Is Vader's suit reliable?

[MandalorianJF]

Is Vader's suit reliable? We see him using it all the time on clean and perfectly contained Star Destroyers, but if he would be stranded somewhere with no technology (like Dagobah) would he still be able to survive for a few month (or years)?

[Tovor]

Interesting question. My concern would be that the suit needs a power supply of some sort to keep it operating. We saw that 3PO had to shut down and recharge, in Kenobi's hut. My thoughts are that Vader also needs to plug in and recharge, which he may have been doing in the meditation chamber we saw him in on the Star Destroyer. If he was stranded on Dagobah or elsewhere, eventually he'd have to power up his suit and obviously there would be no way to do that. I'm sure his power supply is long lasting; it would have to be, but it couldn't possibly run forever without recharging, IMO.

[Kommandant Felix]

Unless it runs off the bioelectricity that his body produces. Then it should run indefinitely, as long as he can find air to breathe.

Theoretically.

[Tovor]

Unless it runs off the bioelectricity that his body produces. Then it should run indefinitely, as long as he can find air to breathe.

Theoretically.
Orly? :scratchchin:

[thepepgal]

Maybe that is why he never went back to Tattooine, as the sand would get in and over heat the electronics. Remember he was directly about the planet but still didn't land on it. :giveup:

I'm sure there would have been some kind on maintenance on it, due to wear and tear, replacement of air filters etc.

Why venture anywhere he didn't need to, since he could send the troops in instead.:scratchchin:

[MandalorianJF]

Unless it runs off the bioelectricity that his body produces. Then it should run indefinitely, as long as he can find air to breathe.

Theoretically.

^ that's what I was hopping (but we don't know for a fact :( )
Maybe it even runs on his blood?


hmm
Maybe that is why he never went back to Tattooine, as the sand would get in and over heat the electronics. Remember he was directly about the planet but still didn't land on it. :giveup:

I'm sure there would have been some kind on maintenance on it, due to wear and tear, replacement of air filters etc.

Why venture anywhere he didn't need to, since he could send the troops in instead.:scratchchin:

Vader's suit looks to be covered pretty good

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/be/The_New_Dark_Lord.jpg

and I would think that if it was not like this in the beginning, Vader would modify it to be reliable, I'm pretty sure sometime in him life he had an idea that he might have to survive on his own
but then again we have no evidence of that ^

oh...and he did come down to Hoth (but not for long)



Also how do you guys think his suit would operate in extreme hot and cold environments? Moisture? Water? (was if he fell in a river? lol) ect...

[bruciarsi]

I would imagine his suit and all his replacement parts would require maintenance from time to time. Id say he could last a fair while without it though. Its gonna be a pretty advanced system best money can buy. Plus being Anakin skywalker hes not exactly without the technical ability to fix it if damaged.

[thepepgal]

Vader's suit looks to be covered pretty good

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/be/The_New_Dark_Lord.jpg

and I would think that if it was not like this in the beginning, Vader would modify it to be reliable, I'm pretty sure sometime in him life he had an idea that he might have to survive on his own
but then again we have no evidence of that ^

oh...and he did come down to Hoth (but not for long)



Also how do you guys think his suit would operate in extreme hot and cold environments? Moisture? Water? (was if he fell in a river? lol) ect...

Going to Hoth is different to Tattooine. Since snow isn't as small as sand is and his suit would keep him warm. Maybe his suit is water resistant as it doesn't look waterproof. I'm sure that they made the suit with the largest temp range they could.

Tatooine being hot would have heated that quilted material and made his burnt skin uncomfortable even though it had heal years earlier. In my original post, I was thinking about the sand and the control panel being the issue and not sand getting in to him. Mind you on that thought, go to the beach (fine sand) and see how much sand and where it is you bring home is amazing.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

In the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader it gives some details as to how Anakin made adjustments to the suit in the early days he was in it - might be worth a read if you are interested in that. :)

[MandalorianJF]

Plus being Anakin skywalker he not exactly without the technical ability to fix it if damaged.

I like the sound of that

Tatooine being hot would have heated that quilted material and made his burnt skin uncomfortable even though it had heal years earlier.

Do you think his suit might also have the ability to cool down his body?

In the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader it gives some details as to how Anakin made adjustments to the suit in the early days he was in it - might be worth a read if you are interested in that. :)

amm...I do not have the novel yet, when you get a chance do you think you can provide us with some quotes, thanks.

[thepepgal]

In the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader it gives some details as to how Anakin made adjustments to the suit in the early days he was in it - might be worth a read if you are interested in that. :)

But Andy he did modifications on the mechanics for movement if I remember correctly, as opposed to expanding where it could be used and the effects nature had on it. He was furstrated with his clunky leg movements. He wondered why Palpatine didn't give him the best mechanics.

[MandalorianJF]

He was furstrated with his clunky leg movements. He wondered why Palpatine didn't give him the best mechanics.

clunky leg movements?

[Solo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in one of the OT movies, we saw Vader in a chamber without his helmet. Couldn't that chamber be some kind of a re-charge or maintenance unit for his suit as well?

As an engineer, I have to say that all manmade items must be maintained. Otherwise they will fail sooner or later.

[thepepgal]

clunky leg movements?

Like watching someone walk with leg braces on. The mechanical joints didn't have a full range of movement.

[MandalorianJF]

As an engineer, I have to say that all manmade items must be maintained. Otherwise they will fail sooner or later.

That is exactly why I asked this question

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in one of the OT movies, we saw Vader in a chamber without his helmet.

episode 5

Couldn't that chamber be some kind of a re-charge or maintenance unit for his suit as well?

yes, but what would he do without it?

[Tovor]

clunky leg movements?

Like watching someone walk with leg braces on. The mechanical joints didn't have a full range of movement.
Exactly as Pepgalsaid. He noticed his limitations during his first lightsaber duel after Mustafar. If I remember correctly, he was dismayed because he had battled a younger Jedi and hadn't been able to defeat him as quickly as he would have been able to in the past, due to the limitations in movement.

[Solo]

yes, but what would he do without it?

If something needs periodic maintenance to function properly, it will malfunction sooner or later without maintenance.

[thepepgal]

yes, but what would he do without it?

Well the suit probably had a tracking device that he could activate so he couldn't be stranded anywhere. He may have flown a Tie on occasions but he was always usually in command of a Star Destroyer. If one of them goes missing I'm sure the Empire would look for it. :wink:

Remember in AOTC Obi Wan worked out that Anakin was on Tattooine instead of Naboo by a tracking device, so I'm sure this would continue when he became Vader.

[Morridini]

The The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_New_Essential_Guide_to_Weapons_and_Technology) provided this info:
Vader's prosthetic limbs and all of the armor's functions were powered by dozens of rechargeable energy cells located throughout the suit that allowed Vader to travel for long stretches without recharging his armor. Even when the energy cells were depleted, he could maintain basic life-support functions through replaceable backup power cells (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Power_pak). Typically, however, Vader recharged his suit within a meditation sphere, such as the one located aboard his personal Star Dreadnought (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Dreadnought), the Executor (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor)—although he could access any standard fusion furnace (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fusion_furnace) for this purpose

More here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader%27s_armor

[Mothman]

I wonder if he paid the extra money to get the long-term warranty? :scratchchin:





:bye:

[Braden Dar]

Thank you, Morridini, I was going to comment something to that effect.

Vader's suit obviously contained a life-support system that would provide the proper mix of gases for breathing, as well as the right amount of air pressure and bio-hazard screening (which for Vader would mean most things). It would need to be powered, but a single power source would be too bulky and an obvious target. So make many smaller power cells (smaller but similar to his little power cell for his podracer in Episode I), and place them throughout the armor.

As for walking around the Star Destroyers or other places out of his suit...
Again, air pressure, proper gas mix and bio-hazard screening. What if a junior officer starts sneezing around the dark Lord? It could contaminate him and be potentially fatal. Sounds odd to say it like that, but that is what it comes down to.

That chamber on the Executor was a special chamber built to provide the same environment as his suit, and he could survive for short periods in a standard atmosphere.

Further, his deformed appearance would draw unwanted stares from everyone, regardless of the risk to their own lives. It would also lessen the respect that he could command (maybe that would be fear).

It would likely (see Episode V) also contain heating or cooling systems to keep him at the right temperature. That would stand to reason if he were in a TIE fighter, after all. No oxygen and no heating in the ball cockpits.

That's my take on his suit.

[thepepgal]

I wonder if he paid the extra money to get the long-term warranty? :scratchchin:


Pay? :eek:

Would you charge a fee to a guy who can force choke you for not fixing his suit?:vader:

[MandalorianJF]

Thank you, Morridini, I was going to comment something to that effect.

Vader's suit obviously contained a life-support system that would provide the proper mix of gases for breathing, as well as the right amount of air pressure and bio-hazard screening (which for Vader would mean most things). It would need to be powered, but a single power source would be too bulky and an obvious target. So make many smaller power cells (smaller but similar to his little power cell for his podracer in Episode I), and place them throughout the armor.

As for walking around the Star Destroyers or other places out of his suit...
Again, air pressure, proper gas mix and bio-hazard screening. What if a junior officer starts sneezing around the dark Lord? It could contaminate him and be potentially fatal. Sounds odd to say it like that, but that is what it comes down to.

That chamber on the Executor was a special chamber built to provide the same environment as his suit, and he could survive for short periods in a standard atmosphere.

Further, his deformed appearance would draw unwanted stares from everyone, regardless of the risk to their own lives. It would also lessen the respect that he could command (maybe that would be fear).

It would likely (see Episode V) also contain heating or cooling systems to keep him at the right temperature. That would stand to reason if he were in a TIE fighter, after all. No oxygen and no heating in the ball cockpits.

That's my take on his suit.

good post
But for how long do you think he would survive without an external power source? and extra parts?

[MandalorianJF]

lol, I think I just found the answer to my own question.
After the Battle of the Yavin, Vader was stranded in his damaged Tie Advanced and he flew to the nearest Imperial Outpost on Vaal. After he crash-landed on the planet he had to travel on foot with many different creatures attack him. And as far as you can see, he survived.

What do you guys think about that?

[Solo]

What I think is that his suit was built pretty strongly and those power cells can go without a recharge for quite a long time.