The Shaak Ti thread

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I really like this jedi but I don't know much about her. So this is a thread where you can talk all you want about her. LIke who was her master? what lightsaber form does she use? and what planet is she from?

[thepepgal]

I really like this jedi but I don't know much about her. So this is a thread where you can talk all you want about her. LIke who was her master? what lightsaber form does she use? and what planet is she from?

This is what the official site has on her.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/index.html

There is nothing to state who was her master on the site including the EU info.

This is what wikipedia has:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaak_Ti#Ti.2C_Shaak

This states she was a master of Makashi form of laghtsaber.

Both states she is from Shili and is from the Togruta race.

[RollaFett]

Without trying to sound cruel, I really would've liked to see her get killed in ROTS. We get the deleted scene with Grievous, but that's it. Also, in the ROTS novel, there's a scene where she senses Anakin's approach when he raids the temple, but that's it. I would've thought that her and Anakin would've faced off in the temple.

[csr74]

Well, that part of the novel was just a consequence of the second deleted scene, which was Anakin killing her, being deleted very late in the making of the movie. Curiously enough, nearly everybody who has imagined that scene thought she would put up a decent fight, but in that scene she´s assassinated without having the scarcest opportunity to defend herself.


*Refrains self from suggesting shooting the scene with RollaFett instead of Shaak Ti*:devil:

[RollaFett]

Wait, I don't remember a deleted scene of anakin killing her. I remember reading that it existed, but I don't remember seeing it. Unless I'm having a major self memory wipe.

*Refrains self from suggesting shooting the scene with RollaFett instead of Shaak Ti*:devil:

LOL!

[csr74]

If i remember it correctly, the scene in which Anakin kills her was shot, but it wasn´t included in the DVD. Possibly it wasn´t as complete as the one onboard the "Invisible Hand". All i´ve seen are a few photos of it, in fact.

[Wild Karde 66]

Correct - Anakin stabbing Shaak Ti in the back was filmed but not on the DVD although there are pictures out there of the scence.

The DVD contains Grevious stabbing her in the back.

You get the impression that George didn't want to see her put up a fight?

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Yeah I have got thet feeling before, by the way welcome to the senate wild karde 66!!!!!!!!!

[csr74]

I wonder why GL did that, as if this was a character with a single purpose on its presence and only that purpose justified its being included in the movie. What could be this purpose? It seems as if she was there only to be killed...and causing some impact in the viewers and perhaps in another character.

[thepepgal]

It makes her appear very weak in the force. Makes everyone wonder why she could sense Anakin coming?

Obviously she was just there to make up numbers and not to contribute.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I thought she was very in tune with the force, hence her senses were highly attuned. However, this does not necessarily make one a great warrior and hence she was easily slain by Anakin, in the ROTS novelisation.

[Fallen One]

Some Shaak Ti pics...

[RollaFett]

I thought she was very in tune with the force, hence her senses were highly attuned. However, this does not necessarily make one a great warrior and hence she was easily slain by Anakin, in the ROTS novelisation.

See, I don't even remember that scene from the book. Are you sure it was in there? Because I was waiting for it and remember being disappointed.

[csr74]

Well, as far as i know, that scene didn´t appear in the novel. It´s said that Anakin (by that moment already converted into Vader) was looking for her, but apparently he didn´t find her.

Let´s see, she was a Master and member of the Council, therefore she couldn´t had been so bad as a warrior. And in the Clone Wars cartoon series it appeared more like the contrary. This makes even more strange those scenes. I mean, you imagine her dying (if it must be the case) after an heroic fight or something like that, not just sitting there.

By the way, thanks for the pics, Fallen One.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Yeah where did you get the pics fallen one?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

See, I don't even remember that scene from the book. Are you sure it was in there? Because I was waiting for it and remember being disappointed.

I have re-read some passages of ROTS and this is what I have found:

Firstly, before Anakin goes to ensure Sidious isn't killed: 'Shaak Ti felt him coming before she could see him..........he didn't look good.' As she thanks him for what he told Mace he tells her to get out of his way and doesn't call her Master. Then she lets him in to the temple which is sealed as she 'has no reason not to'. Anakin tells her that he is the Chosen One and so should be there and that 'he will do what he is supposed to do'. He then lurches away from her hand and runs away. This is all taken from Chapter 17, The Face of the Dark.

Right at the end of Chapter 17 Anakin goes back to the Temple and speaks to Gat Master Jurokk, who tells him that Shaak Ti felt something awful happen through the force and that she is in the meditation chambers. Anakin then kills Jurokk. This seems to be the last mention of Shaak Ti in the book.

I thought that Anakin had killed her - I must have got that knowledge from somewhere - I don't make things up! Ah - just found it - here: http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/?id=bts

So, she definitely died in the purge in the Jedi Temple but whether she was killed by Anakin or troopers is open to supposition.

[csr74]

Er...i don´t konw how to say this..but since you´ve looked it up at the Database...you can read there too that she was "believed to be killed in the onslaught". And in fact, in the Wookieepedia you can find more info no her. As far as the Movie goes...she´s alive.

[thepepgal]

Er...i don´t konw how to say this..but since you´ve looked it up at the Database...you can read there too that she was "believed to be killed in the onslaught". And in fact, in the Wookieepedia you can find more info no her. As far as the Movie goes...she´s alive.

Actually by the movies she is dead since Yoda tells Obi Wan that none of the other jedi have survived. They were also both at the Temple, so they would have found her body in there somewhere.

[csr74]

Sorry, my mistake, i should´ve said that she survived the Purge (and the raid on the Temple), which is compatible with the fact that she´s dead by the time of ANH.

And one would think they were too busy to look for someone´s corpse in that moment...

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Maybe, but she could have recieved the modified homing beacon message that obi-wan and yoda sent.

[csr74]

But...that would mean she was out of the planet...unless she made up her mind (very fast) and breezed out of the Temple towards somewhere else (Utapau?) before the raid...being unnoticed.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

She was in the temple when Anakin and the Clone Troopers came to murder the remaining Jedi.

[csr74]

That´s what i mean...then, what happens? Did she managed to escape somehow? (since she seems to be alive, it appears to be the case).

[RollaFett]

^ I don't doubt that at all. The fact that Lucas filmed two different death scenes or her indicates that he mostl likely liked that character and wanted to show her death. That's why I was disappointed to not have her death included in the novel.

[csr74]

That makes the situation even weirder. I mean, a character who was suppossed to die in one way or the other, gets both death scenes cut from the movie, and therefore (as far as the movie goes) survives! And i think there was a list somewhere of Jedi who survived the Order 66, which was official and she was there (alongside Quinlan Vos to mention a well known character).

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Strange, because in the novel she was said to be in the temple. In the film Yoda and Obi-Wan note that there were no survivors of the temple massacre. And yet there seems to be the possibility that she survived somehow. I believe she has not been seen in any EU material after ROTS, so I guess there is no definitive answer.

Having just watched Clone Wars Volume 2 I have to say that Shaak Ti did appear to be a very strong warrior, which was not the impression I had before. However, she did some great work in trying to stop Grevious and associates getting hold of Palpatine, although she did ultimately fail.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Exactly, Shaak Ti is a very strong warrior so I think that if she would have died it wouldn't have been deleted from the movie unless George Lucas wanted her live.

[RollaFett]

Well sure, but to serve what purpose? He's not making any more SW films. Hmmm...maybe he plans to use her in the TV show somehow?

[csr74]

Perhaps. Unless they are sparing her for some other material or perhaps some kind of weird retcon-all-solving-making-loose-ends-meet sort of story. We can speculate a lot on that...

It´s been said she´s an important character and that would be a reason to show her death onscreen, but...in the movies is not clear at all why she´s important.:confused:

[Wild Karde 66]

Shaak Ti is not important to the films in the least. She is probably important to Lucas because of her looks. She has a great look and sure, he could use other Togrotas in the TV series, but having a known Jedi from the films gives him a better angle to draw interest.

And very important from a licensing point of view - colorful interesting looking character that should appeal to kids. Give her a starring role and watch the dollars roll in.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

From what I here she escaped and is going to be explored more in EU.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

And if they do write a book about her I will definitly buy it.

[csr74]

I tend to agree with Wil Karde 66 partially, though in the EU she seems to have her own importance, and not only because of her looks. But the point i was trying to make is: taking into account many people only watch the movies and therefore have no previous knowledge of the character, isn´t it a bit strange to have her death so prominently displayed? I mean, people would wonder why does she appear (and only for that), since she´s not seen before (or not very noticeably, at least).

[Jedi Master 2k5]

True

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I don't think that Shaak Ti has died I think there is still a use for her in the eu star wars universe

[csr74]

Let´s see what they do with her.

Weird how a couple deleted scenes generate so much discussion.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Yea I heard she escaped with Pablo Jill and T'ra Saa

[csr74]

That´s a new piece of information for me, where did you get it from?

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I heard that on the star wars rumor mill

[csr74]

Mmmmmh....let´s wait and see.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

She Met Quinlan Vos,and Tholme on Kashyyk

[csr74]

And that?:blink:

[Jedi Master 2k5]

They escaped to the outer rim

[csr74]

Sounds logical to me, but again, i must ask, that comes from the rumour mill?

[Jedi Master 2k5]

No actually that I found on the sw site

[csr74]

Even so, i tend to feel cautious until some kind of official confirmation appears.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I know what you mean. but I heard this on the wikipedi Vos profile

[thepepgal]

Even so, i tend to feel cautious until some kind of official confirmation appears.

The first picture from the new game seems to clinch it.

http://www.starwars.com/gaming/videogames/news/news20070214.html

Click on the top right of article to view the image. It couldn't be anyone else but Shaak Ti unless this is a new character.

[csr74]

Mmmmh, thanks for the info, thepepgal. The image...well, it looks a bit unfinished for me...and there are some details that doesn´t quite fit in...i must admit i´m not sure wether it´s Shaak Ti. The size and form of the red stains inside the white ones surrounding the eyes don´t seem to correspond....there seems to happen something with the montrals...weren´t they supposed to be in blue and white stripes?

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I am so going to buy that game when it comes out what about you?

[thepepgal]

Mmmmh, thanks for the info, thepepgal. The image...well, it looks a bit unfinished for me...and there are some details that doesn´t quite fit in...i must admit i´m not sure wether it´s Shaak Ti. The size and form of the red stains inside the white ones surrounding the eyes don´t seem to correspond....there seems to happen something with the montrals...weren´t they supposed to be in blue and white stripes?

I'm not sure who else it could be? This is a concept pic and not an actual picture from the game.

Does anyone else know of any other Togruta who was a jedi?

[csr74]

Well, i´m not sure who could it be...since Shaak Ti´s appearance Togruta Jedi have flourished and you find them (mainly females) in nearly every story. There are some like Deran Nalual from the time of the Purge...Previously there was a Master Raana Tey in the KOTOR epoch...and some more.


A note, i was mistaken referring to the montrals, they aren´t neccessarily in white and blue stripes, but also more like blue in the lower part and white in the upper part (anyways, this doesn´t appear in the picture, unless the character is wearing some sort of veil over them?)

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I don't know of any other Torgruta jedi. Plus I think they would have mentioned them in the books if their were any more.Unless they were killed in the arena at geonosis.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Another survivor order 66 and helps leia and the other people in the njo is
Shen-Jon Echuu

[Obidobi]

Are you guys talking about EU stuff in the movie forum? Hmmm.... Skeptical....:blink:

[Wild Karde 66]

She lives!!!!

And she will be in the new The Force Unleashed game.

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/The_Force_Unleashed_Game_Informer_Article_103750.a sp

Here is the main quote:

"What they can say, is that Shaak Ti did not die in Episode III (the scenes were cut, she survived the temple massacre, hip hip hooray!) and she is a antagonist of the player character in this game (remember, you're a Sith Apprentice!)."

[Darth Zan Maka]

Are you guys talking about EU stuff in the movie forum? Hmmm.... Skeptical....:blink:
Senator Obidobi recently visited Quinlan Vos thread with the same scepticizm. I'd say there was little more agression in his reply there. Why is it so important for you, Senator?

All these people above don't pay attention to these details they are in the stream of the theme and obviously enjoying the discussion. Thats what really matters in the Senate, I suppose.

[Darth Zan Maka]

She lives!!!!

... and she is a antagonist of the player character in this game (remember, you're a Sith Apprentice!)."

Yes, Shaak Ti's various deaths were canceled and she will be in the new The Force Unleashed game. BUT...
Mr T alerts the Senate with his thread TFN: Force Unleased For PC? (http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14801) Sad news, but we all can sign the petition.

[lovelucas]

didn't realize how much I miss spoilers.


only every day

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I know what you mean.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Did you know that Shaak Ti is the greatest Makashi master in the Jedi order.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I just found that out.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

ANy other Shaak Ti info.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

She is also in the newest sw video game.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I am disappointed that she is alive. Only in the sense that if so many Jedi remained alive they should have done a better job of opposing Sidious' rule. Vader was quite weak (relatively) in his early weeks in his new suit.

As far as I could tell, Shaak Ti was in the temple during the purge and when Yoda and Obi-Wan entered they said there were no survivors. Seems like someone is changing his mind again. :wink:

[Jedi Master 2k5]

I agree in someone changing their mind here.and I agree they should have attacked Vader.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

They had him outnumbered an out matched in lightsaber skill.

[RollaFett]

^ Oh yeah, because that worked so well when Mace and company confronted Palpatine.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

But he didn't know about anakin turning on him. And now the jedi know about him.

[Fallen One]

Deleted scene from Star wars Episode 3 Shaak Ti death at the hands of Grievous for those of you who have not seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnmBBB8-Q28

[RollaFett]

Well, that's on the dvd. What I really would like to see is the deleted scene of Anakin killing her.

[Fallen One]

Well, that's on the dvd. What I really would like to see is the deleted scene of Anakin killing her.Well no ****:scratchchin: it was for the people you did not see it my man. You and me both would like to see the anakin, shaak ti scene but it really is deleted there are just pics.

[Jedi Master 2k5]

Yeah the scene would have been awesome.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I thought that Shaak Ti escaped the Order 66 and came back in The Force Unleashed game... She trained a Jedi named, Maris Brood and I think they both will be killed by the Secret Apprentice...:duel::saber:

[csr74]

That last part of getting killed seems a bit dubious still...at least taking into account her luck in evading death.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Shaak Ti is the best!!!

[csr74]

I tend to agree with you on that one...:thumbs-up:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

She still looked young after a few years of Order 66. Right?

[csr74]

For some reason, it seems pretty common among Force users to look young for a long time...:scratchchin:

[thepepgal]

^ It's all that meditation that they do. :wink:

[The Prism]

A girl in my drama class a few years ago was named Shaak Ti. Not kidding.

[csr74]

I don´t know wether that´s cool or weird, The Prism.:giveup:



^ It's all that meditation that they do. :wink:

If it´s so, then what´s the matter with Obi-Wan, who looks older thant he should even without being a Jedi?:blink:

It seems Shaak Ti could provide him with some useful advice on how not to age too fast...

[thepepgal]

If it´s so, then what´s the matter with Obi-Wan, who looks older thant he should even without being a Jedi?:blink:

It seems Shaak Ti could provide him with some useful advice on how not to age too fast...

It's all those years watching over Luke that aged him. :nahnah:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

How about Luke?

He looked much more older in Episode 5 and 6 than he is in Episode 4.

Jedi Meditation is nothing for me. Everything will become old. I think, the artist who draw the Shaak Ti's pic want to make her look good.

[thepepgal]

Maybe it's a female jedi thing to keep their youth. If you look at the picture of Mara on the cover of Sacrifice she doesn't look in her 50's. :giveup:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Maybe it's a female jedi thing to keep their youth. If you look at the picture of Mara on the cover of Sacrifice she doesn't look in her 50's. :giveup:

That included Jaina Solo and her mother... i just don't get it, why a Jedi Master wanted a young apprerance? Don't she have a job to do?

[thepepgal]

That included Jaina Solo and her mother... i just don't get it, why a Jedi Master wanted a young apprerance? Don't she have a job to do?

Yes but women can multitask better than guys so maybe there's time to do a jedi mind trick on all the artists who draw them. :wink:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

:rofl:

Really, that make some sense.

[csr74]

There would a question about Yoda, too, he looked very old (i wonder wether his longevity was natural or Force-related).


Anyways, if she survives the Force Unleashed game, she can always make a deal with Obi-Wan, he teaches her how to become a Force Ghost and she teaches him how to remain young...:wink:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^ LOL

I don't think that she will survive for the attack from the SA cause he is too powerful. Extreme powerful. But if she does, she will rather teach he new padawan Maris Brood than the old grumpy Obi-Wan.:scratchchin:

[csr74]

Well, most probably he would pay no heed to her lessons because he thinks looking older fits better with his character and so on...:wink:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I think that Obi-Wan will never get a single thing into his brain when Shaak Ti is teaching.:rofl:

[csr74]

Uh, oh...that seems to imply some "attachment" between them doesn´t it?:hug:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Maybe... You see, Obi-Wan is single and so do Shaak Ti. :w00t::rofl:

[csr74]

Don´t say it too loud...:wink:


Funny, now i think of it, well, somehow it could work...i mean they could get somewhere...

[jedimasterElizabeth]

^ LOL....

Shaak Ti just to big for him. She is much bigger than a normal human. Right? With her 'horns-hair'...

[csr74]

Well, not counting the montrals (the horns) she´s slightly shorter than him.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Really? Well, there is a chance she is a lesbian.

[csr74]

You seem to enjoy finding problems...:wink:

[jedimasterElizabeth]

I do.:nahnah:

[csr74]

I see, he, he, he.:rofl:

On the other hand, who knows? Weirder things have happened before in the SWU.

[The Prism]

I don´t know wether that´s cool or weird, The Prism.

Neither do I.

[csr74]

Is the name of that girl possibly Shakti?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Yep! My name is a bit weird.

[csr74]

Sorry? Have i missed somethig?:confused:

[The Prism]

Is the name of that girl possibly Shakti?

I think so. I'm sure she's named after the Hindu (I think?) goddess, and not the SW character, so yeah.

[csr74]

Yes, there´s an Hindu goddess that has that name (Shakti). Apparently, Shaak Ti is derived from that.

[The Prism]

Yes, there´s an Hindu goddess that has that name (Shakti). Apparently, Shaak Ti is derived from that.

Yup. I was pretty sure it was a Hindu goddess, but I put the "I think" in there in case I was wrong (didn't want to offend anyone) :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

LOL.

Can she fight like Shaak Ti?

[csr74]

No idea, my knowledge doesn´t go so far, sorry.

[Orandhite]

Probably not - Shakti is the embodiment of all things femininely divine. I don't think ass-kicking is one of her attributes. :)

[jedimasterElizabeth]

No... I mean the girl named Shakti... LOL

[JediBendu]

Probably not - Shakti is the embodiment of all things femininely divine. I don't think ass-kicking is one of her attributes. :)

WIKI:

Shakti meaning sacred force, power or energy is the Hindu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism) concept or personification of the divine feminine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminine) aspect, sometimes referred to as 'The Divine Mother'. Shakti represents the active, dynamic principles of feminine power.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ And there was me thinking that's what the Spice Girls represented! :rofl:

[csr74]

Oh Dear...the thread has gone crazy. How is it possible that we end up in the Spice Girls?:giveup:

[Orandhite]

^ Nobody should EVER end up in the Spice Girls. :scared:

[JediBendu]

^ somebody probably should've told Eddie Murphey that =)

[csr74]

Mmmmh...what if we start talking about the threads´ titular? Just as an idea...


By the way, how is it possible that Raana Tey gets a bigger article in Wookieepedia than Shaak Ti?:worried:

[The Prism]

LOL.

Can she fight like Shaak Ti?

Not sure. But I know she's into modelling. Here's her myspace: (warning: some of the pics on there are...adult.)

http://www.myspace.com/spindl

[JediBendu]

http://www.myspace.com/spindl

nice!

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Crap! MySpace error!

[VADERGOTH]

you get to hunt shaak ti as vaders secret apprentice on feluccia in the force unleashed xbox360 game

[Raganork8]

Didn't she die in ROTS?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

She did... but she came back in the FU game.

[Raganork8]

Wait what?

She came back to life?

Is the continuity for ROTS ignored in the game?

Or is it cause Shaak Ti died in a deleted scene and it doesn't count?

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Actually, I am not quite sure... Nut I know that she didn't die in Episode 3 but escaped the Order 66.

[JediBendu]

Wait what?

She came back to life?

Is the continuity for ROTS ignored in the game?

Or is it cause Shaak Ti died in a deleted scene and it doesn't count?

even tho it's a deleted scene, we have to assume she died coz she was definitely taken prisoner with Palpatine from the end of the Clone Wars animated series - unless she somehow survived half the ship breaking off and plummetting through a low atmosphere burn?

[thepepgal]

even tho it's a deleted scene, we have to assume she died coz she was definitely taken prisoner with Palpatine from the end of the Clone Wars animated series - unless she somehow survived half the ship breaking off and plummetting through a low atmosphere burn?


Actually the official site has her at the temple but presumed dead after Vader went through. The game shows she escaped the temple. It was mentioned that the deleted scene was disgarded from the movie and the storyline.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/index.html

[JediBendu]

Actually the official site has her at the temple but presumed dead after Vader went through. The game shows she escaped the temple. It was mentioned that the deleted scene was disgarded from the movie and the storyline.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/index.html

ah ok - so the continuity error comes from the animated series:

"...and Shaak Ti was bound and rendered helpless as Grievous escaped with the Chancellor as his prisoner. "

and

"Although her earlier death at Grievous' hands was completed and included on the DVD as a deleted scene, it should not be considered the canon version of her fate. This is because she is still visible later on in the movie as part of the Kashyyyk hologram. "

I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up in the TV live action series

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I could be wrong, as this is just from memory, but I thought that in Clone Wars Volume 2 Shaak Ti was indeed bound but disregarded by Grevious, once he had Palpatine. Other Jedi then come and free Shaak Ti who says something along the lines of 'I have failed'. So therefore it's fine that she returned to the Jedi Temple after that, whilst Obi-Wan & Anakin went to rescue the Chancellor.

JB, that is a very good point about the Shaak Ti 'death' scene. Since she was seen after that, then, to me, that proves she definitely didn't die. In the novelisation of ROTS she is in the temple when Anakin leaves to go and see what is happening between Palps and the Jedi Masters sent to arrest him.

[JediBendu]

I could be wrong, as this is just from memory, but I thought that in Clone Wars Volume 2 Shaak Ti was indeed bound but disregarded by Grevious, once he had Palpatine. Other Jedi then come and free Shaak Ti who says something along the lines of 'I have failed'. So therefore it's fine that she returned to the Jedi Temple after that, whilst Obi-Wan & Anakin went to rescue the Chancellor.

JB, that is a very good point about the Shaak Ti 'death' scene. Since she was seen after that, then, to me, that proves she definitely didn't die. In the novelisation of ROTS she is in the temple when Anakin leaves to go and see what is happening between Palps and the Jedi Masters sent to arrest him.

I can't remember where she was in the Kashyyk scene where she appears as a hologram??

It's such a shame she didn't feature more prominently in the final cut - I remember loving Orli Shoshan being made up into Shaak Ti in front of the web cam

Edit: jeez louise :w00t:

http://www.orlishoshan.com/?page_id=4

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I can't remember off the top of my head either, I'll have to watch again! :w00t:

OMG, wow that pic is awesome! :love:

[MXCABRINI]

Another thing from wikipedia:

In Lego Star Wars: The Video Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars:_The_Video_Game), Shaak Ti is shown being decapitated by Darth Vader in the Jedi Temple, although these events are not considered canon.

I don't remember that part of the game, but if that's true, seems like the original plan was for her to be killed by Vader.

[JediBendu]

OMG, wow that pic is awesome! :love:

indeed - her site is great! I love:

Orli’s measurements are as follows:
Height- 5′7″ Bust 34B, Waist 24.5″,Hips 34.5″
Dress 8,Shoe 6.5, Hair- DK Brown, Eyes Brown

:laughing:

Another thing from wikipedia:

In Lego Star Wars: The Video Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars:_The_Video_Game), Shaak Ti is shown being decapitated by Darth Vader in the Jedi Temple, although these events are not considered canon.

I don't remember that part of the game, but if that's true, seems like the original plan was for her to be killed by Vader.

mmm what's more cannon - Lego Star Wars game or a deleted scene :p

[thepepgal]

mmm what's more cannon - Lego Star Wars game or a deleted scene :p

Neither since the official site states canon by LFL and she is only presumed dead from being at the temple. With her now featuring prominently in the new game greatly publicised by the OS, it must be considered canon. She wasn't used as publicity for the Lego game so the creators must have used the info of a presumed death and shot a scene for it to entertain a gamer with many options.

It appears Shaak Ti has more lives than a cat and her death no matter how many times shot is greatly exaggerated.

[Orandhite]

Maybe Shaak Ti was actually Sifa Dias and ordered a load of clones of herself as well... :scratchchin:

[Raganork8]

Grevious Left her behind; I always assumed that she then went on to fight in the end of the war and was killed.


Somewhere I remember seeing her killed in the temple; but, then in the movie she's killed on the Invisible Hand; but, that was deleted so I assume the continuity of that scene was taken out of the final continuity; for the people who saw her die in the temple or heard of it; where does that come from? The Game?

[kopernikuz]

A deleted scene can't really be considered "in continuity"... as it may have been removed for any number of reasons. And there are MANY discrepancies between the Lego game and the movies, because it's more parody than anything. I'd think we were really stretching if we started looking at the Lego games as any kind of authority, lol.

The recent Insider confirms she is alive and well and on the council in that hologram when Yoda is talking to them from Kashyyyk. It certainly seemed she was doomed in the Clone Wars cartoon, but only speculation actually dooms her. It's safe to assume GG ignored her once he'd gotten his real prize.

[JediBendu]

Neither since the official site states canon by LFL and she is only presumed dead from being at the temple. With her now featuring prominently in the new game greatly publicised by the OS, it must be considered canon. She wasn't used as publicity for the Lego game so the creators must have used the info of a presumed death and shot a scene for it to entertain a gamer with many options.

It appears Shaak Ti has more lives than a cat and her death no matter how many times shot is greatly exaggerated.

I don't think her appearing in a computer game (lego or otherwise) qualifies as cannon??

Quinlan Voss is another character that was killed in a scene never shot, but resurfaced in comics.

...ok another pic

[thepepgal]

I don't think her appearing in a computer game (lego or otherwise) qualifies as cannon??

Quinlan Voss is another character that was killed in a scene never shot, but resurfaced in comics.

...ok another pic

And what the OS, they are the ones who are using her image for the Force Unleashed so basically saying she did live. They make the call on what is true and therefore canon.

GL had mentioned that the deleted scene was no longer true.

[kopernikuz]

I'm not sure why he has to state that deleted scenes aren't true. If they're not in the movie, then all bets are off. :P The reasons for removal could be time, wrong look or feel, pacing, or... of all things... the decision NOT to go a certain direction. But as far as I'm concerned, if it ain't in the can, it ain't in the canon. ;) Unless of course the OS Databank or OS approved EU support it somehow.

[thepepgal]

I'm not sure why he has to state that deleted scenes aren't true. If they're not in the movie, then all bets are off. :P The reasons for removal could be time, wrong look or feel, pacing, or... of all things... the decision NOT to go a certain direction. But as far as I'm concerned, if it ain't in the can, it ain't in the canon. ;) Unless of course the OS Databank or OS approved EU support it somehow.


He obviously decided it wasn't a fitting death for Shaak Ti and that she deserved better. Maybe he developed a soft spot so it became hard to have her stabbed from behind.

So while it is in the can, he threw it on the floor not including it in the film. He picked it up again to show us what may have been. Since the timeline of the movie shows she is alive by attending the Jedi Council meeting with us seeing on hologram on Kashyyyk, the scene is a nice to have.

[kopernikuz]

Sorry, my phrasing might have been confusing because "in the can" can have two meanings really... one means "finished recording" and the other refers to the can that films are shipped in for release, indicating the film is completed and ready to watch. Obviously I'm referring to the completed film being "in the can", not film that is not used. But I can see why that wasn't clear.

And I agree he probably thought it wasn't a fitting end, and removed it. My point is that regardless of his reasoning, if it's not in the final film, it's not canon unless the OS databank or approved EU confirm it as well. A deleted scene is just that... a deleted scene... fun trivia only.

[Raganork8]

But can the same be said for the Deleted Scene in AOTC of the trail?

Did it not happen? Or was it unnecessary to see?

Or for Yoda Landing on Dagohbah?

Because it's deleted doesn't mean it does not happen; rather we don't need to see it happen.


Keep in mind I don't believe her death to GG actual happened either; but, I am playing Devil's Advocate.

[kopernikuz]

But you're only confirming my point... those items have been confirmed by the OS databank, EU or subsequent films ESB, anyone?... we know Yoda went to Dagobah, lol. I don't know what "trail" they went on at the end of AOTC, but chances are if it's confirmed in a later film or the OS, then it's canon.. just as I said in my post. Shaak Ti is killed in a deleted scene, and the OS and subsequent films show that it's not the case. In those situations (Yoda landing on Dagobah) the point is made in subsequent films, therefore making the event canon... not the deleted scene itself. Get my meaning?

[thepepgal]

Sorry, my phrasing might have been confusing because "in the can" can have two meanings really... one means "finished recording" and the other refers to the can that films are shipped in for release, indicating the film is completed and ready to watch. Obviously I'm referring to the completed film being "in the can", not film that is not used. But I can see why that wasn't clear.

And I agree he probably thought it wasn't a fitting end, and removed it. My point is that regardless of his reasoning, if it's not in the final film, it's not canon unless the OS databank or approved EU confirm it as well. A deleted scene is just that... a deleted scene... fun trivia only.

That's ok. I always think of the first meaning and while not in the film itself the scene ended up on the dvd.

The title of deleted scene could have given it substance to being true as it was shot by the creator of the universe and that is why GL stated it was no longer part of the story at all so people wouldn't believe this was the fate of Shaak Ti.

Remember George had used other deleted scenes for the movies to show what happened without breaking up the flow of the story (Like: ROTS: the senators' meetings to show the creation of the Rebellion; AOTC: Padme's family to show her upbringing and her backstory).