Episode II on DVD and VHS

[Teek]

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20020801.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/08/news20020801.html)

They're putting out a full screen version of the dvd also. People who would buy that dvd SUCK.

What's on both dvd's:

1) Attack of the Clones, mastered directly from the digital source by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English) and Dolby 2.0 Surround (English, Spanish and French)
2) Audio commentary by Writer-Director George Lucas; Producer Rick McCallum; Editor and Sound Designer Ben Burtt; Visual Effects Supervisors Pablo Helman, John Knoll and Ben Snow; and Animation Supervisor Rob Coleman, offering personal insights into the making of the film.
3) Eight deleted scenes created for the DVD release, with introductions by George Lucas, Rick McCallum and Ben Burtt
4) "From Puppets to Pixels," an all-new, full-length documentary that tracks the revolution in digital character animation, featuring the creation of the digital Yoda, Dexter Jettster and more
5) "State of the Art: The Previsualization of Episode II," an all-new documentary featuring never-before-seen Animatics of Episode II
6) Ben Burtt and his team explain the process of creating the sound for Episode II in the all-new documentary "Films Are Not Released; They Escape"
7) Three behind-the-scenes featurettes exploring Episode II's storyline, action scenes and love story
8) All 12 parts of "Making Episode II," the web documentaries that first appeared here at starwars.com
9) The "Across the Stars" music video featuring John Williams
Downloaded by millions from starwars.com, the original theatrical teaser and launch trailers, plus 12 TV spots
10) Galleries of theatrical posters, print campaign from around the world, and never-before-seen production photos
11) An Episode II visual effects breakdown montage from Industrial Light & Magic
12) HoloNet News website
13) DVD-ROM weblink to exclusive Star Wars content

The VHS includes

Six deleted scenes and a "Star Wars Connections" featurette hosted by R2-D2 and C-3PO, who explain the Star Wars story to new fans of the series.

[Justin]

Why isn't the "Star Wars Connections" thingamajiggy on the DVD?

[sonofsam]

Just seeing the release date today, made me forget my anticipation forTueday's arrival, when Lord of the Rings comes out. This DVD is going to rock. I am sure that one of the deleted scenes will be with Padme's family, but I truly hope they will include the Lost twenty conversation between Obi and Jocasta Nu. As do I hope they include the extended lightsaber duel. I am sure that this DVD will have even more Easter Eggs than TPM. It sure will be a treat.

[BL-17]

Originally posted by Justin@Aug. 01 2002 - 20:31
Why isn't the "Star Wars Connections" thingamajiggy on the DVD?
If it isn't, that kinda stinks, but I'll probably end up bying both the VHS and DVD.

[LordTyranus]

Originally posted by BL-17+Aug. 01 2002 - 22:46--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BL-17 @ Aug. 01 2002 - 22:46)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Aug. 01 2002 - 20:31
Why isn't the "Star Wars Connections" thingamajiggy on the DVD?
If it isn't, that kinda stinks, but I'll probably end up bying both the VHS and DVD.[/b][/quote]
same here

[Darth Badly]

Let us all hope that the eight extra scenes will help us make sense of this puppu. I wish they'd put the extra scenes in a version of the film in the right place though. They should release the original cimema release AND a version with the extra scenes in. Both in the same 2 disc box of course.

[STar war spUNK]

are the six deleted scenes on the vhs different than the ones on the dvd?

i might just have to end up buying both dvd and vhs, because i have a nice collection of vhs and it would look incomplete without aotc. i wonder if they will do a different thing for widescreen vhs like they did last time.

[Bandersnatch]

This is really great, but I wonder why they're even bothering to put out a Pan&Scam version of the DVD. They didn't with TPM, why with this?

???

[Martini]

why the HELL would GL cut out something from the lightsaber scene?!?! thats sooooooooooo dumb!!! grrrrrrrrr, makes me soo mad at him, what an idiot!

i thought that the part where anakin has 2 lightsabers going at once was pure genius and just as good as the double bladed lightsaber. all well, maybe ill get to see it again in episode III, but probably not style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

[Martini]

and does anyone think the weblink on this DVD might give us some Episode III info in late 2003 or sometime in 2004?

[sbaxter]

>This is really great, but I wonder why they're even bothering to put out a Pan&Scam version of the DVD. *They didn't with TPM, why with this?

Especially since you know that anyone who tries to rent the movie at Blockbuster won't be able to find any other format there. Drives me nuts.

I wonder if the studios actually do that on purpose? On a movie like this, if you were borderline about buying it but wanted to see the letterboxed version, that might be the thing that makes you decide to buy rather than rent.

>i thought that the part where anakin has 2 lightsabers going at once was pure genius and just as good as the double bladed lightsaber.

Better, I'd say, because the use of two sabers allows the wielder to attack from two independent angles.

Qapla'

SSB

[Justin]

The "two-lightsabers" thing was just a gimmick.

[Angel_Blue]

I hope they put the deleted Ki Odi Mundi and Plo Koon scene in iv heard its cool, do u guys mean Nov 12 2002 or 2003? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[sbaxter]

>The "two-lightsabers" thing was just a gimmick.

So? The double-bladed saber was just a gimmick as well. In a real fight, Darth Maul vs. two Jedi would have been in deep trouble _very_ fast.

>do u guys mean Nov 12 2002 or 2003?

2002. Lucas decided not to wait so long this time.

Qapla'

SSB

[Pepper]

I should prob'ly get (another) second job just to pay for all my entertainment "needs" ! *I recently quit my other two jobs but if I'm going to be buying the "Fellowship of the Ring" DVD and the AOTC DVD, plus a new M*cr*$*ft operating system (it's Windows 2000 for me, or nothing! *right now it's nothing...) for my computer, plus some cool new games and hardware, then I'm going to have to acquire more income.
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Anyway...
I'm really looking forward to seeing the Ki and Plo lightsaber scene. *If in fact it's going to be included, that is. *Does anyone know (not guess, or think) what deleted scenes are going to be on the disc?

[bodhisattva yoda]

...or if any will be reincorporated into the film?

[Brian]

Originally posted by sonofsam@Aug. 01 2002 - 21:34
Just seeing the release date today, made me forget my anticipation forTueday's arrival, when Lord of the Rings comes out.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I can't wait until Tuesday, but now I am looking forward to November!!!!

I am actually shocked that GL decided to release the films on DVD so soon with the 2 year wait for TPM and all. I guess they're getting their butts in gear to the DVD ready in a timely fashion rather than sit on their arses and making us wait for 2 years. Thank The Force!

[Kit]

Boy, the VHS really gets screwed over doesn't it?!?! That sucks for me... I don't have a DVD player... ???

Still looking forward to it!

BTW: Does anybody really know if the cut scenes will be in the actual presentation of the movie or not?

[Nathan Butler]

I'm pretty exicited to hear about this one. *It's going to mean quite a bit of cash out of my pocket though. *I've made it a point to have each possible major release of the films in different media, except Laserdisc (and I'm working on those) in the past. *Heck, for TPM, I ended up with the DVD, VCD, VHS widescreen, and VHS PAS.

Looks like another expensive release, but, hey, AOTC is, thus far, much as it seems odd to say it, my favorite of the five, so I'll bite.

Also, someone mentioned the LOTR DVD coming: *That's one that REALLY burns my butt. *They're releasing this "collectors edition" now, then just a month or two down the road, we're getting that 3-DVD set with all the extra footage that would've made it rated R and all those goodies. *New Line, or whomever, relseasing the regular DVD version now is a bigger money ploy than ANYTHING Lucasfilm has ever done, and that's saying a lot.

Also, for now, no one's said, as far as I know, that the scenes will be re-integrated. If they do end up taking a TPM DVD approach to the AOTC DVD, that'll be sweet for timeliners like myself. It'll mean we have 5 items in 3 out of the 4 levels of Canon. Now if ony we could get them to do TPM or AOTC Radio Dramas, we could lock up Canon for good!

[RollaFett]

Although I am excited to hear of the officail release date, I must say tha I am disappointed to hear that the 'R2-D2: Beneath the Dome' mocumentary will not be included. I watched the first 2 parts and thought it was pretty damn funny.

As far as the deleted scenes go, well, I hope they include that 'Lost 20' conversation; more of Padme's family on Naboo; Plo Koon and Ki Ad Mundi's adventure on Geonosis. They're other scenes as well, but I don't beleive that they qualify as entire scenes, rather they should be edited back into the movie. They include the cut footage of the Jango/Obi Wan battle and the jango/Mace battle.

[bodhisattva yoda]

it's funny...do they think vhs buyers just aren't familiar with the OT? are dvd buyers considered true fans? what they should do is include the star wars history thing on the fullscreen editions.

[darthwicker]

Here's a link for starwars.com which talks about one of the deleted scenes for the Ep2 dvd.
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20020803.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/08/news20020803.html)

[Nathan Butler]

GollaFett: Take heart. Beneath the Dome WILL be on the DVD. The first poster apparently missed a line on the description, or it has been updated since he copied it. The site now says it IS on the DVD.

However, what gets me is the "Special Edition VHS." There's only one VHS option. In the past, there have always been widescreen and PAS options for VHS releases. Heck, for TPM, there was also a Spanish version. Now it seems VHS users will get only one type to choose from, while DVD users now get to choose.

Either way, I'll end up with one of each, as I have for years now, but still, sucks if you're just a VHS user.

[bodhisattva yoda]

why one of each? is this for collecting purposes?

[Nathan Butler]

Basically. It started back when I picked up the collectors edition letterbox set of the original versions of the Classic Trilogy. That LFL exclusive one. I didn't want to not have regular versions, though, too, so I wouldn't run down the letterbox ones, so I got 'em both.

Then when the THX ones came out, I got the THX ones, not knowing there was a letterbox set out there. So when I found it, I got it too.

Special Editions, I just got both to continue the trend.

Then with TPM, I got the letterbox and fullscreen to continue the trend again, and the when I had the chance to get the SEs and TPM on VCD, I did so, since they were first releases.

Then came the TPM DVD, which was a must-have.

So, I figure, why stop now? :)

[Darth Darthy]

I noticed Teek saying something about HoloNet News. What happened to that? It was an entertaining read. Is it cause it's actual cannon or official and therefor can't be made until they have some of EpIII story?

[RollaFett]

Nathan- Thanks for the good news. Not that 'Beneath the Dome' would've been the lone reason for me buying the DVD, but it makes me happy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[Nathan Butler]

They went right along with the Official Continuity's established idea that soon after the Clone Wars erupt, Palpy shuts down a huge section of the holonet with an executive order. It's as good a cop out as any. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

(Nathan rants and raves about a certain SW publishing cop-out in the next ChronoRadio. Dave Land, beware.)

[Brian]

I just opened my copy of LOTR and it says that the SE of FOTR will be released on DVD on November 12 as well. *Looks like I will be spending a lot of cash (or credit) that day. ???

Regarding the "R2-D2: Beneath the Dome" mockumentary, the official site says that the DVD will include the trailer for the mockumentary. *Exact words are: "R2-D2: Beneath the Dome" mockumentary trailer. Am I just misinterpreting this or is the mockumentary a trailer itself?

[Lonesabre]

Check out this website, its pre-selling Episode II, it shows the cover for the DVD!!!!!

Looks Quality!



Episode II DVD Cover! (http://aol.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php?product_code=2806)

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[sbaxter]

>the LOTR DVD coming: *That's one that REALLY burns my butt. *They're releasing this "collectors edition" now, then just a month or two down the road, we're getting that 3-DVD set with all the extra footage that would've made it rated R

That's actually going to be a four-disc set ... and there will also be a super-duper special _five-disc_ set. It is, I believe, the same as the four-disc set, with an additional disc having a National Geographic Channel documentary on something or other (locations, perhaps?) to do with making the film.

I think the set that was just released will be a rental for me, and I'll buy the four-disc set. Just yesterday I bought the brand new Director's Edition of _The Wrath of Khan_ DVD, so something has to give until next week!

Qapla'

SSB



Qapla'

SSB

[maddog62]

I heard that disk # 5 has Lost Beetles Music and Little Raskels movie that Bill Cosby didn't buy.

[Barry]

DVD Cut:

-Palpatine tells the Senate that Padme has been asassinated and then she shows up.
-Yoda and Mace talk about Padme's asassination attempts, the Darkside, the Sith and bringing balance to the Force.
-More footage of the Coruscant chase.
-Anakin and Obi-Wan's encounter with the Outlander Club bouncer.
-Jocasta Nu gives Obi-Wan background info on Count Dooku in the Jedi library.
-Anakin's first nightmare on the refugee ship.
-An edited down visit of Padme's family.
-Anakin and Padme ride away on a shaak.
-More cut lines added to the fireside scene.
-Extended Obi-Wan and Jango fight on Kamino.
-Padme gives C-3PO an oil bath while discussing her feeling for Anakin.
-Padme meets with Dooku.
-Anakin and Padme's trial.
-A longer love pledge featuring more of Padme's pledge: "My love for you is a puzzle, Annie, for which I have no answers. I can't control it... and now I don't care. I truly, deeply love you, and before we die I want you to know." and also Anakin's pledge: "I have no desire to be cured of this love either. Long or short, I vow to spend the rest of my life with you." and they kiss again.
-Extended Mace and Jango fight in the arena.
-Extended lightsaber duels. More Obi-Wan vs. Dooku(with more Dooku dialogue), Anakin vs. Dooku(including more of Anakin's one lightsaber duel) and Yoda vs. Dooku(including Dooku fighting Yoda with two lightsabers). With the added footage the entire sequence flows much better.
-Jar Jar Binks added to the group witnessing the star destroyers leaving for battle. He has a sad look on his face after realizing the ramifications of his actions.
-The Japor Snippet Anakin gave Padme in The Phantom Menace is added to Padme's neck during the wedding scene.

I know the list seems like a lot of stuff but all of it combined only increase the running time roughly 24 minutes. Keep in mind some of the scenes that were added to the movie are edited versions so they aren't as long.

Disk 2:

-Obi-Wan with the analysis droid.
-Obi-Wan and Mace discussing Anakin and the Yoda probing the Darkside.
-An extended conversation between Anakin and Padme while walking to the Naboo palace and an extended meeting with the Queen.
-Anakin and Padme meet the naked C-3PO and Padme putting on C-3PO's coverings.
-Obi-Wan vs. the Geonosis attack dogs and spying around.
-Extended Tusken slaughter and aftermath.
-Anakin tells Padme to stay on the ship after they land on Geonosis and Padme puts Anakin in his place and their alternative capture scene.
-Storming the droid control ship.

[Martini]

why in the hell did GL cut some of that stuff out? sure the movie was 143 mins long but i think he could have added 7 more mins of that cut stuff into the actual film to make it an even 150 mins................damn that man. what is he thinking?

[Jedi D'oh]

Originally posted by Barry@Aug. 08 2002 - 00:41
DVD Cut:

-Palpatine tells the Senate that Padme has been asassinated and then she shows up.
-Yoda and Mace talk about Padme's asassination attempts, the Darkside, the Sith and bringing balance to the Force.
-More footage of the Coruscant chase.
-Anakin and Obi-Wan's encounter with the Outlander Club bouncer.
-Jocasta Nu gives Obi-Wan background info on Count Dooku in the Jedi library.
-Anakin's first nightmare on the refugee ship.
-An edited down visit of Padme's family.
-Anakin and Padme ride away on a shaak.
-More cut lines added to the fireside scene.
-Extended Obi-Wan and Jango fight on Kamino.
-Padme gives C-3PO an oil bath while discussing her feeling for Anakin.
-Padme meets with Dooku.
-Anakin and Padme's trial.
-A longer love pledge featuring more of Padme's pledge: "My love for you is a puzzle, Annie, for which I have no answers. I can't control it... and now I don't care. I truly, deeply love you, and before we die I want you to know." and also Anakin's pledge: "I have no desire to be cured of this love either. Long or short, I vow to spend the rest of my life with you." and they kiss again.
-Extended Mace and Jango fight in the arena.
-Extended lightsaber duels. More Obi-Wan vs. Dooku(with more Dooku dialogue), Anakin vs. Dooku(including more of Anakin's one lightsaber duel) and Yoda vs. Dooku(including Dooku fighting Yoda with two lightsabers). With the added footage the entire sequence flows much better.
-Jar Jar Binks added to the group witnessing the star destroyers leaving for battle. He has a sad look on his face after realizing the ramifications of his actions.
-The Japor Snippet Anakin gave Padme in The Phantom Menace is added to Padme's neck during the wedding scene.

I know the list seems like a lot of stuff but all of it combined only increase the running time roughly 24 minutes. Keep in mind some of the scenes that were added to the movie are edited versions so they aren't as long.

Disk 2:

-Obi-Wan with the analysis droid.
-Obi-Wan and Mace discussing Anakin and the Yoda probing the Darkside.
-An extended conversation between Anakin and Padme while walking to the Naboo palace and an extended meeting with the Queen.
-Anakin and Padme meet the naked C-3PO and Padme putting on C-3PO's coverings.
-Obi-Wan vs. the Geonosis attack dogs and spying around.
-Extended Tusken slaughter and aftermath.
-Anakin tells Padme to stay on the ship after they land on Geonosis and Padme puts Anakin in his place and their alternative capture scene.
-Storming the droid control ship.
alot of people ive heard have said cut scenes like these exist. most of these are from the novel. as anyone who has ever read "movie books" can tell you, just because it is in the novel does not mean it was filmed or was ever to be in the movie. not that i wouldnt love to see this stuff, alot of it is an authors ideas. remember these key words.....ADAPTED from a screenplay. not to be confused with EXACTLY like the screenplay style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[maddog62]

I heard the anal scene with Padme was actualy shot and will be on disk 2

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Martini@Aug. 08 2002 - 12
why in the hell did GL cut some of that stuff out? *sure the movie was 143 mins long but i think he could have added 7 more mins of that cut stuff into the actual film to make it an even 150 mins................damn that man. *what is he thinking?
So where is this list of cuts from? *Were they just taken from the novel (as speculation), or were these scenes actually filmed and cut? *I'd love to see them on the DVD, but don't want to unnecessarily get my hopes up.

[bodhisattva yoda]

wait...when you say dvd cut, you mean these scenes have been reincorporated into the 'film proper'...? if so, that's ####ing awesome.

[Nathan Butler]

That'd follow LFL's pattern from TPM. There were a lot more things tweaked with TPM than just a couple of re-inserted cut scenes. It sounds like AOTC will be taking the same route.

[Darth Badly]

Sorry - Nathan - just to be clear.

So are you saying these scenes will be inserted into the film on the DVD. or will they be on a separate disc / section?

[Jedi D'oh]

dont know if anyones heard yet, but yesterday on sci-fi channels website under the sci-fi wire, steve sansweet talked about AOTC dvd and said that there were 8 deleted scenes(which is common knowledge) and none were incorperated back into the film style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Nathan Butler]

They make it sound in the ads as if some are going to end up re-integrated, while others won't be, just as they did with the TPM DVD. No one's sure yet.

Then again, we were also told, and even led to believe via the back cover of the DVD, that the TPM DVD would have deleted scenes, but not that they'd be reintegrated. We didn't learn that until much closer to its release date.

And, speaking of which, if you have a fast connection and the TPM:DVD, you really should check out the DVD-ROM exclusive commentary for TPM. It details all the subtle changes created just for the DVD.

[Jedi Master Shaft]

I still hope Lucas will reintroduce some little things in Clones. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

The scenes Lucas reintroduced in Episode One weren't that important; they weren't in the chapters listing, so I guess there is still a chance Lucas reintroduced some little things in the film ( The Lost Twenty, why not ? ).


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[Martini]

yea yea, shaft i know what you mean. like i hope in the commentary we learn even MORE of what may come. sorta like we heard (thats if you listened to the commentary) for TPM. its really good to listen to now and then but at times it gets annoying cause all GL and the other goons talk about is how they were going to do something and how much they loved the special effects and how if they can get Jar Jar to work, then the movie will be great. HA, what does he know

[bodhisattva yoda]

i wasn't aware of TPM being tweaked beyond the inserted scenes. what was tweaked exactly?

[Darth Raptor]

As long as the deleted scene of anakin slaughtering the tuskens is one of the 8 deleted scenes on the dvd im happy. it would be even cooler if that scene can be intergrated back into the movie

[Martini]

yea im still really mad that the sandpeople scene wasnt longer. that would have ruled to see a 3-4 minute fight of anakin against about 20 of them. using tons of force powers and swinging his saber around like crazy. GL really failed on this part of the movie, YET it still had a huge effect on us. it was a really really powerful scene. and the follow-up to it with anakin/padme is the best ever. i think those 10 mins of screentime where he goes after his mother, finds his mom, kills the tuskens, and then flips out near padme is probably the second STRONGEST scene is star wars. the strongest is obviously vader telling luke he is his father and that whole saber scene is the best

[Bandersnatch]

I thought that NOT showing us all the gory details of Anakin killing the Tuskens was far more effective than actually showing it. In fact, it's more disturbing and "dark" the way it is.

[Martini]

poor excuse

[Tovor]

Martini:
why in the hell did GL cut some of that stuff out? *sure the movie was 143 mins long but i think he could have added 7 more mins of that cut stuff into the actual film to make it an even 150 mins................damn that man. *what is he thinking?

I would also like the answer to your first and last question, and agree with everything in between. *What is he thinking? *Why is he so afraid and/or so adamant against presenting a film slightly longer but with more substance to it? *Some of the cut scenes like the Obi-Wan and Jango fight were just a matter of more action equals more excitement, but other scenes were absolutely vital to the story itself in the film alone and the series as a whole; like the senate scenes, Shmi's relationship with Clieg, Beru, and Owen before the Tuskens captured her, Padme's conversation/confrontation with Dooku, ect.
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Badly:
We will discuss this in the Clowns thread rather than here, but I dare say that a large part of your gripe against AOTC stems from the lack of clarity and direction caused by the cutting of several of the scenes mentioned in this thread. *If GL includes the cut scenes as seperate from the whole in a different part of the DVD, then he is only showing us what could have been. *But if he reincorporated them into the flow of the movie he would overcome the weak areas in an otherwise great movie.

[TEXAS]

Are you guys aware of any of the additionnal scenes, i mean are they going to make it to the final DVD version?
or are they just going to be included in some extra feature section ?

[TEXAS]

I was wondering because the Naberrie dinner on Naboo shouldn't be on the final cut i think.
I personnally would go for scenes that are fast paced or scenes that are important in terms of plot progression, and that scene with padmé's sister & parents doesn't sound too interesting! The lost 20 one on the other hand! well...i would love to see that one ! Can't wait ! want to know more about Dooku

[Jedi Master Shaft]

I agree with you my friend. Count Dooku's a great character and I'd like to see the scene in the film.

I still don't understand why it was cut. It's important to the movie. And I highly doubt the acting was bad.

Unfortunately, it seems that the 8 scenes will be seen only in a deleted scene section.

For the 8 scenes, I only know that the Analysis Droid scene and the Jedi Raid scene will be there. The Lost Twenty should be there also but I don't know anything about the 5 other scenes. Obviously some things with the Naberrie.


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[Martini]

Whats the "Jedi Raid" scene?

[Jedi D'oh]

ki-adi-mundi and plo koon led a bunch of clone troopers on a raid of a trade federation ship. apparently there was alot of lightsaber stuff on this raid. i think thats it. any additions to this anyone? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[Jedi Master Shaft]

The Conference with Dooku scene where Count Dooku asks Padmé Amidala to be apart of the Confederacy of Independent Sytems will be in the cut scenes also.

I have seen an image of that scene where the special effects were completed. So I guess they can add it on the DVD of Clones without any effort.


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[RollaFett]

Martini:
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why in the hell did GL cut some of that stuff out? sure the movie was 143 mins long but i think he could have added 7 more mins of that cut stuff into the actual film to make it an even 150 mins................damn that man. what is he thinking?


My thoughts exactly. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Tovor, do you think seeing those cut scenes would change Badly's perception of the movie?

[Tovor]

Tovor, do you think seeing those cut scenes would change Badly's perception of the movie?
I'm not certain but I dare say yes. If, and I stress IF they are incorporated into the film whole. Otherwise it is like seeing the film with the special effects only half completed in several areas and ships hung by strings. You get the idea of what is supposed to be happening, but you don't get the full experience of it.

[darthwicker]

Here is a post you may find interesting from jwfan.net.

'A friend of mine, who works closely with LucasFilm Licensing here in Italy, gave me a very interesting videotape. It's a collection of the "EPK" (electronic press kit) that LucasFilm prepped exclusively for press conferences and for previews of the movie when it came out on May 2002 (in fact, two of them were showed at the special fan preview here in Italy). It is composed of four featurettes titled "Story", "Love", "Action" and "Music" and shows interviews to all the cast and crew, edited along with film clips and backstage footage. It's the kind of featurettes that usually film companies put on the DVD extras.
On the StarWars.com announce of the last week, I saw that these documentaries will be on the DVD... except for that one on the music, which surely would be of interest of all of us. Why? I don't know, but I have my theory... Since this featurette will not be on the DVD, I'll try to explain what it contains. For the other three... well, wait the DVD. All I can say is that they're great featurettes.
The "Music" EPK clocks at 7 minutes circa and shows interviews with Lucas and Williams. Lucas says the same things he said other times ("Star Wars movies are like silent movies..." etc.) and talks about the Love Theme and the "Asian influence" of the action cues. Williams talks about the creative process of composing a love theme and explain how much his music has to express all the concepts that aren't on-screen, saying that he had to provide the necessary "erotic aspects" of Anakin and Padme's love affair. Williams talks also about on how much he loves composing music for Star Wars and how much Lucas gives him absolute artistic freedom, saying that he only asks for "little adjustments" during the recording sessions.
What is really interesting is the footage of the recording sessions, which shows Williams "shaping" the Love Theme with the London Symphony and conducting it with truly sincere inspiration, with his eyes closed. There's also some really great footage of the recording of the Chase Through Coruscant cue, showing the great percussion section of the LSO hard at work and Williams conducting the piece almost as if he's dancing.
Other interesting tidbits: Williams says that he composed "two and a half hours of music" in a period of three months.
There's a short clip of Lucas and Williams in the Abbey Road recording stage in which Williams says "Five films... with all these themes... and we still haven't a love theme... How could we?"
There's a very short clip with Lucas, Williams and Shawn Murphy in the control booth in which Williams says to Murphy "We have to figure out if the guitar is usable or not..." and Lucas jokes saying "usable or loosable" or some similar joke, letting intend that maybe he didn't like the use of the electric guitar on the Zam chase cue.
There's also some nice footage which shows Williams and Lucas hugging and footage showing Lucas, Williams, Ken Wannberg and Ben Burtt spotting the movie in the editing suite.
That's all. I don't know why this very good featurette will not be on the DVD. It's a pity. Maybe it has to do with what happened to Williams' music in the film or maybe not. Who knows? I hope one day we will be able to see all the footage that was shot during the recording sessions of TPM an AOTC. It's really great to see the Maestro conducting his music, giving his precise instructions to the orchestra and seeing how goes the recording of a film score'.

If this is true, I am very very unhappy, I'm sure it's wonderful viewing.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Tovor@Aug. 18 2002 - 22:52
Tovor, do you think seeing those cut scenes would change Badly's perception of the movie?

I'm not certain but I dare say yes. *If, and I stress IF they are incorporated into the film whole. *Otherwise it is like seeing the film with the special effects only half completed in several areas and ships hung by strings. *You get the idea of what is supposed to be happening, but you don't get the full experience of it.
Fett old pal, old buddy.

Just for the record I'd be certainly be willing to sit down with the DVD if (and only if) there were important plot scenes put back into the running sequence of the film itself. *

Although like you guys, I'm not sure trimming them out in the first place was such a great idea. *I understand that filmmakers are worried about films being too long for audiences (which many are, God knows) BUT the choice of keeping long slow love scenes in while trimming out stuff which was much more (potentially)interesting seems a duff move to moi.

[maddog62]

I agree with Badly on that piont we didn't need an hour of Han and Leia groping and flirting to know they fell in love.

[Lonesabre]

I got a leaflet today from someone who works for Fox Entertainment. Its got detailed breakdown for the features on the DVD, sadly though, no breakdown of the deleted scenes. It lists all the other features we have spoken about.

Interestingly, both Episodes I and II will be released together in boxsets for DVD and Video as well...

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[Jedi Master Shaft]

An Episode One/Clones-pack ?

Then I guess there will be a Prequel-pack before the Ultimate Edition is released in DVD.


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[Jedi D'oh]

dont know if you know, but the Ep I/II set of dvd is FULLscreen only, not widescreen. personally, i see no reason to buy it. the box art is no different, and i dont like to watch a movie in fullscreen anymore. i have the widescreen versions, thats all i need. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

[JediJaina]

I am very excited at the prospect of the DVD coming out. I just got a DVD player two months ago and I am never going back to video! :roll:

[RollaFett]

Badly- Nice to see that we see eye to eye on something. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Darth Badly]

Fett, old pal, old buddy, - Did ya get my PM? Send me your details again. Your prize is waiting here, ready to go. :)

[OWK]

Here's the cover for the Ep1/Ep2 box set.
Box Set Cover (http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/ep1&2_fsboxlg.jpg)

[Jedi Master Shaft]

Well, I don't think that many people will buy this full screen Episode One / Clones pack.


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[RollaFett]

I agree, it seems to be a waste of time for Lucasfilm to even produce it, IMO.

[bodhisattva yoda]

the cover art for the phantom menace and attack of the clones seems off... it leads me to believe that there will be an ultimate edition of the prequels when everything is in its final phase...otherwise why wouldn't they use the vastly superior theatrical artwork which is much more in the spirit of star wars...? i think they might just be saving it for the final editions.

[Jedi Master Babi Blu]

I think that when all six movies come out on dvd that there will be a six pack included with 2 disks of special features, so if that were to happen were looking at an 8 disk set. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif :scratchchin: :scatter: :banghead: :pacattack:

[Jedi Master Babi Blu]

:0 :crazy: :pacattack: :scratchchin: :grouphug: :banghead: :music: :joystick: :blush: :devil: :love: :hehe: :lol: :unhappy:

[RollaFett]

A little smilie happy, aren't we?

[Lonesabre]

Not really anyhting to do with the release on DvD of anything but earlier this morning I saw an advert on TV {for us in the UK} that the first four Starwars films are 'coming soon' to ITV1!

Should be cool!!!

:eek:

[OWK]

Here's the AOTC DVD Menu Screens! (from TFN)

[see below]

They are NICE!!

[Jedi Master Shaft]

I love the 'chapters' menu of Kamino. They all look very good, indeed...

Oh, and there a review of the first disc of the Clones DVD here (http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13158) on AICN.


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[OWK]

Good review! I cant wait for this DVD any longer!!!

[Jedi Master Shaft]

These two menus look good, too.


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[darthpsychotic]

It appears something happened to my other post.
TFN took down the screenshot story on their Episode 2 page. The pictures are still on the server. For some reason these two extra screenshots were never reported by them.

Here they are again...
[see below]

[freedom01851]

It has been reported that there are DVD quality copies of AOTC on the net. Not that I condone bootlegging, but, I was curious. So, with a DSL line, I can indeed report back that there are DVD quality video up on file-swapping networks. The sound is dead on and the video is also very good.

[freedom01851]

It has been reported that there are DVD quality copies of AOTC on the net. Not that I condone bootlegging, but, I was curious. So, with a DSL line, I can indeed report back that there are DVD quality video up on file-swapping networks. The sound is dead on and the video is also very good.

[darthpsychotic]

http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_attackoftheclones_DVDRip_SVCDi.jpg

[darthpsychotic]

TFN took down their bootleg DVD screens after they got heat from their own forum members.

Here are 6 of them + the 2 that weren't posted publically:

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg1.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg1.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg2.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg2.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg3.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg3.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg4.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg4.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg5.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg5.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg6.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg6.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg7.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg7.jpg)

episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg8.jpg (http://thugetneral.homestead.com/files/episode2_dvdmenu_TFNbootleg8.jpg)

[Jedi Luke]

Does anybody have any news about the 8 deleted scenes and what they will be? Or has anybody heard any rumours about what they will be?

[Jedi Master Shaft]

It has been confirmed that the 'Droid analysis' scene with Master Kenobi in the Jedi Temple will be there and since it was said recently on the Official Site that the 'Jedi raid' scene with Plo Koon and Ki-Adi-Mundi has been completed with special effects, I guess it will be there, too. I read in a interview a long time ago that George Lucas said to the ILMers that the lost scene of 'C-3PO being completed by Padmé' would be on the DVD, and I have a picture of Padmé Amidala and Anakin Skywalker with a Geonosian at the conference table, so since this 'conference with Dooku' scene seems to be completed, I assume it will be on the DVD.

'Droid analysis'
'Jedi raid'
'C-3PO being completed by Padmé'
'Conference with Dooku'

For the other eight scenes well,... I really don't know.


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[Martini]

[QUOTE]on the Official Site that the 'Jedi raid' scene with Plo Koon and Ki-Adi-Mundi has been completed with special effects[QUOTE]

heres a good question....what happens with those two in the Jedi Raid Scene? who do they kill (probably just stupid driods) and how do they get off the ship?

i can see why this wasnt included, cause i think both of those jedis look really lame and we dont need to see their characters that much. Only in EP 3 when Vader kills them without any effort.

[Darth Vegas]

You mean the guy that will be "but a learner"?

Seriously, I think Ki-Adi Mundi looks retarded, but Plo Koon, he's not that bad, I like his mask.

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[Jedi Master Shaft]

Ki-Adi-Mundi looks good, I think.

To answer to Martini's question well I don't think they get out of the ship. I believe George Lucas filmed them on blue screens and added them in the battle after he decided to cut the scene.


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[Isomorph]

I'm just glad we don't have to wait over a year for AOTC.

[Jedi Master Shaft]

True. But we have again 3 years to wait for Episode III and about 5 years or more for the SWSaga Ultimate Edition...
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[Isomorph]

Yeah but in the mean time we have all the other movies to watch and try and figure out how Ep3 will play out thats the best part,about waiting.

[Martini]

nah i was hoping GL would have done the same move for AOTC DVD as he did with TPM. i wanted AOTC to come out summer/fall 2004 so we could do the same thing by getting pumped up for the next film in the trilogy and to have those trailers on tv and online.

but i agree too with Isomorph, I kinda want 5 out of the 6 episodes NOW! just so i got most of the trilogy and can get an idea of what the missing piece will be

[DanielSkywalker]

I read somewhere on a website that the running time on the AOTC DVD was aprox. 175 minutes. Now, if I did my math correctly, that is 5 minutes away from being 3 hours. Is this information incorrect, or is Mr. Lucas adding some of the deleted scenes into the film itself?

[Brian]

Originally posted by DanielSkywalker@Sep 12 2002, 12:46 PM
I read somewhere on a website that the running time on the AOTC DVD was aprox. 175 minutes. Now, if I did my math correctly, that is 5 minutes away from being 3 hours. Is this information incorrect, or is Mr. Lucas adding some of the deleted scenes into the film itself?
It was only ~2:15 (135 min.) last time I checked.

[Frendon]

this is from theforce.net

Complete List of Deleted Scenes
Thu, Sep 12, 02 11:27:45 PM EDT


Prequel Watch scores what may possibly be the rest of the deleted scenes on the Episode II DVD. They've got a list of the ones their sources tell them are in, and a few others we also managed to confirm from the DVD trailer as well. Cool stuff and good scoop. Pay them a visit for other tidbits as well:
Opening Senate Scene [confirmed]
Obi-Wan & The Analysis Droid [confirmed]

Extended Jedi Library Scene ("Lost 20 Jedi" Discussion)

Obi-Wan & Mace Windu Discussion in Jedi Temple Hangar [confirmed]

Naberrie Family Scene(s) [confirmed]

Anakin & Padme Trial on Geonosis [confirmed]

Extended Dooku/Yoda Duel (Dooku w/ two lightsabers)

Ki-Adi Mundi & Plo Koon Droid Control Ship Raid

[Brian]

Just about 37 days left until the release!!!

[Brian]

Check this link out (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/feature/20021008/index.html) to read some info regarding the AOTC DVD!

[Darth Darthy]

Thankfully I'll have it before you folks cause I live in the UK (just watched Empire on TV last night too). Ha. Aha. Aha-ha-haaaaaa ha ho.
And who says the UK stinks of backwards-non-Taco Bellness-never-heard-of-Cap'n-Crunch-or-generally-anything-goodness?

Me.

[James]

these are the deleted scenes showing in the dvd

Padmé Addresses the Senate.
Jedi Temple Analysis Room.
Obi-Wan & Mace - Jedi Landing Platform.
Extended Arrival on Naboo.
Padmé's Parents' House.
Padmé's Bedroom.
Dooku Interrogates Padmé.
Anakin and Padmé on Trial.

[Brian]

More news from TOS regarding the deleted scenes.

Click here (http://www.starwars.com/databank/news/2002/10/news20021023.html).

[Brian]

Who's getting the DVD AND the VHS? I'm getting the VHS just for the "Star Wars Connections" featurette hosted by R2-D2 and C-3PO. I don't need to have it, but why not. It's not going to be on the DVD. I might get it a few months after I get the DVD, but I am still going to get it.

Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones Special Edition VHS includes six deleted scenes and a "Star Wars Connections" featurette hosted by R2-D2 and C-3PO, who explain the Star Wars story to new fans of the series.

Just 18 days left until it's release!

[Jedi Daniel]

Hello All

Not sure if any Australian Star Wars post here but if there is take note of this. If you pre-order your AOTC DVD at any K-Mart, Target, Myer or Grace Bros. store, you can get an exclusive AOTC DVD slip case. It's exactly the same thing as what they did with the TPM DVD before in Australia. Thought I'd let you know.

This is what the slip case looks like.

Australian Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones DVD Slip Case (http://www.nenya.net/x/card_large.jpg)

[Lonesabre]

Well its nearly a week until EPII is released and I seriously cannot wait.

Ive just had a major worry! Its nearly 6 months since I really enjoyed AOTC at the cinema and I loved it! But after only seeing it twice and with six months of expectation brewing inside me am I just full of false hope and clouded memories of a rubbish film that I thought was great and will just bore after repeated viewings at home!?!?! {Mentioning no names, The Phantom Menace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif}

Guess Ill find out in 170 hours or so!!!

[bodhisattva yoda]

the phantom menace grows on me every viewing. i expect clones to do the same.

[Justin]

Blockbuster is getting a shipment of Attack of the Clones DVDs on Tuesday, so we employees get to watch it before everyone else.

Nya-nya, you guys have to wait ten days, but I get to see it the day after tomorrow!! HOO-HAH!!!

[Lonesabre]

On second thoughts, me to. I loved TPM at the cinema but the first couple of views at home were a task to say the least {I think I even fell asleep once}.

Now I love watching it, especially whilst trying to notice more and more things to help EpIII speculation!

[Lonesabre]

I work at ASDA {WalMart for you yanks style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif} Weve just had our batch of EpII videos and DVDs in! I want one! But cant have one until Monday!!!!!!

AAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[spaceman2386]

Originally posted by bodhisattva yoda@Nov 3 2002, 01:33 PM
the phantom menace grows on me every viewing. i expect clones to do the same.
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[Brian]

Do you know if Walmart is going to start selling the DVD at midnight of Nov. 12?

[Isomorph]

hey what about those 24hr k-marts anybody know if they will sell AOTC at midnight?

[Admiral Piett]

I'll be getting the Widescreen dvd. Can't wait!

[Jedi D'oh]

Mine is on pre-order so I get it as soon as it comes to the store.

[Lonesabre]

I dont know. In the UK its available from when stores open on the morning of Nov 11th. Because of Sunday trading laws stores cant open any earlier on the Monday morning, I think. But I will be getting it as early as possible! Dont you guys get it until the 12th? If so, unlucky! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Mine is on pre-order so I get it as soon as it comes to the store.

Mine was to but I cancelled it. I would be well annoyed if it didnt turn up for some reason.

[Javen]

I will be watching EP II tonight plus all the goodies on to, my brother works at BlockBuster and got it tonight.

[Brian]

Just 5 days left!!!

[Jedi D'oh]

I've not had a problem with any preorders in the past. Plus at Media Play, if you preorder it, you get a keychain with a clonetrooper head on it. I got a Obi-wan saber with my TPM preorder. Just cool to have.

[Brian]

Just for the record, AOTC will be released on home video in just about 12 HOURS!!! Is anyone else as excited about this as I am? I just can't wait! And yes, it IS that big of a deal!!!

[Jedi D'oh]

I agree. I can't wait to get it.

I watched TPM with my son this weekend. His first time. He loved it. Of course, it's all he's ever seen. But from a 4 year olds perspective, he was thrilled. We will watch AOTC this weekend.

I will probably get it tonight, but definately tomorrow.

[Martini]

how are u gonna get it tonight?

but im gonna go during my lunch break tomorrow and get EP2 and Lord of the Rings. i cant wait. Best Buy, here i come

[Jedi D'oh]

The old midnight madness stuff. Most places are opening for a little while at midnight to sell it.

[Martini]

whats the point? your not gonna watch it that night

[Jedi D'oh]

And you know this how?

[Martini]

figure you MIGHT have a job that you need to sleep for

[Jedi D'oh]

Sleep is for the weak. I usually stay up till 1 or 2 am anyway. Can't help it I'm a night owl. I have to be at work at 8 am. I leave the house around 7. 3-5 hours of sleep is fine with me. I catch up on the weekends.

[Martini]

thats what i do too for sleep. but you get become a diabetic if u only get that much sleep for a while

[Brian]

Ok, I will not be going to get AOTC at midnight madness at Walmart. I will get a better deal at Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/Homepage/WeeklyStoreAd.asp). They give you a free AOTC calender with the purchase of the AOTC DVD or VHS for only $15.99. To me, that's worth waiting until the sun comes up (10:00 am).

~OBG

[bodhisattva yoda]

i bought my copy on the tenth. did it come out early or did the store i bought from sell it illegally or something?

[Brian]

Ok, I know I am beating this thread to death, but who (in the eastern time zone) is going to get AOTC at midnight (about 22 minutes away)?

I am sooo tempted, but I think I will have to force myself to sleep so that I don't ruin it and get it tonight.

[Jedi D'oh]

I read that some stores were releasing it early, but there was a memo with the shipment that said early sales would cause a fine of $500,000. Not a typo!!

I would go to that store you bought it from and see if that cat is still working there. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[RollaFett]

Well, I passed on the midnight madness. I will stop at Best But on my way to work in about an hour and get my copy. Ooohhhh, I'm so tempted to simply call out of work and just watch it all day!

[Brian]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Nov 12 2002, 12:25 PM
Ooohhhh, I'm so tempted to simply call out of work and just watch it all day!
I was too!!! LOL!!!

[Tovor]

People, heads up!!!!!!!
I just bought the VHS Attack of the Clones at Walmart for 9.88, the cheapest I've seen it anywhere!!!!

It's a sale to outbeat all their competitors, and it only lasts until this Saturday, but both the VHS and the DVD are selling for $9.88!!!!

Unfortunately, the VHS is not selling there in Widescreen format, only pan and scan, but the DVD is of couse in Widescreen. I don't have a DVD player, but I am tempted to go back before Saturday and buy the DVD for a just in case scenario that I might buy one in the future.

O-B-Gates, I read what you said about Brandsmart selling it for 15.99 including an AOTC calender so I intended to go to Brandsmart. But I wasn't thinking right and went to Walmart instead, and what a great deal I found thanks to my mistake.

Walmart is not paying me to plug them, honest, but how can you go wrong for 9.88 until Saturday! This is south Florida so I don't know if it's different elsewhere in the country.

[RollaFett]

Widescreen or fullscreen? And I thought you had a DVD player. ???

[Tovor]

I just edited and added more info Golla. Sadly, no widescreen in VHS. No, I didn't have a DVD player, but my cousin does have a DVD player on a large screen TV with Surround Sound speakers, so I'll buy the DVD just to be able to watch it on his TV.

[Brian]

To Walmart I will go!!! Haha!

~OBG

[Tovor]

Heh heh, shoulda taken advantage of that midnight madness after all, eh OB?
I hope it's nationwide and not just in select states or individiual stores.

[RollaFett]

Yes! Wal-mart it is! Hopefully the same sale is going on up here in Jersey!

[Tovor]

Yeah, I hope so too. The VHS has a 3PO hosted documentary in the beginning which I have not watched yet, and the label says that it comes with deleted scenes, but I don't know if they are the same 8 deleted scenes that are on the DVD. I admit I did not turn it on at the start of the movie, I fast forwarded it to watch the arena battle and clone battle first.

[Tovor]

"To be angry is human."
"I'm a Jedi, I know I'm better than this."

It's there in the movie, not a seperate part!

[Brian]

Originally posted by Tovor@Nov 12 2002, 12:59 PM
Yeah, I hope so too. The VHS has a 3PO hosted documentary in the beginning which I have not watched yet, and the label says that it comes with deleted scenes, but I don't know if they are the same 8 deleted scenes that are on the DVD. I admit I did not turn it on at the start of the movie, I fast forwarded it to watch the arena battle and clone battle first.
Since the DVD and VHS only cost $9.88 I will be getting both! From what I remember, there were supposed to only be 6 deleted scenes on the VHS, not 8. Ah, who cares? The deleted scenes will probably suck anyway (i.e. no droid ship raid).

~OBG

[Tovor]

I just watched through to the end from when Anakin killed the Tuskens. At the end, the scene I've heard of when Padme takes Anakin's mechanical hand is there, but no trial on Geonosis where Padme talks to Dooku...one of the scenes I wanted to see most. It may be before the film starts as part of the documentary, but I had so hoped it would be included in the flow of the story. No droid ship raid in the movie, sorry. One thing that struck me as new was during the discussion between Dooku and the Geonosian leader when he said they would have to retreat. Dooku has an extended line in that sequence which I did not remember from my theatre viewings.

[Frendon]

Originally posted by Tovor@Nov 12 2002, 01:04 PM
"To be angry is human."
"I'm a Jedi, I know I'm better than this."

It's there in the movie, not a seperate part!
U r right!!! i just got it the dvd rocks!! there is a lot of stuff that has been added.

[Frendon]

Also in the final scene when padme and anakin are getting married, she grabs his robotic hand!!!, like in the imax version!!! this thing rocks!!

I have not watch the whole movie yet but so far a lot of things have been "reincorporated".

[Jedi D'oh]

Well, Tovor, it's only your Walmart you lucky sonofa... oops, you're a mod. Can't curse YOU!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Anyhoos, I just went to my Walmart here in Georgia and the DVD was regular price as well as the VHS. So right on for you!

[Martini]

Lucas is an idiot........why didnt he show Padme grabbing the robot arm in the theaters? matters NO sense!

[Isomorph]

holy cow man the WS DVD kicks a_ _ I didn't do the midnight madness thing and decided to wait,I went to target and picked up my copy for 15.99 this morning as soon as they opened up,the picture and sound is much better than TPM,I think I'm gonna cry man,I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy I love you all style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

[Frendon]

LOL i agree with you martini, but i love what they have done with the dvd.

[Isomorph]

Originally posted by Martini@Nov 12 2002, 07:48 PM
Lucas is an idiot........why didnt he show Padme grabbing the robot arm in the theaters? matters NO sense!
he did show her grab the robot hand but only on the digital showing of clones,if you saw it on the analog screen's then that scene had not been added yet,it was put in later thats why its only in the digital version. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Tovor]

Jedi D'oh:
Well, Tovor, it's only your Walmart you lucky sonofa... oops, you're a mod. Can't curse YOU!!

D'oh! Sorry! But curse my Walmart for having it and yours' for not! BTW, I was not saying your name, that was a genuine d'oh!

Wow...I did not watch the whole video to the end but I did watch the deleted scenes. They are at the end of the video rather than the beginning which I had assumed. I was impressed with them all visually, bored with a couple and understood why they were deleted, and then outright upset that certain ones were not included in the film from the beginning.

The scene at the Naberrie dinner table, or lunch table, seemed a bit awkward as Padme's parents treated her as a young daughter home from summer camp rather than an accomplished former queen and current galactic senator; more so when they referred to Anakin as her boyfriend. Yet, I still wish that had been in the movie for it showed more of Padme as a person with cares and needs which we didn't really get much of in the film. What was very unusual and more awkward was that although I love Padme's abdomen and bare back, and think she's very sexy in those areas, why would a senator and former queen, traveling with a young man she knows has a creepy crush on her, return home to her parent's home half naked in that outfit? She looked like she was headed to Daytona Beach for Spring Break. What I did like about the bedroom scene was that she revealed that she much preferred the warmth of her family home rather than the place she sometimes stayed at on Coruscant. That made the "I shouldn't have come back" line make more sense.

The scene with Obi-Wan and Mace in the bay and on the launch platform was visually exciting. Part of the dialogue there was transferred and used instead in the scene with Yoda and them about Anakin's arrogance, so in a small way that scene was not needed. However, I liked what Obi-Wan said about someone not wanting them to find Kamino, and Mace replying that then they must find it to see what is hidden there (paraphrased). Then, Obi-Wan said he realized that Anakin had been started in training at too late an age and that he had an emotional attachment with Padme since he was a boy that left him confused and possibly unable to protect her. Even though some of the dialogue was used elsewhere in the Yoda scene, I think that that part of the launch platform scene was very important and should have been kept in.
And hey, wow! The fighter takes off and heads for a line of hyperspace booster rings, apparently docked there for whenever Jedi knights take off for missions! I loved that! But one thing that troubled me was that Mace walked to the back of the fighter before it lifted up from the platform and stood there very close to the edge as the fighter expelled hot burning gases and a blast of air thrust. Geez...on aircraft carriers there are warnings about staying away from props and afterburners so you don't get blasted over the side of the ship when a jet launches. Was Mace that confident of the Force to protect him?

The scene with the analysis droids studying the Kamino dart. Visually cool, but good call on leaving it out.

The scene where Padme confronts Dooku...the footnote before the scene said that the temptation from Dooku to Obi-Wan to join him made that scene unnecessary, but I think it absolutely should have been part of the film because it showed Padme's attempt to save Obi-Wan and an important line from Dooku that the Republic could not be fixed. The dialogue could have been better, but that scene should have been in the movie despite and still including the Dooku-Obi-Wan scene.

The trial, a scene I had so wanted to see...
Anakin just stood there like a dumb putz. He's a damn Jedi-to-be, and he doesn't have anything to say to men and non-humans about their acts of war? I liked the impatient reaction of the Viceroy to give the sentence, and I liked Padme's question about whether they were prepared to go to war with the Republic...and the reply "We manufacture weapons, of course we are ready." That should have been in the movie. I know it would have interrupted the flow of action from the factory fighting to the arena battle, but it would have shown more of the political aspects of the civil war as well as a larger picture of the threat the Seperatists posed.

A cut scene I so wanted to see which was not even mentioned, was the scene where Shmi is with Clieg and Owen and Beru, and mainly when Shmi and Owen talked about Anakin and the good he was likely doing in the galaxy. There you would have gotten an idea of the respect Owen had for Anakin before the turn to the dark side, a respect which we know did not last to ANH.

That's all I remember for now. I plan to watch it again soon from start to finish. Hopefully there are little tidbits of additions scattered throughout the film that I didn't see in the last half.

[Darth Vegas]

Wasn't the "lost 20" scene supposed to be on the dvd?

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[Brian]

Well I went to the Wally Mart here in Athens and the DVD AND VHS were both $9.97+tax. In all, I spent $21.34 for them. I remember paying $15.99 for TPM VHS back in 2000 and $22.99 for the DVD last year. I guess I am getting it back with the cheap DVD and VHS this time around.

~OBG

[Tovor]

Well I went to the Wally Mart here in Athens and the DVD AND DVD
You got the DVD and the DVD? Wow, you got 'em both, both of one of them! lol

[Brian]

Yeah, I got the VHS for the featurette with Threepio and Artoo. Basically. Plus, it was only $10.

[Tovor]

That's not what I mean. I understood that you got both the VHS and the DVD, but you wrote "DVD and DVD", so I was makin' fun of your typo. It's why I said "both of one of them". =)
Have you watched either one yet?

[Frendon]

Wait a minute, i'm a little confused, you got the dvd for 9.97 + tax? and the vhs for 9.97 + tax? the dvd was 15.99 + tax in bestbuy, if it is that cheap on wallmart i'm gonna return it!!

[Brian]

Tovor: I am a bone-head! The typo is corrected. Hehe. And, no, I have not got the chance to watch them yet.

Frendon: You might want to check first, but yes, they were that cheap at Walmart, the DVD and the VHS.

[Frendon]

But are they gonna ask for my free calendar when i return them? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif i don't want to give it away!!!

[Brian]

I thought of buying AOTC from Bestbuy, getting the free calender, returning the movie later that day, and keeping the free calender. Let me know what they say so I can do it too. Hehe!

[Tovor]

Oh good, now that you've corrected it when people see my making fun of your typo they'll think I'm the bonehead! Heh.

Frendon, I got mine at a Walmart in Broward County. It's probably 9.88 in the southern part of Broward too.

[Frendon]

Ok thanks tovor and OB, i'll check it.

[Siamese Sith]

Originally posted by Frendon@Nov 12 2002, 02:21 PM
Also in the final scene when padme and anakin are getting married, she grabs his robotic hand!!!, like in the imax version!!! this thing rocks!!

I have not watch the whole movie yet but so far a lot of things have been "reincorporated".
Hey Frendon did ya hear Jango bang his head getting into slave 1?

[Frendon]

I heard it, i also put the commentary ON and George mentioned it and the special fx guy said that they did it on purpose BUT i think it was terribly done, if you don't know he is supposed to bang his head you will think he didn't.

[Siamese Sith]

Yeah it seemed like an afterthought.
On another note did you watch the documentary on Digiyoda? Happen to notice what episode yoda they were originally working from???

[Frendon]

yup from ESB, but they were just testing it, but i'm sure that when GL releases his "ultimate edition" he is going to replace yoda in ESB and ROTJ for the CG yoda. That's why i would love if they do something like they did for the ET dvd, have the original movies in one disc or a side of the disc and the Movies with all the changes in another disc or the other side of a disc.

[Tovor]

Frendon:
I heard it, i also put the commentary ON and George mentioned it and the special fx guy said that they did it on purpose
What? Say that again...did you say what I think you said? It sure sounded like you said "Yeah Tovor, you were right about that, you were right all along you smart cookie you!" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif Heh heh heh.

[Frendon]

LOL style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif i never was AGAINST you on that Tovor, i just needed confirmation, i still think they did it wrong, it looks like they did the animation and then GL said, you know what would be funny? if he bangs his head with the door like the stormtrooper in ANH, the animators agreed and all they did was to put then bang sound in there, and then comment on the dvd of how they did all that on purpose.

[Frendon]

oh Tovor i checked on my nearest wallmart and the dvd is 19.99 in there, so i will keep the one i have now.

[Darth Whaler]

A goof! Here's something I noticed (if this has been reported and is old news, I apologize)...in the arena battle. Ki-Adi Mundi's lightsaber changes colors! It's quick so you have to look carefully.

IMMEDIATELY before yoda's ship lands, there is a quick shot of Padme. In that quick shot, Ki-Adi is holding a green saber. Then as he is boarding his ship (and at all other times) he is holding a blue one.

Check this out for me if you get a chance. Maybe I'm wrong and it's someone else's saber.

[Tovor]

Frendon, buy it at the one on Copans road in Pompano, off 95.

[Siamese Sith]

Originally posted by Frendon@Nov 12 2002, 09:38 PM
yup from ESB, but they were just testing it, but i'm sure that when GL releases his "ultimate edition" he is going to replace yoda in ESB and ROTJ for the CG yoda. That's why i would love if they do something like they did for the ET dvd, have the original movies in one disc or a side of the disc and the Movies with all the changes in another disc or the other side of a disc.
That would be the right thing to do, but I don't think Lord Lucas will go that route unfortunately.
The more I watch AOTC the more I like digiyoda! I think he looks better than TPM yoda!
Apearance-wise which is your favorite version?

[Frendon]

Tovor I'll go over there tomorrow and see, Darth Whaler that is new to me, i'll check it!!, it is possible, the biggest error is Anakin vs Dooku, his blue saber magically changes places with his green saber.

[Darth Whaler]

Thanks Frendon! And I never noticed that during the duel between Dooku and Anakin. I'll have to check that too!

[Justin]

Did anybody else catch how Lucas makes a reference to "Clerks"?

He said that the Geonosians were the contractors that Jay and Silent Bob (he got that wrong, it was Dante and Randall who said it) were talking about.

[Siamese Sith]

What a dumbass style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Justin]

I wonder what Kevin Smith thinks, having made references to Star Wars in his movies, hearing George Lucas make a reference to one of his movies in Star Wars.

[spaceman2386]

i just got the widescreen DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[StarWarsFan1]

i got the widescreen this morning and i have watched it 3 times since it is great and i love star wars. It made me rember when i was a kid(6-8 years of age) during the summer and me and my best friend would watch rtoj every day. thank you gl.

[MegoHulk]

Did anyone have a problem finding the widescreen version? My Kmart only got fullscreen and so did a TRU near me. I want widescreen...whaaaaaa! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Frendon]

has anybody seen the bloopers? if you have a dvdrom play title 3, for the record Hayden Christiansen is a moron style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Martini]

why is hayden a moron?

and i was watching disc 2 last night and it makes me sooooo mad that GL didnt include one or two of the deleted scenes (and i dont mean the padme ones) and why the HELL didnt he add Dooku using 2 sabers?!?!?! what an idiot! and he's soooo lazy. back in the 80s, he use to do alot of the work, now he just sits there and watches. so lazy and fat

[Frendon]

Originally posted by Darth Whaler@Nov 12 2002, 11:00 PM
in the arena battle. Ki-Adi Mundi's lightsaber changes colors! It's quick so you have to look carefully.

IMMEDIATELY before yoda's ship lands, there is a quick shot of Padme. In that quick shot, Ki-Adi is holding a green saber. Then as he is boarding his ship (and at all other times) he is holding a blue one.
You were right Darth Whaler:

[Darth Whaler]

Woohoo! Thanks Frendon. I'm so proud of myself. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

I want to start a goof thread. If you don't mind, I'll link it to your photo (with due credit of course).

[Obidobi]

Well you lucky bas..... In the country of good old gammel nok Norway the DVD doesn´t come out until Friday.
I caaaan´t wait nomore!!!!!

[RedMirax]

I got the wide screen version at Toys R Us for $9.99!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Seanakin]

Sweetness!!!

Me, I'm waiting to get it for Christmas. MAYBE, if I want to see it badly enough, I'll rent in the meantime.

[Jacen Solo]

I saw it on VHS for the first time tonight. That scene where Anakin tells Padme about slaughtering the village, Padme tells him,

"To be angry is to be human."
"I am a Jedi. I am better than this." (or something to that effect)

That wasn't in the original movie! It was in the novelization, though.

[NIGHTTRAVELER]

The one thing that I noticed on the DVD is that the sound that you hear right before Mace walks in to the room while Yoda is senses Anakins slaughter of the Sandpeople is surley NOT the door sliding across the floor, as I read in a number of posts. I'm not sure if it is a "Vader breath", but it cant be the door sliding across the floor because the door DOESN"T slide across the floor, it opens straight up!!!!

[Obidobi]

Originally posted by Luuke_Skywalker@Nov 14 2002, 09:45 AM
I saw it on VHS for the first time tonight. That scene where Anakin tells Padme about slaughtering the village, Padme tells him,

"To be angry is to be human."
"I am a Jedi. I am better than this." (or something to that effect)

That wasn't in the original movie! It was in the novelization, though.
Ohhhh Yeessss it was!!!

I´ve had a copy of the AOTC a couple of months now. I copied it from a cinema copy , and I have seen that one about 50 times, so ......Wrong dude!!!

[Frendon]

Actually you and him are both in part right, those lines where only in the digital showing of the film, i think, but if you saw it on the analog screen then that scene wasn't there.
I have a cinema copy of the film too and that scene wasn't there so you must have a copy from a digital showing.

[RollaFett]

No sale at my Wal-Mart. Well, it was a dollar cheaper than Best Buy, but no free calander, so Best Buy gets my business this go-round.

Overall, not as impressed with this DVD as much as TPM. The deleted scenes were pretty lame, for the most part. I think that if they waited as long as they did with TPM, they would've included things such as the Droid ship raid and additional lightsaber fights. Probably too time consuming to complete the visuals for those types of scenes. A shame. Also, I really enjoyed the hour long documantary from TPM. AOTC doesn't have one like that. It has a bunch of shorter ones sure, but so did TPM.
Oh well, I'll get over it.

[Brian]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Nov 14 2002, 10:49 PM
Overall, not as impressed with this DVD as much as TPM. The deleted scenes were pretty lame, for the most part. I think that if they waited as long as they did with TPM, they would've included things such as the Droid ship raid and additional lightsaber fights. Probably too time consuming to complete the visuals for those types of scenes. A shame. Also, I really enjoyed the hour long documantary from TPM. AOTC doesn't have one like that. It has a bunch of shorter ones sure, but so did TPM.
Oh well, I'll get over it.
Ditto!

[Justin]

I didn't care that they didn't complete the effects in some of the deleted scenes. They weren't put in the movie, so what's the point?

[Darth Stix]

I just watched the deleted scenes on the DVD for EpII and I can say that Lucas has totally lost touch with his fan base that grew up on star wars all the way back to '77.

Almost all the scense that were cut were character driven scense, most were about padme and how she relates to anakin.

Now, one can still see a lot of poor acting and sub par script writing, but these extra scenes flesh out the relationship a little more, if they were in the film, the "romance" would seem just a little less forced then it did in the final version.

Every time they talked about why the scenes were cut from the flim they said to keep the scenes in the movie it would have made the movie to long.

hello?

Ever hear of "The Lord of the Rings" It was 3 hours! Lucas, heres a tip, we don't care if the movie is 4 hours long, the reason Stars Wars is bigger then all other scifi is not because of the movie moving along at a fast pace, its the charaters and how they interact.

Whj do you thing the Novels like the New Jedi Order series are doing so well?

Because we get to see the charaters interact and grow in ways the movies just can't show.

Darth Stix

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Frendon@Nov 14 2002, 12:17 PM
Actually you and him are both in part right, those lines where only in the digital showing of the film, i think, but if you saw it on the analog screen then that scene wasn't there.
I have a cinema copy of the film too and that scene wasn't there so you must have a copy from a digital showing.
Actually Luuke was correct, it wasn't in either verson of the film in theaters.

Obidoobi, you probably have a bootleg of the home release version, they were quick to finish it after the film was released.

I saw the flick 12 times on the digital screen, and twice on the film version, it is not in either version of the movie.


Gollafett and O-B-GATES, I will concur with you on this matter, the TPM dvd was alot better, as far as deleted scenes go, because they took their time with it. They rushed the AOTC dvd to quick I think, if they had waited, it would have been much better.

However, I doubt this is the last dvd release for either TPM or AOTC, they may just decide to finish all the deleted scenes for both films when they have time after Episode 3.

I'm sure they have a good idea how much us die hard fans wanna see those cut scenes.

[RollaFett]

Bond, I actually agree with you for once! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif At some point after EPIII, I'm sure GL will release humongous DVD set with all 6 movies, all with brand new SE's and the like.

I didn't care that they didn't complete the effects in some of the deleted scenes. They weren't put in the movie, so what's the point?

Well, the point is that there were scenes that I had already heard of being cut from the movie that sounded cool. I wanted to see them.

Almost all the scense that were cut were character driven scense, most were about padme and how she relates to anakin.

Now, one can still see a lot of poor acting and sub par script writing, but these extra scenes flesh out the relationship a little more, if they were in the film, the "romance" would seem just a little less forced then it did in the final version.

I agree 100%! Earlier, I had said that the deleted scenes were lame. I should clarify that a bit. The deleted scenes weren't lame, it was lame how GL didn't include some of the other scenes that we all knew about like the droid ship invasion, obvious missing footage from the ObiWan/Jango fight and the lightsaber duel at the end, and the discussion about the lost 20 Jedi.
Who really was craving to see the Jedi droid analysis scene? Not me.
Now some of the Padme/Anakin scenes were interesting, but it seemed as though there were to many of them. If there were so many scenes that helped flesh out these 2 major characters, why delete them all?! Hell, get rid of the meadow picnic if you want to save time! That scene is just plain vomit inducing.

Alright, I'm done for now.

[MegoHulk]

Yeah the deleted scenes were disappointing. The Padme Anakin scenes should have been left in to help show their relationship. Like when they land on Naboo and are talking and then half a mile later she finishes her sentance. Why not leave the extra 2 minutes in? And show us her family, it really helps show why she's falling for him. Why didn't GL just show us ALL the deleted scenes? So we'll buy another DVD? I'm pissed about the LOTR dvd set...I want those extra 30 minutes but not for an extra 30 dollars! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif

[Siamese Sith]

I think the scene where Anakin meets Padme's parents should have been included as well! It seemed like a necessary scene to better define the relationship.
One scene I know everyone will agree on that should be lining a garbage can is, Anakins nightmare scene. Holy S! if he didn't mutter mom I woulda thought he was rubbin one out!

[RollaFett]

ROTFLMAO, Siamese Sith! Not just for your comment, but for your sig pic, as well!

[Siamese Sith]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif cool huh!? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[RollaFett]

Heh, heh. Yeah.

[Tovor]

I had a problem earlier when I watched my DVD, maybe someone can help me in advance of the next time. This is the first DVD I ever owned so I am unfamiliar with the features and I didn't read the text before we threw it in and watched it. I noticed as soon as Watto began talking that there were no subtitles for his speech and I grew concerned for my cousins who hadn't seen the film and didn't have any idea what was being said. I quickly paraphrased what I remembered from Watto's words, and was concerned about later in the film with the Geonosians and leader of the Commerce Guilt, ect. Sure enough, alien language, no subtitles. Can anyone tell my if the DVD is meant to leave out the subtitles, or is that a feature that needed to be turned on for the film?

[Brian]

I didn't have that problem.

[Frendon]

Tovor:
This dvd has 5 sets of Subtitles:

English 1
English 2 (for the alien languages)
Spanish
French
English 3 (Displays the name of who is talking in the Audio Commentary)

On a dvdrom is very easy to turn them on or off, but i haven't tried it yet on a normal dvdplayer.

[Tovor]

Good ol' Frendon to the rescue. Somehow I knew it would be you with the answers to my dilmemna. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif Thanks my friend! BTW, I've been meaning to get to your request, the one you asked me in PM. Give you questions soon I will, what you seek, that I shall offer. Patience you do have, deliver the result will I. Hmmm, yes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

[Frendon]

LOL thanks tovor, i wasn't sure where to put this screenshot, check out the naboo cow on the geonosis battle:

[NIGHTTRAVELER]

I dont know if this was already covered, but I can't access the blooper reel on my DVD. My player is PS2, and I only have the game controller.

Does anyone know how to get to it?

[RollaFett]

Nah, but there is an Easter Egg thread here (http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=2506), try posting that question there as well.