Jedi, she'd have to fight Vader knowing that he'll already killed / turned the stronger Luke.

Darth Badly, that's a good point I hadn't considered as well (and I'm actually pleased, not upset, to say so). Maybe they could overcome this for the most part with proper training, but that psychological disadvantage could have been pretty heavy on Leia, making things even more difficult for her than for Luke.

JediBendu:

>Obi-Wan was in the dark as much as Anakin was over Leia - Yoda kept it from him even though Obi devoted 18 years of solitude to keep an eye on Luke.

What guides you to this conclusion? I'd be interested to hear why you think this.

Qapla'

SSB

JediBendu

08-02-2002, 11:45 AM

Had Obi known of Leia there wouldn't have been the urgency to keep Luke on Dagobah. He had only appeared [briefly] on Hoth, then reappeared only when it looked like Luke was bailing. If he knew about Leia he may have just said 'you must do what you feel is right, of course'.

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 12:02 PM

Thanks sbaxter - If Leia had to face Vader knowing that he was her father AND that he'd already killed / turned Luke her brother I think it'd pretty much be the end for her.

JediBendu - I can't see how keeping it from Obi Wan would have been good tactics. What if something had happened to Yoda in all the years inbetween? Would the secret have died with him. (I guess Leia's new adopted parents must have known?) I would agree though that it doesn't sit well that Ben would kinda encourage Luke to fancy his sister when he sees the hologram in ANH, but then there are already all sorts of problems with that scene because Lucus didn't have many of the future story twists figured out when he wrote it.

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by JediBendu@Aug. 02 2002 - 10:45
Had Obi known of Leia there wouldn't have been the urgency to keep Luke on Dagobah. *
I don't see this. Remember that whatever Luke decides to do at that point, Vader already has Leia captive. She'll probably die / be tortured to death if he doesn't act so that "other hope" won't be there anyway.

JediBendu

08-02-2002, 12:08 PM

She's already been captured by Vader before. You'd think Obi would have tried to save her from the DS.
Then again...
perhaps it's Leia the Obi sacrifices his life for all along! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

darthwicker

08-02-2002, 12:38 PM

Well it is Leia's theme that is played with Ben's theme as he dies, not Luke's.

Jedi Master Yung

08-02-2002, 01:08 PM

Doesn't Obi say something about 'the emporer (sp?) knew, as did I, that if Vader had a son' something it would be trouble for the empire? Or did he say Children? For the life of me i can't even remember which ep this is from, I'm assuming ESB, but I might be wrong.

My point with this is if it is son which he says then Leia wasn't even a concern of theirs. But if he said children then nevermind. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif THis just flashed before and again isn't really thought out, but I'm better at starting ideas anyway instead of finishing them.

JediBendu

08-02-2002, 01:22 PM

'The Emperor knew, as I did, that if Anakin were to have any offspring they would be a threat to him.'

Yoda's the one who's behind it all, scheming and manipulating behind the scenes. He somehow convinces Padme to separate the twins, then when Obi comes to Dagobah he conveniently forgets the Leia back on Alderaan.

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 02:00 PM

>Remember that whatever Luke decides to do at that point, Vader already has Leia captive. *She'll probably die / be tortured to death if he doesn't act so that "other hope" won't be there anyway.

Especially given that Vader is torturing Leia, Han and Chewie specifically with the intent of drawing Luke to Bespin. If Luke doesn't go, Vader may have them killed. In fact, I'd guess that if Luke didn't show up, Vader would have killed them one at a time to see if _that_ would bring Luke running.

After all, this is the whole subject of the debate between Luke, Yoda and Obi-Wan:

Luke (on being urged not to go to Bespin): And sacrifice Han and Leia?*

Yoda: If you honor what they fight for ... yes!

*Apparently Chewie's just chopped bantha liver.

Qapla'

SSB

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by sbaxter@Aug. 02 2002 - 13:00
>Remember that whatever Luke decides to do at that point, Vader already has Leia captive. *She'll probably die / be tortured to death if he doesn't act so that "other hope" won't be there anyway.

Especially given that Vader is torturing Leia, Han and Chewie specifically with the intent of drawing Luke to Bespin. If Luke doesn't go, Vader may have them killed. In fact, I'd guess that if Luke didn't show up, Vader would have killed them one at a time to see if _that_ would bring Luke running.

After all, this is the whole subject of the debate between Luke, Yoda and Obi-Wan:

Luke (on being urged not to go to Bespin): And sacrifice Han and Leia?*

Yoda: If you honor what they fight for ... yes!

*Apparently Chewie's just chopped bantha liver.

Qapla'

SSB
I think there's biiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggg problem here, guys.

I don't think that Leia can possibly be the other hope Yoda mentions.

How can Yoda urge Luke to sacifice Leia with one breath and then about 90 seconds later make a reference to her as the only other "last hope" in the galaxy. *Doh! *That doesn't make sense.

Either she's not important enough to risk losing Luke to the Emperor for (which is what Yoda seems to be saying)
OR
she is the vital last hope for the galaxy should Luke let them down and be seduced by Vader. *But I don't see how she can be both at the same time??? *

What say you?

PS sbaxter - yeah, I think Vader would have started killing the hostages slowly and starting with Chewie, Han and Leia last.

Jedi Master Yung

08-02-2002, 02:33 PM

How can Yoda urge Luke to sacifice Leia with one breath and then about 90 seconds later make a reference to her as the only other "last hope" in the galaxy. *Doh! *That doesn't make sense.

Either she's not important enough to risk losing Luke to the Emperor for (which is what Yoda seems to be saying)
OR
she is the vital last hope for the galaxy should Luke let them down and be seduced by Vader. *But I don't see how she can be both at the same time??? *

What say you?

PS sbaxter - yeah, I think Vader would have started killing the hostages slowly and starting with Chewie, Han and Leia last.[/quote]
If Leia's not the other hope Yoda is refering to then what is. You do bring up a good point about what he is saying, I'm just wondering if you have an idea of what the other hope IS? Like I said good point.

darthwicker

08-02-2002, 02:49 PM

It says in Ben's fact file at starwars.com that he was instrumental in hiding the twins.
Can we believe these fact-files?

Darth Badly

08-02-2002, 03:21 PM

Sadly we probably can't believe the fact files over there. They're probably true at the moment, but who knows what changes Lucus will decide are needed to patch Ep 3 into Ep 4?

If it really does say that Ben hid the twins then he knows about Leia for sure, and so Leia (probably) isn't the other hope. (She still might be because you could argue that it only means that Ben doesn't reckon her much which given her strength compared to Vader's or Luke's seems possible.)

Can you confirm what the fact files say about Ben hiding the twins?

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 03:30 PM

>How can Yoda urge Luke to sacifice Leia with one breath and then about 90 seconds later make a reference to her as the only other "last hope" in the galaxy.

Hmmm ...

Well, maybe Yoda could forsee that Leia would escape. Perhaps as events get closer in time, they are easier to see. Remember that Luke is leaving when he says this, but when he said he couldn't tell earlier Luke hadn't even started planning to go. Maybe Luke going to Bespin is the pivot upon which that event turned, and when it became definite he was going, it meant that Leia's survival was set at that point. Even if that wasn't the case and Yoda couldn't see the future clearly, it is possible that Leia would have escaped anyway by some other method.

I think that when Yoda says Luke should sacrifice Han and Leia if he honors their fight, he doesn't mean it will happen; I think he just means that Luke must be willing to make the sacrifice.

After all, deliberately sending Luke after his friends risks both of them ... Obi-Wan can't help, and Yoda doesn't seem in a position to do anything.

Or ... well, it could just be a story oversight. I'm sure some goofs exist in the saga, and it is possible this is one of them.

I think the dialogue between Luke and Yoda and then Luke and Kenobi in ROTJ is a clear indication that Leia is the other mentioned in ESB, given that the word gets used several times in those later conversations.

Qapla'

SSB

Justin

08-02-2002, 03:36 PM

The easiest way to explain this is that Leia wasn't intended to be Luke's sister when they made 'The Empire Strikes Back'. That was something Lucas decided to throw into 'Return of the Jedi'. *

Originally, Luke's sister was going to be living on some planet somewhere else in the galaxy, and he would find her in the Sequel Trilogy.

Lucas just changed his mind.

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 03:37 PM

>Sadly we probably can't believe the fact files over there. *They're probably true at the moment, but who knows what changes Lucus will decide are needed to patch Ep 3 into Ep 4?

I'd say it depends partly on whether they are EU or movie files. I know that some of them have recently been updated, and I suspect that some of them are deliberately emphasizing information that may prove relevant to Episode 3.

>If it really does say that Ben hid the twins then he knows about Leia for sure, and so Leia (probably) isn't the other hope.

I still maintain that what Yoda says to Obi-Wan as Luke is leaving is most likely a reminder, not a revelation.

>(She still might be because you could argue that it only means that Ben doesn't reckon her much which given her strength compared to Vader's or Luke's seems possible.)

Or that Obi-Wan has spent so many years focused on Luke, to the point that having Leia as a backup is something he nearly forgets sometimes.

Qapla'

SSB

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 03:57 PM

I looked up Kenobi's databank entry, and the information there is actually in the "movie" segment of his file. It reads:

"Obi-Wan was instrumental in hiding Anakin's offspring, so that neither the Dark Lord, nor his master, the Emperor Palpatine, knew of their whereabouts. He took the young boy, Luke, to live with Owen and Beru Lars, moisture farmers on Tatooine."

Given that this is in the "movie" section, I'd give it great weight in this issue, though I wouldn't bet the farm on it not being changed. In any case, I don't believe that Lucas changes things just to confound us, so it will only be changed if something odd happens (no idea what).

There were stories that Lucas filmed a couple of scenes for Episode 3 with Ewan McGregor after doing the final "pickup" shots filmed late for AOTC. If the story is true, that could be a strong clue. The story speculated that these were shot because they were only Tatooine shots needed for Episode 3, so there will be no need to return to Tunisia. Sounds like it could describe Obi-Wan showing up on Owen's doorstep and saying, "Hello, I'm Ben Kenobi. Here, take this kid. He's your stepbrother's sonny boy, but Anakin is dead now. Wow, look at the time; I've got to go play in the sand for the next couple of decades or so. See ya."

If there were scenes shot with McGregor, they'd almost certainly be for Episode 3, because Obi-Wan doesn't go to Tatooine in AOTC.

Qapla'

SSB

sbaxter

08-02-2002, 03:59 PM

>The easiest way to explain this is that Leia wasn't intended to be Luke's sister when they made 'The Empire Strikes Back'. That was something Lucas decided to throw into 'Return of the Jedi'.

Well, yeah; I can buy it ... but where's the fun in _that_? ???

Qapla'

SSB

Mann

08-02-2002, 05:26 PM

Leia is the one Lucas means by it's another. Luke tells Leia in Return of the Jedi that if he loses, she's the only hope for the alliance.

The point of Obi-Wan sacrificing himself is because he was able to reunite Luke and Leia on the Death Star, and since they were leaving, they didn't need him anymore. Obi-Wan knew about Leia, he just knew as Yoda did, that Luke was stronger with the force, and would be the key. Leia was strong, but they couldn't both be in the same area, so they separated. and since Yoda was forced to hide, only Obi-Wan *was alive to train Luke and not Leia. If they could, I bet another Jedi would have trained Leia in secret. Luke would eventually train Leai when he learned the truth.

I think Lucas has basically made up his mind, and what the fact files say are true. but they don't go into detail, so they don't spoil anything really.

James William Alexander Atreides

06-22-2005, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Mann@Aug 2 2002, 03:26 PM
Leia is the one Lucas means by it's another. Luke tells Leia in Return of the Jedi that if he loses, she's the only hope for the alliance.

The point of Obi-Wan sacrificing himself is because he was able to reunite Luke and Leia on the Death Star, and since they were leaving, they didn't need him anymore. Obi-Wan knew about Leia, he just knew as Yoda did, that Luke was stronger with the force, and would be the key. Leia was strong, but they couldn't both be in the same area, so they separated. and since Yoda was forced to hide, only Obi-Wan *was alive to train Luke and not Leia. If they could, I bet another Jedi would have trained Leia in secret. Luke would eventually train Leai when he learned the truth.

I think Lucas has basically made up his mind, and what the fact files say are true. but they don't go into detail, so they don't spoil anything really.
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If Leia is the other hope, than where does Anakin, the Chosen One, come in? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/vader.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

Justin

06-22-2005, 05:26 AM

Another interesting thing is that Yoda knew that Leia was a prisoner of Darth Vader when Luke went to confront him. So how can he say that "there is another" hope when that hope is already a prisoner of Darth Vader and the one hope is going off to rescue her, which Yoda told him not to do??

Evidence that Leia wasn't originally planned to be the "other" in my opinion.

James William Alexander Atreides

06-22-2005, 12:48 PM

Perhaps Yoda knew that Leia would escape? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

ROR_JagFel_20

06-22-2005, 11:40 PM

Maybe Obi-Wan and Yoda had a plan to rescue her? Which involved Luke, Han, and Chewie?

thechosen1

06-23-2005, 12:17 PM

after watching episode 3 i wondered that as well, how come in the OT he doesn't know about Leia??? he was in the room when they were born and Senator Organa even tells obi and yoda he is going to take the girl... also, i have another question, if these kids were the last hope, why did they not train them from the beginning... i mean obi already defeated lord vader, he had left him for dead... so why would they be so scared of palps... surely obi and yoda thought they could take him together... episode 3 left a lot of questions at the end for me... i mean it was beautifully shot at the end but it seems to me that they didn't explain too much on why they didn't/or did do certain things

James William Alexander Atreides

06-23-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by thechosen1@Jun 23 2005, 10:17 AM
after watching episode 3 i wondered that as well, how come in the OT he doesn't know about Leia??? he was in the room when they were born and Senator Organa even tells obi and yoda he is going to take the girl... also, i have another question, if these kids were the last hope, why did they not train them from the beginning... i mean obi already defeated lord vader, he had left him for dead... so why would they be so scared of palps... surely obi and yoda thought they could take him together... episode 3 left a lot of questions at the end for me... i mean it was beautifully shot at the end but it seems to me that they didn't explain too much on why they didn't/or did do certain things
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Maybe there was a higher long range plan they were going by. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

dexterlennon

11-07-2005, 03:34 PM

After finishing watching Empire Strikes Back last night (en route to watching episodes 1-6) I had an epiphany that "the other hope" was Yoda sensing that Vader could still fulfil the prophecy and destroy the Emperor.
The scene was meant to be puzzling, and for 20 years, everybody assumed Leia was the person referred to. Now, with all the information, I think Yoda senses that Luke is the only person who can help Vader turn to the side of good.
Thoughts?

Porthas

11-07-2005, 03:49 PM

Respectfully, I think some are overthinking this. Obi Wan simply didn't think Leia was an option, regardless of whom her parents were. Yoda was considering the problems with Luke, and bringing up the option to Obi Wan. Mirrors discussions they had in the Prequels where they did not see eye to eye.

Echurr

11-07-2005, 05:24 PM

Hello ladies and gents...this is officially my first post.

For one, Obi-Wan Kenobi did know of Leia since, in fact, Padme told him (to his face) the names of the twins as they came out. Saying this, I believe that dexterlennon is correct in his thinking. I think Luke is one hope and Vader the other. Leia is much like her mother Padme. Politics and such. In actuality, Leia never truely shows large signs of the force. I believe that Yoda, in his wisdom, saw the remaining good that Padme spoke of to obi-Wan in her dying minutes.
In the end, it is all one combined effort. Vader and Luke are dueling. In hiding, Vader intices Luke with the thought of Leia as a Sith and Luke lashes out...you know the story...

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif "Do or do not...there is no try."

Porthas

11-07-2005, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Justin@Aug 2 2002, 10:36 AM
The easiest way to explain this is that Leia wasn't intended to be Luke's sister when they made 'The Empire Strikes Back'. That was something Lucas decided to throw into 'Return of the Jedi'.

Originally, Luke's sister was going to be living on some planet somewhere else in the galaxy, and he would find her in the Sequel Trilogy.

Lucas just changed his mind.
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And yeah this also.

darth bangkok

11-14-2005, 06:45 PM

My question is, why was there even the line "there is another" put into ESB? Luke did his job. If Luke failed and Leia took over and brought Anakin back to the light side, it would make more sense. But as it is now, thats just a gratuitous line for dramatics, its not needed. Leia was still a side character.

Did Lucas have other plans at one point to make Leia a hero?

Sargoth

11-14-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by dexterlennon@Nov 7 2005, 12:34 PM
After finishing watching Empire Strikes Back last night (en route to watching episodes 1-6) I had an epiphany that "the other hope" was Yoda sensing that Vader could still fulfil the prophecy and destroy the Emperor.
The scene was meant to be puzzling, and for 20 years, everybody assumed Leia was the person referred to. Now, with all the information, I think Yoda senses that Luke is the only person who can help Vader turn to the side of good.
Thoughts?
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Nope.

LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.

BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.

Pretty cut & dry if you ask me.

smudger9

11-18-2005, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Sargoth+Nov 15 2005, 01:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sargoth @ Nov 15 2005, 01:09 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-dexterlennon@Nov 7 2005, 12:34 PM
After finishing watching Empire Strikes Back last night (en route to watching episodes 1-6) I had an epiphany that "the other hope" was Yoda sensing that Vader could still fulfil the prophecy and destroy the Emperor.*
The scene was meant to be puzzling, and for 20 years, everybody assumed Leia was the person referred to.* Now, with all the information, I think Yoda senses that Luke is the only person who can help Vader turn to the side of good.
Thoughts?
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Nope.

LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.

BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.

Pretty cut & dry if you ask me.
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Yep

Ant

11-20-2005, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by darth bangkok@Nov 14 2005, 10:45 PM
My question is, why was there even the line "there is another" put into ESB? Luke did his job. If Luke failed and Leia took over and brought Anakin back to the light side, it would make more sense. But as it is now, thats just a gratuitous line for dramatics, its not needed. Leia was still a side character.

Did Lucas have other plans at one point to make Leia a hero?
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I think I heard that on the OT DVDs actually, did anyone else

clarkson88

11-20-2005, 05:09 PM

Like the others said, Lucas didn't know what he was going to do and just hoped for the best.

MeBeJedi

11-29-2005, 09:59 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...In [the first draft], there's no hint that there may be another hope if Luke fails. In the revised second draft, a few lines of dialogue were added as Luke's X-wing disappears in the sky: Yoda says: "Now we must find another." Ben replies: "He is our only hope." And in the third draft, after Luke takes off, Ben says: "The boy is our last hope." Yoda replies: "No...we must search for another." - Irvin Kershner: The Annotated Screenplays

My feeling about Luke being the last hope was really done in an effort to make sure that he was in some jeopardy, that he might not succeed. I was trying to set up subliminally in the audience's mind that something is going on here, that he could fail. And if he fails, 'there is another hope'. So the audience is saying 'Don't go, finish your training. - George Lucas: The Annotated Screenplays[/b][/quote]

In addition to this, Luke was to have a sister, who was also trained in the Force - hence Leia being captured at Bespin wouldn't have caused any problems in the overall plan.

Even, the "sister" and Leia characters were combined for convenience, but this does raise some interesting quandries when rewatching the films knowing that Leia=sister.

delta09

02-05-2006, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Jedi Master Yung@Aug 2 2002, 06:44 AM
I was watching the SE ANH yesterday, and noticed in the preview for the release of the SE at the begining something intereseting.

When Luke leaves Dagobah, Yoda and Ghost-Ob1 are left standing in the after glow of his X-wing. *G-Ob1 says "That boy is our last hope" or something like that. *Yoda replies"No... There is another," meaning, I believe Leia. *

Wouldn't Ob1 know about Leia? *Maybe somehow he didn't in order to protect her. *I haven't completely thought this through yet so maybe I can get some help from you guys.
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Actually he's talking about vader, because how in the heck could they train leia that quick if luke lost? and also its on the official star wars website on a hyperspace movie I think where its shows the clip where he says "that boy is our last hope" "no there is another" then after that it shows the anakin from episode 1.
So yeah I think that it means vader like yoda knew that luke would redempt vader to turn back into anakin. and also obi wan already knew about leia so...