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Justin
08-13-2003, 01:45 AM
There will probably be another James Bond film. What would you like to see?
Personally, I want to see one more Pierce Brosnan Bond movie, one that is on par with GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies. Mostly because I think Brosnan is the best Bond yet, and I want to see him do another good one.
Then, what I would really like to see, is a movie about James Bond's early years, when he was trained to be a secret agent, and how he got to be 007. His first mission as a 00 agent, and whatnot. They could probably break it up over a couple films to keep it fresh.
That would be a nice break from the formula (although it would still need to have the whole gun barrell/prologue action scene/music video beginning. Because that's just cool).
Darth Vegas
08-13-2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 12 2003, 08:45 PM
Then, what I would really like to see, is a movie about James Bond's early years, when he was trained to be a secret agent, and how he got to be 007. His first mission as a 00 agent, and whatnot. They could probably break it up over a couple films to keep it fresh.
I would like to see that only if they go retro. That would make for a pretty good film.
Justin
08-13-2003, 02:03 AM
You mean if it was set in the fifties or sixties? I don't think that would work. People would compare it to Austin Powers. And the tech would be a little too primitive to make a spy movie of today's standards.
Darth Vegas
08-13-2003, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 12 2003, 09:03 PM
You mean if it was set in the fifties or sixties? I don't think that would work. People would compare it to Austin Powers. And the tech would be a little too primitive to make a spy movie of today's standards.
I'm not suggesting that they go back to using the same cheesy props, just that they make a stylish Bond film that takes place around the 50's or 60's.
So exactly why wouldn't it work to make a 007 movie that took place in the era where it all started?
I think it'd be stupid to make a 007 movie that's supposed to be like a prequel, but takes place today.
And no, I don't think they'd compare it to Austin Powers, which is merely a parody of classic Spy Flicks.
Justin
08-13-2003, 02:38 AM
Not a prequel, but a sort of re-telling or something. They've essentially revamped the continuity every time they get a new actor, so it would work if they set it today with today's tech. I would think that to be more interesting, and it would be more accessable to the core audience of action movies today.
Darth Vegas
08-13-2003, 02:48 AM
Well mabye, I'd like something more interesting than that, it'd be nothing more than the last few Bond flicks if they were going to go in that direction.
Too much potential to waste on that, IMO.
JediBendu
08-13-2003, 02:51 AM
the james bond franchise has sunk low enough they may as well start doing porn
Darth Vegas
08-13-2003, 02:57 AM
It's true, funny how the critics (and alot of fans) loved the last Bond film.
Darth Badly
08-13-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 13 2003, 06:38 AM
Not a prequel, but a sort of re-telling or something. They've essentially revamped the continuity every time they get a new actor, so it would work if they set it today with today's tech. I would think that to be more interesting, and it would be more accessable to the core audience of action movies today.
There's always been a kinda unwritten law that all the adventures have taken place though. I don't think that junking everything and setting his first mission today would be too well received. (At least not by moi.)
Tovor
08-13-2003, 02:40 PM
I agree. If anything, start a spin-off series that has in the first film James Bond mentoring a double-O apprentice, with the apprentice/agent to be fulfilling his training at the end and helping Bond save the world. Then the next film would star that new agent, with a cameo by James Bond.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
08-13-2003, 06:24 PM
Sorry if this is old news:
OFFICIAL news:
The part of James Bond for the next film is
most likely going to be played by Gerard Butler (Tombraider II, and Reign of Fire)
Handothrawn
08-13-2003, 10:39 PM
That sucks.
mtilden
08-16-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 13 2003, 09:24 PM
Sorry if this is old news:
OFFICIAL news:
The part of James Bond for the next film is
most likely going to be played by Gerard Butler (Tombraider II, and Reign of Fire)
That is not true, Pierce Brosnan is signed to play Bond at least one more time. The role isn't going to anyone else anytime soon.
P-Ray
08-16-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by mtilden+Aug 16 2003, 02:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mtilden @ Aug 16 2003, 02:02 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 13 2003, 09:24 PM
Sorry if this is old news:
OFFICIAL news:
The part of James Bond for the next film is
most likely going to be played by Gerard Butler (Tombraider II, and Reign of Fire)
That is not true, Pierce Brosnan is signed to play Bond at least one more time. The role isn't going to anyone else anytime soon. [/b][/quote]
Even though he is getting older(aren't we all), I would like to see Pierce Brosnan at least one more time as Bond. He has probably been my favorite so far.
Originally posted by mtilden+Aug 16 2003, 07:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mtilden @ Aug 16 2003, 07:02 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 13 2003, 09:24 PM
Sorry if this is old news:
OFFICIAL news:
The part of James Bond for the next film is
most likely going to be played by Gerard Butler (Tombraider II, and Reign of Fire)
That is not true, Pierce Brosnan is signed to play Bond at least one more time. The role isn't going to anyone else anytime soon. [/b][/quote]
well, the franchise has been searching for a replacement for 3-4 years i think. I heard Ewan was considered. My choice is Jude Law. Brosnan has had his run.
Darth Vegas
08-16-2003, 08:43 PM
Well they had their eye on Brosnan to play Bond since before Timothy Dalton.
Brosnan was negotiating a new contract last I heard, by now he's probably all set for the next film.
Justin
08-16-2003, 11:35 PM
Jude Law wouldn't be a good James Bond. He's too creepy looking. He would make a cool villain for one of the new Bond movies.
Darth Vegas
08-16-2003, 11:47 PM
Agreed, that and he's too well known I think.
When the time comes to pick a new Bond they need to find an unknown with just the right look and demeanor.
Whisper
08-16-2003, 11:58 PM
Maybe I'm weird, but the only Bond movie I liked was Goldeneye...
Alls I can say is if I met Famke...my words would be "Crush me...please..." Talk about a happy death...yum
Justin
08-17-2003, 12:00 AM
I don't know man, I thought she was kind of weird in that movie.
Whisper
08-17-2003, 12:05 AM
But imagine being between those legs. Trying to pry them lose...and 'accidentally' slipping...hehe...
Darth Vegas
08-17-2003, 12:23 AM
She was a freak alright, but damn was she hot! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
Marbleman
08-17-2003, 12:37 AM
she always did like a good squeeze. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Grand Admiral Thrawn
08-17-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by mtilden+Aug 16 2003, 02:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mtilden @ Aug 16 2003, 02:02 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 13 2003, 09:24 PM
Sorry if this is old news:
OFFICIAL news:
The part of James Bond for the next film is
most likely going to be played by Gerard Butler (Tombraider II, and Reign of Fire)
That is not true, Pierce Brosnan is signed to play Bond at least one more time. The role isn't going to anyone else anytime soon. [/b][/quote]
In an interview, Pierce said that he was
sad because Die Another Day was his last film.
Then the news about Gerard Butler was released.
If I had to choose between Bond Girls, it'd have
to be Kara Milovy (Maryam d'Abo| The Living Daylights)
and Natalya Simonova (Izabella Scorupco| Goldeneye) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Darth Vegas
08-17-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn@Aug 16 2003, 08:22 PM
In an interview, Pierce said that he was
sad because Die Another Day was his last film.
Yes the last film in his contract, he has since made a new contract.
mtilden
08-17-2003, 03:05 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>In an interview, Pierce said that he was
sad because Die Another Day was his last film.
Then the news about Gerard Butler was released.
[/b][/quote]
I am sorry, but that simply is not true, it is rumor only. No announcement that the role of James Bond would be played be someone other than Pierce Brosnan has been made, and in fact, several announcements have been made to the contrary. At the end of production on Die Another Day Pierce was offered a contract extension to do one more Bond film, and he accepted the offer. Commander Bond.net (one of the most reliable James Bond sites on the web) already has a page on Bond 21, including a list of the confirmed cast members. Go here: http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/Storie...es/2048-1.shtml (http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/Stories/2048-1.shtml)
I did hear about Gerald Butler on the news, so that isn't oso much of a rumor.
bodhisattva yoda
08-18-2003, 12:06 AM
i don't think i've ever watched a james bond film. am i missing out?
Darth Vegas
08-18-2003, 12:13 AM
Why don't you watch one and find out.
bodhisattva yoda
08-18-2003, 12:16 AM
i dunno...they just don't look that interesting to me. which one is best?
Justin
08-18-2003, 02:12 AM
I personally think Tomorrow Never Dies is the best. It was very well-written, and the character interplay was great in this one, and it felved a little deeper into the characters. There was more to Bond's relationship to the girl than just the next chick to bed down.
I also liked Jonathan Pryce in it, his character was interesting and he played him well. I thought the new twist on the "world domination" theme was pretty cool, and it was nice to have Bond not chasing a big doomsday weapon.
GoldenEye probably has the best cinematography of all of them, and some great action. In my opinion, the climactic fight on the giant sattelite dish was the coolest fight scene in all of the 007 films.
But the big classics are Goldfinger, From Russia, with Love, and Dr. No. Those are must sees. Most of the Roger Moore movies kind of suck, but For Your Eyes Only is pretty good.
mtilden
08-18-2003, 09:55 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I personally think Tomorrow Never Dies is the best. It was very well-written, and the character interplay was great in this one, and it felved a little deeper into the characters. There was more to Bond's relationship to the girl than just the next chick to bed down.
I also liked Jonathan Pryce in it, his character was interesting and he played him well. I thought the new twist on the "world domination" theme was pretty cool, and it was nice to have Bond not chasing a big doomsday weapon.
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Sorry, I thought that Tomorrow Never Dies, was one of the worst Bond films, up there with A View to a Kill and Diamonds are Forever. The greatest problem with it, is that they ignored the vitally important 'Dr. Evil rule' of action movies. If you remember, in the first Austin Powers movie, Dr. Evil threatened to blow up the world, unless he received a cash payment of $1 million. The joke, of course, is that Dr. Evil was going to such ridiculously elaborate lengths, to accomplish such a tiny, insignificant goal. If you are going to blackmail the entire world, it would be wise to ask for something a little more than a mere $1 million. So, the "Dr. Evil rule" stipulates that, whenever a nefarious supervillian goes to extravegent lengths to accomplish something, the thing he is trying to accomplish,should be something so big, that it justifies the extreme tactics used. The audience has to believe that what the villian wants, is something so big, so ambitious, that blackmailing the world, is the only way that he could possibly hope to obtain it. And the villian of Tomorrow Never Dies fails this test. Trying to start World War III, for something as insignificant as 'exclusive broadcasting rights in China' is just not believable. It is like Dr. Evil asking for $1 million, going to such elaborate lengths, to accomplish such a small thing, simply does not make sense. If he wanted broadcasting rights in China, there are lots of ways to get this, he doesn't need to start World War III to obtain it. Pryce's goal, is so far out of proportion to his means, that it stretches credibility to the breaking point.
Darth Vegas
08-18-2003, 10:17 PM
I agree entirely.
Darth Badly
08-18-2003, 10:26 PM
And I agree with you both.
Tommorrow Never Dies was the weakest of the recent Bond films for me. It had a dumb plot (as explained above) which was basically YET another reworking of You Only Live Twice and The Spy Who Loves Me. The idea of a villain starting World War III for personal gain is just dumb. It might have worked as an idea during the Cold War but not now.
Of the PB Bond's I've enjoyed Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough.
For someone who's never watched a Bond before rent From Russia with love and Goldfinger. Both classics. Those two films are what Bond and Austin Powers and a lot of other things have been ripping off for the last 30 plus years.
mtilden
08-18-2003, 10:40 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>For someone who's never watched a Bond before rent From Russia with love and Goldfinger. Both classics. Those two films are what Bond and Austin Powers and a lot of other things have been ripping off for the last 30 plus years.[/b][/quote]
I have always thought that Austin Powers, especially the first one, drew most of its inspiration, including its design for Dr. Evil, from You Only Live Twice.
P-Ray
08-18-2003, 11:28 PM
For the Sean Connery era, you can watch any of them and enjoy them.
For Roger Moore, the choices should be "For your eyes only" or "The Spy who loved me."
Don't watch any Timothy Daltons.
And all of Pierce Brosnans are great.
Darth Vegas
08-18-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 18 2003, 06:28 PM
For Roger Moore, the choices should be "For your eyes only" or "The Spy who loved me."
'The Man with the Golden Gun' ain't bad either.
bodhisattva yoda
08-19-2003, 01:37 AM
for those of you interested in long-standing film franchises (and i know most of you are), i highly recommend the zatoichi film series. there's 27 films in the series, the lead character (zatoichi) is also always played by the same actor. of all the zatoichi films i've seen (about half of them), they're all quality films. the cinematography, acting, sword fights, music, plot, humor, everything, is just great. it's about a wandering blind masseur who's also an extremely skilled swordsman, and almost has extrasensory perception. sorta like daredevil, but daredevil is stupid. zatoichi is cool. his character is also extremely interesting. he's very humble and almost self-deprecating, also very amiable and very virtuous. he also has his vices (gambling, drinking, hookers) but is always the first to admit his faults. what's so great about these films is that each episode advances his character development. each film also stands on its own, but they're much more rewarding when watched in succession. sorry for the rant. i just feel like everyone is missing out, damnit.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A02TR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Justin
08-19-2003, 04:05 AM
If the idea of starting a war for the broadcasting rights seems insignificant to you, you aren't seeing the bigger picture. If you are the only one who can broadcast images of something that everyone will want to watch, you will make millions of dollars. That may not appeal to you because it's not the same big-bad-super-villain-trying-to-destroy-the-world-with-big-bad-super-weapon formula that the Bond franchise is beginning to sag under.
And what exactly was the bad guy's motivation in the last movie? Something like allowing his country to take over another country for revenge or something? How lame is that? Not to mention being done a million times.
I liked Tomorrow Never Dies mainly because of the characters and their interplay. It was also photographed very well and had some nifty action sequences. I thought it was cool that they made the villain and his agenda different from the usual deal, because it was a fresh idea and a neat spin on the whole World Domination thing. The media is bigger and more monstrous than ever, and it was cool that it was the lynchpin of the story.
I guess I would like to see more fresh stories and not just rehashes of the same plot over and over again. That's why I would like to learn a little more about who Bond is and where he comes from.
Darth Vegas
08-19-2003, 04:10 AM
Justin he wasn't going to get exclusive broadcasting rights over the entire world, he was trying to get exclusive broadcasting rights with China, the idea is flat out dumb.
Justin
08-19-2003, 04:17 AM
He still would have benefitted greatly from it because he had a huge multimedia conglomerate. Having exclusive broadcasting rights in China would be a nice extra slice of pie, but even without it he would stand to make millions from the other networks, magazines, motion pictures, newspapers, etc. that he owned. Not to mention the sick pleasure of having that much control over the people of the world.
Darth Vegas
08-19-2003, 04:30 AM
He might get big bucks out of it, but still...the idea of someone creating World War 3 so they get the exclusive rights to broadcast the news about the war in that one country is really dumb, IMO.
I think they could've come up with something far more convincing than that.
A madman that's out to start world war 3, ok sure that works, a madman that's out to start ww3 so he can broadcast the news in China, no so good.
Justin
08-19-2003, 04:37 AM
It wasn't just news in China. I think you missed the point.
But ok, we have different opinions. I liked it because it was different and a fresh approach, you didn't. That doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong.
Darth Badly
08-19-2003, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by mtilden@Aug 19 2003, 02:40 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>For someone who's never watched a Bond before rent From Russia with love and Goldfinger. Both classics. Those two films are what Bond and Austin Powers and a lot of other things have been ripping off for the last 30 plus years.
I have always thought that Austin Powers, especially the first one, drew most of its inspiration, including its design for Dr. Evil, from You Only Live Twice. [/b][/quote]
Absolutely - at least in it's designs etc but by the time of You Only, the Bond series was already feeding off previous films...
Darth Badly
08-19-2003, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 19 2003, 08:37 AM
But ok, we have different opinions. I liked it because it was different and a fresh approach, you didn't. That doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong.
But it wasn't new or fresh.
Under the surface of the Big Bad Media plot is was just another reworking of Mad Baddie tries to start WW III by attacking two sides and making them think the other is behind it.
mtilden
08-19-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Darth Badly+Aug 19 2003, 10:30 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Badly @ Aug 19 2003, 10:30 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Aug 19 2003, 08:37 AM
But ok, we have different opinions. I liked it because it was different and a fresh approach, you didn't. That doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong.
But it wasn't new or fresh.
Under the surface of the Big Bad Media plot is was just another reworking of Mad Baddie tries to start WW III by attacking two sides and making them think the other is behind it. [/b][/quote]
Yes, I agree. Blofeld had tried to start WWIII several times before, it wasn't a new idea. In addition, Blofeld's motivations for starting WWIII make much more sense, especially in the context of the Cold War.
Justin
08-19-2003, 03:25 PM
The whole idea of having him taking over the world through the media instead of being a leader or something was a new idea. I thought it was cool, but if you didn't then that's fine.
GoldenEye is Prosnan's best. Had the coolest story, best villian, hottest chics.
Goldfinger is the best overall.
Someone tell me what the heck happened in Diamonds are Forever.
mtilden
08-19-2003, 08:35 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Someone tell me what the heck happened in Diamonds are Forever. [/b][/quote]
I have no idea, something about diamond smuggling, which turns out to be the work of Blofeld and SPECTRE, the story isn't very clear at all. One of the more confusing Bond flicks.
Virus
07-28-2004, 11:28 PM
Time to bring this thread back to life since we all just found out that Pierce Brosnan is quiting Bond 21 movie that is suppose to debut next Thanksgiving. I think this is a terrible move and it basically seals the deal that Brosnan was barely a Bond actor. 1 Great movie, 1 Good movie, 1 Average movie and 1 Terrible movie. Not the best track record. Moore is still hands down the best and don't give me any crap about Connery because your just picking him cause he was the first.
Also, who does everyone think should be the next Bond? I think Jude Law should be.
Javen
07-28-2004, 11:34 PM
Hugh Jackman
P-Ray
07-28-2004, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Virus@Jul 28 2004, 09:28 PM
Time to bring this thread back to life since we all just found out that Pierce Brosnan is quiting Bond 21 movie that is suppose to debut next Thanksgiving. I think this is a terrible move and it basically seals the deal that Brosnan was barely a Bond actor. 1 Great movie, 1 Good movie, 1 Average movie and 1 Terrible movie. Not the best track record. Moore is still hands down the best and don't give me any crap about Connery because your just picking him cause he was the first.
That is a major disapointment. I loved Pierce Brosnan as Bond and I thought all of his Bond movies were great. Brosnan was a great Bond!
The one thing I do agree with you is Roger Moore as Bond. I grew up with him as Bond and didn't even see Connery as Bond until a few years ago.
Virus
07-29-2004, 12:13 AM
Connery's movies were too cheesy and lame. Yea I know they are 40 years old but still. Brosnan's movies had boring plots and poor actors/actresses (besides Goldeneye because its actually my favorite Bond movie). I actually think Tim Dalton's James Bond is HIGHLY underrated. Yet he only did two movies (not far behind Pierce), they were two good movies. The Living Daylights is amazing.
One good thing I will say about a new James Bond character coming is that every time we get a new Bond, the first movie for them is always amazing.
Dr No
Casino Royale
Live and Let Die
The Living Daylights
Goldeneye
P-Ray
07-29-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Virus@Jul 28 2004, 10:13 PM
I actually think Tim Dalton's James Bond is HIGHLY underrated. Yet he only did two movies (not far behind Pierce), they were two good movies. The Living Daylights is amazing.
I thought Timothy Dalton was a little dry and stale. However I did like those Bond movies.
Someone just told me that Adrian Paul from Highlander was being considered as the next Bond. I think he would do pretty good.
mazzy
07-29-2004, 10:57 AM
Who was the Bond in the film where his wife died, that was a really good Bond film, and explained the character I thought.
I think (controversial I know) that Ewen McGreggor would make an excellent Bond.
P-Ray
07-29-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by mazzy@Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM
Who was the Bond in the film where his wife died, that was a really good Bond film, and explained the character I thought.
I think (controversial I know) that Ewen McGreggor would make an excellent Bond.
It was George Lazenby. Great film, bad Bond!
BTW, that Bond film was titled "Her Majesty's Secret Service"
ewan mcgregor would be a very cool bond. not sure if he is 'bad' enough though.
monstorer1518
07-29-2004, 10:03 PM
Bring back Roger Moore! Hes only 75!
RollaFett
07-29-2004, 10:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Someone just told me that Adrian Paul from Highlander was being considered as the next Bond. I think he would do pretty good. [/b][/quote]
Wow, Adrian Paul, huh? I think that would be a pretty good choice. Certainly not a huge name, so it he would probably jump at it, but would the Brocolli brothers take a chance on someone not well known? Hmmmm.....interesting.
Overall, I'm disappointed with Brosnan quitting. Ever since 'Remington Steele' he was always considered as the next great Bond, and it took so long for him to finally get the role. Now, he's had enough? Fine, but what the hell has he ever done with any success besides Steele and Bond? Sounds foolish to me.
P-Ray
07-29-2004, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by GollaFett@Jul 29 2004, 08:18 PM
Overall, I'm disappointed with Brosnan quitting. Ever since 'Remington Steele' he was always considered as the next great Bond, and it took so long for him to finally get the role. Now, he's had enough? Fine, but what the hell has he ever done with any success besides Steele and Bond? Sounds foolish to me.
I'm disappointed too because I really like Brosnan as Bond. When I thought about it though, I remembered that he is in his upper 40's if not 50 and might feel he's too old for all the action and stunts.
K-Man
07-29-2004, 11:26 PM
<span style="color:green">Ewan McGregor would be pretty darn perfect for the role. Can't think of anyone better off the top of my head.
Brosnan is the man though. He has to stay with it.</span>
JediJaina
07-29-2004, 11:31 PM
There are stories going around that Orlando Bloom has been cast as James Bond in a movie regarding the younger days of Bond.
Ripley the Warmaster
07-29-2004, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by JediJaina@Jul 29 2004, 09:31 PM
There are stories going around that Orlando Bloom has been cast as James Bond in a movie regarding the younger days of Bond.
<span style="color:blue">I hope that isn't true. I like Orlando, but I can't see him as James. I'll go in the camp in wanting Clive Owen to be the next Bond.</span>
Master Shrive
07-29-2004, 11:51 PM
Good topic!
Firstly, I think Pierce should get to do one last Bond. He's done a very good job in helping to modernise Bond and bring it out of the slump it hit in the late 80's.
Secondly, I would like to see 007 acting along side a few more 00 agents, at least 3. I think this would be pretty cool, and show us something we haven't really seen.
I also like the idea of been shown how Bond became a 00 agent. Even though it would probably be hard to do, I think it would be worth it.
Thirdly, I don't really know who would make a good Bond after Brosnan. I'm much good at picking actors.
Fouthly, any idea what his new gadgets would be? I can't think of much that will top an invisable car!!
Justin
07-30-2004, 03:52 AM
I just hope they do something different and don't just try to top the last one with bigger effects and bigger stunts.
I want to see a Bond movie in the vein of From Russia With Love and For Your Eyes Only, with Brosnan in it as his last one.
mazzy
07-30-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by JediJaina@Jul 30 2004, 02:31 AM
There are stories going around that Orlando Bloom has been cast as James Bond in a movie regarding the younger days of Bond.
NO!!! He would not make a good Bond. I hate this idea. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Ewen McGreggor, it's got to be.
Master Shrive
07-30-2004, 07:42 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I just hope they do something different and don't just try to top the last one with bigger effects and bigger stunts.[/b][/quote]
I agree totally.
P-Ray
07-30-2004, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by mazzy+Jul 30 2004, 04:55 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mazzy @ Jul 30 2004, 04:55 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-JediJaina@Jul 30 2004, 02:31 AM
There are stories going around that Orlando Bloom has been cast as James Bond in a movie regarding the younger days of Bond.
NO!!! He would not make a good Bond. I hate this idea. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif
Ewen McGreggor, it's got to be. [/b][/quote]
Why do you think he would be so good?
Master Shrive
07-30-2004, 08:48 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Ewen McGreggor, it's got to be. [/b][/quote]
Why do you think he would be so good?
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Thats a good question. I agree that Orlando wouldn't really suit the role though.
Brian
07-30-2004, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Virus@Jul 28 2004, 10:28 PM
Time to bring this thread back to life since we all just found out that Pierce Brosnan is quiting Bond 21 movie that is suppose to debut next Thanksgiving. I think this is a terrible move and it basically seals the deal that Brosnan was barely a Bond actor. 1 Great movie, 1 Good movie, 1 Average movie and 1 Terrible movie. Not the best track record. Moore is still hands down the best and don't give me any crap about Connery because your just picking him cause he was the first.
Also, who does everyone think should be the next Bond? I think Jude Law should be.
Here's a link to the story on SciFi.com (though I didn't think James Bond was science fiction or fantasy...)
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.ht...7/29/11.15.film (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-07/29/11.15.film)
Master Shrive
07-30-2004, 09:23 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Time to bring this thread back to life since we all just found out that Pierce Brosnan is quiting Bond 21 movie that is suppose to debut next Thanksgiving. I think this is a terrible move and it basically seals the deal that Brosnan was barely a Bond actor. 1 Great movie, 1 Good movie, 1 Average movie and 1 Terrible movie. Not the best track record. Moore is still hands down the best and don't give me any crap about Connery because your just picking him cause he was the first. [/b][/quote]
I hadn't seen this quote but I went to the site and it seems official that Pierce has had his day, which in my opinion is very sad.
Pierce was definatly as good as Connery (who I'm a fan of) and Moore. I thought he played the role VERY well.
As for the movies he was given, I thought they were all pretty good; certainly not the worst! Die Another Day was very good becuase it showed how bond has a history, which is something different. It also showed 007 been captured, and been abandoned. I thought this was all great.
Goldeneye was also great, and it had a very good game on the N64!
I certainly don't think that Peirce was barely James Bond 007; I think he was equal top with Moore and Connery. But thats just my humble opinion.
As for an actor, I don't know if I like Jude Law - don't really know why though. How about Hue Jackman? He might have to work on the accent and swaga a bit though. Then again, I'm not very good at picking actors.
T-bone
08-01-2004, 12:52 PM
Aussie star Bana chosen as next James Bond: report
Sun Aug 1, 5:34 AM ET
LONDON (AFP) - Australian actor Eric Bana, star of films including "The Hulk" and "Troy", is the surprise new choice to take over as James Bond, a report said.
The beefy 35-year-old had beaten off competition from British actors such as Jude Law and Ewan McGregor to take over the role of the super-spy in the long-running series of films, the News of the World said.
Current Bond, Irish actor Pierce Brosnan, has stepped down after four films following a row with producers, the Sunday tabloid title said.
Bana was still negotiating with the series producers but they were hopeful he would take over for the 21st title in the series, due to begin filming later this year, the paper cited an unnamed "insider" as saying.
"Eric is the guy they want but he has a reputation for being demanding. They want to modernize Bond and turn him into a youthful, suave and modern hero to compete with the likes of Spiderman and Keanu (Reeves) in the Matrix," the source said.
Bana was formerly a popular comedian in Australia before grabbing attention in 2000 film "Chopper", in which he played a real-life character, a famous -- and famously violent -- Australian criminal, Mark "Chopper" Read.
He has subsequently appeared in a string of US blockbusters, most recently playing Hector in swords-and-sandals epic "Troy".
The James Bond films, based on the novels of Ian Fleming, have proved hugely successful ever since the first title, 1962's "Dr No", in which Sean Connery took the lead role.
K-Man
08-01-2004, 02:43 PM
<span style="color:green">Yea...Huh...That's a joke? .......Right?[/carl]</span>
Obidobi
08-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Nope...!
P-Ray
08-01-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 1 2004, 10:52 AM
Aussie star Bana chosen as next James Bond: report
LONDON (AFP) - Australian actor Eric Bana, star of films including "The Hulk" and "Troy", is the surprise new choice to take over as James Bond, a report said.
• Eric Bana
The beefy 35-year-old had beaten off competition from British actors such as Jude Law and Ewan McGregor to take over the role of the super-spy in the long-running series of films, the News of the World said.
Bana was still negotiating with the series producers but they were hopeful he would take over for the 21st title in the series, due to begin filming later this year, the paper cited an unnamed "insider" as saying.
"Eric is the guy they want but he has a reputation for being demanding. They want to modernize Bond and turn him into a youthful, suave and modern hero to compete with the likes of Spiderman and Keanu (Reeves) in the Matrix," the source said.
I like this actor! He may be very good.
Look at the bright side, it could be worse. They could have gotten Danny Devito, Michael J. Fox or David Spade. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Justin
08-01-2004, 09:15 PM
Hmmm...I don't know. He wouldn't be my first pick, but we'll see.
I'd like to learn more about this "row" between Pierce Brosnan and the Bond producers.
P-Ray
08-01-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 1 2004, 07:15 PM
Hmmm...I don't know. He wouldn't be my first pick, but we'll see.
I'd like to learn more about this "row" between Pierce Brosnan and the Bond producers.
Exactly! And what does that mean? I thought he was all set to do the next Bond movie. As a matter of fact, didn't Brosnan say he was going to do it after the rumors that Clive Owens was going to take over? His anouncement seemed to come out of nowhere. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif
Master Shrive
08-01-2004, 10:11 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to learn more about this "row" between Pierce Brosnan and the Bond producers.[/b][/quote]
I agree. It could be a different of opinions of what the fans wanted.
Spoiler below for latest Bond, if you haven't seen it.
I think it may have partly been Brosnan's idea to get captured in Die Another Day. Maybe he had another idea that he thought would be good, but the producers didn't like it. Or it could be the other way round.
As for Bana been the next choice, its nice to have another Aussie in the role! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif (Even though the last one didn't last very long.)
Hopefully he does a good job and lasts awhile. I just hope he gets the accent right.
I can remember his days as a comedian. I also thought he was very good in Troy.
P-Ray
08-02-2004, 12:58 AM
I thought Russell Crowe would be good at one time. I doubt he would do it now especially after his Oscar and being in such high demand.
I also thought of Colin Farrell, but I don't think he or Hugh Jackman would work.
P-Ray
08-02-2004, 10:56 AM
I just read a report on IESB.net that Erica Bana stated that he had not been asked to be Bond yet and that he doesn't consider himself the Bond type.
T-bone
08-02-2004, 10:57 AM
McGregor should be bond. Period.
P-Ray
08-02-2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 2 2004, 08:57 AM
McGregor should be bond. Period.
Why? It seems a lot of people on this board feel that way. I gotta tell ya, I just don't see it.
T-bone
08-02-2004, 11:02 AM
He's perfect. These other guys? No way.
Look at him in Down With Love - the dark hair and that cocky attitude...put an english accent on it. Bam - nice. Very Roger Moore actually...
P-Ray
08-02-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 2 2004, 09:02 AM
Look at him in Down With Love - the dark hair and that cocky attitude...put an english accent on it. Bam - nice. Very Roger Moore actually...
Well, in that case I'm all for it too. (I grew up with Roger Moore as James Bond and he's all I knew for a very long time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif )
P-Ray
08-02-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 2 2004, 08:56 AM
I just read a report on IESB.net that Erica Bana stated that he had not been asked to be Bond yet and that he doesn't consider himself the Bond type.
^This was also confirmed by Comingsoon.net style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Master Shrive
08-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Well there goes all my excitement! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Last time I believe everything I read! I suppose McGregor wouldn't be too bad as a bond then.
JediJaina
08-02-2004, 11:44 PM
I think they love messing with people's heads over who is going to be the next James Bond. It seems like they keep coming up with a new name every few months.
I can't see Ewan in the role. I don't see "Bond" when I look at him (not even Down With Love).
Master Shrive
08-02-2004, 11:55 PM
I can't think of anyone who I see as Bond apart from actors who have already played it. Who ever they choose I won't criticise unitl I see Bond 21.
P-Ray
08-03-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by JediJaina@Aug 2 2004, 09:44 PM
I can't see Ewan in the role. I don't see "Bond" when I look at him (not even Down With Love).
I don't see it either! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif
mazzy
08-03-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by T'bone@Aug 2 2004, 02:02 PM
He's perfect. These other guys? No way.
Look at him in Down With Love - the dark hair and that cocky attitude...put an english accent on it. Bam - nice. Very Roger Moore actually...
You don't need an English accent thank you very much. The best and first Bond was Scottish and had a lovely Scottish accent. And Brosnin is Irish style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
But I agree McGreggor for Bond!
mazzy
08-03-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 2 2004, 03:58 AM
I thought Russell Crowe would be good at one time. I doubt he would do it now especially after his Oscar and being in such high demand.
I also thought of Colin Farrell, but I don't think he or Hugh Jackman would work.
Bond must be British. No question.
cj790
08-03-2004, 12:57 PM
^100% agree. With no disrespect, other actors can't pull off British accents; and why choose an actor from elsewhere to play a British role when there are so many great British actors out there anyway?! I'd rather Brain Blessed as the next Bond than Leo DiCaprio, for instance...
About the accent - Connery is most people's first choice as Bond, and he had a very pronounced accent. Brosnan is indeed Irish, and Timothy Dalton was Welsh, although their accents were kept back somewhat: only Moore and Lazenby have been English.
P-Ray
08-03-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by cj790@Aug 3 2004, 10:57 AM
only Moore and Lazenby have been English.
I thought Lazenby was Australian?
Tovor
08-03-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray+Aug 3 2004, 12:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Aug 3 2004, 12:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-cj790@Aug 3 2004, 10:57 AM
only Moore and Lazenby have been English.
I thought Lazenby was Australian? [/b][/quote]
I thought so too. I think he is.
JediJaina
08-03-2004, 08:48 PM
He was born in Australia.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0493872/
Master Shrive
08-04-2004, 12:37 AM
He was Australian. We'll claim him. I didn't realise he'd moved to England though. A pitty he only managed one movie. Even though he quit, a lot of people also feel he got a bad scritp for his first time round.
Isn't his the movie where he gets a wife? I haven't seen it in years.
Master Shrive
08-04-2004, 02:41 AM
I just read an interesting article here (http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14417310%26method=full%26siteid=86024% 26headline=007%2dpierce%2dis%2dto%2dget%2dthe%2dbu llet-name_page.html) that says the actress that plays MoneyPenny won't continue if Pierce gets the sack and that Judi Dench (M) also supporst Brosnan as 007.
I don't think Dench would quit, but there is obviously still loyalty on the set.
The article's about two weeks old though.
Justin
08-04-2004, 03:24 AM
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (the one with George Lazenby) is actually a pretty good movie, and the dude was pretty good as James Bond.
Bond actually has some character development in that one.
cj790
08-04-2004, 06:18 AM
I stand corrected on Lazenby style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
I think Brosnan is an excellent Bond, but it's up to him if he wants to leave. McGregor would be a good Bond.
mazzy
08-04-2004, 06:45 AM
Ok, so Lazenby is Australian, I still feel the same. I want Bond to be British. I want him to be Ewen.
Obi-Stu
08-04-2004, 08:49 AM
Not having a british Bond is like having a Wookie Anakin for ROTS.
I think Ewan would do great as Bond.
Or maybe even Hugh Grant... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif
P-Ray
08-04-2004, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Obi-Stu@Aug 4 2004, 06:49 AM
Not having a british Bond is like having a Wookie Anakin for ROTS.
I think Ewan would do great as Bond.
Or maybe even Hugh Grant... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif
Hugh Grant? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif At least he had enough practice with the women. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
P-Ray
08-04-2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 4 2004, 01:24 AM
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (the one with George Lazenby) is actually a pretty good movie, and the dude was pretty good as James Bond.
Bond actually has some character development in that one.
Yes, this is a very good movie. Just think how good it could have been if Sean Connery was Bond in it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif
P-Ray
08-04-2004, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Shrive@Aug 4 2004, 12:41 AM
I just read an interesting article here (http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14417310%26method=full%26siteid=86024% 26headline=007%2dpierce%2dis%2dto%2dget%2dthe%2dbu llet-name_page.html) that says the actress that plays MoneyPenny won't continue if Pierce gets the sack and that Judi Dench (M) also supporst Brosnan as 007.
I don't think Dench would quit, but there is obviously still loyalty on the set.
The article's about two weeks old though.
This seems strange to me like maybe Brosnan left under tense circumstances or something. Especially because I thought he said he was going to do the next Bond movie. And now that he's not doing it, others are willing to walk (if that story is true?).
mazzy
08-04-2004, 10:32 AM
Yes, that's strange. Does suggest that he left in tense circumstances. Can anyone find a link? I'll try.
Col. Vefalu
08-04-2004, 03:18 PM
I was looking forward to seeing him portray Bond once more.
Brosnan leaves James Bond franchise (http://www.cinecon.com/news.php?id=0407283)
Col. Vefalu
08-04-2004, 03:19 PM
More recently: Has Brosnan seen his final secret mission? (http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=871762004)
Obi-Stu
08-05-2004, 08:20 AM
Very similar report here (http://www.killermovies.com/j/jamesbond21/articles/4266.html)
mazzy
08-05-2004, 11:25 AM
Boo...pretty much everyone likes his Bond.
Justin
08-05-2004, 06:04 PM
Yeah, it's a shame. Eon is making a mistake by not listening to him, he's a big star now.
I'm sure the next movie will not do nearly as well with someone else other than Brosnan in it.
Master Shrive
08-07-2004, 01:03 AM
^Especially if it seems to have storyline troubles.
Theres a link about M and Money Penny below:
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_object...-name_page.html (http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14417310%26method=full%26siteid=86024% 26headline=007%2dpierce%2dis%2dto%2dget%2dthe%2dbu llet-name_page.html)
(Just incase anyone missed it in my last post.)
As for the actor, there are definately rumours down here that Eric Banner is willing and is in the running for the role. But that could just be our news reporters hyping him up a bit!
P-Ray
08-07-2004, 11:37 AM
Movies.com is reporting that we all thought Pierce Brosnan was out, but it appears to be a negotiating tactic for more money. They also said that Eric Bana is definitely not in as Bond.
Master Shrive
08-08-2004, 12:08 AM
^I thought it was all hype. But that means Pierce is still in the race. I didn't think he was going for money though, I thought it was over the stoyline. Maybe he decided that if he couldn't get a story he liked he should just get paid more!
P-Ray
08-08-2004, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Shrive@Aug 7 2004, 10:08 PM
^I thought it was all hype. But that means Pierce is still in the race. I didn't think he was going for money though, I thought it was over the stoyline. Maybe he decided that if he couldn't get a story he liked he should just get paid more!
The truth is probably a combination of the 2 ($ and storyline).
Master Shrive
08-08-2004, 10:02 PM
^Thats probably a good point. If he at all wants another shot he'll have to find some middle ground.
Obi-Stu
08-11-2004, 09:30 AM
I think Jason Isaacs would be a good Bond...
P-Ray
08-11-2004, 10:13 AM
If it's not Pierce, I hope that whoever they get will have alot of Charisma and do a good job. I think that Brosnan really helped to put life back into the Bond franchise. Hopefully the next guy can keep that going.
Obi-Stu
08-11-2004, 10:36 AM
That and special effects improving...
bigscreensatellite
08-11-2004, 05:30 PM
wooah missed this Bond thread...
anyhow...the main problem here is that the film has a designated release date (Nov 2005)...and the film apparently has a title...has it been mentioned here before?
The Man With the Red Tattoo...(i read the first couple and last page)
but no actor or real substance of a story yet...
now Eon are whizzing around with the whole franchise...as far as i am aware Brosnan was willing to do his 5th bond, Eon didn't wanna pay him what they thought he wanted, and so didnt actually get in contact with him....
He then said that as he hadn't been contated he wasn't gonna do it...
Bana and his Publicist especially has said he has not been contacted at all about the role...and even if he had it would be unlikely that he'd even consider the role...(good, i say)
the whole Bond franchise is in a dilema IMO...
Brosnan is the current best man for the job (this is in fact, if he takes it his last hurrah - whatever - a 6th is a certain no-no)
Not only do Eon have a problem over the star, they also have a problem over the franchise in general, which has come under severe threat in recent years from new pretenders and the 'explosion (excuse the pun) in special effects in these sorts of movies...
now does Bond wanna be like xXx...all out action and no plot...or does it wanna go the way of the biggest threat to its franchise imo - the Bourne Identity...which is pretty much back to basics...
personally, i think the latter is the best option, but big budget and corporate sponsorship is likely to ruin this and the future Bond movies...EON need to claim back its franchise from the car and watch manufacturers and make a movie that we want to see rather than one that is similar or competing with a rival...
i can't wait for the next Bond, but feel it may be sinking into an abyss of trouble as a franchise...
Justin
08-11-2004, 07:21 PM
I think the Bourne series is shaping up to be a better spy thriller series than Bond is now.
Master Shrive
08-12-2004, 12:26 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> I think the Bourne series is shaping up to be a better spy thriller series than Bond is now.[/b][/quote]
I've never seen or heard about this series, whats it about (in brief)?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The Man With the Red Tattoo[/b][/quote]
This is a rumoured title? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif I don't really like the sound of it.
Justin
08-12-2004, 12:33 AM
You know, The Bourne Identity?
Obi-Stu
08-12-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 12 2004, 05:33 AM
You know, The Bourne Identity?
Read the books by Ludlum first. I loved the Bourne serries.
bigscreensatellite
08-12-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Shrive@Aug 11 2004, 10:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> I think the Bourne series is shaping up to be a better spy thriller series than Bond is now.
I've never seen or heard about this series, whats it about (in brief)?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The Man With the Red Tattoo[/b][/quote]
This is a rumoured title? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif I don't really like the sound of it. [/b][/quote]
yep...from the source i had...it was the current working title (source was the BBC)...i think its about a guy with a virus (24 series III anyone?)
its almost like they went through old Bond movie titles and thought...mmm "The Man with the Golden Gun" - that did well, and its soooo Bond...lets think of another along those lines...
How about:
"the spy who quite liked me"...
"Jellyfishy"
"Diamond are for a little while"
"Dr. Yes"
yer get the idea...
if this is indeed the title and plot, it lacks imagination on both counts, imo....
Master Shrive
08-13-2004, 07:14 AM
^ I agree. On another note, we just finished 24, series III over here. I've been a 24 fan ever since it was realeased. Anyone looking forward to series IV? I'm also a big Alias fan, but I don't know what series we're up to. The last show we saw was Jack telling Sydney that she wasn't ever supposed to see some black folder she was holding. I haven't seen anything past this episode. Anyway, I'm off topic. If there is official threads for these topics, fell free to direct me to them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>You know, The Bourne Identity?[/b][/quote]
Read the books by Ludlum first. I loved the Bourne serries.[/b][/quote]
Still, I'm way out of the loop on this. I'll do a search on the web and see what I come up with.
P-Ray
08-13-2004, 11:08 AM
Moviespoilers.net is reporting that James Purefoy is being considered for Bond.
Does anybody know who this is?
Master Shrive
08-13-2004, 11:11 AM
^Never heard of him. Once again, I'll do a search and see what I find.
I looked up the Bourne Identity identity, and what I found was some posters etc. that I'd seen before. But I've never seen the movie.
bigscreensatellite
08-13-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Shrive@Aug 13 2004, 09:11 AM
^Never heard of him. Once again, I'll do a search and see what I find.
I looked up the Bourne Identity identity, and what I found was some posters etc. that I'd seen before. But I've never seen the movie.
get it, rent it, buy it...its class
as is the new film the Bourne Supremacy....
Master Shrive
08-13-2004, 11:14 AM
James Purefoy is a British actor. He looks reasonably young, born in '64. Apparantly he played the Dark Prince in A Knights Tale (which was the only movie in the list that I recognised). He looks like he could play the part.
RollaFett
08-14-2004, 06:49 PM
Yeah, he does look the part, and he certaily fits the mold for who they generally try and get for the role of Bond. Usually some actor who isn't a big name at the time. Sure, everyone had heard of Brosnan when he was cast, but his career hadn't really been huge.
P-Ray
08-14-2004, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by GollaFett@Aug 14 2004, 04:49 PM
Yeah, he does look the part, and he certaily fits the mold for who they generally try and get for the role of Bond. Usually some actor who isn't a big name at the time. Sure, everyone had heard of Brosnan when he was cast, but his career hadn't really been huge.
Yeah but does he have Charisma?
RollaFett
08-15-2004, 01:23 AM
Good question, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Justin
08-15-2004, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Aug 14 2004, 09:06 PM
Yeah but does he have Charisma?
I'd like to have Charisma. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif
P-Ray
09-12-2004, 02:49 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=6342
bigscreensatellite
09-12-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Sep 12 2004, 12:49 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=6342
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>
interesting - i think Dougray is a good choice for a replacement Bond, if thats the case - but i'd trust the Mirror about as much as Greedo...still its a rumour thats not been suggested before, as far as i know...
P-Ray
09-30-2004, 08:19 AM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=6569
bigscreensatellite
09-30-2004, 08:26 AM
this comes as no surprise to me...no signed on star, no helmer, no idea of any actual story...just about 1 year to make it....
(also as i've said before - i seriously think EON & MGM are also taking stock to re-evaluate the Bond series)
why rush it and fxxk it up anyway...we don't need Bond 21 to be crap...therefore we don't need it in November 2005...make a good bond - relase it in the summer...2006...make it a summer blockbuster
P-Ray
09-30-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by bigscreensatellite@Sep 30 2004, 06:26 AM
this comes as no surprise to me...no signed on star, no helmer, no idea of any actual story...just about 1 year to make it....
(also as i've said before - i seriously think EON & MGM are also taking stock to re-evaluate the Bond series)
why rush it and fxxk it up anyway...we don't need Bond 21 to be crap...therefore we don't need it in November 2005...make a good bond - relase it in the summer...2006...make it a summer blockbuster
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>
Yes, they really need to concentrate on a good story especially with the success of the Bourne series.
Justin
09-30-2004, 02:50 PM
I think they should release it in November 2006. And I'd really like to know more about why they don't want Pierce Brosnan to return.
bigscreensatellite
09-30-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Sep 30 2004, 12:50 PM
I think they should release it in November 2006. And I'd really like to know more about why they don't want Pierce Brosnan to return.
<div align="right">Quoted post</div>
mainly because 'they' the studio are rumoured to want to cast a younger Bond...and that Brosnan has also stated in Entertainment Weekly..."Bond is a lifetime behind..." him, (he later retracted this statement) but either way - EON & MGM need to assess the franchise and want to take Bond back to basics - i think they are running scared of the young actors in films like 'Bourne' which have become a major success without big explosions and CGI effects of Bond 20....
i'd like Brosnan back, but a younger bond may help save the day also....either way its 2006....not next year so more rumours are bound to surface
Master Shrive
10-03-2004, 10:55 PM
I agree that they shouldn't rush the next film, but take their time and get it right. 007 doesn't own the spy genre like it used to, so it needs to make sure its different than the rest but keeps the recepie that made it successful in the first place.
Soontir Solo
10-04-2004, 12:48 AM
I think the Bond movies are going down hill. Goldeneye was good, but since then they haven't been all that great. The story's just keep getting more and more ridiculous. The last movie was just stupid with the WMD in space that was basically just concentrated heat.
Master Shrive
10-04-2004, 12:55 AM
^I enjoyed the last one, but I think I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to movies and books.
Obi-Stu
10-04-2004, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by bigscreensatellite+Sep 30 2004, 09:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigscreensatellite @ Sep 30 2004, 09:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Sep 30 2004, 12:50 PM
I think they should release it in November 2006.* And I'd really like to know more about why they don't want Pierce Brosnan to return.
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mainly because 'they' the studio are rumoured to want to cast a younger Bond...and that Brosnan has also stated in Entertainment Weekly..."Bond is a lifetime behind..." him, (he later retracted this statement) but either way - EON & MGM need to assess the franchise and want to take Bond back to basics - i think they are running scared of the young actors in films like 'Bourne' which have become a major success without big explosions and CGI effects of Bond 20....
i'd like Brosnan back, but a younger bond may help save the day also....either way its 2006....not next year so more rumours are bound to surface
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Killermovies.com had this to say today. MGM Stops Work On 'James Bond 21' (http://www.killermovies.com/j/jamesbond21/articles/4475.html)
P-Ray
10-04-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Soontir Solo@Oct 3 2004, 10:48 PM
I think the Bond movies are going down hill. Goldeneye was good, but since then they haven't been all that great. The story's just keep getting more and more ridiculous. The last movie was just stupid with the WMD in space that was basically just concentrated heat.
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I think all of Pierce Brosnan's bond movies are great! The only one that is a little weak is "The World is not Enough".
T-bone
10-04-2004, 01:33 PM
Sony to Find '007' Heirs Have a License to Kill
By Claudia Eller Times Staff Writer
It's easy to name the crown jewel in the thousands of movies Sony Corp will inherit when it takes control of legendary film studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
That name is Bond … James Bond.
For four decades, studio chiefs and movie directors have craved the opportunity to put their imprint on the $1-billion franchise that is Hollywood's most successful film series ever. Already, months before they officially acquire MGM, Sony's top movie executives are mulling over ways to refresh the vodka-martini-sipping secret agent.
The prospective new owners, according to sources familiar with Sony's thinking, hope to broaden Bond's appeal beyond older males enamored with the fiery explosions, careening Aston Martins and buxom models. They're aiming for the kind of global audiences that flocked to Sony's "Spider-Man" blockbusters, believing there should be more to Bond's character than machismo.
But Sony will soon learn that many a studio executive has been shaken and stirred when pitted against Agent 007's off-camera bodyguards. Shielding Bond from the minefields of Hollywood pitches are producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, her half brother.
They are the intensely private and fiercely protective heirs guarding the legacy of their late father, Albert R. "Cubby" Broccoli, a Long Island vegetable farmer-turned-Hollywood showman who almost single-handedly built author Ian Fleming's secret agent into a global star and pop culture icon.
"The Sony executives may have stars in their eyes right now as they dream of what James Bond can be now that he's theirs," said Lindsay Doran, who headed MGM's United Artists unit during the making of two Bond films. "But they might get their hearts broken, like so many executives before them, if they look at the deal and realize he's not theirs, he's the Broccolis'."
The Broccolis possess a unique license to kill ideas they don't like. Among the casualties: giving Bond a son, exploring his darker side as a paid assassin and even one top actor's take that the misogynous womanizer is latently homosexual. So protective are Broccoli's heirs that they once commissioned a confidential 60-page Bond "character bible" that continues to serve as something of an owners' manual. What kind of woman does 007 seduce? What does he wear? How nasty are the villains he battles?
"Every decision they make starts with the question: 'Is this in the tradition of Bond? Is this the right thing for the franchise?' " MGM Vice Chairman Chris McGurk said. "They know Bond better than anyone else."
No creative decision is made without the blessing of Broccoli's daughter, Barbara, 44, and stepson Wilson, 62. Their late mother was Broccoli's third wife, Dana. The two split time between their London production base where Bond is filmed and Los Angeles.
Working as a team, the producers pore over every script. They decide where in the movie Bond's signature guitar-twanging theme song plays. They sign off on the director, star, even some of the actors playing minor characters. They are on the set every day of filming, and sit in on editing sessions. Movie trailers, posters and TV spots need their OK.
"Barbara and Michael have infinitely more to do with it than any studio," said Roger Spottiswoode, who directed 1997's "Tomorrow Never Dies." "MGM would come up with some new idea and Barbara would say, 'That's not right for Bond.' "
The producers' far-reaching creative rights were first granted to Cubby Broccoli when he and a partner forged the Bond production deal in 1961 with United Artists, acquired 20 years later by MGM. Broccoli's heirs inherited those rights when Cubby died of heart failure in 1996.
The Broccolis and MGM technically have equal say on creative matters. But, MGM's McGurk acknowledged, "while everything is equal, they take the lead in all creative choices."
Broccoli and Wilson declined to be interviewed, as did Sony executives. But speaking about her father for a documentary included in the "Diamonds Are Forever" DVD, Barbara Broccoli said: "I remember one time he said to me, 'You know, the most important thing is don't let 'em screw it up.' "
Lately, Broccoli and Wilson have flexed their muscle on who will next slip into Bond's tuxedo. The producers nixed actor Pierce Brosnan even though the four films in which he starred were the highest-grossing of the 20-film series. Broccoli and Wilson have let Hollywood agents know they want to replace the 51-year-old Brosnan with a Bond who is 28 to 32 years old.
"We've shared weddings and funerals and the births of children," Brosnan said. "We've had a lot of success together. But as to the fate of the franchise, you have to remember that at the end of the day, it's the Broccolis' family business."
The producers also postponed the next Bond film, which sources identified as based on Fleming's novel "Casino Royale," until they can find a director and star. That pushes its release from next year into 2006.
With that film, Sony will begin reaping the riches from Hollywood's longest-running franchise, which has amassed $3.7 billion in global ticket sales, most from overseas. The last film, 2002's "Die Another Day" grossed $430 million worldwide, the most for any Bond installment.
Since "Dr. No's" debut in 1962, profits have gushed in from virtually all of the Bond films produced by the Broccoli family, regardless of whether Agent 007 was played by such stalwarts as Sean Connery, Roger Moore and Brosnan or the less memorable Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby.
Each time a new film hits theaters, old Bond movies generate millions of dollars in DVD sales and TV airings. The Broccoli family takes home 20% to 35% of the profit on each film. (Because of murky underlying rights, the only two Bond films not produced by the Broccoli family were Columbia Pictures' 1967 spoof of "Casino Royale" and Warner Bros.' 1983 release "Never Say Never Again.")
The gold Cubby Broccoli struck came amid a chorus of naysayers, including author Fleming, who believed that Bond had limited cinema appeal. But Broccoli was an accomplished salesman of big action movies, having honed his skills early in life hawking caskets and jewelry.
The son of Italian immigrant farmers, Broccoli moved to Hollywood in the 1930s. Before long, he was making large-scale adventure films for Columbia Pictures and became one of Hollywood's most colorful impresarios, trucking snow to his Beverly Hills mansion for a Christmas party.
A fan of Fleming's books, Broccoli always wanted to make Bond films but didn't own the rights. A mutual friend introduced him to the man who did, Harry Saltzman, who was broke with 28 days left before his option expired. The two paid a visit to United Artists Chairman Arthur Krim's Manhattan office.
Krim was no stranger to the Bond character. The UA chief had been introduced to the spy novels by his friend, President John F. Kennedy, whose enthusiasm for the books helped popularize them.
Krim adhered to the philosophy of UA dating back to its founding in 1919 by Charlie Chaplin, Douglas Fairbanks, Mark Pickford and director D. W. Griffith. They believed that filmmakers made better creative decisions than executives.
UA's then-production chief David Picker was in the room when Broccoli and Saltzman asked for money to bring Bond to the screen. "They came in and said 'We control James Bond,' " said Picker, a Fleming fan who earlier had tried to land the movie rights. "We wouldn't let them out of the room before we had a deal."
Today, that deal has survived as one of the most unique, hands-off studio arrangements ever.
During the ensuing decades, the Broccoli family has gone through almost as many studio executives as Bond has bikini-clad girlfriends.
MGM and United Artists have been bought and sold at least a half-dozen times, with new executives bringing new ideas. Director Michael Apted said his 1999 Bond film "The World Is Not Enough" endured two studio regimes.
"You've got people who constantly want to reinvent the franchise," Apted said. "That has historically been the source of serious tensions between the ever-changing managements of MGM and the Broccolis."
Sometimes those differences reach a boiling point.
"I remember Barbara shouting at MGM, 'Don't tell me how Bond should be. I intend to still be making these Bond films in 10 years, and you may not even be in business,' " director Spottiswoode said.
There is, however, give and take. On "Die Another Day," the Broccoli family relented to MGM's choice of female lead Halle Berry as girlfriend while the studio acquiesced to hiring director Lee Tamahori.
But the producers compromise only so much. They shot down MGM's idea for a TV show featuring a young James Bond. For years, they have resisted studio research screenings.
"When anyone at the studio tries to force anything on them, that's when they get their backs up," former MGM distribution chief Larry Gleason said. "In reality, it comes down to MGM financing the movies and the Broccolis having creative control."
Still, those who have worked with the producers say they realize Bond needs to appeal to today's moviegoers, some of whom complain that the films have become too formulaic and predictable. The trick in reworking Bond is not to alienate core fans, who know that Oddjob drove a 1964 Ranchero in "Goldfinger."
One radical departure that might have been sacrilegious to an earlier generation of Bond fans came in 1995's "GoldenEye." Oscar-winning British actress Judi Dench was hired to begin playing his boss, "M." Earlier films showed the character as a crusty, authoritative man mostly played by the late actor Bernard Lee.
"Barbara and Michael acknowledge that Bond needs to change as the times change," said former UA production executive Jeff Kleeman. "But if you're going to change the classic Bond, you don't do it accidentally or out of ignorance."
As eager as Sony executives are to get their hands on Bond, legal reasons prevent them from contacting the producers until MGM shareholders bless the pending $4.9-billion acquisition by Sony's investment group later this year.
But a pilgrimage to the producers' London headquarters is a top priority for Sony Pictures boss Michael Lynton and movie chief Amy Pascal.
When they finally capture the secret agent, Spottiswoode has some advice: Back off.
"Sony is incredibly lucky and would be very well-advised to leave the franchise alone," Spottiswoode said. "The Broccolis make it work."
Times librarian John L. Jackson contributed to this report.
Master Shrive
10-05-2004, 01:06 AM
Hhmmm. Interesting. It doesn't really seem that the franchise is going down hill does it? It also doesn't look like there are any major changes planned for the near future!
And 007 having a son?! Could have been interesting, although I expect he'd have about 21 of them.
I'd like to see bond work with a couple of other 00 agents like in Goldeneye. I enjoyed seeing someone else from his line of work.
P-Ray
10-19-2004, 12:33 PM
http://www.iesb.net/movies2/movie101904.php
decent choice if true?
P-Ray
11-07-2004, 03:39 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=7082
Julian mcmahon takes a pass!
Momin327
11-07-2004, 04:10 PM
Has anyone seen "Diamonds are Forever"?
P-Ray
11-07-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Momin327@Nov 7 2004, 03:10 PM
Has anyone seen "Diamonds are Forever"?
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Yes, it' probably my favorite Sean Connery Bond movie.
Kapit
11-07-2004, 08:09 PM
p-ray, i bet you a dollar momin is talking aboot the girl in the bikini
Master Shrive
11-07-2004, 08:24 PM
^Pretty sure I've seen DAF. I still have at least one movie to see but I'm pretty sure I've seen it.
Also, I've just seen Ewan MeGregor in a couple more movies and I do think he could be a good bond.
Kapit
11-07-2004, 08:26 PM
i agree, i think ewan would make a great bond
then he could say he's been in the two biggest movie franchises
Momin327
11-07-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by JediKaputski@Nov 7 2004, 07:09 PM
p-ray, i bet you a dollar momin is talking aboot the girl in the bikini
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How did you know?!
Kapit
11-07-2004, 08:48 PM
talked to you yesterday, buddy
Momin327
11-07-2004, 08:51 PM
Oh, right. She was hot. I actually liked her bikini more than Ursula Andress' bikini in Dr. No.
P-Ray
11-07-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Momin327@Nov 7 2004, 07:51 PM
Oh, right. She was hot. I actually liked her bikini more than Ursula Andress' bikini in Dr. No.
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Are you talking about Bambi and/or Thumper?
Momin327
11-08-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray+Nov 7 2004, 09:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Nov 7 2004, 09:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Momin327@Nov 7 2004, 07:51 PM
Oh, right. She was hot. I actually liked her bikini more than Ursula Andress' bikini in Dr. No.
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Are you talking about Bambi and/or Thumper?
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The main Bond girl in that movie. Tiffany Case, if I remember her name correctly.
bigscreensatellite
11-09-2004, 04:31 PM
this'll help clear this up style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
http://www.sol.no/multimedia/archive/02115...hn_2115738a.jpg (http://www.sol.no/multimedia/archive/02115/jill-st-john_2115738a.jpg)
BobaBen
11-09-2004, 05:00 PM
So Colin Farrel wont do it Big Woop. I think the best thing to do is to bury this turkey and just have the clasic movies. They had good source matieral with flemings novles but know they have nothing so they should just stop while they slope futher down the hill.
Ben
Master Shrive
11-09-2004, 08:11 PM
^I would say some of the movies that aren't based on novels have also been very good. I don't think Goldeneye was based on one of flemmnigs novels, and it was VERY good.
P-Ray
11-18-2004, 01:02 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=7280
Reed Richards as 007?
P-Ray
11-24-2004, 06:39 PM
http://www.inlandempirestrikesback.net/mov...ovie112404b.php (http://www.inlandempirestrikesback.net/movies2/movie112404b.php)
bigscreensatellite
11-24-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray@Nov 24 2004, 05:39 PM
http://www.inlandempirestrikesback.net/mov...ovie112404b.php (http://www.inlandempirestrikesback.net/movies2/movie112404b.php)
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i soooo hope Ewan does it...he is the perfect choice in my mind....
Momin327
11-25-2004, 09:12 PM
Hey, guys. There's a Bond movie marathon on Spike TV.
Obi-Stu
11-26-2004, 02:00 AM
This is on killermovies.com this morning:
<span style="color:green">Ioan Gruffudd Lined Up For 'James Bond 21'?
[Thursday, November 25th, 2004]
Welsh actor Ioan Gruffudd is thought to be the only actor being considered to play the Bond role in James Bond 21.
Gruffudd is said to be deep in talks with EON Productions to take over the role from Pierce Brosnan.
A 'top industry source' told Moviehole.net, "Naturally, others may float into the mix, but at the moment, he's the only guy that EON are seriously considering for the role."</span>
Anyone know anything about Ioan Gruffudd?
Crazydude
11-26-2004, 05:52 AM
He was in King Arthur this summer.
I think Clive Owen should just accept the role with Closer going to get him an Oscar nod, it would be a great help.
P-Ray
11-26-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Crazydude@Nov 26 2004, 04:52 AM
He was in King Arthur this summer.
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He's also going to be in the Fantastic 4 movie as Reed Richards.
P-Ray
11-26-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Momin327@Nov 25 2004, 08:12 PM
Hey, guys. There's a Bond movie marathon on Spike TV.
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I don't have time for them right now, but thankfully I have them all on DVD. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
P-Ray
11-26-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by P-Ray+Nov 26 2004, 09:25 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P-Ray @ Nov 26 2004, 09:25 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Crazydude@Nov 26 2004, 04:52 AM
He was in King Arthur this summer.
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He's also going to be in the Fantastic 4 movie as Reed Richards.
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Here is a picture of him.
P-Ray
02-03-2005, 10:17 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8215
Casino Royale next Bond movie!
Virus
02-03-2005, 11:34 PM
wasnt that the title of one of the first 007 novels?
P-Ray
02-04-2005, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Virus@Feb 3 2005, 10:34 PM
wasnt that the title of one of the first 007 novels?
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Yes! plus there is already a 007 Casino Royale movie made with David Niven.
The Director of Beyond Borders (A movie with Clive Owen) Martin Campbell is doing the film. CLIVE OWEN IS JAMES BOND!
Justin
02-04-2005, 07:24 AM
Heyyyyy...how did you get back here?
Count Dookie
02-05-2005, 10:58 AM
Yeh Haw style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif Mann's back!!!
Virus
02-06-2005, 01:36 PM
Back from the dead! I here some people shaking in their boots style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
As for Clive Owen being 007, yes he looks like it and is from the UK. Thats basically all you need. However, he is already 40 years old and they wont be able to get too much bond out of him before it looks gross when he makes a pass at a bond girl. Remember View to Kill? Gross!
Originally posted by Justin@Feb 4 2005, 11:24 AM
Heyyyyy...how did you get back here?
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I went to anger management. Worked out my issues, and decided to be a nice guy!
Originally posted by Virus@Feb 6 2005, 05:36 PM
Back from the dead! I here some people shaking in their boots style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
As for Clive Owen being 007, yes he looks like it and is from the UK. Thats basically all you need. However, he is already 40 years old and they wont be able to get too much bond out of him before it looks gross when he makes a pass at a bond girl. Remember View to Kill? Gross!
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he, Clive Owen LOOKS manly. I like a real man, not a wannbe sexy feminine guy. I mean Jude Law=womanly. Clive Owen has the rugedly handsome face that could last him year. Pierce Brosnan was doing this way into his 40s.
Virus
02-07-2005, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Mann+Feb 7 2005, 07:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Feb 7 2005, 07:09 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Virus@Feb 6 2005, 05:36 PM
Back from the dead!* I here some people shaking in their boots style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif*
As for Clive Owen being 007, yes he looks like it and is from the UK.* Thats basically all you need.* However, he is already 40 years old and they wont be able to get too much bond out of him before it looks gross when he makes a pass at a bond girl.* Remember View to Kill?* Gross!
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he, Clive Owen LOOKS manly. I like a real man, not a wannbe sexy feminine guy. I mean Jude Law=womanly. Clive Owen has the rugedly handsome face that could last him year. Pierce Brosnan was doing this way into his 40s.
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I completely agree and especially the part about Jude Law. Law would be able to put on as many years as Moore but he looks too girly and wimpy. I just think that Owen would be starting the game too late and I dont wanna see a bum like Brosnan and do only, I repeat, ONLY 4 movies. Thats nothing. They need someone around 35 or older (I know its only 5 years but it makes the difference). Moore and Connery I believe started in their late 30s
4 Bond Movies is pretty good. I mean we can't all be Roger Moore and do 7. But doing 4 movies of any series is probably really hard.
And IMDB has Roger moore being a Whoping 46 (!) in Live and Let die! The guy is older than Sean Connery!
Virus
02-09-2005, 09:41 PM
Oups, my bad. I did read that but Moore has a baby face
Believe me, I thought Roger Moore was younger than that. It surprises me he was THAT old.
Master Shrive
02-10-2005, 02:05 AM
Another thing is, back in those days they made the movies a lot closer together, to 3+ years apart.
Virus
02-13-2005, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Master Shrive@Feb 10 2005, 01:05 AM
Another thing is, back in those days they made the movies a lot closer together, to 3+ years apart.
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Not true. Die Another Day took 3 years whereas every other James Bond movie has taken less than 2 years to make. I'm not counting the delay between Dalton and Brosnan because that was for other reasons.
I just watched The Living Daylights tonight and its one of my favorite Bond movies. Sure Dalton isn't the best cause his take on 007 is so different but the story and villians are great! This just shows that everytime a new actor takes on the role of James Bond, its a great movie. Dr No, Live and Let Die, The Living Daylights and Goldeneye (I guess Her Majestys Royal Service is good). I can't wait to see Casino Royale. Should be amazing no matter who they got doing Bond
bigscreensatellite
02-14-2005, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Virus+Feb 13 2005, 07:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Virus @ Feb 13 2005, 07:40 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Master Shrive@Feb 10 2005, 01:05 AM
Another thing is, back in those days they made the movies a lot closer together, to 3+ years apart.
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I just watched The Living Daylights tonight and its one of my favorite Bond movies. Sure Dalton isn't the best cause his take on 007 is so different but the story and villians are great! This just shows that everytime a new actor takes on the role of James Bond, its a great movie. Dr No, Live and Let Die, The Living Daylights and Goldeneye (I guess Her Majestys Royal Service is good). I can't wait to see Casino Royale. Should be amazing no matter who they got doing Bond
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supposedly, whatever people think of TD - he was Bond as Flemming invisaged him, ie. he played Bond most like Bond should be played, based upon the books character...cold and calculating, rather than the lady chasing Connery or campish Moore, or wisecracking smoothy, Brosnan...
Master Shrive
02-15-2005, 12:20 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Not true. Die Another Day took 3 years whereas every other James Bond movie has taken less than 2 years to make. I'm not counting the delay between Dalton and Brosnan because that was for other reasons. [/b][/quote]
My mistake. I'm not sure why I thought that. And I agree that the delay between Dalton and Brosnan doesn't matter.
P-Ray
02-24-2005, 07:35 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8502
Director Martin Campbell!
Master Shrive
02-24-2005, 10:10 PM
I like the sound of that. That fact that he directed Goldeneye is good enough for me!
Virus
02-25-2005, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Master Shrive@Feb 24 2005, 09:10 PM
I like the sound of that. That fact that he directed Goldeneye is good enough for me!
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I completely agree. Goldeneye is one of my top fav movies for 007 if not the best one. Its a pure classic. This guy had a good mindset doing this movie with a new Bond actor and he should have the same idea with a new Bond
empire21
02-25-2005, 01:02 AM
^in total agreement.
P-Ray
02-25-2005, 01:21 AM
Yes, the powers that be definitely definitely made a good choice for director knowing that they had to start over.
Justin
02-25-2005, 03:45 AM
Oh man, that's awesome! They're doing exactly what I said they should do, go back to when Bond is just starting out...now it makes sense that they are casting a younger actor. I will still miss Pierce Brosnan though and would have liked to see him make one last GOOD Bond movie.
Although that doesn't mean he can't ever come back and play 007 again.
I am glad they are going for more gritty and realistic as opposed to crazy stunts and VFX.
Master Shrive
02-25-2005, 05:33 AM
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Thats true, although I doubt he would.
On another note though, I'm still not quite sure what time frame this movie will be set in. If its set current day but as a younger bond, any continuallity between the movies will go out the window.
Sam Kenobi
02-25-2005, 08:26 AM
Hopefully Ewan McGreggor will get the part . . .
Talcy
02-25-2005, 08:50 AM
They need someone who isn't going to bring too much baggage to the role.
All of these names that continually get mentioned, like Clive Owen, Ewan McGregor, Hugh Jackman, etc - I don't think there's anything to them. They're compiled by bookies like William Hill & Ladbrokes to simply create a betting craze - the list gets into showbiz gossip columns and people start talking more about it and folks place bets.
I think we'll be quietly surprised by whoever they choose to play Bond. I don;t think it's going to be anyone on one of these lists, apart from maybe Julian McMahon (although Dr Doom may seal his fate, I think) or maybe even James Purefoy.
If Clive Owen says yes, MArtin Campbell will go for him.
everyone in Hollywood thinks Clive is the next James Bond.
P-Ray
02-25-2005, 04:07 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8520
Julian McMahon?
Justin
02-25-2005, 04:29 PM
That doesn't make sense. If they're doing a prequel about Bond in the beginning of his career, why would they cast someone who was in their late 30's? I think he should be about 28, or at the most 31.
As far as the continuity thing goes, I think every time they have gotten a new actor to play Bond the continuity is slightly different, with an understanding that the previous movies happened but are not exactly part of the same continuity.
Get me? For example, I don't think GoldenEye is a sequel to The Spy Who Loved Me.
Master Shrive
02-26-2005, 01:09 AM
^Yeah, I certainly wouldn't say its a sequal, but you could say the evets take place one after the other. All the Bonds go through the Cold War era and work there way to the present - M even tells 007 hes a relic of the cold war.
I'm just wondering if the sequal will be set in the time just before the cold war, or if they're going to go with a current day prequal (which to me, doesn't make much sense). Of course, the other problem with a sequal is that characters like M and Q are going to be played by post-Cold War actors, which could get very confusing, especially to anyone new to the series.
We'll just have to see how it pans out....
P-Ray
03-13-2005, 11:34 PM
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19636
Possibly between 2 choices.
Master Shrive
03-14-2005, 12:24 AM
Interesting. Niether of them were on my preference list, but only time will tell...
P-Ray
03-28-2005, 04:56 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8960
Orlando Bloom?
P-Ray
03-29-2005, 10:45 AM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8969
Now it's Clive Owen again! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/giveup.gif Pick one already!!!
Master Shrive
04-02-2005, 01:32 AM
Round and round the rumours go...
Daibutsusan73
04-02-2005, 05:44 AM
Wasn't Bond originally a WWII sniper? I also thought that originally he was actually more of an assasin for the british gov. than a spy per say.
I think a prequil that features these things (if I'm correct) would be awsome.
Virus
04-02-2005, 01:52 PM
just read that John Cleese isn't going to come back.............kinda lame on his part. I never liked him anyway but still
Master Shrive
04-02-2005, 11:55 PM
^Thats crap if he doesn't come back. I never minded him (very hard to replace a character thats been in the series so long), but I thought he'd stay around for awhile yet!
T-bone
04-07-2005, 03:03 AM
Entertainment - AFP
British actor Daniel Craig picked as new James Bond
Wed Apr 6, 7:49 AM ET Entertainment - AFP
LONDON (AFP) - The producers of the hugely successful James Bond film franchise have chosen British actor Daniel Craig to take over the role of the suave super-spy, a report said.
The 37-year-old has been offered a three-film deal by Bond producer Barbara Broccoli and is expected to sign up formally in the next few weeks, The Sun newspaper reported Wednesday.
Craig, a tough-looking character actor who has mixed up appearances in many art-house titles with roles in blockbusters such as "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider", just beat fellow Briton Clive Owen for the role, the report said.
Craig would be the sixth Bond in the official series of films based on the novels by Ian Fleming, following Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and most recent incumbent Pierce Brosnan.
According to The Sun, Owen -- nominated for an Oscar this year for film "Closer" -- had told casting agents he did not want the job, although Broccoli was already favouring Craig.
While Craig remains relatively unknown outside Britain, he is well respected as an actor and also has the necessary reputation for being something of a Bond-esque ladies man, having recently dated supermodel Kate Moss.
Citing an unnamed "movie source", The Sun said that staff working at Eon Productions, which makes the Bond movies, had been told Craig would star in the next films.
"Daniel is the new 007. He is going through the deal with his lawyers. It's a big commitment for a minimum of 10 years, but he has indicated he will take the job," the source said.
Brosnan's last film as Bond was "Die Another Day" in 2002. Since then a string of possible replacements have been mooted, including Britons Jude Law and Ewan McGregor and Australian actors Hugh Jackman and Eric Bana.
Fleming's novels chronicling the adventures of the British spy codenamed 007 were first turned into a film in 1962, with "Dr No".
Justin
04-07-2005, 03:28 AM
The Bond people have been making very poor decisions. First off, and most obviously, if they take their time and do it right and release it in 2007 it would be awesome. Think about it...the year ends in 007. Can they really be so clueless as to miss this one-time-ever perfect date?
Also, Brosnan's last one was the most successful James Bond movie ever, and he's not that old. He's still cool and was keen to do another one. He's a big star. Why would they ditch him when they could do one last good Bond movie with him? There must have been something personal going on there.
And this guy Daniel Craig doesn't really have the Bond look, if you know what I mean.
I don't know, the whole business kind of sucks. I predict that this will kill the franchise. I personally am not at all interested in spending 9 bucks to see this in the theater because it seems like it is going down the wrong track, and they are missing some great opportunities.
I will wait for the DVD when I can get it for free.
Master Shrive
04-07-2005, 03:31 AM
Interesting info T. Mind you, I'll belive it for sure when I see it in the news over here down under!
On another note, was Lazenby bond after Moore or are the actors listed not in order? I always thought it went Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton, Brosnan. Of course, I don't really know why I think it goes in this order...
I agree Justin that Brosnan should have done one more moive, and 2007 and would have been perfect. Sadly, its not to be.
And if anyones got some pictures of this guy mentioned above, it probably wouldn't hurt to know what he looks like. I would, but I've got to go to class style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/s