View Full Version : Obi-Wan and Jango Fight
Count Dooku
06-16-2002, 02:29 AM
This really bothers me, people said Jango kicked Obi's ass. Why I think Obi-Wan lost is because first Boba was firing at Obi-Wan, then Obi-Wan was being attacked by Jango so what do you expect? Plus that rocket launcing towards Obi-Wan, although the fighting was pretty cool, Obi-Wan did get wasted but im sure he was tired, by the way what did people think of the fight? I liked it.
Polunis
06-16-2002, 02:33 AM
I concur with you; it was an excellent fight. Let's face it, for the chips were stacked against Obi-Wan in the fight; it was most easy for Jango to fly away like a coward instead of standing his ground. You are correct about the Boba Fett cheap shot costing Obi some initiative. Obi did, however, put up a formidable fight. If Jango was really thrashing Obi-Wan, he should have been able to finish him off. We all know how the fight ended; the bounty hunter turned tail and escaped style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
Count Dooku
06-16-2002, 02:38 AM
<span style='color:red'>I agree with you 100%. That little Boba is sure smart, and mean *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif</span>
Polunis
06-16-2002, 02:44 AM
I concur with you on that point as well. That boy is obviously a punk...even at such an early age. I can venture a guess that Boba Fett will not make one of the most personable chaps in the galaxy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
I think some anger-management training could do that boy some good; perhaps he and Anakin could start their own group therapy sessions. I do not think, however, that this angle will be explored style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unhappy.gif
threeP0
06-16-2002, 04:21 PM
Yeah, the only reason Jango was able to win was because he had his son and his ship sort of triple teaming Obi-Wan so to speak. I think if you put Obi-Wan and Jango in a big old arena with nothing in it but both of them Obi-Wan would come out the winner.
Besides, Mace Windu was able to take Jango out rather easily when they fought
RollaFett
06-17-2002, 12:30 AM
Alright people, I think that i've heard about enough of this nonsense! :sly:
Did you forget that Obi-Wan is a Jedi or something? Why does Jango using his jetpack make him a coward? Look what happened when he couldn't use it against Windu? Stand his ground?! C'mon now, nobody can stand their ground against a Jedi with a lightsaber in close quarters and expect to survive!
Then you guys complain that he had Boba helping him?! So what?! Didn't Obi-Wan himself partake in a double team with Qui-Gon against Darth Maul?
When you're taking on a Jedi unexpectedly, and you have a jetpack with a firing rocket and a fully loaded ship at your disposal, wouldn't you try and use these tools as well? Just standing around with a blaster wasn't going to get it done. And when they both were without thier weapons of choice, Jango did a pretty good job, I thought.
Count Dooku
06-17-2002, 01:06 AM
Jango is one of my favorite characters but why couldn't he face Obi-Wan face to face? No Boba he could use his high tech weapons, and Obi-Wan can use his lightsaber. A battle between the two. Of course Obi-Wan is a Jedi and all but I think it would have been better just to see the two fight one on one.
Vyndim
06-17-2002, 01:09 AM
Just a thought, we saw that Jango had blades on his arms...In the fight why didn't he just hit Obi-Wan with one of those? He got a few good punches on him, switch that with a few hits from those blades and you'd have one sliced and diced Obi-Wan...Personally I don't think Jango was thinking when he was fighting with Obi-Wan. He had several chances to finish him, but he made bad choices.
The only one
06-17-2002, 02:36 AM
it was also raining, the rain would have made obi 's robes heavy so he couldnt move as well jango's armor wouldnt get as wet. obi may also not have been able to see as well in the rain this made him look like a new jedi. and if i was jango i would have thrown every thing at him, first rule in the book dont mess with a jedi they are some bad mo foes
Swamprat_Jedi_Knight
06-18-2002, 12:59 AM
You can't blame Boba and Jango for double teaming him. If you were Boba would you just stand there and watch your dad fight, or would you try to help him? I think that if I were put up against a Jedi I would surender, but if that wasn't an option I would throw everything at him, including the blaster cannons on my starship if I had to. Jedi are not to be messed with.
RollaFett
06-18-2002, 01:10 AM
Vyndim- You make a real good point about the blades that Jango had, he should've used them, also that flame thrower couldn't have hurt either.
Count Dooku- My point about fighting a Jedi one on one is this: Jedi's use lightsabers. In close quarter combat, a lightsaber will win, plain and simple. A blaster is good to have, but when your foe is simply deflecting the shots away and moving in closer for the kill, your best option is to get away with your jetpack, assuming you have one, don't you think?
Like I said earlier, Jango couldn't use his jetpack when facing Mace Windu, because it was damaged when he was trampled by the reek, so he got his head sliced off.
To combine what The only one and Swamprat said, "Jedi are some bad mofo's and are not to be messed with."
Wolfe_13
06-18-2002, 01:23 AM
True, Imagine this. A weapon of razor sharpness that can melt two feet of steel with out a problem and can send projectiles such as bullets (blaster bolts) at the foe that was just shooting them. That itsel is freakin nuts, not to mention having a master at it behind the glowingness. Wow. " Run away, Run away, Run away!!!!!!!!!!"
Polunis
06-18-2002, 01:50 AM
If Jango thinks himself tough, he ought to prove it. Running away preserves one's life but not one's honor. I agree with all of you on the prudence of making the match uneven, but I prefer a fair fight.
RollaFett
06-18-2002, 09:40 AM
Again, I don't see how using the jetpack is considered cowardly. He was not running away. He was getting out of the way of a LIGHTSABER!!!!!
RollaFett
06-18-2002, 09:46 AM
Again, I don't see how using the jetpack is considered cowardly. He was not running away. He was getting out of the way of a LIGHTSABER!!!!! Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?! Answer this: When Obi Wan and Anakin are in the helicoptor type ship on Geonosis chasing Dooku and Anakin wants to jump out to help Padme, is Obi Wan considered a coward because he says he can't take Dooku alone? Is he afraid? No, just smart. He's battled a Sith before and knows how tough they can be. I'm sure Jango know just how tough a Jedi can be and as a reault of that, he uses his arsenal appropriately. To reiterate a point: Obi Wan Kenobi is a Jedi, he has a lightsaber! Jango is "just a guy trying to make it in the universe" with no lightsaber. You figure out the rest.
Count Dooku
06-18-2002, 06:03 PM
<span style='color:red'>Yeah if I was a Bounty Hunter I'd use my Jetpack to get away, but just give Jango a lightsaber and it'll be fair style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif</span>
RollaFett
06-18-2002, 09:38 PM
Now that is something I would've liked to see.
wagnike2
06-19-2002, 02:25 AM
i don't really think that obi wan lost or whatever i mean it was a pretty even fight even with jango just flying around most of the time and in the end no one dies jango leaves in the ship..
Polunis
06-19-2002, 02:34 AM
Good point, wagnike2; I think it was a draw.
Swamprat_Jedi_Knight
06-19-2002, 12:44 PM
If Jango thinks himself tough, he ought to prove it. I think having a confrontation with a Jedi...getting away...and living, is proof enough. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
Polunis
06-19-2002, 01:21 PM
I think having a confrontation with a Jedi...getting away...and living, is proof enough. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
You do have a point, but simply escaping from a Jedi would not, IMHO, constitute proof of one's merits as a warrior. I am not saying he isn't tough, because there is a reason why he is considered the most feared bounty hunter in the Galaxy; however, I do not think his fight with Obi-Wan showed his toughness, but some will be inclined to disagree, which is fine.
bodhisattva yoda
06-19-2002, 03:18 PM
has anyone considered that perhaps obi-wan didn't intend to kill jango? during the space battle sequence, obi-wan was only trying to evade jango's attacks. obi-wan wanted to follow jango, not defeat him.
Polunis
06-19-2002, 06:52 PM
Yes, Obi-Wan was supposed to capture him, and bring him before the Jedi Council for interrogation; how he would have gone about doing that is beyond me.
RollaFett
06-21-2002, 01:08 AM
Polunis- I am one who disagrees. Please explian to me how Jango should be thought of as less of a man. Please take into account that Obi Wan Kenobi is a Jedi Knight. That means he has special powers, if you forgot. Plus, his primary weapon happens to be a lightsaber.
Isomorph
06-21-2002, 02:05 AM
All in all I think the fight with Obi-Wan and the Fetts was evenly matched considering Obi has powers that the fetts don't when you are a jedi and choose to take on dangerous people then you really can't expect the bad guys to play fair,its all about the last man standing.So in my opinion Obi-Wan kicked some serious butt and proved he was a great Jedi Knight,just as Jango proved himself to be a dangerous bounty hunter.
Polunis
06-21-2002, 02:33 AM
I can understand your point of disagreement, but Jango had the weapons to take on Obi-Wan...flamethrower, anyone? A flamethrower can do some serious damage up close. He also has the blades, of course, so I am finding it hard to believe that he didn't have the materials to fend off Obi-Wan.
You are correct that Obi-Wan has a fantastic melee weapon, but Jango could have done much more in the fight scene besides fly away and shoot. He did, however, engage in a brief melee with Obi-Wan later on in the fight. I think Jango could have done more, but it is debatable as to the degree of effectiveness it would have on a Jedi Knight; I take it Jango has not had much experience against a Jedi.
WhatMeWookie
06-21-2002, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by threeP0@June 16 2002 - 15:21
Besides, Mace Windu was able to take Jango out rather easily when they fought
Yeah
Jango is a terrible dim-wit offering who hides behind his costume...and hardly does anything. Just like Darth Maul who was pretty dumb - both got killed very easily. These guys wouldn't last 3 minutes in a WWF fight.
The worst villain in the prequels is definitely Jar-Jar who killed off a generation of fans with his-maxi-rubbish.
Polunis
06-21-2002, 01:29 PM
Yeah
Jango is a terrible dim-wit offering who hides behind his costume...and hardly does anything. Just like Darth Maul who was pretty dumb - both got killed very easily. These guys wouldn't last 3 minutes in a WWF fight.
The worst villain in the prequels is definitely Jar-Jar who killed off a generation of fans with his-maxi-rubbish.
You do have some valid points; Jango really is not an important character whatsoever. I think he was included to appease the Fettheads. BTW, I never liked Boba Fett at all; I think it is stupid that they have him survive the Sarlacc.
I don't like Jar Jar either, but he is not that bad. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
Darth Sidious
06-21-2002, 01:29 PM
Jango was a coward. Really he is Obi-Wan's a Jedi Knight, and Jango which isn't a Jedi has the right weapons to take a Jedi out like Polunis said.
RollaFett
06-21-2002, 02:14 PM
Darth Sideous- Wha?! :crazy:
Count Dooku
06-21-2002, 02:23 PM
Golla I think he is trying to say is Jango has the weapons to take out a Jedi. Look a jetpack(rocketlauncer in back), blasters, Kamino Kyber Dart(i think), flamethrower, blades, and probably other gadgets I dont know of. He has a huge arsenal of weapons which Obi-Wan only had a lightsaber, and force powers(not that strong like Yoda, or the Emperor).Jango had a bigger arsenal of weapons.
Brian
06-21-2002, 03:58 PM
because there is a reason why he is considered the most feared bounty hunter in the Galaxy
Folks, we all have to realize that Jango probaby got his reputation from capturing non-Jedi beings. *Of course a Jedi does not have a reason to fear him, but regular beings do. *A jet pack, rockets, blasters, flame throwers, etc., plus Jango's fighting skills, would be pretty fearsome to you typical galactic criminal (or whoever).
Brian
06-21-2002, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Polunis@June 21 2002 - 12:29
Jango really is not an important character whatsoever. *I think he was included to appease the Fettheads.
Jango, not an important character? Hello? *Jango is the template for the Clone Army, duh! *He also was responsible for the attacks on Senator Amidala (he hired Zam, who would have killed her had it not been for the decoy).
What's with you dude? *You don't have to like Jango, but he was vital to the story.
Polunis
06-21-2002, 06:29 PM
There is nothing at all wrong with me, Gates; at least the last time I checked it was so. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif He was an expendable character; GL could have easily used any old guy to provide the template for the clones; besides, he didn't seem to have much direct involvement with the assassination attempts judging from the content of the movie. Tyranus, for example, could easily hire her to do the job. I think he was included to appease certain portions of Star Wars fandom that can't get enough of a Fett.
In your mind, he is an important character, and I respect that; however, I just don't see much of a purpose behind his character other than his DNA. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
Isomorph
06-22-2002, 12:51 PM
Jango was important but not that important he was used to show the orgins of Boba Fett more than anything else,it was more or less a treat to know that he was the template for the clone armies,but really he was no match for a jedi period,he more than likely was use to catching non jedi like one of the other members said,not knowing that he was out of his leauge when he went up against Mace in the big arena battle,hence he lost, no person can get within 7 to 10 ft of a jedi and live.Thats what makes the jedi so effective in battle.That could be why Jango used his jet packs he figured out during the fight that it was harder than he thought to take out a Jedi at close range with just a couple of blasters.If you noticed after he ditched Obi-Wan he limped back to the slave I he barely made it back alive.
RollaFett
06-22-2002, 10:37 PM
Count Dooku- Thanks for the translation. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif Your comments regarding how he has the arsenal to fend off a Jedi appear sound, my response to that: So? Good for him. He obviously needed them. It's a shame all we see of Jango is against Jedi. That's tough competition for anybody, let alone someone with no force powers, don't you think?
Polunis- You mention that Jango main inclusion was to appease the Fettheads. Being a Fetthead, consider me appeased. That said, you're probably right. GL may have still used Jango in any case, but Boba's popularity most likely played a part in that decision.
Isomorph- Most of what you said makes sense, I have stated previously that you can't fight a Jedi with a lightsaber in close quarters unless you have a lightsaber yourself. A jetpak is neccasary for survival. However, your "barely making it back alive" comment should also include Obi Wan. He didn't look too spry afterwards, either.
In conclusion, after battling an accomplished Jedi Knight, Jango had every reason to hold his head up high. (You all may insert any Mace cracks right now. :whatsthat: )
Polunis
06-23-2002, 12:02 AM
Polunis- You mention that Jango main inclusion was to appease the Fettheads. Being a Fetthead, consider me appeased. That said, you're probably right. GL may have still used Jango in any case, but Boba's popularity most likely played a part in that decision.
Excellent...I am glad you are appeased. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif BTW, I came up with that term, but I thought it applied; there is nothing wrong about the characters, but I just wished they could have been deeper. To me, they seemed to be more as a means to an end in the mind of GL; he could have done much more with them.
Count Dooku
06-23-2002, 01:52 AM
<span style='color:red'>Your welcome Golla if you ever need help let me know and I'll rephrase it for you so you understand style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif.
Well Golla, Jango did face Jedi's throughout the whole movie, and died at the hands of Mace Windu. Dude can you stop talking about how unfair it was? It's getting pretty annoying. He didn't really stand a chance against a Jedi but he sure did a hell of a job fighting Obi-Wan. He had the gear so YES he did have a chance. Here let me tell you something a little lesson. When I get into I fight he maybe bigger then me or stronger I dont wine about it, but I'm gonna make sure the b@!@!@! is hurt because no way am I gonna leave a fight without hurting the b@!@!@!. Jango did that it wasn't even but he still fought and it was basically a draw but he got some punches in there so dude stop complaining about "Oh it was unfair" seriously you sound like my sister whining all the time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif</span>
RollaFett
06-24-2002, 10:59 PM
stop complaining about "Oh it was unfair" seriously you sound like my sister whining all the time
When have I complained that the fight was 'unfair'? Please refresh my memory. I have said that Jango Fett used everything he had at his disposal to fend off a Jedi Knight. I may have also said that without using everything he had, he probably would've been killed. If you intepret that as me saying the fight was 'unfair', so be it. Sure as hell wasn't what I was trying to say. *:dontgetit:
Oh, by the way, thanks for admitting that the fight was a draw. It's nice to hear that, considering I also never said that Jango beat Obi Wan. I always thought that it ended in a draw. *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif
Tyranus
06-25-2002, 01:13 AM
<span style='color:red'>Yes that is what I was trying to say myself, it did end in a draw. Well I could of sworn it was you but I could be wrong. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif</span>
RollaFett
07-01-2002, 12:08 AM
Tyranus- I guess you changed your name. As far as the Jango/Obi Wan fight goes, well it's good to see that we agree on something. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Count Dooku
07-01-2002, 04:17 PM
<span style='color:red'>Yeah, we both have diffferent ideals, but it's nice to agree on somethings. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif</span>
RollaFett
07-01-2002, 10:58 PM
Oh, you're working 2 accounts, aren't you?
Count Dooku
07-02-2002, 01:04 AM
I use to but I just decided to keep this one, I think it fits me much better then the Tyranus.
Pepper
07-02-2002, 05:17 AM
Oy vey... *grabs head and squints eyes to avoid passing out from bewilderment*
Golla, is your head spinning like mine is?? *You and bodhisattva yoda are the only ones here making any sense. *You guys, think for a second, please. *Jango Fett DID get within 7-10 feet of a Jedi in battle, and lived. *The fact is that Fett was a truly exceptional, intelligent, and capable warrior who made Obi-Wan work hard in a battle, and it was precisely for his exceptional-ness that Fett was chosen as the source of the clone DNA. *
But, as bodhisattva yoda said, Obi-Wan was trying to capture Fett, not destroy him. *Remember too that Obi-Wan was the only Jedi in a thousand years to go toe-to-toe with a genuwine Sith Lord and live. *This man Obi-Wan is no mere street fighter or lucky puke; he's considered exceptional even among the Jedi, and it took all Fett had to escape.
Now if you're all wondering why Fett "didn't just use this or that" from his arsenal, well, consider the circumstances: he's in hand-to-hand combat with, as GollaFett said, A JEDI !!! *That ain't no video game. *There's no pause button, no re-start, no slo-mo, no Game Shark with infinite bullets, no wait-a-second. *It's just do all you can do and then some and don't ever ever let up or make a mistake, which is exactly what Fett did. *For crying out loud; why didn't Fett just use the ol' "ooh look, the Goodyear blimp!" then kick him in the groin trick?? *Why? *Because he didn't have time to use a flame thrower, wrist blades, both guns, his rocket pack, jets, cables, Swiss army knife, etc, etc, AND throw and block and avoid punches and kicks. *Certainly not against a highly trained and powerful Jedi.
I'm sorry if I'm coming across too harshly, but you guys should go back and read this thread. *Maybe you'll see it the way I do.
Now, I wonder, how would it have turned out had Obi-Wan actually intended to kill Fett rather than just capture him? *Who knows; maybe OB1 would've taken a different approach rather than trying to walk up to him, but that's another discussion.
RollaFett
07-03-2002, 02:08 PM
Pepper- I love people that think like i do. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif What is slightly annoying throughout this thread are the comments referring to Jango as some sort of wuss for using evrything at his disposal. Hell, the only reason he survived so close to ObiWan was because ObiWan didn't have his lightsaber at the time. Jango, in turn, didn't have his blasters, and handled Obi Wan quite well.
Everyone sees how easily Mace kills Jango and automatically come to the conclusion that he must be lame. Well, who would have survived that confrantation? When you look at the basics, Jango is just a man. Mace is just a Jedi master. Jango's jetpak gets damaged by the reek moments before Mace confronts him, so he had little chance of getting away. Thus, his head gets lopped off. Sure, I was disappointed by Jango's sudden death, but instead of looking at it as though Jango was lacking, why not look at it as simply that Mace was a badass mofo.
Pepper
07-03-2002, 06:59 PM
Yes, Golla, that's the way I think we should, and are meant, to see them both. Fett was a great warrior who was out-matched by a Jedi master, and Mace is second to none in the galaxy, with the possible exception of Yoda.
catwmnjedi
07-03-2002, 07:20 PM
I agree, guys. I think there needed to be evidence in the film that Mace was powerful, as even Anakin acknowledges. Ordinary people fear Jedi. Jango was brave to stand up to Obi-Wan, and survive... most ordinary humans wouldn't. And he didn't run from Mace either, even though he probably saw his headroll coming at that point.
So Jango isn't a wuss at all!!!! We're just disappointed because we liked his character and didn't want to see him killed off so soon. Same with Darth Maul, IMO. I thought he made a great villian and I would've liked to have seen him in at least one more movie. But, as was so eloquently explained to me on the EUDF thread, some of our favorite characters have to die for dramatic effect. A good movie stirs both good and negative emotions in the viewer.
Rogue_0009
07-04-2002, 10:35 PM
I think jango would have flown off even without a lightsabre involved cuz he has a conservative fighting style. Also most of the fight was hand-to-hand and punching armor hurts your hands so u have to go for weak spots witch jango having greater fistfight experience would be able to guard and use a lot of different advantages,lets not forget that most of jedi combat training is with a sabre. I think the fight was fair enough considering the fact that Obi could just have started to use telekinesis on Jango to mess around with the gadgets, it's dishonourable I supose but an option.
RollaFett
07-05-2002, 02:01 AM
catwmnjedi- What thread are you talking about? EUDF? Don't know what that stands for. :whatsthat:
Tovor
07-05-2002, 02:21 AM
Pep,
Now, I wonder, how would it have turned out had Obi-Wan actually intended to kill Fett rather than just capture him? *Who knows; maybe OB1 would've taken a different approach rather than trying to walk up to him, but that's another discussion.
I'm sure that had Obi-Wan intended to kill him he would have deflected his initial laser fire back to him rather than slashing it toward the deck as he did. *Now, why Mace hadn't done that rather than going in for the beheading, I don't know, so that's another discussion =).
Darth Light
07-09-2002, 04:53 PM
I don't believe that the Jedi elders would ever tell another to kill someone. That sounds agressive. For knowledge and defense right. And Jango was no longer valueable to the Jedi so "bye, bye bounty hunter."
RollaFett
06-22-2003, 06:54 PM
I loved this thread, back in the day, and was wondering what some members who may have missed it originally, or weren't around, think about it?
Jango
06-22-2003, 11:57 PM
obi-wans an idiot i mean greg
Frendon
06-24-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Darth Light@Jul 9 2002, 02:53 PM
I don't believe that the Jedi elders would ever tell another to kill someone. *That sounds agressive. *For knowledge and defense right. *And Jango was no longer valueable to the Jedi so "bye, bye bounty hunter."
Well that's basically what ObiWan told Luke to do.
Jango could have done more, but it is debatable as to the degree of effectiveness it would have on a Jedi Knight; I take it Jango has not had much experience against a Jedi.
Yeah but in the Arena when that Jedi (i can't remember his name) tried to fight Dooku he killed him easily
Rogue_0009
06-24-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Frendon@Jun 24 2003, 09:15 AM
Yeah but in the Arena when that Jedi (i can't remember his name) tried to fight Dooku he killed him easily
Coleman Trebor
Frendon
06-24-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Rogue_0009+Jun 24 2003, 02:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rogue_0009 @ Jun 24 2003, 02:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frendon@Jun 24 2003, 09:15 AM
Yeah but in the Arena when that Jedi (i can't remember his name) tried to fight Dooku he killed him easily
Coleman Trebor [/b][/quote]
Yes! that's the name thanks Rogue_0009.
Coleman Trebor the dumbest Jedi alive...no wait, he's dead... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
Rogue_0009
06-24-2003, 08:53 PM
I do what I can *shrugs*
RollaFett
06-24-2003, 10:47 PM
Frendon- Yes, he died easily, but it didn't even appear as though he paid any attention to Jango even being there. He was just plain careless and stupid, but then, you already called him the 'dumbest Jedi alive, err...dead', and I can't argue with that.
Frendon
06-24-2003, 11:12 PM
Yup, but that gives the whole "Obi Wan is a JEDI" and Jango was just "a guy trying to make it in the universe" a total spin, it means being a Jedi is not as big as an advantage as you will think over Jango, Coleman Trebor was a Jedi but it took Jango about 2 seconds to kill him.
Justin
06-25-2003, 07:31 PM
Jango Fett didn't really defeat Obi-Wan, he pretty much just got away.
Soontir Solo
06-26-2003, 08:11 AM
Thats right Justin. Obi-Wan was still winning the fight. Obi-Wan was able to track Jango anyways. If he had one the fight at Kamino he wouldn't have found Geonosis and who knows what would have happened.
RollaFett
06-28-2003, 07:10 PM
Frendon Posted on Jun 24 2003, 10:12 PM
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Yup, but that gives the whole "Obi Wan is a JEDI" and Jango was just "a guy trying to make it in the universe" a total spin, it means being a Jedi is not as big as an advantage as you will think over Jango, Coleman Trebor was a Jedi but it took Jango about 2 seconds to kill him.
I agree that it was rather easy for Jango to kill Trebor, but let's not forget that it wasn't Trebor vs. Jango. Trebor was attempting to take out Dooku, while paying no mind at all to Jango, who was off to the side lining up Trebor in his sights. If Trebor had lept onto the balcony to confront Jango, and Jango alone, I highly doubt he would've been so easily killed.
Blizzard
06-28-2003, 08:22 PM
Bugs in thread = all fixed.
RollaFett
06-28-2003, 08:24 PM
Blizz, I knew you were good for something. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
Kidding, of course! You're the Queen!
Jedi Vaapad
06-29-2003, 11:31 PM
Best. Star Wars. Fight. Ever.
Raganork8
06-29-2003, 11:43 PM
It wasn't my favorite but it was the most inventive and unexpected, nice music too especally when obi falls.
James
07-13-2003, 03:39 AM
I would have liked to have seen a lightsaber battle in the rain... between a Jedi and a Sith (ie Sidious/Dooku). It would have been really cool.
What I really hate about the Obi/Jango fight is when Obi-Wan is falling down towards the ocean and he can undo that rope that Jango threw around him really quickly. It just bothers me....... I just think it looks really dumb..... not even a Jedi could do that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif
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RollaFett
07-13-2003, 06:32 PM
Didn't mind how he got out of that rope, but was slightly bothered by the lack of rope-burns when he it stopped his fall. Man, that would hurt like hell! Ouch!
Trilogist
01-04-2004, 12:17 AM
That was a great fight scene, especially since we got to see a Jedi fighting hand to hand for the first time. The scene set up the notion that Jango and therefore his son after him would be formidable bounty hunters against the Jedi. They no doubt know the Jedi's M.O. and use it to their advantage.
What I loved the best was the electric scene before when they had the "small talk" conversation in Jango's quarters. The air was so thick with threat and menace, I could cut it with a knife.
Manowan
01-15-2004, 12:18 PM
Great scene, one of the best fights ever. I think it was a tie.
The best part is, in a way, we will see them fight again in EPIII.
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RollaFett
01-20-2004, 10:46 PM
If that's some sort of spoiler, I'd be careful. Wrong section.
Whitesaber
01-22-2004, 12:25 AM
AAAHHHH!!! NOOOO!! Spoiler!!! Get it away!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/notify.gif
flo fett
01-23-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Trilogist@Jan 4 2004, 04:17 AM
What I loved the best was the electric scene before when they had the "small talk" conversation in Jango's quarters. The air was so thick with threat and menace, I could cut it with a knife.
That was classic. One of my favourite scenes.
durge
03-14-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Polunis@Jun 17 2002, 11:50 PM
If Jango thinks himself tough, he ought to prove it. *Running away preserves one's life but not one's honor. *I agree with all of you on the prudence of making the match uneven, but I prefer a fair fight.
he was playing to survive. if he went one on one with obi then he wouldve been killed. and besides hes a bounty hunter not a man of honor. i know he has a code of honor but when it comes down to it. it doesnt matter
RollaFett
03-20-2004, 10:31 PM
I agree, remember, he's just 'trying to make his way in the universe.'
Anguirus111
03-21-2004, 03:16 PM
I liked how the fight was 3-Dimensional, it just wasn't some straight up shoot 'em type thing. Jango flew around on his jetpack, lassoed Obi-Wan etc. It was a good fight and showed Jango's resourcefullness.
goodwije
03-22-2004, 07:55 AM
Yeah i dont know that i would call Jango honorable.. i mean he killed whats her name (Zam i think) with a dart to keep her from relvealing him to the Jedi, and he ran that time too. He was a bounty hunter paid to do a job thats it. Getting killed, or his son killed, was never part of it.
I do like that GL added him as a father, it added a completly different dimension than we hae seen with the other disposable baddies.
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