How Would You Want Episode III to Begin?

[Tovor]

How do you think Episode III should start? *
I think it should start with a massive space battle. *Not since ANH has an episode opened with a spectacular space battle, and I think SW fans and the saga in general is due for one. *AOTC ended with a massive ground battle and the official start of the Clone Wars. *Episode III takes place 2 years later and according to official sources over the past few years, the Clone Wars are still raging. *But what are we to know or expect as Episode III starts? *Are the wars still raging, or at a standstill, or what? *I want the film to open right after the crawl with a space battle so fierce, between Republic Assault Ships (the Star Destroyer ancestors) and Seperatist' Trade Fed battleships, Geonosian warships, and Techno Union ships, that we are reminded that Star Wars does mean star wars. *It will also set the tone for the continuing war the way the massive battle at the start of Saving Private Ryan set the tone for that movie. *Those TF battleships are powerful vessels, and I am now dying to see the new Republic warships engage them in head to head warfare. *I had wondered why at the end of AOTC the Republic warships did not engage the TF ships Dooku flew past, but at least the ground battle was entertaining enough as it was.

During that space battle we should be introduced to the X-Wings and Y-Wings in combat against TF Droid fighters, and we should see Obi-Wan and Anakin and several other Jedi flying Jedi star fighters into battle. *We've seen Anakin pilot a pod racer, Naboo fighter, and air speeder, but we have yet to see him engaging in star fighter dogfights to rank him as the "best starfighter pilot in the galaxy".

I don't intend this thread to fabricate a plot for the next film, but I want to know how many hope to see a space battle like I described, and if not, what do you wish to see? *But if the opening space battle concept gives anyone an idea of how it could lead into the expected plot, go ahead and describe it.

[jedijake]

Tovor,
AOTC ROCKED! It may have been my favorite of all. It sure showed the essence of the old battles we pondered about as old Obi-Wan talked to Luke about the Clone Wars back in ANH. The little deal with the Death Star verified some ideas I ALREADY had for Episode III.

I agree with the opening scroll. I made one, in fact. Here it goes:

It is a time of galactic crisis. Fear over the use of clone armies has put the security of the Republic in jeapardy.

To suppress the threat of revolt, Chancellor Palpatine has declared martial law, despite opposition from SENATOR AMIDALA and the JEDI COUNCIL.

As terror sweeps the galaxy, Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi have led several hundred clone assault ships to the planet of Rondonia, where Count Dooku has begun work on a weapon that could endanger the decaying Republic...
(Rondonia-an Amazon state/tribe in Brazil; Rondonia is a tropical rainforest planet)

Pan down to the planet of Rondonia, we see HUNDREDS of clone assault ships-early Star Destroyers; and Anakin & Obi-Wan's ships.

The attack begins and a laser is fired from the planet's surface during the battle. Many of the clone ships are destroyed and OBi-Wan has to retreat. However, Anakin becomes victorious and destroys the gun. Dooku has to come up with a better plan and Anakin is a hero. He is decorated by Palpatine, who makes him the general of the entire clone army. BUT, the final conflict has only just begun.

[Rogue_Jedi]

I agree. Episode III should begin with a massive space battle. We are long overdue for one.

I personally would enjoy watching a mature Anakin Skywalker in action behind the controls of a Jedi starfighter.

Or perhaps, an X-wing fighter maybe? It would be seriously wicked if his call sign was Red 5.

[Senator Theant]

Oh man, the very thought sends chills down my back. But I think Lucas has been itching for a massive space battle ever since he conceived of the tiny skirmish above Naboo in TPM. Every thing has been leading to it, and Anakin's skills as a pilot must be emphasized THROUGHOUT the movie.

Small note . . . Im not so sure as to the usage of X-wings and Y-wings. I know that the makers of the X-Wing fighter class are not subsidiaries of the Seinar Fleet group, which made all of the Empire's TIE fighters in the OT. Interesting to note that Palpatine employed Seinar Systems to design and construct Maul's Sith Infiltrator in TPM, so Palp has used the company even in pre-ANH days.

I believe that we may see numerous Jedi Starfighters in action, fighting side by side with early designs of the economy-class TIE fighters. Freaky thought huh? But I simply cant wait to see the pre-Star Destoyer "Star Destroyers" in action. What does Lucas call em anyway? Wont it be weird to witness the action from the bridge of the ship, where Imperial officers in OT attire grace the platform? Better yet, have Obi Wan occupy the same postion as Vader in the OT episodes [with less authority, or simply acting as an observor] because he doesnt like flying very much or rather, he simply doesnt like being shot at [who does?].

PS: Jedijake, awesome opening scroll, I tried to think of one myself yet everything is said in yours and quite simple. Short and sweet.

[looceefir]

I love Tovor's idea, a space battle is the only way they can open it, Anakin needs to be given a final swansong and what better way that the way you described?

I share Theant's uncertainty over X-wings. I remember reading on a website somwhere that the X/Y Wings were designed for the Rebellion, and were superior to TIE Fighters. If they are superior and the Republic/Palpatine did have them, why would they not be using them in IV-VI? So i don't expect to see them, unless it's a dangerous prototype (i think the Empire had plans to them but the Rebellion got them back)

[Darth Whaler]

Great post Tovor! Cool opening scroll jedijake.

I agree with an opening space battle in Episode III, especially to show Anakin's pilot skills. This is a necessity considering Ben's comments in ANH.

Do you think the battle could be the last of the Clone Wars? Someone mentioned that Episode III takes place 2-3 years after Episode II. How long do the Clone Wars last? I'm thinking that it MIGHT be possible that this opening battle will signify the end of the Clone Wars somehow and the rest of the movie will focus on Anakin's fall to the Dark Side. Is this a possibility or is the backdrop of the Clone Wars needed for the plot of the movie?

[looceefir]

I think it could definitely be the last, Palpatine will probably engineer the end of the war to suit him, so it could happen anytime. And Anakin is glorified in its end and yea the rest will be the dark side fall

[Clone02]

Great topic!1 Tovor I hope your right, it would be great to see what would be the Greatest-Dog-Fight-In-Space-Of-All-Time!! The CGI in this day will create an intense dramatization of star fighting. I checked a website that had a detailed timeline of the Star Wars Universe, and I believe the Clone Wars end before Ep.III, but GL has last say in all the story-telling, so if he wants to throw in the conclusion of the Clone Wars at the begining of the movie, SO BE IT!!

[Jedi Luke]

I agree, I think it has to start with a big space battle, with Anakin leading the way. I'm also interested to see how Palpatine is going to play this whole war. We know he is effectively playing both sides, so it's going to be intriguing how it all ends up.

[Handothrawn]

Originally posted by Tovor@May 20 2002 - 23:52
During that space battle we should be introduced to the X-Wings and Y-Wings in combat against TF Droid fighters,
I think that the Republic would be using the TIE Fighterish thing because TIE's don't use sheilds and are fairly simple fighters, and the Republic has practicly an endless supply of warriors so their ships don't need to be made for safety and the preservation of the pilot. But the Y-Wings. X-wings, (Rebel fighters), have sheilds and are made with them because the Alliance has very few pilots, as with the Seperatists, so I think the Seperatists should be using something like Z-95 Headhunters(direct predessesors of X-Wings) or something like that.

[DarthAl]

I guess I'm going to be in the minority here but I don't think Ep. III shoud start with a big space battle.

How should it start? Well, that's a good question and it's one that I think George Lucas is going to have trouble answering.

Why? Well, it comes back to Episode IV A New Hope. Consider all that was said and revealed in that film. First, Anakin's daughter(Leia Organa) is now in her twenties and a member of the Imperial Senate. So, we can assume that at least twenty-plus years have passed since Ep. III. What happened during all that time?
Second, Obi-wan Kenobi tells Luke that he hasn't "gone by the name Obi -Wan since before you were born." If that's true (and why would he lie) then Obi-Wan Kenobi ceased to exist and General Ben Kenobi came to be before Padme had the twins. Which means he Obi-Wan has to become General Kenobi early on in Episode III.

However, this only raises the question: Why would a loyal Jedi like Kenobi change his name and become a General???

Third, Luke has no idea that the "Princess" he and the gang go to rescue on the Death Star is his sister. So Kenobi and Padme seperated them when? And does Vader/Anakin even know that the Lady he calls "Your Highness" at the beginning of Episode IV is actually his daughter?

And when does Anakin/Vader "Help the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights?"

My point is that GL is going to have a hell of a time trying to answer all these questions in a 2 and a-half hour movie. I think AOTC should have been Episode I giving Lucas 2 more films to complete the Saga and not create a gap by which logic can not pass.

What da Ya'll think??? Am I just nuts here or what.

I have faith in you George!!!

Good Luck George and if anybody can solve these problems, YOU CAN!!!!!!

[Martini]

Yea i totally agree. I think this movie is gonna either be really really long or its gonna miss some stuff. Would have been better if we could have two more episodes so we could see more of Vader. But think about this, after all the jedi are dead and yoda and obi-wan disappear......what else does vader have to do? NOTHING! so its ok that we can have a lapse of 20 or so years between epsidose III and IV.

also, do you think that GL could suprise us and release two chapters to Episode III? like chapter one could be about from the space battle till anakins fall in the pit which would be about a 2 hour movie. Then the following may release chapter 2 which would show him as Darth Vader and how he hunted down all the Jedis (which would be another 2 hour movie).

I know Lucas said he wanted a 12 hour saga, but to be 12 hours then EPISODE III will have to be around 1.5 hours cause the other 5 films were longer then 2 hours. So just maybe we could get 2 more Star War films

[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I don't think we should see the final space battle until the Empire is formed. Maybe Naboo and Alderaan are the ones who start the Rebellion, and when they oppose the Empire, we can see a massive battle between Naboo and the Empire--Naboo Starfighters and TIE fighters.

[Darth Enkidu]

You all have a lot of great ideas. I personally am leaning towards Anakin flying in a predececer of the TIE fighter. I think in the original battle he will definately show his abilities, and probably will show his defiance to orders... ie he will disobey an order to retreat and save the day or something. He will then be reinforced by Palpy who will decorate him as a hero (slap in the face to the Jedi he was under... beginning of the disassociation between Palp and the Jedi...)

As for x and y wings being seen, I doubt that they will be seeing a whole lot of action. I definately don't think that they will be used by the trade federation or any of their allies. They will probably still be using droid ships, they also have little concern for individual soldier's lives. The rebellion will switch to the better equipped x and y wings out of necessity (being horribly out numbered) not because they where hand-me-downs from the trade fed.
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[Jedi Master Gandalf]

I think a large battle will take place in the beginning, and part of it will be a space battle. But it will only be a small confrontation between the Republic's new starfighters--the TIEs, and the Separatists. But like I said, the huge space battle will take place AFTER the formation of the Empire.

[Tovor]

This thread needed to be bumped back to the top. It's too good to be overlooked. So there. :happy:

[JediBendu]

ya - there has to be a space battle to establish Anakin as the best star pilot in the galaxy. I'm thinking it'll be the decisive battle that ends the Clone War - so maybe not at the very start, but at least 20min in.

although it would be cool to scroll up after the opening creds and see a huge battle raging.

[Tovor]

although it would be cool to scroll up after the opening creds and see a huge battle raging.
That's how I see it. I'd like III to open with the space battle I described above, and on the ground like the opening battle of Saving Private Ryan.

[LordTyranus]

I definitly see a massive space battle in the beginning, and maybe another in the end. I like the idea of right after the plot crawl it pans up to reveal a massive battle.

[JediBendu]

A limiting factor would be the PG rating - exploding space ships are one thing, but a Saving Private Ryan battle (yeah baby! ) would be too much. *Gungans and droids are one thing, they don't invoke as much of an empathic reaction with the audience. *But having humans being slaughtered would scare off the kiddies *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by DarthAl@June 11 2002 - 14:17
My point is that GL is going to have a hell of a time trying to answer all these questions in a 2 and a-half hour movie. I think AOTC should have been Episode I giving Lucas 2 more films to complete the Saga and not create a gap by which logic can not pass.
The plot points you've mentioned would be dealt with throughout the movie and have nothing to do with whether a space battle is shown at the beginning or not. A space battle wouldn't be meaningless, as it would likely mark the end of the Clone War and leave the Republic wide open for Palpatine to make his final moves. As many have stated, it would firmly establish Anakin's piloting skills, and support Kenobi's words in ANH of Anakin being a pilot during the war. Also, I think it would be great if a ground battle was occuring at the same time, in which Kenobi would be seen as a General. Again, that would fit well with what we've heard in ANH.

In my opinion, Lucas will have plenty of time in epIII to deal with everything. I don't think it's as much of an issue as most seem to.

[Qui-gon Maul]

Hey, I think after the opening 3-paragraph introduction rolls up and out of the screen to begin Episode 3 we'll see those clone war star-destroyers with Obi-wan on board one of them as a general. Along with Obi-wan, Anakin could be flying a small fighter. They could be heading to destroy some kind of droid army stronghold.

Either that scenario or it could begin with a shot of droid ships flying towards this droid army stronghold and then have a shot with Count Dooku on board talking to Sidious or something.

.....I think the last clone war battle will break out if either of these things happen to open the film. It will be big and involve tons and tons of ships (much like the space battle in ROTJ). Anakin will destroy both the droid army stronghold and Count Dooku and become a hero and the most powerful fighter pilot in the galaxy, and then the movie continues there.
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.....now, I'm fairly new to this site and i'm wondering how the hell you get those funky star wars images at the side of your replies. I'm an idiot, help me out!

[Tovor]

we'll see those clone war star-destroyers with Obi-wan on board one of them as a general. Along with Obi-wan, *Anakin could be flying a small fighter. They could be heading to destroy some kind of droid army stronghold.

Obi-Wan as general leading a small fleet of Republic Assault ships to destroy a droid army stronghold. *I like that concept a lot. *What about this: We know that Obi-Wan served as general under Bail Organa (Leia: "General Kenobi, years ago you served my father during the Clone Wars..."). *Maybe the Clone Wars takes a turn toward Alderaan when the Separatists seek to conquer the peaceful world, and General Kenobi leads the Republic fleet to defend that world from Dooku. *Anybody like that idea, that the Clone Wars could end with the attempted conquest and then the protection of Alderaan?

[maddog62]

An opening scroll and some music.

[Senator Theant]

Hey Tovor! Were on the same page man!

On Aug 2, I wrote a few lines for the beginning of EP III in the thread's version of a script.

OPENING SCENE: The peaceful planet Alderaan is in view. A Star Destroyer approaches the planet. A small Jedi fighter is dispatched from the bottom of the ship, escorted by prototype TIE fighters. Anakin Skywalker is piloting. His small viewscreen on board is activated. On the viewscreen, the image of JEDI MASTER YODA materializes.


YODA
Clear our objective is. Prevent an attack on the peaceful people of Alderaan we must. Confer with King Organa for actions to take.

ANAKIN
Yes, master. I am approching the palace now.

EXT The Capital City of Alderann
The level of security is clearly on heightened alert. Stormtroopers are seen patrolling the palace grounds and early ATSTs stand guard. Anakin approaches the palace and Organa comes out to greet him, compleltely rabid.

BAIL ORGANA
Anakin, you promised me that there would be a minimal presence of these troops . . . theyre everywhere! Youd think this system was in a state of martial law!

ANAKIN
Well we're in a state of CIVIL WAR . . . and the Chancellor has decided to increase security on ALL systems, not just yours. Besides, the troops will be gone once we have the clearance to proceed with our attack on the separtists not far from here . . .

BAIL ORGANA in complete shock
You used my planet for a military base!! This is a stark intrusion on our sovereignty and I will not stand for it! You will remove your troops immediately before I--

ANAKIN reassuringly
Bail, relax. It was the Chancellor's idea. YOu have my word, we will leave once I receive word from Coruscant. After that, our troops will be gone and this war will be drawn to an end, I promise.

BAIL ORGANA
A little confident, are we? What makes you think Dooku will be defeated now after all the times you failed to catch him before?

ANAKIN
Things are different now.
Anakin walks slowly away, leaving Bail to ponder his last statement


Although Anakin is on ALderaan and not Obi Wan, I figrued that a little later in the film Obi Wan will be drawn to the planet because the unfolding crisis over Anakin's insubordination to the Jedi Council. Increasingly, Anakin will take commands directly from Palpatine and his "Joint Chiefs of Staff", including the infamous Admiral Tarkin.

The plot is leading, rather quickly, to the imminent space battle that will end the Clone Wars. I figured that a little dialogue before the lasers bolts fly wouldnt hurt. But staying true to Jedijake's opening scroll (which I liked alot), a battle is promised within the first minutes of the film. Thats my take, anyhow. Alderaan will be an enormous role in the film.

[maddog62]

Not a bad idea. But I think I woud like to see a final attack that crushes the seperatist at the throat.

[Tovor]

Wow, Theant, I seriously like that. *Somehow, in your exchange between Anakin and Bail, I can sense you leading to why Vader did not object to Tarkin's destruction of Alderaan.

But one thing I wonder about. *Before TPM came out it was obvious to the die hard fans scouring the spoilers that the TF droid fighters were the prototypes of the TIE fighters (I got that sense the very second I saw the fighters streak past Anakin's canopy in the first TPM trailer that hit the screens), so how do you propose the Republic is using early version TIE's when at war with the TF-armed Separatists?

[Senator Theant]

yeeeaaa thats a good question.

I suppose my inclusion of the prototype TIE fighters was purely used to bridge a gap between the PT and the OT. We very well may not see TIE Fighters at all.

If I were to propose something, I would say that the same Commercial Guilds that helped arm the Separatists, are also being contracted by the Republic to produce war materiel. Thats how they make money, creating a war and being paid for it.

Lucas may have a different explanation. I knew the maker of the Empire's TIE fighter fleet to be Seinar Fleet systems (also the maker of Maul's SIth Infiltrator). The maker of the TF's droid starships is called Xi Char Cathedral factories. So either (1) the latter is the contractor of the former (or vice versa), or (2) they are entirely separate.


(1) is similar to my above proposal.
(2) is different but needs little explanation.


I think Ill keep the TIE fighters in the script (that me and moonsofbogden are working on) because I cant see another other starship design fighting the war for the New Order. Any ideas would help! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[JediBendu]

I just want to see a space battle that eclipses anything that's gone before.
After the opening lead in, scroll down to Anakin being persued by 4 or 5 droid ships. He pulls off some impossible maneuvre and wastes' the lot. Then heads back to where the real battle is and starts obliterating everything in his path.
:devil:

he could even kill a few good guys to start the 'I am going to be Vader' theme early.

[Rinc]

I like Tovor's idea. I think Obi-Wan is the type to be a clever and successful general and liberating Alderaan or defending it would fit in brilliantly with Leia's hologram lines in ANH.

[Handothrawn]

I think the opening space battle, if it happens, should have TF Droid Fighters, Z-95's, and Y-wings facing off against Rewpublic TIEs. There should be a large fleet on behalf of the Seperatists, and the Republic. Sort of like the battle of ROTJ, only with the SDs being the good guys.

[Kitrak Posthumus]

George Lucas stated that Episode III would start off during the final phase of THE CLONE WARS therfore I feel the beginnning of EPIII is going to be an etablishing battle in Space.... Republic Cruisers against Federation Scum ONE LAST FIGHT (REMEMBER 3 Years HAVE passed) The
Introduction of the Tie fighter is possible but i really doubt X WINGs being intro-ed...anyway This is what i sense will happen..........


Anakin Skywalker piloting his (SPACECRAFT) shooting down stuff havin a blast being heroic (HUBRIS) Obi Wan constant y tell him to be careful...... OBI WOAN NOW A GENERAL he is on a Destroyer....(OBI WAN HAS PICKED UP ALLOT OF KNOWLEDGE of Warfare... it seems so If you think back to A NEW HOPE)

THe entire republic fleet overlooming a planet....MASSIVE battle (think ESB X 10 in space)

Anakin is disobeying protocal and going against Kenobi's commands Nevertheless the Republic is Successful and destroy the Federation and mass celebration crosses over the flet of star destroyers

BUT..... A call comes over the Republic Signal !!!!!

CORUSCANT IS UNDER INVASION !!!!

A stunning Moment... the Heart of the Republic the JEDI TEMPLE THE SENATE THE POPULATION OF CIVILIANS !!!

All hell breaks loose as the weak and tired Republic fleet tries and breaks for the Capital Planet

ANAKIN IN A FLURRY OF EMOTIONS... Sensing PAIN AND SUFFERING ! PADME !!!! is she okay? He disobeys orders and pulls a renegade rebel "IM GOING NOW" thing and zooms for coruscant Obi wan helpless in controlling him....

Anakin sees the Destruction inflicted.... THE HUNT FOR DOOKU BEGINS!!! ---

This set up would make it viable to see Anakins hatred come out

The Jedi Temple being Ransacked and maybe destroyed splitting up most jedi and killing the other 1000 of them ?

We know he doesnt like dooku...Established in EPII HANGAR SCENE

Padme is going to Pregant maybe he findd her Hurt sumwhere on the planet

Obi tries to stop Anakins fury of hunting and killing Dooku

MANY THINGS CAN HAPPEN.........we'll just have to see

[Darth Vegas]

Don't forget this one Jedi Bendu!!!!

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[JediBendu]

actually, this thread is interesting in that it was started 5 days after atoc came out - before anyone knew the clone wars would end at the begining of the film.

[Jacen Solo]

Y'all have really good ideas!! I agree about Alderaan ... I think it will play quite a major role in Episode III. I remember seeing ANH and thinking, I wish that Alderaan was featured a little more.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by JediBendu@Oct 3 2002, 04:21 PM
actually, this thread is interesting in that it was started 5 days after atoc came out - before anyone knew the clone wars would end at the begining of the film.
Yeah that is wierd Jedi Bendu.

All hail the great prophet Tovor!!!! For he is wise and knowledgeable, and apparantly guessed that the Clone Wars will end at the beginning of episode 3.

Does he get a prize?

[Tovor]

JB:
actually, this thread is interesting in that it was started 5 days after atoc came out - before anyone knew the clone wars would end at the begining of the film.
Hey, how about that? I must be channeled into the way of how things should be that proects prophetic visions of what is yet to come. Perhaps my midichlorians are more numerous in my blood than most?

[Tovor]

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[echoseven]

I think we can almost count on the opening to this movie having a space battle giving Anakin a chance to showcase his flying skills. Ben will also be shown as a general.

[Tovor]

I've heard rumors of how the new episode is going to begin, but that's all I will say, and all that I want to know. No more spoilers for this boy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[bulla]

I think that the movie should start with darth vader in his TIE chasing a lone jedi through an asteroid field to his death. The scroll can take care of what has happened to anakin, and then we get to see a couple of hours of ruthless jedi-slaying. The movie everyone really wants to see.

[darthsparky]

this is a great thread with lots of good ideas...

where Imperial officers in OT attire grace the platform? Better yet, have Obi Wan occupy the same postion as Vader in the OT episodes

OT rebels flying early ties and on the bridges of early star destroyers. that would be very cool.

as GL said (i believe) the Empire is the Republic.

[Darth Darthy]

I think a couple of early X-Wings won't be out of the question... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[bulla]

don't hold your breath.....

[kngalaric]

I would like to see the movie begin with Obi-Wan casting Hayden Christensen into the flaming pit, so that Darth Vader (the real Anakin voiced by James Earl Jones) can come into the movie and actually make a good prequel, instead of the hollow (albeit gorgeous)movies we've seen so far. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

Maybe before the scroll, Lucas could have a public service announcement where he apologizes up front for midichlorians, Jar Jar Binks, playful Anakin from Episode I, wooden, harelipped brooding Anakin from Episode II, and admit that Greedo did not fire first! He would also admit that Queens are not elected, among other things.

That is how I would like the movie to begin.

Also I agree with Bulla!

[Gazelle]

I think this is the thread we have all been waiting for in this "middle period" of waiting for Episode III.

Here's where the fun begins....

[kerouac777]

The movie everyone really wants to see.

I'm always a little amazed that's what everyone seems to want - just to see Vader cleaning up on some hapless Jedi.

Granted, I want to see Vader whomping ass in his black suit, too, but I'm more interested in seeing this part of Annie's fall, before I see any of the Vader fighting. It means so much more and has so much more depth this way.

Anywho..

I'd like to see the movie begin by explaining that Hayden has been replaced by me as Annie/Darth, because I'm just cooler than he is. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[kngalaric]

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't mind a scroll that says due to disturbances in the force, Anakin looks like a different person (and has been replaced with someone who can actually talk without a speech impediment and maybe even act.)

Acting would be nice - you've got my vote for being the next Anakin, Kerouac.

Anything would be better than the clown already installed.

[Soontir Solo]

Knowing Lucas it will start really slowly, and the action won't pick up till the end of the movie. He'll screw up this part, even though he knows most people want a huge opening battle.

[Darth LeeHaas]

Why? Well, it comes back to Episode IV A New Hope. Consider all that was said and revealed in that film. First, Anakin's daughter(Leia Organa) is now in her twenties and a member of the Imperial Senate. So, we can assume that at least twenty-plus years have passed since Ep. III. What happened during all that time?

Why is that? Why try to cram 20 years into a 2 hour movie? It is going to cover Palpatine finishing his advance to becoming Emporer, and the main point, the final transformation of Skywalker into Vader. There is 20 years or so for small detail.

Second, Obi-wan Kenobi tells Luke that he hasn't "gone by the name Obi -Wan since before you were born." If that's true (and why would he lie) then Obi-Wan Kenobi ceased to exist and General Ben Kenobi came to be before Padme had the twins. Which means he Obi-Wan has to become General Kenobi early on in Episode III.


He might have been called Ben just to go into hiding. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

And does Vader/Anakin even know that the Lady he calls "Your Highness" at the beginning of Episode IV is actually his daughter

Obviously not.

And when does Anakin/Vader "Help the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights?
We have 20 years for that. This is just the begining of the Empire.

What da Ya'll think??? Am I just nuts here or what.

Your not nuts. Your a star wars fan the same as everybody. We all want more.

Ive read all the same spoilers as everybody else. A good space battle to start sounds awsome. We havent had it since 83 with the battle of Endor. It should be fast with lots of blasting.

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by Darth LeeHaas@Mar 17 2004, 10:17 PM
Ive read all the same spoilers as everybody else. A good space battle to start sounds awsome. We havent had it since 83 with the battle of Endor. It should be fast with lots of blasting.
indeed
but I'd like a space battle and a ground battle combined

...but that's just me style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[bulla]

ok

[Dutch]

"two hours of ruthless jedi-slaying"


you're kidding right? What the hell kind of movie would that be?

[Tovor]

I gotta bump this up just to pat myself on the back that I wrote that the same week that AOTC came out. I foresaw what was to come. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

It's ironic, soon after seeing TPM, I announced on the boards that I'd love to see an air chase through the skies of Coruscant in the next film. And lo and behold, there was.
Then on May 20, 2002, I announced that I'd love to see a massive Coruscant space battle at the start of the next film. And lo and behold, there is.

And even more ironic, that in the weeks leading up to the premier of the 1st TPM trailer, I said online that the trailer should show Luke standing in front of the sunset in ANH, and then saying he wanted to be a Jedi like his father, and have Obi-Wan talking about the days of the Jedi, and then show the young Anakin....and that was pretty much how this new trailer started out. I think that ol' George has my computer bugged for ideas, or something. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif