Padme and Anakin: Meant to be or not??

[melissa_ladyvader]

this is from my point of view

in episode 2 when anakin was talking to padme about marrying her
she told him that she couldnt because she was a senator and he was studying to be a jedi...but before there execution in the genoisis arena
she finally confessed to him that she loved him.......then they get married

but do u really think she married him because she loved him the same way he loved her??

in episode 3, you can see that they are different with each other.....
like for instance when padme went to go see anakin on mustafar and anakin was telling her that "we dont have 2 run away anymore, im more powerful than the chancellor i, i can over throw him"

thats when i realized that she didnt love him...because of how she re-acted to him.......this is my point of view.....that padme never loved anakin the way he loved her.......when anakin became darth vader you obviously saw that his anger grew twice as much.........

what do u people think??..........

[Javen]

I believe she married for two reasons.

1. She was about to die with him.

2. She felt sorry for him and his life. He had such problems even though she knew this, but it's almost like out of pity she married him. Sometimes people get married because one tries to chnage the other. And that is a strange reaosn.

[Fish1941]

Or how about . . . they married each other, because they were in love with each other?

Why is it that when a relationship has serious problems in a fictional story, many fans jump to the conclusion that one or the other were not in love with the other and got married for reasons other than love? Is this some way of explaining the lack of an "ideal" relationship?

[Kam Solusar]

She loved him. Whether she grew to love him, or loved him and fought it doesn't really matter. She loved him.

Her reaction to his suggestion that he could overthrow Palpatine and they could rule the galaxy together was because it was a slap in her face. He knows darn well what her political philosophy is, and dictatorships of any kind are not her philosophy. He might as well have told her he had an affair considering her political convictions. Not to mention the fact that this seals the info that Obi-Wan gave her about his actions. Her husband had just murdered many people, including many basically defenseless children. How would YOU react?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I believe they loved each other. But I do believe that Anakin's love for Padme was stronger than her love, you can see this by the lengths he went to. She would not stay with him once he had become someone different, he would have stayed with her whatever she had done as 'love had blinded him'.

I feel that Padme loved Anakin almost as she felt sorry for the way his life had been and also the fact that he was very special in terms of his abilities. It was almost like she wanted to mother him rather than be his lover.

[Fish1941]

I believe they loved each other. But I do believe that Anakin's love for Padme was stronger than her love, you can see this by the lengths he went to. She would not stay with him once he had become someone different, he would have stayed with her whatever she had done as 'love had blinded him'.

I believe that love had blinded her, as well. Her refusal to accept Anakin's proposal to tell the truth about their marriage pretty much hinted this to me.

As for Anakin loving her more than she loved him . . . I don't think I agree. Especially since she tried to convince Obi-Wan to her last breath that there was still good within Anakin.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

As for Anakin loving her more than she loved him . . . I don't think I agree. Especially since she tried to convince Obi-Wan to her last breath that there was still good within Anakin.

My take on that scene, so it is just an opinion, is that she was trying to convince herself, as she just didn't want to believe what Obi-Wan had told her. Additionally, when Obi-Wan and Anakin were following Dooku in AOTC and Padme fell into the sand, Anakin was going to go after her, until he admitted to Obi-Wan that he knew that Padme would do her duty. Funny, in a way, as the Jedi were meant to be selfless, yet perhaps in this 'quality' Padme was stronger than Anakin.

[Fish1941]

My take on that scene, so it is just an opinion, is that she was trying to convince herself, as she just didn't want to believe what Obi-Wan had told her. Additionally, when Obi-Wan and Anakin were following Dooku in AOTC and Padme fell into the sand, Anakin was going to go after her, until he admitted to Obi-Wan that he knew that Padme would do her duty. Funny, in a way, as the Jedi were meant to be selfless, yet perhaps in this 'quality' Padme was stronger than Anakin.


As ROTJ proved, Padme was right. There was still good in Anakin. Obi-Wan simply did not want to believe it, because his views on morality were probably a little more . . . dogmatic than Padme's.

It's strange that you point out that Padme was more duty-bound than Anakin, yet she was the one who wanted to continue the deception about their marriage at the beginning of ROTS. I wonder why people tend to ignore this.

I don't consider one character more moral or "good" than the other. I think that all are a mixture of both good and evil. Anakin was confronted with a situation that led him to make his choices. It's easy to label him evil or morally inferior to Padme or Obi-Wan. But what if those two found themselves in situations in which they made choices that could lead them to a path to evil. It could have so easily happen to either one of them. And situations like Padme's reluctance to tell the truth about her marriage, Obi-Wan's outbreaks of rage during his fight with Maul and his decision to leave Anakin slowly burning to death on Mustafar convinces me that it can.

[AnaSkywalker]

Javen-what you said about pity reminds me of Othello by William Shakespeare, how perhaps Desdemona married Othello out of pity and their relationship didn't really work out. He ended up murdering her because he suspected her of cheating...similar to episode 3, isn't it? I prefer to think that they married because they loved each other, simply because then it becomes such a 'nice story' but if you think about it, what did padme really see in anakin?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

As ROTJ proved, Padme was right. There was still good in Anakin. Obi-Wan simply did not want to believe it, because his views on morality were probably a little more . . . dogmatic than Padme's.

It's strange that you point out that Padme was more duty-bound than Anakin, yet she was the one who wanted to continue the deception about their marriage at the beginning of ROTS. I wonder why people tend to ignore this.

I don't consider one character more moral or "good" than the other. I think that all are a mixture of both good and evil. Anakin was confronted with a situation that led him to make his choices. It's easy to label him evil or morally inferior to Padme or Obi-Wan. But what if those two found themselves in situations in which they made choices that could lead them to a path to evil. It could have so easily happen to either one of them. And situations like Padme's reluctance to tell the truth about her marriage, Obi-Wan's outbreaks of rage during his fight with Maul and his decision to leave Anakin slowly burning to death on Mustafar convinces me that it can.

Good points Fish. I tend to look at things in black and white, not sure why, it's just the way I've always been. Of course there are always shades of grey as you pointed out in your final paragraph.

I think Padme was scared to have anyone know that they were married, she realised they had 'done wrong' (I don't necessarily it was wrong).

I think Anakin was just so suscepitble to Sidious' influence as he had always missed a parental figure so much and with what happened to him regarding his mother just played even more into his evil hands. He ended up so confused as to what was wrong and what was right, perhaps Padme and Obi-Wan would have been less confused as we are not told that anything too tragic has happened to them in the past. Who knows? :bye:

[Fish1941]

I prefer to think that they married because they loved each other, simply because then it becomes such a 'nice story' but if you think about it, what did padme really see in anakin?


I think that you're projecting your own views about Anakin into Padme's character. What you might see in an individual, another person might see something else. Does Anakin have to be some near perfect character to be worthy of Padme? That's like asking what did Leia really see in Han.


He ended up so confused as to what was wrong and what was right, perhaps Padme and Obi-Wan would have been less confused as we are not told that anything too tragic has happened to them in the past. Who knows?

If I have to be honest, I saw the same or similar confusion in the other major characters. Having parental guidance does not gurantee that an individual will lead a trouble-free life.

[melissa_ladyvader]

okay relax...it was just my opinion

[Konig15]

Anakin was an unstable little psychopath, and nothing in the Jedi playbook could deal with that. He was going to blow up sometime, and blow BIG. I still can't beleive that Padme would marry the guy. Like I could see her marrying Mace and espeically Obi-Wan, but I'm not the first person to say if Padme was real, she would RUN RUN RUN away.

Marrying Anakin was STUPID. But Nabooans, including Palpatine are never depicted as having a lick of sense when it comes down to it.

[AnaSkywalker]

actually i can see wuite well what leia saw in han. but i'm not saying anakin was all bad, and of course there are good things about him, but the way he acts sometimes makes you wonder.

[melissa_ladyvader]

anakin skywalker "darth vader"
is the hottest man in the star wars universe
he is bad because hes sexy
hes sexy because hes bad

i would have a husband like that.....
no wonder leia loved han solo because he was bad in his own way
just like anakin

[Jedi Master Harrison]

^ yes, I can see why any woman would want a husband who would force-choke them! :lol: :nahnah:

[Sarah-Leia]

anakin skywalker "darth vader"
is the hottest man in the star wars universe
he is bad because hes sexy
hes sexy because hes bad

i would have a husband like that.....
no wonder leia loved han solo because he was bad in his own way
just like anakin

Yes, every girl prefers the bad boys. Except Hannah. Anyway, I think they were meant to be, not in the sense that they were perfect for each other, but that their marriage would cause the Force to be put back into balance because of the, ahem, product of their marriage, Luke. It was all orchestrated by the Force...:wink:

Oh man, on Mustafar, I can definitely see why Anakin is the hottest man in the Star Wars universe. Lava. Ouch. But in the other sense of hot, I can't say I agree with you. :ohwell:

And, JMH, no, Padme would want Anakin to Force-choke any annoying men who were trying to get it on with her...
And Leia? She'd want her man to blast 'em! :lol:

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I was just pointing out that women always love the bad boy then complain when they get treated badly by them! :scratchchin: :banghead: Padme can have no complaints, she knew the type of guy he was after he killed all the Sand People. :wink:

[AnaSkywalker]

yeah, i seem to have a thing for hot guys who are evil and powerful or just bad boys. And did anakin really treat padme badly? except for the ep. 3 strangling scene. yes, i would like to have ep. 3 before he's evil anakin but not the ep. 2 whiny ugly anakin. And if he wasn't using the force and being a pain I'd just slap him.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Then you'd get locked up for actual bodily harm! :wink: :nahnah: