Jedi Blood

[Miasmo]

Does Jedi blood hold any properties that would produce any abnormal effects to the recipient of a blood transfusion?

Would it take?

Would they just get the usual benefits?

What if it was Jedi to Jedi? Would they be able to utilize properties related to the midi-chlorians of their fellow Jedi?

Are there any stories out there that have mentioned or covered this?





Maybe that's why Yoda's so weak. He's always giving blood to the rest of the Jedi. :nahnah:

Seriously though, any thoughts?

[Tovor]

Interesting question. I had asked years ago, after TPM, if a blood tranfusion from a Jedi to a non Jedi would transfer the midiclorians and enable the non-Jedi to access the Force. Nobody I asked knew, though.

Come to think of it, since blood cells can be replicated within the body, I'd assume so do midichlorians. So why where there so few Jedi in the galaxy, when all they should have had to do was transfer blood to non-Jedi and thus enable them to access the Force and beging Jedi training?

:scratchchin: Perhaps the Jedi held to a belief similar to Star Trek's Prime Directive, that it was wrong to create Jedi from beings not born that way.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

But then if that was the case Tov wouldn't evil beings, such as Sidious, attempt to capture Jedi and transfuse their blood into other beings to make strong evil 'Jedi'?

Maybe midichlorians cannot be transferred or replicated? :scratchchin: I am not aware of this topic being considered anywhere.

[Tovor]

But then if that was the case Tov wouldn't evil beings, such as Sidious, attempt to capture Jedi and transfuse their blood into other beings to make strong evil 'Jedi'?

Maybe midichlorians cannot be transferred or replicated? :scratchchin: I am not aware of this topic being considered anywhere.
Only two there are...no more, no less. A master and an apprentice.

Sidious would not want more Sith in the galaxy. The reason why the original Sith empire was destroyed 1000 years before TPM was from the greed and power struggles from within which tore it apart. There can't be more than 2 Sith because they would always turn on the master.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I was thinking of him using them as more of soldiers rather than as potential Sith, just like he used Ventress (I know this is outside the scope of the movies), for example.

Also, how about bounty hunters who would be strong enough to capture a padawan, if not a Jedi? They could then sell their capture to the highest bidder and I'm sure there were plenty of scientists in the galaxy who would be willing to experiment.

[Tovor]

I see. Soldiers strong enough to use the Force, but not strong enough to master it, then? So using the Force they could overcome an enemy, but not be strong enough to overcome a master Sith lord?

(That's actually a subplot in my unfinished Star Wars novel, btw.)

[Miasmo]

Something maybe worth noting, if you remember, Quigon used a blood sample in the first place to send to Obiwan for analysis. So the midichlorians can at least be detected in the blood.

[Tovor]

Indeed.

To add to your original questions, I wonder if a Jedi was killed by an animal and eaten, would the midis have any affect on the animal's behavior?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I see. Soldiers strong enough to use the Force, but not strong enough to master it, then? So using the Force they could overcome an enemy, but not be strong enough to overcome a master Sith lord?

(That's actually a subplot in my unfinished Star Wars novel, btw.)

Sorry mate, I've already copyrighted that idea. :nahnah:

Something maybe worth noting, if you remember, Quigon used a blood sample in the first place to send to Obiwan for analysis. So the midichlorians can at least be detected in the blood.

That is very true. Maybe they are somehow only operable in the original body though?

Indeed.

To add to your original questions, I wonder if a Jedi was killed by an animal and eaten, would the midis have any affect on the animal's behavior?

I think with this line of thinking we are opening up a massive can of worms, I see this thread becoming a hive of activity!

[bruciarsi]

There is always the possibilty that blood transfusions arent performed in the star wars galaxy. Not saying they never were but possibly there science progressed beyond the need and synthetic bloods etc were used. Or even some self replicating agent introduced to their system that speeds up the bodys own replicating abilities.

But if it did happen well yes it would be interesting to see what would happen. Would the midichlorian know they were leaving the body and simply not go? Do they stay with the host for life? Every time a jedi gets hurt and bleeds would they loose some of their force ability?

[Tovor]

...Every time a jedi gets hurt and bleeds would they loose some of their force ability?
I wondered about that when Anakin lost his limbs.

[Darth Zan Maka]

i think such a transfusion could lead even to a death of unprepared non-Force sensitive recipient due to a thikening or trombosis - it's like rare blood group, incompatible with other groups. And if midiclorianes could be transferrered with blood to those who already possess them to increase their force abilities - then some Sith or other Force tradition adepts could hunt Jedi or other force-sensitives 4 their blood, or organs, so it would be preferrable to imprison them, not to kill (sounds interesting thou). Also there would be probably successful attempts to make concentrate or extracts from that blood - huge new field of activity 4 Sith Alchemy and Darth Plagueis should've been informed of it, but it seems he wasn't.
In genelal i think midiclorianes in their endosymbiotic existance personally connected to a mind and consiousness of the man destined to possess them and they die right after the biological link is broken so no transfusion is possible.

[Miasmo]

In genelal i think midiclorianes in their endosymbiotic existance personally connected to a mind and consiousness of the man destined to possess them and they die right after the biological link is broken so no transfusion is possible.Very good point there.

[Rebel Astromech Droid]

I always thought that the midiclorians were a result of the force sensativity, not what caused it. Am I way off on that?

[Tovor]

I always thought that the midiclorians were a result of the force sensativity, not what caused it. Am I way off on that?
The midis are not created by Force sensitivity, they are what cause it.

Think about this for a moment...though I am not sure how to put this. The skin's sensitivity to light is factored by something in the skin. Pigments, maybe? I'm not sure. But whatever it is in the skin, in the cellular structure perhaps, is what dictates how the skin reacts to the sun. The more of whatever this is (doctors and scientists, help me out here) that is in the skin, the more sensitive to light the skin is, and the more the skin will thus react to the light. Make sense?

Now imagine you're a guy in a cartoon, and you swallow a bunch of metal pellets. The guy next to you swallows even more metal pellets. Then some guy with a giant magnet comes closer to both of you, and both of you feel your bodies being drawn toward the magnet, from the metal in your body. But you also notice that while you are pushing back with your feet to slow your approach to the magnet, the guy with more pellets is being pulled faster than you are, because the increased amount of metal pellets in his body is causing his connection to the magnet to be more powerful than your connection to the magnet. Both of your bodies are being affected by the magnet, but the one with more pellets in his body is being affected more, or has more of a connection, to the magnet's invisible pull.

Make sense? Now imagine that the midis are metal pellets. The more midis you have in your body, your cells, your mind, your brain's electric impulses, the more your body can feel and be affected by the invisible energy, or pull, of the magnet. Thus, the more midis the Jedi has, the more he can touch, and be touched by, the Force. So the midis don't create the Force, but they enable the Jedi to feel the Force. They are the connection he has with the Force.

But I also believe that even a Jedi with less midis can use his training to increase his mind's sensitivity to the Force through the midis and gain more power. Thus Yoda's urging of Luke to believe more and more in the Force.



Another thought:
The Jedi's midi count is not so much dictated by the size of his body (size matters not) but by the concentration of midis in the cells. Yet I still think that if he loses parts of his body he'll obviously have less cells and less midis in his body. I'm not certain about this. But when a person loses a sense, like sight for instance, usually his other senses become more attuned to compensate. So maybe even though Vader lost so many limbs and so much blood, the reminaing amount of midis in his remaining body compensated by increasing to have the same connection to the Force that the Chosen One was meant to have...???...I'm not really sure about this though. We definately saw Vader moving things through the Force through the wave of his hands and arms, but without midis in those metal limbs, how could they have a connection to the Force at all? Maybe the rest of his body compensated for the missing limbs to provide the affect he thought he was managing through the use of his hand waves. Again, not sure about this one.

[Rebel Astromech Droid]

That's disappointing. Little things in the blood causing force sensativity doesn't seem BIG enough, though maybe that's the power of it all. Anyway, I guess that would mean that if a normal person had an infusion of jedi blood, they would get some of the midis and become somewhat sensative.

[Darth Zan Maka]

Hmm... So u disagree with my point in #12 completely as i see.

[Rebel Astromech Droid]

Right. I don't think it could result in their death, not if the blood itself is the same apart from the midiclorians?

[Justin]

Midichlorians suck.

[Miasmo]

^Can't science and religion coexist? :P