Upcoming Moooooovies

[Jors_Dedon]

I know there is already an X2 thread, but this is for all upcoming movies in general. I just saw a preview for "The Core". I'm not going to say anything (I'm too busy laughing.) But does anyone have any other thoughts? What about any other movies?

[Lord Rocha]

I think The Core is another pathetic display of the poor imagination of Hollywood's writers ... miserable poor movie....

Are there any new movies apart of X2 ?? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Darth Vegas]

*Agent Bond checks*

Uh yeah, DUH!!!

T3
The Return of the King
The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions
and many many more.....

[Lord Rocha]

I mean GOOD ONES !!

[Darth Drew]

<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Spider-Man 2</span></span>

[xagete]

Return of the King

[RollaFett]

The Spider-Man sequel isn't due out until 2004, so calm down.

"The Core" does, indeed, look quite laughable.

As for other movies, well, there is "The Hulk".

[Darth Drew]

<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Dang, I thought it was coming out this year. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif</span></span>

[Lord Rocha]

I can wait for Spiderman 2 all my life....i will dont see it !

[RollaFett]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> I can wait for Spiderman 2 all my life....i will dont see it ! [/b][/quote]

Uhmmm....please translate.

[Lord Rocha]

I mean that i can wait all my life for Spider-man 2 just because i dont care.

If years pass and i dont see it, i dont care !

So all my life can pass and i wont see it !

I can wait all my life, i am not excited to see it !

[Darth Drew]

<span style="font-family:Courier"><span style="color:red">Ah, that makes sense.</span></span>

[RollaFett]

Ahhhhh......I see. I suppose that the 'i will don't see it' portion of your post confused me a tad.

[Lord Rocha]

Oh, sorry. I am not used to write in English and sometimes i can be confusing.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Senator Pter Thanas@Mar 15 2003, 07:43 PM
I mean GOOD ONES !!
Those are good ones. VERY good ones. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Lord Rocha]

Well, well....

Those are 'GOOD MOVIES' but not the ones i want to know about.

[RollaFett]

Thanas, no problem. Sorry if it sounded like I was making fun of you. I mean, I was, but I apologize, nonetheless. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Lord Rocha]

Originally posted by GollaFett@Mar 15 2003, 08:43 PM
Thanas, no problem. Sorry if it sounded like I was making fun of you. I mean, I was, but I apologize, nonetheless. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
I accept your apologize. LOL style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[bodhisattva yoda]

the cowboy bebop movie is due soon. i'm sort of looking forward to the matrix sequels, and sort of looking forward to X2..and there are movies that i'm sure i'll see like terminator 3 and the hulk, though i won't expect much. apart from the return of the king, cowboy bebop is the only movie i'm truly looking forward to.

[Das_Funked]

I can't wait untill 'Ned Kelly' comes out in Australia.

[bodhisattva yoda]

do dvds count? if so, i can't wait for punch-drunk love and spirited away to be released. i'm also looking forward to jump-tomorrow being released on dvd because i didn't get to see it in theatres and, by the looks of the trailer, it must be an excellent film.

[Mann]

Can't wait for "Kill Bill" Quentin Tarantino's fourth film!

[bodhisattva yoda]

oh. finally. i thought he was going to pull a 'george lucas' and wait twenty years before directing another film.

[Mann]

well, his last movie was in 1997, so i guess it's been a while. But he's also tried to act...which is a bad idea for him cause he's no actor.

oh, Natalie Portman movie called Cold Mountain coming up? Any people wanna see?

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 16 2003, 11:59 AM
well, his last movie was in 1997, so i guess it's been a while. But he's also tried to act...which is a bad idea for him cause he's no actor.
He's not much of a director either, if you ask me.

Pulp Fiction is an interesting cult flick, but it's not very well made movie, and his latest flick looks like pure sh!t.

[Darth Insightful]

I believe the "Meet the Parents" sequel, "Meet the Fockers" is coming out this summer.

[Darth Vegas]

Oh boy, the first was ROTFLMFAO funny, but I don;t know if a sequal is nesseccary, hopefully it'll be good.


This years gaurunteed to be stupid movies:
#1: Dumb and Dumberer
#2: Kill Bill
#3: The Core
#4: Stupid Disney Pixar fish movie
#5: League of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#6: ???????????

[bodhisattva yoda]

i thought pulp fiction was expertly crafted. the cinematography and acting and music and everything are great and flow perfectly.

[Darth Vegas]

Crap flows great with crap.

It's not a really bad movie, but it's not all that great either.

But it does have some real sh!t in it, terrible ending, no real plot or even a continuous story, the stupid mexican chick, the nasty sh!t with the police officer and the pawn shop owner.......

[Javen]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 16 2003, 02:59 PM
well, his last movie was in 1997, so i guess it's been a while. But he's also tried to act...which is a bad idea for him cause he's no actor.

oh, Natalie Portman movie called Cold Mountain coming up? Any people wanna see?
I read that Faith Hill of all people tried out for the part that Natalie Portman got in Cold Mountain.

[bodhisattva yoda]

hey bond. listen you. the ending was brilliant. anti-climactic in an intentional sort of way, and hilarious with the clothing and the gun-tuck. and also sad with the foreknowledge that travolta's character is going to die. strangely very poignant. also, the film was intended not to have a single basic plot. the film is episodic and purposefully convoluted in terms of plot. perhaps you don't like unconventional films, i don't know, but whether you appreciate pulp fiction or not, it is a brilliant film.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by bodhisattva yoda@Mar 16 2003, 07:38 PM
it is a brilliant film.
Rrrrrright, and so is "American Beauty". style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

[bodhisattva yoda]

i can't quite tell if you're being sarcasitc or not. american beauty was a good film, but overrated.

[Darth Vegas]

Oh I think the first part kinda gives that away.

[bodhisattva yoda]

yeah, but it was a strange example... you thought american beauty was a poor film? what films do you like?

[Darth Vegas]

Films that aren't stupid. Like films that aren't considered "brilliant" like Pulp Fiction and American Beauty, most films like that, and IMO those films themselves, are crap.

[Brian]

The only movie for this year I care anything about as of now is LOTR: ROTK. I'm just not excited about T3, Matrix 2 and 3, Harry Potter 3, X-Men 2, Hulk, or anything else. Perhaps when the summer rolls around, my excitement level will increase. As of now, just not interested. I'm more ready for Episode III (what a mark, I am!).

[Brian]

Originally posted by Darth Insightful@Mar 16 2003, 07:50 PM
I believe the "Meet the Parents" sequel, "Meet the Fockers" is coming out this summer.
Didn't see this post. I am going to see this! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Darth Vegas]

Hey, OBG, Harry Potter 3 is next year. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

BTW, I'm not excited about it either.

[bodhisattva yoda]

bond, give me some examples of your favorite films so i can try to understand your perspective.

[Darth Vegas]

T2, LOTR, Braveheart, Indiana Jones Trilogy, Star Trek IV, Star Trek II, Star Trek: The motion picture, Star Trek: First Contact, THX, Jaws, Close Encounters of the third kind, Shindlers list, The Island of Dr. Moreau, Forrest Gump, Dumb and Dumber, Kung Pow, Austin Powers trilogy, Mad Max, The Running Man, Total Recall, Blues Brothers, The Fugitive, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, Die Hard trilogy, Armageddon, Batman, Superman and Superman 2, The good the bad and the ugly, Unforgiven, Tomb Stone, Field of Dreams, The Abyss, The Silence of the Lambs, Legends of the Fall, Platoon, Contact, UHF, Waynes World and Waynes World 2, The Rock, Face off, Highlander, Outbreak, Hook, Scarface, X-Men, Basic Instinct, The Patriot, 1941, Rob Roy, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Young Frankenstein, Sphere, Dark City, American Graffiti, The Saint, The Jerk, Les Miserables, Virtuosity, Glory, Cast Away, Clerks, The Excorcist, The Shining, As good as it gets, A few good men, Top Gun, Rambo, Rocky, The Hunt for Red October, Gone in sixty seconds, The French Connection, Pitch Black, A life less ordinary, Lethal Weapon 1-4, Fists of legend, Enter the Dragon, The One, Clash of the Titans, Jason and the Argonauts, Idependence Day, Sabrina (original and new), The Day the earth stood still, Legend, The Shawshank Redemption, The Score, Meet the Parents, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid, Apollo 13, Crocidile Dundey, Speed, The Matrix, Conspiracy Theory, Aliens 1-3, The Fifth Element, just to name a few.

[Dark Skywalker 9]

Well, Dreamcatcher looks pretty sweet, as do both Matrix sequels and, of course, Return of the King. Also looking forward to seeing X-2, The Hulk, Bad Boyz II, Bruce Almighty, Anger Management and Bulletproof Monk.

And yes...I like movies!

[Darth Vegas]

Yeah Dreamcatcher is a must see, IMO.

Directed by the scribe of ESB and ROTJ, that's just an added bonus, as is the short Matrix film showing with the feature.

[Dark Skywalker 9]

Hell yeah, Bond...the Matrix short should be a good build-up for the sequels.

[bodhisattva yoda]

that's quite a list, bond. it's really a mixed bag. there are a lot of like, blockbuster popcorn films, but among those are some films that are considered brilliant by many, and are critically acclaimed. close encounters, for example, and the shining, and those scorsese films.

[Darth Insightful]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>but among those are some films that are considered brilliant by many, and are critically acclaimed. close encounters, for example, and the shining, and those scorsese films. [/b][/quote]

So are you saying Monty Python: Search for the Holy Grail was not critically acclaimed?

I forgot about Anger Management. That looks pretty funny. I'm not a fan of anything dealing with the Matrix. Keanu Reeves couldn't act his way out of a wet paper bag. The only movie I can tolerate him in is The Replacements.

[Mann]

So, i've taken your list Bond, and extracted what i see as crap movies on it. Here:

Indiana Jones Trilogy (Temple of doom?)
Star Trek: The motion picture
The Island of Dr. Moreau (new or old?)
Kung Pow??
Armageddon
Legends of the Fall
Outbreak
Sphere
Gone in sixty seconds
A life less ordinary
Lethal Weapon 1-4 (3 and 4?)
Fists of legend
Enter the Dragon
The One
Clash of the Titans
Legend

KUNG POW? that was one of the dumbest movies ever! Not even funny!

THE SPHERE? Can you tell me exactly what happened in that movie? I'm still baffled.

Island of Dr. Moreau is crap in every movie.

You like alot of bad Jet Li movies huh?

Legend??

You are one step away from putting Pearl Harbor on this list. If you somehow forgot it and edit it, I will disreagard your opinion on film.

BTW, Pulp Fiction is renowned throughout the world as just as influential as Star Wars. it is, the style and look and writing are all incorporated in films today.

[bodhisattva yoda]

i pretty much agree with you mann, except regarding the island of dr. moreau. i really like that film. there's something profoundly creepy about it. there were unnecessary changes from the novel, i'll give you that.
and i do like the temple of doom, but in the same way i like return of the jedi. i loved it in my childhood.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 17 2003, 04:03 PM
So, i've taken your list Bond, and extracted what i see as crap movies on it.
I never said they were all great films Mann, and I didn't say that I like them in that exact order, or if that's even a complete compilation, those are films I enjoy, all of them. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

BTW, Enter the Dragon is considered the greatest martial arts film of all time, and it's Bruce Lee, not Jet Li, and Clash of the Titans is classic Ray Harihousen, but I bet somewhere during your quest for knowledge about the Acedemy Awards, you somehow forgot to learv about the original Special Effects master.

[Jors_Dedon]

A cowboy bebop film? Sweet! What do you all think about Pirates of the Caribbean?(sp?) The chick who played... ummm, who was it? One of the handmaidens in TPM... anyway, she plays opposite of Johnny Depp. The Matrix movies look pretty sweet... even though I haven't even seen the first one. (Yes... I know. I just haven't gotten around to it. Everyone scolds me.) Bruce Almighty looks a little... um... 90s-ish. Seriously, all of Carey's stuff isn't even that funny anymore. Let's see... Ang Lee directs The Hulk, so you know (and I'm hoping) it's not going to be like all the other Superhero movies. If Ang Lee directs, you know it's gonna be trippy. Plus, I heard that the comics are really psycho too. Speaking of superhero movies "The Punisher" is in the early, early, early works. I hope they find a great actor for him, cause the Punisher is my all-time favorite "superhero".

[bodhisattva yoda]

i'm not sure about all these superhero movies... it's kind of evident that hollywood is running out of ideas...
but. i have heard that a hellboy film will be made, which should be interesting. i don't really follow comics, but i love hellboy and johnny the homicidal maniac. i just don't really care for conventional comics. are old gen 13 comics worth anything? i wonder.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Jors_Dedon@Mar 17 2003, 06:51 PM
What do you all think about Pirates of the Caribbean?(sp?) The chick who played... ummm, who was it? One of the handmaidens in TPM... anyway, she plays opposite of Johnny Depp.
Orlando Bloom is in the film as well.

It should be a pretty cool swashbuckler flick.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by bodhisattva yoda@Mar 17 2003, 07:03 PM
i'm not sure about all these superhero movies... it's kind of evident that hollywood is running out of ideas...

Not really, it's kind of evident that the Studios are just now able to make the films, they would've made alot of em' years ago, but there was an issue with the rights to most of them. It was a huge deal, and it jsut recently was all sorted out.

[Javen]

I wish that they would make a movie of couple of Comics that I read. Green Arrow would be one I would like to see and also Thor.

[Justin]

Flash and Green Lantern would make awesome movies too. Unless they're about the current incarnations of the characters that appear in the comics today.

I'd like to see a Justice League of America movie.

[Jors_Dedon]

Aren't they making a Fantastic Four movie?

[flagcupomeatball]

Yes they are has anyone seen Chicago

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Clash of the Titans [/b][/quote]

ok, this movie is deemed a really really bad special effects movie. just think, not all special effects movies are good. this one, is just deemed bad. Acting is bad, writing is bad, effects are about the only good thing.

oh, about enter the dragon, my bad. I though you menat Kiss of the Dragon- JEt Li movie. I give Bruce Lee props. he's fantastic.

oh, and the original special effects master came before Clash of the Titans. somewhere with D.W. Griffith and a little movie called Birth of a Nation.

[Jors_Dedon]

I love the movie "Big Trouble in Little China". Awesome, awesome, awesome...

[Mann]

Fantastic Four movie could be good, only depends on who they cast. The Thing is probably gonna be CG, as is the human torch.

I've seen Chicago, great film. worthy of Best picture? definatly!

[flagcupomeatball]

Oh my gosh me too it is a great movie

[Mann]

i thought Gere should have been nominated for something. He had had the best character!

I think it's gonna sweep on Sunday!

[flagcupomeatball]

Yeah you are right

[Jors_Dedon]

The Arc2 project's movie is opening in July sometime. I can't wait for "Cactuses!"
(This is the movie that is going to take the universe by storm.)

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 18 2003, 04:11 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Clash of the Titans

ok, this movie is deemed a really really bad special effects movie. just think, not all special effects movies are good. this one, is just deemed bad. Acting is bad, writing is bad, effects are about the only good thing. [/b][/quote]
That's entirely your opinion, keep that in mind. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>That's entirely your opinion, keep that in mind. [/b][/quote]

an opinion shared by just about every film critic. Read the reviews. They agree the effects are good, but the movie as a whole is just goofy. And it is. It's a modern day Armageddon or Pearl Harbor.

[bodhisattva yoda]

i'll pick it up if i ever see it at the library.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 19 2003, 01:14 PM
an opinion shared by just about every film critic. Read the reviews. They agree the effects are good, but the movie as a whole is just goofy. And it is. It's a modern day Armageddon or Pearl Harbor.
You know most people don't like or agree with critics.

Don't take this the wrong way, I know you know quiet a bit about movies, but you still have a lot to learn, what critics and the acedemy give are their opinions, and not everbody shares them, most people don't.

Look at the numbers, no major critic has ever liked Star Wars, they called the original "Stupid and beyond stupid" and then years later they're saying the prequels just fall short of the originals (bullsh*t!!!). The numbers prove that somebody REALLY likes those films.

Nobody should be payed to tell somebody their personnel feelings of a movie. That's just one more way that media tries to influence the things we like and the way we live our lives. The media is almost always biased, and most the time it's nothing more than a matter of personnal tastes and beliefs.

BTW, I personnally don't like Pearl Harbor, except for a few redeeming factors in the film, Alec Baldwin, Cuba Gooding Jr. and John Voight (who played FDR to perfection!) not to mention some of the best and most realistic effects shots ever seen on screen, it was like being there. Definately some of ILM's best. The effort they made to restore and rebuild actually WW2 craft for use in the film made it that much more worth while, it wasn't a really bad film by any stretch. But as I said before, it's all a matter of OPINION.

[bodhisattva yoda]

you know, i've never seen heat. i don't think i'd care for it though.

[Mann]

HEAT is awesome!

Al Pacino and Robert De Niro on the same screen! It's just great.

[bodhisattva yoda]

yeah but.. the title... it sounds melodramatic. what's it about? i generally agree with the rest of your movie list in terms of cinematic greatness...but heat? and the untouchables i didn't really care for, actually, but that was probably mostly due to the premise... i mean, enforcing prohibition laws and stuff. i saw kevin costner as the bad guy.

[Mann]

Heat is a complex story that boils down into a cat and mouse game. Robert De Niro plays the master theif who is out to steal anything. then he runs into Al Pacino, who tries to track him down. The story around them also involves other subplots like a psychotic murderer that was a part of De Niro's crew, Val Kilmer's (Another of De Niro's group) wife (Ashley Judd) is having an affair, De Niro has a love interest he grows to truly love (Amy Brennamen), Al Pacino has marriage problems, and even Natalie Portman shows up as his adopted daughter who longs for a real father figure. The movie is about 3 hours long, but it plays out so well, it's enjoyable. rent it.

Oh, and I love the untouchables. The reason I didn't see Costner as the bad guy was Costner didn't want to kill anybody until they threatened or killed his friends. De Niro's Capone DID want to kill people.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Look at the numbers, no major critic has ever liked Star Wars, they called the original "Stupid and beyond stupid" and then years later they're saying the prequels just fall short of the originals (bullsh*t!!!). The numbers prove that somebody REALLY likes those films.[/b][/quote]

actually, Lots of critics loved star wars. take Roger Ebert for one example. He loves Star wars, and he loves the first prequel. Lots of critics like star wars, which is why they denouce the prequels. Ebert's the only one that's been around to judge them both. I read the New York Times review, and it was praised.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Don't take this the wrong way, I know you know quiet a bit about movies, but you still have a lot to learn, what critics and the acedemy give are their opinions, and not everbody shares them, most people don't.[/b][/quote]

SOme do, and some don't. Usually the acadmey goes for a public favorite to win best picture. Sure Some times they go for lesser known movies, such as in 1977 when Annie Hall won. But look at Annie Hall now. It's deemed a masterpiece. People who see it have the same reaction as Star Wars viewers do. You love it or hate it. Movie are about making opinions. I know about some offbeat choices. Hell, Every time it's on, I watch Battlefield Earth. I know it sucks, but it's funny to watch. Just understand that alot of movies are given praise for effects, not the movie as a whole. Clash of the Titans is considered a flop, commerically and Critically. Harry Hamlin in a toga? please, don't make me laugh.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>it wasn't a really bad film by any stretch. But as I said before, it's all a matter of OPINION. [/b][/quote]

LOL, that's cause you don't have to stretch to know this movie is bad. First off, the effects were good, i give you that, but misused. at 7 in the morning, would you play baseball? That shot was so contrived. Also, do you think that Navy pilots are expert hand gun marksmen (final sequence, Ben affleck nails about 3 guys)? No, the movie is terrible.

Most outrageous scene: 6 planes chasing the single car...and can't catch it! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Is it my imagination, or do planes go about 10 times faster than cars?

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 20 2003, 09:06 PM
actually, Lots of critics loved star wars.
Actually they didn't at all, and they thought the film was going to bomb and GL was an idiot for releasing it in the summer. GL himself thought it was gonna be horrible!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>LOL, that's cause you don't have to stretch to know this movie is bad. First off, the effects were good, i give you that, but misused. at 7 in the morning, would you play baseball? That shot was so contrived. Also, do you think that Navy pilots are expert hand gun marksmen (final sequence, Ben affleck nails about 3 guys)? No, the movie is terrible.[/b][/quote]

Well, I used to play baseball in Highschool, we practiced first thing in morning. And a Navy pilot is definately a very good marksmen, most of them have Eagle's eyes. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

BTW, those are really frickin' retarded reasons to call the movie horrible.

[Saeth]

Matrix 2 is top of my list. And 8 Mile opened last night wich I REALLY want to see.

[Das_Funked]

Pearl Harbour = Film Should Be Used As Toilet Paper.

[Javen]

Originally posted by Das_Funked@Mar 21 2003, 08:57 AM
Pearl Harbour = Film Should Be Used As Toilet Paper.
Exactly, what a waste of a film.

[Darth Coil]

Saeth, please don't go to 8 mile. It's a crap movie. And seriously, a movie about a rapper? Come on who would want to see that!? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>BTW, those are really frickin' retarded reasons to call the movie horrible. [/b][/quote]

do you want more reasons? I could give you real reasons why the movie sucked, but hey, those are just a few of my personal Jibs.

Oh and check the New York Times again. The idea was thought as a disaster, but the presentation was considered outstanding. Yeah it was cheesy, but it was like your Clash of the Titans. Cheesy, yet entertaining. Though, most critics found Star Wars silly, it was a pioneering venture. They all knew it.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 21 2003, 04:15 PM
Though, most critics found Star Wars silly, it was a pioneering venture. They all knew it.
I'm sorry that doesn't fit the facts, George Lucas himself has stated numerous times that he himself thought the film was going to utterly fail. In fact it nearly wasn't even released, a month before the films release the effects hadn't even been started yet, everybody thought it was a lost cause, but look at it now, and look what the critics say now about the new Star Wars movies, they compare them to the old ones that they said were stupid!!!

My point is, critics aren't a valuable source of information, whether or not you like something is based on your preception, not on what someone else says.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry that doesn't fit the facts, George Lucas himself has stated numerous times that he himself thought the film was going to utterly fail. In fact it nearly wasn't even released, a month before the films release the effects hadn't even been started yet, everybody thought it was a lost cause, but look at it now, and look what the critics say now about the new Star Wars movies, they compare them to the old ones that they said were stupid!!![/b][/quote]

See, you don't get that I mean the finished product is what is judged. Critics don't go asking about what production was like. The true story is that when people heard the idea of Star Wars, and read the script they laughed. HAve you seen it on Paper, it is laughable. But, when it came out on screen, critics and audiences loved it.

OH and the critics then aren't the ones now. Only a few are still around from 1977. Most have retired and given their jobs to someone else. SO these people comparing the two trilogies are the ones who experienced the first trilogy as a member of the audience.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My point is, critics aren't a valuable source of information, whether or not you like something is based on your preception, not on what someone else says. [/b][/quote]

I agree, my opinion is my own. It just so happens i share my opinion sometimes with the critics. However, when you say Critics aren't a valuable source of information, you undermine their intelligence. They are really smart, or they wouldn't have their jobs. They are movie historians.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 22 2003, 09:44 AM
But, when it came out on screen, critics and audiences loved it.


Audiences, yes, but critics, no. As I said before, the films reivews said "Stupid and beyond stupid" I'm not talking about 20th century fox execs, I'm talking about top film critics of the day that had seen the film.

[Darth Vegas]

Originally posted by Mann@Mar 22 2003, 09:44 AM
However, when you say Critics aren't a valuable source of information, you undermine their intelligence. They are really smart, or they wouldn't have their jobs. They are movie historians.
Yeah but whether or not you enjoy something is not dictated by anyone else's opinion, that's why critics are a waste of time.

[Mann]

You've made me do this!

Since it's not online because it's so old, I've had to type this so bear with me on the typos.

excerpts from the New York Times Review of Star Wars 1977 by Vincent Canby

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The way definitley not to approach Star Wars though is to expect a film of cosmic implications or to foot note it with so many references that one anticipates it as if it were a literary duty. It's fun and funny[/b][/quote]

(gee, a little far off from Stupid and beyond stupid huh?)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>One of Lucas's particular achievements is the manner in which he is able to recall the tackiness of the old comic strips and serials he loves without making a movie that is, itself, tacky. Star Wars is good enoguh to convince the most skeptical eight-year-old sci-fi buff, who is the toughest critics.[/b][/quote]

Oh and the New York Times is probably the premier newspaper in America, in case you were wondering.

[RollaFett]

I've lost track, isn't this supposed to be about upcoming movies? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sly.gif

[Jango]

return of the king.

[Jango]

spider man 2

[Jango]

the hulk.

[Jango]

2fast2furious

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I've lost track, isn't this supposed to be about upcoming movies? [/b][/quote]

so? We got a little off topic. It's what happens on every thread.

[RollaFett]

Oh, I know. Relax, I wasn't accusing anyone of murder or anything.

[Padme]

Has anyone heard of Mel Gibson's new movie "The Passions"?

[RollaFett]

I have not. Tell us about it.

[Padme]

Well, he is the director. It is based on the last 12 hours of Jesus' life. It is not eveen going to be in english and it has no subtitles. He said that he wanted to make people feel like they were there. Alot of people are not happy about him making a movie abut that. He said that the violence in the movie was very graphic and that it looked very real. So, what does everyone think about it and how do you guys feel about him making a movie on that subject??

[Darth Vegas]

As long as they keep the loin clothe ON.

[Padme]

They are. James Cavizeil from "The Count of Monte Cristo" is playing Jesus.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, I know. Relax, I wasn't accusing anyone of murder or anything. [/b][/quote]

um, ok i wasn't mad. I think you take things to personal style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif


Not in english? how will they do that? Bloody hell!

[Darth Coil]

A Fast and The Furious part deux. The first one was horrible. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif
Stupid jokes flying around and guys that try to look though. Awful racing scenes, so fake!!

But then again that's what the kids like nowadays? ???

[Jango]

im waiting for x-men2

[Darth Coil]

Yeah, me too. I liked the first one a lot. I hope this one will be even better. Any movie Captain Pickard has a role in is good. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif So this one promises to be as well.

[Mann]

anyone watch the WB last night and see the sneak peek?

[Jors_Dedon]

Missed it... Did it reveal anything special?

[Erick Landrider]

Originally posted by Padme@Mar 23 2003, 04:51 PM
They are. James Cavizeil from "The Count of Monte Cristo" is playing Jesus.
I loved James Cavaziel in Monte Cristo and in "Frequency"

I'm hope he'll get some major exposure with this

Oh, and about "The Core"; I can see Rogerr Ebert now "After seeing this film "Armogedon" looks like an Oscar worthy film"

How can people keep making these crappy excuses for movies

[Mann]

It extended the scene with the "knives" line. Pyro goes ballistic. It's awesome!

[Jango]

I saw chicago I gave it four stars!

[RollaFett]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Mann Posted: Mar 23 2003, 05:28 PM

QUOTE
Oh, I know. Relax, I wasn't accusing anyone of murder or anything.


um, ok i wasn't mad. I think you take things to personal [/b][/quote]

Heh, heh...I was thinking the same about you. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[The Prism]

You all forgot!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

Kevin Smith's new film "Jersey Girl" with Ben Affleck and J.Lo comes out some time this year.

[flagcupomeatball]

That looks really good i cannot wait......

[Mann]

The Core is hyped as the dumbest looking movie of the year

[Darth Vegas]

I really like the latest commercial for "The Core".

"This is what Armageddon wanted to be!!!" style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Mann]

I haven't seen that one, but are you serious?
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[Darth Vegas]

I am dead serious Mann. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif

[Mann]

have you guys seen the reviews for it? It's not doing half bad with critics.

[kopernikuz]

Ebert had trouble swallowing it and that guy eats anything.

[RollaFett]

LOL!!!

As far as 'Jersey Girl' goes, I believe it's not due out until November.

[Mann]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Ebert had trouble swallowing it and that guy eats anything. [/b][/quote]

LOL

well, actually he gave it 2 1/2 stars, which means he's afraid to say he liked it. But I admire Ebert for saying what he likes as Entertainment. He gives movies like XXX three stars because he knows you shouldn't take them seriously. He also says Minority Report was the years best film, one of my favorites. Though, he also gives in sometimes to hyped movie like Gangs of New York (he mentions how bad it is, yet he gives it three and a half stars??!).

[Mann]

I think I heard that JErsey Girl got bad viewings from some people, so they had to go redue some of the editing.

[kopernikuz]

Originally posted by Padme@Mar 23 2003, 03:40 PM
Has anyone heard of Mel Gibson's new movie "The Passions"?
Bumping an old topic here... but the film is retitled "The Passion of The Christ", and I had the extreme privilege of viewing this film on Tuesday at a screening with Mel Gibson present.

I gotta tell you, regardless of your belief system, this movie is one fantastic peice of art. It is beautifully filmed, gorgeous, superb acting. It is incredible. I had no idea such vision was in Mel Gibson to be honest.

It is in Latin and Aramaic and had subtitles, but the subtitles were hardly necessary... so much is "said" in this movie even when there is no dialogue. But the choice to go with the dead languages was genius... it lends so much more credibility to hear the words quite possibly the way they were actually heard at the time. Nothing is more odd than when a movie takes place in a foreign country and everyone speaks English. It actually takes the movie to a different level to hear the Latin and Aramaic conversationally spoken. Very cool.

It's been given an R rating, because they pull no punches portraying the crucifixion. They went to great lengths to research the process, the historic events, and even the medical expert opinions on the effects on the human body. It's both brilliant and disturbing at the same time. Very graphic, but very real.

It is poetic and artistically rendered, not a simple narrative of the events. It will likely be hailed as the greatest biblical movie ever made... and truly it's merits as a film outside of its subject matter will be heralded as well. It's very well done.

[brookie]

Originally posted by kopernikuz+Jan 22 2004, 04:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kopernikuz @ Jan 22 2004, 04:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Padme@Mar 23 2003, 03:40 PM
Has anyone heard of Mel Gibson's new movie "The Passions"?
Bumping an old topic here... but the film is retitled "The Passion of The Christ", and I had the extreme privilege of viewing this film on Tuesday at a screening with Mel Gibson present.

I gotta tell you, regardless of your belief system, this movie is one fantastic peice of art. It is beautifully filmed, gorgeous, superb acting. It is incredible. I had no idea such vision was in Mel Gibson to be honest.

It is in Latin and Aramaic and had subtitles, but the subtitles were hardly necessary... so much is "said" in this movie even when there is no dialogue. But the choice to go with the dead languages was genius... it lends so much more credibility to hear the words quite possibly the way they were actually heard at the time. Nothing is more odd than when a movie takes place in a foreign country and everyone speaks English. It actually takes the movie to a different level to hear the Latin and Aramaic conversationally spoken. Very cool.

It's been given an R rating, because they pull no punches portraying the crucifixion. They went to great lengths to research the process, the historic events, and even the medical expert opinions on the effects on the human body. It's both brilliant and disturbing at the same time. Very graphic, but very real.

It is poetic and artistically rendered, not a simple narrative of the events. It will likely be hailed as the greatest biblical movie ever made... and truly it's merits as a film outside of its subject matter will be heralded as well. It's very well done. [/b][/quote]
i style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif am sooo excited...