JMH's Journey Through the EU

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I thought that as someone who is new to SW EU I would share my experiences as I work through the EU timeline. It is quite daunting with so many books, but I have been lucky in that various other Senators have helped answer my questions and given me timelines etc. If you want a SW timeline there are a few good ones out there – but I can recommend this link:

http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=17449

Thanks to JackBauer24 for providing that link, I hope you will take the time to look at the information he has spent a lot of time producing. Plus, as he is a Senator, if you have any questions, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer them.

Now, I may well be nearly 30 years behind some people, but I started reading the EU last Christmas, when I received the ROTS novelisation and Rise of Darth Vader. I really enjoyed both of them but I will read them again and talk about them when I get to them in the timeline. Before that time I had only seen the movies, but I have now seen the Clone Wars cartoons as well. My initial impression of the EU is very good. I have never read any SW comics and I do not intend to read the young adult books, at least until I have read all the adult novels anyway!

So, before I begin sharing my journey with you, just a couple of notes on this thread. Firstly I would be grateful if people could avoid spoilers for novels that I have not yet got to. I will probably ask questions about what I have read and so if the information I am going to be given is in a future book then please simply tell me that.

Secondly your comments and observations are more than welcome, I hope you enjoy joining me as I journey through the EU. Please note that I will not have time to write a full critique of each book and so will focus on what I enjoyed or disliked. Maybe if there are other Senators who wish to start reading the EU they might find this thread interesting.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Darth Maul: Saboteur by James Luceno.

To embark on this long journey, I downloaded Darth Maul: Saboteur (an ebook Novella). I feel it gave me an insight as to what reading the EU would be like. I was disappointed that there was not more background of Maul in it, but it was good to get to know his character a bit better.

It seems to me as if Maul had almost been brain washed by Darth Sidious, all Maul wanted to do was to not fail him and defeat the Jedi, as he had been instructed from a very young age. The book seemed to be little more than an early scene setter but is a reasonable, easy to read work to begin the EU with. I was left hoping that the EU would generally better this novella.

Rating: 3 out of 5.

[Fallen One]

Nice thread bro good Idea here's a little something for you try this site out they have tons of comics, novels anything you can think of etc. You should give it a look:

http://swtimeline.ru/

:wink:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Nice thread bro good Idea here's a little something for you try this site out they have tons of comics, novels anything you can think of etc. You should give it a look:

http://swtimeline.ru/

:wink:

Yeah, thanks, not only do I now have to spend hours reading hundreds of books, I need a crash course in Russian! :blink:

[Fallen One]

Yeah, thanks, not only do I now have to spend hours reading hundreds of books, I need a crash course in Russian! :blink: You did not see the left boxes in english Old republic era etc?:scratchchin:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

You did not see the left boxes in english Old republic era etc?:scratchchin:

Ah, I'm with you now - I thought you were pulling my leg originally - cool, thanks! :)

[JackBauer24]

If you want a SW timeline there are a few good ones out there – but I can recommend this link:

http://characterlist.njoe.com/Star%20Wars%20Timeline.pdf

Thanks to JackBauer24 for providing that link, I hope you will take the time to look at the information he has spent a lot of time producing. Plus, as he is a Senator, if you have any questions, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer them.


Thanks for the plug, JMH! And I will continue to work on the timeline...so any corrections or questions, just let me know. The newest update is going up shortly.

[Darill Cyllem]

JMH - great idea for a thread!
Definitely some of the books are a great deal better than the others. If you lived near me, i could lend you most of them... unless you are starting in on your own collection! I think you'll enjoy Darth Maul Shadow Hunter a great deal more than Saboteur. In my experience, the e-novellas generally leave a bit to be desired.
One book i thought was just awful was Jedi Trial (happens a bit later in the prequels) - very poorly written, IMO. You don't need to read it for the information (a different, and, i think, better part of how Anakin's Jedi trials are protrayed in the Clone Wars cartoons), and could easily skip it.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter by Michael Reaves

Thank you Darill. I am buying each book as I finish the one before, so before too long I should have a nice collection of my own. :)

I have read Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter (I am writing this thread somewhat retrospectively - I'm on Oubound Flight now) and would give it 4 out of 5. I really enjoyed the storyline and also the new characters, inculding Lorn, Assant and I-Five. It was good to read about Maul in action, though I am somewhat disappointed about his outlook on his life, I had hoped there would be more to him than simply a loyal servant of Sidious who didn't ask questions. But that didn't detract from what was an enjoyable read.

[Darill Cyllem]

I'll be interested to hear what you think of Outbound Flight, as i read the Zahn books in the order they were released, as opposed to chronological order... would make it interesting. I wonder if anything would be confusing.
Keep us posted!
AOTC is probably my favorite sw novel... i laughed, i cried, i couldn't put it down! And i'd already seen the movie several times....

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I also loved AOTC

[Darth Relentless]

Good to see you followed my idea by making this thread JMH ;) :D

Seriously though, as someone who also has to embark through the EU, this thread should be helpful. Well in bud!

[Sam Kenobi]

Here's what I think about the EU literature. It depends on each individual, but I don't think most people enjoy striclty starting at the prequels and going straight through. That may be just an individual preference thing. The two jumping off points are obviously the beginnings of each Era. So if you ever get bored of the Prequels, you might decide to read a Classic Trilogy novel.

And are you reading every novel? Because IIRC, there are a few in between Darth Maul and Outbound Flight. Like Cloak of Deception and The Approaching Storm. The movie tie-ins.

And a last comment / question. Personally, if it's not to late, I would hold off on reading Outbound Flight. If you don't know, Zahn wrote six other books before that. But they started after the end of the Classic Trilogy. Outbound Flight is the last in that series, because it goes back and reveals the background story. Very similar how Lucas released the Classic Trilogy then the Prequel Trilogy.

:censored: Possible not-really important spoiler: IIRC, there's really nothing that important in that novel, in the sense that it won't really change how you look at the prequels. Personally, it's just more fun to read it after you've read the others. Would you watch the Prequels then the Classics, or the other way around? For the first time, for a newcommer, you'd recommend the Classics first. But, obviously, it's up to you. :censored:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Here's what I think about the EU literature. It depends on each individual, but I don't think most people enjoy striclty starting at the prequels and going straight through. That may be just an individual preference thing. The two jumping off points are obviously the beginnings of each Era. So if you ever get bored of the Prequels, you might decide to read a Classic Trilogy novel.

And are you reading every novel? Because IIRC, there are a few in between Darth Maul and Outbound Flight. Like Cloak of Deception and The Approaching Storm. The movie tie-ins.

And a last comment / question. Personally, if it's not to late, I would hold off on reading Outbound Flight. If you don't know, Zahn wrote six other books before that. But they started after the end of the Classic Trilogy. Outbound Flight is the last in that series, because it goes back and reveals the background story. Very similar how Lucas released the Classic Trilogy then the Prequel Trilogy.

Possible not-really important spoiler: IIRC, there's really nothing that important in that novel, in the sense that it won't really change how you look at the prequels. Personally, it's just more fun to read it after you've read the others. Would you watch the Prequels then the Classics, or the other way around? For the first time, for a newcommer, you'd recommend the Classics first. But, obviously, it's up to you.

Thanks for your ideas Sam. It's an interesting concept, as to which order one should read the novels in. Rather like someone who is new to the films - do you show them i - vi or iv - vi then i - iii? Would the OT be considered more classic by someone who watched them in this order? I guess it's all down to personal preferences.

I have decided to start from right at the beginning and work through. So far I have enjoyed all the novels apart from Rogue Planet - I will explain why when I get to that novel!

Yes, I am reading them in order, I am ahead of my posts, simply for the reason that I don't want to post all my thoughts at once as 1. No-one likes to read long posts and 2. If I don't finish another book for 2 or 3 weeks the thread will look dead.

I only mentioned I had got up to Outbound Flight as Darill mentioned a Shadow Hunter, which I have read but hadn't posted about at the time. I see why you got confused now - somehow the post I wrote about Cloak of Deception hasn't been posted. :scratchchin: I remember writing it! I will post it now! :blush: A cracking start to a supposedly informative thread eh?! :banghead:

To summarise, by the next post I will have considered:

Darth Maul: Saboteur
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

I have read about half of Outbound Flight, so I figure I may as well finish it now - I will be like a youngster watching the PT before the OT. Wow, I can't even imagine what that would be like!

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Cloak of Deception by James Luceno (yes, I know this should have come before Darth Maul Shadow Hunter, I messed up!)


Here is the missing post I wrote about the first full novel in the PT saga, Cloak of Deception:

Next up was the first full length novel, Cloak of Deception and if Saboteur had left me hoping for more from the EU, then COD certainly didn’t disappoint.

One of the aspects of the PT that I enjoy the most is the whole political climate and how it develops and eventually implodes. In this respect, COD made the events at the start of TPM clearer and provides the background for the political scene during the PT movies.

The book developed several characters, which I found interesting and the political events were well written. Of course, all this meant that the novel was devoid of much serious action but that didn’t really lessen the enjoyment for me. Learning just how devious Sidious could be and obtaining more of an insight as to Qui-Gon’s character made up for the lack of screen time that these aspects were given. Character’s feelings can be summed up a lot more easily in a book than in a film and it is particularly enjoyable to find out exactly how various characters thought. Rating: 4 out of 5.

[Darill Cyllem]

I tend to like books better than movies, too! I can't wait 'til you get to AOTC!!

[thepepgal]

I feel you should also read the some of the young adults books (more specifically the "Young Jedi Knights" series) since they introduce characters you will see in the adult series that follows so you will have more of an insight and understanding of them. These books are intend for young teenages so aren't too bad from an adults point of view.

Mind you, you have a fair way to go before you get there. :wink:

[Darill Cyllem]

Be warned, though, JMH, the Young Jedi Knights books (I read most of them, back in the day), are by Kevin J. Anderson - one of my least favorite sw authors. Unfortunately, you will not be able to avoid Anderson. *sigh*
Not sure how much you need to read them... i didn't read the Junior Jedi Knights series (mostly about Anakin, the YJK are mostly about Jacen and Jaina), and didn't feel like i missed a whole lot of one of the characters who comes up later (Tahiri) - in fact, she was one of the NJO characters i like best....
Though... i don't know what i'm missing, do i? :wink:

[Sam Kenobi]

Agreed. During their time, I really enjoyed Anakin and Tahiri.

It is a wonder how some of the most importatn EU literature was written by Anderson. For me, it's not that I don't like his writing style too much, it's just to young for me.

And it doesn't help that the plotlines aren't that interesting. It's just the overall ideas that are important.

Does anyone know if they ever finished Onimbus-ing that series? Last I checked, there were only two three-book onimbuses out.

[Darill Cyllem]

That's all i've seen, too, Sam. You should check out the sw novel collecting thread - we love discussing that sort of thing.

We all anxiously await JMH's next entry....

[thepepgal]

Be warned, though, JMH, the Young Jedi Knights books (I read most of them, back in the day), are by Kevin J. Anderson - one of my least favorite sw authors. Unfortunately, you will not be able to avoid Anderson. *sigh*
Not sure how much you need to read them... i didn't read the Junior Jedi Knights series (mostly about Anakin, the YJK are mostly about Jacen and Jaina), and didn't feel like i missed a whole lot of one of the characters who comes up later (Tahiri) - in fact, she was one of the NJO characters i like best....
Though... i don't know what i'm missing, do i? :wink:

I have actually read them all and I don't mind Kevin's writing. For the record he did co-write the Young Jedi Knight series with his wife Rebecca Moesta.

I have found it interesting and amusing how events and characters are transferred over from these series to the adult books. I accept they aren't written with the depth adults books are but provide an insight and an introduction to characters.

[Sam Kenobi]

That's all i've seen, too, Sam. You should check out the sw novel collecting thread - we love discussing that sort of thing.

We all anxiously await JMH's next entry....

Done, haha.

I have actually read them all and I don't mind Kevin's writing. For the record he did co-write the Young Jedi Knight series with his wife Rebecca Moesta.

I have found it interesting and amusing how events and characters are transferred over from these series to the adult books. I accept they aren't written with the depth adults books are but provide an insight and an introduction to characters.

That's what makes them interesting to read. Since they were accepted, they've become interesting to read. A lot of the NJO dealed with those two series.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Finally I have a spare few minutes to update this thread!

I think with regard to any books aimed at young adults that I will wait until I have read all the adult novels first, then if I feel I would like to read all the extra books, I will do so then. I just think there are so many novels to read as it is, it may take me far too long to get where I want to - I want to know what happens to Luke, Leia, Han et al after ROTJ! But please, no-one tell me yet! :)


The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks


Next in the timeline came The Phantom Menance. At the risk of being boring with my grading I would also give this 4 out of 5. For a start Jar Jar seems less offensive in the book!

There is a passage that I found enthralling and raced through reading and re-read 3 times before moving on. It involves Anakin and a Tuskan Raider. Now whether this is something that Terry Brooks added, or whether it was GL's idea I have no idea. But the passage really got to me and I thought it was excellently written and a stark contrast as to what what would happen in the future.

To me, the novel seemed more like a movie than the previous 2 novels (which of course, would make sense) in that it seemed to deal very well with the action but perhaps not so well with the thoughts and feelings of characters. This may also be down to the style of the author, but I do not feel qualified to start comparing writing styles of SW authors, not yet anyway!

I have a question relating to TPM though. In the novel it states that Qui-Gon looked at the Jedi council members and that 'most were Jedi Masters like himself'. If most of them were Jedi Masters, what and who were the others? Anyone got any information on this?

[Cydon]

:lol: Never caught that. Enjoy the EU, JMH.

[Sam Kenobi]

That would be a continuity error. If it means that not all of the members on the council were Masters. Anakin says in RotS, he was the only one to be on the council and not be a master.

But according to the Star Wars CCG (and other sources that I don't recall) Ki-Adi Mundi was not a master when he was appointed to the council. When he was made a master, I'm not sure. I think that he was one by TPM.

But all the Jedi in the council chambers accept Obi-Wan are Masters.

[thepepgal]

That would be a continuity error. If it means that not all of the members on the council were Masters. Anakin says in RotS, he was the only one to be on the council and not be a master.

But according to the Star Wars CCG (and other sources that I don't recall) Ki-Adi Mundi was not a master when he was appointed to the council. When he was made a master, I'm not sure. I think that he was one by TPM.

But all the Jedi in the council chambers accept Obi-Wan are Masters.

Actually the OS entry shows that while he was already on the council, he was actually going through the rise to Master status while the Naboo crisis was happening. Hence when they tested Anakin he may not have been a Jedi Master.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kiadimundi/?id=eu

[Darill Cyllem]

I gather from a different post that you have read / are reading The Approaching Storm. I found that quite enjoyable - looking forward to the review....

[thepepgal]

I gather from a different post that you have read / are reading The Approaching Storm. I found that quite enjoyable - looking forward to the review....

I also enjoy it especially since it was the tie in to AOTC.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

That would be a continuity error. If it means that not all of the members on the council were Masters. Anakin says in RotS, he was the only one to be on the council and not be a master.

But according to the Star Wars CCG (and other sources that I don't recall) Ki-Adi Mundi was not a master when he was appointed to the council. When he was made a master, I'm not sure. I think that he was one by TPM.

But all the Jedi in the council chambers accept Obi-Wan are Masters.

Actually the OS entry shows that while he was already on the council, he was actually going through the rise to Master status while the Naboo crisis was happening. Hence when they tested Anakin he may not have been a Jedi Master.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kiadimundi/?id=eu

Thank you for your information, Sam & Pep. I am happier now that I know it is a technicallity rather than the Jedi council having what in my mind would be inappropriate members.

I gather from a different post that you have read / are reading The Approaching Storm. I found that quite enjoyable - looking forward to the review....

Now Darill, you are going to get me confused if I start talking about books 3 ahead of where I am on my posts - I already made one mistake in the thread! :lol: Patience is a virtue of the Jedi. :)

[Darill Cyllem]

Now Darill, you are going to get me confused if I start talking about books 3 ahead of where I am on my posts - I already made one mistake in the thread! :lol: Patience is a virtue of the Jedi. :)

What mistake?

I'm just encouraging you to get cracking with the posts here since you're apparently farther ahead on reading than the posts would indicate. So... get cracking!
:whip:

patience is not one of my virtues... i'm working on it.
sort of.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Rogue Planet by Greg Bear


After TPM, the next novel is Rogue Planet.

I really did not like the start of this novel, obviously I expect the EU to bring in new ideas and concepts not in the films, but I really didn't like the idea of young Anakin going off and taking part in illegal races.

Fortunately this element of the book did not last long and then Obi-Wan and Anakin were off to attempt to find out what had happened to Vergere, who I am very curious about, having been told little about her.

Whilst initially their adventure seemed interesting, it soon began to drag on and the reader was given little information. I found this very frustrating and found it hard to keep making the effort to read, when normally with SW books I am eager to get to the next chapter! The mystery went on for over a hundred pages, which to me could have been easily dealt with in about a tenth of that space.

The ending on the other hand seemed to be dealt with all too quick and then the book was over. The Jedi hadn't really found out much about Vergere, although I know that something that will become prominent in future EU was introduced in this novel. I felt I learnt little about Anakin and it would have been more revealing of what was happening inside him if his first kill had been described in greater detail.

So far, this is the only book that I would really struggle to read again. I would rate it as only 2 out of 5. Now obviously that is just my opinion and to anyone also intending to read all the EU novels (I don't want a battering from the EUDF!), I would recommend they read them all, as everyone has different tastes. If anyone has any thoughts or comments as to anything that might add to my experience of reading this book, then I would welcome them.

[JackBauer24]

^ Rogue Planet isn't that good on its own, but when you take into account the effect its events have 50 years down the road, it's somewhat easier to take.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

What mistake?

I'm just encouraging you to get cracking with the posts here since you're apparently farther ahead on reading than the posts would indicate. So... get cracking!
:whip:

patience is not one of my virtues... i'm working on it.
sort of.

The mistake was missing out Cloak of Deception, which I later rectified! I don't want to catch up too quickly as otherwise later on you will be waiting a few weeks as I don't always get that much time to read! But if you are going to whip me then that might be just the encouragement I need. :wink: *Heads off to read more*

[Darill Cyllem]

JMH, you might find Rogue Planet more engaging once you have more info on Vergere. That's not the book where her character is introduced, and you've got a loooooong way to go (chronologically) before your get there (the NJO books).
But you know, you'll get ups and downs in the EU. Some are great. Others... you might have to talk yourself into finishing. But i'll keep which of the latter were that way for me to myself for now. Wouldn't want to spoil the surprises for you :)

[Sam Kenobi]

^ Rogue Planet isn't that good on its own, but when you take into account the effect its events have 50 years down the road, it's somewhat easier to take.

Agreed. The scope and importance, as well as the storyline of RP increase dramatically in the future of Star Wars.

I seem to remember liking the race scene, because it shows that Anakin is not the perfect little angel. It's like the very start of his descent to the Dark Side.

[JackBauer24]

^ My problem with that "start of his descent" angle is that RP was the first in a long series of books that insist on showing how he's turning to the dark side. And the characters themselves see it! I mean, if you were reading them without any prior knowledge of the films, you'd know he was gonna go evil right from the start. It's like in Clancy's Red Rabbit, written in 2002 but set in 1981, where everyone in the US government seems to KNOW that the Soviet Union is gonna collapse, when at that time NO ONE predicted its collapse at all. It was annoying then and it's annoying in the Prequel-era serieses.

[Sam Kenobi]

I see your point, and can't really argue it because I read it years ago.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

From what I have read so far, there do seem to be too many clues that there was something inside Anakin eating him up and sending him down that dark path. It just seems that they all think that as he is so powerful with the force that he will learn to control whatever his problem is and they believe that Kenobi is the right mentor to teach him. Maybe if they had just talked more to Anakin, probed him to share what he was feeling...........

[Darth Massacrus]

JMH: may I offer my expertise on EU stuff from time to time?

[JackBauer24]

From what I have read so far, there do seem to be too many clues that there was something inside Anakin eating him up and sending him down that dark path. It just seems that they all think that as he is so powerful with the force that he will learn to control whatever his problem is and they believe that Kenobi is the right mentor to teach him. Maybe if they had just talked more to Anakin, probed him to share what he was feeling...........

The funny side effect of this is it makes the Jedi Council and Obi-Wan look INCREDIBLY incompetent.

[Darth Massacrus]

^yeah, there is that, too....I did like the part where Anakin and Wilhuff Tarkin first meet, though (their freindship wont star till later, though....)

[Jedi Master Harrison]

JMH: may I offer my expertise on EU stuff from time to time?

Absolutely, the more information I can get the better - but please, no spoilers from novels that I have not read yet. I am determined to read them all (well all the adult ones first), but I think at the pace of a novel about once a fortnight it may take me a while! :lol:

The funny side effect of this is it makes the Jedi Council and Obi-Wan look INCREDIBLY incompetent.

Yes and I find that frustrating. Sometimes though I suppose we can all get so wrapped up in things that we miss the obvious and simple things right in front of us.

[Sam Kenobi]

^yeah, there is that, too....I did like the part where Anakin and Wilhuff Tarkin first meet, though (their freindship wont star till later, though....)

I forgot about that aspect. I enjoyed the backstory of both Tarkin and Raith Sienar. IIRC, Sienar was somewhat coerced and tricked into giving his services.

[Darth Massacrus]

^for more on Wilhuff Tarkin, read Cloak of Deception......

[Sam Kenobi]

That's on my reread list.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn


Okay, well, after the disappointment of Rogue Planet, I wondered whether the quality of the books which were slightly more removed from the films would be less (IMO). So I picked up the next in the series with some trepidation:

Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn. What can I say........this book was aw......some! A definite 4.5 out of 5, it held my attention superbly and I couldn't wait to read each passage as I finished the last, a real 'don't want to put it down'. :w00t:

Outbound Flight is superbly written and well-paced, in my eyes a SW story almost outside of SW. The characters are developed brilliantly and are really interesting. Although you know it is all going to go off at some point, I certainly never anticipated the way in which the book was to pan out. I think this book had a bit of everything in it. It certainly showed the direction that certain Jedi were going in and their flaws, along with the ability to influence others.

I can't wait for more Zahn and I believe that reading this novel may well be a high point of my journey............:)

[Darill Cyllem]

Zahn is hands down my favorite sw author. You're always in for a good read with his books.
You'll really enjoy the outbound flight tie-ins that come later in the chronology.

[thepepgal]

Okay, well, after the disappointment of Rogue Planet, I wondered whether the quality of the books which were slightly more removed from the films would be less (IMO). So I picked up the next in the series with some trepidation:

Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn. What can I say........this book was aw......some! A definite 4.5 out of 5, it held my attention superbly and I couldn't wait to read each passage as I finished the last, a real 'don't want to put it down'. :w00t:

Outbound Flight is superbly written and well-paced, in my eyes a SW story almost outside of SW. The characters are developed brilliantly and are really interesting. Although you know it is all going to go off at some point, I certainly never anticipated the way in which the book was to pan out. I think this book had a bit of everything in it. It certainly showed the direction that certain Jedi were going in and their flaws, along with the ability to influence others.

I can't wait for more Zahn and I believe that reading this novel may well be a high point of my journey............:)

That's scares me JMH since if it is your high point everything else is downhill from there on. :worried:

There are still many wonderful books to come. I found Outbound a bit slow for the first half but once they were on their way it was good. Zahn is one of the great SW and scifi writers.

[JackBauer24]

Okay, well, after the disappointment of Rogue Planet, I wondered whether the quality of the books which were slightly more removed from the films would be less (IMO). So I picked up the next in the series with some trepidation:

Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn. What can I say........this book was aw......some! A definite 4.5 out of 5, it held my attention superbly and I couldn't wait to read each passage as I finished the last, a real 'don't want to put it down'. :w00t:

Outbound Flight is superbly written and well-paced, in my eyes a SW story almost outside of SW. The characters are developed brilliantly and are really interesting. Although you know it is all going to go off at some point, I certainly never anticipated the way in which the book was to pan out. I think this book had a bit of everything in it. It certainly showed the direction that certain Jedi were going in and their flaws, along with the ability to influence others.

I can't wait for more Zahn and I believe that reading this novel may well be a high point of my journey............:)


Here's some good news, JMH...OF wasn't even the best Zahn novel. There's some REALLY great ones to come. You haven't seen the last of Car'das or Thrawn or even C'baoth!

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Well, I look forward to my future readings then! Don't worry Pep, I'm sure that there will be other books I will enjoy as much. Every journey has its highs and lows. I mean, only 1 novel so far has disappointed me. :)

[thepepgal]

Well, I look forward to my future readings then! Don't worry Pep, I'm sure that there will be other books I will enjoy as much. Every journey has its highs and lows. I mean, only 1 novel so far has disappointed me. :)

:thumbs-up: Great to hear JMH.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster


Alright, well next on the reading list is The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster. After what I would term as a bit of a break from the PT (as Outbound Flight had little effect on this story really), it was good to get back to watching Anakin develop.

Luminara is an extremely interesting character and it was also good to see how Anakin related to another Padawan, Barriss Offee. The journey that the four of them embarked on was intriguing from the very beginning and the landscapes and species that they came across were well described. A thoroughly enjoyable read and always I just couldn't wait to get to the next passage.

The only thing that has disappointed me in the PT era novels is the lack of in depth analysis of characters like Darth Maul and Anakin. I really want to know fully what made them tick and what made them the way they were. To me, the issues are skirted around, rather than being explicitly discussed and whilst I am happy to put forward my own ideas as to why characters behaved the way they did, it would be better to have definitive reasons, IMO. However, this is not a direct criticism of the novel The Approaching Storm, which I would rate as 4 out of 5. :)

Next up, Attack of The Clones, I wonder how the romance between Anakin and Padme is written..................:scratchchin:

[Sam Kenobi]

I do recall enjoying all of the PT movie novelizations; especially RotS.

[Darill Cyllem]

Are you reading a bunch of other EU threads, JMH? :mad:

Don't do it! There's too many spoilers! Let it all be a surprise! A story's always better when you don't know what's going to happen. :yoda:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

See, I am so scared of you D.C. that I couldn't even reply for 2 days! :nahnah:

No, I try to avoid other EU threads, however, just from general SW discussion over the years I know a little of what I will read in the future, i.e. Chewie killed by a moon, Han and Leia have kids, 1 dies, 1 becomes evil and so on. I think you are referring to the how should Luke die thread, which I read as I am intrigued to know why so many people dislike Luke, when he was the character I always wanted to be as a child!

I don't want to spoil the story, but having said that, I already knew the outcome of ROTS and I still really enjoyed that! :wink:

Anyway, I have a SW question and I will offer rep points for the first person to give me the correct answer................

In AOTC, in the arena on Geonosis, when the Jedi show up to rescue Anakin and Obi-Wan, lightsabers are thrown to Anakin and Obi-Wan. Who throws them?

[thepepgal]

It was Sephjet Josall and Nicanas Tassu who gave Obi Wan and Anakin lightsabers.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Wow, how do you know that?! I have read the novel and watched the film but could not see it anywhere - thanks Pep! :)

[thepepgal]

Wow, how do you know that?! I have read the novel and watched the film but could not see it anywhere - thanks Pep! :)

Wookieepedia is a great source for the minor characters' names. I did check the novel first but all it says on page 325 which only mentions other jedi.

Here is the link and even includes a picture of them so it could be confirm on who threw the lightsabers.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sephjet_Josall

and

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nicanas_Tassu

[Jedi Master Harrison]

That's cool, thanks! But what I don't get is, if it's not in the novel, then how are the names decided upon? Would they be named in the cedits for the film? I just get the feeling that even by reading the novels I may still be missing out on SW information. :scratchchin:

[thepepgal]

That's cool, thanks! But what I don't get is, if it's not in the novel, then how are the names decided upon? Would they be named in the cedits for the film? I just get the feeling that even by reading the novels I may still be missing out on SW information. :scratchchin:

They aren't in the credits either. At some point LFL and the gamers give all the characters names so they can be identified for roleplaying purposes etc. But lets face it, do you really need to know the names of characters that die 5 minutes later?:scratchchin:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ I suppose not. It just intrigues me that I read a passage somewhere on a message board about Darth Maul and despite him having been killed some time ago during my journey I have never seen the passage again! Maybe it was in a young adult book..................

[Darill Cyllem]

See, I am so scared of you D.C. that I couldn't even reply for 2 days! :nahnah:

No, I try to avoid other EU threads, however, just from general SW discussion over the years I know a little of what I will read in the future, i.e. Chewie killed by a moon, Han and Leia have kids,


Oohh... i wish you didn't know! I blame myself for Chewie, though... from the Sithlycrumb Younglings.... I hope it wasn't me who spoiled that for you! :(

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Yep, it was all your fault and I will never forgive you for it!

I'm just playing :wink: , I read it somewhere ages ago, before joining the Senate even. By reading most of the threads here, I am bound to pick up bits of info here and there.

[Cydon]

About Wookiepedia, it can be edited by anyone, so those names could be made up.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ That's true, they sound like good wholesome Jedi names though. :) Don't people write in, if information is wrong?

[thepepgal]

About Wookiepedia, it can be edited by anyone, so those names could be made up.

Very true but I could find it no where else and someone has to make the name up. :wink:

[JackBauer24]

JMH....the best place to go for information like this would be the official site's Books, Comics & Television forum (the BCAT). There, there's a thread called "Welcome some BCAT ViPs" where you can ask the ViPs of SW Lit (the editors, the people who keep canon) questions like that. It's the best place to start.

And also, please take my word for this: stay away from the Wookieepedia. Since anyone can edit it, there is no way to verify the information that it has. With you just getting into the EU, it'd be really easy for you to get misinformation from them that will just end up confusing yourself or worse...leading you to believe things that simply aren't true.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ OK Jack, thanks for that. I will have a look on the offiical site and find that thread. With the volume of information there is to try and take in, I certainly don't want to be sold a pony!

[JackBauer24]

Here:

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=222689&tstart=0

That's the direct link to the VIP thread.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ :cheers: Jack.

[Sam Kenobi]

Obviously those websites can be edited by anybody, but they still provide good information. I mean, it's wise to be wary, and to double check, but I've experienced no problems with it.

Has anyone?

[Cydon]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:000/Bib_Fortuna_and_the_Rise_of_the_Dark_Falls

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ What is all that about? :scratchchin:

[Sam Kenobi]

He was showing me an example of false information on Wookiepedia.

Your point is conceded, but thats obviously false information. I'm talking about stuff that can actually fool people.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ So why has that been left on Wookiepedia? Someone should just remove it. Oh well. I will take care if I am using that as a source of information. :)

[JackBauer24]

He was showing me an example of false information on Wookiepedia.

Your point is conceded, but thats obviously false information. I'm talking about stuff that can actually fool people.

Just the fact that this is allowed to exist is the exact reason why you can't trust a wiki. If something like this is allowed to remain, what is being missed? There's no way to know how much is being avoided. I've noticed that everyone who defends wikis does so with an insane level of optimism. "Oh, well MOST of the people who use this do it honestly." Which means that some don't. If ANY of the information is suspect, then it can't be considered an encyclopedia, which is exactly what sites like Wookieepedia and Wikipedia claim to be. And the big danger isn't from people with malicious intent...it's from people with bad info. People who believe information and post it to the site without checking to find out if it's correct or not. Then it's treated like the freakin word of God by most of the ridiculously optimistic visitors to the site and the information is carried on, despite being incorrect. It's no longer a matter of information being verified and proven correct...it's a matter of information being called correct by popular opinion. "Hey, if Wikipedia says it's true, it MUST be true!" If history has anything to tell us, it's that popular opinion is patently stupid. Frankly, had wikis been around back hundreds of years ago, we'd still believe we live on a flat planet that the sun revolves around, because that's what popular opinion had and according to the logic created by these "encyclopedias" popular opinion HAS to be correct.

[thepepgal]

Just the fact that this is allowed to exist is the exact reason why you can't trust a wiki. If something like this is allowed to remain, what is being missed? There's no way to know how much is being avoided. I've noticed that everyone who defends wikis does so with an insane level of optimism. "Oh, well MOST of the people who use this do it honestly." Which means that some don't. If ANY of the information is suspect, then it can't be considered an encyclopedia, which is exactly what sites like Wookieepedia and Wikipedia claim to be. And the big danger isn't from people with malicious intent...it's from people with bad info. People who believe information and post it to the site without checking to find out if it's correct or not. Then it's treated like the freakin word of God by most of the ridiculously optimistic visitors to the site and the information is carried on, despite being incorrect. It's no longer a matter of information being verified and proven correct...it's a matter of information being called correct by popular opinion. "Hey, if Wikipedia says it's true, it MUST be true!" If history has anything to tell us, it's that popular opinion is patently stupid. Frankly, had wikis been around back hundreds of years ago, we'd still believe we live on a flat planet that the sun revolves around, because that's what popular opinion had and according to the logic created by these "encyclopedias" popular opinion HAS to be correct.

Very true. I always check the OS first prior to searching wiki. Wiki is like imdb they rely on people posting to know their information.

Interesting fact is that history is said to be written by the victors so it is even tainted by personal opinion. Just like what Obi Wan we all cling to certain points of view.

[Sam Kenobi]

But aren't there moderators or some equivalent who check this kind of stuff?

[JackBauer24]

Not really.

[Cydon]

There is, but there is NO WAY they can keep up with EVERYTHING. Not to mention that they may ALSO be people who post wrong info.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Attack of the Clones by R. A. Salvatore


The review that DC has been waiting for..............:wink:

As with The Phantom Menace, there is extra detail in the novel which I think would really have added to the film. The early scenes give us more information about the Lars family and how Shmi feels. The scenes with Padme and her family (both with and without Anakin) really give a much better insight into her character and her feelings.

In the film I did not understand why Padme loved Anakin, in the novel it is clearly explained how she feels and so is more believeable. You can read what I thought about their romance here: http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=15182&page=4. In short the romance in the movie was not great, but it is really well written in the novel.

To summarise, it is a well written book and there does not seem to be too much deviation from the film. I think for the extra details it gives, which added a lot to my understanding of events, I would probably rate this as 4.5 out of 5.

[Darill Cyllem]

Hooray! I'm so glad you read AOTC and enjoyed it. It's probably my favorite sw book, for exactly the reasons you described. I don't even like romance stories, and still thought the love story in AOTC was well done.

[Cydon]

Attack of the Clones by R. A. Salvatore


The review that DC has been waiting for..............:wink:

As with The Phantom Menace, there is extra detail in the novel which I think would really have added to the film. The early scenes give us more information about the Lars family and how Shmi feels. The scenes with Padme and her family (both with and without Anakin) really give a much better insight into her character and her feelings.

In the film I did not understand why Padme loved Anakin, in the novel it is clearly explained how she feels and so is more believeable. You can read what I thought about their romance here: http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=15182&page=4. In short the romance in the movie was not great, but it is really well written in the novel.

To summarise, it is a well written book and there does not seem to be too much deviation from the film. I think for the extra details it gives, which added a lot to my understanding of events, I would probably rate this as 4.5 out of 5.
So you liked it eh? Lucas should of have R.A. as one of his script writers. Or at least a "Creative Consultive."

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ Not a bad idea, the romance certainly would have come out better! :)

[JackBauer24]

I always thought Lucas should have used Kevin Smith as a dialogue consultant. I mean...the dialogue in the prequels was about as smooth and natural as Jabba the Hutt's skin.

[Fallen One]

I always thought Lucas should have used Kevin Smith as a dialogue consultant. I mean...the dialogue in the prequels was about as smooth and natural as Jabba the Hutt's skin. I agree nothing would be more entertaining than Anakin force choking padme on Mustafar and saying how many *%$# have you sucked:w00t:

[Cydon]

:blink:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Republic Commando: Hard Contact by Karen Traviss


I am not particularly one for details to do with war, it just doesn't hold much of an interest for me. But I tried to approach this book with an open mind - and I'm glad I did. The book is well written in the sense that, not having much experience of detailed war books, I think this is how a good war book would be written. Although it felt a bit slow to get into, once I had broken the back of it I did enjoy it.

It felt a bit strange to concentrating on troopers with far less emphasis on Jedi. But I think it worked. I think the trooper's characters were well captured and there was a lot more about them than I had found in the 2 Clone Wars animations, or we saw in the movies. I didn't necessarily agree wholeheartedly with the way their characters were developed, but that did not detract from them being well written.

If, like me, you are not someone who is particularly interested in the detail of war, I would still recommend on giving this book a chance. I'd be interested in hearing what others (especially those who get geeky about war detail! :nahnah: ) thought about this book. I'm in a generous mood, I'd probably give it 3.5 out of 5.

[Sam Kenobi]

I'd pretty much agree with your assesment; I had a hard time getting into the book, also. But, I think, once you read Triple Zero, you'll appreciate this book more. I did. :wink:

[empire21]

Reading through your thread JMH has gotten me in the mood for more SW novels, so I started reading the X-Wing series last night, something i've been meaning to do for many years. :)


So if my addiction to the EU starts again i'm placing all the blame on you. :wink:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Well, I'm glad to hear that! Makes a change from me getting people addicted to beer! :lol: Whether it be introducing new readers, like myself, into the EU, or making those who are already fans pick up the books again, if this thread inspires even just one or two people I will be happy. :)

The only downside is that with everything else I have going on, I can probably only read a novel once every 2 weeks. Some journeys are longer than others...........

[empire21]

Hopefully time won't be an issue for me this time, because I have a lot of catching up to do.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

LMAO! I'm on about novel 9 of about 100 or some ridiculous number! :w00t:

[empire21]

Lucky for me I only got about 20. :nahnah:

[JackBauer24]

LMAO! I'm on about novel 9 of about 100 or some ridiculous number! :w00t:

Erm...it's actually closer to 300.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Erm...it's actually closer to 300.

Please tell me that the 300 includes all the young adult novels................:scared:

[thepepgal]

Please tell me that the 300 includes all the young adult novels................:scared:

That and the graphic novels and the reference books.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

*Breathes a small sigh of relief*

[thepepgal]

*Breathes a small sigh of relief*

:rofl:

[JackBauer24]

That and the graphic novels and the reference books.

*Breathes a small sigh of relief*

Uh...I wasn't counting the GNs or Reference books...

[JackBauer24]

Okay, so I overestimated just a little. The total books, Adult and Juvenile, is 190. So it's a little less.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Well, once I have read the adult ones, perhaps I will read the juvenile ones later!

[JackBauer24]

That's understandable. That's how I did it, actually.

[empire21]

Honestly, are all those Juvenile novels by Jude Watson actually worth reading?

[JackBauer24]

Actually, yeah. They're pretty good. The first series, Jedi Apprentice, tells stories about Qui-Gon's time training Obi-Wan. Jedi Quest does the same with Obi-Wan and Anakin, and Last of the Jedi is about a Jedi during the Dark Times.

[empire21]

I like the way the Last of the Jedi novels sound, which I didn't even know about until I was browsing your timeline.

Unfortunately, I can't find those novels anywhere, I hit my local bookstore once a week and they only have the adult novels.

[JackBauer24]

Check in the Kid's section. In the serieses.

[empire21]

You know, I never thought of that! :scratchchin:

[JackBauer24]

That's where all the bookstores in my area shelve them. Easy to find, they're all together, etc.

[Sam Kenobi]

I've wanted to read the young adult ones for years. The problem is that they cost too much money for the time it takes me to read them. About a day. The Jedi Knight stories by KJA are alright. I've read two onimbi (obimbuses) of them. It's impossible to find the singles now, though. And after reading the NJO, I feel like I've missed out.

Has anyone even been able to find the other Jedi Knight series?

[JackBauer24]

^ Used book stores are usually best for the YJK and JJK series. I found most of mine in one trip to a shop nearby.

[Sam Kenobi]

How much did it cost you?

[empire21]

^ Used book stores are usually best for the YJK and JJK series.

That's where i'm heading tomorrow. :wink:

How much did it cost you?

Whenever i've seen them at used bookstores they would always asked for half the retail price, don't know if it's the same way in the US, but I would imagine it would be.

[Sam Kenobi]

I will investigate.

Del Rey, a few years ago, started putting the Young Jedi Knights into Onimbus versions. They did two onimbi, with three books in each of them. I don't know why they stopped.

[Darill Cyllem]

I, personally, didn't like the YKJ books, but i don't like anything Anderson has written. That made me unwilling to try to other young adult novels, but maybe i'll give the ones about Obi-Wan a whirl after seeing them reccommended.

[empire21]

I didn't have any luck at all today looking for the JJK or the others, I even ended up asking for help at my local book shop, and the moron who helped me took me to the SW section and I told him I already looked here and that they were for kids, to which he then said "maybe they are in the kids section" to which I replied "Thats where I was looking when I asked you for help remember" :giveup:

Doesn't seem like it's meant to be.

[JackBauer24]

How much did it cost you?

About 2 bucks apiece, if I remember correctly. But I sold a few books there that day, so I really didn't pay that.

[Sam Kenobi]

I will investingate. Thanks for the info.

[Darill Cyllem]

Thought some folks here might be interested in the novel collecting thread:

http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14514

[Sam Kenobi]

Well, I'm not a huge fan of KJA books, but you have to admit, the stuff that he's written is very important to the Star Wars universe. All the characters that he created are now major players in the current EU. His plot points are always capitalized on.

[RollaFett]

What about comic books? I know that the old Marvel series went about 107 issues.

[Sam Kenobi]

What about them?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I think Rolla is just trying to inform me that I will be reading SW stuff for the next 10 years if I want to know everything!

[Sam Kenobi]

I'm goin' on 8 years, and I've got a long way to go. Haha.

[JackBauer24]

I think Rolla is just trying to inform me that I will be reading SW stuff for the next 10 years if I want to know everything!

I've been doing this for the last 7 and it's not as unpleasant as it sounds.

[Darill Cyllem]

Yes, i've been reading sw novels for as long as they've been making them, and really, it's not at all unpleasant.

Except for Jedi Trial. That was a stink bomb.

[RollaFett]

I think Rolla is just trying to inform me that I will be reading SW stuff for the next 10 years if I want to know everything!

Yup. Although, I really enjoyed the Marvel series back in the day. Hell, there was nothing new with Star Wars at the time, so that was it. I'm pretty sure that none of it is considered canon at this point, but I remember liking it. Plus, they had a really slick penciller named Cynthia Martin who did a lot of the later issues. I liked that artwork.

[empire21]

Except for Jedi Trial. That was a stink bomb.


I think that's putting it mildly. :P

[Darill Cyllem]

Oh, and the "Dark Fleet Crisis."
I blocked that one out of my memory.

[Sam Kenobi]

That's one of the only series that I haven't read yet. And it looks intriguing. But I've heard that from many people.

[thepepgal]

Oh, and the "Dark Fleet Crisis."
I blocked that one out of my memory.

I thought the "Dark Fleet Crisis" was ok. It was nice to see something outside the norm for SW.

I've been reading SW since the first novel in 1977. I'm not addicted, honest. I can give up anytime I like.... right after I read Exile then Sacfrice, etc .... :wink:

[JackBauer24]

I can think of a few less than enjoyable reading experiences. Lessee...the Hambly books...the Crystal Star...Jedi Trial...Cestus Deception...

[Darill Cyllem]

Well, i like both Hambly and the Cestus Deception, but agree on Crystal Star and Jedi Trial (obviously). Anderson was never a favorite. His dialogue makes me roll my eyes every other paragraph.
But let's not scare JMH off the EU, now... :D

[empire21]

I can think of a few less than enjoyable reading experiences. Lessee...the Hambly books...the Crystal Star...Jedi Trial...Cestus Deception...

I've actually erased the memory of the Crystal Star from my mind, until your post that is.


As for Cestus Deception, that was one of my favorite CW novels.

[Sam Kenobi]

Agreed. I liked Cestus.

[JackBauer24]

So, JMH, what book are you on now?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover

Mace Windu was one of my favourite characters in the PT and regardless of speculation, I always like to think that he had the upperhand in the fight against Sidious, so I was looking forward to seeing what adventures he got up to in Shatterpoint.

It was interesting to learn about his unusual power, that is, finding the 'shatterpoint' of someone. It was great to read about Mace's thoughts on Geonosis and I thought that the tool of using a journal to assist the readers' understanding of events and add to Mace's character was excellent.

I actually found that I didn't like Mace's character as much as I previously did, but I suppose that given the situation on the planet, Haruun Kal, that much of his bad nature was bound to come out. It frustrates me a bit that in the PT novels they seem to concentrate on Jedi's shortcomings and also the amount that were turning away from being Jedi. However it does show the strength of Mace's character to get through the trials put in front of him.

There was some good humour in Shatterpoint and as usual with the PT novels so far there were some interesting characters along the way. The book was well written and certainly one where I couldn't wait for the next chapter. I really enjoyed the ending of the book and I was left wondering that if Kar Vastor and Depa Billaba were held captive in the Jedi Temple - were they there during the purge of the Jedi, and if so, what happened to them?

All in all, a good read and I'd rate it as 4 out of 5.

[Darill Cyllem]

Some interesting observations on the nature of the Jedi, JMH - i hadn't really thought of it that way, i guess. All the stuff about the Jedi and the Force is probably my favorite part of the EU. Some books are better at that than others, of course.
I really liked seeing Windu's inner monologue in this book and i like seeing the "flaws" of the Jedi as it shows we all always have room to grow. :yoda:

i think we can probably assume that Vader was quite thorough in his work at the Jedi Temple and can scratch Vastor and Billaba.

[sharyntyre]

JMH I finally found the time to catch up on this thread, and as a huge EU fan I must confess I've not read any of them except OUTBOUND FLIGHT which I loved. Of course who doesn't love Zhann's SW?

I just revisited NJO, the first three so far. NO "more" spoilers, but after getting over the Chewie thing and giving them a second try I am looking forward to the next couple of books.

I look at the long list of EU to read as a labor of love, hardly a burden.

One Question for the "Experts"

should I back burner the NJO and go read all the back ground and gap fillers first? I believe I've got everything from New Hope to NJO under my belt.



Enjoy the journey friend, I'll keep an eye on your reviews.

[JackBauer24]

The only "gap filler" you really need to worry about is Rogue Planet. That's the only novel that is outside of the ANH-NJO section that ties into NJO.

[Darill Cyllem]

That's good advice from Jack, though i found the Clone Wars novels to be enjoyable overall.
Also, not sure if you are into "young adult" fiction, and i'm not recommending them or anything as i thought they were a bit crappy, but the Anderson and Moesta Young Jedi Knights series is our first intro to several characters that crop up in the NJO. I'm not sure you need to read them, though. And i've told you what i think of them, so if you haven't read them and decide to read them and also find them to be a bit crappy, please try not to be mad at me for mentioning them...
:nahnah:

[sharyntyre]

thanks for your advice guys! I plan to crawl through a few used book stores with a list in hand this weekend. Of course I'll likely have to pay full price for the latest releases, but I usually have a few extra dollars, a few. Oh well, I can only read one story at a time anyway, right?

I believe I am leaning towards going back to the begining, as JMH has done instead of going forward with NJO. It will still be there when I get done with the pre and clone war stuff. I did not actually read the others in order the first time, I bought them as I found them...

Appologies for hijacking the thread, we now return you to your regularly schedualed book reviews.

:wink:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Yes, I must be due to review The Cestus Deception, although that may have to wait until the weekend. I'm very :sleeping:. I have to say that I have really enjoyed the PT novels, so far, with the exception of Rogue Planet (which is quite amusing as that is the one Jack mentioned as a tie in to later novels!)

I think you will probably enjoy them more if you read them in order, although the one major thing that is lacking for me is watching Anakin really develop. It seems to be something that the authors have perhaps been told to be sketchy about. :scratchchin: Not sure why as the films are all done now!

I actually have some NJO books, but I am resisting the temptation to read them until I get to that period!

[JackBauer24]

Not sure why as the films are all done now!

Yeah, but they weren't when the books were written. The only two books from the prequel era to come out AFTER ROTS were Outbound Flight and Dark Lord.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ Of course, sorry, I am half asleep tonight. That being the case, do you think it is likely that more PT novels will be released, or do you think that will be it?

[JackBauer24]

Not in the next couple of years...the areas being concentrated on are the Pre-Prequel era, the inbetween series era and the post-NJO era (with a departure for the early new republic era)

[Sam Kenobi]

I would definately wait befre reading those books. Definately

[thepepgal]

Yes, I must be due to review The Cestus Deception, although that may have to wait until the weekend. I'm very :sleeping:. I have to say that I have really enjoyed the PT novels, so far, with the exception of Rogue Planet (which is quite amusing as that is the one Jack mentioned as a tie in to later novels!)

I think you will probably enjoy them more if you read them in order, although the one major thing that is lacking for me is watching Anakin really develop. It seems to be something that the authors have perhaps been told to be sketchy about. :scratchchin: Not sure why as the films are all done now!

I actually have some NJO books, but I am resisting the temptation to read them until I get to that period!

Yeah, but they weren't when the books were written. The only two books from the prequel era to come out AFTER ROTS were Outbound Flight and Dark Lord.


That is the reason they (PT books) are so hit and miss with information. They have often tied into a NJO era book to explain something raised in that book. Or they tried to cover the time of the wars and Anakin's training without a clear idea on how he will be protrayed prior to becoming Vader. The NJO have had the chance to develop the movie characters from seeing them over 3 films.

[JackBauer24]

My big problem with Anakin's characterization in the Prequel books, which I think I've stated before in this thread but I'm too damn lazy to go look, is that each author wrote it as if everyone should have seen him turning dark from miles away. It diminishes the role of the Jedi...makes them look stupid for not having seen each sign that he was turning bad. We never really get a book where Anakin is just a normal Jedi Padawan. It's always Anakin struggling with the dark side. After a while, I got sick of it.

[JackBauer24]

I'm reading the Boba Fett kids novels right now. Terrible. I'll try and sum them up so that you don't have to read them.

Boba Fett #1- The first half of the book is a retelling of AOTC from Boba's POV. Nothing big there. After Jango's death, he buries Jango on Geonosis, then takes Slave 1 off planet. A book Jango gave him full of plattitudes suggests tracking down Count Dooku, so Boba starts off on the moons of Bogden. After some minor learning experiences, he gets the name of a bar on Coruscant, so he hops over there. Once there, he gets captured by Aurra Sing, who steals Slave I, but not before taking him straight to Count Dooku, who had sent her to bring him back, in a show of kindness that is completely out of character. On Raxis Prime (presumably right before the events of the Clone Wars video game), Boba meets the Count, who takes him in. End novel 1.

[Darill Cyllem]

I'm reading the Boba Fett kids novels right now. Terrible. I'll try and sum them up so that you don't have to read them.

Boba Fett #1- The first half of the book is a retelling of AOTC from Boba's POV. Nothing big there. After Jango's death, he buries Jango on Geonosis, then takes Slave 1 off planet. A book Jango gave him full of plattitudes suggests tracking down Count Dooku, so Boba starts off on the moons of Bogden. After some minor learning experiences, he gets the name of a bar on Coruscant, so he hops over there. Once there, he gets captured by Aurra Sing, who steals Slave I, but not before taking him straight to Count Dooku, who had sent her to bring him back, in a show of kindness that is completely out of character. On Raxis Prime (presumably right before the events of the Clone Wars video game), Boba meets the Count, who takes him in. End novel 1.

Jack, thank you for "taking one for the team" as it were! I am so very wary of all the "young adult" books ever since the Young Jedi Knights series. I'd love to get your synopses of all the Boba Fett books you can force yourself to slog through. Maybe you could start a thread? :yes:

[JackBauer24]

Nah, I don't wanna waste the thread space on these books. I'll just post 'em quick here as I finish them. 1 down, 5 to go.

[Darill Cyllem]

1 down, 5 to go.
You're a brave man!

[Jedi Master Harrison]

That's cool Jack, if I do decide to read all the young adult books, then it will be many moons away!

Thanks to all for their contributions in here. :)

[Sam Kenobi]

That's why I hate the young adult books. They're usually pretty bad (du'h; they're for young adults) but a lot of the time they provide essential background story and characterization.

[Darill Cyllem]

That's why I hate the young adult books. They're usually pretty bad (du'h; they're for young adults) but a lot of the time they provide essential background story and characterization.
What irks me is that young adult books don't have to be bad! Some are quite good. Just not the star wars ones, apparently.
:giveup:

[sharyntyre]

I must thank you all for the warning about the young adult books, I've been tempted a few times....

[Darill Cyllem]

I must thank you all for the warning about the young adult books, I've been tempted a few times....
Don't do it! Turn from the Dark Side!
:vader:

[JackBauer24]

I'll tell you what. I've read some of each of the major kid's series. Here's what I thought, if anyone's interested in picking them up.

Jedi Apprentice- I actually really enjoyed this series. It's well written and fun, and it really gives a great look into Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's relationship. My only real problem is that it's very insular. It doesn't discuss anything that's going on in the galaxy outside of their own little world. Still, a fun series.

Jedi Quest- Not as good as Jedi Apprentice. Watson spends a lot of time concentrating on Anakin's flaws, which really gets annoying by the middle of the series. Still, better than some adult books, which is good.

Last of the Jedi- I've only read the first two books of this series, but I really enjoyed them. This is a great way to get into an era that hasn't really been explored with characters other than our typical heroes. Looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

Boba Fett- Reading it now, but this series commits the cardinal sin of kid's books...it treats the readers like they're idiots. Kids are smart. They don't need to be explained every little thing. And doing so makes it painful for both kids and adults to read.

Junior Jedi Knights- This series commits the same felonies as Boba Fett, but with one new one...they keep calling Anakin Solo Anakin Skywalker. Whoops.

Young Jedi Knights- Actually, a pretty fun series. It's a good look into the early lives of Jacen, Jaina, Tenel Ka, Zekk, etc, especially before the Yuuzhan Vong invasion and the Dark Nest and the Second Corellian Insurrection. Pretty fun.

[thepepgal]

I'll tell you what. I've read some of each of the major kid's series. Here's what I thought, if anyone's interested in picking them up.

Jedi Apprentice- I actually really enjoyed this series. It's well written and fun, and it really gives a great look into Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's relationship. My only real problem is that it's very insular. It doesn't discuss anything that's going on in the galaxy outside of their own little world. Still, a fun series.

Jedi Quest- Not as good as Jedi Apprentice. Watson spends a lot of time concentrating on Anakin's flaws, which really gets annoying by the middle of the series. Still, better than some adult books, which is good.

Last of the Jedi- I've only read the first two books of this series, but I really enjoyed them. This is a great way to get into an era that hasn't really been explored with characters other than our typical heroes. Looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

Boba Fett- Reading it now, but this series commits the cardinal sin of kid's books...it treats the readers like they're idiots. Kids are smart. They don't need to be explained every little thing. And doing so makes it painful for both kids and adults to read.

Junior Jedi Knights- This series commits the same felonies as Boba Fett, but with one new one...they keep calling Anakin Solo Anakin Skywalker. Whoops.

Young Jedi Knights- Actually, a pretty fun series. It's a good look into the early lives of Jacen, Jaina, Tenel Ka, Zekk, etc, especially before the Yuuzhan Vong invasion and the Dark Nest and the Second Corellian Insurrection. Pretty fun.

I've read them most of and still plan to read the rest. I accept they are written for kids (either 6-9 or teens) and don't expect great plot points or fancy writing and know every book after the first in a series will use the first chapter to recap the last book. The reason I still want to read them is they actually introduced characters like Tenel Ka, Zekk and Lowie. They expand the characters like the solo kids.

If you can accept this then they are a reasonable read.

Jack I notice you didn't cover the Galaxy of Fear series have you read them?

[JackBauer24]

I never read the Galaxy of Fear series, and since they're usually not included in continuity references, I don't bother with them. The only other kid's series I can think of was the Glove of Darth Vader series, but that is a series so horrible that reading them to prisoners of war is considered a war crime worse than dropping a nuclear bomb on a school filled with children. And kittens.

[Darill Cyllem]

I never read the Galaxy of Fear series, and since they're usually not included in continuity references, I don't bother with them. The only other kid's series I can think of was the Glove of Darth Vader series, but that is a series so horrible that reading them to prisoners of war is considered a war crime worse than dropping a nuclear bomb on a school filled with children. And kittens.
:rofl:
oh, golly! i almost choked on my yogurt!
:chortle:

[empire21]

I never read the Galaxy of Fear series, and since they're usually not included in continuity references, I don't bother with them. The only other kid's series I can think of was the Glove of Darth Vader series, but that is a series so horrible that reading them to prisoners of war is considered a war crime worse than dropping a nuclear bomb on a school filled with children. And kittens.

That good, huh! :lol:

[JackBauer24]

Lemme put it this way...one of the books involved Han putting on a dinner party in his floating apartment above Cloud City. *shudder*

[empire21]

Well that sounds interesting. :um:

[sharyntyre]

...So other than DC's revulsion I am getting the sense that they aren't horrid, not as bad as Anderson's feeble efforts, yet a far cry from Zhann or Stakepole (SP? its early, on my first cup)

If I treat them like any of the Conan stories, pure escapism reading, I may not be totally offended.

They will most likely end up in my collection at some point, I mean I did keep my copies of Splinter of the Minds Eye, Courtship of Princess Liea, Darksaber,etc.

I remember seeing the Glove of Vader, I thought the idea had possibilities... Well I'll be picking up a few books today, I'll let ya guys know what I got.

[thepepgal]

I never read the Galaxy of Fear series, and since they're usually not included in continuity references, I don't bother with them. The only other kid's series I can think of was the Glove of Darth Vader series, but that is a series so horrible that reading them to prisoners of war is considered a war crime worse than dropping a nuclear bomb on a school filled with children. And kittens.

Galaxy of Fear series is SW horror stories for kids (ie monsters). It is ok as a series but doesn't relate to any other of the stories including itself.

I've read Glove of Vader series and survive unscathed (I think:wink: )

[empire21]

I've read Glove of Vader series and survive unscathed (I think:wink: )

LOL!

[Jedi Master Harrison]

The Cestus Deception by Steven Barnes

I suppose by now everyone is expecing my criticism of the lack of the development of major characters, but we discussed that above, so I won't dwell on that, it was just a shame that we didn't learn much more about Kit Fisto.

The fact that Obi-Wan never really seems to question the whole deception idea still irks me. He was an intelligent compassionate man and should have learnt from Qui-Gon that you should not always obey orders without question. I didn't like the fact that Jedi would so openly use deceipt. Of course the deception goes wrong and almost costs the Jedi the mission and their lives, but they recover well. The ending to me was absolutely fantastic, about the statue, somehow I kind of knew that was what it would be, but nonetheless, I felt really content. Almost as good as the feeling after coming out from watching ROTS for the first time!

As with most books so far, the supporting characters have been quite well written and you do find yourself empathising with them. The adventures are virtually always good fun and entertaining. It is just a shame that I am not more imaginative - I am not usually able to visualise creatures that well, so I always end up trying to find out what they look like online!

Anyway, yet another enjoyable read and another 4 out of 5 I think. :)

[empire21]

What CW novels do you have left to read, JMH?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

The Medstar Duology, the Republic Commando novels (other than Hard Contact), Jedi Trial, Yoda: Dark Rendezvous and Labyrinth of Evil!

[empire21]

The Medstar Duology and Yoda: Dark Rendezvous are a lot of fun, you'll enjoy those ones, as well as Labyrinth of Evil but you might have a problem getting through Jedi Trial. :P

Can't wait till you start the NJO.

[Darill Cyllem]

Yes, i'd recommend tackling Jedi Trial with several drinks at hand. Maybe then it would be entertaining? If you really want my advice, skip it and re-watch season two of the Clone Wars cartoons. But if you feel obligated, as i do, to read all (adult) star wars novels once, then i guess you're stuck....

Dark Rendezvous is a favorite. NJO will be great, but is far down the line. I'm looking forward to when you get to the meat of the Zahn stuff and start in on Heir to the Empire!

[empire21]

I'm looking forward to when you get to the meat of the Zahn stuff and start in on Heir to the Empire!

Yep, Heir to the Empire were my first and are still my favorites, then after that you got the Hand of Thrawn duology. :yes:

[sharyntyre]

Zhann sets a standard few, if any, of the others can match. Did not make the bookstores yesturday, shall aim for them today, I need a new story to read.

[thepepgal]

Zhann sets a standard few, if any, of the others can match. Did not make the bookstores yesturday, shall aim for them today, I need a new story to read.

Yes Zahn does reach most SW fans and I do enjoy his books.

[Sam Kenobi]

If George Lucas is the Father of Star Wars, Tim Zahn is certainly his first son.

[empire21]

:lol:

I like that!

[Sam Kenobi]

:D

Do you? I've actually been working on that analogy in my head for a while, trying to complete the whole analogy.

Anderson is the next oldest, but forgotton son. Stackpole and Allston are twins. Stover, I think, is the next son . . . It definately needs some work, lol! :rofl:

[empire21]

:P

Anderson doesn't get enough attention, he's written some good stuff.

[thepepgal]

:D

Do you? I've actually been working on that analogy in my head for a while, trying to complete the whole analogy.

Anderson is the next oldest, but forgotton son. Stackpole and Allston are twins. Stover, I think, is the next son . . . It definately needs some work, lol! :rofl:

I agree with all except Stover. Anderson needs to write more SW novels as he has been away too long. Anderson has been too busy with the Dune series.

Foster is the uncle (for writing the first few novels).

Traviss has to be the daughter being one of the few females to write so many adult SW novels. I enjoy her style even if others don't.

[JackBauer24]

Barbara Hambly, David Sherman and Dan Cragg are the retarded siblings that no one likes to talk about, but they're still in the back of everyone's mind, like a wart that just won't go away.

[Darill Cyllem]

My 2 cents, which i've chipped in before, are that I also enjoy Traviss - she's great, imo. I do not enjoy the dialog Anderson writes. It's tripe (again, imo). And, contrary to Jack, i do like Hambly.

The real losers are: Michael P. Kube-McDowell for that POS that is the Black Fleet Crisis, and Vonda J. MacIntyre, for that thing we all expunged from our memories: The Crystal Star.
And of course Sherman and Cragg. Can we just pretend Jedi Trial doesn't exist and watch the Clone Wars cartoons instead?

[Sam Kenobi]

Unfortunately, whoever decided that the Clone Wars novels weren't important enough to incorporate both the novels and the cartoons ruined it for me. When it comes to continuity, I go with the books.

[Darill Cyllem]

Unfortunately, whoever decided that the Clone Wars novels weren't important enough to incorporate both the novels and the cartoons ruined it for me. When it comes to continuity, I go with the books.
In general, i totally agree. On the other hand, i'm very willing to make an exception for Jedi Trial.

[Sam Kenobi]

:P

Ok, maybe. Nothing really important happened there, anyways, right? Despite the . . . introduction of Neeja Halycon.

JHM, did you watch TCWAS?

[thepepgal]

:P

Ok, maybe. Nothing really important happened there, anyways, right? Despite the . . . introduction of Neeja Halycon.

JHM, did you watch TCWAS?

Yes the discussion about Neeja hiding his son from the jedi was interesting, especially since his grandson is Corran Horn. It also makes it amazing that Hal Horn was never found given that Anakin knew about him. I know the story of the hiding but I'm amazed that the Empire gave up.

[Darill Cyllem]

Let's try not to reveal future plot stuff for JMH. :)

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Republic Commando: Triple Zero by Karen Traviss


The 2nd of what I believe is to be 4 books by Karen Traviss which deal with Republic Commandos. I found Triple Zero a lot easier to get into than Hard Contact, I suppose it helped that a lot of the characters from the first novel are in this one and so it makes it easier to identify with the old characters and there are not as many new characters to learn about. One Sargeant, Skirata, is IMO a particularly interesting character and there is a lot about him, incorporating interesting back story into the development of the clones.

We learn more about the clones, including about a batch that were considered 'faulty' and were to be destroyed by the Kaminoans, but weren't. There is more interaction between the clones and citizens and an interesting idea (though I'm not convinced I necessarily like it) with a relationship between a clone and a Jedi. Mandalorian language is more fully introduced and although that could be considered a bit geeky, I actually don't mind a bit of it. As long as the other novels are not to be written too much in it then it will be interesting to see how it develops, but I don't want to be looking up words every 5 minutes when reading a book.

I think both the background plot and the main action scenes are well written. So, yeah, a good book, I enjoyed it. I'd give it 4 out of 5 and, quite frankly, if you don't like it, you are a di'kut. :wink:

[Darill Cyllem]

Ah, yes! The Null RCs!
:like:

I did enjoy the increased complexities of the interpersonal relationships in this book. And Skirata, of course. Am looking forward to more from Traviss.
And i love all the Mando stuff - because I really am that geeky!

[Sam Kenobi]

Agreed. I'm really excited and curious to see how the relationship between the Jedi, the clone, and Skirata (I can't recall their names at the moment) is played out. Especially since I'm sure it will tie into the LotF series.

What's next, JHM?

[JackBauer24]

Just a heads-up, guys. If you're using my timeline, you'd better save a copy, because as of tomorrow night, it will no longer be available.

[empire21]

Why?!?

I got links to it a various places I travel on the interweb.

[JackBauer24]

I've just decided to stop making it. I just can't do it anymore. I closed my blog and I'm giving it one more day before I pull down the timeline.

[empire21]

Understood.

It was a good timeline, though. :howdy:

[JackBauer24]

I know, and I liked it while it lasted. But it's time to move on.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

That's a shame Jack, that was good work. *Runs off to save a copy*

The Medstar novels are up next Sam, I am only about half way through the first one, I found it hard to get into at first, but it's improving. It hasn't helped that I've been so busy with other things and so have had very little time to concentrate on my reading. Hopefully August will be less manic!

[JackBauer24]

The Medstar ones are easier to read if you're a fan of MASH.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I never really watched that show mate. To be fair, I don't watch much tv at all!

[empire21]

The Medstar books were a lot of fun, I flew right through them.

[Sam Kenobi]

/\ Agreed. It's a very different view of the war.

[sharyntyre]

meh I keep letting this slide past me. I've gotten a handful of the PT era books now and read a few. I told you guys I'd let you know what I got, i'll skip reviews since this is JMH's show.

So far I've digested The Approaching Storm, Shatterpoint, the Cestus Deception and Rogue Planet. halfway through Hard Contact now. I enjoy the peek into clone minds, fun fun. I have triple Zero, Dark Rendezvous, Jedi Trials on the shelf waiting too.

JMH is :like: with EU now, or at least bit more generous than I in his reviews.

is there anything important in the medstar books, cuz while I watched MASH, I do not fancy reading it. Medical drama is not my thing.

JMH. Man I am glad you are enjoying your travels and I have to say again I envy that it is all new and fresh to you.

[Sam Kenobi]

Even though the MedStar books are about the medical bays of the Republic, that's really just the setting for the book. There's not a huge impact on the EU, really. Kind of like Shatterpoint is really just a story about Mace Windu, MedStar is about Barriss Offee.

I enjoyed them.

[thepepgal]

Even though the MedStar books are about the medical bays of the Republic, that's really just the setting for the book. There's not a huge impact on the EU, really. Kind of like Shatterpoint is really just a story about Mace Windu, MedStar is about Barriss Offee.

I enjoyed them.

I also enjoyed them but there less action in these books.

Sharyntyre, it does cover the lives of a medical centre but is not funny like MASH. It is a very character developed story line and especially concentrates on Barriss.

[Darill Cyllem]

There's a few funny bits in the MedStar books. Enjoyable reads all around, i'd say - quite character driven as has been noted, but there's action as well.

I'd warn you away from Jedi Trial, Shar.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

meh I keep letting this slide past me. I've gotten a handful of the PT era books now and read a few. I told you guys I'd let you know what I got, i'll skip reviews since this is JMH's show.

So far I've digested The Approaching Storm, Shatterpoint, the Cestus Deception and Rogue Planet. halfway through Hard Contact now. I enjoy the peek into clone minds, fun fun. I have triple Zero, Dark Rendezvous, Jedi Trials on the shelf waiting too.

JMH is :like: with EU now, or at least bit more generous than I in his reviews.

is there anything important in the medstar books, cuz while I watched MASH, I do not fancy reading it. Medical drama is not my thing.

JMH. Man I am glad you are enjoying your travels and I have to say again I envy that it is all new and fresh to you.

Thanks Shar, I have to say for the most part I am really enjoying it. Of course it helps that it is Star Wars, but perhaps part of it is also that I haven't made enough time for reading over the past few years. I always used to enjoy reading, so it is good to get back into it. Most of the EU books have been enjoyable, I think I am still at the stage where I cannot get enough SW information!

If you feel like writing some short reviews, to compare to mine, that's cool. With me only reading a book every couple of weeks it might keep the discussion going in the thread. I'd just ask you not to write about any books that I have not yet read.

I should be able to review Medstar I in the next couple of days...........

There's a few funny bits in the MedStar books. Enjoyable reads all around, i'd say - quite character driven as has been noted, but there's action as well.

I'd warn you away from Jedi Trial, Shar.

LOL, I am about to buy that book as the next in the timeline after Medstar II. Well, we'll see............

[Darill Cyllem]

Noooo!! Don't do it! Oh, not Jedi Trial! *weeps* I'm so very, very sorry you are thinking of reading it. :(

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Well, you can comfort me afterwards if it's that bad! :wink: You never know, I might really enjoy it, I'm not sure it can be worse than Rogue Planet! :lol: I'm planning to read all the (adult at least) novels, so at least I will be able to comment on them all. :)

[Master_Kinnon]

I'd warn you away from Jedi Trial, Shar.

I totally agree. It took me weeks to get through it 'cause it was so bad. In the end it was only because I was determined I was going to finish it.

The Medstar dualogy I've only just recently gotten my hands on, so I'll read that soon, I'm currently reading Darksaber. I've read a lot of them out of order, or not at all, so I'm trying to correct that now.

[Darill Cyllem]

Well, you can comfort me afterwards if it's that bad! :wink: You never know, I might really enjoy it, I'm not sure it can be worse than Rogue Planet! :lol: I'm planning to read all the (adult at least) novels, so at least I will be able to comment on them all. :)

It's so unspeakably worse that Rogue Planet!!
Though i do understand your desire to personally read all the books.

Pre-emptive hugs of comfort: :hug:

[JackBauer24]

Here's the best way to put it, JMH: Jedi Trial makes Rogue Planet look like the Lord of the Rings.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

You're not gonna put me off, but I am not looking forward to it now! :nahnah:

[JackBauer24]

Good. You have been warned.

[empire21]

I'll give you credit, JMH, if you still read it and get through it despite all the warnings.

[thepepgal]

You're not gonna put me off, but I am not looking forward to it now! :nahnah:

I didn't think it is that bad. True it is not the highlight of the clone wars series. There are other EU books worst but they are post ESB.

[sharyntyre]

LOL, Jedi Trial must be worse than Crystal Star...I'll attempt it out of interest in Neja Halcyon, and Anakin/Vader, my fav character.

I thank you for your generous offer to post reviews here. I'll take you up on it, keeping the 'spoiler' limitation in mind. I would like to discuss some of the characters and such of the ones we've both finished.

As DC mentioned I can't wait for you to get to the meat of the Zhan stuff. Those five are my fave EU, well hell let's thrown in Outbound Flight and call Zhan's work my favorite six servings of EU . :)

I kinda liked Rogue Planet, not much action and I usually do not like stories featuring kids, but again, it's Anakin... the NJO tie-in was obvious instantly, and pretty cool. I liked the way civilization and the ship building process. I'll use a 1-10 scale and say it was 3-4 for Starwars, lack of action being my main problem with the book. Or rather not enough other stuff to make up for the lack of action...

I'll grab the medstar books I like Berris in Approaching Storm, review on that in later post.

MK, I found Darksaber amusing, but less than satisfying, not the worst EU but not something I'd recomend to folks.

[Darill Cyllem]

Jedi Trial is definitely worse than Crystal Star, imo :barf:
Darksaber was not the best, either... in fact - as may be well known already, i'm not favorably inclined towards anything written by Kevin J. Anderson (star wars stuff, anyway, can't speak for other things he might've done) with the exception of the "Tales" edited volumes (which are, of course, not entirely written by him).

[Master_Kinnon]

Kevin J. Anderson is quickly becoming one of my favourite SW authors. I've just finished Darksaber and quite liked it, easy to read, good plot and good characterisation IMO. Kinda gutted by the death of Crix Madine, but hey, that's how it goes sometimes!

I'm kinda going on my own journey through the EU at the moment 'cause I've started buying up a lot of the books that I didn't read previously. I've missed a lot, lol.

[Darill Cyllem]

Careful with plot spoilers!
:(

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Yeah, I don't want to have to beat you with my negative rep stick! :lol::tease:

[thepepgal]

Yeah, I don't want to have to beat you with my negative rep stick! :lol::tease:

Ok we won't tell you what happens in the movie novelisations then. You won't believe what happens near the end of ESB. :nahnah:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Medstar I: Battle Surgeons by Michael Reav