General EU Speculation thread

[Darth Massacrus]

Make educated, semi-educated, or just plain random guesses about the future of the EU, future EU revelations, comics, stories, novels, ect.
Example:

KOTOR comic speculation

Alek becomes Darth Malak
Zayne becomes Darth Nihilus
Haazen becomes Darth Sion
the mysterious 'Revanchist Leader' actually becomes Revan
the characters of Krynda Draay, Kreia, Arren Kae, and Darth Traya are all tied together somehow

[csr74]

Interesting...

KOTOR:

Alek is Malak
Revanchist Leader is Revan (Hood)
Lucien is Sion??
Zayne is Zayne
Jarael and Zayne are perhaps ancestors of Fay (even parents???)
Krynda is the same person as Kreia (and so on)

LOTF:

Jacen Solo gets killed by Darth Krayt in an indirect way (so many bad jokes couldn´t be left without punishment).
Alema Rar gets killed too (i guess some author takes pity on her and provides a swift end).

LEGACY:

Darth Talon ends up switching allegiances.
Cade says "no" to becoming a Sith Lord (you know, familiy traditions and such).
Darth Ruyn is Darth Talon´s father.
The final test Darth Krayt puts to Cade is to kill Darth Talon.

[Darth Massacrus]

interesting indeed (I fully agree with the Talon switching sides guess)

KOTOR speculation:
The as of yet unnamed Admiral of the Fleet or the Supreme Chancellor turns out to be an older Captain Vanicus from Tales of the Jedi (I really hope this one comes true)
Some of the Revanchists turn out to be the Jedi seen in the tomb vision in KotorII (Cariaga Sin, Nisotsa, ect)
At least one familiar face from Tales of the Jedi (likely Oss Willum, Tott Doneeta, Nomi or Vima Sunrider) will be seen again in the Kotor comics; or the final fate of one will be revealed in passing.
When Zayne gets back on Taris, he meets either Selven or the Ulgo family from Kotor 1.

Legacy Speculation
Darth Krayt meets K'Kruhk for the first time in a century

Vector Speculation
Darth Andeddu has some connection to this, as he first appeared in Republic, then Legacy, and the Darth name was known by the Jedi during the Kotor comics era (Darth Sunshine reference); all of which heavily influence the current stories.

[Lord Tesla]

1. Kevin J. Anderson will return to write Mesa Longo Tale-o: The Autobiography of Jar Jar Binks, written in the first person as by Jar Jar himself. Jar Jar will step in icky-icky goo repeatedly,and come up smelling like...a Gungan who's stepped in icky-icky goo. He will also be shown to be responsible for the catastrophic decline in the quality of clone troopers in the OT, having mistaken the last remaining container of Jango's DNA for a urinal during a tour of the Camino cloning facilities.

2. Anakin Solo will rise from the grave.

3. The wrap up on Legacy of the Force will be anticlimactic.

[Darth Massacrus]

Kevin J. Anderson returning????

Nah, I predict that the guys behind the Jedi Prince books will return and create a new novel series, likely the novelization of the upcoming Force Unleashed game.:wink:


Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised of Vader's secret Apprentice turns out to be Drake Lo'gaan from the webstrips.

[csr74]

That of Drake Lo´gaan being the secret apprentice makes some sense though i think there´s a problem with that somewhere...

This is a bit dead, let´s go wild:

LEGACY:

Darth Talon´s grandparents (at least one of them) are the result of mixing Darth Krayt´s DNA with that of Xiaan Amersu.

[Darth Massacrus]

I think that the Talon/ Xiaan Amersu connection is unlikely, but hey, who knows?

However, something makes me wonder if the Darth Wyyrlokks are related at all to Mas Amedda (who is also Chagrian and familiar with Sith history).


The Force Unleashed Speculation:
Darth Phobas is revealed to have been a female Sith Lord from sometime between Bane and Plagueis.


Legacy novel speculation

Alema Rar becomes the apprentice of Darth Cadeus

Darth Vectivus' Holocron actually contains the financial information and secret plans of numerous Sith from Bane's order (essentially a step by step list of of how the Sith gradually grew during their isolation)

Luke and Jacen end up killing each other

Jaina Solo marries Jagged Fel, and their descendants start the Fel Dynasty

Gilad Pelleaon eventually passes away



Legacy comic speculation:

Krayt's Sith do turn on each other, but Talon and Cade either get redeemed or turn on Krayt together

Nyna Calixte eventually tries to betray Morlish Veed, but fails and is executed for treason

Talon and Shado Vao duel (again), neither win

The Jedi and the Yuuzhan Vong reveal how the Sith sabotaged the Ossus Project, causing a Civil War across the galaxy

[Lord Tesla]

Kevin J. Anderson returning????

Terrifying prospect, isn't it? I thought it somehow seasonally appropriate.

Nah, I predict that the guys behind the Jedi Prince books will return and create a new novel series, likely the novelization of the upcoming Force Unleashed game.:wink:

Yikes...

Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised of Vader's secret Apprentice turns out to be Drake Lo'gaan from the webstrips.

Interesting...

[csr74]

I know Xiaan Amersu and Darth Talon have differnet skin hues, but if the rest of the grandparents are red-skinned...

These guesses about LOTF seem quite accurate, Darth Massacrus:

Alema Rar becomes the apprentice of Darth Cadeus

Darth Vectivus' Holocron actually contains the financial information and secret plans of numerous Sith from Bane's order (essentially a step by step list of of how the Sith gradually grew during their isolation)

Luke and Jacen end up killing each other

Jaina Solo marries Jagged Fel, and their descendants start the Fel Dynasty

Gilad Pelleaon eventually passes away

...except for the Luke and Jacen killing each other. And perhaps the holocron is useless after all.

I remember now that maybe the Secret Apprentice is a bit too old to be Drake Lo´gaan...:scratchchin:...although the idea is tempting.

No doubt Nyna Calixte will betray everybody she is able to if that means furthering her own goals, but somehow i don´t imagine her failing...perhaps Veed tries a coup de etat?

LOTF and LEGACY:

Another speculation but incompatible with some of the previous:
Alema Rar and Jacen Solo become the ancestors of Darth Talon.

[Master Magnus]

Terrifying prospect, isn't it? I thought it somehow seasonally appropriate.
As disappointed I've been with the EU for over a year now, that wouldn't surprise me.

[Darth Massacrus]

Terrifying prospect, isn't it? I thought it somehow seasonally appropriate.


Well, at least anything he wrote is still better than The Crystal Star or Children of the Jedi.....

[Darth Massacrus]

I know Xiaan Amersu and Darth Talon have differnet skin hues, but if the rest of the grandparents are red-skinned...

LOTF and LEGACY:

Another speculation but incompatible with some of the previous:
Alema Rar and Jacen Solo become the ancestors of Darth Talon.


Maybe it could theoretically happen, assuming Talon is really a Rutian Twi'lek with full body Sith Tattoos....:scratchchin:

I would hope that Jacen and Alema are not her ancestors, if only because the thought of Vader's grandson knocking up an insane, mutant, Killik/Twi'lek Dark Jedi is a little too much to bear (although the Jedi Prince series had the three eyed mutant, insane son of Palpatine getting a nurse, also a Jedi Princess, pregnant while he was an inmate at an insane asylum)

[Lord Tesla]

Well, at least anything he wrote is still better than The Crystal Star or Children of the Jedi.....

Better than The Crystal Star? Absolutely. Jeez, a chimpanzee could beat TCS with a couple of hours' random keyboard banging.

Children of the Jedi, Barbara Hambly...don't recall a great deal about that one. Was that the one with the Eye of Palatine? Jedi spirit chick in the computer on the space station, orbiting land-mine, whatever it was? Definitely weak, but not in the same excremental league as The Crystal Star.

[csr74]

Well, i don´t know how the skin hues vary depending of heritage in the Twi´leks...in fact Talon is supposed to be a red skinned one (lethan, it was?)...and i don´t know what mix would produce that result, if there are even Twi´leks with a suspiciously human-looking skin hue, who knows.:scratchchin::giveup:
On the other hand the thought of Alema and Jacen is completely depravated, but such things seem to happen.

And i agree that a connection between Mas Amedda and the Wyrlokks seems more than probable.

The rest of the topic you´re talking about sounds too scary for me...:scared:

[Darth Massacrus]

The rest of the topic you´re talking about sounds too scary for me...:scared:

What, The Crystal Star? Or the Jedi Prince series?:wink:


Anyways, here's new predictions:

game speculation:
The Sith Lords Restoration Project mod will have at least a beta download available by the end of the year

generic comic speculation:
Darth Andeddu is revealed to have been one of the early Dark Lord's of the Sith Empire, and possibly one of the fallen Dark Jedi from the Hundred Year Darkness.

[csr74]

What, The Crystal Star? Or the Jedi Prince series?:wink:

Both. *shudders*

That of Darth Andreddu souns quite probable, perhaps to make it clear the origins of the "Darth" title?

[Darth Massacrus]

actually, the Darth title seems to be a word with Rakatan origins...

but yeah, I really want to see more of Andeddu, especially if they decide to make him into one of the True Sith....

[csr74]

Andeddu one of the true Sith...that sounds great and very interesting.


Let´s have a try with another speculation:

Force Unleashed:

Shaak Ti survives the game.

[Darth Massacrus]

ooh, Shak Ti survives the game! I like it!


The Force Unleashed game speculation

The Secret Apprentice does not survive the game canonically

the Secret Apprentice finds and learns from the Holocron of Darth Phobas

[csr74]

Considering her ability to escape death that´s more like a fact than a speculation, don´t you think so?
There are three kinds of Force users:
-The Jedi and Sith that die on a regular basis.
-K´khruk, who survives many deaths.
-Shaak Ti, who just lives on and on and on...

On the rest i´ll contradict you a bit:

Force Unleashed:

The Dark Apprentice falls to the Light Side and goes away with his pilot.


By the way, in the light of recent events, you´ll have to provide stronger arguments to support your opposition to Alema Rar and Jacen Solo getting into a relationship...:wink:

[Darth Massacrus]

Comic speculation:


With XoXaan having recently been revealed to have been one of the Exiles from the Hundred Year Darkness, and one of the first of the Sith Lords, I think some Sith speculation is in order:

Darth Andeddu will be revealed to have also been among the Exiles, or the immediate descendant of one.

[csr74]

I agree with that.

Legacy speculation:

Cade fails his next exam on "History of the Sith" because he hasn´t studied the list of the Sith Lords. :wink:

Now more seriously, either Deliah Blue or Morrigan Corde get killed soon.

[Darth Massacrus]

Alema Rar gets killed too (i guess some author takes pity on her and provides a swift end).




Have you heard the news? From what I hear, you might be right.....:wink:

[csr74]

No, i háven´t read the news, otherwise this wouldn´t be speculation, wouldn´t it?:wink:

Do you think Jacen and her...?

[Darth Nameless]

i think jacen and her become both master and apprentace...cause that would cause the most hurt to leia...she is still wanting revenge and the balance and all that jazz!:yeah:

[csr74]

Well, Darth Nameless, i think that´s pretty sure, in fact i was wondering wether they would get into a more...er...personal...relationship.

[Cassus Fett]

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but check this link out:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed_%28novel%29

[Darth Massacrus]

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but check this link out:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed_%28novel%29



Neat. The interesting thing is that Wookie still hasn't added Darth Phobas to the list of characters. Apparently, Kari Wahlgren will be voicing a Sith Lord by that name in the game, so the Phobas character should be in the novel as well....

Anyways, time for some Legacy Comic Speculation:

Vergere will be shown in a future Legacy issue, where Krayt meets her during his captivity

Darth Nihil will attempt to usurp Krayt, perhaps even having Maladi side with him

Darth Andeddu's prediction that Krayt's Sith will turn on him will come true

Deliah Blue angrily confronts Cade about Talon



Extremely Specific and Far Reaching Legacy Comic Speculation:

Krayt's Sith on Coruscant turn on each other (as Andeddu predicted), with Nihil and Maladi teaming up, Cade and Talon banding together against Krayt ending up with both Talon and Cade escaping and being redeemed, and Krayt having only Wyyrlokk and Strife remain loyal.

[Darth Nameless]

Well, Darth Nameless, i think that´s pretty sure, in fact i was wondering wether they would get into a more...er...personal...relationship.

THAT IS SERIOUS DESPERATION THERE!!! I MEAN HALF A FOOT, LIMP ARM, SPLIT PERSONALITY?? JUST THE MENTAL ISSUES ARE ENOUGH! BUT WHO KNOWS...THEY DO SAY ITS LONELY AT THE TOP!

[csr74]

I think you´re right Darth Nameless...after all what would she see in a ludicrous, crazy power-hungry little jerk?:wink:


Oh, and i like this last speculations by Darth Massacrus. Seem very sound to me.

[Darth Nameless]

i would have to agree with those speculations also Darth Massacrus

[Darth Massacrus]

Remember when I speculated that 'the Revanchist/Revanchist Leader' and Alek from the Kotor comics become Darth Revan and Darth Malak, respectively? I am so glad I got a copy of Jedi Vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force.....

[csr74]

Although that one dídn´t seem very difficult to guess. :wink:

[Darth Massacrus]

Although that one dídn´t seem very difficult to guess. :wink:


True. But there are still more Darth's :

Darth Nihilus = Zayne Carrick
Darth Sion = Haazen
Darth Traya = Krynda Draay

anyone want to guess at who will become Darth Bandon?

[Darth Nameless]

ill let you know after i get done reading the new essential guide to the force lol

[csr74]

True. But there are still more Darth's :

Darth Nihilus = Zayne Carrick
Darth Sion = Haazen
Darth Traya = Krynda Draay

anyone want to guess at who will become Darth Bandon?


If you want my opinion...i don´t see Zayne becoming any Darth at all...you know, there´s certain "Darth Sunshine" in the surroundings...:wink:

Lucien is a different matter, though...him as Darth Sion looks probable, i mean, he would get more or less the same wounds as Haazen which would be a ironical twist of the kind you would expect in SW, the visions of the other Masters at Taris don´t show what his fate may be and leave open his future, but he´s ruthless and kills people in cold blood...not very light-sided behaviour, you know.

[Darth Massacrus]

look closely at the details of Nihilus' face that are visible. Then compare them to Zayne Carrick. Anyone else see what I see?

[csr74]

The similarities are no more than what could be expected between two different individuals...and we´ve seen other pictures of Zayne and he didn´t look so alike...if he does look alike at all. Plus there are lots of features of Darth Nihilus that don´t seem to cope very well with Zayne. For instance, what about this weird dialect and so on?

As i see it, it´s more probable that Zayne becomes the founder of the Skywalker line (with the aforemontioned female Arkanian offshot) and ancestor of Fay than his becoming Nihilus.

[Darth Massacrus]

There are reasons that I have for thinking that Zayne eventually becomes Nihilus, though at the time all I can really say is to examine (very closely, the eyes and facial features) of Nihilus, and compare them to those of Zayne.

However, Zayne is mentioned as having random destructive power, and Nihilus certainly does have immense destructive power. Nihilus is known to have been a survivor of the Mandalorian Wars, but only (so far) of the final battle at Malachor V. Nihilus is known to have escaped death by containing his consciousness within his armor. Interestingly, Nihilus has been known to have been a breach in the Force, and (according to Kreia) was already dead, and that it was simply a matter of how many he killed before he fell.

There is a way to put all of these facts together:

Zayne Carrick is framed for murder by his Jedi Masters and the Jedi Covenant, and with the rest of the Jedi Order against him, he receives a vision of the last living Covenant member confessing what had really happenned (the rest were killed by him). He joins the war effort along side Alek, one of the few Jedi to support him. He is present at the final battle on Malachor V, and is planetside when the Mass Shadow Generator is activated. He escapes being destroyed by the MSG by retaining his consciousness in the armor he happens to be wearing, leaving his body a blackened shell that is nothing more than a breach in the Force. Trapped on Malachor V, he discovers the Trayus Academy, and eventually learns the ways of the Sith under Darth Traya, taking on the Sith name Darth Nihilus. Eventually overthrowing Traya (who he hated because she was formerly Krynda Draay, head of the Covenant) along with Darth Sion (formerly Krynda's assistant Haazen), he uses the Force to salvage the former Republic ship Ravager from the wreckage above Malachor, and embarks on his quest to destroy the Jedi....

Now wasn't that one hell of a speculation?

[csr74]

Yes, it is, and a very good effort. Although i still see many things that don´t work...somehow it seems to me that Darth Nihilus is an older guy...don´t ask why. Why would he go to Traya if he hated her? It would look more logical to try and kill her at first sight...somehow he seems a different person, with no previous relationship with Traya in that sense, and Zayne doesn´t look obsessed at all with his mission, i mean, he manages to keep certain balance and is ready to sacrifice that mission (and even his own life) for his friends. In other words, if with all that´s happened to him, he hasn´t fallen already to the Dark Side...i´m afraid he´s Dark Side-impervious. It´s curious, he´s nearly too well natured to turn and even to kill his masters.

[Darth Massacrus]

KOTOR comic Speculation

Krynda Draay is the Covenant member who confesses, causing her to be exiled (and eventually become Darth Traya/Kreia)

[csr74]

That´s another nice piece of speculation, Darth Massacrus. I find an argument against it and an argument for it:

-Against: possibly Zayne when thinking of a "Covenant member" was meaning one of the five masters in Taris.

-For: that´s exactly the sort of thing we could expect from those guys at the Jedi Council of the time...blame the one who has no guilt and provide a hard punishment for the innocent (ok, that would require exiling Zayne,too perhaps).

Now,it´s my turn, you´ve inspired me:

KOTOR:

There´s something more than just friendship between Raana Tey and Lucien Draay. When she is facing Zayne, and trying to kill him, Alek arrives and battles (and eventually kills) her. Lucien arrives just in time to see this without being able to do anything to prevent it, he goes mad and hunts Alek. In the process he gets into a fierce fight with the Mandos and suffers grievous injuries. He is taken back to safety and provided some prosthetics to replace certain parts of his body. He is now ready to learn the Sith teachings from his mother as he´s full of hate and anger at Alek. Some time later, he hunts Alek again (perhaps not yet Darth Malak) finds him and cuts off a good chunk of his lower jaw as retaliation. He leaves Alek there thinking he´s dead...and there you are! Instantaneous Darth Sion and Darth Malak!

Empire at War: Forces of Corruption:

I don´t know if i have said this before, but...i have the feeling that Silri and Tyber Zann will end up together.:wink:

[Darth Massacrus]

That´s another nice piece of speculation, Darth Massacrus. I find an argument against it and an argument for it:

-Against: possibly Zayne when thinking of a "Covenant member" was meaning one of the five masters in Taris.

-For: that´s exactly the sort of thing we could expect from those guys at the Jedi Council of the time...blame the one who has no guilt and provide a hard punishment for the innocent (ok, that would require exiling Zayne,too perhaps).

Now,it´s my turn, you´ve inspired me:

KOTOR:

There´s something more than just friendship between Raana Tey and Lucien Draay. When she is facing Zayne, and trying to kill him, Alek arrives and battles (and eventually kills) her. Lucien arrives just in time to see this without being able to do anything to prevent it, he goes mad and hunts Alek. In the process he gets into a fierce fight with the Mandos and suffers grievous injuries. He is taken back to safety and provided some prosthetics to replace certain parts of his body. He is now ready to learn the Sith teachings from his mother as he´s full of hate and anger at Alek. Some time later, he hunts Alek again (perhaps not yet Darth Malak) finds him and cuts off a good chunk of his lower jaw as retaliation. He leaves Alek there thinking he´s dead...and there you are! Instantaneous Darth Sion and Darth Malak!


I agree that Alek likely will kill at least one Covenant member, most likely to aid Zayne. However, the rest, while awesome, likely will not happen, and it has been revealed that it was Revan who gave Malak his jaw injury.

[Darth Massacrus]

Empire at War: Forces of Corruption:

I don´t know if i have said this before, but...i have the feeling that Silri and Tyber Zann will end up together.:wink:

I think it'll happen too...


Now you have also inspired me:

Empire at War FoC Speculation:

the Carbonite Sith Army will be sen again in some EU material

[csr74]

I´m with you in the Carbonite Sith Army one...i think it´s a too interesting thing to just forget it and never use it again.

I didn´t know it had been Revan who chopped off Malak´s tongue...where´s that?

On the other hand the rest could still work, maybe.

[Darth Massacrus]

Yeah, there is just too much story potential with that frozen army for them to not use it in the future...

Oh, that Malak jaw info is from the Wizards of the Coast article on him.

The rest of what you said could indeed happen; after all, the only thing set in stone is the Carbonite Sith Army....

[Darth Nameless]

now i just got to the carbonite army on FoC...how do you think they will use that info in future EU books or comics?

[csr74]

Thanks for the info Darth Massacrus.

Well, the use of the Carbonite Army mighy vary quite a lot depending on a number of factors...wether they make a sequel or not of FoC, or a book or wathever...it can be used in the same context and by the same characters that apppear in the game or left in storage for another time and era...difficult to say. One idea might be that it is unleashed and destroys (and gets destroyed by) the Zann Consortium, for instance.

[Darth Massacrus]

KOTOR: Vector comic speculation

The Jedi Knight Celeste Morne who helps Zayne will turn out to be the Jedi Exile from Kotor II: TSL....



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celeste_Morne

[csr74]

I think that´s very likely, too. We´ll see what happens, but i guess that if we don´t see her face, then it´s sure she´s the Exile.

[Darth Massacrus]

Here's all the EU predictions I've made so far:

Red= well, so much for that...
Blue= the force is strong in this one...
Black= always in motion, the future is...

KOTOR comic speculation

Alek becomes Darth Malak

Zayne becomes Darth Nihilus

Haazen becomes Darth Sion

the mysterious 'Revanchist Leader' actually becomes Revan

the characters of Krynda Draay, Kreia, Arren Kae, and Darth Traya are all tied together somehow

The as of yet unnamed Admiral of the Fleet or the Supreme Chancellor turns out to be an older Captain Vanicus from Tales of the Jedi (I really hope this one comes true)

Some of the Revanchists turn out to be the Jedi seen in the tomb vision in KotorII (Cariaga Sin, Nisotsa, ect)

At least one familiar face from Tales of the Jedi (likely Oss Willum, Tott Doneeta, Nomi or Vima Sunrider) will be seen again in the Kotor comics; or the final fate of one will be revealed in passing.

When Zayne gets back on Taris, he meets either Selven or the Ulgo family from Kotor 1.

Krynda Draay is the Covenant member who confesses, causing her to be exiled (and eventually become Darth Traya/Kreia)

The Jedi Knight Celeste Morne who helps Zayne will turn out to be the Jedi Exile from Kotor II: TSL....





Legacy Speculation
Darth Krayt meets K'Kruhk for the first time in a century

Krayt's Sith do turn on each other, but Talon and Cade either get redeemed or turn on Krayt together

Nyna Calixte eventually tries to betray Morlish Veed, but fails and is executed for treason

Talon and Shado Vao duel (again), neither win

The Jedi and the Yuuzhan Vong reveal how the Sith sabotaged the Ossus Project, causing a Civil War across the galaxy

Vergere will be shown in a future Legacy issue, where Krayt meets her during his captivity

Darth Nihil will attempt to usurp Krayt, perhaps even having Maladi side with him

Darth Andeddu's prediction that Krayt's Sith will turn on him will come true

Deliah Blue angrily confronts Cade about Talon

Krayt's Sith on Coruscant turn on each other (as Andeddu predicted), with Nihil and Maladi teaming up, Cade and Talon banding together against Krayt ending up with both Talon and Cade escaping and being redeemed, and Krayt having only Wyyrlokk and Strife remain loyal.




Darth Andeddu has some connection to this, as he first appeared in Republic, then Legacy, and the Darth name was known by the Jedi during the Kotor comics era (Darth Sunshine reference); all of which heavily influence the current stories.


The Force Unleashed Speculation:
Darth Phobas is revealed to have been a female Sith Lord from sometime between Bane and Plagueis.

The Secret Apprentice does not survive the game canonically

the Secret Apprentice finds and learns from the Holocron of Darth Phobas





Legacy novel speculation

Alema Rar becomes the apprentice of Darth Cadeus

Darth Vectivus' Holocron actually contains the financial information and secret plans of numerous Sith from Bane's order (essentially a step by step list of of how the Sith gradually grew during their isolation)

Luke and Jacen end up killing each other

Jaina Solo marries Jagged Fel, and their descendants start the Fel Dynasty

Gilad Pelleaon eventually passes away



generic speculation:
The Sith Lords Restoration Project mod will have at least a beta download available by the end of the year

generic comic speculation:
Darth Andeddu is revealed to have been one of the early Dark Lord's of the Sith Empire, and possibly one of the fallen Dark Jedi from the Hundred Year Darkness.

the Carbonite Sith Army will be sen again in some EU material

[Darth Massacrus]

a new series of novels to take place after the events of the final Legacy of the Force book has been announced. Here's some guesses as to what might happen in them:


Future novel series speculation:

Darth Cadeus is still alive at the end of the Legacy novel series

the Mandalorians are once again a major galactic power

Darth Cadeus does not become redeemed

Jaina and Jacen both survive their duel, and become bitter enemies

the Imperial Remnant also becomes a much stronger galactic power

Gilad Pelleaon passes on

James Luceno will write some of the novels

either Luke, Han, or Leia do not survive into this series

[csr74]

Don´t be so hard with yourself, you´ve made quite a good number of right guesses after all.:)

And i like them, seem very plausible to me, indeed. And i tend to agree with the Legacy ones...by the way that one of Zayne meeting the people from KOTOR 1 is still possible, i think.

Your guess on Caedus not being redeemed seems very likely to me.

[Darth Nameless]

any speculation on who Caedus's new apprentice will be if he does survive?..cause he will not be redeemed

[Sam Kenobi]

DM, your speculating that they are going to announce a new series, or they have and thats what you think will be in the new series?

[Darth Massacrus]

DM, your speculating that they are going to announce a new series, or they have and thats what you think will be in the new series?

So far I have not had any absolute confirmation that there will be a series of novels set after the Legacy books, but I have heard that it has been officially announced recently. However, I'm certain that there will be such a series within 2 years time, and the above list was made up of things I think will be in it.

As for who I think Caedus will take on as an apprentice, I'm not even sure he will take one on or not. Though if he does choose one, Tahiri Veila would not surprise me...

[Kapit]

Caedus is gonna die, so why worry about his apprentice? ;)

I posted this over in the LOTF Fury thread, but I guess this is the thread better suited for my idea of how LOTF could end and involve Beskar AND the Mandalorians!




Mandalore sells the Beskar to the Confederation, and for a while the Confederation (with Jedi help, of course) pushes the GA back so far that really all they have left to fend is Coruscant and a couple nearby systems. At this point, Niathal is really starting to butt heads with Caedus. Niathal wants to surrender, as they are in a dire situation, and obviously Caedus isn't happy with that. Niathal is either killed or disappears and quietly starts helping the Confederation (either way could work towards the same end).

All the while the GA is aware of the Beskar, and at this point Caedus is at his weakest and most frustrated, so what does he do? Plans an all-out assault of Mandalore. That's the end of Revelation.

Invincible would kick off with Mandalore being bombed like no other, and it's not just the Beskar plants: Just like teh Vong, Caedus is just leveling the planet. Boba is understandably pissed, and becomes even more so when he finds out that Mirta is among the dead. So Fett gets it in his mind that once the battle between the GA and the Confederation starts up, he'll take one of those fancy beskar fighters up and get onto the Anakin Solo. .

From here, there's just an all-out super battle between the GA and Confederation. Deaths on all sides. Craziness everywhere. Explosions, etc and so on. A Jedi task force storm the [I]AS to confront Caedus. A couple of em die, a couple are injured...the usual, ya know? Around this same time, Fett literally bursts through the AS (Beskar ship, impending death, grief...he doesn't much care anymore). They all confront Caedus, fights go on, more Jedi (and Boba) die, but not before getting their punches in on Caedus. Luke, Ben, Jaina, Leia, Han, and Caedus all have fun and eat cake...or whatever ending you wanna see.

[Darth Massacrus]

^:rockon:ooh, I like that, that's probably better than what will probably happen...

I think the whole Invincible title indicates that Caedus will still be alive at the end of the series, and will be victorious over all opposition to his rule. The whole final-massive-all out-epic-all or nothing battle in the final book that you suggest is a great idea, and one that ought to happen (the Invincible title could mean that Caedus is victorious in such a conflict)...

[DarthSolo]

Speculation on if Boba Fett survives LotF:

Karen Traviss is commissioned to pen a series (1-3 books) centering around Boba Fett and the Mandalorian nation.

A political party (I'm calling 'em the Crusader Party) convinces the people that the Mandalorians should take advantage of the post-civil war chaos the GA finds itself in. Boba Fett, against the idea, reluctantly gives into political pressure, but is uber-pissed at the Crusaders, but politically handcuffed and not wanting to run the Mandalorians into a civil war of their own.

Meanwhile, he's still trying to track all that clone stuff from LotF, all the while playing the role of Mandalore kicking ass on the front lines.

Eventually, the clone plot and the Crusader plot come together to help Boba solve both.

Ben Skywalker (Knighted by now), or another original or lesser known (Valin Horn?) Jedi Knight is a main character on the GA side. Fett eventually meets with said Jedi, surprising him into saying he wants a stop to the war. A plot it hatched to take down the Crusader masterminds and bring some peace.

Right before final battle, Fett names his successor "if I don't make it."

Fett goes out in a blaze of glory like none other, saving the day and bringing peace. The end.

Mind you, none of this happens if Boba dies in Revelation or Invincible.

[Sam Kenobi]

You know . . . I really like that! Haha :thumbs-up:

[Darth Massacrus]

The new Mandalorian series is a pretty good idea, actually, but I would want to see such a series that takes place before the Great Sith War, when the Taung Mndalorians hadn't even allied with Ulic Qel-Droma yet...

[Darth Nameless]

i like that series idea and i would like it if Karen Travis wrote it...she seems to like that whole side of SW...but i think her use of it was pointless in LoTF

[Morridini]

Just curious, anyone here reading Dark Times?
I've been considering picking it up, after all the Vector big event will also take place in Dark Times.
So is it any good?

[Sam Kenobi]

I've enjoyed it so far. Go for it.

[Darth Massacrus]

Legacy #19 preview is now available:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-778

Anyone want to guess at how this will end?

[Morridini]

Cool, Skywalker with Sith eyes, love to see that.

My guess: He'll not kill Nihil (I think that's his name, right?) and will turn on Krayt and make the cover happen, probably something will then explode into the temple, stop the fight, and they both live to fight another day.

[Darth Massacrus]

Cool, Skywalker with Sith eyes, love to see that.

My guess: He'll not kill Nihil (I think that's his name, right?) and will turn on Krayt and make the cover happen, probably something will then explode into the temple, stop the fight, and they both live to fight another day.

I get the feeling that this is exactly what will happen, only that Krayt kills Nihl for weakness and Talon ends up going with Cade...

[Darth Massacrus]

some early info on Legacy #'s 20-23 has been placed on Wookie. Assuming any of this is true (it likely is), who wants to guess at what'll happen?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legacy_20

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legacy_21

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legacy_22

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legacy_23

[csr74]

Well, after some time away, í´m back and will have a try:

1) Empire builds superweapon.

2) Rebels know about it.

3) Rebels launch daring attack to destroy it.

I know it won´t be like that, it´s too original and people like the same old stories retold....:wink:

Now a guess a bit weird but it could connect with the previous ones:

1) At some point Darth Krayt has managed to obtain a DNA sample of Xiaan Amersu.

2) Through some Sith Alchemy, he mixes it with his own, producing some Twi´lek result.

3) This Twi´lek is Darth Talon´s ancestor, thus Krayt becomes her Greatgrandfather of sorts.

4) Their relationship would explain why he treats her in a different way.

5) Perhaps he has plans to transform her into his heiress.

6) A betrayal from her would be specially painful for Krayt. And right now, anything short of instantaneous and complete obedience seems to qualify as treason in his view.

7) She does the aforementioned thing, or at least he thinks so.

8) He feels very hurt and decides to show that nobody can betray him and get away with it. Therefore, he plans to go Tarkin on Ryloth, using the aforementioned superweapon, which might have been only damaged in the (previous) Rebel attack.

9) The good guys (or at least the not so bad ones), attack the superweapon again and destroy it. Wether before or after it does its work, i don´t know.

[Darth Massacrus]

I get the feeling the mysterious superweapon (at least it probably is a superweapon) would be used by Krayt to take out Bastion and most of Roan Fel's forces. That way, he wouldn't have to waste his entire military trying to take Bastion,he would simply destroy it outright. Anyone want to guess what sort of 'superweaopn' Krayts building?

[Sam Kenobi]

Death Bantha

[Darth Nameless]

i would guess some sort of new center point station...he somehow found the secret of the first one and is now building it again...just a wild thought:)

[Darth Massacrus]

Hmm, this is the Legacy series, so Krayt may have drawn inspiration from Sith history:


Planetary Dark Reaper
New Star Forge
The Galaxy Gun II
supernova-causing crystals (as seen on Naga Sadow's ship)
something vong-related
an entirely new sort of weapon
some sort of combination of the above ideasanyone actually think Darth Krayt's mysterious construct might turn out to be something similar?

[Darth Nameless]

now that i think of it i bet it is something vong related...that makes more sence than a new centerpoint station

[csr74]

Vong related? How about a colossal (remember, this is the EMPIRE), world crushing Dovin Basal?

[Darth Massacrus]

Vong related? How about a colossal (remember, this is the EMPIRE), world crushing Dovin Basal?

it's the Sith-run Empire, so of course such a thing would be used to crush Roan Fel's forces on Bastion...

[csr74]

I guess the ultimate use of it would be that one, but i sitll think perhaps Ryloth will have to pay for Talon´s failure (and she will have to pay, too).

[Darth Massacrus]

I just got Legacy #19. The best SW revelation I can ever recall is in this issue. Go out and get it now. Do not go to wookiepedia until you do so. If you've been following Legacy, you will thank me for this advice.

Speaking of which, Nyna Calixte has suddenly become so much cooler...

[Morridini]

Ooh, hope my importer has it tomorrow.

[csr74]

Okey, what about some speculation?

Gunn Yage will have to run away from Coruscant with the rest of the Skulls in order to avoid vengeance from the Sith for their passivity. She ends up in Bastion and blows up the aforementioned superweapon.

[Darth Massacrus]

Okey, what about some speculation?

Gunn Yage will have to run away from Coruscant with the rest of the Skulls in order to avoid vengeance from the Sith for their passivity. She ends up in Bastion and blows up the aforementioned superweapon.

The mysterious construct is nowhere near Bastion. But speaking of Gunn Yage, something tells me a future issue could possibly have her, Cade, Moff Yage, plus the crew of the Mynock and Skull Squadron all meeting up...

[Darth Massacrus]

As for who I think Caedus will take on as an apprentice, I'm not even sure he will take one on or not. Though if he does choose one, Tahiri Veila would not surprise me...[/quote]

Don't get to quote myself to often, but something here seems rather prophetic, in light of recent news...

[csr74]

Perhaps i haven´t explained it well, i tried to mean that she escaped to Bastion first and afterwards she would get involved in the destruction of the superweapon (wherever it was).

[Darth Massacrus]

Forgot all abut this thread. Luckily I remembered, just in time to announce that I am guessing that Luke will die in Invincible. I'm calling it.

[DarthSolo]

Dunno if these items have been brought up yet, but I was skimming a site I use for upcoming releases, and found a few interesting things. Here's the site (I forget who, but someone on this site referred me to it): http://www.starwarstimeline.com/sources%20-%20upcoming.htm

The things I found interesting: July 29, 2008 has a book scheduled by Karen Traviss, with no specific details, no title, no nothing, cept a page count (272). I'm guessing another Republic Commando book? But Traviss is scheduled to publish "Republic Commando: Order 66" in September. So, what other project is our Mando-loving author working on? Perhaps a Boba Fett LOTF tie in, to explain what the hell he was doing when Allston and Denning were forgetting about him? Looks like we've got more Mando one way or another.

Also, November 25, 2008 has an author named Karen Miller slated to write a book. Again, no details were given but a 272 page count. I didn't recognize the author name, so I looked it up. She's a fantasy author who has also written for the StarGate series. http://www.karenmiller.net/ I have no clue what this one could be. Perhaps the beginning of a project post-LOTF?

So, what do y'all think?

[Darth Nameless]

of course travis is going to do another mando book...however i am glad to hear of a different author taking on a SW book...weather its post LOTF or any other time is fine...just cant wait to see what she brings to the table

[Darth Massacrus]

Dunno if these items have been brought up yet, but I was skimming a site I use for upcoming releases, and found a few interesting things. Here's the site (I forget who, but someone on this site referred me to it): http://www.starwarstimeline.com/sources%20-%20upcoming.htm

The things I found interesting: July 29, 2008 has a book scheduled by Karen Traviss, with no specific details, no title, no nothing, cept a page count (272). I'm guessing another Republic Commando book? But Traviss is scheduled to publish "Republic Commando: Order 66" in September. So, what other project is our Mando-loving author working on? Perhaps a Boba Fett LOTF tie in, to explain what the hell he was doing when Allston and Denning were forgetting about him? Looks like we've got more Mando one way or another.

Also, November 25, 2008 has an author named Karen Miller slated to write a book. Again, no details were given but a 272 page count. I didn't recognize the author name, so I looked it up. She's a fantasy author who has also written for the StarGate series. http://www.karenmiller.net/ I have no clue what this one could be. Perhaps the beginning of a project post-LOTF?

So, what do y'all think?

I have three guesses on the Karen Traviss book, all seem equally likely:

a Dictionary of the Mandalorian language (Mando-Basic)
a novel relating to Mandalorians during the Vong war
something entirely unpredictableThe Karen (man, lots of Karens writing Star Wars lately) Miller book might be a post-Legacy story. Or, it might not even be a novel at all, but a reference book or the like. Honestly, I cannot guess.

[DarthSolo]

Well, the site I looked at usually indicates if it was a reference book or something like that, so I'm guessing that the Karen Miller book isn't a reference. She is a novelist, after all.

[Darth Massacrus]

Well, the site I looked at usually indicates if it was a reference book or something like that, so I'm guessing that the Karen Miller book isn't a reference. She is a novelist, after all.

That was the feeling I got. This might be the first time I cannot even begin to guess at what the novel will be about, though.

[Ripley]

So who wants to take bets on the "Jacen Solo dead or not" question?

[Darth Nameless]

ill take that bet...he lives...something tells me that is how they are going to play this out

[Darth Massacrus]

So who wants to take bets on the "Jacen Solo dead or not" question?

The 'Invincible' title seems to mean that Jacen will survive against everything.

[csr74]

The 'Invincible' title seems to mean that Jacen will survive against everything.

Or that he believes that...:wink:

I think he´s dead meat.


On the Karen Miller book....perhaps something about the origins of the Muur Talisman?

[Darth Apotheosus]

The Karen (man, lots of Karens writing Star Wars lately)

If I changed my first name to Karen, maybe that would give my manuscript a leg up with LucasBooks?

[Darth Massacrus]

If I changed my first name to Karen, maybe that would give my manuscript a leg up with LucasBooks?

It certainly would give you better chances than 'Vonda' would...

[Darth Massacrus]

Random speculation: More about Tulak Hord will be revealed in the Kotor Campaign Guide from Wizards later this year

[DarthSolo]

According to something posted here: http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=9033&page=34 the Karen Traviss and Karen Miller books I brought up a couple weeks ago are probably tied into the Clone Wars 3D animation stuff.

[Darth Massacrus]

According to something posted here: http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=9033&page=34 the Karen Traviss and Karen Miller books I brought up a couple weeks ago are probably tied into the Clone Wars 3D animation stuff.

That makes perfect sense, actually....

I get the feeling you're probably right, DS. Though, personally, I feel that theres been too much Clone Wars EU stuff...

[DarthSolo]

I agree with you completely there!