How Han Solo Came To Be

[Saranac]

The place Lucas wsa interviewing people for Star Wars was also the same place Harrison Ford was working. Primarily he worked late at night.

One night he didn't finish so he worked the next morning at the same time Lucas was casting. He was friends with Lucas from American Graffetti.

Lucas asked him to try out for the role and obviously he was the best and the rest was history.

Like most of you i agree that noone else could possibly be Han Solo.

[Meche]

This belongs in the Classic Trilogy area, moving there.

[Blizzard]

We know that, Saranac, but do you know what Ford's job was?

Shush everyone else, I am asking Saranac.

[Meche]

Darn! I know I know! ..oooh... ;)

[Obidobi]

I know I know! He was a Uuupss! SHUT SHUT Obidobi! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[RollaFett]

Dammit! I know too!

[Tovor]

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know, Mister Kotta!

[Tovor]

Shouldn't this be in General Star Wars?

[Polunis]

Originally posted by Tovor@July 19 2002 - 01:03
Shouldn't this be in General Star Wars?
No, because this refers to just before the original movie was made. I'm sure casting for the OT is appropriate for this thread.

[Vyndim]

Okay I feel dumb now because I don't know what Ford's job was. ??? And this bit of how he got the role is also new to me... I guess I'm not as big of a fanatic as I thought I was.

[Tovor]

Don't feel bad about it. *Most of us have little to no idea what any of the SW actors did before they started acting or got their big break to leave their other jobs.

But here is a different bit of vague trivia: *Remember the blue skinned bare-abdomen Twilek Jedi, seen heading down the stairs toward Obi-Wan as he passed her in the Jedi temple to talk to Yoda, and later in the arena behind Obi-Wan as Dooku told Mace and the Jedi to surrender? *What large, prominant company did she work (she was not an actress) for when she was offered the small role in the movie?

[Vyndim]

The blue Twi'lek is Aayla Secura(I think) and she was played by Amy Allen. Amy Allen worked for Industrial Light & Magic. She also worked on movies which include Jurassic Park III, A.I., and Pearl Harbor. According to the data bank that is. You'd be surprised how popular that blue Twi'lek is. Also, Amy Allen played a Twi'lek in a senate scene for the DVD version of Episode I.

[JediBendu]

No I definitely am not surprised at her popularity - she's completely gorgeous, especially in blue :hehe:
I've been trying to find her in the battle sequence but I think they just shove her in with the remaining survivors at the end.

[Blizzard]

Now what does that have to do with OT? LOL

I want to ask if you know who the purple Twi'lek in the night club in AotC was, but I can't. So I won't. ;)

[Clara]

I always heard that Ford agreed to help Lucas screen test the parts for Luke and Leia. Ford was getting frustrated, as he knew that he wasn't getting a part in the movie, and it began to show. Lucas liked this frustration, as it was exactly how Han would act, and offered Ford the part. He accepted.

[tunafishman]

I'm with Vyndim, I don't know what Ford's job was, and I'm still waiting to find out. Someone please tell me. Please Please. I'll be your friend! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Clara]

Before he was an actor, Ford was a carpenter, building sets. Thats how Lucas met him.

[DanielSkywalker]

Well, I might get in trouble for this :p, but he was a carpenter.

[DanielSkywalker]

Well, nevermind, clara beat me to it.

[tunafishman]

Cool. As promised, Clara and DanielSkywalker are now my friends. Thanks guys! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif

[Tovor]

A carpenter, yes, Clara and Daniel sure nailed that one. *Yes, a pun was intended. Not a very good pun, but one intended nonetheless. *However, while it had been said many times (not recently, but in the late 70's and early 80's) that Ford used to be a carpenter before his big break, I never heard of him being a film set builder. *However, in Starlog magazine back in '81 or '82, in regard to the Yuma set with the full size one side of Jabba's sail barge, the writer commented that Harrison on the set often observed and studied the massive wood prop, "perhaps admiring the handiwork" and contemplating if he would have done it differently.

Vyndim, thanks for the response there. *Name and company correct, although I thought of her as a ILM worker who was asked to do those small parts or she volunteered (as many ILM staffers have made their way into scenes) rather than being an actual working actress. *She sure is sweet looking. *I used to have a pic of her posing with a lit lightsaber on my desktop, looking very sexy. *Hot indeed, and not the lightsaber blade!

[Vyndim]

Oh sorry, you are correct Tovor. She was asked to do the part of Aayla Secura, she said that at the present time, acting is not something she intends to pursue actively, but if the chance arises that she'd take it. *So, she is working for ILM and was asked to do the part; shes not really a working actress.

[Saranac]

Tover is completley correct I should have added that but I was pressed for time rushing to post it.

I dont belive Ford ever built sets but he was a carpenter.

[Handothrawn]

Well actually, according to Lucas in the first re-release of the OT, just after the SE hit theatres, GL states that Harrison was fixing offices at Fox, and since he'd been an actor, GL had HF stand in to play the extra Han role during the mix-and-match auditions, and HF read the lines the best.

Just call me the insufferable nit-picking know-it-all. ;)

[Javen]

Do you you know who Luke and Leia could have been played by if they would have been cast and thank God they were not.

[Saranac]

The other people who tried out probaly never made it in any other movies.

I saw some of the casting on video and the other Lukes and Leias i didn't recognize as any people currently.

[Javen]

Richard Dryfess tried out for Han Solo and right after he tried out Lucas asked Harrison Ford to try out for it and got the part.

Christopher Walken tried out for Luke and Cindy Willimas tried out for Leia imagine if they were in the movie.

[JediBendu]

Christopher Walken would have been a great Jedi - he definitely would have bought some death sticks :skull:

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Javen@July 27 2002 - 19:46
Richard Dryfess tried out for Han Solo and right after he tried out Lucas asked Harrison Ford to try out for it and got the part.
I recall that Al Pacino was offered the Han Solo role, but turned it down.

[Saranac]

Originally posted by borgmatrix@Aug. 04 2002 - 00:50
I recall that Al Pacino was offered the Han Solo role, but turned it down.
HMMM....

Thats a new one.

You have to remember the year is 1977 so Christopher Walken would look like he did in "The Deer Hunter."

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Saranac@Aug. 07 2002 - 19:12
HMMM....

Thats a new one.
I find myself wondering whether Ford's career would have taken off if Pacino had taken the role. There's a good chance the world wouldn't have known him.

[JediBendu]

nah
He did American Graffi ti before Star Wars. He'd probably have been picked up by someone wanting to do a cheesy cowboy flick. :skull:

[Mann]

American Graffiti? Star Wars? Harrison Ford's career was made by Raiders of the Lost Ark! Star Wars just got him up to that role.

[Saranac]

"Raiders of the Lost Ark" proved that Ford wasn't a one hit wonder like Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamil.

[Bandersnatch]

How Han Solo Came To Be

Well you see one night Mr. Solo asked Mrs. Solo if she wanted to hit the sack early, then...

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[nunzio]

Fred Roos is the casting whiz who arranged for Harrison to be building an ornate entranceway when Lucas was casting for STAR WARS (jointly with Brian DePalma for CARRIE). He was the one who knew Ford was right and had star quality, but he had trouble convincing Lucas, who wanted to avoid hiring anyone from his previous hit AMERICAN GRAFFITI.

Roos also assisted Lucas in casting GRAFFITI.

By the way, the rumor has it (although Ford doesn't talk about it) that Ford and Paul LeMat were up to all kinds of shenanigans on the GRAFFITI set. They would torture Richard Dreyfuss (in one instance they hung him by his feet off the second story balcony of the motel), relieved themselves in the ice machine, and the like. Word is that he learned to be a professional on set by watching Sir Alec Guiness work.

Dreyfuss also wanted the Solo part, but Lucas wouldn't consider him because of his desire to avoid a repertoire rep. The runner-up trio for the STAR WARS leads is Christopher Walken (Solo), Teri Nunn (Leia), and Will Selzer (Luke).

[Mann]

Thank god Walken didn't get the part!

Oh, and Hamill was the one hit wonder, but Fisher had stayed around for awhile with some films like When Harry Met Sally, but she never did many lead roles. It's all about the bikini.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 10 2002 - 20:59
Oh, and Hamill was the one hit wonder
Not really. Mark's been magnificent as the voice of the Joker in the animated Batman stuff. If you haven't watched any of that and are interested in hearing him, check out the uncut Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Hamill is simply brilliant.

[Mann]

you call a voice over for a cartoon a career achievement. No one knows that is Hamil's voice, let alone care. I know he's done other voice overs for cartoons like Wing Commander, but he hasn't made any real achievments in acting. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/saber.gif

I heard he's doing a movie that was supposed to costar Rod stieger, but that was awhile ago.

[Saranac]

Doing cartoons for regular T.V. is far from acting in the largest grossing movie ever.

[Mann]

exactly Saranac!

[Saranac]

It's pretty embarrassing that he went from top to bottom.

In other words from best selling movie to day-time T.V.

[Mann]

Not even, he does like once a month voice over. Joker isn't in every episode.

Oh, and have you guys seen his post-Star Wars films? Man they are bad!

[Saranac]

Wow he must be desparate.

Did you see Mark Hamil on The Simpson's.

[Mann]

HAHA! YEs, and he was on Space Ghost once too. Oh they made fun of him!

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Saranac@Aug. 12 2002 - 19:21
Doing cartoons for regular T.V. is far from acting in the largest grossing movie ever.
If you don't like animated shows, fine, but there are a lot of people that do. *It's hardly hitting rock bottom. *Maybe it's not the same as participating in a movie, but there are many people that have been involved with cartoons and have done excellent voice work. *Some are well known, like Dana Delaney, Tim Curry, Mark Hammill, Val Kilmer, Bruce Willis, and Alec Baldwin. These people aren't desperate.

Again, Mark did excellent work as Joker in the Batman series, and other have similarly provided great voicework. *I'm a huge Batman fan, and his work there means as much to me as his role in Star Wars. *As a comic book fan, I greatly appreciate the fine work that has been done on tv by individuals like Mark or writers like Paul Dini and designers like Bruce Timm. *These guys have done great work, and I don't mean great for a cartoon. *

Please, don't belittle animated works. *On many occassions, animated shows or movies have surpassed live action ones. *"Return of the Joker" versus the 1989 "Batman" is an excellent example of this. *Being a cartoon says nothing about the quality of the work. *It's just a format, one that is capable of supporting great visuals and storytelling.

[Saranac]

Do you know what cartoons Val Kilmer, Bruce Willis, and Alec Baldwin did?

Im not saying everyone who does voice-over is desparate, Im just saying Mark Hamil is.

[Saranac]

Im sorry if I offended you.

[Mann]

borgomatrix, some of those actors you mentioned have other things in their careers such as actual acting in movies. We're saying that Mark Hamill is just not getting any good jobs, mainly cause he doesn't look like a star anymore. Those actors do. Bruce Willis can do anything he wants, Alec Baldwin can too, so we are saying that being in a Cartoon series isn't that big a deal.

Oh, but Batman 1989 is the best Batman movie ever.

[droid-desease]

most recently i have seen Mark Hamil on some
TV film that was made out of 3 separate
stries...and between each of them a guy
in a morgue was kind of doing the intro into each story
(later turned out that guy is a deadman)
and all 3 stories were horrors stories..
and mark was in one of them...he was a hausband
of some wife and had lost an eye in an accident
and then they replaced his eye (in an operation)
with some ther eye..and marks characteg
started to see strange things like hands coming out of his garden abd stuff like that and he was
not really him self and started to beat his wive and stuff liek that..and later he
found out that his new impanted eye was taken
from a dead murderer and a part of his
mind still lived in this eye and that i where all
the madnes came from..
and on the end the guy "killed" this eye
with a piece of glass and he was left with only one eye
but at least his own...

its a really ugly film...and stupid too

But that is the only place where i have seen mark hamil
ever again after ROTJ.

Carrie fisher did well even to this day...
last i have seen her in Screem 3

[Mann]

HAHA!, Carrie Fisher in Scream 3? Oh man, now i have to rent it.

OH, and I've seen her in Hannah and her Sisters, a few Tom Hanks Comedies, and she wrote Postcard form the Edge which got her a British Acadmey Award Nomination for Best adapted screenplay.

[Saranac]

Wheres Carrie Fisher in Scream 3?

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 13 2002 - 19:33
Bruce Willis can do anything he wants, Alec Baldwin can too, so we are saying that being in a Cartoon series isn't that big a deal.
I understand that Hamill's career doesn't stand up to those others. You guys are right about that. But what I disagree with is dismissing Hamill's work as Joker. I mentioned it, because it was quality work. I'm not arguing that that gives him a remarkable career. My problem is making it seem like it's nothing. Maybe the total amount of episodes he did is small in amount compared to the body of work of others, but I'm not trying to compare in number to anyone else. He did a truly remarkable voicing job for Joker. That's all I'm saying.

And no, the 1989 Batman, good as it is, doesn't quite stand up to "Mask of the Phantasm" or "Return of the Joker". The Joker of the animated Batman world was far superior to Nicholson's version. That was a result of the combination of Dini's writing, Timm's design, and Hamill's voice. Batman was also better defined in the animated series/movies.

[droid-desease]

in screem 3 carrie is some woman that works
in an old film vault..and she has the picture
of "real" carrie fisher on the wal..
in the film she is acting as a carrie fisher lookalike
and is complaining that she didn't get the part in
star wars because carrie fisher has slept with george lucas
and this one has ended up as a film lybririan or something.

Im not sure was she acting as carrie fishers sister
or just as a lookalike...but it's kind of funny seeing
carrie fisher on screen talking against her self
in the movie.

It was no mayor part. she had about 5 minutes
of screen time or less

[Mann]

Where did the batman series get its inspiration? They didn't just do that out of the blue? No, the Movie made them make the series. Batman 1989 was all about the design of the characters and Gotham. think about the set ad costume pieces in Batman, they make the movie. the way the movie is designed, it is almost as if they were in a comic book.

the cartoon series is fine, but the design of the Joker keeps changing. With every new animator, the joker looks different. The Batman animated movies aren't that great, they lack the excitment of a tim burton live action film. The Mask of the Phantasm is not that god, it drags alot.

Hamill's career has hit the rocks, let's admit it guys. Doing a cartoon series is low compared to some other things he could be doing.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 14 2002 - 15:44
Where did the batman series get its inspiration? They didn't just do that out of the blue? No, the Movie made them make the series. Batman 1989 was all about the design of the characters and Gotham. think about the set ad costume pieces in Batman, they make the movie. the way the movie is designed, it is almost as if they were in a comic book.
"Batman the animated series" had one design.
Then, later, the title was switched to The New Batman Adventures and Bruce Timm decided to go with a different visual design.

For "Return of the Joker" the two styles were combined.

I didn't have a problem with any of this, since it provided some variety. I prefered the TNBA style, because the animation superior. The designs were better overall in BTAS. ROTJ, in my opinion, perfected the look. In terms of writing, though, Joker was essentially the same.

The 1989 film might have renewed interest in Batman and come before the animated shows, but coming first has nothing to do with quality. The animated stories presented a truer version of Batman and superior writing. There was nothing incredibly exciting about "Batman" that stood out against MOTP or ROTJ. All three were good, but I would rank them as: 1.) ROTJ, 2.) MOTP, 3.) Batman. I thought "Batman" had more weakness. But I am a fan of Burton and love his dark, visual style. He excels at that.

As for Hammill, let him do what he wants without labelling it negatively. He has more talent (IMO) as a voice actor than as a "live" actor, so I have no problem with what he does. He must be happy, and he's good at it. That's all that matters.

[Saranac]

Oh yea

Now I remember that scene. I saw Scream 3 so long ago........

A.B.F.B.

[Clara]

6 words= 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back'.

[Mann]

Anyone every see Batman and Robin? that was tooo much like the animated series and look how it sucked! Batman was all about visual Style! the dark and creepy atmosphere fit Burton so well. That movie is considered the best of the entire Batman Franchise. The animated films got poor reviews and lacked any real depth with Batman himself. BTW Michael Keaton is the greatest Batman of all time. Nicholson outdoes all jokers with his voice and acting.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 15 2002 - 15:53
Anyone every see Batman and Robin? that was tooo much like the animated series and look how it sucked!
Batman and Robin did suck. You won't get any argument from me there. It's a contender for worst movie of all time. But if you've actually seen the animated series, you know it's absolutely nothing like B&R. To say it was like the animated series is a ridiculous statement to make. "Batman" is generally considered to be the best of the live movies. But ask any major Batman fan. The majority of them will tell you that the animated series was superior. If you don't believe me, got to http://forums.toonzone.net
It's a forum that's part of the World's Finest website that focusses on DC comics related stuff. There are a ton of fans there of all things Batman. I'm talking die-hard fans. Ask them. Most of them will give you the same response I'm giving you.

"Return of the Joker" got excellent reviews. Check on the internet. You'll find them. "Batman" and "Mask of the Phantasm" were similar in that they both got good and bad reviews. But even the best reviews for "Batman" don't match the reviews that "Return of the Joker" has gotten.

[Saranac]

Ill have to take your word on the animated series. Batman and Robin the movies was horrible though.

[Mann]

NO, i saw some reviews for both animated films. they weren't great and RotJ(like Return of the Jedi....scary! ) was done by nonproffessional critics who review DVDs.

Oh, Batman and Robin was terrible because it was:
a) too much like the original series (adam west)
b) George Cloony was completly miscast as Batman, Alicia Silverstone was miscast as Batgirl, Chris O'Donnell has no talent,
c) it's real sad when Arnold is the only one hamming it up.
d) The effects were too cartoony and not Tim Burton like.
e) Joel Shummacher directed it and he did terrible
f) The messed up the story of Batgirl entirely
g) Had retarded fight scenes that made me cringe
h) There were no really good villians (ie Jack Nicholson, Danny Devito, Jim Carry! )
i) you know it's bad when the stars come on TV and say how bad it was

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 16 2002 - 22:24
NO, i saw some reviews for both animated films. they weren't great and RotJ(like Return of the Jedi....scary! ) was done by nonproffessional critics who review DVDs.
"Batman" did receive negative reviews from professional reviewers, such as Roger Ebert. To imply that ROTJ wasn't great is nonsense. Have you seen the movie? Don't give me talk about nonprofessional reviewers. The movie got excellent reviews in newspapers and many reviews I've seen. And if you read them, you'll see these people are well-spoken and intelligent. They're not simply spouting off praise, but giving concrete reasons for what they say. Why are you so biased against the animated movies and episodes? Give credit where it's due. ROTJ uncut was truly excellent, and the animated-series writing has been of a very high quality.

[Mann]

I did see RotJ on T.V. and i have to say i wasn't that thrilled. Yeah, sure batman got bad reviews from people like Roger Ebert, but he did say the movie looked incredible. I seem to believe that he didn't like Mask of the Phantasm very much either. Now, when a movie goes straight to Viedo and TV there is something about it that isn't great. I mean, unless it's an HBO film, then it probably isn't that great. So, the reviews said oh it was good, thanx to some elements, but they didn't al out praise the film. they said it was good, some people loved it, but some thought it okay. It is still the critical consensus that the Original Batman stands high above all the others as the best.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 17 2002 - 21:46
So, the reviews said oh it was good, thanx to some elements, but they didn't al out praise the film. they said it was good, some people loved it, but some thought it okay.
I'm not sure what reviews you've read. The ones I've read have praised far more than just a few elements. And when did ROTJ air on tv? Cartoon network? Was it the editted or uncut version?

And like I've said before, find a message board populated by Batman fans, and ask them. I wouldn't say the things I've been saying idly, nor am I trying to argue just for the heck of it. I can't speak for how much of a Batman you are, because I don't know. But I've seen every episode of BTAS and TNBA. I've seen all the live Batman movies, as well as the animated ones. I've seen most of the Batman Beyond episodes. I've seen several of the Justice League episodes. I've read and own many Batman comics (as well as a lot of other comic titles). I've even read Batman novels. From all that I've seen and read, the animated version of Batman and Gotham City ranks as one of the very best. And having spent countless time on message boards like the ones at toonzone that are devoted to Batman, I can tell you that most Bat fans seems to have the same opinion as me. I've never seen concensus that the animated series was poor or couldn't stand up to the 1989 Batman. You're right that MOTP received mixed reviews, but so did Batman. And ROTJ has received excellent reviews.

[Luminara Skye]

How can you guys say that Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill's careers have hit the rocks. *Just because you don't see them like we see Harrison Ford doesn't mean their careers are in the toilet!

Mark Hamill has his own comic book series. *It's called Black Pearl. He is supposed to be trying to get it made into a movie. *He wants to direct it so I don't think he'll act in it. *(Not to mention all the Wing Commander stuff.) *He also does tons of voice-overs. *I watch a lot of Discovery Channel & Learning Channel (yes, I am a geek) and at least once a week I'll recognise his voice. *Occaisonally he gets an acting gig. *I was flipping through the channels the other day and found that Mark was in The Big Red One. *It's an old World War II movie with Lee Marvin. *I think that was the title. *

Carrie Fisher is one of the top Script Doctors in Hollywood right now. *She scripted the Oscars a couple years back. *She is a best selling author and has her own show on the Oxygen network. *She's had some hard knocks battling manic depression. *

So they are both successful in their own right. *Harrison Ford has just had more good fortune in front of the camera. *I mean, how many of the top movies of all time is he in? * style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Luminara Skye@Aug. 18 2002 - 01:53
So they are both successful in their own right. *
You're absolutely right. I hadn't known that information about Carrie until recently, when I saw something on tv about her. Her and Mark have both had successess through the years.

[Mann]

Judged by the Success of Star Wars, the two actors haven't done very much post-RotJ. teh most successful saga in film History should have made them huge stars, and it did for a short time. There star faded and they are now out of the hollywood spotlight. Fisher's carreer will never rise above Leia because of her sex symbol status (she was rectely named the 2nd sexiest movie character of all time next to Maximus in Gladiator). Hamill's voice overs aren't recognizable which means he wont be found very much. Harrison Ford was made a Star because of Indianna Jones, NOt just Star Wars. He has risen to film success that a Star wars actor should have done. Let's hope Hayden and Natalie don't follow the same path, more importantly Hayden because he may never be able to rise out of his character.

The RotJ was on TV don't you know? I remember it was on WB not too long ago when Batman Beyond tanked.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 18 2002 - 15:28
The RotJ was on TV don't you know? I remember it was on WB not too long ago when Batman Beyond tanked.
I haven't been watching wb much recently. Do you remember if it was the uncut version?

I honestly don't understand what goes through their minds, though, and at the moment I'm pretty sour on the WB. BB wasn't doing bad rating-wise, yet they didn't renew it after it completed it's run. Burton wasn't doing bad with the Batman movies, yet they turned things over to Schumacher for Batman Forever. And for some reason, they must have thought BF was great, because they kept the series in his hands for B&R. There was supposed to be a live action Batman Beyond movie with Dini writing, which would have rocked, but WB halted that. I had been hearing for years about Batman 5 eventually happening as a year one story with Frank Miller possibly writing. That might still happen, but it's been pushed back. Why? That's all I can ask. I just don't understand.

It seemed like there was going to be hope for future Batman movies, but all the projects seem to stall. Now, finally, we have confirmation that the Batman/Superman movie will happen, but the casting seems like it go very wrong. They've got Colin Farell as Wayne/Batman, which could work, but I'm hearing that Josh Hartnet's being considered for Superman. Please no. What is wrong with them? Wolfgang Peterson's directing, which is okay. Maybe the movie will turn out all right. From the things Wolfgang has said, it sounds like he's taking it seriously. I can only hope.

Marvel's had great results recently with there superheroes on the big-screen, and there's much more to come with Daredevil and Hulk not far away. WB better get things back on track soon and respond with some high quality movies.

[Mann]

I see Farrel as Batman, but why Josh Hartnett? He's nto terrible good with expressions, and they could use Tom Welling as Superman. Why not?

I agree, Batman Beyond was good, better than the original series. I think the version was the cut version, because it was on TV. I heard of Batman 5 on a commerical to be in the movie. but that was a while ago and I;ve heard nothing since. I'll check coming attractions.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 19 2002 - 01:33
I see Farrel as Batman, but why Josh Hartnett? He's nto terrible good with expressions, and they could use Tom Welling as Superman. Why not?
Hartnett seems too young, and I'm not sure he's capable of creating Superman's presence. Who's Tom Welling? I'm not sure if I've seen him or not.

[Mann]

He's the actor on the show Smallville. I mean, he looks alot like Christopher Reeve and actually looks like Superman.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 19 2002 - 12:50
He's the actor on the show Smallville. I mean, he looks alot like Christopher Reeve and actually looks like Superman.
Oh, right, right. He's was definitely a great choice for Smallville. He would be young, though, for the movie. He's fine for Smallville, where he's playing a young Clark, but Superman's older and would require someone older. Especially if Wayne/Batman is already at adulthood.

[Mann]

Well, if they choose Farrell, he's not that old either. And Superman is younger than Batman is, so they could always make Welling look older. But Farrel owoud be a definate improvement over the miscast George Cloony. Who would the villian be?

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 19 2002 - 14:25
Who would the villian be?
I'm not sure. Superman and Batman will apparantly be in conflict during the movie, given their different styles. Sort of "Batman versus Superman" sort of scenario, but by the end they'll be united against the common enemy. Who or what that'll be, I don't know.

Luthor might be the best bet. He's always been Supes greatest enemy, and since he's human and not superpowered, he'd be good opposition for Bats as well.

[Mann]

Why not the Joker and Lex Luther team up? That would be the ultimate movie. When is this movie coming out?

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Mann@Aug. 19 2002 - 20:04
Why not the Joker and Lex Luther team up? That would be the ultimate movie. When is this movie coming out?
That would work. I've been assuming they'd avoid Joker, only because they already used him in "Batman". I kind of have the impression that they'll be looking to relaunch the movie series for each of them after this movie. I don't know whether they'll want to reuse villains they've already shown in the movies.

I'm not sure when the movie will be out. Maybe 2004?

[Saranac]

I heard read something about a new Batman movie, actually I kinda glanced over the article but it said something like Batman and Superman were teaming up for a movie. I don't know how there going to replace Christopher Reeves, he was to good.

Nice quote Mann

A.B.F.B.

[Mann]

Well, tom Welling looks a hell of alot like Christopher Reeve right? So why not. He's in his twenties, he could do it. But they'll probably go for some older guy. well, I heard that Farrel is a virtual lock for batman. the villian i haven't heard about.

Saranac: you know that quote rocks! I'm gonna find more quotes from that film.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Saranac@Aug. 20 2002 - 19:12
I heard read something about a new Batman movie, actually I kinda glanced over the article but it said something like Batman and Superman were teaming up for a movie.
Yeah, that's the one we're talking about. It's got great potential, so let's hope they don't blow it. As long as they find somebody reasonable for Superman, it should work out.

[Saranac]

I have the feeling its going to be one of those dumb movies that does good in the Box Office. I could be wrong, we'll just have to find out. It all depends on who they get for Batman and Superman.

"A Royal with cheese"

Pulp Fiction is the best movie.

A.B.F.B.

[Jedi Luke]

Hi to the people who mentioned Aayla Secura. Indeed Amy Allen used to work at ILM (she doesn't anymore though). It is quite surprising how popular Aayla has become, but also at the same time, not really surprising at all!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif Anyway just thought I'd say hello to the couple of fellow fans who exist here.

(PS: check out my Aayla Secura fansite if you feel the urge)

[Saranac]

What does that have to do with anything?

Read the above.

[Jedi Luke]

Sorry, some people posted about Amy Allen and Aayla Secura on page 1 and 2. I know I'm a little late to this thread, but I was simply replying to them...

I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

[Saranac]

Thats alright, I understand. Borgmatrix and Mann read above Jedi Luke for what I wrote.

[Darth Darthy]

Oooh, can I plug myself then?

For all you Darth Darthy fans go to WWW.NOWHERE.COME, and for autographed stuff send me lot's of money. And don't expect an autograph.

Darth Darthy, serving your needs 24hrs a day. Esspecially if your a chick. Well, only if your a chick. Neked chicks esspecially welcome. Please.

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by Saranac@Aug. 21 2002 - 19:24
I have the feeling its going to be one of those dumb movies that does good in the Box Office.
I'm getting worried about it. I read that the project's on hold, since director Wolfgang Peterson's going to be involved with a movie called "Troy". It always seems to end up like this for Batman projects. There's all kinds of developments and progress and then 'Bam!' the movies are put on hold or dropped all together.

It's been said there might be a "Superman" movie alone with McG directing. I don't know anything about this guy. He directed "Charlie's Angels", I guess.

[Saranac]

WHAT

I just went to that site, that is the biggest waste of HTML I have ever seen. WOW you have fans Darth Darthy, I would have never known......................

Really I don't know much about all of the Batman movies.

[Mann]

Just read a poll in Entertainment Weekly today. Says that the public votes that Michael Keaton (yes!) should play Batman in the next film, but Ben affleck should be Superman. Michael Keaton is a great batman, but his age could be problem. Ben affleck is already doing a superhero so I wouldn't bet on it. I see someone whose an unknown guy playing him. Farrell seems like he should play Batamn, his star is rising this year.

[Obidobi]

Joker?, Superman?, Batman?
Is that Star Wars?

I thought this was the classic Trilogy section?, and a topic about how Han Solo came to be!

Hmmm!!! I guess I was wrong!!!! :sly: :duel:

[Saranac]

ERM..........

We were getting around to that,.........um................sooner or later........maybe.......look at that!!!!!!!.........(runs out the back door while heads are turned)..........

[Obidobi]

By the way, Boba Fett IS DEAD!!!!
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[Darth Darthy]

Join the Darkside, my young apprentice....

[borgmatrix]

Originally posted by obidobi@Aug. 27 2002 - 18:31
Joker?, Superman?, Batman?
Is that Star Wars?
Well, Mark Hamill does the voice of Joker for the animated series. So that's the connection to Star Wars. The other cool thing is that ROTJ can be used to refer not only to "Return of the Jedi", but also "Return of the Joker", an excellent animated Batman movie.

Yeah, we strayed a little bit, but at least there's still a link to SW, even if it's a slight one.

[Saranac]

Yea I was going to say that to......................

I just read in the New York Post that Tim Burton is making a Batman musical.

This is no joke its in the middle of the paper somewhere.

I don't know about you but that is defiantly NOT on my to see list.

[Mann]

Anyway, let's start this up again. I just saw why Hamill isn't getting much work. the guy doesn't look like he used to. He looks kinda funny. Not like a star anymore, and certainly no longer an icon.

[Saranac]

LOL your right Mann...............I just saw a picture of him in a magazine.

He doesn't even look like when he was in Star Wars........he looks like a completely different person.....

Tim Burton is making a Batman Musical.