Easter Eggs

[Dark Helmet]

Use this thread to post Easter Eggs you have found while viewing Attack of the Clones. *Those of you who like to party hard, please refrain from posting because its probably the alcohol and drugs talking * style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Dark Helmet]

1. A Jedi that looks like Howard the Duck - When Obi-Wan Kenobi exits the Jedi Archives and heads towards Yoda, you'll see him in front of the steps. You'll also see him in the arena battle when all the Jedi are igniting their blades.

2. Katie Lucas as a pink Twi'lek in the Outlander Club scene.
She watches Anakin walk by after he and Obi-Wan Kenobi split up. Also visable are Ahmed Best are Anthony Daniels.

3. Millennium Falcon type freighter (YT100?) parked on Naboo when Anakin and Padme's ship is descending into the spaceport.

4. In the bar where Obi-Wan catches the assasin... very quick glimpse of Anthony daniels turning around to see what is going on

5. One of the Naboo cows that Anakin rides in AOTC is somewhere in the Geonosis asteroid sequence

[NelsonCoressel]

I'm not sure, but I think the little Jedi kid who guesses that "Obi-Wan's missing planet" was erased from the Jedi archives is played by GL's son.


I haven't found them yet, but somewhere during the Coruscant chase scene there are supposed to be one or two of the Police "Spinner" cars from Bladerunner flying around, as well as a couple of TIE Fighters and X-Wings. Finding these will probably be as hard as finding the potato in ESB.

[Tovor]

I noticed an egg that was not hidden but obvious...to anyone who saw and remembers the James Bond film The Man With the Golden Gun well enough. In the triva thread I had asked what was the connection between Roger Moore and Ewan McGregor, and the answer was that both played characters who dueled Christopher Lee. Roger Moore as James Bond vs. Lee as Fransisco Scaramanga, and Obi vs. Dooku. That was not the easter egg, this is:
In The Man with the Golden Gun, Scaramanga escaped capture in the middle of the film by attatching wings onto the sides of his car, with a top-mounted propellor, and flying away as Bond fired at him from the ground. He sat very calmly looking straight ahead, while his servant piloted the car-plane.

Remember when Dooku escaped from Yoda and the clone soldiers, and Padme and the clones fired at his departing craft? He sat there calmly looking ahead while his servant droid piloted the craft. That was the easter egg, a homage to Scaramanga's escape.

[Tovor]

Since Nelson mentioned the scene with the Jedi children, Yoda asked "Liam" to dim the lights for the star chart hologram. Maybe its coincidence, but I thought it was a nod back to Liam Neeson.

[Rozi-Wan Kenobi]

is it just me?

i thought i saw the Darth Vader shadow, reminiscent of the Ep I teaser poster....just before Anakin leaves on the speeder bike to find his mother, he hugs padme, but we see their shadows on the hovel. I could hv sworn Anakin's shadow looks a bit like the Vader outline, albeit thinner *i guess*

[Shoma Barad]

TOTALLY... the shadow is soooo Vader... it's a little too cool to be coincidence.

Maybe a bit of foreshadowing? Perhaps this is how Padme dies, but we only see the sillouhette... who knows... but it was cool.

Darn it... I saw the film again last night, but i cant think of anything to add now!!!

~~Shoma

[travelerb]

When Obi is talking to Dexter in the diner, I swear Sebulba gets up from a booth behind Obi, and walks out of the restaurant. This had to be on purpose, the camera is on Obi until Sebulba walks by, then it cuts to Dexter and you see Sebulba walk out of the diner behind him. Anyone else catch this?

[Tovor]

That wasn't Sebulba, or even a Dug for that matter. Sebulba walked on his hands with his feet out in front of him. That creature was on its hind legs with his arms together in front of his chest, not like a Dug's who's legs start from behind the walking arms and extend past them.


Easter Eggs:
C3PO on the Lars homestead, working on a piece of equipment when Anakin and Padme arrived. I'll wager a non-monetary bet that he was working on a vaporator, since he does say later in ANH,
"My 1st job was programming binary load-lifters, very similar to your vaporators in most respects."

How would he know what Owen's vaporators looked like or worked, if he had not had experience on them himself?

At Shmi's funeral, 3PO:
"He says he is carrying a message from an Obi-Wan Kenobi. Do you know what he's talking about?" (Lars garage, ANH)

[Kambei Koyanagi]

OK, did anyone catch Qui-Gons Voice screaming,

"Anakin! Anakin!"

Right after the Anakin kills the Tuskcan, and the fade away to Yoda meditating, then yoda says "pain, great pain, young Skywalker is in great Pain"

I have seen it 5 times since thursday, and didnt noice till the third time I saw it. It is with out a doubt Qui-gons Voice. Check it out next time.

Also I dont know if I would consider it an Easter Egg, but when Anakin is kneeling on his mothers grave, and say.

"I failed, I will never fail again"

Nice, the referance to saving Luke in the end.

[NelsonCoressel]

Nice observation, Kambei Koyanagi. I think the "Anakin!" is actually sampled from Liam Neeson saying that in TPM. But the "NOOOOOO" is somebody else's voice.

Also, notice that Yoda has tears in his eyes?

[Jenad_JK]

It is entirely possible that George Lucas is in the Senate!

Just after Palpatine accepts the power given to him by Jar Jar the camera pans down to look at some of the senators. In one of the groups there appears to be a grey-haired man that bears a certain resembelance to George.

I'm not sure on this one as I've only seen it once so far...but if it is...well it's one cool Easter Egg. And I'll be amazed I caught it!

[sanbonma]

For Jenad_JK

I also think I saw Lucas in the senate, an older man
sitting down in a black/dark outfit with grey hair,
above the rodian pod. It could be an old woman though?

Also, for 'vader' I call the 'howard the duck' jedi
'duckman'.

-Sanbonma

[sanbonma]

After seeing episode II 12 times between 5/16/02-5/19/02,
I spotted a coca-cola can in the 'first kiss scene' where Anakin and Padme kiss.
This is best seen on a clean print of the film, and can clearly be seen at
digital screenings (such as the Grauman's Chinese theatre and the digital theatre
at Irvine Spectrum 21). At Newport 6 this was very difficult to see because the
print of the film wasn't great. In this scene, Anakin and Padme get off the boat and walk to
a stone fence/railing overlooking the water. As they are walking, look at the ground
near the fence and try to spot a cylindrical object on the ground near the fence.
This will train your eye to spot the cola can when it's clearly visible later
in the scene. After Anakin and Padme kiss, she stops the kiss, and then the
camera pans back so you can see their backs and entire bodies. This shot is quite
brief so you have to pay close attention. Look to the left of Anakin's feet. You'll
see a red can with silver top and if you look closely, you can make out the
silver tab/ring that you normally open to enjoy a refreshing coca cola.
Sanbonma

[Darth Marshall]

Thought this might be of interest.

While watching AOTC last night I noticed that Jango Fett bangs his head while entering the Slave 1 after his fight with ObiWan.

If all the clones and based on him and they will eventually become the Stormtroopers(??), then does this unfortunate mishap mean a fault in the genetic make up of the 'clones'???

It adds a new dimension to the clumsey stormtrooper that bangs his head on the door in ANH!!!!

Awesome fighting machines but incredably clumsey????

[Jedi_Zachaa]

Wow, I noticed most of the things mentioned here... except the coke can!! Jeez is that what happens when you spend three days watching Star Wars!!!!

I didn't notice Lucas, either.

I've seen it three times but I can't wait to go back and see it again to catch all this stuff!!!

[Carpathia]

Did anyone notice the floor in the hanger during the Yoda/Dooku fight? The patern looks just like the booby trapped floor in the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indy is going after the idol.

[Jedi Master Pohatu]

You forgot about homer! He was very easy to spot. I also saw the Correlian (M-Falcons) and HtD Jedi, but he was hard to see. Oh yeah, Homer is in the only Clone-Ship that faces forward.

[Kafer]

Okay, I saw the small cylandar like object. It could be a coke can. But, I don't know for sure.

[Clara]

I would just like to say, that early this evening I was in the offical site, and read that the bit that sounds like Liam crying out 'Anakin' is in fact Liam. It was recorded during the making of Episode 1 to be used in Episode 2.

[Rozi-Wan Kenobi]

Yea i saw how Jango got hit by the door as he enters the ship...i tot that was an accident on the actor's part didnt think there was any significance to it..gosh, you just learn something new everyday! *gush gush*

Hands up, all those who think Lil' Boba Fett is a cutie!! :tounge:

[Tovor]

Somebody mentioned seeing Darth Vader's shadow in place of Anakin's as he hugged Padme, and I have a re-used response to that:


(I wrote this in another thread and did not want to rewrite it so I copied and pasted. Sorry for the troll...)

When I saw AOTC again I watched for that carefully and I will tell you without a doubt it is not the shadow of Vader. The part of shadow sticking out the back of his head like Vader's helmet, is his ponytale and padawan braid.

However, a couple of seconds later, as he strode toward the speeder bike with his dark cape flowing behind him onto the ground, he looked exactly like Vader from the shoulders down walking away from camera in the old trilogy. Same style of cape, same fit across his back (unlike the way the Jedi robes fit their backs), same angle forward of his body, same stride. His body as it walked to the speeder bike and got on, was the future Darth Vader personified.

[Deak_Starkiller]

I agree completely with Tovor. It is pretty clear that the shadow is an unaltered Hayden. I was watching very closely, and you can clearly see his padawan ponytail.

Although, it was interesting that the scene was filmed that way. I can't understand why, other than to be "artsy", but it wasn't very GL. That being said, I understand the natural reaction to think that it was Vader's shadow. As much as I wish it was, I just don't see it.

Throughout the whole movie, I noticed Anakin's robe though. Definitely reminiscent of Vader in the OT. Especially in the shadow scene. Very cool. I always liked how Vader's robes flowed like that.

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by Darth Marshall@May 20 2002 - 04:42

:::While watching AOTC last night I noticed that Jango Fett bangs his head while entering the Slave 1 after his fight with ObiWan.

:::If all the clones and based on him and they will eventually become the Stormtroopers(??), then does this unfortunate mishap mean a fault in the genetic make up of the 'clones'

Probably not, but it DOES help to explain the "signature" dent in BOBA'S helmet in the OT. If you watch JANGO carefully in the arena battle, you can see it there, right where it should be, all those years ago. :smile:

[Nathan Butler]

Except that Jango's armor is NOT the armor that Boba ends up wearing. According to LFL, particularly LucasBooks, he ends up wearing Jaster Mereel's. That could've been something that just slipped past, but chances are that LFL would not have been allowed to let something like that through if Lucas were specifically intending the armor to be an immediate hand-me-down.

[Obi-Wandrius-Kenobi]

I've read in Theforce.net that in the scene of the Senate in the trailer, you can see Lucas. Do you know if it is truth?...i've watch the trailer but i cant find him. ???

[Obi-Wan]

I heard Qui-Gon's voice the first time I saw it. I heard in Episode III that Qui-Gon will come back and talk to Obi-Wan.

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by NathanButlerSWT@May 22 2002 - 10:36
Except that Jango's armor is NOT the armor that Boba ends up wearing. *According to LFL, particularly LucasBooks, he ends up wearing Jaster Mereel's. *That could've been something that just slipped past, but chances are that LFL would not have been allowed to let something like that through if Lucas were specifically intending the armor to be an immediate hand-me-down.
I have heard that everything we thought we thought knew about Boba Fett's origin is WRONG.

But you may be right; The dent on Jango's helmet in AOTC actually IS in a slightly different location than the dent on Boba's in the OT.

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by Obi-Wandrius-Kenobi@May 22 2002 - 12:47
I've read in Theforce.net that in the scene of the Senate in the trailer, you can see Lucas. Do you know if it is truth?...i've watch the trailer but i cant find him. ???
Here's the link to the pic:

http://theforce.net/episode2/newspics/gl_cameo.jpg

[Senator Theant]

Oh thats right. .. I didnt mention it at all in the other thread concering things weve seen but I remembered while browsing through your guys'. In the COruscant chase, I think its when Anakin and Obi dive straight down in pursuit of Zam. At the very bottom left hand corner of the screen, you can make out the shape of either two droid fighter or two TIE fighters. IT was that brief.

[Handothrawn]

Did any one notice that when Anakin jumps out of the hotrod and he's falling you can see a Z-95 go by?

[Kit Fisto]

Hey All.

First of all, I'd just like to add that Lucas never pays much attention to the Expanded Universe and really doesn't care if he thinks up something that ruins good stories. Boba Fett's history is a perfect example of this (Although I admit I love what he came up with) and another example is the history of the Death Star.

The Death Star plans' appearence on Geonosis totally goes against the stories of Tarkin and Bevil Lemisek cooking them up. Oh-Well. (I just hope that if the Death Star appears in Episode III, it is left that the Imperials at least build it themselves, so as not to mess up even more good stories.)

Speaking of going against stories, I'm praying that Lucas doesn't decide to have the Clone Troopers evolve into Stormtroopers. To imply or show that the Stormtroopers were clones all along completely wrecks an incredible amount of known Star Wars Lore about the Imperial Academys, Han's history, Bigg's and Wedge's history, as well as just about any notion of the Imperial Army that has been built up in books. It also ruins the notion presented in Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy that Clones were all but extinct before Thrawn got ahold of them.

Lucas has always showed a disregard for the Expanded Universe; I just hope he doesn't give it's fans and all the authors who have worked so hard the ultimate slap in the face by making the Stormtroopers to be Clones all along. Even the original trilogy is marred by this concept...

Now what was the actual topic of this forum... oh yeah, hidden stuff.

Okay, I'd love someone to help me confirm this but I'd be money that when the Reek comes into the arena from that tunnel, the sound effects heard from the cheering crowd are none other than the chants of the little blue aliens in Galaxy Quest. In GQ, the aliens chant "Gridnak! ...Gridnak! ...Gridnak!" at Tim Allen in the arena hoping the Rock monster will come out...

Listen carefully on Geonosis and their chant can be heard very clear coming from the Geonosian audience as the Reek emerges.

Again, let me know if this can be confirmed somehow!

[Mara1Jade]

Now, just because the stormtroopers MIGHT be clones at SOME POINT does NOT mean that by the time of ANH they are STILL clones.

[Luthien]

True, Mara. They may have had all stormtroopers have been clones at one point, but then have had the clones slowly replaced by normal people, for whatever reason. Might work.

As for Boba's history, I am GLAD the Jaster Meerel story was ignored by Lucas, since I am one of those who hates Jaster Meerel with passion. I actually prefer the story of Boba shown in Episode II. I know not everyone agrees with me, though.

Lucas's making Boba a clone even invalidated my RPing character's background history, but the funny part is, I am not mad about that, I can always work out something else.

[Seanakin]

Kit, the cynic in me says they can always haul in some kind of Jocasta Nu character (like the one making up answers to questions on TOS) to prove, in some backwards-scientific way, that GL was right along.

Or maybe I give them too much credit, they might just glibly say "Oh yeah, George ALWAYS meant to do it that way."

And who's the Reek, the backwards triceratoptic beast?

[Kit Fisto]

Yeah, the Reek is the beast that Anakin jumped on and that got shot in the face by Jango.

Also, I agree I was never very fond of the Jaster Meerel stuff... just to dull for such a cool-looking character! The clone theory is much more interesting.

I hope if he has stormtroopers turn out to be clones it does fade away like Mara suggested.

But, to me, the change to stormtroopers as oppossed to clonetroopers seems like it should take place at the same time that the Imperial academy is opened.

The way I'd like to see it (but most likely won't!) would be to have Palpatine declare his empire right near the beginning of EpIII with Anakin at his side (since the two have evidently been conspiring as shown in the brief seen with them in epII). This would put Anakin in bad standing with the Jedi and maybe the Jedi would get to work shutting down the cloning facilities. *Palpatine could make the Jedi look evil to the public and, with their support, start the Imperial Academy. Meanwhile Padme, seeing what Anakin has become (the righthand man of a dictator who is anti-jedi) runs off and hides under the protection of Yoda and company. This ticks Anakin off to no end, and at this height of his anger Palpatine might choose to show him his Sidious identity... and we know the rest. That's my episode III in a nutshell, but whatever George comes up with will be good, I'm sure.

I just hope he doesn't do anything to drastically different from what people are expecting. This is the episode that has to do all the things we've been waiting for. I hope George goes up to the point where the jedi have to hide under different names since Obi-wan had been going by Ben since before Luke was born ("There's a name I haven't heard since oh before you were born" - epIV). *

And, of course, we'd all like to see Luke and Leia being given to their respective foster parents and Ben and Yoda go into hiding.

I really wonder what is going to happen to Padme. In ROJ, Leia says her mother died when she was very young. But if she remembers images, and feelings, will we see Padme die on screen? If she doesn't, I wonder what causes her to die...

Okay, that's enough off-topic speculation.

Did anyone else think they saw R5-D4 (the red astro droid that blew it's motivator to keep R2 and 3PO together in epIV) right after Padme and Anakin landed on Tatooine?

[technorat]

I am very dissapointed in all of you for not noticing the most obvious easter egg in the film - In the outlander the pod racing on the screen in the background is clearly taken from the lucas arts game star wars racer !!! how come i am the only one to notice this??? i have seen the film 3 times and i saw this the first time. As for whether the old man is lucas i think we'll have to wait 4 the dvd 2 be released so we can see in super slo mo!

May The Force Be With You

[Vyndim]

I did notice the Star Wars Pod racer being played in the outlander. I noticed it the first time I saw AOTC. I think that was one of the only "easter eggs" I saw the first time through. Still haven't seen that supposed "cow" in the asteroid scene between Jango and Obi-Wan.

[technorat]

I would like to make a reply to the coca-cola can in the first kiss scene- there was a photo shoot for the magazine vanity fair and in one of the photos you can clearly see a can in the area i have to check it but i am fairly sure this is a coke can

[Kit Fisto]

Yeah I saw the podracing first time too. Now you have to wonder when Lucas Arts is going to release weird little roller droid football!

I missed the Z-95, but I really hope you're right, Handothrawn! If so it's a nice nod toward the lore/books realm.


I'll bet that cow is going to be as hard to find as the potato in ESB! Although DVD will help immensely...

[moocat]

Ahh but Jaster Mareel does still exist in EU continuity!!

In "Jango Fett: Open Seasons" we learn that Jango and his family lived on Concord Dawn, and that his father was the Journyman Protecter there, a position he assumed when Jaster was exiled.

The Mercenary group known as the Mandalorians splintered giving rise to a splinter group called the "Death Watch". Lead by Vizsla the "Death Watch" orchestrated a coup against the true Madalorians lead by a reformed murder named Jaster Mareel. On Concord Dawn Jaster's alleged homeworld the Death Watch scattered the Madalorians and began hunting them.

Accused of helping the Mandalorians Jango's father and family are killed by Vizsla with only Jango escaping. Running into Jaster as he flees, Jango helps the mandalorians escape the trap. Jango helps Jaster and ultimatly kills Vizsla. Jaster then adopts Jango into the Mandalorians.

It is also revealed that Jango at the time of AoTC is the last of the Mandalorians, because they were wiped out by the Jedi in a raid on Galidran. He alone escaped.

Just a trivia note: Jaster Mareels armor looks very similar to Bobba Fetts in color.

So there ya go. Lots of fun EU revising by LucasBooks. It wasn't Bobba's origin we knew. It was Jangos.

Hope that long pointless post helps. Oh and go get Jango Fett: open seasons. Good story, and good art. Only on issue one of four.

[sifo-dyas]

Originally posted by Mara1Jade@May 27 2002 - 03:20
Now, just because the stormtroopers MIGHT be clones at SOME POINT does NOT mean that by the time of ANH they are STILL clones.
Going a little off-topic, but Jango Fett is on Kamino as his DNA is required "fresh" for every batch of clones. The Kaminoans give him accomodation for this purpose, presumably. Without Jango Fett, the next batch of clones are slightly "unpure", and will have some variety...
"we are about to proceed with the next batch of clones"

I found in the film there were too many subtle references to the later films "Anakin, you'll be the death of me".

[technorat]

In regard to the whole why is jango there thing in one of the aotc universe book things it says he trains them all in his combat tactics. This makes sense as to why he is payed a 'huge fee' style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Tovor]

Kit, the cynic in me says they can always haul in some kind of Jocasta Nu character (like the one making up answers to questions on TOS) to prove, in some backwards-scientific way, that GL was right along.
Or maybe I give them too much credit, they might just glibly say "Oh yeah, George ALWAYS meant to do it that way."


I've never read the books about Jaster Mareel, which I presumed after reading discussion about it on the old message board about 3 years ago, were about the story of how Boba Fett became who he was and why he hated the Jedi, because they failed to protect his family and people on Concord Dawn. *So those books said that Jaster Mareel became Boba Fett, and now AOTC invalidates that by making Boba a clone of Jango Fett. So what, big deal? *A new book can come out saying that Jaster Mareel became Jango Fett, who hated the Jedi for what happened on Concord Dawn, which was why he agreed to help Darth Tyrannus start a clone army to wipe out the Jedi. *So Boba, after seeing his father killed by a Jedi, grew up with the same hatred for Jedi, and took on his father's tactics and persona. *So a new book can say that Boba Fett continued the course of revenge that his father Jango/Jaster Mareel began, and that is why his records say that he was Jaster Mareel. *He followed in his father's footsteps, and was credited with his father's original name. *So there. *Problem solved.=)


**Edited at 915am:** I hadn't read your above post till now, Moocat, and I realize that you already reported on the story which explains the paradox, so my idea is in a way already done by another. My bad, or rather, my too slow.**

[Luthien]

Really, Moocat? So he still exists...as long as Jaster Meerel is not Boba Fett...*spits* I just hate that guy. And I am glad to hear that he is portrayed as a traitor and a bad, nasty piece of carp.

[annie]

About the stormtroopers in ANH being clones from Fett. I'm not sure that they are, or maybe just the one that bumps his head is....

In Episode 2, during the clone fight scene - those stormtroopers can SHOOT! But during Episodes 4 - 6, they can't hit the side of a Jawa transport, much less precision. It has been noted that Princess Leia could shoot much better than the stormtroopers.

It *could* be that there was a limited number of the clones left by the time that ANH takes place (eighteen some years after Padme has the twins - assuming during or after Episode 3). They are the ones that could actually shoot precisely. When the Jawa transport is found gutted and burned, Obi Wan comments that Imperial stormtroopers are the only ones that precise. But, he has been stuck on Tatooine for the past 18 years and may not know that stormtroopers are no longer clones, but have been replaced by non-clone conscripts.

It's just a thought. Just my musings......

[Luthien]

That is an idea. It does make sense. Clones die, and have to be replaced. Maybe after a while, they started conscripting regular people into the stormtroopers, because they couldn't make more clones...

[UnOrthOdOx]

For those of you concerned with there being an academy, fear not. It was mentioned in ANH, Luke complaining about one more year, and entering the academy. Also, if you get a copy of the Original Radio Broadcast for ANH, it goes into more depth, with Luke playing a recruitment tape from the Academy. So there is definately a need for conscripts at some point. It would seem from Lukes actions that it is something that people desire as well.

[Kit Fisto]

Yeah, I'm aware of the academy being mentioned in ANH, but isn't it just possible that lucas might go back and actually delete lines that argue with the vision he NOW has, opposed to the one he had then....

I REALLY hope he doesn't touch the movies in anyway that changes them... only enhances them... but knowing the command he has, I wouldn't put it past him to delete choice parts saying that they were servicable to the temporary fullfillment of his vision or some nonsense like that.

But, I hope you're right and that he realizes how much people would hate him if he nixed the academy... or harmed the original films...

[annie]

But the academy that Luke is talking about is starfighter pilot academy.....not and infantry stormtrooper training academy. It's *possible* that only stormtroopers were cloned, but that doesn't really listen because Fett could also pilot space craft...or had the capacity for being a good fighter pilot. Also....why just clone for ground troops? You would need people to crew the ships that would transport the troops...and air/space support for the ground troops.

But Episode II doesn't really talk about those. But I've only seen it once and can't remember what was being said when that creature (for lack of knowing the names of the various E3 creatures at this point) was describing the "creation" of the clones during Obi Wan's tour.

[Lord_Floyd]

Anyone notice the red imperial gaurds in papatines office, the same ones in ROTJ.

The original Uncle Owen from E-IV was Owens Dad/Shmi's husband in E-II.

[Kit Fisto]

You mean the actor? Really? I hadn't heard that.....

[mace]

Yeah, I also thought the actor playing Cliegg Lars in AOTC looked like the same guy who played Owen in ANH, but it turns out I was wrong. According to IMDB, Cliegg Lars was played by Jack Thompson in AOTC, and Uncle Owen was played by Phil Brown in ANH.

As for the stormtroopers being clones, I think they are--or at least some of them are. If GL really did plan that all along, I think it's pretty cool--that could be why all the stormtroopers seem to look and sound alike in the OT. I assumed the "academy" mentioned in the OT was only for officers in the Imperial Army/Navy, not stormtroopers--just like the US military academies are only for the officers. So the officers in the Empire could be volunteers (or draftees) who went to the academy, but the stormtroopers could still be clones.

[Lord_Floyd]

Originally posted by mace@May 30 2002 - 16:21
Yeah, I also thought the actor playing Cliegg Lars in AOTC looked like the same guy who played Owen in ANH, but it turns out I was wrong. According to IMDB, Cliegg Lars was played by Jack Thompson in AOTC, and Uncle Owen was played by Phil Brown in ANH.
Doh!! I sit corrected.

[JediKeri.]

Seriously, am I the ONLY one who's seen it 6 times, and haven't noticed half of what you guys have? :0 :thumbs-up:

[Leia_THX]

I agree that the Stormtroopers will be clones....but why do they necessarily HAVE to be Fett clones? Just because the Kaminoans have lost Jango doesn't mean they've lost their technology!! They can use anyone to make clones.

[Rogue_0009]

I can't beleive I'm the only one who noticed these ones,

just as OB1 and Ani enter the nightclub over their shoulders you can see a woman in an outfit identical to princess leia's gold bikini

GL's son, Jett, is the padawan talking to Jocosta just as OB1 is leaving

Ahmed best is sitting at a table across from the bar

and on tatooine you can see R5-D4 and luke's speeder

[Vyndim]

Originally posted by Rogue_0009@June 05 2002 - 19:26
GL's son, Jett, is the padawan talking to Jocosta just as OB1 is leaving

Ahmed best is sitting at a table across from the bar
Actually, both of these were stated earlier in the thread. Although, I did not see Luke's Speeder, I'll have to search for it next time I see a showing.

[Tovor]

and on tatooine you can see R5-D4 and luke's speeder

Luke's speeder was in the Lars' garage, but I don't think that's an easter egg, just basis of origin. Maybe it had always been the Lars' speeder and Luke later got it when he was a teen.

Luke's speeder was also in TPM ya know. I mean the actual speeder model, the very same prop piece used during filming back in 1976, was on the side of the street of Mos Espa painted green when Qui-Gon and Padme got there.

[RollaFett]

This topic has sort of fizzled out a bit, but I'll add my two cents anyway. Why does everyone seem to have such a hard time accepting the stormtroopers of the OT as clones? It would seem like a very logical assumption to make. When I first heard about the PT, I hoped that the Clone Wars would be a part of it, and assumed that we would learn that the stormtroopers were clones. As far as all of the acadamy talk goes, well in this world, officers are usually trained in acadamies. Not infantry. Another thing, we still don't know what GL has up his sleeve for EP3 concerning the clones. Perhaps the finale of that war is the destruction of the cloning facilities. Who knows? Overall, I fail to understand why it would be so difficult to accept. Hell, the only problem that I could find with that whole thing would be from ANH when Leia says, "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" If they are all clones, wouldn't all of the uniforms be the same size? So if Luke was that short, the uniform wouldn't fit him properly. Of course, I could just be a bit too picky.

[Jedi Master Pohatu]

As for Clone Troopers being Storm Troopers, where were the Stromies created? Kamino?

[Tovor]

where were the Stromies created?

The "Stromies"? What were they, the clones of Strom Therman? That guy is way up there in age, I doubt clones of him would be good warriors.

[Senator Theant]

Actually Tovor . . .

From what I heard, the Kaminoans were invited to the Capitol in DC to discuss such a venture. OF course, this was when the Republicans controlled the Senate and were scared as hell about losing it, and considered creating clones of the 96-year old Senator. But they lost control anyways, and there was no use for the thousands of "Stromies" awaiting deployment.

[helenpleb]

Where is this potato in ESB that everyone is on about? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
This was probably mentioned ages ago in some other thread thingy, but did anyone else know about the bit in ESB when Luke and Vader are fighting on the platform in Cloud City, and Luke strikes Vader on the shoulder and he shouts 'HOLY COW!' ??? I was watching it the other day, and it's kinda hard to make out as I think they over dubbed it as it was too obvious, but apparently, he did say it! :lol:

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by Tovor@May 19 2002 - 12:17
That wasn't Sebulba, or even a Dug for that matter. *Sebulba walked on his hands with his feet out in front of him. *That creature was on its hind legs with his arms together in front of his chest, not like a Dug's who's legs start from behind the walking arms and extend past them.
Sorry, I don't know if it's Sebulba, but there IS a dug in Dex's Diner.

I've seen AotC 7 times now, and it walks on its hands, with its feet in front (just like Sebulba in TPM), from the booth behind Obi-Wan past Obi and Dex, and out the door behind Dex.

[Rozi-Wan Kenobi]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif yes there is a dug but as to whether it was Sebulllllba *as watto likes to say it*, i dunno. All dugs look alike.

[Rogue_0009]

anyone see ray park in the background of the arena battle

[Tovor]

(Tovor @ May 19 2002 - 12:17)
That wasn't Sebulba, or even a Dug for that matter. *Sebulba walked on his hands with his feet out in front of him. *That creature was on its hind legs with his arms together in front of his chest, not like a Dug's who's legs start from behind the walking arms and extend past them.
Sorry, I don't know if it's Sebulba, but there IS a dug in Dex's Diner.
I've seen AotC 7 times now, and it walks on its hands, with its feet in front (just like Sebulba in TPM), from the booth behind Obi-Wan past Obi and Dex, and out the door behind Dex.
Sorry Winston Sith, I humbly stand corrected. *After writing my above post and then seeing AOTC again, I realized that you were right. *Though not Sebulba, it is certainly a Dug.

[Tovor]

Actually Tovor . . .
From what I heard, the Kaminoans were invited to the Capitol in DC to discuss such a venture. OF course, this was when the Republicans controlled the Senate and were scared as hell about losing it, and considered creating clones of the 96-year old Senator.

LOL, Sen. Theant!

[RollaFett]

I do believe that Sebulba is in the movie. During the speeder chase through Coruscant there is a brief scene of a couple in a speeder. One appears to be an aged Sebulba and his companion appers to be the widow of one of the pod-racers from TPM. The one who crashes into the rocks that were hanging from the roof of a cave. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

[Wolfe_13]

I have briefly skimmed over most of these posts and it looks as if no one really disagrees with GL being in AOTC. I am on StarWars.com right now and found some info on his possible cameo. The question was " Does GL make a cameo in the sentate scene in E2? I'm shure I saw him?" Anwser - " No absolutely not. However, one of my bodyparts are in the film somewhere" - GL.

[Tovor]

The question was " Does GL make a cameo in the sentate scene in E2? I'm shure I saw him?" *Anwser - " No absolutely not. *However, one of my bodyparts are in the film somewhere" - GL.
I heard that one of his testicles was seen spinning among the rocks of the Geonosian rings. <g>:music:

[Rozi-Wan Kenobi]

Originally posted by GollaFett@June 14 2002 - 20:47
I do believe that Sebulba is in the movie. During the speeder chase through Coruscant there is a brief scene of a couple in a speeder. One appears to be an aged Sebulba and his companion appers to be the widow of one of the pod-racers from TPM. The one who crashes into the rocks that were hanging from the roof of a cave. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
I remember reading somewhere that the pod racers frm TPM made a cameo in the Coruscant chase scene...or it could be all the chocolate talking :D

if they really did, then i guess they didnt die despite their pods crashing and blowing up into smithereens. Aah, such is the magic of digital animation.

[DarthAl]

I'm not sure if this is an Easter Egg or not but it's certaintly something I keep wondering even after my 4th screening.

In the MaMa Skywalker Funeral scene when Anakin is kneeling before her: WHY ARE THERE 2 TOMBSTONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinking it might a symbolic gesture on GL part perhaps a foreshadowing to Anakin kneeling before Padme's grave in Episode III ?!?!?!

What do guys Say!!!!!!!!

[Tovor]

I think I read that one of the stones was for Clieg's first wife. I don't know about the others. What I really feel is that Lucas showed the other stones to enhance the idea that the Lars had been living there a long time, and that like the settlers of America's early history (and in later years as well), by tradition they buried their dead on family land.

[StannyUK]

a little obvious i know but what about Geonoisis. Very similar to Genesis as in the beginning. The beginning of the Empire, vaders birth and the fall of the jedi. DUH DUH DUHHHHHHHH (dramatic musical cue)

[Maru Fett]

While I was browsing through the Jango/Boba Armor rumors, I had a possible conclusion: In the new Jango Fett Comics, Jango inherits Jaster's armor. Maybe Jango told Boba about what happened to him and Boba took on the identity in the future.....?

Respond to this quickly!

[KMdigital]

Did anyone else besides me notice the emperor's royal guards in the beginning? Guarding the doors when the Jedi are in the chancelors quarters? They're standing behind the Jedi in one shot.

What if that means that in EP3, when Darth Sid is there after Anikin and Obi duel.. could this mean we might get to see a battle somewhere in there with the guards? That would be sweet!

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by KMdigital@June 21 2002 - 14:27
What if that means that in EP3, when Darth Sid is there after Anikin and Obi duel.. could this mean we might get to see a battle somewhere in there with the guards? That would be sweet!
Yeah, it would!

Unless he tells them to 'get lost' like he did in Jedi. ???

But if he does use them, he might not need to fight with a lightsaber; and I really want to see him fight with a lightsaber!

But wouldn't it be omni-sweet if we got to see both those things in the same movie? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif

[Brian]

Originally posted by Vader@May 18 2002 - 12:23
1. A Jedi that looks like Howard the Duck - When Obi-Wan Kenobi exits the Jedi Archives and heads towards Yoda, you'll see him in front of the steps. You'll also see him in the arena battle when all the Jedi are igniting their blades.
The Jedi that looks like Howard The Duck is Pablo-Jill (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/pablojill/index.html), I think.

[DanielSkywalker]

Were you serious or were you joking? He doesn't look anything like a duck :D.

[mace]

No, I think O-B-Gates is right. Pablo-Jill doesn't look anything like Howard the Duck, except from a distance--like you see in the library scene:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/pablojill/img/eu_sm.jpg

[MOFF DMC]

First of all, a big hello to a lot of old friends such as Tovor, Vibro and Teek and any other that I have missed that are still around.

AOTC was a superior piece of work which was dark yet humourous, full of action but with plenty of plot. An what of all the little cool scenes such as Anakin standing by the window of Padme apartment contemplating like he does on teh bridge of the death Star and the flow of his cape which is just so Vader. For me the highlight (and there were many) was the emotional farewall outside the Lars homestead with the ambiguous shadow and the swelling Force theme (just like Luke 20 odd years later). But what I liked was the "I will be back soon" but I felt even the first time I saw it that THIS MOMENT was the pivotal moment when things would never be the same and that 'soon' or the time when Anakin proper and not Darth vader would 'be back' would be another thirty years-very very tragic

[MOFF DMC]

I am sorry that I have to say it that "the more things change the more they stay the same" but I am still after a two year absence, amazed that people believe that the EU is some sort of concrete basis that GL must adhere to. WRONG! The EU is at best an OK at worst , a severely sub standard set of jottings that bear no relation to the true SW universe. I really believe in hindsight that in 1991 ANYONE could have written anything under the SW banner and it would have been a best seller , feeding on the pent up demand of SW fans. However a generation of "SW" fans have emerged that somehow think that the EU is the true SW universe which it is clearly not. If somehing appears in the films that contradicts the EU DEAL WITH IT as many EU authors have conceede themselves that what ever they wite is superceded by whatever GL writes. For god's sakes many of the EU writers are hacks that feed off a universe already create for them by someone else namely GL.

[Tovor]

Hello there Moff! *Welcome finally! *It's good to see you here, another link to bring back the style of posting we enjoyed before TPM came out. *Check your Private Messager, I sent you a letter.

*style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif Tov style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hehe.gif

[Lara]

HEY MOFF!!!!! good to see ya! remember you owe me a longer email and....go easy on the wine ;)

[RollaFett]

Moff- I don't know you, but welcome. Aside from that, I whole-heartedly agree with your assesment of the EU. I actually enjoyed those first novels of Zahn's when they came out, but never did I look at those as though they were equal with the films, as far as continuity goes. Sure, they were good for a quick SW fix, if you will, but that's about it. And the more EU that I read, the less I enjoyed it. SW,IMO, was always a grand space epic. The EU has turned into sci-fi dribble that have trouble stomaching.
Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sneaky2.gif

[DblDwn]

Originally posted by annie@May 29 2002 - 09:38
When the Jawa transport is found gutted and burned, Obi Wan comments that Imperial stormtroopers are the only ones that precise. *But, he has been stuck on Tatooine for the past 18 years and may not know that stormtroopers are no longer clones, but have been replaced by non-clone conscripts.
That's a very good point, but I always assumed that the Stormtroopers of the OT were clones because of Leia's line when Luke enters her cell on the Death Star. She says,"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" Doesn't that lead anyone else to think that she is implying that there is a specific height in which Stormtroopers must be? Which in turn would suggest that they are all clones.

After Jango's death, wouldn't they need to find a new source for the DNA when making clones? Who would they use?

[mace]

After Jango's death, wouldn't they need to find a new source for the DNA when making clones? Who would they use?Jar Jar Binks?

[dexterlennon]

Originally posted by DblDwn@July 04 2002 - 15:45
After Jango's death, wouldn't they need to find a new source for the DNA when making clones? Who would they use?
boba fett?

[DblDwn]

Dexter, I was thinking about them using Boba as the source as well, but wouldn't using a clone to make clones leave the clones somewhat..............lacking? Isn't the source for the clones supposed to be an actual person and not a clone? Or would that explain why the Stormtroopers of the OT are a little bit 'off', because they are the clones of a clone?

If Boba was the source of the new clones, and since he is a clone himself, I would compare the situation to 3PO's line in AOTC when he says, "Machines making machines, how perverse." That would be along the same lines of 'clones making clones'.

[dexterlennon]

"I was thinking about them using Boba as the source as well, but wouldn't using a clone to make clones leave the clones somewhat..............lacking?"



why does george lucas have to follow the premise of the movie "multiplicity?" the kaminoans are "damn good" cloners, i don't see why using boba as the source of the clones would hinder their cloning ability...

[DblDwn]

I'm not trying to take anything away from the cloning abilities of the Kaminoians. All I am saying is that isn't making the next batch of clones from a clone a little to simple and there should be a little bit more to the story than just that? Obviously there needs to be another source, but to make Boba, the only un-altered clone so it would work, the new source, in my opinion, would just be too simple. It would almost insult our viewing intelligence by making this so. There needs to be more to it than just that.

Here's a thought I just had: everyone seems to be against Boba killing Mace in Episode III, but what if a clone of Boba kills Mace in Episode III? Boba could have himself cloned, that clone would age faster than he would since he is un-altered and the clone wouldn't be, hence that clone would be old enough to fight and defeat Mace by the time Episode III comes along. Wrong thread I know, but I wanted to get this typed before I forgot. All rebuttals are welcome.

[Anakin Lover]

Okay I don't know if this is an Easter Egg or not but my favorite quote I think is one.Okay when Anakin:love: says"The thought of not being with you, I can't BREATH!:but: " well really he won't be able to breathe in later movies(hint,hint *ha'pe* imitates vader's breathing)[B][I][U]

[Blizzard]

bump

[Admiral DaaLa]

OK some one perhaps may have written this already. I wa just wondering if any one spotted the X-wing's and tei fighter's which are in the speeder chase.... I know its a part of the official site i just can't come across it. SO hwere abouts in the chase is it?

[Angel Starmaster]

Hell, I've looked for it myself. Never found it though.

I figure it kind of like the sneaker Easter Egg in the OT that they waved in front of a camera to look like a X-wing bottom. It's prolly there. But in order to find where in the film they stuck 'em you'd most likely have to see the production videos.

That's just what I figure though. I could be wrong. ???

[Luvinna.]

Just got done reading the whole thread and I've been copying Easter Eggs I hadn't noticed and/or found so I can look for them when I have the chance - be it dollar theater, IMAX or DVD. Someone posted this earlier (sorry for not giving proper credit):

In the Coruscant chase, I think its when Anakin and Obi dive straight down in pursuit of Zam. At the very bottom left hand corner of the screen, you can make out the shape of either two droid fighters or two TIE fighters. IT was that brief.
It seems as good a place to start as any.

[Krogenar]

I'm not trying to take anything away from the cloning abilities of the Kaminoians. All I am saying is that isn't making the next batch of clones from a clone a little to simple and there should be a little bit more to the story than just that? Obviously there needs to be another source, but to make Boba, the only un-altered clone so it would work, the new source, in my opinion, would just be too simple. It would almost insult our viewing intelligence by making this so. There needs to be more to it than just that.

*ponder* Why can't they just keep on cloning like mad, even with Jango dead? I mean, if all it takes is one measly cell to make a clone, wouldn't a fingernail give them enough cloning material to make several million of them?

Also, I'm assuming that in a future where clones can be make, and educated and mass-produced, there is some way of 'recording' experience and genetic information. It was pointed out that there were some slight modifications made to the clones, to make them more docile. Boba was unaltered, however.

So, do they really need Jango anymore?

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by Krogenar@Oct 11 2002, 06:03 PM
*ponder* Why can't they just keep on cloning like mad, even with Jango dead? I mean, if all it takes is one measly cell to make a clone, wouldn't a fingernail give them enough cloning material to make several million of them?
Maybe they need living cells? I don't know...

Also, I'm assuming that in a future where clones can be make, and educated and mass-produced, there is some way of 'recording' experience and genetic information.

Hmm... perhaps.

Boba was unaltered, however.

So, do they really need Jango anymore?

While Boba was unaltered, he was still a clone. Clones have certain atributes (I assume, although I'm not sure what they are) that differentiate them from a 'normal' people (aliens, etc). Boba is like a copy of a VHS tape; the 2nd generation (Boba, even unaltered) is worse than the 1st (Jango). The third is OK, but it's getting pretty bad - 'noise' is starting to creep in...

[Siamese Sith]

Just wanted to toss my 2 cents in here, How may people have made a photocopy of a photocopy? It begins to degenerate after you've used the 5th copy as the template. That might explain the ass whoopin the OT stormtroopers got on Endor....
The X-wing/tie fighter scene in clones is when Anakin and Obi Wan are chasing Zam vertically down thru traffic. It's on the mid to upper left side of the screen, it's almost impossible to see. The ships are going from right to left. There's a dark building directly behind the traffic so it's really hard to see the tie fighter.
We've all seen the Milenium Falcon on Naboo right???
Or the markings on the transport Padame and Anakin take to Naboo being the same as on smelting pot in the Geonosian factory the Padame falls into.
Krogy you're still a trainee!?

[Krogenar]

Originally posted by Siamese sith@Oct 15 2002, 05:42 PM
Just wanted to toss my 2 cents in here, How may people have made a photocopy of a photocopy? It begins to degenerate after you've used the 5th copy as the template. That might explain the ass whoopin the OT stormtroopers got on Endor....
The X-wing/tie fighter scene in clones is when Anakin and Obi Wan are chasing Zam vertically down thru traffic. It's on the mid to upper left side of the screen, it's almost impossible to see. The ships are going from right to left. There's a dark building directly behind the traffic so it's really hard to see the tie fighter.
We've all seen the Milenium Falcon on Naboo right???
Or the markings on the transport Padame and Anakin take to Naboo being the same as on smelting pot in the Geonosian factory the Padame falls into.
Krogy you're still a trainee!?
Ok, I think the Storm Troopers in the successive SW movies are not falling victim to any sort of degenerative genetics. Palpsidious went all out when he purchased his clones.

He probably got estimates from several other cloning operations, like: 'Clones-To-Go' or 'TheCloneZone!' or 'DNA2GO' - but finally, he decided that since his whole plan of dominating the galaxy hinged on the clones, he decided to spend the extra money.

Those thin-necked, pale people - they probably did a bang-up job on the cloning. I don't think the clone soldiers would start to fall apart. Palpy probably has a warranty. But in the novels, when Jedi are cloned, because of their sensitivity to The Force, they have a buzzing in their ears when they are nearby one of their clones. It's like the two are competing for the same 'force bandwidth' somehow. That was interesting. I also liked how the named the clones. Just add an extra vowel in there. The clone of Luke Skywalker was named: Luuke. *snicker*

Storm Trooper: "Hi, my name is Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaango Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett."
Storm Trooper: "No, not FEET, it's FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET - the 20 extra e's are silent."

It would be nice to see a Yodaa or Mace Wiindu clone, however. Maybe that has something to do with their defeat in the Clone Wars? style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

And yes, I STILL CANNOT change my title. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif I can't find the field for changing it in my profile. I've checked where it should be, and it just isn't there! Weird, huh?

[Siamese Sith]

Then the only other logical explanation is that proper Empire training fell by the wayside once Palpidious and Vader focus on catching Luke Skywalker. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Krogenar]

You can't give me any real proof that the Storm Troopers become progressively dumber from one movie to the next. Maybe they're just trying to lull everyone into a false sense of security, and then.... BAM!!! they shoot you dead!

[Siamese Sith]

Alrighty then, back to the subject.....I believe we were discussing episode II easter eggs?? :withstupid: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Darth Vegas]

I can't believe no one noticed this!!!!!!!!!


In the Jedi Archives, the four busts down from Count Dooku is Jedi Master George Lucas, and right next to him, is Rob Coleman. It is confirmed on the commentary on the dvd.

I see also that no one noticed that there is Darth Vader breath after you right after you hear Qui-Gon's voice, and just before the door opens. Turn your t.v. uploudif you have to because it is there.

Also, when Anakin and Padme are walking down the hallway right before they go into the droid factory, one of the Geonosians makes a wierd noise, and it's actually the sound of E.T. screaming.

Also in the Outlander Club while Anakin is walking around, you can here the laugh of Salacious Crumb.

[Lord Laviathan]

This is all very intresting I have noticed some of these but i need to go back and watch for the rest.