MOVIES: Pirates of the Caribbean

[Padme]

So, is anyone else looking forward to seeing Pirates of the Caribbean? I know I am!!

[Padme]

Here are some pics:

[Padme]

Here is another pic of my favorite actor:

[Mann]

Gee, I wonder why you want to see this...?

[Javen]

That's what I was thinking. Only I want to see it for a different reasin than Padme.

[Mann]

why...Johnny Depp? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Padme]

Well, I love action movies and I like all the movies and stuff about pirates. Also, having two of the hottest guys in Hollywood star in a movie together is a plus for me!

[Mann]

Yeah, Geoffery Rush...hot stuff!

[Marbleman]

javen you want to see it for keira knightley? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif or do you have a special thing for the undead! :eek:

[Padme]

Geoffery Rush.... hot stuff?? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif

[Mann]

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/PiratesoftheCaribbean/pirates_6.jpg

^
good stuff

[Darth Vegas]

Natalie's twin... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

[Mann]

um, almost. Not quite as hot!

[RollaFett]

This movie, without a doubt, looks absolutely awful.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@May 25 2003, 03:49 PM
um, almost. Not quite as hot!
Well, maybe, but her own mother mistook her for Natalie in a few scenes from TPM.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by GollaFett@May 25 2003, 03:56 PM
This movie, without a doubt, looks absolutely awful.
Other than the effects, yes it does.

[Justin]

I think it looks awesome. I love movies like this.

[Mann]

Originally posted by GollaFett@May 25 2003, 11:56 PM
This movie, without a doubt, looks absolutely awful.
Just the idea is retarded. It shows we've run out of originality for films. Movies based on rides? What have we done!

[Padme]

Come on guys, this movie looks cool and you know it. I think it will be a great movie.

[Mann]

Let's take Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp out of the picture.

Now do you think it's good?

[Padme]

Yes, i do. With or without them I know it is going to be a great movie.

[Mann]

I heard from somebody I know in Disney that it's not great.

[Padme]

Well, I think that it is going to be great!!

[JediJaina]

I think this movie is going to fun. It's one of the very few movies I want to see this summer.

[Mann]

The best quote to my expectations for this movie:

"Thar she blows!"

[Justin]

I hate this, when people get this whole "it will suck" attitude toward movies before they come out and have a chance to be judged on their own merits.

I mean, it's one thing to say "it looks like it will be bad," but to go saying crap about it before you've seen it is wrong. It's like I can't say "it will be cool," because I haven't seen it.

[JediJaina]

I hate that kind of attitude too. It's easy to dismiss this because the inspiration is from a Disney ride, but I have always been fascinated with movies that have some kind of historical theme in it.

[Mann]

That's just my expectations for the film. I think more people laughed at the title than said "ooo" But hey, if it's good,then it exceeds expectations.

[Mann]

What's a pirates favorite letter?

[Javen]

Originally posted by marbleman84@May 25 2003, 06:01 PM
javen you want to see it for keira knightley? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif


Bingo! MM wins a brand new roll of toilet paper. enjoy!

[Padme]

Originally posted by Mann@May 26 2003, 01:20 PM
What's a pirates favorite letter?
Rrrrrrrrrrrrr............. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Marbleman]

Originally posted by Javen+May 26 2003, 02:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Javen @ May 26 2003, 02:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-marbleman84@May 25 2003, 06:01 PM
javen you want to see it for keira knightley? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eh.gif


Bingo! MM wins a brand new roll of toilet paper. enjoy! [/b][/quote]
thanks, judge. just glad to know you and i will watch the flick for the right reasons. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif

well im off to teepee orlando blooms house.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Padme+May 26 2003, 07:42 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Padme @ May 26 2003, 07:42 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@May 26 2003, 01:20 PM
What's a pirates favorite letter?
Rrrrrrrrrrrrr............. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif [/b][/quote]
congrats Padme, you also receive a roll of SC's finest toliet Paper!

[Aurra Sing]

Must...see..this..movie.

[Gobi-1]

The fact the the film is based on a ride is not that big a deal to me. The Disney people create backstories for the rides as elaborate as a extra in Star Wars. Most of the backstories for the Disney rides are so big they coul be turned into movies.

By the way the film is only loosely based on the ride. There will be some surprises for those they have rode the ride.

I myself look forward to the film greatly.

[Padme]

Finally, someone wants to see this movie. I myself can't wait to see it, not because of the two guys in it, but because it looks awesome. I think it will be a very exciting movie to watch.

[Gobi-1]

Here a cool poster for POTC I saved.

[Padme]

That is sweet! I can't wait to see this movie!

[Jango]

you think it is going to be a good movie

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann+May 25 2003, 09:13 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ May 25 2003, 09:13 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-GollaFett@May 25 2003, 11:56 PM
This movie, without a doubt, looks absolutely awful.
Just the idea is retarded. It shows we've run out of originality for films. Movies based on rides? What have we done! [/b][/quote]
Movie ideas come from lots of ideas, Mann. So anidea coming from a Disney Ride doen't mean anything.It doesn't mean it's a bad idea either.I mean come on, look at Fast and the Furious its idea came from stupid looking cars.

[Jango]

Those cars arent stupid looking.there tight looking.

[Javen]

Originally posted by jango@May 31 2003, 02:54 PM
Those cars arent stupid looking.there tight looking.
Sorry, but they are very dumb looking.Now in the first movie, the Dodge Charger, at least didn't look like some Christmas ornament.

[JediJaina]

I've been seeing more and more commercials! I'm soo looking forward to this one.

[Master Sage]

Looks like it will be very exciting.. I hope so.

[Mann]

no reviews yet, I can't tell what it's like.

[nerfer]

<span style="color:c1007e"><span style="font-family:comic sans ms">

Marble you know where Bloom's house is? Tell me, tell me, tell me! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Although I can't leave the house Friday night, Michael Shanks has returned to SG-1 droooooooool. </span></span>

[Gobi-1]

Does anybody know what it is going to be rated? Since it's Disney film it will most likely be PG. It could be PG-13 but it would be a 1st for Disney. They have never released a PG-13 film under the Disney label. Those higher rated films have always been a Touchstone or Hollywood film releases.

I bet it will be PG.

[Mann]

PG-13 I think.

undead people, possible clothes torn off woman.

[Marbleman]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 14 2003, 10:24 PM
PG-13 I think.

undead people, possible clothes torn off woman.
little sis is always watching disney channel and i heard johnny depp being interviewed for POTC on it. it is a disney movie, and disney is always trying to reach a general audience. i bet theyll try to make it pg at least. and the undead guys didnt look scary at all. (of course im not a 12 year old girl who watches liz macgware) ???

nerf, orlando bloom lives somewhere deep in mirkwood. i had to teepee the whole damn forest.

[JediKeri.]

All I can say is, I am going to see this movie...

[Jango]

me too

[Whitesaber]

Me freaking not...

But then again, maybe I will... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[JediJaina]

July 9th!

This is the movie I've looked forward to the most. Yes I'm weird.

[kopernikuz]

It's rated PG-13 for "Action Adventure Violence"...

[Mann]

Originally posted by kopernikuz@Jul 3 2003, 12:37 PM
It's rated PG-13 for "Action Adventure Violence"...
does anyone ever listen to me?

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Mann+Jul 3 2003, 10:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jul 3 2003, 10:43 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-kopernikuz@Jul 3 2003, 12:37 PM
It's rated PG-13 for "Action Adventure Violence"...
does anyone ever listen to me? [/b][/quote]
LOL... you said "I think"... I was just confirming it... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Mann]

yeah, I know. That was just to reiterate that people on this thread insisted that Disney wouldn't release a movie with a PG-13 rating.

One Word: Pearl Harbor

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 3 2003, 01:00 PM
yeah, I know. That was just to reiterate that people on this thread insisted that Disney wouldn't release a movie with a PG-13 rating.

One Word: Pearl Harbor
Pearl Harbor... wasn't released under the Disney label... it was released under it's subsidiary. This is the first movie to carry the Disney label that is pg-13... it's getting flak for it actually... kind of lame.

[JediJaina]

That is lame! This is going to sound corny, but PG-13 sounds promising than if it got a PG or G rating. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Mann]

The movie I want to see from Disney is Hildago.

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by JediJaina@Jul 3 2003, 01:43 PM
That is lame! This is going to sound corny, but PG-13 sounds promising than if it got a PG or G rating. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
I know... it's just that as "Disney" they've always produced family oriented work... all PG and G... they've produced all manner of other stuff through their subsidiary companies... but only family fare has garnered the "Disney" emblem. People are worried that they're changing their image. I mean Harry Potter was spooky and scary and kept it PG... that's what people are complaining about.

Kids want to see any movie with "Disney" on the poster... some kids won't get to see this one... at least not right away...

I say who cares... it should be fun!

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by Justin@May 25 2003, 06:25 PM
I think it looks awesome. I love movies like this.
me too! I hope it's great campy fun like Raiders of the Lost Ark style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

For me a movie doesn't have to be an Oscar contender to be good, it just has to engage my imagination for a few hours style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[JediJaina]

A net friend went to see it at midnight. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

[JediKeri.]

I'm going today! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif

EDIT: Ok, I saw it. It was...interesting. Ladies, Orlando is still the cute one, if you know what I mean. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

There's this one scene near the end where they do Kiera's hair up so that she looks like Natalie Portman. It's unreal....

[JediJaina]

I want to see this movie!! ACK!

[Padme]

I can't wait to see this movie. I want to go this weekend, but I don't know if I will yet.

[Jango]

this movie will suck

[JediJaina]

Originally posted by jango@Jul 9 2003, 11:05 PM
this movie will suck
So far the people that have seen it that I know have liked it a lot. Why don't you go watch and judge for yourself.

[Dark Skywalker 9]

Pirates was a great flick. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Good story, pretty good acting...and what's better than swordplay, gunfights and skeletal pirates blowing stuff up. Johnny Depp was a great scalawag. Keira Knightley is just drop dead gorgeous and looks so much like Natalie in some scenes. Geoffrey Rush and Orlando Bloom were also excellent. A very fun movie from beginning to end. Two thumbs up from me!

[Rob]

Originally posted by jango@Jul 9 2003, 10:05 PM
this movie will suck
And it did. My other half and I checked it out tonight, we were thoroughly bored and unimpressed. The beginning was slow, then it worked up just a bit to a fun level, then dropped off the scale style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">SPOILERS BELOW</span>

I don't even remember the character names, so forgive me for naming the actors instead. Sorry guys, this isn't going to be a fun ride if you liked the movie.

Johnny Depp's character was interesting and fun when he first came about. Very unpredictable, enthusiastic and entertaining. However, once Knightley's character was kidnapped his character took a back seat to Orlando Bloom's Tanner (only character name that I remember). There was a back plot that wasn't entirely explained, which sucked, and Tanner took out the usefulness of Depp entirely too early.

Knightley was impressive in the fact that she struck me as being more beautiful than Portman, but her character was stale and seemed to be constantly nagging about every little thing that was occuring.

Bloom's character was a putz as well, a good fighter though, but the lack of the inclusion of the full back story made it rough to identify with him in the film. I preferred him in his other films.

The effects were ok, and I liked the sequences with the skeleton crew, those parts brought the true spirit to the movie. Unfortunately the combination of the action and the effects left little to be desired and I drifted off to sleep after a relatively easy day because of lack of proper pacing and piss poor character development.

If I had to rate it, I wouldn't. The last film that put me to sleep in the theater was Attack of the Clones, and before that it was Pearl Harbor. If you're a fan of character development, good pacing, and fun movies don't waste your time on this.

[kopernikuz]

Nat or Not?

[Mann]

you think she looked like nat then?

http://www.fan-sites.org/keira-knightley/images/fulls/pirates_premiere/b19.jpg

[Rob]

Kiera's definitely more attractive than Natalie. Her voice is more defined and I thought that her acting skills in Pirates far surpassed those of Portman that I've seen.

She should have been Padme and Lucas should have made Portman the handmaiden style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Mann]

in laymen's terms: Hell No.

She's hot, but Natalie is hotter. And other than Star Wars, Natalie can act, seeing as her other roles like the Professional, and Beautiful Girls got her alot of attetnion. not to Mention Anywhere but here.

Nightley is good, but nothing I haven't seen before.

[bodegage]

I like Knightley! She is more attractive and a better actor...though I've seen her in one movie (Bend it LIke Beckham) but then the only thing I've seen Portman in is Star Wars. I don't think Portman is that hot in the first place.

[Mann]

this inspired a poll...

[JediKeri.]

You guys are too serious...style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Leia]

Ahhhh! I just saw it and it is soooo awesome! That was about the most fun movie you could go to! Johnny Depp was sooo awesome, he played that character so well! And I always have had something for guys with kohl rimmed eyes, heh heh (only in movies and only when it's appropriate for the character style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif ). I don't know how anybody could have gone to see that movie and been bored, it's the best movie I've seen all summer! Rob, perhaps you can tell me the back story that you didn't understand and perhaps I'll be able to explain it to you.

[Justin]

I'll agree with my sister that this is the best movie I've seen so far this summer. Very cool, and a lot of fun. I thought the story and characters were engaging, the action was fantastic, and the special effects were very well-done.

[JediJaina]

Originally posted by JediKeri@Jul 10 2003, 04:21 PM
You guys are too serious...style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
I concur. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[bodhisattva yoda]

it sucked.

[Justin]

whatever.

[Mann]

I saw it, and I think it actually was a fun movie. By no means a great film, but I can't deny i had a good time. This should confirm Orlando Bloom is a star without LotR. Let's hope he can do more good work. I can just see him doing some sort of Romatic comedy in the future.

Geoffery Rush and Johnny Depp save this movie. Overacting is something only proffessionals should do, and they do it marvelously. Rush is my favorite villian so far this year.

[Justin]

Wow, you did a total 180 on that.

[Mann]

The key: very little expectations.

[Leia]

I don't know, you can ruin a movie if you go into it thinking it's going to suck. That's why I never see a movie with that expectation! It's like people want it to suck, so it doesn't matter if it was a fun movie. I can tell a few people on this board must have gone to see Pirates with that expectation ???

[Mann]

hey, It's the opposite. going into the movie and thinking you will be impressed but rather become underwhelmed.

[Leia]

yeah, well I think it's a good idea to think, well, maybe this movie isn't going to be the best movie in the world, but I'm going to enjoy it anyway! That's kind of what I was thinking going into T3

[BL-17]

I saw it last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Some of the fighting sequences seemed pointless (I was literally sitting in my seat thinking "Is this going anywhere?"), but nevertheless somewhat interesting due to the fairly interesting characters. It was overall much better than I thought it was going to be.

I agree with a number of others. I don't know how someone could go into a movie like Pirates and expect an Oscar-caliber performance. Lately, I've had to go into movies expecting absolutely nothing for fear of being gravely disappointed.

[Leia]

Do fight sequences have to have a point? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif I thought the whole point of fight sequences (especially in swashbuckling movies) is just to look cool, heh heh.

[Javen]

Does anyone like movies anymore? I mean every movie that comes out, most everyone here is peeing in their pants to go see it. And then peeing in their pants because they didn't like it. WTF? did I just say? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Leia]

well, you left the 'one' out of 'everyone' but I understood what you meant style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif. I try not to analyze my movies too much, that way I never pick something apart so much that I end up hating it.

[Marbleman]

^right. i chock up alot of movie criticism to nit-picking, unreasonable expectations, and in some cases, mob mentality. many, many people make up their minds in advance. fine with me, just dont ruin my mindless movie fun! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif i go to movies to be mindlessly entertained, eat popcorn, and snuggle. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif

i dont go to movies for enlightenment, and if a movie makes me think a deep thought (besides some universal truth) i am pleasantly surprised. i am going to see POTC this weekend and ill make my judgement after.

[bluemilk]

Originally posted by marbleman84@Jul 11 2003, 10:24 PM
i dont go to movies for enlightenment, and if a movie makes me think a deep thought (besides some universal truth) i am pleasantly surprised. i am going to see POTC this weekend and ill make my judgement after.
amen style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif

I thought Johnny Depp was fabulous and the movie was just...fun and well worth my free movie pass style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

[Javen]

This movie seems to be blowing the critics out of the water. By word of mouth from people on the internet and friends I know that have seen it, it is getting good reviews. Only the critics are having the problems. I've seenmore good than bad.

So on that note. At 12:30 I'll be in the theatre watching this movie. Arggg...

[JediKeri.]

Justin, never listen to critics. They never get it right anyway. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Mann]

um, Javen, do you go by an alias named Justin?

And the critics usually do get alot of movies right. I mean, they get the PT right, and LotR right.

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 12 2003, 10:57 AM
um, Javen, do you go by an alias named Justin?

And the critics usually do get alot of movies right. I mean, they get the PT right, and LotR right.
What is that suppose to mean? I just got back from seeing the movie and the critics are wrong. It was an excellent movie. Probably won't win anything. But, so what. It was 12:30 in the day and when I went to see it, it was almost packed for a midday showing. It was a fun movie worth seeing. Better than Hulk was I'll grant that much on it.

I don't see your point bringing up the PT. It has nothing to do with this movie. Critics are not always right. They can't read my mind and possibly know what I like and dislike. Saying don't go see this or that. Ebert 99% of the time hates what I like. I don't listen to them.

[Vibroblade]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I mean, they get the PT right, and LotR right.[/b][/quote]

That's a matter of opinion ( on both accounts ). I, for one, disagreed with the critics to a certain extent on BOTH accounts. Not that this has anything to do with the thread of course.

Back to subject, I hope to see the POTC tonight. I go in with high expectations so I'll test Mr. Mann's theory out tonight.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What is that suppose to mean? [/b][/quote]

JediKeri called you Justin, not Javen. No insult was intended.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I just got back from seeing the movie and the critics are wrong. It was an excellent movie. [/b][/quote]

the critics like PotC. see here: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Piratesoft...kPearl-1123873/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/PiratesoftheCaribbeanTheCurseoftheBlackPearl-1123873/)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Better than Hulk was I'll grant that much on it. [/b][/quote]

So much better I agree. the f/x were actually a something to behold (battles and such in the moon light were good eye candy). the second best summer movie so far this year, behind Matrix Reloaded. I love this film.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Ebert 99% of the time hates what I like. [/b][/quote]

He's not liking the good movies right now, which bmeans he might lose his job. the only review I agree with him on so far this year I think was with Reloaded. Maybe Hulk, even though he liked it more than I did. The one critic who hates movies period is Kenneth Turan, of the Los Angeles Times, seeing as he just loathes any comicbook movie, or action film.

[Justin]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 13 2003, 02:27 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>What is that suppose to mean?

JediKeri called you Justin, not Javen. No insult was intended. [/b][/quote]
LOL I certainly hope not!

[Vibroblade]

Saw POTC tonight and was fairly impressed. I generally hate Johnny Depp but he was extraordinary in this film. His performance alone was worth the price of admission. Overall the movie is a bit too long but a solid summer fx flick.

I'd rate this movie behind X2 as my second favorite movie this summer and just ahead of T3.

[Mann]

I think the camera wokr should be noted in this film. SSome great visuals with just the camera. good close ups. Nice integrating of the f/x.

[Aurra Sing]

Just saw the movie. It was rather good. Johnny Depp was amusing.

[Erick Landrider]

This is a simple aproach that I try to take to most films.

If looks like a duck, walks like a duck and smells like a duck don't set your mouth for turkey

Pirates of the Carribian (yeah, I can't spell. shut up) is produced by Jerry Brockhimer (I refer to my previous statement^), and given the trailors that I saw, I figured I couldn't take it to seriously.

It reminded me of something GL would do (*cough* with someone else writing dialogue *uncough*). Kind of like the Indiana Jones films where it's real, it's exciting, and at the same time gets you close to saying "Yeah right" (in reference to most action sequences)

Over all I enjoyed it, but probably no.4 of the summer films I have seen thus far, behind Matrix, X2, and Bruce Almighty.

[Rob]

Originally posted by Erick Landrider@Jul 13 2003, 10:39 AM
It reminded me of something GL would do (*cough* with someone else writing dialogue *uncough*). Kind of like the Indiana Jones films where it's real, it's exciting, and at the same time gets you close to saying "Yeah right" (in reference to most action sequences)
Fortunately enough it had better dialogue and a hotter leading lady than the Star Wars prequels style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Movie still sucked though.

[Javen]

Originally posted by Rob+Jul 13 2003, 03:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rob @ Jul 13 2003, 03:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Erick Landrider@Jul 13 2003, 10:39 AM
It reminded me of something GL would do (*cough* with someone else writing dialogue *uncough*). Kind of like the Indiana Jones films where it's real, it's exciting, and at the same time gets you close to saying "Yeah right" (in reference to most action sequences)
Fortunately enough it had better dialogue and a hotter leading lady than the Star Wars prequels style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Movie still sucked though. [/b][/quote]
I'm not sure how you could say it sucked. The only problem I had was the fighting sequences was just a bit too long. But that was about it. Maybe 15 minutes could have been cut out.

[Mann]

I think Natalie is still hotter. Knightley just has bigger boobs.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 13 2003, 01:18 PM
I think Natalie is still hotter. Knightley just has bigger boobs.
I watched that whole movie thinking that Knightlely looked a lot like Natalie and then I realized that she played Sabe in TPM.

I would honestly have to say that Knightley is hotter than Natalie though.

[Padme]

I was going to go see this movie today, but did my sister want to go with me, NO! She would rather set and look at her dorky husband than go to the movies with me!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

[padmeamidala]

<span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">Ohmigosh!IjustsawthemovieanditwasAWESOME!!!JohnnyD eppwassooogood&hewassoooogoodlooking!JustthoughtI'dshare...</span>

[Justin]

Originally posted by Padme@Jul 13 2003, 10:16 PM
I was going to go see this movie today, but did my sister want to go with me, NO! She would rather set and look at her dorky husband than go to the movies with me!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif
I'll go with you, Padme.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by padmeamidala@Jul 13 2003, 06:43 PM
<span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">Ohmigosh!IjustsawthemovieanditwasAWESOME!!!JohnnyD eppwassooogood&hewassoooogoodlooking!JustthoughtI'dshare...</span>
How did we end up in an episode of "Saved By The Bell?" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

[MarchHatter]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 13 2003, 04:18 PM
I think Natalie is still hotter. Knightley just has bigger boobs.
erm, that makes a lot of diffrence. Have you ever seen boobs not in a magazine mann?

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by MarchHatter+Jul 13 2003, 10:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarchHatter @ Jul 13 2003, 10:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jul 13 2003, 04:18 PM
I think Natalie is still hotter. Knightley just has bigger boobs.
erm, that makes a lot of diffrence. Have you ever seen boobs not in a magazine mann? [/b][/quote]
Let's ease up on the throttle there MH. You're walking that thin line with a friend of mine. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

[MarchHatter]

whatever. would you in the future like a winking smiley indicating jest?

[JediKeri.]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 12 2003, 10:57 AM
um, Javen, do you go by an alias named Justin?


Ooopos, I did it again! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by MarchHatter+Jul 14 2003, 05:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarchHatter @ Jul 14 2003, 05:10 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jul 13 2003, 04:18 PM
I think Natalie is still hotter. Knightley just has bigger boobs.
erm, that makes a lot of diffrence. Have you ever seen boobs not in a magazine mann? [/b][/quote]
I have a theory that people who say such things, haven't gotten some in a while.

[Brian]

Can you believe Pirates topped the Box Office this week, with League taking second? I guess the chicks were going out to see Depp and Bloom.

Even the movie critic from The Today Show, Gene Shallot (sp?) liked Pirates and doesn't like anything!

Also, I didn't realize that Knightly chick was only 18! Wasn't she in TPM? Or was it AOTC?

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 11:09 AM
Can you believe Pirates topped the Box Office this week, with League taking second? I guess the chicks were going out to see Depp and Bloom.

Even the movie critic from The Today Show, Gene Shallot (sp?) liked Pirates and doesn't like anything!

Also, I didn't realize that Knightly chick was only 18! Wasn't she in TPM? Or was it AOTC?
TPM... a handmaiden...

[Mann]

She's also 20.

[Brian]

Originally posted by kopernikuz+Jul 14 2003, 12:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kopernikuz @ Jul 14 2003, 12:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 11:09 AM
Can you believe Pirates topped the Box Office this week, with League taking second? I guess the chicks were going out to see Depp and Bloom.

Even the movie critic from The Today Show, Gene Shallot (sp?) liked Pirates and doesn't like anything!

Also, I didn't realize that Knightly chick was only 18! Wasn't she in TPM? Or was it AOTC?
TPM... a handmaiden... [/b][/quote]
That means she was like 12?! Since she's 18 now, or did the news show I was watching get it wrong?

I'm assuming they shot Ep1 in 1997, post-production in 1998, and the release in 1999.

[Brian]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 14 2003, 12:25 PM
She's also 20.
Oh, so she was 14. I guess that's cool since Amidala was supposed to be 14 (and Portman looked 14) in TPM.

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah she's only 18.

This movie was decent, nothing special...

[Vibroblade]

18=legal


I'm a dirty old man.....

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by kopernikuz+Jul 14 2003, 09:21 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kopernikuz @ Jul 14 2003, 09:21 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-O-B-GATES@Jul 14 2003, 11:09 AM

Also, I didn't realize that Knightly chick was only 18! Wasn't she in TPM? Or was it AOTC?
TPM... a handmaiden... [/b][/quote]
She wasn't just a handmaiden. She was Padme's decoy.

[Mann]

Originally posted by TK-007@Jul 14 2003, 05:05 PM
Yeah she's only 18.

This movie was decent, nothing special...
shes 20, she was born in March 1983

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>She wasn't just a handmaiden. She was Padme's decoy. [/b][/quote]

Where the heck was she in aotC?

Too bad she's too big a star now to be in Episode III.

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 14 2003, 11:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>She wasn't just a handmaiden. She was Padme's decoy.

Where the heck was she in aotC?

Too bad she's too big a star now to be in Episode III. [/b][/quote]
I'm pretty sure she was just in TPM.

[Mann]

well, I know that, but it was more of a "Why?" question. She's so hot!

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by Mann@Jul 14 2003, 12:38 PM
well, I know that, but it was more of a "Why?" question. She's so hot!
She was no longer the queen so there was no longer a need for a queen decoy.

She is a hottie though. That is for certain. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>She was no longer the queen so there was no longer a need for a queen decoy. [/b][/quote]

No matter, Padme has decoys for all her jobs (Queen, senator, Jar Jar leash holder...)

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by DblDwn+Jul 14 2003, 02:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DblDwn @ Jul 14 2003, 02:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jul 14 2003, 12:38 PM
well, I know that, but it was more of a "Why?" question. She's so hot!
She was no longer the queen so there was no longer a need for a queen decoy.

She is a hottie though. That is for certain. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif [/b][/quote]
Well, that's not right, because Corde was functioning as a "Senator" decoy at the beginning. She's not queen, but she's still using body doubles...

... everyone in the theater jumped sure that Padme had been blown up at the beginning of AOTC until she stepped out of the fighter. She's still using them... guess not all of them are still in her employ though...

[Mann]

they all go off a director movies (Sofia Coppola) or become international star (Knightley).

[nerfer]

<span style="color:c1007e"><span style="font-family:comic sans ms">LOVED IT! And all those British accents made me feel right at home! </span></span>

[Javen]

I just read at comingsoon.net there will be a sequel.

[MarchHatter]

God No. I see no way how.

[Javen]

Me either. They should just leave it alone.

[Justin]

I suppose there could be a sequel if it told a good story.

My opinion of sequels is that they should only be made if someone has an idea for a sequel and then sets out to write it, not setting out to write a sequel because the first film made money and then searching for story ideas.

It's kind of the way James Cameron has done sequels, like Aliens, when he had an idea for a story that would make a good sequel.

[DblDwn]

I agree.

Sequels done just the sake of doing them and making money because the originals were successful is a waste of good production money that could be going towards making good movies great and great movies classics.

Why does Dumb and Dumberer come to mind?

[Mann]

Originally posted by MarchHatter@Jul 17 2003, 02:15 AM
God No. I see no way how.
Well seeing as there still are Pirates in the caribbean...why not?

[Mann]

Originally posted by DblDwn@Jul 17 2003, 04:14 PM
I agree.

Sequels done just the sake of doing them and making money because the originals were successful is a waste of good production money that could be going towards making good movies great and great movies classics.

Why does Dumb and Dumberer come to mind?
well, considering that is a prequel (is it just me, or do prequels suck? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif )

I made an analogy: Johney Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow is to Harrison Ford's Captain Han Solo

[spaceman2386]

Well i just saw this movie this weekend and it was one of the best i've seen all summer. it has a good story and great acting.

[STar war spUNK]

the movie was good, orlando bloom was hot... johnny depp was good as jack sparrow... uh CAPTAIN jack sparrow... but the movie ran pretty long and got kinda annoying at the end. oh well. i'll pay to see it again... on dvd that is.

[Darth Badly]

Pirates opened in the UK today - I saw a preview last night and it was great fun.

If only more summer block busters were like this.

Johnney D was very funny - and the story was a real 'page turner' in the traditional sense.

Good entertainment.

[Brian]

Finally saw it. Really good flick. And I remember some of you talking about Jack Sparrow being a bit ... fey. I got no indication of that. All those women slapping him...

[Leia]

No he wasn't gay style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif I'm not sure if the person who said that was joking...

[Agent Sith]

this movie is sooooo overrated and i hate that its gonna be made into a trilogy. the only reason it was popular is cause of the name of the movie. if it was called something else, no one would go see it cause pirate movies never do well

[Phil Tinajero]

^Do you ever have anything positive to say? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 28 2004, 05:11 AM
this movie is sooooo overrated and i hate that its gonna be made into a trilogy. the only reason it was popular is cause of the name of the movie. if it was called something else, no one would go see it cause pirate movies never do well
hmmm, you don't think that Johnny depp had anything to do with the success do you? I mean disney movies based on rides...coughHauntedMansioncough.

[Marbleman]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 28 2004, 02:00 AM
coughHauntedMansioncough
gaspCountryBearsgasp style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

Anyway, Depp's performance in POTC was delightful, and I never use that word. I'm really itching to see Secret Window. I guess I'm just a mindless consumer. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>this movie is sooooo overrated and i hate that its gonna be made into a trilogy. the only reason it was popular is cause of the name of the movie. if it was called something else, no one would go see it cause pirate movies never do well [/b][/quote]
Or maybe the movie had some merit. Maybe people should go to movies and not expect to be enlightened. Maybe some movies are geared to straightforward entertainment, not mind bending.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann+Jan 28 2004, 02:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jan 28 2004, 02:00 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Sith@Jan 28 2004, 05:11 AM
this movie is sooooo overrated and i hate that its gonna be made into a trilogy. the only reason it was popular is cause of the name of the movie. if it was called something else, no one would go see it cause pirate movies never do well
hmmm, you don't think that Johnny depp had anything to do with the success do you? I mean disney movies based on rides...coughHauntedMansioncough. [/b][/quote]
can someone please tell me what about his acting in that movie made it so great? he seemed so lame and dorky to be a pirate. flynn must be rolling over in his grave!

and even if Depp may have led people into the theaters, people went cause of the name and do you remember Cutthroat Island back in the mid-90s with Gina Davis. yea, she was a big actress back then and that didnt bring people to see the movie.

its pretty much a fact that the majority of the crowd who went to see it was due to its reference to the Disney ride

[Master Cephus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>its pretty much a fact that the majority of the crowd who went to see it was due to its reference to the Disney ride [/b][/quote]


Sorry chief but I am going to have to call you on this one. Mann and Marbleman gave you rides that was turned into a movie that flopped so I want to see some of the things that make this 'fact'...

You then gave a movie that had was a pirate movie that had a big star at the time and it flopped...

So what are you trying to say?

The movie had a good plot for what it was supposed to be... had great acting and I hate to say it but the anti-US Depp made the movie and people came to see him...

[cj790]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 28 2004, 04:10 PM


its pretty much a fact that the majority of the crowd who went to see it was due to its reference to the Disney ride
Gotta say that I saw the movie twice, loved it, and now own it on dvd, and I have never been to DisneyWorld/Land/Euro/any other thing they want; never been on the ride; never contemplated seeing a film based on a ride; didn't go to see this film because it was associated with the Disney corp.; didn't go because I knew people who went on the ride and liked it so thought the film would be good etc. etc...

I went to see the film because I like Johnny Depp; I enjoy the occasional silly blockbuster; and I was bored one evening.
If anything, I was being severely put off by the ties to a silly ride on the other side of the world - so I didn't see it until it had been out for a few weeks and was already a big hit.

Come on - how much of a percentage who saw this film have been on the ride?
You're probably struggling with 10%.
How many because of the Disney ties?
Well seeing as Disney didn't put their label on it, probably less than that.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Master Cephus@Jan 28 2004, 12:13 PM
Sorry chief but I am going to have to call you on this one. Mann and Marbleman gave you rides that was turned into a movie that flopped so I want to see some of the things that make this 'fact'...

You then gave a movie that had was a pirate movie that had a big star at the time and it flopped...

So what are you trying to say?

The movie had a good plot for what it was supposed to be... had great acting and I hate to say it but the anti-US Depp made the movie and people came to see him...
next time read what i write. Cause i did give another pirate movie that flopped and i was trying to show they a pirate movie without a big name behind it doesnt stand a chance.

and YES those two are other Disney attactions but Country Bears isnt as big as Pirates or Haunted House. and HH came after Pirates and was hyping itself up too much to have similar success. oh, and the fact that Eddie Murphy has made about 20 bad movies in the last 18 months doesnt help either.

also, i just hate how this movie HAS to have a trilogy. i hope they bomb

[Mann]

First off, the fact that Cuthroat failed is because it wasn't campaigned for and went WAAAAY overbudget. Yes, Pirate movies can do bad, we know this. "Flynn rolling in his grave" was also a quote from some review, so don't try to be witty, unless you are the reviewer.

but reasons why pirates succeeded:

SUMMER MOVIE

Johnny Depp- good performance

Johnny Depp + Orlando Bloom= Teenage girld (see Titanic)

Keira Knightly= Teenage Boys

But come this movie didn't fail, so we can ge over it! The trilogy wont fail.

[flo fett]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 28 2004, 04:10 PM

can someone please tell me what about his acting in that movie made it so great? he seemed so lame and dorky to be a pirate. flynn must be rolling over in his grave!


Oh..Oh don't make me beat choo boy! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Saranac]

oooo feel free to beat me anytime style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[flo fett]

*sigh*

[Justin]

I went to see it because it looked like a cool movie, and I enjoyed it tremendously. It was probably the most fun I've had in a movie theater in a long time.

Almost everyone I talk to said they really liked it, even though there are a few who didn't, so the idea that it is "overrated" is silly. If people were all saying it was great art, then yeah maybe, but people only enjoy it for what it is and what it is meant to be: a fun time at the movies.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 28 2004, 05:34 PM
"Flynn rolling in his grave" was also a quote from some review, so don't try to be witty, unless you are the reviewer.
are you serious!!!?!? wow, i only read 2 or so reviews on this movie during the summer and that wasnt in one... huh, maybe i should be a movie critic.

but dont you hate how this movie HAS to be made into a trilogy and that every movie today needs a sequel only to make the original terrible

[Darth Vegas]

Me Personnaly, I didn't enjoy the film at all in theaters (bad seats, bad day, plus a flick that I thought was kinda boring), but I watched it again on dvd and I thought it was pretty good. Johnny Depp was great, Geoffery Rush was good, Keira Knightley was hot, the fact that they built actual full-size ships is just cool.

It's not a really great film though by a long shot, it was fun, but it's nothing I would watch over and over again.

I'll be seeing the sequel, hopefully it'll be an improvement.

[Justin]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 28 2004, 11:14 PM
but dont you hate how this movie HAS to be made into a trilogy and that every movie today needs a sequel only to make the original terrible
No, I'm looking forward to them.

[Mann]

Why they make sequels:

movie does well, people enjoy it alot. Not every movie gets made into a sequel. I don't think Battlefield Earth will be made into a sequel. You only here about all the sequels because the movies were good or well liked.

[JediJaina]

They are still making a Hulk sequel.

Is anyone in shock over Johnny Depp getting an Oscar nod for his role in this? He's overdue for nod, but for this I was surprised.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 28 2004, 06:18 PM
Why they make sequels:

movie does well, people enjoy it alot. Not every movie gets made into a sequel. I don't think Battlefield Earth will be made into a sequel. You only here about all the sequels because the movies were good or well liked.
yea i think you wrong. almost every movie today gets made into a sequel. the list is way tooo long for this website to handle. haha. and even though Battlefield Earth did horrible, i did hear that it will get a sequel because of Scientology and its large funding.

yea and Hulk should never get a sequel. and as for Depp getting a nod, its called the Oscars are trying to be hip and cool and do whats popular. he should have gotten an Oscar for his other movies

[Mann]

battleield Earth wont get a sequel, even if Travolta bankrolls it himself. the Distributors know it will fail. do you think they will do another J.Lo Ben Affleck movie? No Gigli wont have a sequel.

Most movies don't have sequels Sith, admit it, you are wrong. 250 films come out on average a year in the US, a very small fraction have the success to become a sequel.

[Leia]

Originally posted by JediJaina@Jan 28 2004, 08:24 PM
Is anyone in shock over Johnny Depp getting an Oscar nod for his role in this? He's overdue for nod, but for this I was surprised.
I was hoping he'd get nominated style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Mann]

Before I forget, Johnny Depp got a nod because:

1) his movie was the 3rd highest grossing film of the year

2) His film was the suprise Hit of the year

3) He's been waaaay overdue

4) the critics loved him the film

5) He gave the daring performance of the nominees. ou might not see it SIth, but whathe did was go completely against the flynn character and make the character his own, something all actors should look into. Its why Eddie Murphy was cast in the Haunted Mansion, which still wasn't very good.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 28 2004, 09:56 PM
battleield Earth wont get a sequel, even if Travolta bankrolls it himself. the Distributors know it will fail. do you think they will do another J.Lo Ben Affleck movie? No Gigli wont have a sequel.

Most movies don't have sequels Sith, admit it, you are wrong. 250 films come out on average a year in the US, a very small fraction have the success to become a sequel.
god, you just hate me, dont you? get over it and move on pal. more and more movies are getting sequels in todays market. and wow you are able to count that about 250 movies come up and not everyone one does well or has alot of money or support for a sequel. and yes they are too thinking about doing a battlefield earth sequel. but its only being written. and do your research...J Lo and Ben do have another movie together, its called Jersey Girl. yea shes not a huge character but still. producers for it wont even let those two on an ad or poster for that movie so it doesnt bomb like gigli

can someone shut this guy up and support me on the over-abundance of sequels

[Mann]

yeah Jersey Girl was bankrolled before Gigli became a disaster. Before Ben Affleck had the worst year of his life.

You Sith said "most movies get made into sequels" well its not true. The big budget ones do, not the smaller ones.

And yeah they WERE thinking of a Battlefield earth sequel, but they abandoned it after it was called by the New York times "quite possibly the worst movie of the 20th century"

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 29 2004, 12:28 AM
You Sith said "most movies get made into sequels" well its not true. The big budget ones do, not the smaller ones.

agree........but arent you getting sick of the same old ideas coming out? i havent seen an original movie idea in a LONG LONG TIME!

[Justin]

lol

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith+Jan 29 2004, 05:32 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Agent Sith @ Jan 29 2004, 05:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jan 29 2004, 12:28 AM
You Sith said "most movies get made into sequels" well its not true. The big budget ones do, not the smaller ones.

agree........but arent you getting sick of the same old ideas coming out? i havent seen an original movie idea in a LONG LONG TIME! [/b][/quote]
Actually go watch a charlie Kaufman movie. They are full of them.

[Leia]

It's kinda hard to have original ideas when everything's been done already

[cj790]

I like how you've neatly side-stepped away from the glaring generalisation that 'anyone who has seen the movie saw it beacause it was a Disney ride'...

[goodwije]

I do not believe that most people saw it because of the Disney ride, but i am sure that some people saw because Disney was behind it. Disney is a big name and has a reputation for making good family movies. So i am sure it didn't hurt. What does it matter why someone saw a movie, it seems to me people go to see movies for a lot of reasons. People, from what i have heard, really enjoyed this movie. It was fun, and action filled, and something different. I mean yeah it was a pirate movie, but the characters where shown different than they have been in the past. Flynn would have loved this movie, IMO.

As for making sequels, if they are confident that they can write good stories i do not see why they shouldn't.

[Javen]

I've never seen the Disney ride, and in fact have never been to Disney.

[cj790]

Originally posted by Javen@Jan 29 2004, 03:45 PM
I've never seen the Disney ride, and in fact have never been to Disney.
Yup - I think it's quite egocentric to beilieve that the worldwide sucess of a hollywood blockbuster that didn't carry the name 'Disney' was attributed solely to one rollercoaster in an American theme park.

[JediJaina]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 28 2004, 09:59 PM
Before I forget, Johnny Depp got a nod because:

1) his movie was the 3rd highest grossing film of the year

2) His film was the suprise Hit of the year

3) He's been waaaay overdue

4) the critics loved him the film

5) He gave the daring performance of the nominees. ou might not see it SIth, but whathe did was go completely against the flynn character and make the character his own, something all actors should look into. Its why Eddie Murphy was cast in the Haunted Mansion, which still wasn't very good.
I disagree on 1 and 2. Success of a movie does not have anything to do with the nomination. Look at the other nominees in this particular category of Best Actor. If this were the case then LOTR would have had someone in one of the acting categories.

I agree with 3,4, and 5. He's long overdue.

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by cj790@Jan 29 2004, 09:52 AM
I like how you've neatly side-stepped away from the glaring generalisation that 'anyone who has seen the movie saw it beacause it was a Disney ride'...
no i havent. im waiting for others in this forum to toughen up and come out and say that one of the biggest reasons this movie did this well was its relationship to Disney. I bet if CutThroat Island was called Pirates of the Caribbean, it would have done better. You HAVE to agree on that!`

[Mann]

Just like amovie that has Star Wars at the beginning of its title does well. You think a movie just called Attack of the clones would do well?

[Agent Sith]

Originally posted by Mann@Jan 29 2004, 01:08 PM
Just like amovie that has Star Wars at the beginning of its title does well. You think a movie just called Attack of the clones would do well?
i agree and i know what your saying. but thats different. thats a sequel.

and as for Depp being overdue, overdue from WHAT! most of his movies arent that popular or wonderful

[Agent Sith]

basically my whole agrument on this movie is I dont get why everyone has such a hardon for this movie. extremely overrated

[Mann]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 29 2004, 06:20 PM
basically my whole agrument on this movie is I dont get why everyone has such a hardon for this movie. extremely overrated
I think its because everyone expected it to be bad (I mean a movie based on a ride...?) but it ended up making everyone have a good time who saw it. One of my friends came back saying it was the best movie he had seen in a long time. And its true, the characters were colorful, the story flowed, and it broke through with marvelous performances (on paper, Jack Sparrow is waaaaay different).

[Brian]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 29 2004, 02:20 PM
basically my whole agrument on this movie is I dont get why everyone has such a hardon for this movie. extremely overrated
Martini...err...Agent Sith, you are at least in the minority on this site. Seems most folks in here liked the flick - including myself. You're fighting a losing battle. Hehe. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Leia]

Everybody liked it because it was enjoyable! Nobody's saying it's best picture type material, but it was fun and done well! And I didn't think it was going to be bad, I could tell from the previews it would be a great movie. It was just a really neat movie to go see. Like Mask of Zorro type movie

[Leia]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 29 2004, 01:05 PM
im waiting for others in this forum to toughen up and come out and say that one of the biggest reasons this movie did this well was its relationship to Disney. I bet if CutThroat Island was called Pirates of the Caribbean, it would have done better. You HAVE to agree on that!`
I certainly don't agree with that. I definitely didn't go see this movie because of its Disney label. I've been kind of annoyed with Disney for the past few years and I didn't go see Hercules, Atlantis or Treasure Planet in the theaters. I only saw Hercules because they were playing in a classroom once in highschool and I didn't like it. Somebody gave us Atlantis for a gift and I was half-listening to it while doing something else on the computer and it sounded like an incredibly stupid movie. And I have no plans to see Treasure Planet style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif I go see movies I think will be good and I don't go see ones that I think won't be unless there's some reason for me to go... I would have gone to Pirates no matter what its label.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Leia@Jan 30 2004, 12:30 AM
Like Mask of Zorro type movie
So many comparisons to that movie have been made to Pirates. however, I must say that Zorro was a better movie overall. I love both though!

and yeah Leia, Disney movies don't always have an audience they crave for. Look at the recent Disney shtick! Brother Bear was aggravting. Atlantis was a staurday morning cartoon made 90 minutes long. Most of thse movies underperfromed. The audience can notice what they like an don't like. Sure a bad movie might get alot, but that's like th efirst weekend. Once its been seen, they don't go back. so its why pirates had legs at the BO, it was well liked!

[Leia]

I wanted to go back and see Pirates, but I never got the chance style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

Oh yeah, Brother Bear was another one of those I had no desire to see. And Lilo and Stitch too

[Marbleman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Martini...err...Agent Sith, you are at least in the minority on this site. Seems most folks in here liked the flick - including myself. You're fighting a losing battle. Hehe. [/b][/quote]

I think that's more of his point though. See - he's an independent thinker. Hats off to you, Agent Sith, you win. I'm off to go weep on my shrine to conformity.

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crying.gif

[Brian]

Depp won the SAG award for best actor in a movie. He might get the Oscar afterall. We'll see next Sunday.

http://www.sag.org/

[Blizzard]

He DID win!!!! Awesome!

(Oops, I told JMG he didn't)

I finally bought the DVD this weekend. I was wearing out my dad's borrowed copy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Agent Sith@Jan 29 2004, 07:20 PM
basically my whole agrument on this movie is I dont get why everyone has such a hardon for this movie. extremely overrated
People love it because it was great great fun.

[Mann]

JOhnny Wins! This is an achievment in its own. He deserves it. he took a HUGE risk with the movie and saved it.

[bodegage]

Alright! I sure hope Johnny Depp takes the Oscar!

[Keymaster]

i doubt the Academy cares about the twenty dozen other crap award shows out there and what their opinions are.

just wait till Sunday

[Mann]

Originally posted by Keymaster@Feb 24 2004, 01:31 AM
i doubt the Academy cares about the twenty dozen other crap award shows out there and what their opinions are.

just wait till Sunday
yeah, but SAG isn't a crap award...

[Brian]

You know what, Ron Jeremy is part of SAG! I'm not sure how much stock one should be putting in this award afterall... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Seanakin]

Bump.

[JKRich]

This movie like its lead actor are highly overrated(imo).I cant believe it did so well. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by JKRich@May 28 2004, 06:41 PM
This movie like its lead actor are highly overrated(imo).I cant believe it did so well. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
Except that Johnny Depp didn't play it for he critics, but it ended up working very well. I honestly think his performance saved this movie.

[Justin]

Whatever, the movie was awesome, and even if someone else played Depp's part it still would have been a cool movie and still would have been successful, just not as much.

[goodwije]

well i did hear a couple of people say if Depp wasnt in it they wouldnt have gone to see it. Peronally i loved it.. i may even watch it today style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Rogue_0009]

<span style="color:red">I still laugh at "Why is the rum gone!?!?!?". And also were playing a few tunes from the soundtrack in band so during one rehersal of it, all the trombone players and myself wore pirate hats, it was a weird image.</span>

[James T. Skywalker]

Originally posted by Rogue_0009@May 29 2004, 01:07 PM
<span style="color:red">I still laugh at "Why is the rum gone!?!?!?". And also were playing a few tunes from the soundtrack in band so during one rehersal of it, all the trombone players and myself wore pirate hats, it was a weird image.</span>
You in a pirate hat is just a scary image, Rogue. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Me personally, I liked the movie. The whole running 'parlay' joke was pretty good, especially with the "It was the French" line thrown in to give it a little social satire (and historical context, of course).

~JTS

[Leia]

It's 'parler' *sniff* style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Seanakin]

Wait, isn't it "Parley?" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif

[James T. Skywalker]

Eh whatever, I took Spanish in high school, my sister takes French. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

~JTS

[Mann]

Espanol es El Diablo!

Johnny Depp es unos dios!

[JKRich]

I gave this movie a chance because i like Bloom and Knightley.I still found it to be a terrible movie.I have yet to (meet) anyone who liked this movie.I dont judge this movie based on a bias of Depp's personal life.I just thought it was awful. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[goodwije]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I have yet to (meet) anyone who liked this movie[/b][/quote]

than you havent looked very hard.

[Rogue_0009]

Originally posted by Seanakin@May 30 2004, 03:28 PM
Wait, isn't it "Parley?" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scratchchin.gif
<span style="color:red">It's pronounced parley bit's spelled parler [cuz it's french], and there's a cool deleted scene where goes on abut the French, inventors of mayonaise [backround pirate:I like mayonaise]. Y'see the thing about the french is there all horribly obsseded with raisins, humiliated grapes really, think about it. Another thing about the french is that they've all got lovely singing voices, eunuchs all of 'em. [pirate one: that's not right. pirate 2:I used to date a eunuch.].</span>

[Tane Kyja]

great movie...I thougth it was really good...funny and it had some action style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Jediwan]

Wicked movie.

[DarthAnakin]

Originally posted by goodwije@May 29 2004, 08:35 AM
well i did hear a couple of people say if Depp wasnt in it they wouldnt have gone to see it. Peronally i loved it.. i may even watch it today style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Yeah it rocked. I'm watching it now....again! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Justin]

Originally posted by JKRich@May 31 2004, 12:43 AM
I gave this movie a chance because i like Bloom and Knightley.I still found it to be a terrible movie.I have yet to (meet) anyone who liked this movie.I dont judge this movie based on a bias of Depp's personal life.I just thought it was awful. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
You're in the very VERY small minority there.

[Seanakin]

Hey, I had had a question regarding the story, though I've only now really remembered to ask it:

Was William Turner cursed or not when he was tossed overboard? If the cursed pirates could walk around under water like nothing was wrong, then what's to have kept the elder Turner from drowning, aside from his son lifting the curse eight or nine years later?

In fact, now that I'm thinking about it some more, the fact that they needed Turner's blood meant he was in on the curse too. At least according to all else that was said of the curse.

[Marbleman]

My thought was that it only affected individuals that took the gold. The whole blood thing I don't know about, hm.

[Seanakin]

Well, it was my understanding that the blood of everyone who took but one piece was needed to lift the curse. And since they needed Turner's blood to lift the curse, I can only surmise that Turner was among those who removed the gold from the chest. Although why he would doom himself to the curse along with everyone else by sending a piece to his son, I'm not sure.

[Justin]

What's funny when you think about it is that Will Turner's father was still alive because of the curse making the pirates undead, but when they lifted the curse he would have turned back to normal and drowned.

So the guy killed his dad, basically.

[JKRich]

Originally posted by Justin+May 31 2004, 03:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Justin @ May 31 2004, 03:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-JKRich@May 31 2004, 12:43 AM
I gave this movie a chance because i like Bloom and Knightley.I still found it to be a terrible movie.I have yet to (meet) anyone who liked this movie.I dont judge this movie based on a bias of Depp's personal life.I just thought it was awful. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
You're in the very VERY small minority there. [/b][/quote]
Only on This board. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Mann]

Originally posted by JKRich+Jun 5 2004, 02:59 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JKRich @ Jun 5 2004, 02:59 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Justin@May 31 2004, 03:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-JKRich@May 31 2004, 12:43 AM
I gave this movie a chance because i like Bloom and Knightley.I still found it to be a terrible movie.I have yet to (meet) anyone who liked this movie.I dont judge this movie based on a bias of Depp's personal life.I just thought it was awful. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
You're in the very VERY small minority there.
Only on This board. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif [/b][/quote]
And you know the people who voted it in the People's Choice Awards as the Best movie...

[Mann]

Originally posted by Justin@Jun 5 2004, 02:19 AM
What's funny when you think about it is that Will Turner's father was still alive because of the curse making the pirates undead, but when they lifted the curse he would have turned back to normal and drowned.

So the guy killed his dad, basically.
10 years underwater, something's gonna eat you.

[Seanakin]

Yeah, I'm thinking he had more than enough time to come free of his ponderous baggage and get back to the surface.

Wouldn't be surprised if this gets worked into the sequel.

[Justin]

That would be pretty cool. Hopefully Keira Knightley will have a nude scene. Muahaha.

[goodwije]

sean i agree i think we will see Boot Strap in the sequel too. I always thought that yeah he was cursed like the rest, anyone who stole a peaice from the chest was cursed. Only Boot strap sent his to his son before realizing how bad the curse was... didnt they say something like that?

[Seanakin]

From what I gathered, Bootstrap sent off a piece to England to spite Barbossa and his crew for the mutiny of Cpt. Sparrow, for which Barbossa sent Bootstrap to the depths. Unfortunately for them, he did so BEFORE learning that they needed his blood to lift the curse altogether. It may also have been before they learned that sinking underwater would not affect them as they could not die, period. So unless a shark came along and decided to chow down, I'm thinking the time spent underwater would've been more than enough to have deteriorated whatever had bound the elder Turner to that cannon. (Presumably leather, given that the guy said Barbossa "strapped a cannon to Bootstrap's bootstraps.")

And, like I said, if his blood was needed, then he must also have been cursed. Merely posessing a piece would not curse him, as was demonstrated by both his son and Elizabeth, he had to have removed it from the stone chest. And...nowhere in the movie did anyone in any position to know (which excludes the younger Turner) actually SAY that Bootstrap was dead.

I dunno, the more I think about this probable plot hole, the more I realize...I need to get myself a girl, mate. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

[Blizzard]

Watching it now.

I bet Bootstrap comes back in the sequel.

[Rogue_0009]

<span style="color:red">I don't think so, because y'see even if he managed to survive all those years at the bottom of the ocean, once the curse was broken he'd be human again, which has a tendency to make one vulnerable to drowning</span>

[Seanakin]

Correct, but only if he were still under water when his son lifted the curse.

But that would've been a stretch of about eight or nine years.

[Mann]

Something struck me in the first film that they needed Bootstrap's blood for the curse to be lifted, and if that were the case, then if Bootstrap had no son the curse could not be lifted at all since he can't bleed. But then again I think Bootstrap was spared from the curse. Maybe he was the exception so when the launched him into the ocean, he actually did die.

[Seanakin]

I thought that too, except that Barbossa said that the way to lift the curse was to return all 882 gold pieces and "the blood repaid," which I infer to mean the blood of all who took at least one piece from the stone chest.

If Turner hadn't taken a piece from the chest, he wouldn't have been cursed, and therefore his blood wouldn't have been so necessary.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Seanakin@Jun 7 2004, 02:38 AM
I thought that too, except that Barbossa said that the way to lift the curse was to return all 882 gold pieces and "the blood repaid," which I infer to mean the blood of all who took at least one piece from the stone chest.

If Turner hadn't taken a piece from the chest, he wouldn't have been cursed, and therefore his blood wouldn't have been so necessary.
So does that mean all the other pirates Bled for the Gold, cause I don't recall them ever bleeding...

[Seanakin]

Again, I'm guessing they already did beforehand.

Also, just because they were cursed didn't mean they didn't bleed. Witness the knife pulled out of Barbossa's chest (after an attack attempt that closely resembled one from Raiders of the Lost Ark), it was dripping red. He just didn't die from it.

[Javen]

Also Barbossa shot one one them testing to see if it worked and a hole appeared with blood.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Seanakin@Jun 7 2004, 02:31 PM
Again, I'm guessing they already did beforehand.

Also, just because they were cursed didn't mean they didn't bleed. Witness the knife pulled out of Barbossa's chest (after an attack attempt that closely resembled one from Raiders of the Lost Ark), it was dripping red. He just didn't die from it.
I thogth they didn't bleed because when Barbossa gets shot, he is shocked when it actually starts pooring out blood.

[Greedo Boy]

He's shocked because he can actually feel the pain of having been shot now. I think we'd all look pretty shocked if we got shot in the chest and the first thing you feel in years is your life slipping away...

[Mann]

Originally posted by Greedo Boy@Jun 7 2004, 11:27 PM
He's shocked because he can actually feel the pain of having been shot now. I think we'd all look pretty shocked if we got shot in the chest and the first thing you feel in years is your life slipping away...
and how does he realize it? the blood starts to pour out of him. I don't think they can bleed at all, since they are not blood anyway being skeletons and all.

"The Moonlight shows us for what we really are"

[DarthAnakin]

^ He was shocked because the curse was lifted and he just got shot.

[JKRich]

Originally posted by Justin@Jun 5 2004, 01:09 AM
That would be pretty cool. Hopefully Keira Knightley will have a nude scene. Muahaha.
Then i'd watch with joy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 7 2004, 06:30 PM
and how does he realize it? the blood starts to pour out of him. I don't think they can bleed at all, since they are not blood anyway being skeletons and all.

"The Moonlight shows us for what we really are"
He. just. got. shot... Normally, they wouldn't feel it because of the curse. The curse was gone, and he felt himself get shot in the chest. How else would he realize it??

[Mann]

He shot another pirate when he thoght the curse was lifted and he didn't bleed like Barbossa did.

[Leia]

Originally posted by Mann+Jun 7 2004, 06:30 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mann @ Jun 7 2004, 06:30 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Greedo Boy@Jun 7 2004, 11:27 PM
He's shocked because he can actually feel the pain of having been shot now. I think we'd all look pretty shocked if we got shot in the chest and the first thing you feel in years is your life slipping away...
and how does he realize it? the blood starts to pour out of him. I don't think they can bleed at all, since they are not blood anyway being skeletons and all.

"The Moonlight shows us for what we really are" [/b][/quote]
No, I distinctly remember the knife being bloody after Elizabeth sticks Barbosa with it. He licks some of it off the blade, why would he lick the blade if it was just clean? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif There shouldn't have been any blood when you think about it, but there was, so... lol. I guess something the film makers just didn't think through well enough *shrug*

[Greedo Boy]

Originally posted by Mann@Jun 7 2004, 11:48 PM
He shot another pirate when he thoght the curse was lifted and he didn't bleed like Barbossa did.
I never said bleeding had anything to do with the curse. You must be confused as to who you're talking to.

[goodwije]

i thought it was implied that the other pirates had already returned their medallions and paid their little bit of blood.

[Mann]

Originally posted by Greedo Boy+Jun 8 2004, 10:32 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greedo Boy @ Jun 8 2004, 10:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mann@Jun 7 2004, 11:48 PM
He shot another pirate when he thoght the curse was lifted and he didn't bleed like Barbossa did.
I never said bleeding had anything to do with the curse. You must be confused as to who you're talking to. [/b][/quote]
I think you must be confused on the actual issue that is at hand. We are talking about the Pirate's ability to bleed.

Henceforth, I thin Leia has it right, the filmmakers just didn't think it through.

[Virus]

I'm not a big fan of this movie. I want a darker pirate movie that is R. and who wanted to see Johnny Depp with eye makeup on anyway?!?!

BIG PLOT HOLE.........how come Jack Sparrow never realized he was a ghost before? Like he never was in the moonlight before the end of the movie. I think not

[Leia]

oh dear, you so totally missed the point of the end of the movie!! At the end, Jack Sparrow picks up a handful of coins and as he says "Every, last, one of them" he drops 3 coins in with the cadence of his speaking. What the audience is supposed to see (and you missed) but what Barbosa doesn't see, is that Sparrow does a bit of slight of hand and pockets the fourth coin. He does this purposefully so that (I imagine) 1, while fighting, he is in no danger of dying, and 2, he controls exactly when the curse will be lifted. He couldn't have been cursed before that, because remember, Barbosa left him on the island before the crew went to steal the aztec gold.

And I liked Johnny in eyeliner style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif

[Virus]

wait wait, then why did he seem so shocked to find out he was a ghost all along? its a plot hole and a very big one. Read on IMDB website and they talk about it on their message boards