The Making of Star Wars: New Revelations

[T-bone]

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=16&p2_articleid=1168

Interesting...

Grab a copy. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0345494768/tbonefendersstar/)

[Cassus Fett]

very interesting T, will be definately buying this

[empire21]

Wow! Thats alot of freaking money.

[LuiECuomo]

Wow...I think this book might just make a lot of people feel like fools. :nahnah:

[Tovor]

Wow...I think this book might just make a lot of people feel like fools. :nahnah:
Who is the more foolish, the fool who pays $47 for a book, or the fool who follows him paying $75?

[Master Magnus]

Sure sounds interesting... I've ordered the book.

[Sluggo]

I'm ordering mine friday. Boo yah.

[Tovor]

Well...you guys know that I hadn't meant yousa, righto? :ohwell:

[Sluggo]

Well...you guys know that I hadn't meant yousa, righto? :ohwell:

Icky icky goo? Lately, I only buy a Star Wars book or two per year, so this one seems ok to save up for.

[Tovor]

Fair enough. I only buy one or two per movie (Incredible Cross Sections, and stuff like that). I guess I should read more. :scratchchin:

[Master Magnus]

I received a disappointing email from the online store I ordered it from which said that the book was out of stock. I looked around and then found another store which reported it in stock and it cost me 100 Swedish kronor ($15) less than the other store. :)

[Mothman]

I'm cheap. I'll wait until this comes to my local library. I've waited 30 years so far to get this, so I can be patient enough to wait a little bit longer.

BTW...I have real doubts about the validity of the notes section. Is this a photocopy of GL's original scrawl in #2 pencil on a legal pad? If so, that would be wonderful!! Otherwise, methinks something is afoot. I can't imagine that GL had all of that minutae spelled out correctly from the very beginning, while he appears to have trouble determining major things like Luke's last name, who is related to who, etc. - seemingly making it up and/or changing his mind as he goes along.



:bye:

[RollaFett]

T-Bone provided this link at his website: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/

It's not the same book as is being discussed here, however, it certainly seems to be extremely detailed and well researched. Also, I've read about 80 pages or so, and it certainly has no allegiances.

[Master Magnus]

Hmm... it'll be interesting to see whether the official book will clear up the history surrounding the mysterious 'Journal of the Whills' script.

[T-bone]

Hmm... it'll be interesting to see whether the official book will clear up the history surrounding the mysterious 'Journal of the Whills' script.

It has a small piece on it - more than a teeny bit, less than a lot.
Part of it reads:Journal of the Whills
[Part] I

"This is the story of Mace Windy, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi, as related to us by C.J. Thorpe, padawaan learner to the famed jedi."


C.J. Thorpe (or C.2. Thorpe) actually stands for "Chuiee Two Thorpe of Kissel. My father is Han Dardell Thorpe, chief pilot of the renown galactic cruiser Tarnack." At the age of sixteen Chuiee enters the "exalted Intersystems Academy to train as a potential Jedi-Templer. It is there that I became padawaan learner to the great Mace Windy... at that time, Warlord to the Chairman of the Alliance of Independent Systems... Some felt he was even more powerful than the Imperial leader of the Galactic Empire... Ironically, it was his own comrades' fear... that led to his replacement... and expulsion from the royal forces."

After Windy's dismissal, Chuiee begs to stay in his service "until I had finished my education." Part II takes up the story: "It was four years later that our greatest adventure began. We were guardians on a shipment of fusion portables to Yavin, when we were summoned to the desolate second planet of Yoshiro by a mysterious courier from the Chairman of the Alliance."

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=16&p2_articleid=1171

[Master Magnus]

Great T! That's much more than I've seen earlier.

About this e-book, I think it's quite difficult to judge the validity of some of the claims that the author puts forwards seeing that he had no access to Lucasfilm or George Lucas himself other than published interviews and books. I also think he's far too harsh in his judgment of George Lucas when he implies that Lucas willfully lies about among other things the relationships between the characters (especially father-son relationship between Vader and Luke). I don't know the truth about how it was, but I certainly think it's quite possible to put in one's head that "This is how it was" and believing it without consciously lying about it.
Other than that, there was plenty of interesting stuff, particularly the details about the shooting of The Empire Strikes Back culled from different interviews.

[T-bone]

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[JSunday]

Thanks T...!

Anyone notice any appreciable differences between the two? I mean, why not the soft cover?

[Darth Fool]

The hardcover is worth it for the extras: them storyboards are fantastic and it's interesting to read the background info on the characters that Lucas gave in 1977.

[Darth Fool]

Anyway great book and I love the fact that it does just use quotes from the time the film was being made - apart from one Lucas quote (about ILM) although this is clearly labeled as being later.
The way the stuff on the early drafts is presented does a good job of showing how the story progressed (although the Anoatated screenplays also managed this) and Lucas' quotes are ones that show that back then, the Star Wars story was different (Vader's naming had nothing to do with Father), although there was plenty of material that would later be used in future films - heck there's even a throwaway mention of Luke and Leia being twins.

One of my favourite quotes (from December, 1975) is about sequels:
I want to have Luke kiss the princess in the second book. The second book will be Gone with the Wind in Outer Space. She likes Luke, but Han is Clark Gable. Well she may appear to get Luke, because in the end I want Han to leave. Han splits at the end of the second book and we learn who Darth Vader is... In the third book, I want the story to be just the soap opera of the Skywalker family, which ends in the destruction of the Empire.
Then someday I want to do the backstory of Kenobi as a young man--a story of the Jedi and how the Emperor eventually takes over and turns the whole thing from a Republic into an Empire, and tricks all the Jedi and kills them. The whole battle where Luke's father gets killed. That would be impossible to do, but it's great to dream about.

[JSunday]

Very cool. Thanks for sharing that. :bye:

[RollaFett]

^^ That is a great quote and reveals how Vader was not always Luke's father.

[JSunday]

Wasn't that a thought of Leigh Bracket's? I may be waayyyy off here.

[RollaFett]

What, Vader not being Luke's father? I don't know much about Brackett's influence for that, however, it has been revealed that it wasn't written until the 2nd draft for ESB, which Lucas wrote after Brackett died. Until then, Luke's father was supposed to appear as a spirit, like Obi-Wan, and of course, he wasn't Vader.

[T-bone]

^^ That is a great quote and reveals how Vader was not always Luke's father.

Yes, as opposed to how he now claims that was the case the whole time and the whole thing was ALWAYS the saga of Anakin Skywalker. Right.

[RollaFett]

^ Exactamundo!
I'm nearly finished with that "Secret History of Star Wars" ebook that you provided a link for on your site, T, and even though I either knew or suspected a lot of what it reveals, to have it presented so thouroughly is impressive. Even if, at times, it seems like the author has a bit of an ax to grind.

[BigBadDaddyVader]

On a personal note for me it was very pleasing to see my TIE model maker's blueprint appear in a photo of the ILM workshop on page 79.That was quite exciting seeing something on my wall pop up in a pic from back then.Wish I had had it when I was making the display!

[Jedi Master Harrison]

On a personal note for me it was very pleasing to see my TIE model maker's blueprint appear in a photo of the ILM workshop on page 79.That was quite exciting seeing something on my wall pop up in a pic from back then.Wish I had had it when I was making the display!

Excellent! That must be quite a buzz! :)

[BigBadDaddyVader]

I was really excited to see my blueprint alongside actual TIE models being built.:)