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T-bone
09-01-2003, 09:57 PM
Hi all. At the request of a Senator here, I'm opening this topic where people can ask me their Star Wars related questions.

I don't pretend to be any official source or last word on the subject. Please understand that I might be wrong here and there. I will tell you however when I'm injecting opinion or speculation into my answers.

Please keep all questions FILM related (I'm no EU authority) and I'll get to them as soon as I can.

Thanks and start asking...

Gazelle
09-01-2003, 10:06 PM
Well, let me kick this off!

I heard it said of ROTJ that when Vader is searching for Luke under the stairs that the script was extremely vague, to the tune of "Vader says something to upset Luke" and that the whole "sister" element was thought of later in post-production. I would be interested to know if this can be substantiated from any official sources.

While you're at it, you might like to comment on why Vader has Luke's lightsabre in his hand briefly - obviously this is an edit of a deleted scene.

Thanks T-Bone.

T-bone
09-01-2003, 10:12 PM
As for the lightsaber thing: refer to this page...

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e..._lightsaber.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep6/lukes_lightsaber.htm)

Now, the whole sister/brother storyline I believe was something Lucas went back and forth with, hence the kissing in ESB and all that. I read that somewhere...I'll have to look some more for it.

Gazelle
09-01-2003, 10:23 PM
I seem to recall an interview with Lucas (20 years ago now so the old memory cells may be struggling), that I recorded on to betamax tape so that I could watch it again and again. In this interview, I am sure Lucas made these comments "It just said, 'Vader says something to upset Luke'" However, I can't remember if this was in the context of all that was in the script on the day that it was actually shot, or whether he meant that he was agonising over what to do with that scene before production. I think it was the former.

I remember that the whole Luke and Leia thing was a huge secret, even hearing of a story (which may or may not be true) of Harrison Ford or Anthony Daniels having a sleep close to where the "It's you Leia" scene was happening or being rehearsed, and him having to be sworn to secrecy. So I could imagine a situation where nobody wanted Prowse, or even members of the crew to know about it.

All I know is since I saw that interview, I have always watched the "under the stairs" scene with interest, believing that nothing was actually being said under there. I would be fascinated to know if this is true. Hamill may be not actually be saying "Nooo!" if you look carefully.

DblDwn
09-01-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 1 2003, 06:23 PM
Hamill may be not actually be saying "Nooo!" if you look carefully.
That's a fair point since it is "NEVER!" that Luke screams upon standing up. ???

Gazelle
09-01-2003, 10:36 PM
Is it???

Javen
09-01-2003, 10:39 PM
*Please no one answer this question except T'Bone.*

T do you think that Emperor/Palpatine was once a Jedi?

T-bone
09-01-2003, 10:44 PM
Do I personally think that?

No.

DblDwn
09-02-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Javen@Sep 1 2003, 06:39 PM
*Please no one answer this question except T'Bone.*

T do you think that Emperor/Palpatine was once a Jedi?
Nicely phrased Javen style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

DblDwn
09-02-2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 1 2003, 06:36 PM
Is it???
It is..........but leave the questions for T

AndyWanKenobi
09-02-2003, 12:33 AM
You wouldnt happen to know who the founder of the Jedi order was would you?
Do you know what planet Obi-Wan Kenobi is from? He is my favorite charecter and it is one of the few things i dont know about him.

T-bone
09-02-2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Andy****enobi@Sep 1 2003, 11:33 PM
You wouldnt happen to know who the founder of the Jedi order was would you?
Do you know what planet Obi-Wan Kenobi is from? He is my favorite charecter and it is one of the few things i dont know about him.
No and no, sorry bout that!

JediJaina
09-02-2003, 01:20 AM
Do you think the droids had memory wipes after Episode 3?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by JediJaina@Sep 2 2003, 12:20 AM
Do you think the droids had memory wipes after Episode 3?
You're referring to R2 and 3PO, I assume.

I actually do think they have them if not during Episode III, then sometime soon after. However, I'm thinking that at least 3PO will get one in this film. R2 always seems to know where he's going and what he's doing so perhaps he evaded the great wipe?

AndyWanKenobi
09-02-2003, 02:13 AM
Sorry about those questions. I wont be dumb and ask questions that arent known anywhere. I was just kinda hoping I have been out of the loop and they have been answered. Oh well........ thanks anyways about that. I do have another question though......

I heard the Sith were an actual race dominated by the first fallen Jedi. Is that true?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by Andy****enobi@Sep 2 2003, 01:13 AM
Sorry about those questions. I wont be dumb and ask questions that arent known anywhere. I was just kinda hoping I have been out of the loop and they have been answered. Oh well........ thanks anyways about that. I do have another question though......

I heard the Sith were an actual race dominated by the first fallen Jedi. Is that true?
Yea - I remember reading all about that at some point too. I'm actually not an Expanded Universe kinda guy. I'm into the films and some of the surrounding stuff. Ask me stuff about the films and I can pretty much get you some kind of answer but the stuff that has nothing to do with the movies, you're better off asking an expert in that area or visiting starwars.com's databanks.

Like this one: http://www.starwars.com/databank/organizat...thesith/eu.html (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/eu.html)

AndyWanKenobi
09-02-2003, 02:22 AM
Questions from the movies? Ok. Is it true in one scene in the special edition they show Mara Jade as a dancer in Jabba's palace? I think her name was Arica. It would be a nice movie-EU tie in if she was. If she was can you tell me what scene she was in? Also in AOTC, there was a jedi council member killed by jango on a balcony. I have heard him called by several names. What is the official name? Thanks again.

Tovor
09-02-2003, 02:25 AM
T'bone, although GL more likely than not had no idea he would include 3PO as he did in the Anakin/Lars story, when he made ANH, I got the idea recently upon watching ANH again, that certain looks 3PO gave toward Luke and Owen during the Jawa sale could be used later (after Ep. III comes out) to say that 3PO had all his memories intact and knew that meeting Luke and generating his interest in R2's message was part of the plan. Would you subscribe to the feasibility of such a notion?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Andy****enobi@Sep 2 2003, 01:22 AM
Questions from the movies? Ok. Is it true in one scene in the special edition they show Mara Jade as a dancer in Jabba's palace? I think her name was Arica. It would be a nice movie-EU tie in if she was. If she was can you tell me what scene she was in?
I don't think she's in the flick but this page has info on her:

http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2000/12/ne...ws20001209.html (http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2000/12/news20001209.html)

scroll down a bit.

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Andy****enobi@Sep 2 2003, 01:22 AM
Also in AOTC, there was a jedi council member killed by jango on a balcony. I have heard him called by several names. What is the official name? Thanks again.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character...ebor/index.html (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/colemantrebor/index.html)

Coleman Trebor (an acronym for lead animator Robert Coleman)

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Tovor@Sep 2 2003, 01:25 AM
T'bone, although GL more likely than not had no idea he would include 3PO as he did in the Anakin/Lars story, when he made ANH, I got the idea recently upon watching ANH again, that certain looks 3PO gave toward Luke and Owen during the Jawa sale could be used later (after Ep. III comes out) to say that 3PO had all his memories intact and knew that meeting Luke and generating his interest in R2's message was part of the plan. Would you subscribe to the feasibility of such a notion?
Anything's possible dude. I'm just giving my opinion on that. It's impossible to answer until we see Episode III.

Darth Vegas
09-02-2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by T'bone+Sep 1 2003, 08:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T'bone @ Sep 1 2003, 08:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-JediJaina@Sep 2 2003, 12:20 AM
Do you think the droids had memory wipes after Episode 3?
You're referring to R2 and 3PO, I assume.

I actually do think they have them if not during Episode III, then sometime soon after. However, I'm thinking that at least 3PO will get one in this film. R2 always seems to know where he's going and what he's doing so perhaps he evaded the great wipe? [/b][/quote]
Actually GL said on E! a few years back that both droids memories are wiped by the end of Episode 3....'

http://www.episode-x.com/episode3/lucassay...yproblems.shtml (http://www.episode-x.com/episode3/lucassays/droidmemoryproblems.shtml)

Darth Vegas
09-02-2003, 01:49 PM
Yo T, what's the deal with Darth Vader gesturing his hand after he speaks to Tarkin in Episode IV, was the dialogue originally longer?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:50 PM
Awesome, thanks. I forgot about all that. Very cool.

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by TK-007@Sep 2 2003, 12:49 PM
Yo T, what's the deal with Darth Vader gesturing his hand after he speaks to Tarkin in Episode IV, was the dialogue originally longer?
Yes - all of Prowse's lines were spoken with different timing and such. Some of the lines were actually quite different as well. They had to just get it right somehow and remember, they were editing right up til the end on that film.

Darth Vegas
09-02-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by T'bone+Sep 2 2003, 08:51 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T'bone @ Sep 2 2003, 08:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-TK-007@Sep 2 2003, 12:49 PM
Yo T, what's the deal with Darth Vader gesturing his hand after he speaks to Tarkin in Episode IV, was the dialogue originally longer?
Yes - all of Prowse's lines were spoken with different timing and such. Some of the lines were actually quite different as well. They had to just get it right somehow and remember, they were editing right up til the end on that film. [/b][/quote]
Ahh, that explains that, any thoughts on why the hell they didn't fix it in the Special Edition! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

T-bone
09-02-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by TK-007@Sep 2 2003, 12:56 PM
Ahh, that explains that, any thoughts on why the hell they didn't fix it in the Special Edition! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
They didn't fix a lot of things in the SE's that needed fixing. But then again, it's not my film. It's not that big a deal really and I know you didn't notice it the very very very first time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Darth Vegas
09-02-2003, 02:00 PM
No, I didn't, but it still bugs me, fixing the lightsaber was much more important, oh wait...

Darth Vegas
09-02-2003, 08:09 PM
Yo T, do you think the CIS is the beginning of the Rebel Alliance? What did you think of what I sent you on the topic?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 08:24 PM
I haven't read what you wrote yet but i think anything's possible.
I'm not a huge fan of fan speculation, though I do post it on the site because people dig it.
I like facts.

Darth Badly
09-02-2003, 09:47 PM
Hello Mr Boss Man:

My question is;

Why can't Uncle George write funny dialogue any more?

Without going into a defense of how marvellous the prequels are etc etc and how much older I am (sic!) then when I saw the OT. I find the dialogue and general story lacking in the good natured charming humour of the original films.

Why should this be so?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 09:51 PM
I don't think that's a valid question for this forum because it's based on opinion. If you want comedy, I can refer you to something like... Star Trek.

Darth Badly
09-02-2003, 09:55 PM
Doh!

Talk about an easy cop out.

OK, then. My question is this:

After Ep III comes out - what do you think (ie I am asking your personal opinion) will happen to SW?

And to SW fandom?

Will there ever be any more films?

Does it matter if there's not?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 09:59 PM
That's a loaded question and no I don't think there will be more.

Darth Badly
09-02-2003, 10:12 PM
I'm gonna have another shot at getting a staight answer - this isn't meant to be a loaded question at all.

I tend to stay away (mostly) from the spolier section myself...

But with this Hyperspace web thingie - do you think that there's a chance that people watching it everyday will get over exposed to material coming up in Ep III and have it's cinema impact lessened or reduced?

I think it's a fair question because (from what I understand) Hyperspace and it's set diary and set cam provide live coverage of a mainstream important big budget film in a manner not really seen before.

Over all do you think this will have a good effect, or maybe make some folks to familar with Ep III's contents?

T-bone
09-02-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Darth Badly@Sep 2 2003, 09:12 PM
But with this Hyperspace web thingie - do you think that there's a chance that people watching it everyday will get over exposed to material coming up in Ep III and have it's cinema impact lessened or reduced?

Over all do you think this will have a good effect, or maybe make some folks to familar with Ep III's contents?
No I don't and it will have a good effect on the general public, yes.

AndyWanKenobi
09-03-2003, 02:21 AM
Do these questions allow ep.3 spoilers?

In your opinion is the empire xenophobic?

T-bone
09-03-2003, 02:23 AM
It's in the general area so no spoilers.

No, I don't believe that nor do I believe it will be covered in the prequels at all.

Justin
09-03-2003, 03:09 AM
Didn't T'bone's Star Wars Universe used to be T'bone Fender's Star Wars Universe? And if so, what happened to the "Fender" part?

AndyWanKenobi
09-03-2003, 03:22 AM
Is the obi wan/owen brothers connection true or no? It seems somewhat vague. I guess it is possible. Where they literally talking about Owan Lars or someone else with the name Owen? Did Lucas intend for them to be related or just EU material added to fill the pages?

DblDwn
09-03-2003, 06:36 AM
^No offense but is it just me, or do some people still just not get it?

That wasn't the question T. My question is, I assume you've seen my BIG theories, i. e. the ones I always get into trouble defending because I tend to go too far from time to time, but anyway, of the ones that are still possible, do any of these have a realistic chance, again this is your expert opinion I'm asking, of coming true? Not that I am being doubtful, because I'll still believe it regardless of what you say, but just for the doubters out there I'm curious. Regardless of whether or not you agree with them, or whether or not it is supported with what we have seen thus far in the PT, what do you honestly think?

T-bone
09-03-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Sep 3 2003, 02:09 AM
Didn't T'bone's Star Wars Universe used to be T'bone Fender's Star Wars Universe? And if so, what happened to the "Fender" part?
Now there's a question.

The answer is yes it did used to be called that. That was my moniker when I started doing stuff on the internet back around 1996 or so.

I didn't want to use my real name back then and since T-bone is a nickname I have (my last name is Tambone) I used that and then being the dork that I am, figured I needed a last name so I looked around the room and saw my Fender guitar amp sitting there and alas, the name.

Later when I made Starwarz.com and all that, I realized how silly the name sounded and decided that just plain old T'bone sounded better. I used the ' instead of the - because I figured it was more Star Warsy, since back then there were only a few EU books and most of the names had the apostrophe in them. I'm not liking that much anymore to tell the truth but I think I'm kinda stuck with it. It's not so bad - kinda unique, which is cool.

So I went the way of Sting and Bono and took one name. You can call me Lou if you want. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

T-bone
09-03-2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Andy****enobi@Sep 3 2003, 02:22 AM
Is the obi wan/owen brothers connection true or no? It seems somewhat vague. I guess it is possible. Where they literally talking about Owan Lars or someone else with the name Owen? Did Lucas intend for them to be related or just EU material added to fill the pages?
No it is not true. It was true at one point in the story writing process I believe but Lucas changed that during the prequel creation.

Yes it was Owen Lars.

He did intend it at one point, I believe. Check the ROTJ novel and stuff.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e...luke_obiwan.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep6/luke_obiwan.htm)

T-bone
09-03-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by DblDwn@Sep 3 2003, 05:36 AM
^No offense but is it just me, or do some people still just not get it?

That wasn't the question T. My question is, I assume you've seen my BIG theories, i. e. the ones I always get into trouble defending because I tend to go too far from time to time, but anyway, of the ones that are still possible, do any of these have a realistic chance, again this is your expert opinion I'm asking, of coming true? Not that I am being doubtful, because I'll still believe it regardless of what you say, but just for the doubters out there I'm curious. Regardless of whether or not you agree with them, or whether or not it is supported with what we have seen thus far in the PT, what do you honestly think?
First of all, let me say that Trent is cool. Ricky Slade is the man, though.

Anyhow, to be totally honest, as I said earlier - I'm not a big fan of fan speculation or fan fiction. I don't read it much and I haven't read all of yours. I can't comment on anything specifically but I will say that anything is possible. There is a chance (a small one) that you and Lucas had the same idea along the line. I don't know what EPISODE III is going to contain, outside of the obvious so I can't really answer this.

I will, however, say that even though I'm not a big fan of the stuff, if anyone reading this has some well-written and at least a few paragraphs long pieces of well thought out speculation you'd like me to post on the site, please send it to me. I post them in bulk from time to time.

JediKeri.
09-03-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by T'bone+Sep 3 2003, 07:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T'bone @ Sep 3 2003, 07:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Sep 3 2003, 02:09 AM
Didn't T'bone's Star Wars Universe used to be T'bone Fender's Star Wars Universe? And if so, what happened to the "Fender" part?
Now there's a question.

The answer is yes it did used to be called that. That was my moniker when I started doing stuff on the internet back around 1996 or so.

I didn't want to use my real name back then and since T-bone is a nickname I have (my last name is Tambone) I used that and then being the dork that I am, figured I needed a last name so I looked around the room and saw my Fender guitar amp sitting there and alas, the name.

Later when I made Starwarz.com and all that, I realized how silly the name sounded and decided that just plain old T'bone sounded better. I used the ' instead of the - because I figured it was more Star Warsy, since back then there were only a few EU books and most of the names had the apostrophe in them. I'm not liking that much anymore to tell the truth but I think I'm kinda stuck with it. It's not so bad - kinda unique, which is cool.

So I went the way of Sting and Bono and took one name. You can call me Lou if you want. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif [/b][/quote]
I wondered why you got rid of the Fender part of your name.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

Tovor
09-03-2003, 10:58 AM
Yeah, the Fender part was corny. You should call yourself instead, T'bone Bumper's Star Wars Universe.

Oh wait, I was referring to car parts. How about T'bone's Aqoustic Harmonic Star Wars Universal Jamborie?

JediKeri.
09-03-2003, 11:01 AM
ROFLMO!

T-bone
09-03-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Tovor@Sep 3 2003, 09:58 AM
Yeah, the Fender part was corny. You should call yourself instead, T'bone Bumper's Star Wars Universe.

Oh wait, I was referring to car parts. How about T'bone's Aqoustic Harmonic Star Wars Universal Jamborie?
How about we keep this thread on topic?

JediKeri.
09-03-2003, 11:04 AM
Sorry boss

*snickers*

Miasmo
09-03-2003, 06:46 PM
What color is C-3PO in the last scene of AotC? The sunshine makes it difficult to tell. He looks silver or maybe a slightly lighter shade of gold than what you see in ANH.

Tovor
09-03-2003, 07:01 PM
Sorry boss, bout straying off target.

Here's a valid question:
Went the Tuskens in ANH considered firing at Luke in his speeder, and then followed and attacked him, did they know that he was a member of the Lars family, and see a chance for revenge for what Anakin did in AOTC (not that they could have known that Luke was Anakin's son, but that he had come from the same homestead where Shmi had been snatched and Ani set out from after her.)?

Gazelle
09-03-2003, 08:03 PM
Mr Bone, having read through this thread, I feel I owe you an apology. It seems you have been subjected to huge doses of questions which have stretched your speculative skills rather than your great Star Wars knowledge.

Senators, please, this is not the place to quiz this busy man on whether or not Tarkin was married, or to discuss the midichlorian count of Greedo. Can't we have some genuine fact based "possible to find out by research" type questions?

On that thought, Bone ole boy, do you have an answer as yet to my "Scriptless stairway" question? Or at least to point me to some research materials. Thanks.

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Miasma@Sep 3 2003, 05:46 PM
What color is C-3PO in the last scene of AotC? The sunshine makes it difficult to tell. He looks silver or maybe a slightly lighter shade of gold than what you see in ANH.
You're right - it is too hard to tell.
Check some pics maybe?

Ask Pablo in the chat tonight!

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Tovor@Sep 3 2003, 06:01 PM
Sorry boss, bout straying off target.

Here's a valid question:
Went the Tuskens in ANH considered firing at Luke in his speeder, and then followed and attacked him, did they know that he was a member of the Lars family, and see a chance for revenge for what Anakin did in AOTC (not that they could have known that Luke was Anakin's son, but that he had come from the same homestead where Shmi had been snatched and Ani set out from after her.)?
First of all - how the hell would I know that??

Secondly, and I'll venture an opinion, I think those are a whole different batch of Tuskens.

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 3 2003, 07:03 PM
On that thought, Bone ole boy, do you have an answer as yet to my "Scriptless stairway" question? Or at least to point me to some research materials. Thanks.
You'll have to refresh my memory on that one.

Obidobi
09-03-2003, 08:15 PM
T'Bone....
What is the "markings" in the roof at the Lars's home?
Was it the same in Shmi and Anakins home at Mos Espa?
Do you know what it means?
Is it a sith marking, or is it just a common roof decoration?

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Obidobi@Sep 3 2003, 07:15 PM

What is the "markings" in the roof at the Lars's home?

It's called set decoration.

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Obidobi@Sep 3 2003, 07:15 PM
Was it the same in Shmi and Anakins home at Mos Espa?
Do you know what it means?
Is it a sith marking, or is it just a common roof decoration?
Probably not.

No.

and um...dude, it's a movie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Obidobi
09-03-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 4 2003, 01:23 AM


and um...dude, it's a movie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
It is..? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

Why do you think R2's power jets don't work in the OT?

Gazelle
09-03-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by T'bone+Sep 4 2003, 12:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T'bone @ Sep 4 2003, 12:09 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gazelle@Sep 3 2003, 07:03 PM
On that thought, Bone ole boy, do you have an answer as yet to my "Scriptless stairway" question? Or at least to point me to some research materials. Thanks.
You'll have to refresh my memory on that one. [/b][/quote]
It was the first question in the thread. I basically asked if the "Vader searches for Luke under the stairs" scene in ROTJ was shot without any specific written dialogue and if the whole "You have a twin sister" idea was added later (to the script itself, not just the soundtrack).

Please check my original couple of postings for my reasons to suggest this.

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Obidobi+Sep 3 2003, 07:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Obidobi @ Sep 3 2003, 07:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-T'bone@Sep 4 2003, 01:23 AM


and um...dude, it's a movie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
It is..? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

Why do you think R2's power jets don't work in the OT? [/b][/quote]
That's been explained already I believe - look around sw.com.
Something about this or that expiring after so many years...

T-bone
09-03-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle+Sep 3 2003, 07:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gazelle @ Sep 3 2003, 07:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 4 2003, 12:09 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Gazelle@Sep 3 2003, 07:03 PM
On that thought, Bone ole boy, do you have an answer as yet to my "Scriptless stairway" question? Or at least to point me to some research materials. Thanks.
You'll have to refresh my memory on that one.
It was the first question in the thread. I basically asked if the "Vader searches for Luke under the stairs" scene in ROTJ was shot without any specific written dialogue and if the whole "You have a twin sister" idea was added later (to the script itself, not just the soundtrack).

Please check my original couple of postings for my reasons to suggest this. [/b][/quote]
No I don't know the answer to this, sorry.
All I know is on the link I provided in my original answer.

I wasn't there when they shot it, unfortunately.

Gazelle
09-03-2003, 08:45 PM
Okay

Darth Vegas
09-03-2003, 08:48 PM
(Sorry to intrude but...) Obidobi, the paintings are native Tunisian paintings, the one at the Homestead already exsisted when Lucas chose to shoot at that location in Tunisia Africa, for visual continuity Lucas had them make a similar painting in the Skywalker Hovel set, the paintings have nothing to do with Darth Maul if that's where you were going with that.

Justin
09-04-2003, 05:22 AM
You know what, we should probably all wait until T'bone has answered the previous question before asking him another one.

(and I thought the "Fender" thing was pretty cool)

Gazelle
09-04-2003, 06:31 PM
Good idea

Darth Vegas
09-04-2003, 06:34 PM
What previous question?

Javen
09-06-2003, 01:25 PM
What do you think the reasoning behind Vader not knowing about Leia? Think it will be somehwhat touched on in EPIII?

T-bone
09-06-2003, 02:11 PM
Yes I think it will be touched upon but I have no idea the reason behind it. I think it's just the way the other films played out and now Lucas has to try to have it make sense. I honestly don't think when they did ANH that Lucas had a definite plan for luke and leia being brother and sister. I feel he knew the Vader/Luke thing all along but the sister thing, I think he went back and forth on for a while. So it's like...plug along and we'll take care of it when the time comes. Now these movies have been taken apart line by line and analyzed so it's going to be really hard for him to have it all make sense, but I think it'll be ok.

Javen
09-07-2003, 10:29 AM
Yeah I agree. I'm not really complaining. I just wondered what you thought. The movies are fine but, if Lucas could just have it shown or talked about a bit then it would at least make a little more sense. But even if he don't that is okay as well.

DblDwn
09-08-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Sep 4 2003, 01:22 AM
You know what, we should probably all wait until T'bone has answered the previous question before asking him another one.

Hey Justin, you got a little brown smudge on your nose there. You want to wipe that off before it drips onto your lip? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

T-bone
09-08-2003, 02:52 PM
http://www.galacticsenate.com/uploads/post-18-1062909655.jpg

...and I agree with him.

DblDwn
09-08-2003, 04:26 PM
I wasn't implying that he was wrong.

The funny thing is that what he said should just be attributed to common sense but he still had to say it because some people didn't realize it.

T-bone
09-08-2003, 04:27 PM
and once again I say,

http://www.galacticsenate.com/uploads/post-18-1062909655.jpg

DblDwn
09-08-2003, 04:34 PM
There isn't a discussion on this site where the topic is maintained 100% of the time so I don't know why you would expect this one to be any different.

But.......I'll ask a question to appease the masses

Do you have any theories on who the new bad guy may be?

Gazelle
09-08-2003, 04:35 PM
Okay, Bone ole boy. What on earth prompted the creation of the "Star Wars Holiday Special" and were the producers and writers ever successfully prosecuted?

T-bone
09-08-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by DblDwn@Sep 8 2003, 03:34 PM
There isn't a discussion on this site where the topic is maintained 100% of the time so I don't know why you would expect this one to be any different.

But.......I'll ask a question to appease the masses

Do you have any theories on who the new bad guy may be?
1. You're killing me here with that attitude. A simple OK will do.

2. No I don't.

T-bone
09-08-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 8 2003, 03:35 PM
Okay, Bone ole boy. What on earth prompted the creation of the "Star Wars Holiday Special" and were the producers and writers ever successfully prosecuted?
It was mainly meant for kids, I believe and at the time, it was fun. I remember seeing it on TV when I was around 8 or so. It's not something that you're supposed to love and grow with as an adult like we do with the films.

Just let it go, man...

Darth Vegas
09-08-2003, 05:32 PM
For the sake of those who confuse Lando's backwards outfit during the scene where Han tells him to take the Falcon as a mistake, as well as all those scenes with Boba's backward helmet, would you be so kind to explain this phenomenon?

Gazelle
09-08-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by DblDwn@Sep 8 2003, 08:34 PM
I'll ask a question to appease the masses


On behalf of the masses, may I say, "We are appeased!"

T-bone
09-08-2003, 05:40 PM
Refresh my memory here...

Gazelle
09-08-2003, 05:43 PM
Okay, here's my next question (and please don't hit me on the wrist yet again Bone!)

We keep hearing about the next round of Episode III shooting, scheduled for the early part of next year.

Do you know if this shooting will take place in Sydney or will it be shot somewhere else?

Darth Vegas
09-08-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 8 2003, 12:40 PM
Refresh my memory here...
Who me?

Ya' know how Lando's gun and badge continuously change places from one shoulder to the other in that scene?

T-bone
09-08-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 8 2003, 04:43 PM
Do you know if this shooting will take place in Sydney or will it be shot somewhere else?
LOL - How would I know that?

I actually thought these questions were going to be about the existing films and stuff. I really don't know much about Episode III, unfortunately. Not yet, anyhow.

T-bone
09-08-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by TK-007+Sep 8 2003, 04:49 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Sep 8 2003, 04:49 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-T'bone@Sep 8 2003, 12:40 PM
Refresh my memory here...
Who me?

Ya' know how Lando's gun and badge continuously change places from one shoulder to the other in that scene? [/b][/quote]
Ok yea - well there is this thing they do when making a film sometimes where they flip the footage for whatever reason. They also combine takes sometimes and things move around. I'm sure there's a logistical reason for it. I'd say it has to do with flipping the footage, like in TPM when Obi-Wan's braid is on the wrong side that one time. They do this a lot actually...

Darth Vegas
09-08-2003, 05:55 PM
Makes sense to me, thanks T'bone.

Brian
09-08-2003, 07:03 PM
T'Bone,

In TESB, when Luke knicks Vader's arm does Vader say, "Arg! How remarkable!"

Bond and I have been back and forth on this for a while. What do you think?

Thanks,

b

T-bone
09-08-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Sep 8 2003, 06:03 PM
T'Bone,

In TESB, when Luke knicks Vader's arm does Vader say, "Arg! How remarkable!"

Bond and I have been back and forth on this for a while. What do you think?

Thanks,

b
No I don't belive so.

Darth Vegas
09-08-2003, 08:10 PM
Well turn it up loud if you have to because he does say something. Might only be on the SE.

Brian
09-08-2003, 08:19 PM
Yeah. Turn it up loud (is there an echo in here?). I was sketical at first too.

T-bone
09-08-2003, 08:20 PM
I don't think I'm really qualified to answer this then. However, I'll stick to my guns and say he's just grumbling.

Darth Vegas
09-08-2003, 08:22 PM
I wish Ben Burtt would answer this on SW.com already! (must have asked about 5 times already myself and I know OBG asked too).

Hopefully, they'll do a celeb chat with him and then we can ask there.

Javen
09-10-2003, 11:35 AM
Is it true that Lucas changed the scene in ESB to the Wampa/Hoth scene because Mark Hamill got in an accident? And would you happen to know the original scene it was suppose to be?

T-bone
09-10-2003, 12:46 PM
I personally don't believe that anything was replaced. Perhaps added or changed but I think that was always part of the plan, having Luke be rescued. When you think about it, it's a pretty big chuck of reel 1 so that's a little much to have to "write in" because someone had a car accident.

I think it just worked out conveniently. I don't know the real story but perhaps a wampa was supposed to just capture luke and maybe Lucas said something like - well since he's had the facial scars already, let's have the wampa slap him in the face. Probably something to that effect.

However - I really have no idea. If I ever get the chance to talk to Lucas or Kershner, I will definitely ask about that.


In the meantime, enjoy this page:

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e...wampas_lair.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep5/wampas_lair.htm)

StarWarsFan1
09-10-2003, 03:01 PM
In esb when they are zaping han before the carbon freeze, vader said that it would be unforutinate if he had to leave the garson there. Who in the world is the garson?

T-bone
09-10-2003, 05:36 PM
He says, Garrison. That's a garrison of stormtroopers and stuff like that.

Main Entry: 1gar·ri·son
Pronunciation: 'gar-&-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English garisoun protection, from Old French garison, from garir to protect, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werien to defend -- more at WEIR
Date: 15th century
1 : a military post; especially : a permanent military installation
2 : the troops stationed at a garrison

Darth Darthy
09-10-2003, 07:09 PM
Dear Mr T,
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I really have no idea.[/b][/quote]

It's not very good is it? I thought you where the human encyclodpedia of Star Wars but obviously my confidence was misplaced.

I shall go home and weep openly. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif

T-bone
09-10-2003, 07:13 PM
I'm assuming you know how to read...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't pretend to be any official source or last word on the subject. Please understand that I might be wrong here and there. I will tell you however when I'm injecting opinion or speculation into my answers.[/b][/quote]

Darth Darthy
09-10-2003, 07:17 PM
No, I'm still a grade 2 reader although my teacher says I'm getting better, particularly with Clifford the Big Red Dog - Volume 2 - Clifford in Heat.

But still - if you don't know it - who/what does?!?*

*George Lucas is exempt from this question cause he still won't reply to my letters. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Darth Badly
09-10-2003, 09:30 PM
My question is this:

Why aren't there more monkeys in SW films? Surely monkeys would be cheaper than battle droids, they can climb better than battle droids, and (with patience) be taught to use a blaster better than most Clone/Stormtroopers.

Do you think we will see Palpy unleash an army of trained Sith monkeys against the Jedi in Episode III?

It is something I have dreamed about for many years, please pass down your wisdom on this monkey-related question.

Thank you.

T-bone
09-10-2003, 09:34 PM
Maybe you should audition.

I don't appreciate you wasting everyone's time here with this. Someone asked me to open this thread to try and help out, now I'm thinking about closing it because it's getting silly.

Darth Badly
09-10-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 11 2003, 01:34 AM
Maybe you should audition.

I don't appreciate you wasting everyone's time here with this. Someone asked me to open this thread to try and help out, now I'm thinking about closing it because it's getting silly.

It was only a little humour.

Apologies.

???

Tovor
09-10-2003, 09:44 PM
C'mon peeps, this is not a joke thread. You want to make jokes and get sarcasm answered back go to my answer thread. This is a question and answer thread for serious Star Wars questions.

Darth Vegas
09-10-2003, 10:06 PM
Where's the fabled tennis shoe during the Space Battle in Return of the Jedi? Any idea T?

T-bone
09-10-2003, 10:08 PM
It's really hard to tell. I think there's some stuff in the ESB asteroids too.
I've never really seen it.

http://www.eeggs.com/items/12246.html

Justin
09-11-2003, 12:39 AM
Dennis Muren said the tennis shoe in ROTJ flies by too fast for anyone to make it out, and the potato that was used in the asteroid field is also impossible to spot.

Sorry T'bone, I didn't mean to step on your toes or anything, but I thought maybe you might be interested too.

T-bone
09-15-2003, 01:41 PM
Not a problem, thanks. Like I said, I'm no expert in every area of SW stuff. I look up a lot of things in the books I have just to be sure. I have a good memory for some things, but other things get lost and I have to look them up. I do my best, though.

T-bone
09-17-2003, 12:34 PM
Next.

Gazelle
09-17-2003, 06:58 PM
T, can you comment on the rumour that in original discussions, even script, that Lando and the Falcon were going to be blown up in the ROTJ Death Star attack?

T-bone
09-17-2003, 07:15 PM
I've actually commented on this at length here:


http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/t...falcon_yuma.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/trash_compactor/falcon_yuma.htm)

Gazelle
09-18-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by T'bone@Sep 17 2003, 11:15 PM
I've actually commented on this at length here:


http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/t...falcon_yuma.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/trash_compactor/falcon_yuma.htm)
er...... are you sure?

T-bone
09-18-2003, 10:32 AM
Am I sure about what? Is it fake? Yes it is.

Gazelle
09-18-2003, 11:17 AM
No, I meant are you sure that was the link you wanted to give me.

Not much about Lando's death on that page.

T-bone
09-18-2003, 11:22 AM
OH LOL!!! SORRY!!

Here:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/t...lcon_demise.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/trash_compactor/falcon_demise.htm)

the debunked stuff is here too:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/t...rash_compactor/ (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/trash_compactor/)

Gazelle
09-18-2003, 11:36 AM
hehe Boney. The darkside clouds everything....

Miasmo
09-21-2003, 05:22 PM
This is kind of a Star Wars question.

How much did George Lucas have to do with making Howard the Duck?

T-bone
09-21-2003, 06:04 PM
i believe he was exec producer, no?

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0091225/fullcredits

Anguirus111
09-21-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Miasma@Sep 21 2003, 03:22 PM
This is kind of a Star Wars question.

How much did George Lucas have to do with making Howard the Duck?
More than he'd care to admit. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Darth Vegas
09-21-2003, 06:43 PM
I doubt that, simply because he was involved with a bunch of other films around that time.

http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/detail/celeb/196373

jeffmac501
09-22-2003, 12:19 PM
Question, I just looked at a trailer for EpII that I had downloaded before the movie came out or even had a title. I didn't recognize that many of the scenes.
At the end it shows the stars of the film,included in this list are Gabriel Byrne
and Christopher Walken,which you see both of them in this trailer.Were they
in the film and just cut out,or did somebody just make a heck of trailer to have
fun with people?

T-bone
09-22-2003, 12:24 PM
Fake.

I actually interviewed the dude for fun here:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/interviews/a...nondirector.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/interviews/anondirector.htm)

Sluggo
09-25-2003, 02:03 AM
Sup, T!

Maybe you could chew on this for a while. It seems that one of the worst things that the Jedi messed up was Mace Windu killing Jango Fett. The Jedi knew he was partly responsible for the clone army and in cahoots with Sifo-Dyas and some guy called Tyranus. At the same time, Jango also was a hired gun for Dooku and in league with the Confederacy of Independant Systems. It should have been pretty obvious that he was playing both sides. If they captured him, ... well, Palpatine probably would have given him a presidential pardon anyways.
Thoughts?

T-bone
09-25-2003, 08:47 AM
While I do agree with your points, and that was the original plan - to bring him in for questioning, I think Mace was in a bind and acted in self defense. Jango is a badass and he would not stop until he killed Mace, and Mace knew that. Plus there were a thousand other things going on at that moment and Mace couldn't be tied up for too long.

It all falls under the reasons for the fall of the Jedi, I guess.

Javen
09-25-2003, 12:28 PM
What is the deal with the Emperor's look in ESB via holgram? He looked like this one guy from Leave it to beaver. I think his name was Fred.

T-bone
09-25-2003, 12:36 PM
It's actually an old woman with monkey eyes placed over the real ones in post. Interesting, eh? Clive Revill did the voice though.

Ian McDiarmid wasn't cast until ROTJ was getting ready to shoot.

Javen
09-25-2003, 12:41 PM
That's cool. I didn't know that.

Gazelle
09-25-2003, 07:08 PM
T Bone, what was the name of the monkey who "did" the eyes and do you know if he did any other movies? I'm sure I recognise him from "Tarzan of the Apes."

Gazelle
09-25-2003, 07:41 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif just a joke style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Gazelle
09-25-2003, 08:04 PM
Actually for absolutely years I thought that the Emperor was played by a beardless Alec Guiness in ESB.

Shows how wrong a man can be.

T-bone
09-25-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Sep 25 2003, 06:08 PM
T Bone, what was the name of the monkey who "did" the eyes and do you know if he did any other movies?
It's Josh something...

Blizzard
09-25-2003, 08:26 PM
Griffin? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

T-bone
09-25-2003, 08:27 PM
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

Next question!

Gazelle
09-25-2003, 08:45 PM
Great.

Luvinna
09-27-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by TK-007@Sep 10 2003, 07:06 PM
Where's the fabled tennis shoe during the Space Battle in Return of the Jedi? Any idea T?
Yeah. I figured that since Insider #71 is shipping this weekend, it was about time I read issue #70. :look: This letter was printed in the Rebel Rumblings on pg 76:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>If the Shoe Fits...
I was reading Star Wars Insider #67 last night an noticed that on page 28 under Freeze Frame Fun, #64 Running Gag you ask for the location of the tennis shoe in Return of the Jedi.

Back in 1989, I spent many hours looking for it but couldn't find it. Then about two months later I was working on a project and had the movie playing, but not really paying attention to it. I just happened to have glanced up at the TV, and there it was! Many rewinds, slow motion forwards, and pauses later I was convinced I found it. The real kick in in the pants is that I don't believe that the shoe was "hidden in the background," but actually takes up most of the screen.

Just after Lando tells Wege to look out for "three from above," follow Wedge as he targets the TIE interceptor. A blockade runner and transport will come into the picture as the TIE is destroyed. The next large ship coming into the shot from the upper right corner is what you're looking for. I made a few screen captures for you, but it really helps to see it in motion.

To me, it appears as if it is the side and bottom of the tread in extreme close up, probably touched up with some weathering effects to help it blend in. Well, that's my theory anyway. If someone could confirm it officially, that would make my day.
DENNIS HEINZEROTH
Ebensburg, PA

We can't get anyone to confirm the shoe, but we can't get anyone to deny it, either. Where's Cinderella when you really need her?[/b][/quote]

I've attached a pic of the screen capture they printed in the magazine. I'm pretty convinced. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

Momin327
09-27-2003, 03:49 PM
Hi, T'bone. I got a question: How long did Jabba have Leia in enslavement before Luke showed up? (I know I started a thread about this, but I haven't gotten a definite answer.)

T-bone
09-28-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Momin327@Sep 27 2003, 02:49 PM
Hi, T'bone. I got a question: How long did Jabba have Leia in enslavement before Luke showed up? (I know I started a thread about this, but I haven't gotten a definite answer.)
I'm not so sure there is a definite answer to that one, which might be why you're having trouble getting one. I'd say this is a question for someone like Pablo or Paul Ens who have ample material and access to things I don't have access to. I think they can find you a better answer than anything I can guess. Sorry about that.

Guess from me? I'd say not very long, maybe a few days (if that) but I'm thinking in terms of the flow of the film. I'm sure everyone has different opinions.

Darth Vegas
09-28-2003, 12:59 AM
That looks like right on the left sjide there. Thank Luvinna! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Gazelle
09-28-2003, 05:56 PM
Boney, can you comment on the rumour that the "Padme on the sand" scene has been altered for the dvd. In the movie theatre she said, "Yes." In the dvd she says, "Uh uh"

T-bone
09-28-2003, 06:01 PM
what exactly would you like me to say?
this is more of an ask/answer thing - not a comment on this or that.
i think...

Gazelle
09-28-2003, 06:38 PM
Not at all - someone mentioned it in a thread. I wondered if you'd heard of this.

Blizzard
09-28-2003, 08:27 PM
I have been thinking (which might be a bad thing). I was wondering if the prophecy of Anakin bringing balance to the Force means killing all the Jedi leaving only two, Obi and Yoda, as in "only two there are" like the Sith, thereby balancing the Force...

Also, how does Jedi Joclad Danva die? Some sites have him as dead, but the Official Site says he survived the arena battle in AotC.

T-bone
09-28-2003, 09:02 PM
Question 1: You'll have to ask George.

Question 2: You'll have to ask Pablo. I hate EU. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

And yes you think too much.

Blizzard
09-28-2003, 09:20 PM
Darn, I thought you had all the answers. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Too bad Pablo is too famous now to talk to.

Sluggo
10-02-2003, 04:24 AM
A quickie:
How can the Gonk droid in Jabba's palace feel pain while it's feet are being burned? That's whack.

Gazelle
10-02-2003, 06:20 AM
2 TPM Quesions

1. In the "watch your career with great interest" scene, is that a fake Sam Jackson that comes out of the ship and stands in the background or are we supposed to think that this is some other character?

2. In the Obi Wan is a Jedi Knight scene, is Yoda saying that the council agreed that he could train Anakin but that he personally disagreed?

T-bone
10-02-2003, 09:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>A quickie:
How can the Gonk droid in Jabba's palace feel pain while it's feet are being burned? That's whack. [/b][/quote]

To be totally honest with you, that one has ALWAYS bothered me from when I was younger. I have no answer to that other than it was an idea they came up with to add a little gag and drama to the situation. It makes the already 3PO more nervous and it's a little funny to hear that guy screaming.

Personally, I don't like the idea but ya know, the EU folks will make up some story like:

Gonk droids have special sensors in their feet and were part of some early prototype droids whose makers were testing the effects of human emotions in droids. It was later decided that droids should not feel pain and most of the droids were destroyed, except a few gonk droids which Jabba purchased from the Black Market.

See how easy it is?
Take that, Pablo!

T-bone
10-02-2003, 09:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>1. In the "watch your career with great interest" scene, is that a fake Sam Jackson that comes out of the ship and stands in the background or are we supposed to think that this is some other character?[/b][/quote]

I guess you could say that. It's supposed to be Mace, ya. Sam wasn't available for these pickup shots. This scene was filmed later on.

T-bone
10-02-2003, 09:02 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>2. In the Obi Wan is a Jedi Knight scene, is Yoda saying that the council agreed that he could train Anakin but that he personally disagreed?[/b][/quote]

Yes, I believe that he was probably voted out by the council somehow. I think he already had the decision to let him train Anakin but was still, at the 11th hour, trying to dissuade him from doing it. At the end, he gives in knowing the decision was already made.

At least that's how I see it...I could be wrong.

Darth Vegas
10-02-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 2 2003, 04:00 AM
It's supposed to be Mace, ya. Sam wasn't available for these pickup shots. This scene was filmed later on.
With Ahmed Best filling in of all people... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

T-bone
10-02-2003, 11:56 AM
are you joking? i don't think that's him there.

Darth Vegas
10-02-2003, 12:00 PM
No joke. I believe it even says so on the dvd somewhere.

T-bone
10-02-2003, 12:03 PM
No kidding?! I didn't know that. I thought they just used a stand in.
Learn something new every day.

Darth Vegas
10-02-2003, 01:01 PM
Actually, I don't retract my statement cause' I clearly remember hearing that, but I can't seem to find the source, so don't take my word for it, although looking at the scene it does appear to be him, if you look closely. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif

T-bone
10-02-2003, 01:03 PM
well if you find it let me know.
i've never heard of that before and now i'm curious.

Next!

Gazelle
10-02-2003, 02:13 PM
Wow! That is Ahmed! I have this superzoom facility on my dvd and its almost definitely him, although sadly the commentary only mentions the production team cameos.

Well done TK!

Gazelle
10-06-2003, 10:18 PM
Ok Boney, sticking with "The Phantom Menace," on the special features of the DVD there is a mini trailer which has a lot of extra Darth Maul dialogue. I am sure you know what I mean, something about fear being his ally, etc. Couple of questions:

1. Was this shown on TV in the USA during comercials to advertise the movie? We certainly didn't see this in the UK.

2. As far as you know, were these Maul lines especially written for this, or have they come from a deleted scene of some kind? Mr Maul seemed to have more dialogue in this mini trailer than in the whole of the real movie!

T-bone
10-06-2003, 10:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>. Was this shown on TV in the USA during comercials to advertise the movie? We certainly didn't see this in the UK. [/b][/quote]

I believe so, yes but I can't say for sure. I "think" I remember seeing it but I know there are still people who "think" they saw the deleted Biggs footage in theaters and there are those who "think" they saw A NEW HOPE before the crawl in 1977...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>2. As far as you know, were these Maul lines especially written for this, or have they come from a deleted scene of some kind? Mr Maul seemed to have more dialogue in this mini trailer than in the whole of the real movie![/b][/quote]

Yes I believe they were done for these "Tone Poems" and for advertising purposes. Again, the official site people are the ones that can really confirm this. My educated guess, however, is that when they had the actors back in for ADR and looping, they gave them these little bits to read. I could be wrong though.

Justin
10-06-2003, 11:20 PM
I think you are right. And that was a cool commercial. Too bad Darth Maul's character isn't explored like that in the film. It's almost false advertising, isn't it?

Gazelle
10-06-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 7 2003, 02:26 AM
Again, the official site people are the ones that can really confirm this.
The official site people don't answer any questions!

T-bone
10-06-2003, 11:35 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The official site people don't answer any questions! [/b][/quote]

Then I shall do my best!

Next!

Darth Vegas
10-06-2003, 11:39 PM
Is it true that during the scene in Jedi where Luke levitates 3po, Peter Mayhew is seen in the background with the mask off?

T-bone
10-06-2003, 11:43 PM
Mask off? No, I don't think so.

I think what you're referring to is a quick shot of Chewbacca poking his head out in the background of that scene, BEFORE he's actually released from his bonds.

Javen
10-07-2003, 02:47 PM
Do you now why GL specifically used a black cloak for Luke in the begining of ROTJ? He almost resembled the Emperor walking down inside Jabba's place. I think he looks really cool. But then he never uses it again through out the movie. Maybe it was to give him an intimidating look.

And do you think Anakin will have that same look in EPIII? We know he has the hair pretty close.

T-bone
10-07-2003, 02:52 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you now why GL specifically used a black cloak for Luke in the begining of ROTJ?[/b][/quote]

I can't say for sure but I don't think there was anything crazy behind it. It's probably some visual connection to his father or something like that but ultimately, it just looked cooler to me. That's a GL question.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>And do you think Anakin will have that same look in EPIII? We know he has the hair pretty close. [/b][/quote]

See, this is weird to me. I think Anakin's hair doesn't really look like Luke's that much. It's shaggy and longer than Luke's to me. Anakin's outfit has already been sort of revealed so I'm not sure what else to say about his robes and stuff. He's ovboiusly going darker and darker as the films go on.

Lucas has to show that ultimately Anakin and Luke follow the same circle but make a different choice as to what to do when the time comes so yea they're gonna look alike, but only to subconsciously tie the two people together in your mind, I feel.

Javen
10-07-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 7 2003, 12:52 PM
See, this is weird to me. I think Anakin's hair doesn't really look like Luke's that much. It's shaggy and longer than Luke's to me.
I think what I mean is they have the same hair look, as in it's parted the same.

T-bone
10-07-2003, 03:01 PM
Somewhat yea but i mean, i wouldn't go racking my brain over it.

As Anakin starts to break down, he becomes more confused, disheveled, etc. It's all a visual element that plays out in the back of your mind. Good stuff.

Javen
10-07-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 7 2003, 01:01 PM
It's all a visual element that plays out in the back of your mind. Good stuff.
You're right. Awsome stuff! I can't wait for EPIII. So my brain can try and take it all in that night I see it.

Darth Vegas
10-07-2003, 06:02 PM
Has Lucas ever said anything about the meaning of the name Darth? Has he ever confirmed that Darth Vader was derived from the words dark and father from other languages?

T-bone
10-07-2003, 07:20 PM
I dont know offhand but someone in another thread here mentioned it. Check it out in google or something style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Darth_Vortex
10-07-2003, 08:53 PM
T-bone I have been looking all over the net for the correct spelling of Nute Gunrays aid in Attack of the Clones!

And no it isn't...

Lott Dodd or Rune Haako!

The Movie credits: lists Lott Dodd

The Visual Dictionary: Gilmros Lambrika (sp)

Novel says: Rune Haako


Besides they reused Daultay Dofine's mask for this character (Gilmros Lambirka (sp))

So what is the correct spelling? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

T-bone
10-07-2003, 09:17 PM
There's a whole thing going on with that. Pablo's the man to ask but from what I understand, Lucas insists that it's Rune all the way and he'll be in EP3 too.

I think Pablo's words to me when I asked him about this were, "Visual Dictionary be damned."

Remember kids - what Lucas says, goes. Even if the voice is all wrong style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Frendon
10-08-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 6 2003, 08:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>2. As far as you know, were these Maul lines especially written for this, or have they come from a deleted scene of some kind? Mr Maul seemed to have more dialogue in this mini trailer than in the whole of the real movie!

Yes I believe they were done for these "Tone Poems" and for advertising purposes. Again, the official site people are the ones that can really confirm this. My educated guess, however, is that when they had the actors back in for ADR and looping, they gave them these little bits to read. I could be wrong though. [/b][/quote]
Anakin was supposed to speak similar lines after his confrontation with Sebulba in the market place, explaining how he overcomed his fear to Padme , I remember reading it in the screenplay-book i think, and i remembered the maul trailer, so i think when they cut the scene from the movie they decided to give those same lines to Maul for that tv spot.

Darth Darthy
10-10-2003, 10:38 PM
1) Did they ever actually film Luke building and plopping his lightsaber into Artoo in the cave or is it just a storyboard (ROTJ)?

2) Is it true the reason General Veers death couldn't be filmed (AT-AT speeder crash into head thing) was cause the sky background fell off and they didn't notice? I find that implausible, how could they NOT notice that?

T-bone
10-11-2003, 02:33 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>1) Did they ever actually film Luke building and plopping his lightsaber into Artoo in the cave or is it just a storyboard (ROTJ)?[/b][/quote]

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e..._lightsaber.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep6/construct_lightsaber.htm)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>2) Is it true the reason General Veers death couldn't be filmed (AT-AT speeder crash into head thing) was cause the sky background fell off and they didn't notice? [/b][/quote]

I think you're referring to this:

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e...educed_role.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep5/atst_reduced_role.htm)

Miasmo
10-11-2003, 03:56 PM
Were the titles to Episodes 1 or 2 leaked before they were officially announced? If so, how early were they leaked?

T-bone
10-11-2003, 06:06 PM
If they were, I never saw them. Fron what I remember, no site has ever leaked the titles to the films. They were announced by Lucasfilm which goes to show you that when they REALLY want to, they can keep stuff a secret. I just don't think they think about security as much as fans think they do.

Gazelle
10-11-2003, 06:15 PM
As a supplementary question, can you remember at what stage in production the title was announced? I seem to recall it was quite late.

T-bone
10-11-2003, 06:26 PM
http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/news/199...ws19980925.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/news/1998/09/news19980925.html)

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20010806.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html)

Gazelle
10-11-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 11 2003, 10:26 PM
http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/news/199...ws19980925.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/news/1998/09/news19980925.html)

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20010806.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html)
Going by past history then, we might anticipate hearing the new title in August/September 2004. Thanks Boney.

Darth Darthy
10-11-2003, 08:27 PM
Do you think Mark Hamill resents his Star Wars heritage?
I only ask because he does voice overs for lots of animations and quite a few games too. It just seems odd that he has never participated in any role in the LucasArts range (regardless of whether it's Luke) and I might be biased but I think he's good at voice overs. He should've been Guybrush.

I just wanted your impression because I'm sure you've met him once or twice.

Miasmo
10-11-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Darth Darthy@Oct 11 2003, 06:27 PM
It just seems odd that he has never participated in any role in the LucasArts range (regardless of whether it's Luke)
I was thinking the same thing the other day when playing Jedi Academy.

T-bone
10-11-2003, 08:57 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you think Mark Hamill resents his Star Wars heritage? [/b][/quote]

Opinion? No I don't think he does.
He probably hates overzealous fans...but then again so do I style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
And no I have never met him.

Gazelle
10-13-2003, 10:41 AM
Hey Bone, I am sure you have been asked this question before but which of the five SW movies is the best in your view?

Are you an OT or PT kind of guy, etc?

T-bone
10-13-2003, 11:29 AM
I absolutely love the prequels, including EP1 which many people didn't like. However I definitely am an OT person. Those are the films I grew up watching and the ones that had a lasting impression on me. I see them as one big film so it's hard to pick on favorite. I usually flip back and forth between ANH and ESB as a favorite. ANH has that fast paced, innocent feel to it with lots of great characters and aliens we see for the first time. ESB is more adult themed and dark and I love the feel and the effects, plus the drama and the duels...it's hard to beat that film.

Right now, it's EMPIRE for me. When I have to pick one of the films to watch, it's usually that although I've been watching JEDI a lot lately. It really depends on what my kid feels like watching. He likes the ewoks and I like the Emperor stuff so JEDI has been playing a lot. He loves Jar Jar and the Pod Race and R2 so sometimes we watch Ep1, but he also loves the Acklay, Nexu and Reek so we watch EP2 when we can. It's really a toss up but for me, I think EMPIRE is the one with everything you wanna see. However it's a cliffhanger so you don't get that full feeling of satisfaction when it's over.

This is going on way to long. I love ESB and that's my decision for today. That changes from time to time.

Gazelle
10-13-2003, 01:30 PM
T, I recall you said that the "Fire Captain" made a webcam appearance. Any chance of a definite time and date?

T-bone
10-13-2003, 04:28 PM
http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?sh...pic=5312&st=120 (http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?showtopic=5312&st=120)

Gazelle
10-14-2003, 08:01 PM
Don't laugh at me, but is there more than one ART thread section on this site? I keep hearing people refer to their art thread and I can't find them!!!

T-bone
10-14-2003, 08:07 PM
Fan Artwork is the only section for SW related art.
Try the search function.

Sluggo
10-14-2003, 08:55 PM
T-bone,
Maybe you can help me figure out the whole Palpatine/Sidious Debate. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

I mean, why are people having the debate at all? Is it just a refusal to grasp the obvious or something more subtle...elsewhere...elusive.

Your pal,
Sluggo

T-bone
10-14-2003, 09:05 PM
It's called speculation by people who don't know the story yet.

Healthy, as long as it's not hurtful to people.

Sluggo
10-14-2003, 09:14 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It's called speculation by people who don't know the story yet.

Healthy, as long as it's not hurtful to people.[/b][/quote]

Maybe I've been on these boards for too long. It starts to look the same after a while. Or maybe that's just me.

Gazelle
10-15-2003, 02:53 PM
In ESB when C3PO is shot on cloud city, are we supposed to think that Boba Fett did it? I know he wakes up to speak of stormtroopers, but the off screen voice that says "Who are you?" sounds like Fett.

Any ideas?

T-bone
10-15-2003, 05:01 PM
I never liked that voice but to me it sounds like perhaps a stormtrooper with no helmet on. It didn't have that typical trooper "in the helmet" sound.

Also, there might have been say, 2 troopers and an officer in there? Who knows. It's off screen so we can't say for sure. Maybe that's a Pablo question.

Gazelle
10-15-2003, 05:19 PM
hehe - probably Ben Burtt's voice anyway....

Darth Vegas
10-18-2003, 03:54 AM
T'bone, am I correct in saying that Ben Burtt added certain sound effects to the vioces of Darth Vader, 3po, and many other alien and masked characters? Like certain effects to make the vioces have the electronic quality to them and all that?

T-bone
10-20-2003, 09:05 PM
Yes

Darth Darthy
10-22-2003, 05:34 PM
There's a thread in the Classic section around here that made me remember something that I don't think I ever read a straight answer for:

What are the Emperors Slugs? Surely they can't be there just to stop some light leaking onto Palpys ear?

T-bone
10-22-2003, 05:45 PM
To tell you the truth - I'm not sure if that was ever really explained.

My theory is there was a makeup error - perhaps some "tan" showing under the white or something and they covered it up however they could.

Gazelle
10-23-2003, 11:37 AM
Sorry if I've missed something obvious here - but do we have a broadcast date for when Clonewars is happening on Cartoon Network and/or HS?

T-bone
10-23-2003, 11:39 AM
http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/

Javen
10-26-2003, 12:41 PM
Do you think that EPIII is really ROTJ in reverse? I have heard this by a few people.

Example:EPIII starts out with a massive space battle and ROTJ pretty much ends on one. It is something I thought about and it seems logical, only Anakin makes the opposite choice.

T-bone
10-26-2003, 12:51 PM
No, I don't think Lucas lets the order of events in his other stories dictate the flow of the new ones. People will find things like this til the cows come home. It might be a neat coincidence and fun to point out but I don't think Lucas did it on purpose.

Remember - you don't really even KNOW how EP3 is going to flow yet. Did JED start out with a big climactic lightsaber battle? No.

Javen
10-26-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Oct 26 2003, 11:51 AM
No, I don't think Lucas lets the order of events in his other stories dictate the flow of the new ones. People will find things like this til the cows come home. It might be a neat coicidence and fun to point out but I don't think Lucas did it on purpose.

Remember - you don't really even KNOW how EP3 is going to flow yet. Did Jedi start out witha big climactic lightsaber battle? No.
I know, I'm just trying to figure it out in my head. Plus ROTJ is my favorite.

T-bone
10-28-2003, 02:34 AM
Next!

Gazelle
11-03-2003, 11:40 AM
I have heard people talking about some kind of black spider on the Emperor's face in the original ROTJ. What are they talking about?

T-bone
11-03-2003, 11:48 AM
Spider? I think you mean what they call the "slug" on the side of his eye and I think I referenced this somewhere on the boards, if not in this thread somewhere. Try searching for "slug" or something.

Gazelle
11-03-2003, 12:07 PM
hehe, not infinitely helpful, T ole boy.

The word "slug" in a search is a fascinating way to review loads of past "Jabba the Hutt" posts, plus of course everything that Senator Sluggo has ever written!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

T-bone
11-03-2003, 12:10 PM
I don't have time to find it but i did mention it somewhere on these boards.

Look closely at the Emperor scenes in JEDI where he's in the chair - head on shots, kind of close up, talking smack. Look to the side of his right eye (left side of screen) sort of near the inside of the hood and you'll see the black "slugs."

My opinions is that there was some makeup error or there's some skin or something there that wasn't meant to be seen and they didn't notice it til later on so they covered it up with some black stuff sort of like how they hid the landspeeder wheels in ANH.

Gazelle
11-03-2003, 12:22 PM
I only have the Special Edition here - does that mean I won't see it?

How was it changed? Now all I can see is more shadow from the hood.

T-bone
11-03-2003, 12:25 PM
you'll see it. Look closely. Check the old versions if you can.

Gazelle
11-03-2003, 12:31 PM
I will when it comes out on dvd!

T-bone
11-03-2003, 12:34 PM
hey look: I was right after all...

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...wstuff/cgi.html (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/cgi.html)

Gazelle
11-03-2003, 12:37 PM
Ok T, thanks.

Darth Vegas
11-03-2003, 12:39 PM
Hey whaddaya know, they found the tennis shoe and the potato in the TESB asteroid field:

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie2.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie2.jpg)

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie3.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie3.jpg)

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie4.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie4.jpg)

Frendon
11-03-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by TK-007@Nov 3 2003, 11:39 AM
Hey whaddaya know, they found the tennis shoe and the potato in the TESB asteroid field:

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie2.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie2.jpg)

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie3.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie3.jpg)

http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Ne...uff/tennie4.jpg (http://www.cinenet.net/~agrapha/StarNet/Newstuff/tennie4.jpg)
Ooo style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif I have to check that one when i get home, I'll try to get a better screenshot.

JediBendu
11-05-2003, 12:32 PM
I have a photo (from the Story of Star Wars album) which depicts Vader's Tie fighter under fire from an x-wing.
My question is whether this is an actual sequence that was cut (as it's almost pretty much the same shot as vader hitting red leader only reversed) or was it just some editing exec using his creative license when composing the pics for the album's inset booklet?

T-bone
11-05-2003, 12:39 PM
I love that pic. I believe it to be a publicity shot, however. Sorry.

Darth Darthy
11-05-2003, 01:49 PM
Dear Mr T,
Seeing as you wear an ear ring or two and are therefor harder then most sw fans, will you please go destroy Micky Suttle with your 12" pythons?
Cheers.

T-bone
11-05-2003, 01:55 PM
Lucasfilm doesn't even feel the need to take him out so... we live with him. Why don't you just stop going there?

And they bust MY balls about posting EP3 pics scanned from the Insider...

Gazelle
11-06-2003, 04:17 PM
There is a Darth Sidious avatar here at GS which clearly shows his eyes.

Question: Is this Ian McDiarmid? Where does this picture come from? I didn't see it anywhere until I came here.

T-bone
11-06-2003, 04:32 PM
It's a promo still and yes that's Ian, of course.

Justin
11-06-2003, 06:10 PM
Are you sure it's not a clawdite shapeshifter changing from Darth Sidious into Senator Palpatine?

T-bone
11-06-2003, 06:36 PM
you never know.

Gazelle
11-09-2003, 08:22 PM
Why did Palpatine want Padme protected by the Jedi, specifically Obi Wan Kenobi? I thought he was trying to kill her!

T-bone
11-09-2003, 09:11 PM
Ummmm.... to give the impression that he's a nice guy?

Cęsar Iaius I
11-09-2003, 09:17 PM
What was Grand Moff Tarkin's motive in refusing to get the Emperor's approval for the sterilization of Alderaan?

T-bone
11-09-2003, 09:20 PM
When was it established in the film that he refused to get the Emperor's approval? Maybe he had carte blanche.

Gazelle
11-09-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Nov 10 2003, 01:11 AM
Ummmm.... to give the impression that he's a nice guy?
er.... is that it?

I had a theory that he had a long term plan to get Anakin expelled from the Jedi Order and within his grasp and influence.

Cęsar Iaius I
11-09-2003, 09:24 PM
It was in the novelization and script, but removed during the editing process to smoothen the flow of the story.

Vader demanded that he consult the Emperor. Tarkin refused.

T-bone
11-09-2003, 09:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It was in the novelization and script, but removed during the editing process to smoothen the flow of the story.

Vader demanded that he consult the Emperor. Tarkin refused. [/b][/quote]

If it's not in the films, I can't give you an answer really. You'll have to ask George.

T-bone
11-09-2003, 09:33 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>er.... is that it?[/b][/quote]

Probably. It's part of the game, man. Who would suspect him of anything? EPISODE III will show you the failure in that reasoning, however.

Cęsar Iaius I
11-09-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Nov 9 2003, 06:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It was in the novelization and script, but removed during the editing process to smoothen the flow of the story.

Vader demanded that he consult the Emperor. Tarkin refused.

If it's not in the films, I can't give you an answer really. You'll have to ask George. [/b][/quote]
Fair enough.

Another... Lord Vader said "There will be no one to stop us this time."

This comment implies either the Rebellion or the Senate were the parties he speaks of. However, we get the impression that the Empire can indeed do whatever it wants to whomever it wants, and the Senate cannot intervene. It also seems that the Rebellion isn't much of a concern at this point, and it's unlikely that they ever stopped the Empire from doing anything.

Whom was Vader referring to, then? How could this party "stop" them from doing what they needed to?

T-bone
11-09-2003, 09:43 PM
I'm thinking he's referring to some former plan to recover the plans or some such thing... No one to stop us this time...some previous fight or battle or skirmish. Maybe even referring to the fact that the plans aren't found yet and maybe Leia stopped them from finding them and now that she's caught - no one to stop us...

who knows really.
no idea.

Justin
11-09-2003, 09:54 PM
I think it was just one of those stock bad-guy lines. Like a Ming the Merciless type thing to say.

Gazelle
11-10-2003, 07:33 PM
"I've learned this lesson before" "You haven't learned anything Anakin"

Where do those deleted lines come from in the chronology of the movie?

Darth Darthy
11-10-2003, 07:45 PM
Huh? Episode II outside the club. Oops, this is ask T'Bone not Darthy. Please forgive Master Bone. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

leandar
11-11-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by T'bone@Nov 9 2003, 07:43 PM
I'm thinking he's referring to some former plan to recover the plans or some such thing... No one to stop us this time...some previous fight or battle or skirmish. Maybe even referring to the fact that the plans aren't found yet and maybe Leia stopped them from finding them and now that she's caught - no one to stop us...

who knows really.
no idea.
I've always took Vader's line to be that "no one to stop them this time" meant that they would not lose again to the Rebellion. Because the opening crawl DID say that the Rebels had just won their first victory against the Empire and so perhaps they were stopped from some fiendish plan at that conflict.

Gazelle
11-13-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Gazelle@Nov 10 2003, 11:33 PM
"I've learned this lesson before" "You haven't learned anything Anakin"

Where do those deleted lines come from in the chronology of the movie?
Sorry to quote myself, but.....

T-bone
11-13-2003, 08:09 PM
Those are from the scene outside the Outlander Club.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e...tclub_alley.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep2/nightclub_alley.htm)

Gazelle
11-13-2003, 08:43 PM
Thank you T.

They have edited that extremely well as I would never have known.

Seanakin
11-13-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Nov 9 2003, 05:43 PM
I'm thinking he's referring to some former plan to recover the plans or some such thing... No one to stop us this time...some previous fight or battle or skirmish. Maybe even referring to the fact that the plans aren't found yet and maybe Leia stopped them from finding them and now that she's caught - no one to stop us...

who knows really.
no idea.
Yeah, I was thinking of the explanation in the novel as to Leia's role in the resistance, i.e. using her position of power to inform the Rebels of any possible plans to root them out, or to (ab)use diplomatic immunity for the sake of smuggling valuable info to the Alliance, which was what the Tantive IV was doing when captured.

Forgive me for upstaging, BTW. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

Gazelle
11-14-2003, 08:22 PM
As a follow up to my last question, there was also a line of dialogue from Bail Organa (obviously during the "This is a crisis!" scene) which was also deleted from Episode III. Bail says something like, "We must stop them before they're ready." On a script site, I see that this line is attributed to Mace Windu although it is clearly Bail in the trailer. An odd line for Bail to say anyway, given his pacifist/Amidala political leanings. I have searched your site T for anything on this but couldnt find anything.

Any comments about it?

smudger9
11-14-2003, 10:10 PM
Probably a stupid question but is there any significance of the blue and green light sabers??

I always thought it should be one for padawan and the other for jedi but this blatantly isnt the case.

And why did GL agree to let Samel L have that bloody purple saber.

T-bone
11-16-2003, 11:59 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>As a follow up to my last question, there was also a line of dialogue from Bail Organa (obviously during the "This is a crisis!" scene) which was also deleted from Episode III. Bail says something like, "We must stop them before they're ready." On a script site, I see that this line is attributed to Mace Windu although it is clearly Bail in the trailer. An odd line for Bail to say anyway, given his pacifist/Amidala political leanings. I have searched your site T for anything on this but couldnt find anything.

Any comments about it?[/b][/quote]


http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/e...ar_steps_up.htm (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/cut_scenes/ep2/jarjar_steps_up.htm)

I have that small clip from the trailer i've been meaning to add to that page too. ANd I don't think Bail meant to pound them into oblivion - just to stop them somehow. Perhaps send the Jedi over to see what's up. See the missing dialogue for mroe...

T-bone
11-16-2003, 12:00 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Probably a stupid question but is there any significance of the blue and green light sabers??

I always thought it should be one for padawan and the other for jedi but this blatantly isnt the case.

And why did GL agree to let Samel L have that bloody purple saber. [/b][/quote]


Lucas has said that good guys had blue and green, bad guys had red. Sam asked for a purple one so he could pick himself out in a crowd while on the set and Lucas did it to be nice, I assume.

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

brookie
11-19-2003, 07:05 PM
hey t bone- a- roo!! i have a question, i was wondering is yoda a part of a speices? if so are they all green? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

Javen
11-19-2003, 07:20 PM
I don't know if you have heard of this before but, is it true that on screen George purposley makes the bad guys go from right to left and good guys go from left to right? Do you know what I'm talking about? If not, just over look this question. The reason I ask is because I could have sworn I heard him say this in an interview once.

T-bone
11-19-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by brookie@Nov 19 2003, 07:05 PM
hey t bone- a- roo!! i have a question, i was wondering is yoda a part of a speices? if so are they all green? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif
Yes ma'am.
I am sure that Yoda belongs to SOME species and they're most likely all green (see also Yaddle) but what that species is, well that is one of the best kept secrets of the SW galaxy...known only to George. Personally I think he should give the species a name and call it something like Lucasinians or something. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/y.gif

brookie
11-19-2003, 07:31 PM
he wont tell? or has he never made one up?

T-bone
11-19-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Javen@Nov 19 2003, 07:20 PM
I don't know if you have heard of this before but, is it true that on screen George purposley makes the bad guys go from right to left and good guys go from left to right? Do you know what I'm talking about? If not, just over look this question. The reason I ask is because I could have sworn I heard him say this in an interview once.
Well, LOL - if you heard him SAY it in an interview...I'd think you'd be inclined to agree with him?

Yes, I've heard this. See the battles of Geonosis and Hoth for good examples. However this seems to only be the case on land. In space, everyone's all over the place except maybe for the big ships ala Episode I or something. I'm sure it has less with the actual direction and more with the visual reference of trying to keep straight who's who in the battles.