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Obi-Wan
03-22-2003, 08:01 PM
<span style="color:blue">All news on the lastest Batman projects will be posted here! From the comics, to the new toys by Mattel!</span>
Padme
03-22-2003, 10:24 PM
I love Batman! It is just too bad that he isn't real.
Lord Rocha
03-22-2003, 10:25 PM
I heard a rumor that maybe there is going to be another Batman related film.
mirax terrik horn
03-22-2003, 10:25 PM
yeah ya know ya wonder if he really had the abs that was in his armor???
Lord Rocha
03-22-2003, 10:27 PM
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Darth Drew
03-22-2003, 10:27 PM
<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Spider-Man is much cooler than Batman.</span></span>
Padme
03-22-2003, 10:28 PM
Batman is more of a man!
Darth Drew
03-22-2003, 10:29 PM
<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">He is also a man dressed as a Bat style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif</span></span>
mirax terrik horn
03-22-2003, 10:29 PM
totally more of a man i mean spider man is so immature sometimes cough cough all the time
Padme
03-22-2003, 10:30 PM
I agree.
Lord Rocha
03-22-2003, 10:30 PM
I prefer Batman to Spiderman
Spidy is annoying and immature ( on the movie) and annoying again (series)
mirax terrik horn
03-22-2003, 10:31 PM
definitly
Jors_Dedon
03-22-2003, 10:31 PM
ummm... yeah. I'd have to go with Batman... although the Riddler is my fave (out of the movie, comics, series... everything)
Whisper
03-22-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Darth Drew@Mar 22 2003, 09:27 PM
<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Spider-Man is much cooler than Batman.</span></span>
Damn Straight.
And Batman more a man? Uhhmm....who has the Supermodel wife?
Lord Rocha
03-22-2003, 10:41 PM
What Supermodel wife ?
mirax terrik horn
03-22-2003, 10:41 PM
when does it say that mary-jane is a supermodel
Whisper
03-22-2003, 10:42 PM
Comic Book. She's a Supermodel.
Lord Rocha
03-22-2003, 10:42 PM
Oh...how nice.
mirax terrik horn
03-22-2003, 10:45 PM
well not really she just looks like a supermodel ..... but then agian i havent read all of the comic books just most of them.
Obi-Wan
03-22-2003, 10:59 PM
<span style="color:blue">The new Batman figures by Mattel are to be released around April, May or June! I can't wait to get them!</span>
Lord Rocha
03-23-2003, 12:26 AM
You also collect Batman figures ?
Jango
03-23-2003, 12:50 AM
batman is realy cool
Rogue_0009
03-23-2003, 01:09 PM
<span style="color:red">As long as we're talking about Frank Miller's Batman, [as opposed to the candy-@$$ed 60's batman from the tv show] Batman is the most bad @$$ superhero ever!!!!!!! [exept maybe Deadpool, but then again he's more of an anti-hero.]</span>
SPiderman is more of a man. He actually has come to grips with what he can do and does it for a good reason.
Batman is the immature one, fighting crime and beating up people to find some peace with his parents' deaths.
RollaFett
03-23-2003, 04:07 PM
Batman's cool and you know it!
Darth Drew
03-23-2003, 04:40 PM
<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Can we agree that Superman, is an idiot?</span></span>
Padme
03-23-2003, 04:50 PM
Hey! I like Superman.
RollaFett
03-23-2003, 04:52 PM
Idiot? I'm not sure about that, hell, he's the grandaddy of superheros.
Darth Fabulous
03-23-2003, 04:53 PM
Superman rocks.
Padme
03-23-2003, 05:13 PM
So, has anyone seen or heard anything about the new Batman movies?
only that they've had like 3 projects and none of them are going through.
nerfer
03-23-2003, 08:05 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Batman is the immature one, fighting crime and beating up people to find some peace with his parents' deaths.[/b][/quote]
<span style="color:c1007e"><span style="font-family:comic sans ms">
What you find immature about Batman, is actually one of the most interesting points about Batman. He's a man on the edge, some might argue that he's as insane as the criminals he goes after. Therein lies Batman's appeal. He's a hero people can relate to, he's not perfect, he's flawed, he makes mistakes, he's HUMAN! He may not be as noble as Superman,no Batman is dark, he's gritty, what he does aint always pretty, but thats the way the world is, it aint fair, it doesn't play by the rules, so neither does he.
He gets the job done on human, instinct, and ingenuity. He doesn't have the super powers of Superman or Spiderman. He gets through by his intellect and his training. He wasn't just handed strength and the ability to fight, he had to train hard and long.
I have to agree with Moo on the films, they take a bit away from the character in that you don't get to see what a great detective he is. He has a fantastic deductive mind, he's intelligent and articulate.
Revenge may not be a great reason to be a superhero, it may not even be a noble one. But it sure makes for a man passionate about what he does.
I would rather see another Batman movie than a Superman one, a Batman movie done right.</span></span>
Marbleman
03-23-2003, 08:17 PM
whos the best batman bad guy and batman action figure? MAN BAT, who has impressive flying action and blue levis pants. plus hes the opposite of batman.
nerfer
03-23-2003, 08:23 PM
<span style="color:c1007e"><span style="font-family:comic sans ms">
LMAO!!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif </span></span>
Obi-Wan
03-23-2003, 09:44 PM
<span style="color:blue">Yeah Spuerdork is an idiot! And I'm gonna have to say its a tie between Batman and Spider-Man. Both rock! But Spidey has the humor while Batman is all dark and serious!</span>
Jango
03-23-2003, 10:16 PM
Hope i can get oulm.
Obi-Wan
03-23-2003, 10:19 PM
<span style="color:blue">Who?</span>
Jango
03-23-2003, 10:20 PM
the new bat man figures
Obi-Wan
03-23-2003, 10:24 PM
<span style="color:blue">Okay. Chris who is your fave villian in Batman?</span>
Darth Insightful
03-23-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Rogue_0009@Mar 23 2003, 12:09 PM
<span style="color:red"> as opposed to the candy-@$$ed 60's batman from the tv show]</span>
I beg to differ. The old Batman TV show with Adam West and Burt Ward was great. You have to understand that the reason it was so campy and corny was because it was supposed to be. That was the intention. It wasn't supposed to be some dramatic and suspensful show.
Darth Fabulous
03-23-2003, 10:32 PM
Hey Greg, you and jango know each other?
Obi-Wan
03-23-2003, 10:35 PM
<span style="color:blue">Yeah. Jango is a friend of mine who lives at the end of my street.</span>
Darth Fabulous
03-23-2003, 10:36 PM
Cool.
Rogue_0009
03-24-2003, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Darth Insightful+Mar 23 2003, 08:25 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Insightful @ Mar 23 2003, 08:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rogue_0009@Mar 23 2003, 12:09 PM
<span style="color:red"> as opposed to the candy-@$$ed 60's batman from the tv show]</span>
I beg to differ. The old Batman TV show with Adam West and Burt Ward was great. You have to understand that the reason it was so campy and corny was because it was supposed to be. That was the intention. It wasn't supposed to be some dramatic and suspensful show. [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:red">It still sucked</span>
RollaFett
03-25-2003, 10:26 PM
Hear, hear!
Darth Insightful
03-25-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Rogue_0009+Mar 24 2003, 08:06 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rogue_0009 @ Mar 24 2003, 08:06 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Darth Insightful@Mar 23 2003, 08:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Rogue_0009@Mar 23 2003, 12:09 PM
<span style="color:red"> as opposed to the candy-@$$ed 60's batman from the tv show]</span>
I beg to differ. The old Batman TV show with Adam West and Burt Ward was great. You have to understand that the reason it was so campy and corny was because it was supposed to be. That was the intention. It wasn't supposed to be some dramatic and suspensful show.
<span style="color:red">It still sucked</span> [/b][/quote]
Holy unsubstantiated opinion, Batman!
Well, since you put it so eloquently and made a series of well-informed, insightful points, I guess I have no choice but to agree with you.
Wait, no I don't.
Justin
03-25-2003, 11:37 PM
It's true, that show sucked, but I liked it, and I'd watch reruns of it if they still showed it on network TV.
Do I think any future incarnations of Batman TV shows or movies should be patterned after it? I'd rather die.
Darth Insightful
03-26-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Mar 25 2003, 10:37 PM
It's true, that show sucked, but I liked it, and I'd watch reruns of it if they still showed it on network TV.
Huh? I'm confused. I was operating under the assumption that people don't watch shows that they think suck. Maybe that's just me.
I think the show was great. Was it corny? Yes. Was it goofy? Absolutely. But that was the point. Hell, as bad as the last Batman movie was, I don't think it could have been hurt by Adam West showing up in his old costume and the original Batmobile. In fact, I'd wager that it would be a marked improvement. I watch the old series whenever I can. I believe you can see it late at night on TV Land. At least that was when it was on before Christmas, that's the last time I watched it.
Rogue_0009
03-26-2003, 09:44 PM
<span style="color:red">Well, if you want a reason for my opinion, lets start with the fact that the writers only used one stinkin' plot line for the entire series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
Jango
03-26-2003, 10:30 PM
me too
Darth Insightful
03-27-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Rogue_0009@Mar 26 2003, 08:44 PM
<span style="color:red">Well, if you want a reason for my opinion, lets start with the fact that the writers only used one stinkin' plot line for the entire series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
I'm not going to argue that point, because I agree with you. The villians were different, but the basic plot remained the same. However, can't we say that about a lot of shows, especially those involving super heroes? Bad guy hatches some nefarious plot, hero uncovers it and tracks down the evildoer. Hero and villain battle, hero is somehow incapacitated for a short time, then comes back to capture the bad guy, or at least stop his evil plan. You want to complain about the lack of originality, yet nearly every super hero TV show or movie follows this basic outline. Sure, there are alterations, and the characters all have their own stories that they bring, but when you strip everything else away, you're left with the same plot line.
Justin
03-27-2003, 12:32 AM
I'd like to see a Batman movie that's made to be as realistic as possible.
nerfer
03-27-2003, 12:38 AM
<span style="color:c1007e"><span style="font-family:comic sans ms">
We all would Justin, they need to never again let Joel Shumacher direct a Batman movie. He will always be remembered for the stupid Butt shot!</span></span>
Rogue_0009
03-27-2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Darth Insightful+Mar 26 2003, 10:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Insightful @ Mar 26 2003, 10:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rogue_0009@Mar 26 2003, 08:44 PM
<span style="color:red">Well, if you want a reason for my opinion, lets start with the fact that the writers only used one stinkin' plot line for the entire series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
I'm not going to argue that point, because I agree with you. The villians were different, but the basic plot remained the same. However, can't we say that about a lot of shows, especially those involving super heroes? Bad guy hatches some nefarious plot, hero uncovers it and tracks down the evildoer. Hero and villain battle, hero is somehow incapacitated for a short time, then comes back to capture the bad guy, or at least stop his evil plan. You want to complain about the lack of originality, yet nearly every super hero TV show or movie follows this basic outline. Sure, there are alterations, and the characters all have their own stories that they bring, but when you strip everything else away, you're left with the same plot line. [/b][/quote]
<span style="color:red">An excellent point. Although the dialogue in this one is cheesy beyond cheesy-ness.</span>
Darth Insightful
03-27-2003, 09:46 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>An excellent point. Although the dialogue in this one is cheesy beyond cheesy-ness. [/b][/quote]
Yet another point that I won't argue, because I agree with you. The dialogue was cheesy, however I think if you look at other shows of that time you'll see that all of them had what would be considered "cheesy dialogue" by today's standard. That was the great thing about the original Batman series. It wasn't afraid to be a little goofy and people loved the show because of it.
Jango
03-28-2003, 07:18 PM
Greg which cartoon series or movie series
Obi-Wan
03-28-2003, 09:44 PM
<span style="color:blue">Dude that's easy! Cartoon series! I love the ones that were made in 1997! Those are the best Batman toons! But the collest Batman costume is in the Justice League cartoon! That rocks! The last two Batman movies ruined the whole series! What's the deal with showing their butts?! It's just stupid man!</span>
Mark Skywalker
07-27-2005, 10:55 AM
<span style="color:#0000ff">The Hollywood Reporter</span> (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/home_video/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000992127) says that Warner Home Video (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#) will release a series of two-disc special editions of the four original "Batman (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#)" movies (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#) from the late 1980s and '90s.
Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#) and Batman & Robin will be released October 18. They will be available individually and as a gift set, "Batman: The Motion Picture Anthology 1989-1997."
Each special-edition DVD features a new digital transfer of the movie (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#). Bonus features include director commentaries by Joel Schumacher and Tim Burton (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331#), cast and crew interviews, several new documentaries, "making of" featurettes and nine music videos from Prince, Seal and the Smashing Pumpkins.
Source: <span style="color:#000000"> Superhero hype.</span> (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3331)
James T. Skywalker
07-27-2005, 12:35 PM
The only ones that were any good were the first two, so there's no real interest for me... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
~JTS
borgmatrix
07-27-2005, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by James T. Skywalker@Jul 27 2005, 03:35 PM
The only ones that were any good were the first two, so there's no real interest for me... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
~JTS
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Joel's supposedly working on a re-cut of "Batman Forever". If that's released in october, I'll definitely want to pick it up.
Mark Skywalker
07-27-2005, 02:41 PM
I'll get the box set, But I'm going burn the last one (batman & robin).
P-Ray
07-27-2005, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Mark Skywalker@Jul 27 2005, 12:41 PM
I'll get the box set, But I'm going burn the last one (batman & robin).
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That's why they put them in a boxset so you have to buy them all, IMO style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
RollaFett
07-29-2005, 02:33 PM
GGRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! This pisses me off. I would definately buy the first one, and maybe the second film. But as far as the last two films go...I simply don't want them. Oh well, it's like the Indy box set. I didn't want Temple of Doom, but didn't have a choice, dammit.
borgmatrix
07-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by GollaFett@Jul 29 2005, 05:33 PM
GGRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! This pisses me off. I would definately buy the first one, and maybe the second film. But as far as the last two films go...I simply don't want them. Oh well, it's like the Indy box set. I didn't want Temple of Doom, but didn't have a choice, dammit.
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But they'll be available individually, too, right?
Justin
07-30-2005, 03:01 AM
They will.
Ripley
07-30-2005, 11:39 AM
<span style="color:blue">I'll probably get the first two. Not sure about the last two. Tried watching Batman and Robin a couple weeks ago. Couldn't finish it.</span>
borgmatrix
07-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Ripley@Jul 30 2005, 02:39 PM
<span style="color:blue">I'll probably get the first two. Not sure about the last two. Tried watching Batman and Robin a couple weeks ago. Couldn't finish it.</span>
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I've only seen B&R once, and I think it's extremely likely that I'll never see it again.
P-Ray
08-04-2005, 12:38 AM
Batman boxset details!
http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=3366
Mark Skywalker
08-22-2005, 09:17 AM
Just spotted on Amazon that Warner are releasing a new Mask Of Phantasm dvd.
October = Batman DVD month
Here's the cover
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000A9QKLE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...?v=glance&s=dvd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000A9QKLE/qid=1121717242/sr=1-53/ref=sr_1_53/104-6195548-0297521?v=glance&s=dvd)
Mark Skywalker
08-24-2005, 06:51 PM
More BATMAN news.
Tv shows on dvd (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3968) have revealed that Volume 4 of Batman: The Animated Series/The New Batman Adventures Dvd ,will arrive in Stores on December 6th.
This should be the last of the animated Warner Bros releases coming on December 6; the fourth volume of Batman: The Animated Series, which includes 24 episodes from The New Batman Adventures.
In the hit show that continues the Batman storyline from the Emmy®-winning Batman: The Animated Series, two years have passed and Batman still protects the streets of Gotham City from the demented criminals that inhabit its dark alleys. But irreconcilable differences with Dick Grayson lead to the collapse of the Batman/Robin crimefighting duo and to the birth of Gotham's new hero Nightwing. Batgirl fights at Batman's side, and a new Robin takes flight after Batman's chance encounter with young Tim Drake. In these 24 thrilling episodes, the Gotham Knights face their worst enemies - Joker, Penguin, Mr. Freeze and many more - in a comprehensive 4-disc set that completes the Batman animated saga!
Unfortunately that's all we know for now, though we assume the set will contain some bonus features. Suggested retail price is $44.98; we'll have artwork when it's made available.
Mark Skywalker
08-24-2005, 08:46 PM
Here is BTAS vol.4 dvd art cover
http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news1/BatmanVol4.jpg
and more Extras will include:
* Commentary on "Over the Edge", "Critters" and "Legends of the Dark Knight" by Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, Glen Murakami, James Tucker, Dan Riba and Moderator Jason Hillhouse
* Arkham's Finest: Inside Batman's Rogue Gallery featurette
Justin
08-25-2005, 03:31 AM
I thought there were more than four seasons.
BTW, Mask of the Phantasm is the best screen interpretation of Batman so far, in my opinion. Batman Begins was great, but Mask of the Phantasm captured the character and his world a bit better.
Mark Skywalker
08-25-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 24 2005, 10:31 PM
I thought there were more than four seasons.
BTW, Mask of the Phantasm is the best screen interpretation of Batman so far, in my opinion. Batman Begins was great, but Mask of the Phantasm captured the character and his world a bit better.
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There is 6 season in total, but for the dvd they did it in volumes (volume.1 has season 1 & 2 episodes.) (Volume.2 has season 3 & 4 episodes) (Volume.3 has season 5 episodes) (volume.4 has season 6 episodes)
I totally agree . style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif
borgmatrix
08-26-2005, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by Justin@Aug 25 2005, 06:31 AM
BTW, Mask of the Phantasm is the best screen interpretation of Batman so far, in my opinion. Batman Begins was great, but Mask of the Phantasm captured the character and his world a bit better.
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Well...I don't know. Both are great. MOTP's great contribution was the Bruce/Andrea romance and Bruce's unexpected chance to live a happy life. I absolutely loved that scene at his parents' grave during which he pleads for them to let him off the hook and allow him to choose another path. Definitely great stuff. And the Phantasm story and Joker's involvement were both great.
But "Begins" also made a nice contribution to Batman's origins by making Bruce the catalyst for his parents' leaving the performance early, and thereby placing some responsibility on him. His burden then, as Batman, took on whole new meaning. And that was all beautifully filmed.
I also greatly enjoyed the portrayal of Batman striking from the shadows, unseen, against Falcone's men. That put us in the bad guys shoes as we experienced Batman from a different perspective. There was a greater sense of the brutality and chaos Batman creates than in any other movie, including MOTP.
Overall, as great as MOTP is, "Begins" I think strikes more of a chord because it's a live action movie filmed with as much realism as possible. Gotham felt far more corrupt, almost beyond saving. Batman came across as more threatening, the fear he inspires more palpable (think of the Flass interrogation). I love MOTP, but "Begins" was able to go farther. Partially because of the higher rating. Partially because it's live action and not animated.
Mark Skywalker
08-26-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by borgmatrix+Aug 25 2005, 07:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(borgmatrix @ Aug 25 2005, 07:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Justin@Aug 25 2005, 06:31 AM
BTW, Mask of the Phantasm is the best screen interpretation of Batman so far, in my opinion. Batman Begins was great, but Mask of the Phantasm captured the character and his world a bit better.
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Well...I don't know. Both are great. MOTP's great contribution was the Bruce/Andrea romance and Bruce's unexpected chance to live a happy life. I absolutely loved that scene at his parents' grave during which he pleads for them to let him off the hook and allow him to choose another path. Definitely great stuff. And the Phantasm story and Joker's involvement were both great.
But "Begins" also made a nice contribution to Batman's origins by making Bruce the catalyst for his parents' leaving the performance early, and thereby placing some responsibility on him. His burden then, as Batman, took on whole new meaning. And that was all beautifully filmed.
I also greatly enjoyed the portrayal of Batman striking from the shadows, unseen, against Falcone's men. That put us in the bad guys shoes as we experienced Batman from a different perspective. There was a greater sense of the brutality and chaos Batman creates than in any other movie, including MOTP.
Overall, as great as MOTP is, "Begins" I think strikes more of a chord because it's a live action movie filmed with as much realism as possible. Gotham felt far more corrupt, almost beyond saving. Batman came across as more threatening, the fear he inspires more palpable (think of the Flass interrogation). I love MOTP, but "Begins" was able to go farther. Partially because of the higher rating. Partially because it's live action and not animated.
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Before BEGINS , MOTP was the best BATMAN film ever made. Now BEGINS is the best,along with MOTP, no other batman flim is as good as these two. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif
borgmatrix
08-26-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Mark Skywalker@Aug 26 2005, 04:03 PM
Before BEGINS , MOTP was the best BATMAN film ever made. Now BEGINS is the best,along with MOTP, no other batman flim is as good as these two. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif
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I'll agree with that. I'll admit my personal preference is for ROTJ over MOTP, but I think it's probably true that MOTP is a fuller (or is that more full?) experience.
I liked ROTJ more because the weight it carried in essentially being the final confrontation between Batman and Joker. The Joker is probably Batman's greatest villain, and so to get a glimpse at their final encounter, and then to see Joker return, somehow, 40 years later to threaten the city again...well, that was just thrilling for me. There was so much intensity and I thought the Joker had never appeared more frightening. Mark Hamill, as brilliant as he's always been as the Joker, took his vocal performance to another level. And there were so many powerful scenes.
But I'll definitely agree MOTP and Begins were near equally great, and would personally toss ROTJ in alongside them.
Mark Skywalker
08-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by borgmatrix+Aug 26 2005, 10:41 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(borgmatrix @ Aug 26 2005, 10:41 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Mark Skywalker@Aug 26 2005, 04:03 PM
Before BEGINS , MOTP was the best BATMAN film ever made. Now BEGINS is the best,along with MOTP, no other batman flim is as good as these two. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happydance.gif
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I'll agree with that. I'll admit my personal preference is for ROTJ over MOTP, but I think it's probably true that MOTP is a fuller (or is that more full?) experience.
I liked ROTJ more because the weight it carried in essentially being the final confrontation between Batman and Joker. The Joker is probably Batman's greatest villain, and so to get a glimpse at their final encounter, and then to see Joker return, somehow, 40 years later to threaten the city again...well, that was just thrilling for me. There was so much intensity and I thought the Joker had never appeared more frightening. Mark Hamill, as brilliant as he's always been as the Joker, took his vocal performance to another level. And there were so many powerful scenes.
But I'll definitely agree MOTP and Begins were near equally great, and would personally toss ROTJ in alongside them.
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I agree ROTJ was fantastic movie (When I first saw it I thought It would have been cool if Bruce battle The joker for the last time as BATMAN (in the beyond suit.)instead of Terry, <div onClick="openClose('ee86c8a4d333923bc26e01699794abca')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="ee86c8a4d333923bc26e01699794abca" style="display:none">But after watching the JLU season 4 finale episode ("Epilogue") and finding out That Terry is actully Bruce's Son. </div>Re-watching ROTJ with that info makes ROTJ even better than the first time I saw it. so I agree with you.
(1)BATMAN BEGINS, BATMAN : Mask of the Phantasm, BATMAN BEYOND : Retrun of The Joker
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