Best deleted scene in the prequel trilogy

[JSunday]

1. What's yours?

2. AND what scene would you omit to make this scene happen....time being what it is in Lucasland.

Mine was the sadly unused scene where Anakin and Padme arrive at her parents' home. Great looking scene, sets, etc. Very empathetic characters in her family members. Helped soften up their relationship (no stool softener jokes please!!) and bring credibility and realization to how Padme was feeling...beginning to feel. Let us know that others could see it as well.

Swap this out with the bronco bustin' bull (flea) riding scene in the meadow to begin to account for the time difference.

[RollaFett]

Yeah, I can't argue with that choice at all, so, I won't and it'll be my choice as well.
As for what I would omit? Hmmm...I don't mind the 'flea' riding scene too much as it gives us another Padme/Anakin scene that the film needs, despite how stupid the 'flea' looked. Sooo...I'll go with a chunk of the droid factory action sequence. It could easily be condensed. With that said, I actually think you could include the Padme's family scene and not have to lose anything to make up time, IMO. But, that's not your game, now is it JSunday? ;)

[JSunday]

Oh now rules were meant to be crushed to dust, so frig the game. :D

[Justin]

I think the best deleted scene was the one where the twins were concieved.

[Tovor]

1. What's yours?

2. AND what scene would you omit to make this scene happen....time being what it is in Lucasland.

Mine was the sadly unused scene where Anakin and Padme arrive at her parents' home. Great looking scene, sets, etc. Very empathetic characters in her family members. Helped soften up their relationship (no stool softener jokes please!!) and bring credibility and realization to how Padme was feeling...beginning to feel. Let us know that others could see it as well.

Swap this out with the bronco bustin' bull (flea) riding scene in the meadow to begin to account for the time difference.
That was a nice scene. It showed not only more of the reason why Padme allowed herself to open iup to Anakin, but also why she realized she was putting her political life before her personal one. But though I like that measure of character developement, the scene I would put in instead would be a toss-up between Padme's anti-army senate speech from just after the assassination attempt, to the dialogue between Padme and Count Dooku after her capture, when he told her that the republic was broken and in need of change; or the Missing 20 scene which was an important set-up for Dooku's story. And I think that all 3 of those scenes could have been added by leaving out the flea riding scene, and shortening or leaving out the Donky-Kong droid factory scene.

In Sith I would keep the confrontation between Palpatine, with Anakin beside him, and the senators, and compensate by shortening the whole running/sliding/falling/swinging scene in the Invisible Hand elavator shaft scene.

[lovelucas]

Going back to the beginning - just about every deleted scene would have been a welcomed addition.

but...narrowing it down here - I originally saw AotC in Imax and the biggest cut to accommodate the required shortening of the film was the picnic scene. and when I saw the version everyone else saw, that was a jarring omission - not so much for the flea flicker - I can lose that part - but for the conversation between Anakin and Padme, the one that reveals how Anakin thinks politically and Padme's counter of "that sounds like a dictatorship". so..keep most of the scene but delete the flea, the rolling down the hill, and I agree the droid factory definitely could be shortened and I go back and forth with the pod race. Most of the time it feels way too long, then the next time I watch TPM it's exhilarating.
I love the beginning of RotS - the opening battle over Coruscant and all of the rescuing of Palpatine, including the elevator slide. All of it was exciting moves so quickly - so, wouldn't cut that.

But I miss: 1. the formation of the rebellion and 2. the attempt by Padme as a member of the senate to present Palpatine with the petition - plus the scene reveals Anakin to be standing by, literally and figuratively by Palpatine. Those two scenes really would have helped non-hard core geeks understand why we were heading to desperate times but...

I'd also like to have seen - Obi Wan choosing Boga and Yoda landing on Dagobah.

I'm wondering what lightbulb went off in George's head and what the impetus was to film additional scenes to change the focus. The formation of the rebellion was just..huge.

and of course I'm really, really still missing what wasn't even filmed or voiced: Qui Gon.

[Salacious Crumb]

I would've liked to had seen the arrival at Padme's house as well. I also liked the bit in her bedroom when they talked about that race that died because they didn't adapt to change.

I suppose you could lose the flea riding part to fit it in, or even shorten the droid factory sequence a bit. Especially the bit with C3PO holding onto that big flying droid's arm :blink:

I would've liked to had seen the Obi-Wan Vs. Jango Fett fight on Kamino extended slightly as well. The edit looked a bit off when Obi-Wan goes to slash at Jango and all of a sudden he has blasted off and is repelling laser fire. I would've liked to had seen the opening 'twirl' Obi-Wan does to repel Jango's laser-fire as well, which first appeared in either the trailer or one of the TV Spots.

I would've liked to had seen more of the other Jedi fight in the arena on Geonosis as well, especially when they were being converged upon by overwhelming numbers of battle droids, and form that 'last stand' circle. That can easily be substituted for any of those lame C3PO gags about 'being quite beside myself' or 'this is such a drag' lines.

In ROTS I would've liked to had seen The Clones and Anakin doing battle with the droid ships one-on-one, to see what a dog-fight with this new digital technology would've looked like; against that in ANH and to a lesser extent ROTJ. Substitute the damn buzz droids for these scenes.

Sticking with the same film add in General Grievous killing Shak Ti, to add a bit of ruthlessness to the character - it still shows him as a coward - and adds to Sith's 'dark' episode nature as well. You can erase the R2 trying to electricute one of the battle droids when Obi Wan and Anakin are trapped in the Ray Shields for this.

[Jestyr]

I suppose you could lose the flea riding part to fit it in, or even shorten the droid factory sequence a bit. Especially the bit with C3PO holding onto that big flying droid's arm :blink:

That's a good one!

Another element of that scene I've never understood is his dialogue: "I wonder what happened to R2? He's always getting himself into trouble..." I know - it's supposed to be very funny considering Threepio is about to drop into his own trouble, but funny lines have to make sense as well. Now, he and R2 have spent how much time together at this point? They were first introduced and worked together during the podrace, then immediately after that, R2 left with Padme for Naboo and Threepio stayed behind with Shme. The next time they see each other is on Tatooine, after Anakin recovers Shme and they all leave together for Geonosis where R2 and Threepio have a brief exchange before they step out together after Anakin and Padme, and he says those lines.

How could Threepio know that R2 is 'always getting himself into trouble'? He barely knows R2 at that point - what 'trouble' is he talking about?

I just wonder sometimes did George even watch these movies before release? :giveup:

[Ant]

Yoda arraving at degobah or Anakin Skywalker fighting greedo. I like it when the OT and PT link together

[STar war spUNK]

i love anything on naboo b/c of the scenery. everything is so pretty. so i would go for scene where anakin meets the parents. take out the whole fireplace scene: "i'm haunted by the kiss blah blah blah". hahahaha.

also am i the only person who liked the senate/rebellion scenes?!

[RollaFett]

No, I liked them too, and would've loved to see them stay in ROTS. That said, I don't disagree with Lucas's reasoning for taking them out either. He did it to make Anakin's story more of the focus of the film, and it really does work. I'm not sure it wouldn't have still worked, to some degree, if left them in though.

[Darill Cyllem]

I agree about the AOTC scenes. Re-insert the stuff with Padme's family. Take out either the nerf surfing scene or the fireplace scene. Or both! Why not?

I really like the Rebellion scenes from ROTS as well. Otherwise, what does Padme do through that whole movie? Cry and worry about Anakin. That seems inconsistent with her character to me. Sure, she was pregnant and that'll throw you, but still....
What to cut instead? Not sure.
The Rebellion scenes aren't that long - can't we just add them?

[lovelucas]

I think the fireplace scene needs to stay...
It shows the length Anakin will go to, the duplicity tried and failed -
"Could you do that Anakin? We would be living a lie"
plus it includes the all-important and revealing dialogue -
"You're right. It would destroy us"
and that look from Anakin when he says that....

[Darill Cyllem]

I think the fireplace scene needs to stay...
It shows the length Anakin will go to, the duplicity tried and failed -
"Could you do that Anakin? We would be living a lie"
plus it includes the all-important and revealing dialogue -
"You're right. It would destroy us"
and that look from Anakin when he says that....
Well, yes, that's true... i just can't ever bring myself to watch that scene - i really dislike it. I agree with your point, Lovelucas, that scene could just be a lot better for me.
Oh, well - that's what the "seek" button on the DVD remote is for, i guess! :D

[lovelucas]

well, Darill - thanks for that..
I'd rather watch this scene than the earlier part of the conversation in the picnic scene where Padme is talking about a former boyfriend.

the fireplace scene is shot so beautifully - and it also reveals so much - pun intended. The deliberate selection of what Padme chooses to wear and the...ummmm..body language. She is saying no with her words but that's about the only place.

And Anakin.....is actually being true to himself. He wants what he wants - and is trying to change Padme's logic who is trying to be the adult here, and she is older. Anakin grows up rather quickly after he finds and loses his mother. He undergoes a transforming, painful experience that ages him in every way. and by the time we begin RotS, he is the older one and Padme is looking to him for reassurance.

[Darill Cyllem]

well, Darill - thanks for that..
I'd rather watch this scene than the earlier part of the conversation in the picnic scene where Padme is talking about a former boyfriend.
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Yeah... i never watch the picnic scene, either.
I think i like it better than fireplace, though, bc their dialog sounds a bit more natural to me. In that scene, i believe that they're friends and there's something between them. That's my take, anyway.

In terms of what's more important to the plot, though - maybe the fireplace scene is.

[lovelucas]

but the picnic reveals Anakin's political philosophy and that Padme calls it what it is - a dictatorship


and he says...."well, if it works"

[Darill Cyllem]

but the picnic reveals Anakin's political philosophy and that Padme calls it what it is - a dictatorship


and he says...."well, if it works"
Well, if the content is there but the delivery doesn't work, i'm still not going to like the scene. What can i say? I think the deleted scenes where we see Padme's family do a lot more to develop the Anakin/Padme relationship and I would have swapped either picnic or fireplace for family.

[STar war spUNK]

honestly i find the fireplace scene (and the "it's all obi-wan's fault, he's holding me back!" scene) to be much more tolearable in a different language. :D hayden is hot (yes he is!) but scenes where he has to be serious in star wars seem to be ... awkward for some reason.

[lovelucas]

that dialogue is actually from the scene on Tatooine where Anakin reveals the Tusken slaughter to Padme....
and it's quite a serious scene, I think and one of Hayden's best - the death of his mother, excuse the wording here, could not have been performed better...IMO

and:
I think the deleted scenes where we see Padme's family do a lot more to develop the Anakin/Padme relationship and I would have swapped either picnic or fireplace for family.

But I think you're missing part of my intention - although, yes, we would like to see how their relationship developed (so much of it was fast forward due to Anakin always having Padme on his mind and in his dreams for 10 years) I think it's actually crucial to see the differences in their ideology, before the crisis comes. The nearly pole-apart opposition and differences were always there. and it also reveals that Anakin has already been discussing politics and the "right" way to govern with Palpatine, who has indeed been watching his career with great interest. and shaping it...

[Darth Kitana]

The scene i would have had would be the origins of the rebel alliance in ROTS, and which scene i would have deleted would have been the r2d2 fighting the droids in Greivous' flagship.

[Darill Cyllem]

The scene i would have had would be the origins of the rebel alliance in ROTS, and which scene i would have deleted would have been the r2d2 fighting the droids in Greivous' flagship.

Good choice - though i do enjoy Artoo.


But I think you're missing part of my intention - although, yes, we would like to see how their relationship developed (so much of it was fast forward due to Anakin always having Padme on his mind and in his dreams for 10 years) I think it's actually crucial to see the differences in their ideology, before the crisis comes. The nearly pole-apart opposition and differences were always there. and it also reveals that Anakin has already been discussing politics and the "right" way to govern with Palpatine, who has indeed been watching his career with great interest. and shaping it...

Sorry, Lovelucas, i'm not trying to start an argument with you. I don't think i'm missing part of your intention and sorry if i didn't make that clear. I get what you're saying about the content of the scenes and why it's valuable. My point is that those scenes just don't work for me, personally - the dialogue, the delivery, etc. just don't make me believe that what's happening or being discussed has great importance. i do like the picnic scene much better (than the fireplace) - there are times where I see Anakin and Padme becoming friends and talking in a way that i think does work.
Obviously, we disagree on what works for us in various scenes - but there you have it, people are different and have different opinions. :)

[lovelucas]

Hey, no prob Darill Cyllem. Visually and cinematically they're both beautiful scenes and while the dialogue doesn't work for some people I'm glad both scenes are there due to that aforementioned beauty and what George is trying to say with that dialogue.

I never ever fast forward those scenes...actually I don't do that ever with any of the 6 films...
but not saying or thinking anything negative about those who do..

Indeed diff folks/diff strokes (on the remote sometimes!)

[Raganork8]

I'm surprised only one person said the Arrival on Dagobah...

Probably the saddest thing to omit from the movie; I STILL don't understand GL's reasoning on this one.


And I'd omit that GHASTLY scene in ROTS where Padme looks like a clown and there's doing that odd back and forward "love has blinded you" crap.

It provided nothing to me; save, establishing they are obnoxiously in love.

[RollaFett]

Well, you've heard Lucas's reasoning for cutting the Yoda scene, right?
How it simply didn't fit with the other closing scenes in terms of connecting to ANH. We don't see Yoda again until ESB, so seeing where he goes after ROTS seemed to be out of place with seeing Luke and Leia's destinys.

[Raganork8]

I remember him saying; it doesn't follow the line of main characters

Obi; Vader, Padme and the Twins


but still we went on this emotional journey with Yoda through ROTS (in my opinion he had the best acting of all; and was most enjoyable in tis film) that thirty second scene wouldn't have confused anyone...

[RollaFett]

Yeah, you're right. I thought I also remember Lucas and producer Rick McCallum really having a hard time with the deciscion as well. Neither really wanted to see it go, but it ultimately went anyway.

[Darill Cyllem]

Yeah... that would have been a nice little tie-in, and it's so short they wouldn't have had to cut anything else, in my opinion. I mean, are people not going to go see it because it's 30 seconds longer? :lol:

[Raganork8]

Yeah... that would have been a nice little tie-in, and it's so short they wouldn't have had to cut anything else, in my opinion. I mean, are people not going to go see it because it's 30 seconds longer? :lol:


Exactly How I felt, when i saw the name of it one the DVD I thought it would be a long-ish scene; by that half a minute little thing was so enjoyable; I couldn't understand why it was cut out at all.


I would have also trid to reinstitute the Court scene in AOTC where Padme and Anakin go on trail; looks like some good acting could have come of that and they could have cut out half that absurd droid building factory belt scene; and put that in there.

[RollaFett]

The trial scene definately would've been better than that droid factory crap. Some of it was cool, but it went on too long. Hell, a lot of that was even added much later after principal photography, for cryin' out loud!

[Raganork8]

Yeah; I mean the thought of it was cool; but it went on forever; and it took away a lot of my like for 3P0 actually.

Anything that was cut out revolving around Dooku to me was a poor choice; such a fine actor and character should have been used 1000000000000000000000000000000% more

[Darth Apotheosus]

One of those things about these movies is much of the information we are just supposed to accept is either completely omitted or crammed down our throats.

Example: Padme is supposed to be a senator, a diplomat, but in no way, shape or form does she ever display those qualities. However, in the one scene deleted from RotS, she actually does seem to behave like a senator (and we'd get to see the beginnings of the rebel alliance as someone stated before). My vote goes for that one.

To make room for it... tough call. I'd lean towards omitting the earliest scenes during the starbattle, maybe the part where the droids are ripping poor R4's head off. I could have done without seeing her slaughter. The movie might fare better without some of that near-slapstick elevator sequence too. That seemed like too heavy-handed an attempt to recreate the trashcompactor scene from ANH.

AOTC: As much as I hated the picnic scenes... I'm going to agree the whole fireplace scene seemed gawky and downright contradictory. If I were trying to convince myself some guy and I shouldn't be together, the last thing I would do is to dress up in leather and feather hoochie gear and sit around in a fireplace lit room next to him. We all know what kind of message that would send.

The scenes with the family provided a more natural, wholesome and honest depiction of her inner turmoil.

Plus, I love the kitchen - Future Tuscan.

This wouldn't have been a bad thread for an actual Poll.

[Baltar]

I think all of the deleted scenes were great from one perspective--each cut scene reduced the excruciating experience of watching the prequels.

[Darth Massacrus]

My friends friend, who know this one guy who said his girlfriends ex-boyfriend runs a movie theater that totally got shipped some movie reels of the Prequels that accidentally had like, 50 deleted scenes in them or something, and that he got to watch them before George Lucas, like, personally came in and seized them and sh!t, said that one of the completely real scenes was a sex scene with Padme and Anakin, and that they was all, like, doing it and stuff in that one with the Clones in it. Now, I was a bit skeptical of this, but my friends friend gave me complete assurances that these deleted scenes were 110% real, and I'm certain that he was telling the truth, because he said he was honest!



Getting back to reality, my favorite PT deleted scene was the one from Episode II with Nute Gunray telling Poggle the Lesser to hurry up with the executions of Padme, Anakin, and Obi-Wan, because he wanted to see them suffer. It was so like Gunray...