The Star Wars Holiday Special

[Brian]

I haven't seen the Star Wars Holiday Special (from the 1978?), but from what I hear, it sucked. *Even GL admits it. *What was it about and why does everyone think it sucks?

I did see Ewok Adventure and it sucked. *I hear the Battle for Endor is good, but after watching the 1st one, I just don't think I can make it through the whole thing.

Sorry for the old topic stuff, but again, I am trying to get caught up from years of not having anyone to talk to about the greatest Galaxy Far, Far Away....

[RollaFett]

I have always wondered about this mysterious Christamas Special as well, especially since it contains the first ever appearence of one of our favorites...Boba Fett. I believe that it was on TV in the late 70's (between ANH and ESB), and it was supposed to be pretty damn awful. Beyond that, I know nothing, having never seen it.

[tunafishman]

The only things I know about it is that it involved Chewbacca's family or something like that and saving Christmas. And then gossip stuff, like that Carrie Fisher was doing a lot of cocaine off screen during it and it shows in the parts where she appears as Princess Leia. That's all I know though, and its complete second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. hand info. I've never actually seen it.

[Nathan Butler]

I have it. It's the "Star Wars Holiday Special," actually, not "Christmas" Special, and the reviews you've heard are right.

It's horrible. The Boba encounter leaves MUCH to be desired, and really goes against his character as it was later established. They somehow have a Y-wing with an ejecting cockpit that becomes, well, a little boat basically . . .

Not to mention Bea Arthur as a Cantina owner, Chewie's poorly created family, and ::gulp:: Leia singing a Life Day song at the end.

Yeesh.

And, of course, it was on pre-cable TV, so finding a decent copy is hard. Mine's only mediocre.

[echoseven]

I have it too. I down loaded it. It's ok. Nothing to brag about. Boba Fett acts like he is a friend to Luke only to lure him closer to Vader.

[YODAgreatest]

What's the behind the scenes story on the holiday special? Why George, why? Does anyone know where I can get a VHS copy of this thing?

[Brian]

Thanks for the help. I suppose I will d/l it one of these days to see what it is all about.

[JediBendu]

GL didn't have a tight control of the reins after star wars came out - afterall, he had just made $300million. *The public, in america, was screaming for Star Wars, anything starwars. *Variety shows were the thing of the seventies so they made one. *After that, nothing got through GL's grip.
The Boba cartoon is pumped! some really funky french animation
Carrie Fisher is coked off here eyeballs, seeing luuvvv baby in everthing. *Which is just as well, cause she can't sing for sh*t !!
Harrison just really didn't want to be there, and Mark, well, you get to see what he may have looked like in Empire before the car crash.
I love it! *It really does make or break a Star Wars fan. *I gave a copy to a couple who said they were 'right in to SW', half way through they turned it off and promptly forgot that SW even existed.
Anyway, it's not as bad as the Donny and Marie Osborne Star Wars Variety Hour! *Kris Kristoffesen as Han - gotta luv the 70's!!!! *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I don't know where you can get it in the US but in Aust. there's one shop I know that stocks it -
www.fanattic.com.au
the site's cr@p but that's where I got my copy

[Blizzard]

The Holiday Special is from 1978.

I couldn't get through the Itchy, the grandpa Wookiee's sexual fantasy involving Dianne Carroll, I had to fast forward.

My son felt so sorry for me when he watched the commercials during the Holiday Special... he said, "You actually had to play with those?! Their knees don't even bend!"

You can get it on VHS at any sci-fi or similar convention. All video dealers have bootleg copies for sale.

Even though Hamill and Ford are wearing thick eye-liner it's still a must see, just so you can agree with the majority that it sucks.

[wagnike2]

i heard it sucks really bad but yet I still want to see it really bad too... I don't know it's just one of those star wars things that you have to see

[Brian]

I downloaded a good copy of the 9 minute cartoon with Boba Fett. That wasn't too bad (the animation could have been better, but it was 1978). I still haven't been able to download the Holiday special.

[AlanRJ]

I have to admit that I downloaded a very poor copy of it a long time ago. I still haven't watched it and I am a really big Star Wars fan. For ages it was always something from Star Wars which I had heard about so much yet never seen it nor could I find a purchaseable copy. So I downloaded it and started to watch it with Chewie's family. It is DIRE, I was just sooooo bored that I couldn't even stomach to watch anymore of it. I will persever one day and watch it but it feels like torture having to watch it all. But, I know I must be strong.

[Blizzard]

May the Force be with you, Alan. ;)

[JediBendu]

you guys are frogetting the fact that it was the 70's - Variety Shows were the eqivalent of Real TV in the 90's. *Who in their right mind would ever like ANY variety show is beyond me, but when you put it context, it's soooo funny.

to Bliz
using your signature - It's only seems atrocious the first time. *After 7 or 8 viewings it becomes amazing. *How it ever got through GL's fingers I'll never know *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Blizzard]

LOL Bendu! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bigsmile.gif

[wook]

> i heard it sucks really bad but yet I still want to see
> it really bad too... I don't know it's just one of those
> star wars things that you have to see

Yep.... just like the prequels :^)

[darthfool]

I've got a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a taped from the worst TV transmission version ever.
Curiously the picture quality isn't the worst thing about it.
The holiday special really is terrible - worse than the ewok films.

[darthfool]

The holiday special I found extremely painful to watch and I couldn't stomach it in one sitting. No wonder Lucas want's to pretend it doesn't exist.

And Blizzard your kid doesn't know what he's missing. Inarticulate, highly undetailed figures have a cool that modern toys don't understand and could never have (awkwardly adjusted *Jedi quote intended).
Confiscate those pretenders to the throne (avoid prequel analogies please wook) and laugh manically as he's left to suffer the way we did... er I mean enjoy the retro coolness of it all. Gwa ha ha!

[Brian]

Originally posted by AlanRJ@June 23 2002 - 05:22
It is DIRE, I was just sooooo bored that I couldn't even stomach to watch anymore of it. *I will persever one day and watch it but it feels like torture having to watch it all. *But, I know I must be strong.
I felt the same way about the Ewok movies. I rented them right before AOTC was released just because I couldn't get enough SW. Huge mistake. I never finished watching Ewok Adventure and Battle for Endor didn't even hit my VCR. I just wasted money. So boring, style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif! I may try to watch them again one day, but they are garbage. I just want to try to watch the Holiday Special so that I can see for my self how terrible it is.

[Nathan Butler]

Actually, BFE is far better than CoC. You might want to try that one and store CoC away for the next time you're locked in a dark room with only that tape, a TV/VCR unit, and several hungry rats.

[Pepper]

Trust me you all who haven't seen the "Holiday Special", the one's who've seen it are right: it's atrocious!!! *I have a decent copy of it and have endured it three times mostly, and twice all the way the through.

If you're a hard-core SW fan and still insist on watching it, do yourself the favor of watching it alone. *Otherwise you'll be very embarrassed by it. *The only two good things about it are the Boba Fett cartoon, and the Jefferson Airplane video. *Yep, it's saturated with Seventies-ness. *The rest of it is torture if you actually make yourself endure it. *(Not recommended for the weak-minded.) *If "Saving Private Ryan" made you squeamish, this will make you puke.

PS-guess what I found on DVD today?? *"Hardware Wars"! * Haven't bought it yet, but hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to go back where I found it and add it to my collection. *I have it one tape but of course just have to have the DVD. (This one's a FUN must-see for the hard-core fan!)

[Polunis]

I will take your advice and never see it to begin with. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Lonesabre]

A good place to get a copy of the Holiday Special is on E-Bay, they'll usually have it.

What about the Ewok movies??? I used to love them when I was a kid but I havent seen them for ages, might go and purchase them now....

Caravan of Courage, first appearance in the Starwars universe by a character called Mace I believe! - not windu mind you!!! *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[Nathan Butler]

Pepper: Yep, HW came out on DVD a few weeks ago, for its first run. Well, at least non-direct run. It was put out on DVD for direct order a few months ago, I think. Other parodies on DVD now are limited to Thumb Wars, George Lucas in Love, and not many others.

Lone: Yep, the first appearance of a Mace, albeit Mace Towani. You can still find them for sale in a lot of places. I picked up copies about five years ago. What's even better, though, is that a recent Ask the Jedi Council question suggested that after the trilogies are released on DVD . . . the Ewok films and the two cartoon series will be on DVD as well.

[Lonesabre]

Thats cool but so does that mean that I have to wait until 2005 at the earliest to get hold of them? Going with the rumour that the OT will be on DVD after the release of episode 3?

Surely it would make better marketing sense to releses them in the run up to Ep3, the Ewok films that is?

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

:mad:

[Brian]

Just moving this topic to the EU forum since we are now including television programs. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Exar D'an]

The televiaion special sucked! I can't believe thay even made it.

[Gazelle]

I was so EXCITED to find a version of the Star Wars Holiday Special today and promptly hit download. I have heard so much about this rare piece of star wars memorabilia ands got myself ready for 90 mins of ecstatic entertainment.

My my my. It's dreadful. Who wrote this awful drivel? Why did they do this? I guess it is interesting historically, but as for entertaining.....

Don't tell me that some fans think that this is canonical!!!

Ok, enough said. Sorry about this, just had to vent my spleen.

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com

Coming soon...

[Gazelle]

No Bone, ole boy - that is a betrayal of all that is right!

I have just watced the end bit with all those unbelievable pithy lines and Leia is singing! Heavens to Betsy!

Just seen on a website that Lucas wanted to hunt down this video and destroy it. Well, that makes me feel a bit better about him.

Bring back "Caravan of Courage"...

[bodhisattva yoda]

the only thing i've seen from the special is the boba fett cartoon, which really wasn't so bad. i actually liked the animation style.

[Luvinna.]

I've never seen the Holiday Special. Where'd you find it, Gazelle?

[Gazelle]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Sep 8 2003, 08:27 PM
I've never seen the Holiday Special. Where'd you find it, Gazelle?
I downloaded it from http://www.blueharvest.net/

Believe me, don't!

[bodhisattva yoda]

i started to watch it but couldn't maintain my concentration. why does chewbacca's family look like a bunch of demon yetis?

[Anguirus111]

I bought a bootleg version at a Godzilla Convention once. The quality was actually quite good and the commercials worth a laugh at. I really liked the box that came with it, it was actually well designed.

[Luvinna.]

Yeah, those old commercials from the 70's and 80's are always good for a laugh. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[bodhisattva yoda]

contemporary commercials are good for a puke.

[JediBendu]

The Holiday Special is AMAZING!!!

It's one of the best variety shows that came out of the 70s. For reference, just check out the Donnie and Mari Osbourne Star Wars Special.

The Boba Fett cartoon is soooo cool!

Carrie Fischer coked up to her eyeballs singing a wookiee song praising Life Day!

you can't get better quality TV! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

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[JediKeri.]

Why Do I sense a lot of sarcasam there?

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by JediBendu@Sep 14 2003, 07:19 PM
The Holiday Special is AMAZING!!!

It's one of the best variety shows that came out of the 70s. For reference, just check out the Donnie and Mari Osbourne Star Wars Special.

The Boba Fett cartoon is soooo cool!

Carrie Fischer coked up to her eyeballs singing a wookiee song praising Life Day!

you can't get better quality TV! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

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I agree.

It's a fantastic time capsule from the 70s.

They really don't make 'em like that anymore.

[Jedi D'oh]

I saw it when it first came on TV and hadn't seen it since. I bought a copy and Dragon-Con 01 and when I watched it I just laughed and wondered why I had been pining away to see it.

But I am glad I own it as it is rare and VERY hard to find.

[JediBendu]

plus the Boba Fett cartoon is amazing! Who would have thought a Y-Wing would have been so versatile. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com
is now open.

keep in mind some of the pages don't work yet but hey, it's up.

[Luvinna]

Cool, T! Despite the warnings, I downloaded it and watched it. I thought it was kinda cool. Lame in some places, but the Boba Fett cartoon was probably the best part. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Gazelle]

I must confess that I forwarded the cartoon....

[Gazelle]

Does bluemilk get her name from the Beru drink?

[SKot]

Yep, it's true... www.starwarsholidayspecial.com is live right now. Still working on it as we speak (or type, or whatever), and there will be some changes. Consider the current version to be "beta" for now. But we will definitely have it all up-to-speed before the 25-year Anniversary coming this November 17th!

"She did it all 'by Han'... 'Solo'!" -- aaaaaaargh!!

--SKot

[Sluggo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Yep, it's true... www.starwarsholidayspecial.com is live right now. Still working on it as we speak (or type, or whatever), and there will be some changes. Consider the current version to be "beta" for now. But we will definitely have it all up-to-speed before the 25-year Anniversary coming this November 17th![/b][/quote]

It looks great SKot! Any one have any plans for the 25th anniversary? I am going to watch the Boba Fett cartoon and when the part when Luke and Han are suspended upside-down, I am going to stand on my head like i did when I saw it when I was six. Maybe if I stay on my head, the rest of the Special will be more bearable. At least until I black out! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[bluemilk]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Does bluemilk get her name from the Beru drink? [/b][/quote]

of course I do!

[goodwije]

I loved the holiday special as a kid, but havent seen it since. Believe it or not i once saw it in a Rental Store ( a little local one) had to be a bootleg, but looked official, i should have stolen it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif but didnt, and of course no one i was with was interested in renting it. Maye i should go back there and see if its still for rent.

BTW all you big EU fans, isnt Chewies son is some of the books? I thought i read that somewhere, does he have the same name? Lumpy or whatever it was?

[Luvinna]

Yeah, Chewie's family has had a few cameos in the books. There was also a e-book written called A Forest Apart that I think had Lumpy as one of the main characters. Haven't read the book though... ???

[Justin]

Why the hell did they name Chewbacca's son "Lumpy"??

[goodwije]

At least Malla (Chewie's wife) got a half way normal name. I think all male Wookies names most be shortened to an adgative, its one of those SW rules.

They all end up sounding like the seven dwarves though, or smurfs. I actually perfer smurfs a little chewy.

[JediBendu]

I'd forgotten about the holonet dancers! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

isn't it a little weird for a kid to be watching bikini dancers style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Vibroblade]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>isn't it a little weird for a kid to be watching bikini dancers [/b][/quote]

Not here in white trash hell.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Justin@Oct 3 2003, 12:08 PM
Why the hell did they name Chewbacca's son "Lumpy"??
I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/joystick.gif

[Luvinna]

Lumpy is a nickname, just like Chewie is short for Chewbacca. Lumpawarrump is his full name.

Gah! They've redone the databank section at sw.com and now it's rather difficult to just go straight to what you're looking for. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Darth Darthy]

The Holiday Special is great. Who'd have thought Bea Arthur had such a soothing singing voice and that a bloke with a cup for a head could possibly fall for such a charmer? And Jefferson Starship had glowing dildos for microphones... or where they toxic twinkies?

[JediJaina]

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That was funny Darthy!

[Ewok Hater]

As long as we're on the subject of bad Star Wars Holiday Specials, take a look at this one. Is this some kind of a joke?

http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/v/very-st...-wars-xmas.html (http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/v/very-star-wars-xmas.html)

This can't possibly be real. If it is, GL has lost it. Recycling old ideas into his new films? Can anyone verify this?

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by Darth Darthy@Oct 11 2003, 11:37 PM
The Holiday Special is great. Who'd have thought Bea Arthur had such a soothing singing voice and that a bloke with a cup for a head could possibly fall for such a charmer?
that was the best scene! you got to see the aliens in sooo much more detail then in the original, and for a lot longer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> And Jefferson Starship had glowing dildos for microphones... or where they toxic twinkies?[/b][/quote]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Ewok Hater@Oct 11 2003, 11:12 PM
As long as we're on the subject of bad Star Wars Holiday Specials, take a look at this one. Is this some kind of a joke?

http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/v/very-st...-wars-xmas.html (http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/v/very-star-wars-xmas.html)

This can't possibly be real. If it is, GL has lost it. Recycling old ideas into his new films? Can anyone verify this?
Unfortunately that's just an April Fool's joke, look at the date it was posted. 4/1/2002. ???

[Darth Vegas]

Unfortunately? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

[bluemilk]

<span style="color:purple">Even though the Holiday Special site is brand spankin' new, SKot and I have updated it again and gave it a makeover style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

For all you crazies that actually somewhat kinda liked the Holiday Special go visit the new site ---------->HERE (http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/default.htm)<---------- go go go!</span>

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by TK-007@Oct 12 2003, 06:56 PM
Unfortunately? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif
Yeah, if it'd been made we could've ridiculed GL about it.

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by bluemilk@Oct 16 2003, 03:49 AM
For all you crazies that actually somewhat kinda liked the Holiday Special go visit the new site ---------->HERE (http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/default.htm)<---------- go go go![/color]
I find your lack of faith disturbing style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[T-bone]

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O...EMPLATE=DEFAULT (http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBIT_CARNEY?SITE=NJASB&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

[T-bone]

I personally think that the Holiday Special would be a great addition as a Shop.Starwars.com exclusive - something you could get on DVD ONLY at this online store since the demand would be 95% from fans alone. The title obviously wouldn't sell well in the retail outlets...outside of the mildly curious. Then again, it would make for a nice bonus feature on the OT DVDs style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Sluggo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>personally think that the Holiday Special would be a great addition as a Shop.Starwars.com exclusive - something you could get on DVD ONLY at this online store since the demand would be 95% from fans alone. The title obviously wouldn't sell well in the retail outlets...outside of the mildly curious. Then again, it would make for a nice bonus feature on the OT DVDs [/b][/quote]

I agree, although I think it has a snowballs chance. The Return of the Ewok would be cool as well. And perhaps a more likely possibility. Lucas doesn't hate the ROTE.

[JediBendu]

ya never know - GL may be mellowing as he gets older - he may appreciate it's retro quality style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[Mister X2]

possibly, but as we all know, he has said some pretty destructive things about it already. there will alwasy be bootlegs, i have a tape of it and iv watched it like 3 times and even if it was included on the OT DVD i prolly wouldnt watch it, it is a interesting thing, but i have seen enough of it as so i never need to see it again sept on holloweens (man that would scare me) but i must say SKot and T-Bone's reletively new site, www.starwarsholidayspecial.com has all the info you ever wanted or didnt want on the subject. i dont know how you gusy scrounged that all up, hats off.

[brookie]

DUDE THE SW SPECIAL IS SOOOO soooooo bad, not even the good bad! actually the cartoon was ok, and ill totally keep it for the life day song sung by the one carrie fisher. i bought it at a comic store in the city they make alll kinds of bootlegs on the dvd, i dont know, payed 25 bucks, way too much

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by brookie@Feb 28 2004, 09:28 PM
DUDE THE SW SPECIAL IS SOOOO soooooo bad, not even the good bad! actually the cartoon was ok, and ill totally keep it for the life day song sung by the one carrie fisher. i bought it at a comic store in the city they make alll kinds of bootlegs on the dvd, i dont know, payed 25 bucks, way too much
i guess it depends on your own point of view - i think spending $25 to watch a coked up Carrie Fisher sing the Life song is a real bargain style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

The copy I've got actually has the original 70's adds in it as well - which are just a cheesy as the Special itself style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[goodwije]

Guess i am strange because i love the campyness and oddity to the Holiday special. Not to mention Bea Arthur, Art Carney, and even Jefferson Starship... ok it isnt good, but i still love it.

[Sluggo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Guess i am strange because i love the campyness and oddity to the Holiday special. Not to mention Bea Arthur, Art Carney, and even Jefferson Starship... ok it isnt good, but i still love it. [/b][/quote]

The HS just rules! So does getting kicked in the jimmies. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif

Somehow, the charm and the camp of the special make it better with age. I can tolerate it more than when I first watched my boots some 5 or so years ago.

It is an aquired taste, to be sure. Someone mentioned on a different thread that more Star Wars is better Star Wars. I almost agree.

[Brian]

They should make the thing available on Hyperspace. Or at least the cartoon if they don't decide to put it on DVD.

[Justin]

Originally posted by T'bone@Feb 27 2004, 03:28 PM
I personally think that the Holiday Special would be a great addition as a Shop.Starwars.com exclusive - something you could get on DVD ONLY at this online store since the demand would be 95% from fans alone. The title obviously wouldn't sell well in the retail outlets...outside of the mildly curious. Then again, it would make for a nice bonus feature on the OT DVDs style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
I doubt it, because George Lucas once said that he would like to personally destroy every copy of it with a hammer.

[Ripley the Warmaster]

i was wondering, should I watch this nice piece of retroism?

[JediBendu]

^ it depends on your level of fandom coz is quite literally makes or breaks you as a fan style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/trooper.gif

I lent my copy to a couple who claimed to be fans - after about 15min they switched it off and announced they'd become trekkies style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[goodwije]

Well if your expactations are another ANH, or if you are expecting cinema greatness dont bother. But if you want to see 70's campy goodness, all swirled up in a Star Wars setting, it is a blast.

[Pada1]

I recieved a bootleg DVD last week of it from a friend, I thought it would be cheesy fun.....nothing could prepare me for the experience. I had to duct tape myself to the couch to avoid the sucking action coming out of the tv screen. Bea Arthur...the horror...the horror...(stumbles off twitching and muttering into the desert) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

[goodwije]

pffft.. Bea Arhtur is the shiznit and no one ever said the holiday special was good, it is however cheezy fun. The cartoon is cool, the scenes with Bea are fun, Jefferson Starship.. i mean how can you go wrong with Jefferson Starship. Itchy, Lumpy, Malla, and of course our favorite characters so drugged up they are hard to reconize.

[Longshot]

I just got seven and a half minutes into it and had to turn it off. Just watching those awfully designed wookies in a 1970's 'tree' house was too much for me to stomach Im afraid.

[BoHeDia]

okay guys hear me out, these are my thought on this stupidly produced "special"

Okay guys, i just first saw this last night around eleven oclock so i am gonna write a book here.

first of all, what the hell is up with the falcon cockpit, its like all bobble headish, they couldnt even get george to let them use the original set of the falcon so they had to go and crap together somethihng out of a cereal box,r idiculous

Next, Mark Hamill, i am disgusted that yyou would let them film you while you look like some ass of a pretty boy, i mean with hair like that you could be in a boy band or something, come on man, was the money really that good that you had to let them deface one of the most famous science fiction characters of all time, and yo turned his character into a whiney *pregnant dog*, oh artoo, you were supposed to be watching that, come on man be the tough farmboy i know you are.

.What did they do to one of my most favorite starwars species, did they kill the wookiees and record the sounds of their deaths, these wookiees all soundd like they were dying, lumpy the most of all. And what wookiee can any of you remeber that would just leet imperial storm troopers come into their house and search it, none to my knowledge, it should have taken at least thirty storm troops to pull that off if chewie were home, but they probaby didnt have enough money to cast that many extras cause they spent all the money on Mark hamills hair spray...on another note, what kind of *girl thingy* ass wookiee uses a cane to help him walk, and what is the deal with his one tooth?.?.?.

.And why throughout the whole show are there these little dancing poeple in colorful outfits, and singing too, geogre what were you thinking letting these morons film this, you must have been desperate and obviously didnt direct this, this makes the phantom menace look like a LOTR film, spectacular.

What was the purpose of malla and that cooking show with the black lady that had a wig and four arms,lets just stir and whip and stir stir right past this one.

the bar scene was okay up until they start the singing, the aliens looked okay, and i liked the guy with a mouth on his head and had six fingers on one hand, even though its no wonder why the lady bartender wasnt interested in him, i mean come on he had a mouth on top of his head and could count to eleven on his hands.and am i mistaken or is that bartender the lady from golden girls.

Itchy looks like a frikin star destroyer ran into his face full thrust, what the hell happened to him, did he go to see the emporor when he got bored...and im not gonna comment on the lifeday presents, and the computers they have look like toys i played with when i was like three, what the hell

leias acting was also a painful thing to watch, they must have not been paying her enough, once again cause they spoent it all on hamills hair

why in all nine corellian hells is there a rock band in starwars?.?.?

the cartoon was bad, i first thought so because boba was acting like a good guy, but then i had a nice little twist to it,m whoever drew these must have been high off some serious weed that day.

I was also a little disappointed that there were no lightsabers in the whole thing...even though if they had them they probably would look like a flashlight or something...so i'm actually glad that they kept them out, cause i could not have bared it if they made that look bad too.

the only GOOD thing was DARTH VADER, he sounded the same and kept his dominating menacing look and aura

ALL IN ALL, i never want to watch this again.it was a flying peice of *physical act of love*ing *sith spawn* and should meet the same fate as the sun crusher, throw into a *physical act of love*ing black hole...excuse my language, i am sorry if i offended any of you with it, but this was just that bad, and my useing this kind of language is really a compliment to the hoilday special, it doesnt even deserve these words.

[brookie]

i own this sweet piece of star wars embarassment, hmmmmmmm , the only way to enjoy this is get really drunk, or whatever, you prefer, fast forward through all of the wookie dialogue, trip out on the horrid dancing, laugh at how high carrie fisher is, and the awsomely bad song she sings.

and fast forward through the cantina scene.

PS- The boba fett cartoon kicked style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/censored.gif ass!

[cj790]

I thought it was truly great style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Whole minutes of non-subtitled Wookie dialogue, cringeworthy 'guest' spots, ridiculously bad songs ("goodbye friend"), Chewie looking like a gimp in a red robe, a pathetic 'story' of the stormtroopers who ruin Christmas, and Carrie Fisher's dire singing voice!
In many ways better than the PT style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[BoHeDia]

^NEVER!!!

[mazzy]

I am laughing just thinking about the Holiday Special. SO funny. It has to be one of the worst things I have ever seen. Like CJ says, ages with Wookies talking and no subtitles!! And Chewies Dad looked really scabby...

It was like some kind of wierd dream that you are not sure happened.

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[goodwije]

well now Mr. Saber.. no GL didn't direct it, as far as he is concerned it never happened. I am not sure where you get the idea that because Chewie is the strong, defensive character he is that all wookies should be like that. Especially an old guy and a mother with her young son in the line of fire...

i just realized i was defending the holiday special, it is bad, terrible, that is the whole point. It is something you own or watch (if you can) for nostalgia purposes and to laugh at. Stop taking things so seriously already.

[Darth Darthy]

Gotta love how Itchy gets his pervy thrills watching Diana Carol warbling in a VR Machine. Which was complete with cheesey 70's vasaline effect on the lens. Hmm, maybe that wasn't vasaline, Itchy might have missed the tissue the last time he used it.

[goodwije]

no you didn't...

oh yeah i forgot, yes the bartender was the lady on Golden Girls, her name is Bea Arthur.

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by Pepper@Jul 6 2002, 01:33 AM
If you're a hard-core SW fan and still insist on watching it, do yourself the favor of watching it alone. *Otherwise you'll be very embarrassed by it. *
BUMP!

[goodwije]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>do yourself the favor of watching it alone[/b][/quote]

oh no.. the only way it is remotly approachable is with a whole group to laugh at all the sillyness.

[Regrix]

Now, I for one SAW it the night it was on.. (Feeling VERY old)

Mercifily I don't remember much.. might be fun to see it again, if I can find where I can get it. Though it didn't cause me to turn my back on Star Wars, part of my heart and soul went into that universe when I was 6 and NEVER came back.

Though I do find the idea of Carrie singing to be a dubious proposition at best.

It's true that Star Wars as a television prospect has had a poor history, though I would love to see an anthology series like SW Tales become a TV show so long as it has the production values we have come to expect from the Movies. Also would need quality writers, it's easy to blame the actors but if the script is junk...

trash in.. trash out..

It would be interesting to see who they'd cast as established characters should they appear

[Tango]

I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago, my friend Wendy made me watch it. She was right it was bad, I had to turn it off. Seems everyone was bad acting too. Just goes to show you that bad film making and scrips can make good actors seem bad.

[RustyMuffler]

Narcotics didn't help matters any, either.

-- Rusty

[larker]

http://www.pussycatmagazine.com/archives/H...s/starwars.html (http://www.pussycatmagazine.com/archives/Holidays2002/features/starwars.html)

[Max Starkiller]

My fave parts aside from the cartoon were the whole "I hate fish" thing and the first 30 minutes. Not to mention a wookiee roar followed by "You said it."

[Sluggo]

Wah-hoo!! The Holiday Special thread is back!! I have watched the thing 4 times this year! Mostly to watch friends who are with me cringe. I get a little sadistic that way.

[goodwije]

come on.. Chewie in a red dress is a fantastic image... Wookie Drag style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/chortle.gif

[Tresk Im'nel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>come on.. Chewie in a red dress is a fantastic image... Wookie Drag[/b][/quote]

Are you serious? Why is it I get the awful feeling you are... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[cj790]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

What about Mark Hamill's excessive amount of make-up, too?
Are they trying to tell us something... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[goodwije]

serious?.. well not very serious. but Chewie in a red dress is hilarious

[Sluggo]

Too bad Malla wasn't wearing a little red dress...

[smudger9]

Has anyone got a currently active address i can download it from..... i really wanna see it.

[goodwije]

oh i think LFL would jump on that.. they really don't like the holiday special. There are a few fan sites out there. Just use a search engine and put in Star Wars Holiday Special. You get the jest of it, and in reality the fan sites are much better than actually sitting through the show.

[goodwije]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[JediBendu]

happy life day style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

http://www.galacticsenate.com/uploads/lifeday.gif

[endoverclothing]

Holiday special t-shirts (http://server5.uploadit.org/files/endoverclothing-holiday.jpg)

coming soon. Im going to make a site where you can use paypal. There is also the same shirt but on the back it says "even santa hates it!"

If you would like to preorder one please send an email to
hedkase@hotmail.com
with what size and saying you want on the back
shirts are 10$ plus 3$ shipping

In the email please put your name and mailing address. When the shirts are ready to be shipped out then I will get back to you with the requests for payment.

[Kapit]

hahahhahah!!!

awesome!!!!

[endoverclothing]

holiday special t-shirt site (http://www.holidayspecial.cjb.net/)

here ya go.

[mazzy]

Heh - funny. I survived....

[cj790]

^ Physically; but mentally?...

[Ripley the Warmaster]

<span style="color:red">Can you download the HS from the HS site?</span>

[Thrusting Trooper]

No don't watch the holiday special it is horrible and I am a huge wookiee fan and I hated it!

[mazzy]

^ Yeah, minutes of Wookies talking with no subtitles....what were they saying???

[BoHeDia]

it will make the most fanatic fan akak me even hate it...no matter what...

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Since it's the holiday season, this might as well be bumped up. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

I saw it for the first time this past summer, on a privately remastered DVD transfer from one of the old VHS tapes. It's tacky, and filled with seventies' goodness (or badness, depending on your point of view), but if you don't take it seriously, you can have a blast with it. I'm going to start a tradition of watching it each year in December, just for the heck of it (I'm going to pull a few friends on campus into my viewing this year, because they want to see just how random it is). And besides, at least you can entertain yourself by 'translating' what the Mala, Itchy, and Lumpy are grunting about over the course of the special. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[bluemilk]

me and Skot made this style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

Star Wars Holiday Special -- a very good website by Skot Kirkwood and BlueMilk (http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/)

[T-bone]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Nice page...one thing I love to do is to read peoples' reaction to the Special online. It humours me, for some reason. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[BoHeDia]

it was horrible, i will post the same comment that i made on my own forums...

Okay guys, i just first saw this last night around eleven oclock so i am gonna write a book here...

...first of all, what the hell is up with the falcon cockpit, its like all bobble headish, they couldnt even get george to let them use the original set of the falcon so they had to go and crap together somethihng out of a cereal box...ridiculous

...Next, Mark Hamill, i am disgusted that yyou would let them film you while you look like some ass of a pretty boy, i mean with hair like that you could be in a boy band or something, come on man, was the money really that good that you had to let them deface one of the most famous science fiction characters of all time, and yo turned his character into a whiney *pregnant dog*, oh artoo, you were supposed to be watching that, come on man be the tough farmboy i know you are...

...What did they do to one of my most favorite starwars species, did they kill the wookiees and record the sounds of their deaths, these wookiees all soundd like they were dying, lumpy the most of all. And what wookiee can any of you remeber that would just leet imperial storm troopers come into their house and search it, none to my knowledge, it should have taken at least thirty storm troops to pull that off if chewie were home, but they probaby didnt have enough money to cast that many extras cause they spent all the money on Mark hamills hair spray...on another note, what kind of *girl thingy* ass wookiee uses a cane to help him walk, and what is the deal with his one tooth?.?.?.

...And why throughout the whole show are there these little dancing poeple in colorful outfits, and singing too, geogre what were you thinking letting these morons film this, you must have been desperate and obviously didnt direct this, this makes the phantom menace look like a LOTR film, spectacular...

...What was the purpose of malla and that cooking show with the black lady that had a wig and four arms,lets just stir and whip and stir stir right past this one...

...the bar scene was okay up until they start the singing, the aliens looked okay, and i liked the guy with a mouth on his head and had six fingers on one hand, even though its no wonder why the lady bartender wasnt interested in him, i mean come on he had a mouth on top of his head and could count to eleven on his hands...and am i mistaken or is that bartender the lady from golden girls...

...Itchy looks like a frikin star destroyer ran into his face full thrust, what the hell happened to him, did he go to see the emporor when he got bored...and im not gonna comment on the lifeday presents, and the computers they have look like toys i played with when i was like three, what the hell...

...leias acting was also a painful thing to watch, they must have not been paying her enough, once again cause they spoent it all on hamills hair...

...why in all nine corellian hells is there a rock band in starwars?.?.?

...the cartoon was bad, i first thought so because boba was acting like a good guy, but then i had a nice little twist to it,m whoever drew these must have been high off some serious weed that day...

...I was also a little disappointed that there were no lightsabers in the whole thing...even though if they had them they probably would look like a flashlight or something...so i'm actually glad that they kept them out, cause i could not have bared it if they made that look bad too...

...the only GOOD thing was DARTH VADER, he sounded the same and kept his dominating menacing look and aura...

...ALL IN ALL, i never want to watch this again...it was a flying peice of *physical act of love*ing *sith spawn* and should meet the same fate as the sun crusher, throw into a *physical act of love*ing black hole...excuse my language, i am sorry if i offended any of you with it, but this was just that bad, and my useing this kind of language is really a compliment to the hoilday special, it doesnt even deserve these words...

[Trilogist]

From Jedinet:

Lucas: Ban the Holiday Special! (http://www.jedinet.com/miscellaneous/#19265,20041129,7107)

[Sluggo]

that's kind of harsh...

[mazzy]

I don't think it is harsh...but don't ban it. There is comedy value!

[brookie]

and B'arthur value!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Matt]

I don't like supporting pirating, but since GL is being a tight arse on this one, it;s the only way for me to go. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif I'll be picking up a cheap rip-off from Ebay soon. Some are selling them with the Muppet Show SW episode, and the origonal Kenner trailers. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif If it doesn't come in one, I'll manufacture a cover so it fits in with my SW DVDs! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[brookie]

i bought the sw xmas special on dvd at a comic book store style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

[Trilogist]

They charged you for the thing? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[cj790]

You've gotta love it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

It really is one of the most interesting pieces of filth to ever have been passed before my retinas style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[mazzy]

Originally posted by brookie@Dec 1 2004, 07:03 PM
i bought the sw xmas special on dvd at a comic book store style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif
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Did it come with a warning?

[brookie]

haha only a B aurthur WARNING!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Sluggo]

*groan*

[cj790]

Originally posted by brookie@Dec 2 2004, 11:41 PM
haha only a B aurthur WARNING!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
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Warning! 'Singing' may not resemble actual vocal talent!

[Galahad_Skywalker]

I can't wait to see how this turns out...because of time conflicts with friends, it looks like I might be watching the Holiday Special twice before the night is over...will I survive? Who really knows?

[brookie]

hahahha,

WARNING: the wierd ass dancers may cause one to poke ones eyes out with a hot needle!

[mazzy]

Warning the amount of times "Goodbye friend" is repeated may cause you to never want to hear those words in conjunction again.

[BoHeDia]

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo..caugh caugh...dont....do....i..tttt....

[brookie]

you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!

[JediBendu]

Originally posted by brookie@Dec 5 2004, 02:28 AM
you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!

if you can make it that far that is =P
every time I let someone borrow my tape I'd always say 'Just hang on till the cartoon' - but they never did style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif

I love it! My copy still has the american adds from the 70s in it - it's sooo cool style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue2.gif

[Darth Palpy]

you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!

Nah, that's equally as cack too imo !

[Sluggo]

I ought to start a HS Defense Force...

[cj790]

Warning! Trying to watch all this junk just for Boba Fett may seriously injure your sensibilities!
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Sabrina Fried]

Originally posted by brookie@Dec 4 2004, 09:28 PM
you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!
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Actually the Boba Fett cartoon had a really wierd "Heavy Metal" kind of vibe to it, which I found less painful to watch than the rest of the special...exept that it was toned down and made suitable for a family audience.

For the record, I picked up my copy at a con. Talked the vendor down to about CDN $15. Apparently though its one of the discs he gets the most requests for.

And yes, the next time someone says "Goodbye Friend" to me in a sappy, melodramatic voice, they die.

Sabrina style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif

[SKot]

So, it appears they are showing at least part of the Holiday Special in Canada during the ZeD segment on CBC:

http://puppetvision.blogspot.com/2004/12/s...ial-on-zed.html (http://puppetvision.blogspot.com/2004/12/star-wars-holiday-special-on-zed.html)

I'm extremely curious as to what they're using for the source. This is CBC, which is the same network the HS originally aired on in Canada, so it's possible they might have a copy in their archives!

Who is in Canada that can tape (or better: TIVO) this thing? This is a must-see thing, and it's the first time major pieces of the HS have been shown on TV since the original airing!

--SKot
http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com

[brookie]

Originally posted by JediBendu+Dec 5 2004, 10:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JediBendu @ Dec 5 2004, 10:02 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Dec 5 2004, 02:28 AM
you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!

if you can make it that far that is =P
every time I let someone borrow my tape I'd always say 'Just hang on till the cartoon' - but they never did style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif

I love it! My copy still has the american adds from the 70s in it - it's sooo cool style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue2.gif
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[/b][/quote]


yes my copy does too, i like to see the retro adds!

when carrie fisher sings, i cant help but feel embarassed for her! hell im embarassed for all of them!

WARNING: listening to too much wookiee talk will result irreversible brain damage!

[mazzy]

Originally posted by brookie@Dec 5 2004, 02:28 AM
you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!
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Yeah, that is the sort of sane bit really isn't it? It's pretty cool.

[Max Starkiller]

This movie is such kitsch. It's so unbearable in the first half...oy gevalt. "ROAAAARGH!" and " You can say that again. "

The performance by Jefferson Starship was dreadful.

I'd say the best line in it is "I HATE FISH!" - Generic imperial.

This all being said, I too, like the cartoon segment with Fett.
GL ruined everything by adding him in ANH!

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by SKot@Dec 7 2004, 09:40 PM
Who is in Canada that can tape (or better: TIVO) this thing? This is a must-see thing, and it's the first time major pieces of the HS have been shown on TV since the original airing!
http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com
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I checked CBC.ca and it's not listed as showing in my area style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif hopefully Sabrina Fried or someone could tape it since they're out east.

[Sabrina Fried]

Sorry guys, I think I missed the Ep.

I find their site a bit hard to navigate, although that could also be because they are on hiatus until the new year.

Sabrina

[Leto Aldriss]

You missed nothing but a fit of convulsive wretching.

God it was bad.

And I've only seen it once, when I was eight. My friend's father taped it, and when we saw the tape we though "cool Star Wars", but damn it was a more painfull experience than dislocating my shoulder.

[Ithorian guy]

I have a copy of it, I thought it was not as bad as many people say, but I have to admit it is kind of cheesy. THough it does get you in the holiday spirit, even though it really does not have to do with Christmas, Hannukah, or Quanza,or even New Year style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/vaderxmas.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/leiaxmas.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/maulxmas.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sidxmas.gif :yodaxmas:

[BoHeDia]

how can you say that, its horrible...

[Ithorian guy]

It did have some interesting points to it, such as, the introduction of Kashyyyk, and you also get a little more background information a chewie's family, and dont forget the introduction of Boba Fett, and wookie ceramonies. cant you see, without the holiday special, we would not have boba, or even Kashyyyk, which would blow the whole prequel starwars galacticbattle grounds kashyyk campain out of the water, and without Lumpy(hehe funny name!) who would swere to continue Chewies lifedept to han at the end of TUF? and where would the battle of Kashyyyk in ep.3 take place if there was NO kashyyyk? and what bounty hunter would capture han if there was no boba? here would most likely be no mandalores at all if it hadnt been for boba. you see the creation of the holiday special really was a good thing for the EU and starwars period in the end.

[BoHeDia]

the good DO NOT outway the bad, at least not in my book...

[Ithorian guy]

i have to admit it was not a good movie/tv special, but it did intruduce some great things into the starwars universe

[BoHeDia]

yeah, your right...i just think that i would have been good if george had been involved more...

[Sluggo]

BUMP!!

[Daibutsusan73]

Three words:

LUKE WEARS MASCERA!

[bubbha]

Originally posted by JediBendu+Dec 5 2004, 10:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JediBendu @ Dec 5 2004, 10:02 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-brookie@Dec 5 2004, 02:28 AM
you know whats real cool though? the boba fett cartoon!

if you can make it that far that is =P
every time I let someone borrow my tape I'd always say 'Just hang on till the cartoon' - but they never did style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif
[/b][/quote]
I'll let you in on a little secret.

It's called the "fast forward" button.

[empire21]

never seen it

[Emperor Palpatine]

^Neither have I, so it looks like we lucked out! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Darth Blarth]

Oh you did,it was truly vile,but it did at least introduce us to Boba Fett
I wonder if it is considered EU ot not? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif

[Sluggo]

The fact that George Lucas wants to destroy every bootleg copy with a hammer ought to be a good hint as to its EU status.

[Daibutsusan73]

EUDF......ATTACK! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl.gif

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by Sluggo@Apr 11 2005, 10:30 AM
The fact that George Lucas wants to destroy every bootleg copy with a hammer ought to be a good hint as to its EU status.
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No, it's not EU. In fact it's classified by LFL as N (non-continuity).

[Ko-Enshaku]

I believe it, Magnus. I have a copy just for history's sake, but its basically unwatchable. I like the Boba Fett cartoon. It has an interesting style. But, my God! What were they thinking with Bea Arthur singing! And all that garbage about Chewbacca's creepy dad and the bits including Luke and company where they all seem either embarrased, drugged up or both. Sheesh. Did we like that when we were kids?

[goodwije]

loved it when i was a kid, the late 70's where just a different time.

[Leiafan]

As I like to say, the Holiday Special isn't as bad as you've heard. It's worse.

[Anguirus111]

Originally posted by Ko-Enshaku@Apr 18 2005, 12:02 AM
I believe it, Magnus. I have a copy just for history's sake, but its basically unwatchable.* I like the Boba Fett cartoon. It has an interesting style. But, my God! What were they thinking with Bea Arthur singing!* And all that garbage about Chewbacca's creepy dad and the bits including Luke and company where they all seem either embarrased, drugged up or both. Sheesh. Did we like that when we were kids?
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Yeah me too, I have a copy that I have for historical value. I watched it twice within a six month period about five/six years ago and have yet to even consider watching it again.

http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/star-wars...ay-special.html (http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/star-wars-holiday-special.html)

[Master Magnus]

Originally posted by Ko-Enshaku@Apr 18 2005, 06:02 AM
I believe it, Magnus. I have a copy just for history's sake, but its basically unwatchable. I like the Boba Fett cartoon. It has an interesting style. But, my God! What were they thinking with Bea Arthur singing! And all that garbage about Chewbacca's creepy dad and the bits including Luke and company where they all seem either embarrased, drugged up or both. Sheesh. Did we like that when we were kids?
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>

I've only read a transcript and seen a few pictures, but it does seem awful. I can understand why GL wants to erase it from history. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[cj790]

I'm tempted to get myself a copy, but I don't know if I could ever put myself through that pain again!

There should be a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 on it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Leiafan]

One of my friends paid actual money for a really good copy made from a master tape. She and her family would watch it and MST3K it. They especially loved to imitate dogs howling when Carrie Fisher sings and hits that really sour note.

She told me last year that she saw someone had burned it onto DVD and was hawking it on eBay: "I'm tempted." I replied, "You're shameless!"

Another time we were having an IM convo and talked about how hilarious it would've been if, during the Golden Globes tribute to Harrison Ford's career, some joker had included scenes from the Holiday Special in the movie clips portion.

Me: "Then they cut to: Harrison, hanging himself with his tie."
Her: "Or just sliding lower in his chair..."
Me: "Covering his face with his hands..."
Her: "Trying to crawl out of the theater unnoticed..."
Me: "Wearing a Groucho Marx disguise..."

When I still subscribed to Entertainment Weakly (not a typo), they had an article about a website that was devoted to showcasing the most brain-scarringly cheesy SW-related stuff ever inflicted on the public. And there was a LOT of it. I don't remember the URL, but the Holiday Special was on it (of course), plus the "Donny and Marie Show" episode where Donny dressed up as Luke and Marie as Leia, complete with cinnamon bun hairdo. I think the well-meaning but LAME anti-smoking public service announcements that Anthony Daniels as C3PO did for TV in the 80s were on there. If not, they should've been. Mark Hamill's appearance on "The Muppet Show" may have been on there; I don't remember. I actually liked that appearance, though many complain it's cheesy, especially when he gargles Gershwin with Angus McGonagall the Argyle Gargoyle. But IMO his appearance on "The Great Space Coaster" was about a hundred times cheesier.

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/text/tom_burman.htm

[Sluggo]

Cool. Good work SKot. I learned sumthin' new today.

[Darth Octavious]

I have the SW Holiday Special on DVD, anybody want to trade?

[dvs]

lol @ how a bootleg of this is acceptable with people style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl.gif

[Sluggo]

Yeah, it's an aquired taste.

[James William Alexander Atreides]

And yet it is considered canon. I saw it once or twice. And it introduced Boba Fett to us so you can't scrap it completely. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/jangofett.gif

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Is it bad?

Yes.

Yet I think it's how bad it is that is the reason I actually enjoy the bloody thing. I got my bootleg of it last summer and watched it the afternoon I got it. Then, last December I gathered five or six of my friends in my dorm room and we watched it while passing around a microphone plugged into someone's computer. We recorded an hour and a half of commentary, and it was one of the most enjoyable get-togethers with friends that I've ever had, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens again this year.

Apparently there's also a Star Wars Holiday Album. I have not heard it, but it sounds worse than the Holiday Special, if you ask me:

http://www.i-mockery.com/shorts/starwars-xmas/

[stormtrooper9]

Listend to the fisrt one and alittle of Bells Bells Bells I can see 3CPOs voice getting annyoing I would of listen to more but I kinda have a disliking for X Mast songs this early

[James William Alexander Atreides]

And Chewbacca's father is considered the ugliest Wookie in the galaxy. The costumes are bad. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/barf.gif

[master-kev]

The Boba Fett cartoon has to be the only good thing out of it.

[Nairb]

Originally posted by James William Alexander Atreides@Aug 6 2005, 09:15 AM
And yet it is considered canon. I saw it once or twice. And it introduced Boba Fett to us so you can't scrap it completely. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/jangofett.gif
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No, it's not considered canon. It's labeled as "N"..."non continuity".

I own it and like it - I converted the RM file to a DVD format, which cleaned it up considerably (but still far from perfect), added some 'special features' from around the net, slapped on a custom DVD cover, and it's a proud part of my collection.

I think that everyone should see this at least once - it does get a bit of a bad rap because it gets trashed so badly.

[Sluggo]

All right, another Holiday Special owner. Everybody ought to be one of these.

[cj790]

I'm tempted to own it - but I'm not sure I'd ever watch it...

[Sluggo]

I think you should. How can any self-respecting SW fan call themselves Hardcore without watching it?

[neveragain]

I just watched this recently. . The whole thing is so psychedelic. I mean Mermeia WTF? I think the biggest mistake would be to try to *understand* the show, rather than just going along for the ride.






please do not talk of drug use here, because this is an all ages board.

[cj790]

Originally posted by Sluggo@Aug 24 2005, 07:10 PM
I think you should. How can any self-respecting SW fan call themselves Hardcore without watching it?
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Oh I've seen it (My eyes! My Eyes!); I'm just not sure how comfortable I'd be with it in my house!

[Darth Fool]

Due to being... well... mad I own two copies. First I had it on VHS and then after being offered it on DVD, I got a DVD version too which has a better image quality and an option to play just the cartoon bit.

[Mothman]

Originally posted by Galahad_Skywalker@Aug 8 2005, 04:23 PM
Apparently there's also a Star Wars Holiday Album. I have not heard it, but it sounds worse than the Holiday Special...
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I found it at my local library. It's called "Christmas in the Stars" and has alot of C-3PO singing and R2-D2 beeping. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/artoo.gif

[Nairb]

I have that very album - it features none other than a very, very young Jon Bon Jovi performing. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif I would love to get it transferred over to CD format...it's a real kick.

[cj790]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thud.gif

I have to get this... !

[Nairb]

Ha! I just found this amusing review:

http://www.i-mockery.com/shorts/starwars-xmas/

Check out the audio portion for a sampler (and just as a sampler, it's legal)

[Pepper]

If I was Lucas, I'd go on a Sith rampage all over the world, utterly obliterating all the horrible HORRIBLE Star Wars merchandise that exists.

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/vader.gif

[Ant]

Why the hell was this made !

[SuperPalpy]

Yeah, I'd like to see it at least once.

[James William Alexander Atreides]

I saw it some years ago, but I vaguely remember it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

[billytheskink]

Lucas should put it on DVD, he knows people will buy it.

I suppose he could be that embarrassed by it, it is dreadful.

[Darth Rusty]

I have a realaudio version of The Holiday Special and I've watched it quite a few times, showed my kids, and they love it, unfortunately, I can't put it on a disc to watch it on my television, are there any copies out there in a different format than realaudio? The quality doesn't have to be great, but good enough to see what's going on. Thanx everyone.

Darth Rusty

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by Darth Rusty@Sep 25 2005, 10:04 PM
I have a realaudio version of The Holiday Special and I've watched it quite a few times, showed my kids, and they love it, unfortunately, I can't put it on a disc to watch it on my television, are there any copies out there in a different format than realaudio? The quality doesn't have to be great, but good enough to see what's going on. Thanx everyone.

Darth Rusty
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Send me a PM. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/holosid.gif

[thepepgal]

It needs to be watched at least once by every Star Wars fans. It has highlights like Boba fett cartoon and lowlights like the cantina scene.

George will never hunt down every bootleg copy so he may as well make money out of it by releasing it on dvd.

Yes he will be embarrassed but it is history. Everything else of Star Wars has been released or is coming soon so why not this.

Would also like to see the original version of ep IV on dvd. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[billytheskink]

Just watched it over the weekend. This thing was a disaster from the get go, and the enjoyable cartoon is a bit too short and thin on plot to save the special.

The cartoon and Jefferson Starship were the best parts, in my opinion. Most everthing else was pretty painful, especially the "mind humidfier" (or whatever it's called) sequence. And, dang, Itchy is one ugly fellow.

[Adamwankenobi]

How is the progress on SKot's "ultimate" DVD going?

[Dark Helmet]

how come ive never heard of this holiday special?

[billytheskink]

Originally posted by Dark Helmet@Oct 6 2005, 09:39 PM
how come ive never heard of this holiday special?
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Lucas wishes everyone hadn't heard of it, I'm sure.

He sure don't bang the drums about it.

[Nairb]

Originally posted by Dark Helmet@Oct 7 2005, 04:39 AM
how come ive never heard of this holiday special?
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It very much depends on how long you've been a fan and how old you are...preferrably a high combination of both. I did see it on CBS when it aired, and still remember that very well...but with time and age, I never really though about it again until someone showed it at a comic convention in '89 or '90, and I remembered that I had saw it so many years ago.

In many ways, it is completely forgettable, but in others it just can't be forgotten. It's like a fun version of PTSD.

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by Adam****enobi@Oct 6 2005, 10:01 AM
How is the progress on SKot's "ultimate" DVD going?
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He's waiting on somebody for a master source for part of it. I've been talking Easter eggs and Bonus Features with him. The disc should be killer once it get's off the ground.

[Adamwankenobi]

Awesome! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif

[brookie]

its that wonderful time of year! the time to break out the holiday special boot leg DVD!

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by brookie@Nov 30 2005, 02:16 PM
its that wonderful time of year! the time to break out the holiday special boot leg DVD!
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This has to be better than the bootleg 2 inch diameter Real Player version I have on my computer... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Ithorian guy]

^ That's what I have too. Its a nightmare to deal with.

[thepepgal]

I only have it on video so I get a full screen version when I watch.

It could anyone nightmares watching on a big screan tv. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl.gif

[Sluggo]

I watched it again the other day. I think I have seen it more than ten times now. That's more times than I saw Episode 2 in the theaters. HELP!

[Mothman]

Originally posted by thepepgal@Dec 3 2005, 07:06 AM
I only have it on video so I get a full screen version when I watch....
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It's a TV show from 1977 - there only is a full screen version. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif

[Sluggo]

If you put a letterbox template over it, that would mean that there would be less to watch. That can't be a bad thing.

[Galahad_Skywalker]

^They did that sort of thing with Gone With the Wind back in the day, so I wonder if we could persuade Lucas to release it with letterbox matting, by using the line, "Hey, there'll be less of it onscreen, so what do you say?"

Here I am, two days till Christmas, and I still haven't popped my bootleg in. Mayhap tonight, on my family's 27-inch television set...

[Enfilade]

My friend and I watched it and he'd never seen it before. He was horrified. I was laughing, but I was twice as drunk as he was.

[Jack Spencer Jr]

Ah, the Star Wars Holiday Special...

Plot Synopsis:

Chewbacca needs to return home to his family for a Wookie holiday known as "life Day." Chewie and Han streak through space while dodging Imperial forces in order to get there in time.

Is this what the show is about?

Well, sort of. Only we don't watch Han and Chewie as they battle star destroyers. No, no. we watch his family as they wait for them to arrive.

Hoo, dirty word, ha!

All-in-all, it's not all that bad, but it's not really that good. It's cheesy. Plain and simple. It has comedy which is not all that funny, drama that's not all that gripping, and music. Yipee!

But, this special does explain some of the affection fans has for Boba Fett. Not all, but some. This was his first ever appearance in the animated cartoon. To be frank, it's not bad. At least it give boba more to do than in the movies. He had little to do in ESB and he was taken out like a punk in RotJ. Why fans have latched onto this guy who was killed literally by accident. Well, in the special, he's actualy give a role in the plot as someone who pretends to befriend our heroes but turns out to be working for Vader. This was pretty cool. And not too long after the Special aired, Kenner ran it's promotion for the Boba Fett action figure. Send in X number of proof-of-purchases and receive Boba Fett or something. This stirred all kinds of emotions in the young Star Wars fans at the time. 1) this meant a new Star Wars movie was coming, and that was just too good, and 2) this boba Fett guy must be pretty special is Kenner was releasing him as a special mail in offer like that. He must be the coolest guy ever!

So, anyway. That explains some of the why for Boba Fett love. Because there is precious little reason in the actual films. True, he doesn't act all that intimidated by Vader "What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot of money to me!" But there isn't much of that sort of thing.

Worse, the Prequels give us less reason to be impressed with Boba Fett. First of all, he's a clone from Jango (or however it's spelled) Fett, the guy from whom all the clone warriors/storm troopers were taken. That's right, every time a stormtrooper is taken out like a punk, that's another Boba Fett getting spanked like a baby boy. And Jango himself gets taken out like a punk. "Oh, let me fly by you so you can cut my head off." Oh, brother. I guess the tree doesn't fall far from the apple.

But, the Holiday Special is... well, it's not for everybody. It is cheesy as all get out. But at the time, it fed a nation's insatiable appetite for Star Wars.

[Stale Elvis]

...I've got it here on my PC...

...It truly is dreadful...

[Rage Killmore]

I got it burned to a VCD(video cd) and in avi...

horrible...Harvy Corman...I love his work...Itchy has to be my fav on there though

[grievous101]

SWHS does suck pretty bad. The only good part I thought was the cartoon segment.
:banghead:

[doctor clu]

I have become fascinated by this film. I guess that makes me either a true Star Wars fan, or nuts. Then again, I always did like the story lines of the early Luke around "A New Hope".

Ok, for a laugh, my initial impression of the Holiday Special, broken down to the minute: (Well, the first 50 minutes, which was all that site had)

http://www.xanga.com/DoctorClu/490795932/s...ay-special.html (http://www.xanga.com/DoctorClu/490795932/star-wars-holiday-special.html)

And here I start to break down what is good about the holiday special:

http://www.xanga.com/DoctorClu/491380782/t...-continued.html (http://www.xanga.com/DoctorClu/491380782/theres-good-in-him-i-can-feel-it-holiday-special-continued.html)

I need to find as good a copy of this as I can find. I think there is enough materials and ideas to salvage a good, enjoyable, one hour movie from the two hour special, and I would like to try to compile it. :)

So please point me to where I can find the BEST copy of this, please someone. You're my only hope. :p

[doctor clu]

Originally posted by Nairb@Sep 1 2005, 10:51 PM
Ha! I just found this amusing review:

http://www.i-mockery.com/shorts/starwars-xmas/

Check out the audio portion for a sampler (and just as a sampler, it's legal)
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Being a long time fan of the Droids and Dr. Demento, I got along with this album great. :)

Thanks for letting us know about this.

[Darth Darthy]

I've got this album and it's pure stilton forced through the marketing machine. I'm not sure why/who would put this on at Christmas because it's so very bad.

If you want it PM me and I'll see what I can do for you. Just prepare to weep openly at Anthony Daniels desperate grab for money.

[Enfilade]

The animated segment is bearable sober, yes.

[jarjarsmeagol]

In case anyone was interested, Baboon Man (http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/characters/baboon_man.htm) is the current subject of the "What's the Story?" (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/news20050624.html) feature at starwars.com.

[jayce76]

That's funny , I Haven't seen the Holiday special in a long time. I just remember something about Chewy bum-ugly family scaring the hell out'a me . . . .

[Mike N]

I've had the "honour" of seeing the SWHS.

It was bad, I daresay it's worse than Shatner's album The Transformed Man. It was a bit worse for me than some people, because I'd never seen or heard of any of the celebrities in the cameo scenes. The best part for me was noticing that Mark Hammill looks like Carol Brady.

My review is best summed up in the following Wayne's World quote:

"Ohhh! Ahh! Turn it of man, turn it off! Oh it's sucking my will to live! Oh the humanityyyyy!"

[jayce76]

It's so bad . . . .It's good!

[Darth Fool]

No it's just bad.

[jayce76]

You got me there partner . .

[Darth Octavious]

I got it on DVD for X-mas last year.

[jayce76]

What?

[Darth Octavious]

My friend got it off ebay. Some guy recorded long time ago, in Baltimore. Still had the commercials. Then he put on DVD.

[Darth Octavious]

I've had the "honour" of seeing the SWHS.

It was bad, I daresay it's worse than Shatner's album The Transformed Man. It was a bit worse for me than some people, because I'd never seen or heard of any of the celebrities in the cameo scenes. The best part for me was noticing that Mark Hammill looks like Carol Brady.

My review is best summed up in the following Wayne's World quote:

"Ohhh! Ahh! Turn it of man, turn it off! Oh it's sucking my will to live! Oh the humanityyyyy!"
I haven't heard Shatner's album, but it's tough to think which one is the worse: SWHS or Corvette Summer.

[Sarah-Leia]

I'd like to see it - to see what's so bad about it!

[Sluggo]

Be careful what you wish for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGzizktCiI

[Darth Octavious]

I'd like to see it - to see what's so bad about it!
When you do see it, be proud that you are in a club, a special one. To be a member of this club is special. And I agree with Sluggo.

[RollaFett]

Oh my god. I just watched the opening 2 minutes on from that youtube link, without any sound, and it was painful. Ugh.

[empire21]

Be careful what you wish for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGzizktCiI


Man, was that ever freaky.

[flo fett]

Is it...is it...considered canon?
*shudders*
I had forgotten how bad it was
*tries to forget for another ten years*

[Adamwankenobi]

Is it...is it...considered canon?
*shudders*
I had forgotten how bad it was
*tries to forget for another ten years*

Yes. I actually asked Leland Chee (keeper of continuity for Lucas Licensing) about this a while back over at the StarWars.com forums. He said it is considered S-canon, meaning it is canon unless another EU author contradicts it. And even then, only that element that is contradicted is kicked out of canon.

[Darth Octavious]

Oh my god. I just watched the opening 2 minutes on from that youtube link, without any sound, and it was painful. Ugh.

First time seeing it, Rolla? What do you think about Luke's look? And the rest of the special, hmmm, ....funny special.

[Darth Darthy]

I hope they release the song about love sung by a very high Carrie Fisher to the theme of Star Wars on CD at some point. It's quite simply beautiful.

[Saranac]

carrie fisher high? that shall be arranged...

[RollaFett]

First time seeing it, Rolla? What do you think about Luke's look? And the rest of the special, hmmm, ....funny special.


Yeah, first time seeing any part of it, and I only saw the first couple of minutes so I can't really comment on all of it. That said, I did see Luke in the opening credits and...whoa! Didn't somebody compare that look to Carol Brady? That's pretty accurate.

[Galahad_Skywalker]

I have a DVD of it without the commercials, and some friends and I are planning a viewing on a projector this weekend. I think I'll bring a bottle for us to share, to add to the hilarity.

Two years ago, before we were all able to drink, I had another viewing where we passed around a microphone attached to someone's laptop. We recording a pretty interesting commentary, which I wish I still had somewhere.

[RollaFett]

^Just one bottle?

[huttslime]

I have a DVD of it without the commercials, and some friends and I are planning a viewing on a projector this weekend. I think I'll bring a bottle for us to share, to add to the hilarity.

Two years ago, before we were all able to drink, I had another viewing where we passed around a microphone attached to someone's laptop. We recording a pretty interesting commentary, which I wish I still had somewhere.

How did you get a DVD copy of it??