Mann and Quigon and Javen on movies

[Mann]

I must achieve my goal today, if you help me you will be in my gratitude. Just post something, anything I can respond to!

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I hated the movie Pulp Fiction</span></span>

[Javen]

Mann won't make it to 5000

[Mann]

you don't appreciate good art when you see it. It's probably one of the most influential movie ever made.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:25 PM
Mann won't make it to 5000
why do you say this?

[JediJaina]

Good luck to you.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Why are you obsessed with Padme?</span></span>

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 01:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 01:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:25 PM
Mann won't make it to 5000
why do you say this? [/b][/quote]
You said just say something, so I said something. PLus this helps me helping you. I need to make it to 8500

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Why does everyone care so much about post count. I think my posts per day is a few less then 16 or 15. I think that people with post counts of over 20 per day need to get a life, no offense</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:27 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Why are you obsessed with Padme?</span></span>
are you straight, male?

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen+Jun 1 2003, 06:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Javen @ Jun 1 2003, 06:28 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 01:26 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:25 PM
Mann won't make it to 5000
why do you say this?
You said just say something, so I said something. PLus this helps me helping you. I need to make it to 8500 [/b][/quote]
good luck to you too!

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Mann, are the movies in your list in order, or just random?</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by JediJaina@Jun 1 2003, 06:27 PM
Good luck to you.
thanks, neat avatar

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:32 PM
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Mann, are the movies in your list in order, or just random?</span></span>
in order, those are my favorites in order.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 02:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 02:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:27 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Why are you obsessed with Padme?</span></span>
are you straight, male? [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Yes, I just don't see what's sooooo great about her. She's sorta hot but not that much.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:30 PM
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Why does everyone care so much about post count. I think my posts per day is a few less then 16 or 15. I think that people with post counts of over 20 per day need to get a life, no offense</span></span>
it's cause we are addicted to the Senate.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 02:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 02:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:32 PM
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Mann, are the movies in your list in order, or just random?</span></span>
in order, those are my favorites in order. [/b][/quote]
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I've never seen Se7en, what is it about?</span></span>

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, I just don't see what's sooooo great about her. She's sorta hot but not that much. [/b][/quote]

She's just extremly hot. Look at that face, you don;t get much hotter than that.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've never seen Se7en, what is it about? [/b][/quote]

A thriller, starring Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt, about two cops searching for a serial killer who murders victims in ways that reflect the sin thay have committed. Really stylish and very well written. The ending will stick out in yur mind. This is definatly not a kid movie. very gruesome. Extremly well acted though. Kevin Spacey is the villian too, which he does so well.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 02:35 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, I just don't see what's sooooo great about her. She's sorta hot but not that much.

She's just extremly hot. Look at that face, you don;t get much hotter than that. [/b][/quote]
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I've seen way hotter then that.</span></span>

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen way hotter then that. [/b][/quote]

You're exaggerating. She's one of the hottest women in the world. maybe Halle beats her, because she has breasts.

[Mann]

19 posts to go

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 02:37 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've never seen Se7en, what is it about?

A thriller, starring Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt, about two cops searching for a serial killer who murders victims in ways that reflect the sin thay have committed. Really stylish and very well written. The ending will stick out in yur mind. This is definatly not a kid movie. very gruesome. Extremly well acted though. Kevin Spacey is the villian too, which he does so well. [/b][/quote]
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Did you see Phone Booth, alot of people said it sucked because there was no action. But I liked it, what about you?</span></span>

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 02:38 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen way hotter then that.

You're exaggerating. She's one of the hottest women in the world. maybe Halle beats her, because she has breasts. [/b][/quote]
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Lol, are you saying that Natalie doesn't have breasts? Have you ever seen the REAL topless pics. They aren't that good.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:39 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Did you see Phone Booth, alot of people said it sucked because there was no action. But I liked it, what about you?</span></span>


I saw it, I liked it alot. Collin Farrell is not just another pretty face. He's got star power. I laughed alot becuase it had some funny moments. Good work by the cast. Katie Holmes was underused and wasted. Keifer sutherland was superb, best use of a voice over since Gollum.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Lol, are you saying that Natalie doesn't have breasts? Have you ever seen the REAL topless pics. They aren't that good. [/b][/quote]

They aren't that good, I know. I mean she isn't about to implant her boobs. But look at her rear!

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What was the name of the police guy in Phone Booth. I remember seeing him in anoter movie called "The Crying Game", it was really disgusting, yet it was a good movie and was well acted. Although, I will never EVER watch it again.</span></span>

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 02:44 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What was the name of the police guy in Phone Booth. I remember seeing him in anoter movie called "The Crying Game", it was really disgusting, yet it was a good movie and was well acted. Although, I will never EVER watch it again.</span></span>
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">I was throwing up all night, when I saw it.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:44 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What was the name of the police guy in Phone Booth. I remember seeing him in anoter movie called "The Crying Game", it was really disgusting, yet it was a good movie and was well acted. Although, I will never EVER watch it again.</span></span>
Forrest Whitaker. He is a great actor. Almost got an Oscar nomination for Clint Eastwood's Bird (he won the Cannes award for acting) he also a superb character actor. He was also in PLatoon, but wasn't really flashy.

Crying game starred him, Stephan Rea (superb) and Miranda Richardson. I agree, disgusting scenes, but it almost won best picture. produders of America gave it the award, but the academy gave it to Unforgiven (irony, Eastwood's movie)

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">It's been fun helping you Mann. And I think when you get to 5000 posts you should keep this thread open and rename it "Mann and QGW b*tch about movies*.</span></span>

[Mann]

LOL, yes. The movie Mann should have his own thread. And I'd be glad to keep it open

[Javen]

You think those were disgusting scenes. You should see the movie The Life Of David Gail. One of the worst disgusting minutes of a killing I have ever seen.I don't like seeing stuff like that.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:50 PM
You think those were disgusting scenes. You should see the movie The Life Of David Gail. One of the worst disgusting minutes of a killing I have ever seen.I don't like seeing stuff like that.
not to mention, David Gale was just a bad movie.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What happened in David Gail?</span></span>

[Javen]

You're right, very bad movie.

[DarthSolo]

mann, we had a deal concerning the YV and the Sith, yet you came back to the YV room to disrupt it seems, whats goin on mann??

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:52 PM
You're right, very bad movie.
why oh why did Kevin Spacey do it? He's so friggin good!

[Mann]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Jun 1 2003, 06:53 PM
mann, we had a deal concerning the YV and the Sith, yet you came back to the YV room to disrupt it seems, whats goin on mann??
somehow, I think that the Sith leader didn't take to it. He's against the idea of an alliance.

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:52 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What happened in David Gail?</span></span>
this guy against the death penalty is found guilty of murder and put on death row. Some reporter tries to help him out. it's dumb, bad, and shouldn't have been made. Maybe if they reworked the ending!

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">You know what movies I don't like. All the Disney sequels. They make a sequel for every animated movie that they put out. And the sequels all suck. Aladdin was good, the first sequel was okay, then they made another one. Now they're making Atlantis 2, Treasure Planet 2, didn't they already make Bambi 2 and Beauty and the Beast 2. It's really annoying that they destroy good movies with all these sequels.</span></span>

[DarthSolo]

i am negotiating with him, but cant you at least keep to your word, at least until my negotiating with the sith leader has failed? if it does?

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 02:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 02:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:52 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">What happened in David Gail?</span></span>
this guy against the death penalty is found guilty of murder and put on death row. Some reporter tries to help him out. it's dumb, bad, and shouldn't have been made. Maybe if they reworked the ending! [/b][/quote]
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I meant, what was so disgusting about it?</span></span>

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 01:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 01:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:52 PM
You're right, very bad movie.
why oh why did Kevin Spacey do it? He's so friggin good! [/b][/quote]
I don't know why he did it. Paycheck I guess. But he is a very good actor.

My favorites with him.

Se7en
American Beauty
L.A. Confidential

[Jango]

the untouchables realy was good

[Jango]

did you like it

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">My favorite old movie from back in like the 50's, 60's was The Bridge on the River Kwai starring Alec Guiness, it was a really good movie.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:55 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">You know what movies I don't like. All the Disney sequels. They make a sequel for every animated movie that they put out. And the sequels all suck. Aladdin was good, the first sequel was okay, then they made another one. Now they're making Atlantis 2, Treasure Planet 2, didn't they already make Bambi 2 and Beauty and the Beast 2. It's really annoying that they destroy good movies with all these sequels.</span></span>
i agree. Disney is so full of itself it makes alot of bad sequels. they do that also to movies that were bad to begin with. Treasure PLanet I didn't like and it failed anyway. Atlantis had some good music, about it.

Aladdin was one of the greats, and they made a sequels that was too crazy. It was good how it ended. The second sequel (the 40 theives) was alright in terms of story, and neat how it linked the two arabian tales together. However, it was unnecessary.

Bambi 2? I don;t know. I hope not.

Beauty and the Beast 2 was more of an inbetween film (seeing as the end of the first was the end of the story)

[Javen]

Originally posted by jango@Jun 1 2003, 01:58 PM
the untouchables realy was good
Yeah that is a great movie.

[Mann]

Originally posted by jango@Jun 1 2003, 06:58 PM
the untouchables realy was good
gee, I wonder

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[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Almost there Mann.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen+Jun 1 2003, 06:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Javen @ Jun 1 2003, 06:57 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 01:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 06:52 PM
You're right, very bad movie.
why oh why did Kevin Spacey do it? He's so friggin good!
I don't know why he did it. Paycheck I guess. But he is a very good actor.

My favorites with him.

Se7en
American Beauty
L.A. Confidential [/b][/quote]
American Beauty is his career highlight. He absolutley deserved the Oscar, though Russell Crowe in the Insider was more out of type and different and could have won also.

Anyone see The Usual Suspects?

[Javen]

Mann do you think that Shawshank Redemption has one of the greatest endings of all time? I do

[Mann]

four more posts!

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 1 2003, 07:02 PM
Mann do you think that Shawshank Redemption has one of the greatest endings of all time? I do
at least one of the most uplifting endings. It actually brings a smile to your face even after the entire film is gritty and sad. I almost got scared thinking Morgan Freeman would kill himself, but he didn't so i was happy.

Tim Robbin's was robbed of an Oscar nomination btw. What a performance.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I liked Kevin Spacey in "A Bug's Life"</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 06:59 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">My favorite old movie from back in like the 50's, 60's was The Bridge on the River Kwai starring Alec Guiness, it was a really good movie.</span></span>
go figure, Alec Guiness was in it. Won his Oscar too. He actually stole the whole show. Ever see any of this other movies?

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 07:05 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I liked Kevin Spacey in "A Bug's Life"</span></span>
LOL, at the time I saw that movie, I didn't realize it was him. It's not a great villian, or a great film. But I liked it too.

[Mann]

<span style="color:green"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-family:Times">Post # 5000!</span></span></span>

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Yeah, I saw a few of them, did you ever see the Star Wars OT style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif </span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 07:07 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Yeah, I saw a few of them, did you ever see the Star Wars OT style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif </span></span>
no, what's it about? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 02:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 02:04 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 07:02 PM
Mann do you think that Shawshank Redemption has one of the greatest endings of all time? I do
at least one of the most uplifting endings. It actually brings a smile to your face even after the entire film is gritty and sad. I almost got scared thinking Morgan Freeman would kill himself, but he didn't so i was happy.

Tim Robbin's was robbed of an Oscar nomination btw. What a performance. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, but, remember he throws that rock threw the poster, and the look on his face. How priceless.I bought the shooting script to the movie. That's how much I love the moive.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 03:06 PM
<span style="font-family:Times"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:green">POST # 5000!</span></span></span>
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">WTG</span></span>

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Is anybody gonna tell me what was so disgusting about David Gale.</span></span>

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen+Jun 1 2003, 07:08 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Javen @ Jun 1 2003, 07:08 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 02:04 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Javen@Jun 1 2003, 07:02 PM
Mann do you think that Shawshank Redemption has one of the greatest endings of all time? I do
at least one of the most uplifting endings. It actually brings a smile to your face even after the entire film is gritty and sad. I almost got scared thinking Morgan Freeman would kill himself, but he didn't so i was happy.

Tim Robbin's was robbed of an Oscar nomination btw. What a performance.
Yeah, but, remember he throws that rock threw the poster, and the look on his face. How priceless.I bought the shooting script to the movie. That's how much I love the moive. [/b][/quote]
yeah, that guy, Bob Gutton i think, had a great role. He seemed ok, but then you realize he's just evil. what he does at the end of the film is fitting because it shows he's a coward.

[Javen]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 02:11 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Is anybody gonna tell me what was so disgusting about David Gale.</span></span>
No, it's too disgusting. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 07:11 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Is anybody gonna tell me what was so disgusting about David Gale.</span></span>
just the death scene in itse;f. It's incredibly graphic.

[Mann]

It's been renamed

[Mann]

get this:

MTV Viewers Name 'Two Towers' Best Movie

By Bob Tourtellotte

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Superheroes and special effects wizards battled for the spotlight at the 2003 MTV Movie Awards on Saturday, claiming several top trophies including the best movie prize for "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers."

Digital effects-filled "Two Towers," the middle chapter in the J.R.R. Tolkien trilogy about an epic battle for control of Middle Earth, earned four awards, more than any other film.

Along with best movie, MTV viewers gave it best action sequence, on-screen team for stars Elijah Wood, Sean Astin and digitally-created Gollum, as well as a new honor for virtual performance for Gollum.

Winners were picked from a poll of viewers who watch cable TV network MTV and sister channel MTV2.

Among superhero movies winning awards was "Spider-Man," about the web-spinning crime fighter, which earned Kirsten Dunst the title best actress and her and co-star Tobey Maguire the honor of best on-screen kiss.

The award for breakthrough actress went to Jennifer Garner for her comic book hero role of Elektra in "Daredevil."

Rapper Eminem was named best actor in a film, as well as breakthrough performance by an actor in "8 Mile," the tale of his early days trying to make it in Detroit's hip hop clubs.

The MTV Movie Awards take place each year during the summer movie season and offer a good look at what the youth culture likes in films, which was personified by young Daveigh Chase who took home the award for best villain in "The Ring."

"Oh my gosh, this so rocks," Chase said on stage after grabbing her MTV statue -- a bucket of golden popcorn.

The show also gives fans a lively counterpart to staid, old Hollywood awards like the Oscars with MTV categories including best fight. That title went to Force master Yoda for his lightsaber battle with Christopher Lee in "Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones."

Mike Myers won the golden popcorn bucket for best comedic role as spy Austin Powers in "Austin Powers in Goldmember."

MTV added an award for best transatlantic breakthrough performer, and that went to Colin Farrell in "Phone Booth."

The awards show will air on June 5. Last year's MTV Movie Awards was watched by over 7 million viewers and was MTV's most-viewed movie award show ever among audiences aged 12 to 34.

MTV is a division of media company Viacom Inc.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Cool, I agree with these selctions much more then the Oscars.</span></span>

[Mann]

As Do I. They've picked some great films as the best. Like recently, LAst year was FotR, the year before was Gladiator and before that Matrix. Other great ones like Terminator 2, Pulp Fiction and A few good Men, The Fugitive.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">And they do have some cool original categories, like Best Kiss, best villain, etc.</span></span>

[Mann]

That girl from the ring won, how interesting. I picked Collin Farrell, even though I didn't like daredevil.

[Javen]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 02:51 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">And they do have some cool original categories, like Best Kiss, best villain, etc.</span></span>
Kirsten Dunst and Toby are up for best kiss.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I agree with the results of every award in the MTV movie awards, that has to be the first time that I've agreed with all the results from one award show.</span></span>

[Javen]

Actually, I don't agree with Eminiem winning for 8 Mile. Sorry, but he is not that great of an actor.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 1 2003, 08:03 PM
Actually, I don't agree with Eminiem winning for 8 Mile. Sorry, but he is not that great of an actor.
I agree, I give him best breakthrough, but best perfromance is a strech. I more so would have given Tobey Maguire the award.

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 08:00 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I agree with the results of every award in the MTV movie awards, that has to be the first time that I've agreed with all the results from one award show.</span></span>
Everyone but Kirsten Dunst. I can live with Eminem, but come on, she was nothing and she wasn't even great in it.

[Whitesaber]

I wasn't too crazy about Kirsten in Arachnid-Guy anyways.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I more so would have given Tobey Maguire the award. [/b][/quote]

Okay. He acted good. But I still say that he didn't do a good job of being Peter Parker.

[Mann]

The whole thing is, he WAS Peter Parker. He did it exactly the way it is in the comics. Though, I doubt the stunts of him swinging were him in the suit, I still think he was the best choice they could come up with.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 03:53 PM
That girl from the ring won, how interesting. I picked Collin Farrell, even though I didn't like daredevil.
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I think she did deserve it. She didn't have a big part but she was great. She scared the crap outta me.</span></span>

[Whitesaber]

Okay, you just opened a can of worms, Mann...

The swingage of Spider-humanoid in the city was produced by CGI animators. That just didn't go well with me.

Okay, I openly admit that I'm stuck up and slightly bigoted. I still have a grudge with Eightlegged-Guy for coming out arount the time when AOTC did. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu+Jun 2 2003, 08:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(QuigonWindu @ Jun 2 2003, 08:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jun 1 2003, 03:53 PM
That girl from the ring won, how interesting. I picked Collin Farrell, even though I didn't like daredevil.
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I think she did deserve it. She didn't have a big part but she was great. She scared the crap outta me.</span></span> [/b][/quote]
Same her, that movie is one of the scariest.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jun 2 2003, 08:07 PM
Okay, you just opened a can of worms, Mann...

The swingage of Spider-humanoid in the city was produced by CGI animators. That just didn't go well with me.

Okay, I openly admit that I'm stuck up and slightly bigoted. I still have a grudge with Eightlegged-Guy for coming out arount the time when AOTC did. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif
The CGI I agree, was not really great. But then again, the thing is a comic book, so if it looks cartoony, It might have been intentional. Opening a little before Episode 2 wasn't it's fault. It was the fault of TPM for being crappy and Losing Star Wars fans. Spiderman had two huge weekends, holding its own.

[Whitesaber]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It was the fault of TPM for being crappy and Losing Star Wars fans. Spiderman had two huge weekends, holding its own. [/b][/quote]

I'm just angry because of that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif Speaking of CGI superheroes, another one that doesn't agree with me is the Hulk.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I like how The Hulk looks, it's sorta cool,
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_hulk/hulk8.jpg</span></span>

[Leia]

if he looked real, he'd look cool. I didn't like how they made Neo a digital character sometimes in Matrix Reloaded either ??? it just detracts from it. It looks so awesome when he's doing all those stunts and stuff and then it turns into this obviously fake thing and it's no longer cool

[Mann]

CGI is not perfect. Sorry to bust everyone's bubble but the fact is that what they do in films is incredible. NO human could do the kind of things that Neo does without being CGI.

The Hulk will look better in the film release. I guarantee.

[Darth Whaler]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 1 2003, 07:00 PM
Aladdin was one of the greats, and they made a sequels that was too crazy. It was good how it ended. The second sequel (the 40 theives) was alright in terms of story, and neat how it linked the two arabian tales together. However, it was unnecessary.

Do any of you guys remember the ending of the third Aladdin movie? In my opinion, it contained the funniest part (and really the only part I even remember). Genie does an impression of Hudson from "Aliens"....game over, man game over. I just thought that was interesting, to have a reference to such an obscure line from a movie.

Also, about the CGI hulk...I think it looks really fake and cheesy. They could definitely have done better.

[Darth Vegas]

I don't think you can get much better than this:

[Darth Vegas]

What do you guys think of Yoda and Christopher Lee winning best fight at the MTV movie awards?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20030602.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2003/06/news20030602.html)

[Mann]

Originally posted by Darth Whaler+Jun 3 2003, 02:15 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Whaler @ Jun 3 2003, 02:15 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jun 1 2003, 07:00 PM

Aladdin was one of the greats, and they made a sequels that was too crazy. It was good how it ended. The second sequel (the 40 theives) was alright in terms of story, and neat how it linked the two arabian tales together. However, it was unnecessary.

Do any of you guys remember the ending of the third Aladdin movie? In my opinion, it contained the funniest part (and really the only part I even remember). Genie does an impression of Hudson from "Aliens"....game over, man game over. I just thought that was interesting, to have a reference to such an obscure line from a movie.

Also, about the CGI hulk...I think it looks really fake and cheesy. They could definitely have done better. [/b][/quote]
I never noticed it. Good eye. Just some adult Disney humor.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jun 3 2003, 02:23 AM
What do you guys think of Yoda and Christopher Lee winning best fight at the MTV movie awards?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20030602.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2003/06/news20030602.html)
well deserved. I must say, it was quite cool to hear they won, but looking at the other competition, no chance any of the other would.

[Leia]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 2 2003, 09:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Do any of you guys remember the ending of the third Aladdin movie? In my opinion, it contained the funniest part (and really the only part I even remember). Genie does an impression of Hudson from "Aliens"....game over, man game over. I just thought that was interesting, to have a reference to such an obscure line from a movie.
I never noticed it. Good eye. Just some adult Disney humor. [/b][/quote]
isn't it after the credits? It's not hard to miss if you just wait for it, lol

[Leia]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jun 2 2003, 09:23 PM
What do you guys think of Yoda and Christopher Lee winning best fight at the MTV movie awards?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/20...ws20030602.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2003/06/news20030602.html)
I think that's lame

[Saranac]

*sniff* I wasn't asked to join ???

Well I'll just go back to my hole now.

[JediJaina]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 1 2003, 02:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 1 2003, 02:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-JediJaina@Jun 1 2003, 06:27 PM
Good luck to you.
thanks, neat avatar [/b][/quote]
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

At least Star Wars Ep 2 won something.

[Darth Whaler]

Originally posted by Leia@Jun 3 2003, 07:18 PM

isn't it after the credits? It's not hard to miss if you just wait for it, lol
I think you're right, it is after the credits. It's been so long though that I can't remember!

[Mann]

Ever seen any sick and twisted things in Disney movies?

[Javen]

Well, in the Lion King after Simba's dad died.He goes and plops down at the edge of the cliff. As he does dust flies up and if you pause it. The Wword SEX is shown as clear as day.I have seen it myself

[Mann]

Ever seen aladdin get excited?

[Javen]

I don't think I ever payed attention to him getting excited.

[Mann]

I think he tells Jasmine, if you turn the volume up, to take her clothes off.

[Mann]

Also, the little mermaid has an "excited scene" with the prince popping one for ariel.

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 3 2003, 08:11 PM
I think he tells Jasmine, if you turn the volume up, to take her clothes off.
Um.... huh? When?

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 3 2003, 08:11 PM
Also, the little mermaid has an "excited scene" with the prince popping one for ariel.
Um... huh? When?


style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Leia]

never heard that about little mermaid, but supposedly one of the towers in the city under the sea looks like a ***** style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

In Aladdin when he's on Jasmine's balcony and the tiger is coming after him and he's flapping at him with his hat he goes "Nice kitty" and whatnot... Then (I was watching this at school so the subtitles were on) he says under his breath "take off your clothes" but the subtitles only said "take off" as if he's trying to get the tiger to go away style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Mann]

^yep style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Mann]

Anybody seen the scary trailer for "28 days later"?

[bodegage]

No I haven't yet! Have you seen the trailer to ELF with Will Farrel?

[Mann]

hmm, what is that?

[bodegage]

Comedy



Will Farrel is a human who as a baby somehow gets to teh north pole where he is raised as an elf. Then 30 years later he learns of his past and ventures into the city to meet his father(James Caan)!

[Mann]

I saw the trailer, looks very funny.

[bodegage]

I like the end part with the racoon. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by bodegage@Jun 6 2003, 08:40 PM
I like the end part with the racoon. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif
yeah, the film looks pretty good. Will Farrell can make any comedy funnier.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Quick movie poll:
Who had the Best acceptance at the MTV Movie Awards Last night?
Best Battle: Yoda "represent"
Best CGI: Gollum "MTV Sucks"
Best Male Breakthrough Actor: Eminem "I can't believe I beat Mariah Carey for Glitter"</span></span>

[Mann]

Gollum's was the funniest. Also, the best use of a CGI character

Eminem had the best one liner, the rest was bad

Yoda's was bad until the end when he said "representin' " and then the hand thing was good. No Christopher Lee?

[JediJaina]

Gollum's speech rocked! I should tape that. It'll probably be on again a billion times.

[Mann]

I liked the continuous bleeping of Gollum. It would have been funny if he could have done it with the Osbourne Family.

[Saranac]

Well I didn't watch that crap for several reasons. First off being the entire show and channel went down the drain 2-3 years ago. Also it would have been better if I didn't read about the winners and the acceptance speeches a few days before the show aired.....pre-taped

[Mann]

true Saranac, the reading of the winners was kinda dumb. However, the chance to see the stuff happen is fun.

However, Justin T. and Sean have no chemistry and are terrible together. get me Jack Black and Sarah Michelle Gellar for another year please!

[Javen]

I completley missed it. I wasn't home last night, and I didn't tape it either. Oh well

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple"> They're gonna replay it like 50 times this week, so you'll be able to see it.</span></span>

[Javen]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 6 2003, 06:52 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple"> They're gonna replay it like 50 times this week, so you'll be able to see it.</span></span>
All for Javen? Wow, thanks QGW.

[Mann]

I loved Gollum's part.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">We've been moved</span></span>

[Javen]

And i didn't even pack my bags.

What movie kept your attention the first 5 minutes.

And what movie bored you to tears the first 5 minutes?

[Mann]

kept my attention: Showgirls

kept lost attention: Extreme Ops.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 7 2003, 06:22 PM
What movie kept your attention the first 5 minutes.

And what movie bored you to tears the first 5 minutes?
Saving Private Ryan definately keeps your attention in the beginning. Granted the first 5 minutes are the older Private Ryan stumbling through the cemetary with his hot grand-daughters (oh there were other people there style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif ) but once it flashes back to D-Day you can't help but be captivated.

Titanic had the worst first 5 minutes ever. Hell the worst hour-hour and a half ever. The movie was great for the historical aspect of it (the iceberg, the poor people trapped in the lower decks, the sinking of the ship, the band playing until the end, etc.) because it really happened like that but the story of Jack and Rose was pathetic. The fact that it is the highest grossing movie of all-time, because high school girls throughout America went over and over and over and over and over to see Leo, is a slap in the face to all of the movies that are soooooo much better.

[Mann]

Titanic is just one of the worst films ever.

It's just depressing that James Cameron had to come up with the idea. I mean, why not make a generalization of a film, not focused on two people, but all the major people onboard. That would have been more interesting and more meaningful. Not about Leo getting laid.

Worst Best Picture ever, in terms of acting and story. The film looks incredible, but that's just the look.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Saving Private Ryan definately keeps your attention in the beginning. Granted the first 5 minutes are the older Private Ryan stumbling through the cemetary with his hot grand-daughters (oh there were other people there ) but once it flashes back to D-Day you can't help but be captivated.
[/b][/quote]

So true, the first five minutes for me passed so fast it became the first 20 minutes. It's one of the most memorable openings in film history, and one of the most powerful.

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Kept my attention: Any adult film without a plot
Lost my attention: Any adult film with a plot
jk. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
Kept my attention: A New Hope, The Two Towers, X-Men 2
Lost My Attention: The Phantom Menace</span></span>

[Mann]

Kept my attention: The Lord of the Rings (all of them)

Lost My attention: A Beautiful Mind (WTF?)

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Kept My attention: Mann, the E!: True GS story.
Lost My attention: QuigonWindu: the E!: True GS Story.</span></span>

[Mann]

^LMAO!

[Mann]

Kept my attention: Rebecca Romijn Stamos in blue make-up X2

Lost my attention: Alan Cumming in blue Make-up X2

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Kept my attention: Rebecca Romijn Stamos, in her actual, real life form, in X2.
Lost my attention: No comment</span></span>

[Javen]

Thin Red Line-lost my attention from 5 minutes and put me to sleep.

[Mann]

^AMEN! that movie is waaaaaaaay too overrated.

[kyris]

oh yea a beautiful mind was waaaayyy to long and was kinda creepy. of course i think almost everything is creepy...
i know everyone will hate me for this but Two Towers was really, really bad. but thats just because i love the books the way they are. :sigh: books into movies never works.
they destroyed my favorite character, which is treebeard, and destroyed the ents as a people. they didn't even give the dignity to treebeard and the ents to decide on their own to fight isenguard. also they made the ents to be stupid or mentally sluggish...
honestly how could the ents not know that sauromon was ripping out their trees. They live there!! they are the shephards of the trees, their job is to take care of the trees. so how would they not know that saromon was destroying them!! the only reason why did that was so pipen and merry could make that stupid speech about sticking together, saving middle earth, and humanity. that stupid speech did not belong in the movie. sure Tolkien's books have those underlying themes of solidariy and botherhood but they are never drawn out into big long monologues. it makes me sick. and fairimer what were they thinking. the scene where frodo and him talk about the ring is one of my favorites, why did they cut it out??
and lastly why do they have fairimer fall to the ring? that is an important part about the books... boromir falls to the temptation of the ring but his brother will resist it. the point is supposed to be that the blood of numenor isn't all spent. some of it still flows in the steward of
gondor's veins. the rulers of gondor have all fallen to the ring expect for farimer. he is the one person who could take the ring but doesn't. this is important... it shows the time for the destruction of sauron is near. and it gives hope that when the elves leave these shores there will still be men of worth in middle earth. none of this is addressed in the movie. there are other things too that make the two towers, for me, a bad movie. sad, i thought after the fellowship of the ring that this would actally work out...i was wrong. fotr was really good; it deviated from the book some but it was forgiveable, the two towers was just disappointing.

[Mann]

while you make some valid points, they are refuted in the movie anyway:

1) Faramir DOESN'T fall to the ring. In the final sequence with him, he denies the ring. He lets Frodo and Sam go. That's what is different about him and Boromir.


2) the trees being slow is understandable, Treebeard is the oldest living thing in Middle Earth.

[Jedi Killer]

Treebeards look is definately a rip-off of the Neverending Story. and I KNOW what book was written first but we know what movie look was filmed 1st too

[Mann]

So, you know what book was written first, but would you conceed that Part III was a rip off of the description of treebeard?

[Jedi Killer]

probably. but we're talking about the look of treebeard. that fat ass director for LOTR could have done better, i guesss

[Mann]

Originally posted by Jedi Killer@Jun 11 2003, 08:43 PM
probably. but we're talking about the look of treebeard. that fat ass director for LOTR could have done better, i guesss
Jedi Killer, what's wrong with the design for tree beard? The design looked fine to me. And don't talk about people being fat @$$'s.

[Jedi Killer]

It's just my opinion on Treebeard. Didnt care for it. But I LOVED fought at the end of The Two Towers

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by kyris@Jun 11 2003, 01:47 AM
oh yea a beautiful mind was waaaayyy to long and was kinda creepy. of course i think almost everything is creepy...
i know everyone will hate me for this but Two Towers was really, really bad. but thats just because i love the books the way they are. :sigh: books into movies never works.
they destroyed my favorite character, which is treebeard, and destroyed the ents as a people. they didn't even give the dignity to treebeard and the ents to decide on their own to fight isenguard. also they made the ents to be stupid or mentally sluggish...
honestly how could the ents not know that sauromon was ripping out their trees. They live there!! they are the shephards of the trees, their job is to take care of the trees. so how would they not know that saromon was destroying them!! the only reason why did that was so pipen and merry could make that stupid speech about sticking together, saving middle earth, and humanity. that stupid speech did not belong in the movie. sure Tolkien's books have those underlying themes of solidariy and botherhood but they are never drawn out into big long monologues. it makes me sick. and fairimer what were they thinking. the scene where frodo and him talk about the ring is one of my favorites, why did they cut it out??
and lastly why do they have fairimer fall to the ring? that is an important part about the books... boromir falls to the temptation of the ring but his brother will resist it. the point is supposed to be that the blood of numenor isn't all spent. some of it still flows in the steward of
gondor's veins. the rulers of gondor have all fallen to the ring expect for farimer. he is the one person who could take the ring but doesn't. this is important... it shows the time for the destruction of sauron is near. and it gives hope that when the elves leave these shores there will still be men of worth in middle earth. none of this is addressed in the movie. there are other things too that make the two towers, for me, a bad movie. sad, i thought after the fellowship of the ring that this would actally work out...i was wrong. fotr was really good; it deviated from the book some but it was forgiveable, the two towers was just disappointing.
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I liked Two Towers, but I have to agree with some of your points about the ents.</span></span>

[Javen]

Originally posted by Jedi Killer@Jun 11 2003, 02:35 PM
Treebeards look is definately a rip-off of the Neverending Story. and I KNOW what book was written first but we know what movie look was filmed 1st too
So...what's your point?Every movie, song, story always borrows or adds, takes away.Big deal, Treebeard I thought looked good. His personality was good.

[Mann]

I have to say, I hope Eminem can do more movies like 8 mile. It was truly a good movie because of his performance.

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 11 2003, 07:56 PM
I have to say, I hope Eminem can do more movies like 8 mile. It was truly a good movie because of his performance.
Please, you can't be serious. He was stale.

[Mann]

He was raw and he showed potential to be shaped. I'm not saying he can do shakespeare, but he can do more movies about characters he's familiar with.

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 11 2003, 10:37 PM
I'm not saying he can do shakespeare
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">That'd be a thing to see. Romeo and Juliet, starring Eminem and Natalie Portman.</span></span>

[Mann]

How many takes would they have to do before Eminem would stop rapping his lines?

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Shakespeare writings are poetry, so they do have a rhythym. He probably could rap it and make it sound good.</span></span>

[Javen]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 12 2003, 05:54 PM
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Shakespeare writings are poetry, so they do have a rhythym. He probably could rap it and make it sound good.</span></span>
Yeah? Like this?

Juliet, Juliet your the apple of my eye
I cross thou heart, but I really hope you die..whoops you do.
You doest run around on every guy I know
Trailer park trash, trailer park ho
You thought I was in love, But I don't give a f**k
Remember I pushed you out of that moving truck?
Yeah, I'm the Shadeo, the Homeo, the real Slim Romeo
What? You don't like me?well kiss my butt holio
You think I die for you? Drink some poison?
live in a casket? listen to your complaining noises

The Real Slim Romeo

[Mann]

LMAO!!!!!

[kyris]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 12 2003, 07:50 PM
[Yeah? Like this?

Juliet, Juliet your the apple of my eye
I cross thou heart, but I really hope you die..whoops you do.
You doest run around on every guy I know
Trailer park trash, trailer park ho
You thought I was in love, But I don't give a f**k
Remember I pushed you out of that moving truck?
Yeah, I'm the Shadeo, the Homeo, the real Slim Romeo
What? You don't like me?well kiss my butt holio
You think I die for you? Drink some poison?
live in a casket? listen to your complaining noises

The Real Slim Romeo
<span style="color:green">wow Javen that was great...
i do agree javen i don't like eminem as an actor. i think he should stick to music and stay out of acting. however, i might have a slightly biased opinion b/c i cannot take his music. its very graphic and too full of hate. but what really bothers me is the fact that his hate and violence are what makes him so appealing to people esp. people my age. his acting was good, not bad, i defenitly wasn't horrible or anything. but as someone in my chemistry class said "the climax of the movie was when he rapped in a battle". thats it. </span>

[Javen]

Yeah I agree. I'm not really an Eminem fan either.The movie wasn't bad, but it wasn't an award worthy on either.

[Mann]

The song was great though. I love his song.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Javen@Jun 12 2003, 04:50 PM
Yeah, I'm the Shadeo, the Homeo, the real Slim Romeo
What? You don't like me?well kiss my butt holio


OMG! That is funny! :roll:

[Blizzard]

LOL Jay!!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[Javen]

I was looking at the official Hulk magazine yesterday when I went to the store.I was looking at the stills of The Hulk and they look really good. But I swear he looks like a big green Jack Black.

But seriously, the latest trailer I've seen and speacial I seen on MTV. The Hulk is really not looking so cartoony anymore. He really looks good.Can I tell he is all CGI? Yes, I can, but he looks better than he did months ago.

[Mann]

I guess we are going to introduce a new kind of rating system on this thread. Javen, QGW and myself will have our own thumbs up rating, which is our say on films.

[Javen]

The last movie I seen was Matrix:Reloaded.

So, I give it a Thumbs up.The story was alittle slow at times.But it left me wanting to see Revolutions badly.

[Mann]

Same here Reloaded gets a big thumbs up. Revolutions will kick @$$

I just want Lucas to see the Burly Brawl, and then say: Gee we should have Anakin fight the Jedi like that. One Sith vs. 100 Jedi!

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 15 2003, 11:56 AM
I just want Lucas to see the Burly Brawl, and then say: Gee we should have Anakin fight the Jedi like that. One Sith vs. 100 Jedi!
That would be crazy.But we know Lucas wouldn't even attempt it.

[Mann]

I used to think that Yoda fighting was somehting that Lucas wasn't going to touch...

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Yoda vs. an entire squadron of the clone army. That'd be great.</span></span>

[Mann]

Some new force power would be cool to see. Something the Jedi use against the clones in a last ditch effort.

[Javen]

How about a force tornado?

[Mann]

hey guys, just heard that a source says Kevin Smith just might have a cameo. I know this is refueted but wouldn't it be funny?

[Jango]

jlo

[Darth Vegas]

This is kinda like Men on Books from In Living Color... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 17 2003, 02:03 PM
hey guys, just heard that a source says Kevin Smith just might have a cameo. I know this is refueted but wouldn't it be funny?
In Episode 3?

I wouldn't doubt it, that'd be pretty cool.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Jun 19 2003, 06:01 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Jun 19 2003, 06:01 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jun 17 2003, 02:03 PM
hey guys, just heard that a source says Kevin Smith just might have a cameo. I know this is refueted but wouldn't it be funny?
In Episode 3?

I wouldn't doubt it, that'd be pretty cool. [/b][/quote]
That would be funny, I heard GL and him are good friends.

[Whitesaber]

While we're on movies, MovieMann, what did you think of Hollywood Homicide? Not the best movie, I say, and not the best cop/comedy either. The beginning was slow, but the middle and end parts really made up for that with its funniness. What did you think?

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">I'm not gonna see it. It doesn't look that good. But I like cop/comedies. I like buddy flicks alltogether. I hope they make Rush Hour 3.</span></span>

[Justin]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 25 2003, 07:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 25 2003, 07:17 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by TK-007@Jun 19 2003, 06:01 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jun 17 2003, 02:03 PM
hey guys, just heard that a source says Kevin Smith just might have a cameo. I know this is refueted but wouldn't it be funny?
In Episode 3?

I wouldn't doubt it, that'd be pretty cool.
That would be funny, I heard GL and him are good friends. [/b][/quote]
Are you serious?? Smith totally cracks on the prequels.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jun 25 2003, 09:57 PM
While we're on movies, MovieMann, what did you think of Hollywood Homicide? Not the best movie, I say, and not the best cop/comedy either. The beginning was slow, but the middle and end parts really made up for that with its funniness. What did you think?
never saw it, don't really care to see it, but I might rent it. I'll leave my judgement for when I see it. however I'm a huge Harrison Ford fan, but Josh Harnett is not my favorite actor.

[Whitesaber]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 26 2003, 12:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 26 2003, 12:02 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Jun 25 2003, 09:57 PM
While we're on movies, MovieMann, what did you think of Hollywood Homicide? Not the best movie, I say, and not the best cop/comedy either. The beginning was slow, but the middle and end parts really made up for that with its funniness. What did you think?
never saw it, don't really care to see it, but I might rent it. I'll leave my judgement for when I see it. however I'm a huge Harrison Ford fan, but Josh Harnett is not my favorite actor. [/b][/quote]
Exactly my feelings. Harrison does a good job at the clumsy role as always. The end is especially good. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

BTW, Mann, I totally refuse to see the Hulk because he's computer generated. Is that wrong or strange?

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>BTW, Mann, I totally refuse to see the Hulk because he's computer generated. Is that wrong or strange? [/b][/quote]

If you want a realistic Hulk straight from the comics, the way to go is CG i think. It makes sense. He's 15 feet tall in the comics, you can;t find a guy like that. Animatronics would be too fake.

however, if you feel you shouldn't see it than don;t. I liked it, but other didn;t.

[non compos mentis]

I think The Hulk was very good. Nick Nolte was fabulous in it. It really wasn't a movie targeting the younger audience but the action scenes were ****ing awesome. I don't think there is any other way to describe them. But Ang Lee is really proving he a damn good director, one of the best out there right now.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Whitesaber@Jun 26 2003, 11:27 AM
BTW, Mann, I totally refuse to see the Hulk because he's computer generated. Is that wrong or strange?
Dude, you're missing out, seriously, go see it, like now, I'm serious, I'll even Fed Ex your ticket to you if I have to, it's that f*cking good of a movie, best movie of this summer so far.

[non compos mentis]

ahum, yes.

I agree

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007+Jun 26 2003, 09:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Jun 26 2003, 09:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Jun 26 2003, 11:27 AM
BTW, Mann, I totally refuse to see the Hulk because he's computer generated. Is that wrong or strange?
Dude, you're missing out, seriously, go see it, like now, I'm serious, I'll even Fed Ex your ticket to you if I have to, it's that f*cking good of a movie, best movie of this summer so far. [/b][/quote]
Matrix Realoaded Was better I think.

[non compos mentis]

Mann, do you have a top 10 for movies?

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 26 2003, 10:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 26 2003, 10:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by TK-007@Jun 26 2003, 09:55 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Whitesaber@Jun 26 2003, 11:27 AM
BTW, Mann, I totally refuse to see the Hulk because he's computer generated. Is that wrong or strange?
Dude, you're missing out, seriously, go see it, like now, I'm serious, I'll even Fed Ex your ticket to you if I have to, it's that f*cking good of a movie, best movie of this summer so far.
Matrix Realoaded Was better I think. [/b][/quote]
Reloaded was really nothing but fight after fight after fight, Hulk had plot and some really good acting performances at it's heart, Reloaded was almost entirely void of that, there was nothing really new and different about Reloaded at all, not to mention the Matrix has possibly the worst lead actor of all time, IMHO, that's why Hulk was the better movie, it was fresh and new, it was something different.

[Count Dookie]

Originally posted by QuigonWindu@Jun 1 2003, 02:30 PM
<span style="color:purple"><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">Why does everyone care so much about post count. I think my posts per day is a few less then 16 or 15. I think that people with post counts of over 20 per day need to get a life, no offense</span></span>
Amen brother!!!! People think that by making simple post such as a smile or one word is fine with them. Occationaly that is cool, but to do it to get your post count up is crazy. Get a life!!!! No offense....who cares if your offended style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by non compos mentis@Jun 27 2003, 06:26 AM
Mann, do you have a top 10 for movies?
yes I do. Top Ten of All time:

1) Pulp Fiction (take note all you PT fans, this is real writing)
2) Se7en
3) LotR saga
4) Heat
5) SW OT saga
6) Schindler's List
7) The Untouchables
8) The Matrix
9) American Beauty
10) Saving Private Ryan

yes I know they are all newer films, but the 90's is my generation, and these are the best of those.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Reloaded was really nothing but fight after fight after fight, Hulk had plot and some really good acting performances at it's heart, Reloaded was almost entirely void of that, there was nothing really new and different about Reloaded at all, not to mention the Matrix has possibly the worst lead actor of all time, IMHO, that's why Hulk was the better movie, it was fresh and new, it was something different. [/b][/quote]

You bash a movie that you made a message board about?

A) Reloaded has too much plot I thought, it got confusing but i guess that's cause it hasn't been finished

B) The Fight scenes were alot more realistic than Hulks

C) I think Keanu isn't a great actor but he isn't the worst. That is Pauly shore.

D) Forget for a second that Hulk had only 5 real performances, but that Matrix had about 4 times that many. not to mention the french dude (whose names I wont try to say) was such a brilliant performance, and Hugo Weaving establishes one of cinemas best continuous villians.

Hulk was I good I agree, but the plot was not that complex. It was different from other comic books, but they decided to go with the father and son fighting which was cool, but not anything special or necessary.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 07:22 AM
You bash a movie that you made a message board about?

I didn't bash the movie, I said the Hulk was better, because it was.

I loved Reloaded great action film, but not a really great film.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>A) Reloaded has too much plot I thought, it got confusing but i guess that's cause it hasn't been finished[/b][/quote]

I think the confusion here is that you thought it had plot, it didn't have much of that at all, IMHO. Not a very complex one anyway, it had a bunch of pointless fight scenes, and the other half of the film was jammed packed full of rescuing the key-maker, and the key maker giving Neo a key, and then a scene with Neo and the architect that just made your head hurt, only to then have the dream thing explained when Neo flies to save Trinity! Whoa!

Not much plot indeed.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>B) The Fight scenes were alot more realistic than Hulks[/b][/quote]

That's just silly, seriously, please tell me you're joking, there's nothing at all realistic about the fight scenes in the Matrix they completely defy the laws of physics, while Hulk remains true to Earth's natural laws. (there's no scientific law that says a geek can't turn into a huge green muscle)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>C) I think Keanu isn't a great actor but he isn't the worst. That is Pauly shore.[/b][/quote]

Dude Pauly Shore never tried to be a serious actor.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>D) Forget for a second that Hulk had only 5 real performances, but that Matrix had about 4 times that many.[/b][/quote]

Well the Hulk only centered on 5 characters, Reloaded was full of a bunch of tiny parts that added almost nothing to the movie. (such as Niobe, Ghost, Persephone, Seraph)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Hulk was I good I agree, but the plot was not that complex. [/b][/quote]

Definately dissagree with you there, it was very complex, especially for a movie based off of a comic book.

[Angel Starmaster]

Uhm TK-Bond? All the extra stuff about Niobe, Ghost, Persephone, and Seraph can be found in the game "Enter the Matrix," which actually adds to the story. It fills in the little holes, if you will.

Good God I can't wait til November. I have faith in the Watchoski Bros. creative genious. They've got a well thought out plot and only they know where they're going with it. Look at it. It's the same as the original SW trilogy. Check this out;
1) SW; ANH - Ending clincher. Could have quit right there and it would've been a stand-alone film.
The Matrix - Same thing. No cliffhangar. That could have been it, right there.

2) SW; ESB - Or hero finds out his Daddy was a bad, bad man.
The Matrix - Neo Finds out .... well, I'm not gonna spoil it. But if you've seen it you should be able to see the reference.

3) Now think back. If you'd seen SW ANH and SW ESB but NOT RTJ, wouldn't you have been saying the SAME exact thing? The Endings are the same!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Angel Starmaster@Jun 27 2003, 09:49 AM
Uhm TK-Bond? All the extra stuff about Niobe, Ghost, Persephone, and Seraph can be found in the game "Enter the Matrix," which actually adds to the story. It fills in the little holes, if you will.
Yes I know that, however, it doesn't fill "all the holes", it doesn't do much explaining for Persephone of Seraph, except to show one of them likes to kiss--everyone and the other likes has to fight everyone, and that was stupid for them to make you need the video game in order to understand the movie.

The sequel should always stand alone, and this one didn't at all.

[Krogenar]

I'm going out to see '28 Days Later' as soon as I can. I like the look of the film, and the reviews so far have been excellent. That, and I love a good zombie film.

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 27 2003, 10:15 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 27 2003, 10:15 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-non compos mentis@Jun 27 2003, 06:26 AM
Mann, do you have a top 10 for movies?
yes I do. Top Ten of All time:

1) Pulp Fiction (take note all you PT fans, this is real writing)
2) Se7en
3) LotR saga
4) Heat
5) SW OT saga
6) Schindler's List
7) The Untouchables
8) The Matrix
9) American Beauty
10) Saving Private Ryan

yes I know they are all newer films, but the 90's is my generation, and these are the best of those. [/b][/quote]
Mann... you and I have a lot of the same taste in film... but I am appalled that Schindler's was so low on the list... it is far superior than Pulp Fiction (which was also very good)...

To me... Schindler's List is filmmaking at it's glorious best... it is the perfect film... albeit very tragic and sad subject matter... the film itself is a beautiful work...

Sorry... my 2 cents... Most of those others (except Heat) are pretty high on mine as well... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Frendon]

Originally posted by TK-007+Jun 27 2003, 12:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-007 @ Jun 27 2003, 12:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Angel Starmaster@Jun 27 2003, 09:49 AM
Uhm TK-Bond? All the extra stuff about Niobe, Ghost, Persephone, and Seraph can be found in the game "Enter the Matrix," which actually adds to the story. It fills in the little holes, if you will.
Yes I know that, however, it doesn't fill "all the holes", it doesn't do much explaining for Persephone of Seraph, except to show one of them likes to kiss--everyone and the other likes has to fight everyone, and that was stupid for them to make you need the video game in order to understand the movie.

The sequel should always stand alone, and this one didn't at all. [/b][/quote]
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">INT. WELL-LIT, NON-NOIR WHITE ROOM

KEANU enters a white room, the walls of which are covered
in monitors. A chair spins around to reveal THE EXPLAINER.

KEANU REEVES
Who are you?

THE EXPLAINER
I am The Explainer. I designed the
matrix screenplay. Unable to
decently explain the convoluted plot
well, I have resorted to putting
myself here in the final act and
having you ask all of the questions
the audience wants to ask.
(dramatic pause)
You must begin by asking your own
questions then gradually switch to
asking those of the audience, in
order to not make this scene any
more awkward than it already is.
Concordantly, while your first
question may be the most pertinent,
you may or may not realize it is
also the most irrelevant.

KEANU REEVES
Why am I here?

THE EXPLAINER
Many years ago, shortly before the
success of Speed, you sold your soul
to the devil in exchange for a
promise of notoriety that your
piss-poor acting skills do not
deserve. This series is the
actualization of this promise.

KEANU REEVES
What was the Osiris? And who was
that kid in zion who kept pestering
me?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to these
questions by purchasing The
Animatrix, a collection of nine
animated shorts from some of Anime's
top directors.

KEANU REEVES
Alright. Well, what was that crap
Glora said about vampires and
werewolves? And how did Jada Pinkett
Smith get to Laurence Fishburne
during the car chase? And what the
hell happened during the power plant
takeover climax that-wasn't?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to those
questions by purchasing the Enter
The Matrix game, available for
Windows, Playstation2, Xbox, and
Gamecube. Enter the Matrix features
awesome gunplay and spectacular
martial arts that bend the rules of
the Matrix. This game isn't just
set in the Matrix universe--it's an
integral part of the experience,
with a story that weaves in and out
of The Matrix Reloaded. Enter the
Matrix is the story behind the
story.

KEANU REEVES
Fine! Then tell me this, what the
hell is with Hugo Weaving saying he
and I have some special connection?
And how come I can control machines
in the real world? And will we win
the war if I don't choose the door
to my right?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to these
questions when you watch The Matrix
Revolutions, coming later in 2003.

KEANU REEVES
I hate you.

THE EXPLAINER
Perhaps you should drink more
Powerade.

KEANU REEVES
Just answer me one question. We're
not going to find out that the real
world is in another matrix, are we?

THE EXPLAINER
Christ I hope not.</span>

[QuigonWindu]

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">lol style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif </span></span>

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>That's just silly, seriously, please tell me you're joking, there's nothing at all realistic about the fight scenes in the Matrix they completely defy the laws of physics, while Hulk remains true to Earth's natural laws. (there's no scientific law that says a geek can't turn into a huge green muscle)[/b][/quote]

Let's see, the MAtrix, that's a COMPUTER PROGRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They have no boundaries! they can do whatever!

(sorry, but if you didn't get that part, you don't understand the film)

The Hulk also had action scenes that worked (San Fransisco), but the fight with his dad was not so hot, and left reality.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Dude Pauly Shore never tried to be a serious actor.[/b][/quote]

so? comedy is harder than drama Bond. I know, I've tried it. Comedy is the hardest form of entertaining.

and Keanu succeeds sometimes at comedy: Big And Ted movies, The Replacements

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Definately dissagree with you there, it was very complex, especially for a movie based off of a comic book. [/b][/quote]

Here it is in one sentence:

Mad scientist has a screwy gened kid that accidentally gets exposed to radiation and becomes an invincible monster that the military tries to kill, but the only way he can be stopped is by seeing his girlfriend.

to add on one more sentence:

He fights his dad later.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Mann... you and I have a lot of the same taste in film... but I am appalled that Schindler's was so low on the list... it is far superior than Pulp Fiction (which was also very good)...

To me... Schindler's List is filmmaking at it's glorious best... it is the perfect film... albeit very tragic and sad subject matter... the film itself is a beautiful work...
[/b][/quote]

Pulp Fiction is my favorite film. The writing, acting and style is perfect. It is the best of it's genre and it's a genre i love. Even JT who is a bad actor, does very good work.

SL is a perfect film I agree. It and Saving Private Ryan are the only films to make me cry. It is glorious, and the work is flawless by everyone. It's low because at times some converstations were too long, but in the end i realized they needed to be. It's Speilberg's greatest film, and the one he will be remembered for.

[Darth Vegas]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Here it is in one sentence:

Mad scientist has a screwy gened kid that accidentally gets exposed to radiation and becomes an invincible monster that the military tries to kill, but the only way he can be stopped is by seeing his girlfriend.

to add on one more sentence:

He fights his dad later. [/b][/quote]

Well that covers about 30% of the film, you conviently leave out all the stuff about repressed memories, young Bruce witnessing his father murder his mother, that burried fear and anger later feeding the monster inside of him, you leave out the relationship between him and Betty, a very important part of the story, you leave out the very realistic science in the movie, the people trying to exploit the Hulk so they can use him to make $$$...

The emotional baggage that Bruce carries around is what makes this film more complex, him trying to figure out what happened to him all those years ago at Desert Base, those sorta concepts are very foreign to comic book films, you don't normally find such good performances and such emotion in that sorta movie.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Frendon+Jun 27 2003, 11:07 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frendon @ Jun 27 2003, 11:07 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by TK-007@Jun 27 2003, 12:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Angel Starmaster@Jun 27 2003, 09:49 AM
Uhm TK-Bond? All the extra stuff about Niobe, Ghost, Persephone, and Seraph can be found in the game "Enter the Matrix," which actually adds to the story. It fills in the little holes, if you will.
Yes I know that, however, it doesn't fill "all the holes", it doesn't do much explaining for Persephone of Seraph, except to show one of them likes to kiss--everyone and the other likes has to fight everyone, and that was stupid for them to make you need the video game in order to understand the movie.

The sequel should always stand alone, and this one didn't at all.
style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">INT. WELL-LIT, NON-NOIR WHITE ROOM

KEANU enters a white room, the walls of which are covered
in monitors. A chair spins around to reveal THE EXPLAINER.

KEANU REEVES
Who are you?

THE EXPLAINER
I am The Explainer. I designed the
matrix screenplay. Unable to
decently explain the convoluted plot
well, I have resorted to putting
myself here in the final act and
having you ask all of the questions
the audience wants to ask.
(dramatic pause)
You must begin by asking your own
questions then gradually switch to
asking those of the audience, in
order to not make this scene any
more awkward than it already is.
Concordantly, while your first
question may be the most pertinent,
you may or may not realize it is
also the most irrelevant.

KEANU REEVES
Why am I here?

THE EXPLAINER
Many years ago, shortly before the
success of Speed, you sold your soul
to the devil in exchange for a
promise of notoriety that your
piss-poor acting skills do not
deserve. This series is the
actualization of this promise.

KEANU REEVES
What was the Osiris? And who was
that kid in zion who kept pestering
me?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to these
questions by purchasing The
Animatrix, a collection of nine
animated shorts from some of Anime's
top directors.

KEANU REEVES
Alright. Well, what was that crap
Glora said about vampires and
werewolves? And how did Jada Pinkett
Smith get to Laurence Fishburne
during the car chase? And what the
hell happened during the power plant
takeover climax that-wasn't?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to those
questions by purchasing the Enter
The Matrix game, available for
Windows, Playstation2, Xbox, and
Gamecube. Enter the Matrix features
awesome gunplay and spectacular
martial arts that bend the rules of
the Matrix. This game isn't just
set in the Matrix universe--it's an
integral part of the experience,
with a story that weaves in and out
of The Matrix Reloaded. Enter the
Matrix is the story behind the
story.

KEANU REEVES
Fine! Then tell me this, what the
hell is with Hugo Weaving saying he
and I have some special connection?
And how come I can control machines
in the real world? And will we win
the war if I don't choose the door
to my right?

THE EXPLAINER
You will find the answers to these
questions when you watch The Matrix
Revolutions, coming later in 2003.

KEANU REEVES
I hate you.

THE EXPLAINER
Perhaps you should drink more
Powerade.

KEANU REEVES
Just answer me one question. We're
not going to find out that the real
world is in another matrix, are we?

THE EXPLAINER
Christ I hope not.</span> [/b][/quote]
ROTFLMMFAO! :roll:

That was great, thanks Frendon!

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 12:25 PM
so? comedy is harder than drama Bond. I know, I've tried it. Comedy is the hardest form of entertaining.
And what does that ahve to do with what I said about Pauly Shore? He made some pretty funny movies.

Keanu Reeves is taken as a serious actor and he sucks, period, he can't act, you should see him in interviews and at premieres (if you havn't yet), he's an absolute bore.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Well that covers about 30% of the film, you conviently leave out all the stuff about repressed memories, young Bruce witnessing his father murder his mother, that burried fear and anger later feeding the monster inside of him, you leave out the relationship between him and Betty, a very important part of the story, you leave out the very realistic science in the movie, the people trying to exploit the Hulk so they can use him to make $$$... [/b][/quote]

supressed memories go along with the "screwy" part of what i said.

the relationship feeds into why it calms him down.

the realistic science? oh come on, it's contrived and doesn't work. If you injected yourself with genes like that, they don't spread, it would probably kill you. and radiation would kill people, and genes that make you invincible are crazy. To to mention the explosion that occurs that does no damage, to the town.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>And what does that ahve to do with what I said about Pauly Shore? He made some pretty funny movies.[/b][/quote]

Dude, you can't be serious? Pauly Shore is the worst actor in history, or at least in the 90's.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Keanu Reeves is taken as a serious actor and he sucks, period, he can't act, you should see him in interviews and at premieres (if you havn't yet), he's an absolute bore[/b][/quote]

The Matrix and Speed are some examples that Keanu can do some of the right stuff. He does choose some bad stuff, but he has some talent. Comedy and action are his thing. He's also one of the highest paid actors of all time.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 12:39 PM
the realistic science? oh come on, it's contrived and doesn't work. If you injected yourself with genes like that, they don't spread, it would probably kill you. and radiation would kill people, and genes that make you invincible are crazy.
I didn't say it was actual real science, but it is made very realistic, very believable to the audience, Ang Lee's wife contributed greatly to this film in that department, she's a world reknown molecular biologist.

No one injected theirself with some special gene, nothing "spreaded" as you put it.

And not to leave this out: it's a frickin' movie!

For this sorta movie the science was very well explained and seemed very realistic, they actually took the time to explain things, unlike Spiderman, genetically enhanced super-spider bites Peter Parker and miraculously turns him into Spiderman! Or Daredevil, stupid kid gets blinded by some kinda acid and goes blind and somehow his other sense become more powerful! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

They delved in deep into real science and into making there sudo-science seem real, made the film very interesting.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 12:41 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>And what does that ahve to do with what I said about Pauly Shore? He made some pretty funny movies.

Dude, you can't be serious? Pauly Shore is the worst actor in history, or at least in the 90's. [/b][/quote]
Again, he never tried to be a serious actor, doesn't take much acting talent to amek zany comdies like Encino Man and Jury Duty, and In the Army now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The Matrix and Speed are some examples that Keanu can do some of the right stuff.[/b][/quote]

Umm, right stuff? Are you trying to say those are examples that he can act? Those were very dry and boring performances, good movies, no doubt, but it wasn't because of him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>He does choose some bad stuff, but he has some talent. Comedy and action are his thing. He's also one of the highest paid actors of all time[/b][/quote]

Gee, Ahhnuld was THE highest paid actor of all time when he signed on for T3 (30 million) and look at the credit you give him... :whatsthat:

[QuigonWindu]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 04:41 PM
Dude, you can't be serious? Pauly Shore is the worst actor in history, or at least in the 90's.
<span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:purple">Lets not say things we cant take back, remember Britney Spears acting, like a virigin. Pauly Shore was may more convincing then that.</span></span>

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>For this sorta movie the science was very well explained and seemed very realistic, they actually took the time to explain things, unlike Spiderman, genetically enhanced super-spider bites Peter Parker and miraculously turns him into Spiderman! Or Daredevil, stupid kid gets blinded by some kinda acid and goes blind and somehow his other sense become more powerful! [/b][/quote]

Spiderman originally was a radioactive spider, then they said a genetic spider, whatever the reason it's still stupid because all comic book creations like this are. Hulk deals more with this guy injects himself, then he conceives a kid who gets the genes. He didn't inject it you know where, it spread all over him. It's in all his cells now, and Bruce's. Bruce just reacts differently because he it is completely natural to him, while David is unnatural.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 27 2003, 12:57 PM
He didn't inject it you know where, it spread all over him. It's in all his cells now, and Bruce's. Bruce just reacts differently because he it is completely natural to him, while David is unnatural.
He injected himself with something, and the effect was passed on to his son, it didn't do anything to him, David later on injected himself with Bruce's dna and turned himself into a monster.