Legacy of the Force: Fury

[shive4]

I was looking on a book clubs website to see when fury was coming out. At the bottom of the book it told u a little about the book kinda like a teaser, this is what it said...

The civil war is growing bloodier and complicated. at the Wookie homeworld, Han and Leia Organa Solo are fighting the fire storm set by their son, when out of no where they are attacked by the insane former jedi, Alema Rar. alema is the prime suspect in the murder of Mara jade skywalker, and Jaina Solo, the jedi and their allies are determined to hunt her down and make her pay.....unaware that they are chasing the wrong target.........

when did alema kill janina? did i skip some chapters in inferno? or have they gave away some information in the prologue about fury on their site?

[Orandhite]

I read it a different way: that Jaina, the Jedi and the their allies are hunting her

rather than: murder of Mara Jade and Jaina.

Although I have not read much EU, so I may be wrong...

[Master_Kinnon]

Jaina was still alive at the end of Inferno.

[Sam Kenobi]

I read it a different way: that Jaina, the Jedi and the their allies are hunting her

rather than: murder of Mara Jade and Jaina.

Although I have not read much EU, so I may be wrong...

This is correct.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Jaina is still breathing in the Inferno and I don't think she will give up her life that easily...Maybe Jag Fel or Zekk will ended up dying to safe her from Alema or Jacen.

[Sam Kenobi]

When is this book due on shelves?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

November 11... I think.

[Sam Kenobi]

Okeday. Thanks.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

:)...
If wrong... Sorry.

[Sam Kenobi]

It's all good. :)

[Master_Kinnon]

End of November in the UK

[JacenSolo12]

Yes, unfortunately the ignorant, annoying and spoiled Jaina Solo was not killed in Inferno, but we still have three more books for Caedus or Ben to finally rid the Star Wars world of her constant whining.

[Luvinna]

November 11... I think.
It won't be the 11th because that's a Sunday and books are released on Tuesdays. Amazon says Nov. 27th (which is a Tuesday).

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^ Really???
Thanks!!!!

[Arica]

Fury is due out the Tuesday after Thanksgiving which is the 27th. Maybe just maybe Luvinna will take pity on me and we could look at her local wallmart over thanksgiving. :) If not I have other ways to entertain myself on the plane.

[Luvinna]

Yes, we can check at Wal-Mart while you're here. It's maybe a mile from my house. You could walk there if you had to. But you might want to cross your fingers, because they didn't have Inferno early. Actually, I never checked to see if they ever had it.

[Zedekk]

Can't wait for this to come out!!

[DarthSolo]

Man, I got all excited when I looked at the Release Schedule in this forum and it said the book was out yesterday! Few more weeks...

[Master_Kinnon]

Dunno if anyones read the spoilers for this, and I ain't gonna post them to ruin it, but what a **** up Randon House made!

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Spoilers??? I want!!!!

[Master_Kinnon]

No, not gonna post spoilers here 'cause it's pretty crap.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

NOOOOOOOOOOO... Please, don't say the LOTF is crap.

[Master_Kinnon]

I never said it was...but it's crap for me to post spoilers on this thread if people don't want to read them. If you wanna see them then you should go looking for them.

[Master Magnus]

I never said it was...but it's crap for me to post spoilers on this thread if people don't want to read them. If you wanna see them then you should go looking for them.
You can post spoilers as long as you use the spoiler tags:

This is a spoiler.

[eddie]

Man, I got all excited when I looked at the Release Schedule in this forum and it said the book was out yesterday! Few more weeks...

That's because the schedule is way out of date!!!!! For a more accurate one, visit:

http://www.starwarstimeline.com/sources%20-%20upcoming.htm

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Spoilers..............SPOILERS!

May I post it?

[Master_Kinnon]

I suppose as long as you use the spoiler tags Magnus suggested that's the main thing. I just don't wanna post incase I put the spoiler tags wrong (I tried it once before and messed it up, lol).

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^ LOL

I heard there is someone will tell Jaina that he loves her, either Zekk or Jag... Maybe... If wrong, forgive me.

[Master_Kinnon]

From what I've read that's right, though that ain't even the half of it!

[jedimasterElizabeth]

That's means I got the wrong info? Nooooooooooooo....

[Master_Kinnon]

No you have it correct, what I mean, is that there's a whole load of more stuff out there lol

[jedimasterElizabeth]

You got some stuff? Spit it out!

[Master_Kinnon]

Lol nope sorry, but if you do a google search then you'll find loads of stuff.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR..... I am so desperate for the book! It is only weeks away!

[jedimasterElizabeth]

This spoiler will either shock you in happiness or sadness.

Alema Rar is dead in the Fury. Killed by Jag Fel, if I am not mistaken.

Well?

[DarthSolo]

I'm a spoiler addict. Man I wish I hadn't read that!

[Zedekk]

I don't read spoilers for books I wait for it to come out.

[Luvinna]

This spoiler will either shock you in happiness or sadness.

Alema Rar is dead in the Fury. Killed by Jag Fel, if I am not mistaken.

Well?
If that's true, it's been a long time coming! I so hope it's true! Not that I plan on reading the book... Arica will tell me all about it. :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^^^ Oh, you shouldn't

^ Well, yes it is true. I got it from the wookieepedia.

[Arica]

Oh please let it be true!! The buggy Psycho Jedi needs to go!!

[Master_Kinnon]

Yeah it's true lol, I've read the passage where it happens. FINALLY!

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^ OMG!!! You got the book?

Who wants more spoilers?

[Ripley]

^ OMG!!! You got the book?

Who wants more spoilers?
I want the spoiler where Darth Stupid is eaten alive by angry ewoks and Lumiya's undying spirit, but the potential spectre of DarthSolo's eternal tears makes me a bit leary. :innocent:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^LOL
Han and Leia knew about their bloodlines with Allana

[Son Of Skywalker]

I don't read spoilers for books I wait for it to come out.

Same here. Hopefully the book is as people are saying it is, which, I'm sure it will be. :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

FURY! FURY! FURY! FURY! FURY!!!!! IT is OUT!!!

Now, can we start another thread about Revelation? :w00t:

[Master_Kinnon]

*sigh* my copy of Fury came through the door this morning...I'm so happy....

[jedimasterElizabeth]

*Force Choke herself.

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..... I still need to wait for this Saturday to buy it at MPH! "

How was it?

[Arica]

Hi! Im so sorry that you have to wait until saturday. I got mine last night. Heres to crossing your fingers about the book being as good as everyone has been saying it is.

Happy reading everyone. :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I can't wait to cuddle it in my sleep. :w00t:

Patience, Elizabeth. Patience... And for the rest of the fans, enjoy!

[Luvinna]

So... Who's going to be the first one to tell me what happens? :innocent:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Although I haven't buy the book but I know what happen.

Luke and Jacen are having a dogfight for Allana

[Master_Kinnon]

It's a good book, definitely one of the best so far IMO.

[Arica]

Luv Me of Course!! Im your best friend. I will tell you first. :) (runs off to read more fury)

[Lord Tesla]

Well, I've read the first three chapters, and, so far...

Fury is...

Snorry. The only excitement so far has been when I momentarily (okay, several-moments-tarily) couldn't remember key portions of the previous volume, and thought I had either suffered some kind of Neurological Event, or had developed Acute OldTimer's Disease...

But I'm sure the book will pick up; Allston usually writes well, and there are roughly 320 pages yet for things o happen.

[Ripley]

So... Who's going to be the first one to tell me what happens? :innocent:
The big reveal is that Jacen, much like his mother, had his blood replaced by cocaine via an IV since he's too stupid to put nose to coke.

[JacenSolo12]

Overrall I liked Fury but have I do have one BIG problem with it. Jacen's kills are being denied. Kam brought back to life is just stupid and Tionne is supposed to be in captivity. Katarn should have died and would somebody KILL JAINA SOLO (seriously, she thinks training with Fett will help her). Saba I have no problem with because she is too cool to kill.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Can anyone tell me about Zekk , Jaina and Jag? I heard something happening... And I haven't reach there yet. LOL. TELL ME!!!

[Arica]

Hi all. Just finished Fury. Overall not my favorite. It didnt start getting exciting and good until the end but thats okay and I read the sneak preview of Revalation. And I can not WAIT until that books comes out. Sounds like its going to be a good one in spite of. Well... :xmas::sidxmas:

Anyway Ill see you guys later.


A

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Revelation!? It's going to be months away! I want that book!

[Arica]

Yeah. I just got back from Amazon.com and it is a long way out. it comes out Feb 26. After my birthday. I was hoping it would be the begining of Feburary. Darn. :leiaxmas:

[JackBauer24]

I actually dug Fury. I thought it was pretty cool. I just have one question. When did Lando become Tony Randall? Isn't he a little old to be havin kids?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^:rofl:

That's true! LOL

[Darth Nameless]

i loved this book too...how ever i didnt start reading the series till inferno came out...so i got to read all of them back to back....now what in blazes am i suppose to do till the next book??? life is cruel:mad:

[DarthSolo]

Just finished Fury. My thoughts: good overall, enjoyable, if a bit predictable, but good. Especially good set up for the last two books.


Thank God Alema is dead! Thank God Centerpoint is gone! Those were two of the more obnoxious but necessary plots in this series.

The set up of Jaina training with Boba Fett (see the Revelation preview at the end) is exciting. I'm glad that Boba is going to be legitimately tied in to the series as a whole. Finally.

All the action was awesome. This was a pretty action packed book. Right into Allston's hands.

Little bit unbelievable that no less than three characters escaped death by like a centimeter. Kyle Katarn, Jag Fel, and Saba Sebatyne. One got a lightsaber through his chest but it just missed his heart, one flew on a mini-jet pack out of an exploding asteroid though he was completely physically shattered, and one avoided the edge of an explosion and put the fire on her body out. Um...


That is all.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I just can't believe that Kyle survived!

[RedMirax]

I liked the book. Haven't been able to say that in a while! I have no spoilers, but I did like the slight mention of Starfighters of Adumar! I love that book!! :)

[DarthSolo]

I just can't believe that Kyle survived!
Yeah, me too. But, I guess it's always good to avoid the international union of star wars gamers going up in arms...

Oh, and one other thing, I thought the last moments of Alema's life were very well written. I figured it would be Denning to kill her, being that he created her, but Allston handled it very well.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

LOL. That's the point!
Alema's dead is simple. And first, I thought that it was Jaina who killed her! Plus, who is Jaina's lover in the book, huh? I am getting tired of Jaina being a single! She is 30 something already!

[Zedekk]

I finally finished it and I must say it was enjoyable for the most part

YES that crazy b!tch Alema is dead nothing in this book could improved the plot other than that event happening. How many of you loved the fact that Jag did it?

Corellia elected another dumb-ass for Prime Minister and he died. Yes! it isn't a Star Wars: Legacy of the Force book if a Corellian leader doesn't die.

The whole "welcome back to Endor" thing was nice. Takes out alot of [having-to-explain-the-world-they-are-on] stuff and get to the point of the story.

Sith "Concil" on Korriban and their agent hunting Alema seemed a bit uneccessary and it just seemed to me that it was in there because they are going to mention it in another book and don't want you to forget about the fact that they are there kind of ploy.

the Solos as grandparents, well I'm glad that family secret is out. :happydance:

Karen Traviss is up next that means Boba is taking over again. At least another main character from the Jedi will be included in the story-line this time... can't wait, can't wait.

[DarthSolo]

lol, oh yeah, another thought which Zeddek spurred in me, how many freakin' PMs are the Corellians gonna go through? Seriously, we're talkin' record numbers here, people!

[Zedekk]

How awesome was it when Darth Cadeous choked and killed that female officer in true Vader style? I was like: Hells yeah now he's a true sith! I bet that he'll be announcing his Sith name in the next book and be using the lightsaber with a red blade as well. I hope he gets a new cape.

Yeah DS those PM drop like flies. I wonder if any author will be brave enough to write in a good stable and strong leader for Corellia anytime soon. It's getting tiresome in a way, but is still amusing.

[Sam Kenobi]

I just finished Death Star. I'll be starting on Fury now.

[JediDad]

Just thought I'd throw a few comments out there after reading Fury. These comments are often stream of consciousness in terms of wording and grammar, and sometimes overstate my opinion a bit...if you disagree or I missed something, fire away and let me know!

Glad Alema Rar is dead. That character, along with others, was ruined during those gawd-awful bug books.

The whole Force-phantom thing seemed like a cheap writers trick to me. Ooh, let's set up this quasi-mystical Jedi/Sith technique where someone can send a physical image of themselves anywhere they want, link the image to some being in the local area where if the heroes kill this "phantom" it impacts the linked being negatively somehow (although this is never explained - if it was, and I just missed it, let me know)

I liked the return to Endor, and Luke finally letting go of his grief and engaging again was handled well, but what was that whole, let's have a Jedi war council where we decide how to go after Jacen, but let's have the discussion while hacking at each other with lightsabers as part of some Jedi-fight training. I know some folks love all action all the time, but this made no sense to me...nothing wrong with the Jedi seated around a table discussing how to proceed...makes much more sense.

One last question, who was that supposed to be a picture of on the cover of the book? Seems to young to be Jacen, doesn't look like Ben, who was barely in the book, who was it supposed to be?

[Zedekk]

I thought Ben was on the cover?

[DarthSolo]

Just thought I'd throw a few comments out there after reading Fury. These comments are often stream of consciousness in terms of wording and grammar, and sometimes overstate my opinion a bit...if you disagree or I missed something, fire away and let me know!

Glad Alema Rar is dead. That character, along with others, was ruined during those gawd-awful bug books.

The whole Force-phantom thing seemed like a cheap writers trick to me. Ooh, let's set up this quasi-mystical Jedi/Sith technique where someone can send a physical image of themselves anywhere they want, link the image to some being in the local area where if the heroes kill this "phantom" it impacts the linked being negatively somehow (although this is never explained - if it was, and I just missed it, let me know)

I liked the return to Endor, and Luke finally letting go of his grief and engaging again was handled well, but what was that whole, let's have a Jedi war council where we decide how to go after Jacen, but let's have the discussion while hacking at each other with lightsabers as part of some Jedi-fight training. I know some folks love all action all the time, but this made no sense to me...nothing wrong with the Jedi seated around a table discussing how to proceed...makes much more sense.

One last question, who was that supposed to be a picture of on the cover of the book? Seems to young to be Jacen, doesn't look like Ben, who was barely in the book, who was it supposed to be?
Wow, I think I agreed with everything you said.

And I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Jacen, but I don't know for sure.

[RedMirax]

I think it's supposed to be Jacen, too, but he looks way too young.

[TuskenRaider1]

Its supposed to be Ben In the scene where they go to get Allana from Jacen, Luke looks at each team member and their descriptions are given. Ben is half GAG soldier, half black Jedi attire, looking neither, with a high neck line. The cover accd to SW.com is Ben, but they made him a blond, not a red, which doesnt fit his description. Grr.. little things like that should matter.

[RedMirax]

^Yes they should matter!

[DarthSolo]

I concur. It was the hair color that threw me.

[Arica]

Grrr Dont get me started about the cover of Fury. Yes. Its Ben Not the Sith Idiot. Alot of people think it was the lighting that made his hair that color. Me personally I think they made him blond because some people who shall remain nameless dont like a certain person so therefore why would they give him his true hair color.

Sorry. Its a sore point with me. :vaderxmas:

[Zedekk]

Grrr Dont get me started about the cover of Fury. Yes. Its Ben Not the Sith Idiot. Alot of people think it was the lighting that made his hair that color. Me personally I think they made him blond because some people who shall remain nameless dont like a certain person so therefore why would they give him his true hair color.

Sorry. Its a sore point with me. :vaderxmas:
No how do you really feel about it Arica? Come on you can tell me.

[Darth Nameless]

ok ill be the one who ask...why is it a sore spot? :wink:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

What's wrong with Ben??? For me, he is quite nice. He played his character well. :innocent:

[Darth Nameless]

i think he can act a little older than he does...hes what now 13 or 14 now...anakin solo was his age killing vong

[jedimasterElizabeth]

HE cannot do 'that' cause' his father is watching him every steps, fearing that he will go to the Darkside because of his revenge for Mara.

[Darth Nameless]

i guess your right now that Luke is now his master and he is just the learner...but i still think he could loose the whole golly gee type attitude IMO

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Really! I agree.... SO... You can't blame him for 'not in action'. LOL

[Darth Nameless]

your right i cant blame him for that lol

[Arica]

Nothings wrong with Ben. I like ben. I was refuring to his mother. Certain people who shall remain nameless (And no its not me) didnt like her so why would they give Ben his true hair color.


Sorry about the confusion.:superhappy:

Oh and its a sore spot with me because if you think about it almost every character in the starwars universe looks like their parents. For an example. Leia looks like her Mom. Luke looks like Anakin. Allanna looks like Tenel Ka etc etc I thought it was cool to have a character that broke that particular thing, rule, what ever you want to call it. Ben looks and takes after Mara not Luke. Except for his eyes. Actually I dont know what color his eyes are. I dont know if anyone has ever said, but I know they're not green.

[Zedekk]

so wait you're happy that Ben looks like his mom, but you have a sore point for anyone else looking like their parents? :confused: I don't get it.

[Darth Nameless]

im lost on that one too lol

[RedMirax]

Personally I think red hair is the only way to go! ;) :) LOL

[Arica]

No.. I have a sore point with the designers and other people who did the cover of Fury because they gave Ben blonde hair instead of red. Ben broke the mold. Then they screw it up by making his hair blonde.

And I dont mind everyone else looking like their parents. I just thought it was nice to have a boy look like his mom for once instead of his dad. Thats all.

And I agree. Red hair rules.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I agree with the RED HAIRS RULES. :superhappy:

[Darth Nameless]

i have a red beard..does that count?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

:rofl: OK...

[Darth Nameless]

SWEET!!!! :yeah:

[Sam Kenobi]

So . . .

Did anyone else notice in the preview for Revelation, that Ben thinks Qui-Gon killed a Sith on Naboo . . . yeah.

Anways, thoughs:

I hate to say it, I do, but I dunno about this next book. I love the RC books . . . but the LotF that Traviss has written, in comparisson to Allston and Dennings . . . different levels. It is distracting, the constant switching. And looking back on it . . . Mara's death doesn't sit well with me. Especially after that interview with Zahn that I read. I mean . . . someone else said it better than I could, but it lacked the blow that Anakin and Chewie's did in the NJO. They had good, moving deaths. If that makes sense. Ben (who was hardly in Fury) seems like a different character.

Anywho, I enjoyed Fury. I could hardly put it down. But it didn't feel like it established much in this series. The plot hardly moved forward. Allana was kidnapped and returned by the end of the book. The only two things that happened was Alema's death and Centerpoint's destruction. Oh, and Jacen finely blowing his load and killing someone. Otherwise, the war rages on, and everyone wants Jacen's head. Again with the Traviss books, but they just threw in the Jaina gets trained by Boba plotline at the end. It wasn't really established at all.

I enjoyed seeing old Allston characters come back. Tycho, Wedge, Janson . . . but where was Hobbie? I would have really enjoyed some SoA humor, especially on Endor! Haha. And I noticed, in Rakehell squadron . . . Eight. One of the pilots who was either KIA or EVA . . . Cherris ke Hanadi (onetime head vibroblade instructor for Starfighter Command). That's the girl from SoA, correct?

I don't quite get how Jacen doesn't suspect Tycho of anything. So he was chasing his shuttle, and then "snuck" in front of it into the hanger and . . . I dunno. Can someone explain it?

That was nice of Han to comm Artoo and tell him to extract, too. He's grown fond of the droids.

Someone else mentioned the writer's robbing Jacen of his kills. Kam, Tionne, and Kyle. I agree, kinda. Kam and Tionne . . . should have gone. Kyle was fine. Save him. He deserves more booktime.

Anyways, I think that's all I got.

[RedMirax]

So . . .

Did anyone else notice in the preview for Revelation, that Ben thinks Qui-Gon killed a Sith on Naboo . . . yeah.

Anways, thoughs:

I hate to say it, I do, but I dunno about this next book. I love the RC books . . . but the LotF that Traviss has written, in comparisson to Allston and Dennings . . . different levels. It is distracting, the constant switching. And looking back on it . . . Mara's death doesn't sit well with me. Especially after that interview with Zahn that I read. I mean . . . someone else said it better than I could, but it lacked the blow that Anakin and Chewie's did in the NJO. They had good, moving deaths. If that makes sense. Ben (who was hardly in Fury) seems like a different character.

Anywho, I enjoyed Fury. I could hardly put it down. But it didn't feel like it established much in this series. The plot hardly moved forward. Allana was kidnapped and returned by the end of the book. The only two things that happened was Alema's death and Centerpoint's destruction. Oh, and Jacen finely blowing his load and killing someone. Otherwise, the war rages on, and everyone wants Jacen's head. Again with the Traviss books, but they just threw in the Jaina gets trained by Boba plotline at the end. It wasn't really established at all.

I enjoyed seeing old Allston characters come back. Tycho, Wedge, Janson . . . but where was Hobbie? I would have really enjoyed some SoA humor, especially on Endor! Haha. And I noticed, in Rakehell squadron . . . Eight. One of the pilots who was either KIA or EVA . . . Cherris ke Hanadi (onetime head vibroblade instructor for Starfighter Command). That's the girl from SoA, correct?

I don't quite get how Jacen doesn't suspect Tycho of anything. So he was chasing his shuttle, and then "snuck" in front of it into the hanger and . . . I dunno. Can someone explain it?

That was nice of Han to comm Artoo and tell him to extract, too. He's grown fond of the droids.

Someone else mentioned the writer's robbing Jacen of his kills. Kam, Tionne, and Kyle. I agree, kinda. Kam and Tionne . . . should have gone. Kyle was fine. Save him. He deserves more booktime.

Anyways, I think that's all I got.


I was wondering about Hobbie myself! Cherris was the girl in SoA that had a crush on Wedge AND I seem to remember having some vertigo problems that kept her from flying on Adumar, but Wedge told her there were meds for that. She must have been on the meds. Yes, there would have been GREAT Wes humor on Endor!!!!

I kind of like Kam and Tionne and are glad they are still alive. :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

NOOOO! I love Kam and Tionne! :(

[DarthSolo]

So . . .

Did anyone else notice in the preview for Revelation, that Ben thinks Qui-Gon killed a Sith on Naboo . . . yeah.

Anways, thoughs:

I hate to say it, I do, but I dunno about this next book. I love the RC books . . . but the LotF that Traviss has written, in comparisson to Allston and Dennings . . . different levels. It is distracting, the constant switching. And looking back on it . . . Mara's death doesn't sit well with me. Especially after that interview with Zahn that I read. I mean . . . someone else said it better than I could, but it lacked the blow that Anakin and Chewie's did in the NJO. They had good, moving deaths. If that makes sense. Ben (who was hardly in Fury) seems like a different character.

Anywho, I enjoyed Fury. I could hardly put it down. But it didn't feel like it established much in this series. The plot hardly moved forward. Allana was kidnapped and returned by the end of the book. The only two things that happened was Alema's death and Centerpoint's destruction. Oh, and Jacen finely blowing his load and killing someone. Otherwise, the war rages on, and everyone wants Jacen's head. Again with the Traviss books, but they just threw in the Jaina gets trained by Boba plotline at the end. It wasn't really established at all.

I enjoyed seeing old Allston characters come back. Tycho, Wedge, Janson . . . but where was Hobbie? I would have really enjoyed some SoA humor, especially on Endor! Haha. And I noticed, in Rakehell squadron . . . Eight. One of the pilots who was either KIA or EVA . . . Cherris ke Hanadi (onetime head vibroblade instructor for Starfighter Command). That's the girl from SoA, correct?

I don't quite get how Jacen doesn't suspect Tycho of anything. So he was chasing his shuttle, and then "snuck" in front of it into the hanger and . . . I dunno. Can someone explain it?

That was nice of Han to comm Artoo and tell him to extract, too. He's grown fond of the droids.

Someone else mentioned the writer's robbing Jacen of his kills. Kam, Tionne, and Kyle. I agree, kinda. Kam and Tionne . . . should have gone. Kyle was fine. Save him. He deserves more booktime.

Anyways, I think that's all I got.

Yeah, I caught the Qui-Gon screw up, too. I guess it's one of those things that can be explained away, but...come on guys.

As far as the rest of what you said, I agree mostly, but...

I'm not so negative on the "lack" of plot movement. With a nine book series, it's difficult to have major movements in every book. I think Alema's death and Centerpoint's destruction were pretty big ones. Alema's death frees up Han, Leia, Jaina, Jag, and Zekk from hunting her, which is the end of an entire plot line (the beginning of a new one). Centerpoint, while it's plot could've been developed more throughout, is an important happening. And I think Jaina's character development in this book (not counting her decision to train with Boba) was really important. That's some major foreshadowing to Invincible. Mark my words.

[Sam Kenobi]

Oh, I'm not saying I disliked the book, not at all. I just felt the same before as I did after reading it. Not the same with Inferno, though. Inferno had a bigger cliffhanger.

And I understand that not every book can end like that, either. It's all good.

And I'm thinking your right about the forshadowing.

Lastly . . . because I'm reading RC: TC right now . . . Maybe it's obvious . . . or explainable, but KT doesn't seem like she knows as much about Star Wars as other authors. Like the Qui-Gon bit, or some things in RCTC that just seem a little odd. Anyone else get that feeling?

[Darth Nameless]

i agree...so far i like all but KTs books...she doesnt seem to know or care about the rest of the SW universe...just about Boba Fett

[Sam Kenobi]

Nice lady, though. Haha, I have met her. It's constructive criticism.

[Master Magnus]

i agree...so far i like all but KTs books...she doesnt seem to know or care about the rest of the SW universe...just about Boba Fett
So true. While I haven't read that very much of the Legacy-era novels, I'm just waiting to see if the Mandalorians are coming to save the day with their invincible ships made out of Mandalorian iron, or otherwise a third of Sacrifice was superfluous. The rest of the Legacy authors largely ignores the Mandalorian stuff anyway, haven't they?

[Darth Nameless]

they have...the only time its mentioned is in KT books...and it takes the whole book

[Darth Nameless]

however...they are still great books

[Darth Nameless]

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!:cheers:

[Zedekk]

^:cheers:

[JacenSolo12]

I have always had a big problem with KT's books in LotF (Hard Contact was okay but I have not interest in clones). I have never until reading Bloodlines and Sacrifice actually wanted to skip ahead in an EU book. I don't think she has any respect for Star Wars other than Mandos (they become boring after a while). I wish Stover (author of Traitor) was the third part of the trio.

Also the whole Jaina learning from Fett plotline is just stupid. If Luke (as in Luke Skywalker) can't kill Jacen then how can the biggest idiot in Star Wars do it. I predict that Traviss will have a Jacen-Boba fight in the Revelation with an end result of Fett in 2 force lightning burned pieces. Denning will have Jacen kills Jaina in front of his parents and then fends off Luke and the other masters killing a few (not Corran or Saba) then takes Allana with him to Zonama Sekot and lives with the Vong. Nobody sees him again. Oh and eradicates all the Sith on Korriban just because he can.

I may have gotten carried away.

[Zedekk]

I have always had a big problem with KT's books in LotF (Hard Contact was okay but I have not interest in clones). I have never until reading Bloodlines and Sacrifice actually wanted to skip ahead in an EU book. I don't think she has any respect for Star Wars other than Mandos (they become boring after a while). I wish Stover (author of Traitor) was the third part of the trio.

Also the whole Jaina learning from Fett plotline is just stupid. If Luke (as in Luke Skywalker) can't kill Jacen then how can the biggest idiot in Star Wars do it. I predict that Traviss will have a Jacen-Boba fight in the Revelation with an end result of Fett in 2 force lightning burned pieces. Denning will have Jacen kills Jaina in front of his parents and then fends off Luke and the other masters killing a few (not Corran or Saba) then takes Allana with him to Zonama Sekot and lives with the Vong. Nobody sees him again. Oh and eradicates all the Sith on Korriban just because he can.

I may have gotten carried away.
^ :lol: .... :blink: waitaminute, I actually see that happening as well...

I hope to god Karin gets the chance to write her "tome of the Mandos". She can mess around with those guys all she wants and have fun with it, just leave the Jedi out of it, and any of the main characters as well. (Don't need anyone else dying off in an unspectacular manner) :confused: a poisoned dart :confused:

[Darth Nameless]

if it were up to her...she would have Boba kill Luke for letting jacen kill his daughter...the he finds a whole platoon of clones that survived and tries takes over the republic...after reading just a few of her books i see something like that happening...thank god there are 2 other authors to keep her in check...and i have to agree...one of the most powerful jedi in the galaxy dies with a dart?!?!?! next thing you know...jaina will lob off and arm in a lightsaber accedent!

[DarthSolo]

I have always had a big problem with KT's books in LotF (Hard Contact was okay but I have not interest in clones). I have never until reading Bloodlines and Sacrifice actually wanted to skip ahead in an EU book. I don't think she has any respect for Star Wars other than Mandos (they become boring after a while). I wish Stover (author of Traitor) was the third part of the trio.

Also the whole Jaina learning from Fett plotline is just stupid. If Luke (as in Luke Skywalker) can't kill Jacen then how can the biggest idiot in Star Wars do it. I predict that Traviss will have a Jacen-Boba fight in the Revelation with an end result of Fett in 2 force lightning burned pieces. Denning will have Jacen kills Jaina in front of his parents and then fends off Luke and the other masters killing a few (not Corran or Saba) then takes Allana with him to Zonama Sekot and lives with the Vong. Nobody sees him again. Oh and eradicates all the Sith on Korriban just because he can.

I may have gotten carried away.
If Stover replaced Traviss that would be a dream come true. Who better to write a deep, dark, series with Jacen Solo at the center than the man who made Jacen the hero that he was. I would've liked to see Stover open the series with Jacen's seduction to darkness, as that man probably knows Jacen better than any other author. Though, I'd also have liked to see Stover close it...but Denning can handle that.

Your predictions...yeah, I doubt it. I can see the Boba-Jacen fight, but I think Caedus will be redeemed by his sister/luke/ben in the end, but will die, much like Vader.

[Arica]

Jacen better not be redeemed!!! Thats all I got to say about it.

[Kapit]

Jacen cannot be redeemed. Screw them fanboys that want to see it happen, it's not gonna happen.

While he's definitely following in the footsteps of Vader, he doesn't have the Luke to save....Unless you think the Uber-Sith are going to get involved and kidnap Allana and take her to Zonoma Sekot in order to doubly provoke Jacen into all sorts of shiz. That'll set up the final book in which we have the epic showdown to end all showdowns (so they'll say) between Luke, Jacen, Jaina, Ben, and maybe a little Tenel Ka on the side for fun.

After talking with DS, I believe that Jaina will be the one to deliver the death blow, as the story has obviously been leading that way. Tenel Ka would be a cool twist, though.

Also, what the hell happened to the Mando storyline? There was some great potential with the Beskar and everything. Either side could have gotten this precious metal that would've changed the war in more ways than humanly possible.

[Sam Kenobi]

That seems to be everyone's annoyance with the series. That every two books we have a Mandalorian storyline. It would have been fine if it would have been consistant.

[Darth Nameless]

thats true..and if they incorperated it more into the overall storyline...that would have made it better...i guess we will have to wait to see if they make everything that is going on with the mandalorians relivent to the overall story

[RedMirax]

Jacen cannot be redeemed. Screw them fanboys that want to see it happen, it's not gonna happen.

While he's definitely following in the footsteps of Vader, he doesn't have the Luke to save....Unless you think the Uber-Sith are going to get involved and kidnap Allana and take her to Zonoma Sekot in order to doubly provoke Jacen into all sorts of shiz. That'll set up the final book in which we have the epic showdown to end all showdowns (so they'll say) between Luke, Jacen, Jaina, Ben, and maybe a little Tenel Ka on the side for fun.

After talking with DS, I believe that Jaina will be the one to deliver the death blow, as the story has obviously been leading that way. Tenel Ka would be a cool twist, though.

Also, what the hell happened to the Mando storyline? There was some great potential with the Beskar and everything. Either side could have gotten this precious metal that would've changed the war in more ways than humanly possible.

The next book will have plenty of the Mando storyline!!! LOL :)

[DarthSolo]

And then it will barely get mentioned in the last book...

[Sam Kenobi]

To be perfectly honest, I think this book will tie in to the RC series.

[Darth Nameless]

RC series?

[Sam Kenobi]

Republic Commando.

[Master Magnus]

Also, what the hell happened to the Mando storyline? There was some great potential with the Beskar and everything. Either side could have gotten this precious metal that would've changed the war in more ways than humanly possible.
Traviss happened.:wink: Seriously, in that way the Beskar metal would serve as nothing but a rather cheap deux-ex-machina.

[Kapit]

Yeah, it's true, it could've been a cop out, but look at it this way:

Mandalore sells the Beskar to the Confederation, and for a while the Confederation (with Jedi help, of course) pushes the GA back so far that really all they have left to fend is Coruscant and a couple nearby systems. At this point, Niathal is really starting to butt heads with Caedus. Niathal wants to surrender, as they are in a dire situation, and obviously Caedus isn't happy with that. Niathal is either killed or disappears and quietly starts helping the Confederation (either way could work towards the same end).

All the while the GA is aware of the Beskar, and at this point Caedus is at his weakest and most frustrated, so what does he do? Plans an all-out assault of Mandalore. That's the end of Revelation.

Invincible would kick off with Mandalore being bombed like no other, and it's not just the Beskar plants: Just like teh Vong, Caedus is just leveling the planet. Boba is understandably pissed, and becomes even more so when he finds out that Mirta is among the dead. So Fett gets it in his mind that once the battle between the GA and the Confederation starts up, he'll take one of those fancy beskar fighters up and get onto the Anakin Solo. .

From here, there's just an all-out super battle between the GA and Confederation. Deaths on all sides. Craziness everywhere. Explosions, etc and so on. A Jedi task force storm the [I]AS to confront Caedus. A couple of em die, a couple are injured...the usual, ya know? Around this same time, Fett literally bursts through the AS (Beskar ship, impending death, grief...he doesn't much care anymore). They all confront Caedus, fights go on, more Jedi (and Boba) die, but not before getting their punches in on Caedus. Luke, Ben, Jaina, Leia, Han, and Caedus all have fun and eat cake...or whatever ending you wanna see.





But that's how I'd incorporate the Mandos and beskar and end the series

[DarthSolo]

That's not a bad little idea there, Kapit. Only problem I see is the Confederation turning things around that quickly: within the course of one book or less. But still, the plot could be worked out.

[Darth Nameless]

Republic Commando.

thanks :)

[Kapit]

That's not a bad little idea there, Kapit. Only problem I see is the Confederation turning things around that quickly: within the course of one book or less. But still, the plot could be worked out.


Well, if Beskar is that amazing...

But yeah, I guess it is a little late to introduce my ideas to the story, but hopefully LFL is out there...watching, listening, getting the checks written...

[Sam Kenobi]

. . . for that next series that they should announce already . . .

Or is that just wishfull thinking.

I suppose I'll have to make sure I get a ticket to Comic-Con this year.

[Master Magnus]

But that's how I'd incorporate the Mandos and beskar and end the series
Not bad, Kapit! It's a few more months of waiting to see if the Mandalorian subplot will be tied to the others. I personally think that the whole Mandalorian thing has gone overboard (it's just not my thing) and neither Denning nor Allston has more than mentioned them. But we'll see.

[Darth Nameless]

the only time they mentioned anything like that is when jacen killed boba kid

[Kapit]

And for quite a while afterwards. Boba is dying of a degernative clone disease, and trying to be an actual Mandalore. Sadly, the authors abandoned this story AFTER half of it had been written. It'd be one thing if they removed it during the conception phase, but now after we've seen half of it written down, it just feels like a wasted story, and that saddens me.

[Darth Nameless]

wasted and IMO pointless story

[Kapit]

Wasted, yeah, but I don't think it's pointless. I like Fett and the clones, and I think this is the perfect time to wrap up Fett's life. He lived through Vader and Palpatine, but not through Caedus.

I just want Fett to go out in a blaze of glory. That's all I ask.

[Darth Nameless]

well i dont think he will pass on in this run...maybe the next one

[Kapit]

No, he has to pass out in this series! If he doesn't, my perfect sense of reality will be ruined.

RUINED, MAN!

[DarthSolo]

If they don't kill Fett in this series, either he won't get an "on screen" death, or KT will be commissioned to write a Fett trilogy following this one that'll kill him. Which could be interesting, actually.

[Kapit]

That Fett trilogy could also help explain him finding the rogue clones...and who wouldn't love to see tehm some rogue clones?

[Darill Cyllem]

^I'd love to see them rogue clones.
"Rogue" and "clones" in the same sentence! *fangirls* My two favoritest things about star wars!!
I just finished Fury - pretty satisfying, i must say. I agree with DS that there were two very significant plot elements in this book.

And i just have to add that Jag Fel in Mandalorian armor was... completely... outstanding. Oh, yes, please, i'll have some more of that! :lol:

Anyway!
I think it'll be interesting to see if they do anything with Zekk's character after his episode on the asteroid. Probably he'll be magically all better, but it would be interesting.

[Master Magnus]

Are Mandalorians and even more Mandalorians the only thing they can come up with nowadays?:mad: This has gotten to the point that it's irritating.

[Darth Nameless]

there ok if they dont put them in EVERY book they write now

[Darill Cyllem]

Are Mandalorians and even more Mandalorians the only thing they can come up with nowadays?:mad: This has gotten to the point that it's irritating.
Not to me!
:wink:

That said, i do find that i'm much more interesting in what's going on with Boba Fett et al. than anyone else in Traviss's LOTF books, which is, perhaps, not the point of the series, as 2/3 of the authors barely mention them....
Oh, well.

[JediDad]

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